Nerdy Girl EditionPrevious: >>98708053>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: What are a few cards that you think are slipping past people's radar?
>>98712799>What are a few cards that you think are slipping past people's radar?People are pricing this at like $1. It's 2 mana reduce the cost of almost all spells in the game
>>98712799did Lyra also get raceswapped like Jhoira?
>>98712814I cast Lightning Bolt targeting Thalia
>>98712799>What are a few cards that you think are slipping past people's radar?It's actually kinda crazy, in a very stupid way, how some people think this card is no big deal and will be a junk rare. It's one of the more powerful cards I've seen in a long time. Seems like one of those "forever staple" cards like Rhystic
>>98712833Hold on a minute...
>>98712799>tqHurr dur dur
>>98712814second this, and Sphinx of False Conclusions is a fun dumb pile
>>98712799>tqThis nigga seems really strong, way stronger than Roxanne, and will terrorize b3 pods
>>98712799>TQMy dude here is in shockingly few decks so let's do the rundown>Delete target commander's type and abilities on etbLizard has this worded in the most favorable possible way. The effect doesn't go away if he leaves the battlefield unlike similar cards (Darksteel Mutation or The Wondrous Wasp) so their commander must die, blink, return to hand, or go back to the command zone to escape the effect. Spot removal only works if they aim it at their own commander which is a great scenario for you. Lizard himself can be blinked or reanimated after death to debilitate multiple targets or curse the same target again if they do escape. Being in green means he can be pulled out of the library via green tutors in an emergency if you need a creature effect gone asap and at his cost no green card does his job better. He's a very annoying interaction card green doesn't usually get and the body you're getting is above rate.
>>98712840>literally identical to Kindred Dominance>priced identicallywhat's the issue
>>98712850you're retarded if you think this is stronger than Roxanne
>>98712830>durrrrr dies to removalOkay great, you wasted your removal on a cost reducer instead of a playmaker, sounds good.
>>98712881I do bolt the bird, yes
>>98712871It is stronger than Roxanneand also synergizes very well with Roxanne too
>>98712850>turn 1 dork>turn 2 spirit guide, cast Aerid, cast Metamorphosis, recast Aerid, cast another dork>turn 3 you got 8 mana to work withSheeeesh
>>98712893>doesn't double mana>doesn't bonk someone when he makes a rock>has to pay six (6) mana to make more rocks without shooting himself in the face>Roxanne just swings and gets a new rockyou're going to quickly find that it's a lot easier to swing Roxanne that it is to sac and recur Aerid in RG
>>98712900>you're going to quickly find that it's a lot easier to swing Roxanne that it is to sac and recur Aerid in RGHold my beer
>>98712913yes yes I'm sure you can assemble some Rube Goldberg machine to make Aerid generate the same value Roxanne does by turning herself sideways
In a game with 4 opponents, does this ETB commit 3 crimes or just 1?
>>98712943It's one triggered ability
>>98712943one crime time per thing causing the crime regardless of how many targets the thing has
>>98712943should cost 2{B/G}
>>98712953yeah I know I just wasn't sure if 'for each player' triggers go on the stack 3 times in commander because I've only ever played simulators in 1v1, never multiplayer>>98712946cool thanks / dang
If i have two permanents that let me equip something for 0 on my first equip of the turn they don't stack correct? I still only get one free equip?
>>98712850>way stronger than RoxanneI'll give you that he's strong. Very strong. But Roxanne's meteors doing damage gives her so much flexibility that I don't think it's so cut and dry between which is better.
>>98712981Correct
roxanneyou don't have to put on the meteorite!
>>98712985Thank you anon-sama.
I pulled sieze the day with buster sword and I am so mad it doesn't do shit because I had to cast it during combat. Am I being dramatic or should I swap it for a different extra combat phase card?
>>98712799>TQIf you play Madness, may I suggest..?
>>98712678>>98713074fr tho, wut?
If you're duelling fucking Gruul while playing the weakest wedge, you would be playing some Land denial tooWhat else am I gonna do?
>>98712826>did Lyra also get raceswapped like Jhoira?lyra has always been a mulattoshe just got incredibly nerdy in the echoverse
Why is this shit so fire?How the fuck do you beat Gruul?HOW?
straight up busted 3 Mana?? CMON
nalia
>>98713137I'm still so mad they botched werewolves as bad as they did. The idea of constantly transforming creatures sounds so cool on paper, but fuck I'm not creative enough to envision a better way of doing it
>>98713012I have no idea what you're mad about here.
swag
>>98713259officer arrest this man
>>98713259cut your nails man
>>98713235the problem is flipping werewolves is just like flipping coins only with extra stepswotc should just bite the bullet and make them have activated transform abilities so they can flip on command
>>98713249I triggered buster sword with 5 damage and only had lands in my hand and seize the day. Because it's combat all sieze would do is untap my creature.
>>98713012>>98713320>FFlol
>>98713326I want cloud to choke on me and I want him to get stuck in me after.
>>98713334get in line, buddy
>>98712861Damn this is better than Abigale
>TQAnother strictly upgraded Phyrexian Arena.
>>98713531hmm it's a warlock too, goes in wyll + haunted one for sure
>>98713098That guy posts here all the time, he just likes to argue about blatantly incorrect things.
Is the new MonoB Avacyn a bit TOO resilient for Bracket 2 gaming? My current list has like 8 sac outlets and it feels like nothing except instant speed GY hate can answer it, which is not something pretty much any B2 deck will runShould I just bump it up to Bracket 3?
>>98713600>8mana in monoblackHomie if your games aren't wrapping up by the time people have access to 8+ mana then you guys need to learn how to build decks better. That's wincon territory
>>98713623It's not hard to get her down by turn 4/5 which in B2 is just about when a lot of decks are starting to come online
>>98713235The worst part is keeping track of the Day-and-Night-cycle from what I've gathered Gruul is so strong that it doesn't matter for shit though, played a few dozen matches against it with Mardu Vamps and lost 9/10 times It's like you HAVE to have an Edgar Markov, which I don't want, but Tovolar's card draw fucks with my Monarch mechanic HARD
>Gruul is so strong
>>98713566I've seen it - but does that mean you agree Hokori, Bloodmoon + Boom & Bust can still be included in a casual Bracket 3 match as long as it isn't a dedicated land destruction deck?
>>98713623I can do Turn 6 in Mardu and that's still not good enough somehow
>>98713644You clearly have never been at the receiving end of a Mage Slayer
>>98713658I am forever mad these aren't part of a cycle. They'd be so fucking perfect in a 5c slop pile to equally hate on everyone at the table
>>98713531>Blight ewww
>>98713675brother, I'm a destitute man, I can't afford a Dash Hopes or whatever the fuck fml mang
>>98713681It's like 70cents what the fuck are you talking about
>>98713689Huh?
>>98713690The fuck you mean "huh" it's cheap as fuck you retard
>>98713701I must be from the alternate timeline where it's liek 5 bucks
>>98713707Is the alternate reality called Europe?
>>98713707Mayhaps you are thinking of Withering Boon.
>>98713707Is the alternate timeline called "not just fucking looking at prices?"
>>98713717yeah
>>98713675I think it doesn't take a genius to figure out why this design was not reiterated upon.
>>98713729You're right I just hate the idea of what could've been. There's a few more pairs/trios that could've been a cycle that weren't and I hate that about those too
>>98713729paying 2 mono-coloured to pay 2 mono-coloured 2 counter a spell isn't all that gr8 in Mardu
>>98713194I really liek Orzhov
>>98713732Why? It makes sense as is. Green and black are enemy colors and they both got a funny piece to hate on each other. Not literally everything has to be a 5 or ten card cycle.
>>98713733You wanna know why Isochron Scepter never came back to Standard?
>>98713740I hate green, but I also respect it because it's honest and straightforward words can not express my disgust for blue
>>98713748sure
>>98713748Because artifacts are freaking broken probably.
>>98713762got some mana rocks for a nigger?please
>TQExplore is still a good ramp.
>>98713769true and real
>>98712861It's because he's a Spider-Man card, no one bought Spider-Man
>>98712884good call
Could any of the FRC exclusives get reprints with different art in the future? I want a blinged out Omnath Ob Nix and Avacyn
>>98713878Literally zero way at all whatsoever for anyone here to know. Only the "future future design crew" (or whatever the fuck they're called) at WotC could know
>>98713650Are you high?
>>98713886Surely there were commander precon exclusives in the past? Or are they all still locked to the one version until now
>>98713894There's always exclusives until there's not.
>>98713894There have been exlcusives in the past, but they were all much broader in a thematical sense. I think the first bling reprints you will see of the ones from reality fracture will probably be in a secret lair.
>>98713895>>98713901I suppose I'll wait for a Secret Lair drop then, if that ever happenscheers lads
>get Miku deck>it sucks absolute ass out of the box with horrible draw and a poor mana base>fix it while staying in b3 confines (3GC, etc)>deck now explodes at random and can sometimes go infinite as early as turn 5, draw a billion cards, etcI've had friends complain about it saying it's "dishonest" and all that, but said combos are 3 card combos. Though they are abundant (like 30+ options) and fire off from the command zone. Are they right?
>>98713907>combos are 3 card combos. Though they are abundant (like 30+ options)Sounds like normal deck building to me. If they're not packing removal to stop a 3 card combo that's on them
>>98713917>interaction >in commanderThat's considered rude bro. You HAVE to let people "do the thing."
>>98713907>Are they right?Hardly the point. Are you only going to stop pubstomping them if they can prove you are doing something wrong with facts and logic or something?
>>98713907You're the asshole stuffing your deck with combos the ball is entirely in your court to fix it.
>>98713922I'm pretty fucking annoyed when you board wipe me 4 times in a row.
How viable would Rebecca Guay tribal be? Helmed by her Galadriel
>>98714288There are zero creatures with the type "Rebecca Guay."
>>98714288
>>98713907>my friends are telling me my deck is too strong>I'll ask the internet if theyre wrong so I can keep doing itidk maybe listen to your friends and stop ruining their fun
>>98714296>>98714324Is an artist-based tribal deck really a foreign concept, surely youre taking the piss here
>>98712799I place 17 +1/+1 counters on Phage and swing for lethal commander damage.
>>98714288https://scryfall.com/search?q=a%3A%E2%80%9CRebecca+Guay%E2%80%9D+commander%3AbantMostly bracket 1 weenies, but has some synergies like Wonder in you graveyard plus Pride of the Clouds.
Just picked this fella up along with the precon. Any tips on upgrading him while also keeping it thematic for casual play ?
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98714338you are not responsible for your opponents' funthe friends should maybe try out running interaction or swap decks so they can figure out themselves if the deck is truly OP
>>98714354>play Jin Sakai>have her and a host of other bullshit on damage creatures>lmao unblockableThe fact he doesn't have a UW reprint is criminal.
>>98714482I for one would not change anything because it breaks up the visual cohesion of the deck.
Thinking of building a Gruul Haste-Matters with Deathleaper. Should I just pack everything with innate haste or put some enablers like Rising of the Day/Anger and some stompy ETB/Attackers effects
>>98714515>Jin SakaiI wish I could spit at you over the internet.
>>98714656>he doesn't like Jin Suck GuyHaving him be esper is just salt in the wound too.
>>98714612I have no idea, but what are you putting in it?
>>98712814>its an uncommon>sits in a slot of 2 guaranteed slots in every boosterunless you mean the artwork $1 is overpriced and even if you mean the artwork I still believe $1 is overpriced.
So with the upcoming Press X To Jace, are planeswalkers any good? They always seemed rather dull for their cost and the fact anyone can just target and murder them.
>went to an anime con with friends>have a surprising amount of downtime between stuff to play in the board game room>always people available for pickup games>three of us, so we just find someone sitting alone and invite him for a game or two>every time my friend uses his "bracket 3" Lonis deck>it's all-in elfball combo>takes random 15-minute turns on turn 5 at a convention where people have places to beGenuinely embarrassed for him. He kinda made us all look bad, inviting randoms then having them sit through that.
>>98714786>S*micnot even once
>>98714786he's German (autistic) please understand
>>98714760Some are ok, some are bad, some are really good.
>>98714828>his other deck is Marneus CalgarI compliment him for keeping only 2 decks but I still wouldnt want to play with him if this is all he took with him.
>>98713259Thought they were fanned out under your little dick at first glance in the thumbnail
>>98714851guess what?
>>98714878Chicken butt
>>98714667Here's the current listing, open for suggestions:https://moxfield.com/decks/EvU6xqGDt0qWz5Q1zPTi1g
>>98714665I hate all esper players because they're just an azorius and a dimir 69'ing.
>>98714995>he doesn't like THE waifu of mtgI bet you hate bouncing everyone's commanders back and drawing 6 cards every turn.
>>98715016*The waifu of faggots who manipulated a data aggregate site of theoretical decksFTFY
>>98715026To be fair, she's beyond bullshit AND doesn't have hideous art. That's a potent combo.
>>98714995Esper is indeed fake and gay. I'm personally a bant man.
>>98715059>Needs his Simic colors to hold his hand>Calls Esper fake and gaySasuga
you'll all love esper once the DC UB comes in and Batman shows up as a wub chud
>>98714949nice
>>98715059You know i tried making a bant exalted deck tooNot a lot of actual cards with exalted, but maybe if i find a way to get some tokens out, human soldiers too, to keep it on brand, so that i have more creatures with exalted thanks to sublime archangel. And also have a way to give trample to things, just ways to get damage in, while dodging blockers. I can just sprinkle in counterspells for blue
>>98715059>2008nowadays a card like this would a strong wahmen that would look like a man too
>>98715026My MtG waifu is Queen Marchesa Thunder Junction or whatever it's called isn't canon and I don't care to know what happens in that fanfic
>>98715074>chippyhe works at a better place now
>>98715054She might be good, but there's no reason for people to not fuck with the data given the circumstances. I'd estimate if we were ranking actual paper decks people play she'd be in the low-to-mid teens.
>>98715080with how Marvel is, there'll probably be multiple versions>Bruce Wayne // Batman>Batman, the Dark Knight>Batman, World's Greatest Detective>Batman, Always Prepared>and so on and so forth
>>98715016You make TMT look good.
>>98715122>Brian "Chippy" Dugan transitioned away from freelance fantasy illustration after taking a full-time position in the video game industry, notably joining Valve Corporation as a concept artist and digital painter.Fwhat a waste of talent.
>>98715059>I'm a Bant man
>>98714995I hate Esper because they can't make do with all the best removal in the game and need to pull counterspells out their ass too.t. Orzhov
>>98715228But oops all counterspells AND oops all draw at the same time is funny.
This card is super underrated.>turn 9>down to me and one other player>tap out and cast this for x=9>he then throws down three creatures thanks to a Mulldrifer topdeck>I cast Mirror Entity and pump all my guys to 9/9s and swing for lethal
>>98715397jace needs this
>>98715397This but final showdown.
Make Icetill Explorer a game changer.
>>98715454He literally doesn't do anything unless you play lands and have a deck.
>>98715397Absolute Cinema
>>98715445>manage to connect with the Sunforger/Reaver Cleaver on some dork, spew out a bunch of treasure tokens>last guy uses his turn to pull off some ooze combo, throws an infinite number of oozes at me>Sunforger into Final Showdown, burn my treasure tokens in order to use all the extra options and kill all his oozes but leave my one equipped dork>swing for lethal Instant speed wraths are great. Instant speed wraths that you can tutor out of your deck are fantastic.
>>98715553Could have just tutored for settle the wreckage.
>try to get a pod of non-UB precons to play>no one joinsv-v game is dead
>>98715597:c
>>98715597>non-UBxD
>>98715454Run the GY hate. Ghost Vacuum their fetches.
>>98715596not that you're wrong given the line of play that anon described, but his opponent could have played around Settle (and Aetherize and other effects) by swinging only 50% of his infinite oozes. lots of people make that mistake though
>insist that edh is just battlecruiser (green's specialty)>insist that playing to the strengths of other colors is le bad because they don't let other people 'do the thing'>get stomped on by the best battlecruiser deck (green ofc)>cry about it in a basket weaving forumwhat causes this mental illness?
>>98715641theater kids
>>98715596A real nasty trick would have been grabbing a Rakdos Charm.
>>98715426It's in the precon!
>>98715679God I love showing the token spam players Rakdos Charm
>>98715910It's my favorite way to respond to Storm Herd.
>>98715910Jokes on you
>>98715026>>98715139>edhrec was manipulated to push the top 1 commanderI love conspiracies can you please elaborate
Each color's most popular commander, labeled by if it's UB or not.>Colorless - Zhulodok, Void Gorger>White - Giada, Font of Hope>Blue - Urza, Lord High Artificer>Black - Sephiroth, Fabled SOLDIER (UB)>Red - Krenko, Mob Boss>Green - Tifa Lockheart (UB)>Azorius - Shorikai, Genesis Engine>Dimir - Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow>Rakdos - Valgavoth, Harrower of Souls>Gruul - Bello, Bard of the Brambles>Selesnya - Sythis, Harvest's Hand>Orzhov - Teysa Karlov>Izzet - Vivi Ornitier (UB)>Golgari - Lathril, Blade of the Elves>Boros - Arabella, Abandoned Doll>Simic - Hakbal of the Surging Soul>Esper - Y'shtola, Night's Blessed (UB)>Grixis - Sauron, the Dark Lord (UB)>Jund - Hearthhull, the Worldseed>Naya - Toph, the First Metalbender (UB)>Bant - Tidus, Yuna's Guardian (UB)>Abzan - Frodo, Adventurous Hobbit // Sam, Loyal Attendant (UB)>Jeskai - Captain America, First Avenger (UB)>Sultai - The Wise Mothman (UB)>Mardu - Edgar Markov>Temur - Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm>Sans Green - Breya, Etherium Shaper>Sans White - Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder>Sans Blue - Saskia the Unyielding>Sans Black - Aragorn, the Uniter (UB)>Sans Red - Atraxa, Praetors' Voice>Slop - The Ur-Dragon>Overall - Y'shtola, Night's Blessed (UB)11/32 categories are dominated by a UB card. Notably, they're heavily concentrated in 3c pairings, likely because that's where most commander-centric card designs are focused now. 4 out of the top 10 commanders by overall popularity are UB. Interestingly, two of them are grixis (Sauron and Azula).
Thoughts about still running this thing in current year?
>>98716082I run it in all my mono-color decks. It's great.
>>98716080>the only ones I have on that list are Tidus and SaskiaTidus is my fucking guy and Saskia is literally the only viable non-partner option.
>>98716044In the past month there were 7065 decks added under Y'shtola, Night's Blessed, almost 1,500 more than the next leading deck for this period, Sauron, The Dark Lord.In the past Week there have been more decks made for Y'shtola than for Jace, Multiverse Architect.Even accounting for increased interest from reaching the #1 slot, do you honestly believe interest alone accounts for being more built than every new commander for the current and upcoming set and vampires.dek, dragons.dek and dinosaurs.dek?It's not like EDHREC does deck-checks.
>>98716137>Popular commander has more decks made for them than a less popular commander>This must be manipulation just to promote a narrative on /edhg/ (thread with about a dozen posters)Anon, I...
>>98716137Hmm I see, actually where does edhrec get its # of decks data from?
>>98716149Who said anything about /edhg/, retard? We're not the center of the universe.Even so it wouldn't be difficult to do. I doubt EDHREC would bother doing any checks to ensure decks are unique to a deckbuilding service, or even unique to an account.
>>98716096What about this then?
>>98716169>Gets posted about for maybe 1 week>Everyone other than (You) forgets>Commander remains popular one "manipulation" relevancy window closesPlease, do tell me who this is benefitting from manipulating EDHrec statistics.
>>98716175Perfectly good, too
>>98716082I only run it in my Darien, King of Kjeldor solider token deck. It definitely draws removal, but it's worth running since the general is so mana hungry if he gets removed. Untapping with 12-14 mana on turn 5-6 is pretty sweet in mono white, and the buff to the tokens is awesome.
>>98716187Have schizophrenics ever needed a reason to do anything? If anything it's strange to be so defensive over it. I have Y'shtola deck; I don't see this alleged popularity bear out at ANY table.She's high because she's a precon commander, a literal anime waifu, an esper draw-do commander and associated with one of the most popular Final Fantasy games of all time. The idea that interest would be this sustained and high for such a long time naturally however is doubtful; and it wouldn't take much effort to tip the scales.Attempting to assign a rational motive to an irrational act is idiotic to begin with.
>>98716208>if it's about UB schizos are afoot>but if it's about UW it's all rational peoplecope and seetheyshtola happens to be *the* esper commander, just like how krenko remains the #1 mono red commander after all these years
>>98712850>Gruul artifactsBut I want to bonk and get "when attack" triggers
>>98716248you can do both
>>98716243Nobody said anything about UB you self-reporting retard. Holy shit. Fuck off.
>EDH night with friends>friends think my decks are annoying>EDH night with randos at LGS>randos think my decks are annoyingBros, how do I make a deck that's not annoying? I think it's because I use a lot of removal.
I really like the idea of multiple prowess triggers and I'm thinking of doing something built around these cards (might make an alt for Thor since Marvel is lame), but it all started from seeing Khenra Spellspear and it's flip side, so I'm a bit concerned that my plan is creeping too broad. I was also thinking perhaps I should make a PauperEDH deck with Khanra at the helm, but I don't know anyone else who plays that format so that can wait until later. Any opinions?
>>98716288Why, you also build a mono green deck and see who can race to the win the fastest without ever interacting with your opponents of course.
>>98716080A good chunk of these have their numbers pumped up by being face commanders in popular precons, including several of the non-UB ones.
>>98716275>ur-dragon, edgar, atraxa, and krenko sat there at the top for the longest time>'here are totally rational explanations why'>a hot woman from a far better ip etbs>it was the schizos~!!your bias is glaring and you can never hide your seething because of it
>>98716208>Can't think of a reason>"It must be schizophrenics! Phew! Good thing I wrapped up that loose end. I created a demographic that doesn't need a motive! I'm so glad real life is as simple as my MtG books where people are evil for no reason."There's two different Yshtola players at my LGS. Sounds to me like you're the schizo.
retards will never admit it but Yshtola is *the first* esper commander that does what the shard really wants to do, regardless of actual powerlevel - which is to play goodstuff.dec
>>98716351It would be fun to compile goodstuff lists from over the years to see how the cards have changed. 2012 goodstuff is probably 2026 badstuff or even terriblestuff.
>>98716288Do you have turns that take forever only to have everything undone with removal? Do you run tons of removal with not enough wincons?If not, you're podmates sound like babies.
>>98716351My only problem, is that for that stat-line it should cost 6-7 mana.
>>98716351This is every midrange deck ever in Magic's whole history but retards don't want to admit it because it would mean admitting that one of the most popular archetypes even in 60-card is just putting as many design mistakes as you can into one deck.>Ough I love Jund in Modern it was such peak Magic>Overstatted generic removal (red)>Overstatted generic removal (black)>Overstatted generic creature (green)
>>98716351Retards will never admit she's literally one step below a nadu tier design mistake.
"Queen of EDH" apparently has a fragile fucking crown. I'm sure all 166 and counting decks made for her today are representative of actual table space.
Alright nerds im between this mommy and PrestonIt feels like Preston generates more value due to his activated abilities/tokens but Elesh Norn looks coolWhats your take
>>98716351This bitch made me $1000 dollars after selling like 150 Helm of the Ghastlords
>>98716485nice spec anon, good job
>>98715059Simic is undeniably for shitters
>>98716479Elesh Norn is the only think that stops landfall on top of every other bullshit etb, she's better preston on that alone.
>>98716456>Anon learns that "majority" and "largest demographic" are not the same thingDo you also think SPM didn't sell to Disney adults after Brand New Day made bank off its "actually terrorists are good if they're women" message?
>>98716375unlike 60 card wotc makes some effort to have shards and wedges have 'identities' in edh, with some being better defined than others>esper: goodstuff>grixis: monoblack+++ cuz EVIL>jund: grind using sac effects>sultai: grind using the graveyard>jeskai: prowess>abzan: white reanimator *with big butts*>naya: white gruul>bant: white simic>temur: red simic >mardu: "aggro"
>>98716494Alright homie which color(s) are the least shitter-core?
>>98716518The wedges really don't have meaningful identities and it makes me sad. Tarkir was such a botch job compared to Ravnica and Alara.
>>98716479my fav part of white is hatebears and hate effects.The choice is obvious.
I'm at the point where I'm not going to apologize for liking Tarkir and Ikoria. Every time I read about "good" MtG planes it's similar levels of pants-shitting where it takes 15 seconds to identify the parts of the setting that weren't considered. At least Tarkir and Ikoria look cool compared to edgy fairy world, Japan (media version), and Harry Potter at home.
>>98716521Whatever your least favorite color combination is.
>>98716518Mardu is mostly TOKENS LMAO but sometimes you get Kaalia or Neriv (which can still be tokens) or Syr Gwyn
>>98716544>liking the worst story in mtg, ikoria>the story where the coppercoats have no redeeming quality whatsoever and the bonders literally can do nothing wrong>ikoria: the treehugger storylol
>>98716544Ikoria is just Monster Hunter
>>98716517You have legitimately no idea what you are talking about and sharing a physical reality with you is painful.Firstly, nobody said majority. Majority means "GREATER THAN 50%".Secondly, there's no point debating demographics because no demographic data is collected for EDHREC. Any theory based on demographics is actually unprovable.Thirdly, nobody was fucking talking about Spiderman. Spiderman doesn't even make it into the equation, so your weird axe to grind about some /tv/ shit isn't even relevant.Do us all a favor; contact a medical professional and have them refer you to a neurologist so they can find out what's wrong with you and if it's treatable. Sharing your suffering with all of us is hideously inconvenient for people who are trying to talk about a fucking card game.
>>98716547Nayabros....
>>98716370I think I run too much removal and not enough wincons. The last two games I ran Council of Four with knights synergies and Black Cat super spy Voltron.
>>98716521anything without access to green or blue
>>98716597Based Edgar Markov player
>>98716609One of the few Mardu decks I don't have actually
>>98716557Yeah I'm not apologizing for it when "good" Magic story is shitty grimdark fantasy jerking off Twilight fans.
>>98716565The jew recoils as he can been found out.
>>98716563Yeah and that's cool.
>>98712799There's no such thing as cards that slip past the radar anymore. There are still thousands of losers whose entire personality is being an mtg paypiggie that scrutinize each set and talk about it on forums and rec sites like edhrec. All the good cards are immediately identified and worked into potential decks. Anyone who thinks they're being a clever little big brain that's discovered some secret tech nobody else has uncovered is a moron. At most they're using underplayed cards that function perfectly well but have strictly better alternatives that everyone else uses but which the dork in question uses because they want to feel like a special little snowflake.In actuality the only question when it comes to cards is the debate about whether a card is good or overhyped/mid, like the current debate around Gleaming Splendor.
Is Oloro still the go-to Pillow Fort commander?A shitter at my lgs is complaining about my decks being 'too strong' so instead of being aggressive I just wanna sit back at be unkillable
>>98716648>There's no such thing as cards that slip past the radar anymore>no sir nothing slips past anybody no moredid people's card evaluation skills spike when UB arrived or something?
>One costs less than 5 dollars>One costs 40+>In the current state of magic where playing multiple colors is a jokeWhy?
>>98714729Unless you're playing an artifact deck or a creature-heavy deck, it is a strictly better Sapphire Medallion. Reduces the cost of almost everything, and isn't restricted to only reducing it for blue cards.The cheapest SaphMed is currently like, what, 8 bucks? Even though it's been printed several timesYou don't have to accept my advice, but I will be more than happy to buy 10 or 20 copies of Thalia if it ends up at $1 because I will be putting it in nearly every deck it can go in
>>98716707A lot of red creatures already have haste, and red already has a lot of things that give haste even just incidentally.Green has almost nothing.Now you understand <3
>>98716707do you have any idea how many cards in red have the text "your creatures have haste"???
>>98716732you can even have your commander have that exact same effect now
>>98716741Far from the first, but definitely has to be the cheapest manacost for it
>>98716707Mass Hysteria is a rare and also a huge chunk of red creatures already have haste so the card is often redundant Concordant Crossroads is a Mythic and not only enables Green's hasteless behemoths but also combos with Green's manadorks and such
>>98716732Anger?
>>98716351I've been out of MtG during FF. What is it about her that freaks people the fuck out?
>>98716732>>98716762https://scryfall.com/search?q=id%3Dr+o%3A%22have+haste%22&order=edhrec&as=grid&unique=cards36
>>98716790You know how everyone hates "do thing, draw card?"Well she's "do literally nothing, draw card"
>>98716790She's one of the most efficient commanders ever designed. Pure value engine
>>98716790Just value slop
>>98716797>>98716800>>98716803She's not CEDH viable, so she's worthless.
>>98716807>implying people don't just proxy their CEDH cards
>>98716807
>>98716797>>98716800>>98716803>each endstepI admit, I missed that. Kind of gay you get to free cards because your opponent's dealt 4 damage in a turn to someone else.
>>98716807the best esper cedh deck right happens to be esper + red and is also a bunch of goodstuff cards, almost like it's esper's main theme
>>98716820WotC civil war, people have staked their careers on the success of UB, sabotage in-universe overpower UB, etc etc etc
>Esper gets all the cool control cards while also being a generic goodstuff pile>Grixis is basically just Simic where red exists for a couple of sideboard cards and 4x Lightning Bolt in 60c formatsThe lack of good R, BR, UR and BU control cards is kind of crazy. Esper and WU gets basically all the best shit.
>>98716853>Grixis is basically just DimirFixed.
>>98716826Yeah, and that's not the EDHCuck #1 top slop queen, is it?
>>98716820>someone elseread the card again
>>98716853Esper is the chad colors. Lot of esper commanders do weird things and it's neat>Grixis is basically just Simic where red existsMy experience with grixis is that it's actually just izzet with some black staples like Sign in Blood and Infernal Grasp
https://moxfield.com/decks/gdadsRdjd0SlUrK8aZX9FQthoughts on this vibe so far
>>98716930Esper CAN do interesting things but 99% of edh players lean on the 'draw a billion cards' and 'stop your opponents from interacting with you' faggotry
>>98716945Weird, I mostly see esper used for enchantress. Honestly now I think about it I don't even see people playing esper very often, myself included even though I have 2 esper decks. One of them is a total jank pile that just needs a stronger lands and ramp package but I'm too lazy to build it
>>98716945I usually see Esper played as artifacts, but I guess it depends on what you find to be interesting.
sphinxbros how we feelin
>>98717019Sphinxes are not a very good tribe. I know a tranny who had a sphinx deck though, I forget what colors it was. Blue obviously, and I thiiiiink white? But I don't know if it had black or not. Maybe. Either way I guess they're getting an upgrade.
>>98716563Monster Hunter if it was gay and lame*
>>98716720>strictly bettercreatures are vastly more vulnerable to removal than artifacts
>>98717019I've always liked Sphinxes. I think the first rare I ever got was pic related.I'd love to make a 5 color one, but I have no idea who should be the commander.
>>98716272Ok yeah that's a good artifact
what went wrong
>>98717207Same issue as any Cheerios deck. You masturbate all over the table without meaningfully changing the board state, you contribute nothing to the multiplayer aspect of the game, and either you lose before you get to finish masturbating or you win and everybody tells you to put it away.
>>98717207Really poor colors for mass artifact payoffs.
>>98717062Also vastly easier to protect or return from grave. Instants and instant speed abilities that give protection, hexproof or indestructible tend to only give it to creatures outside of white
>>98717245>>98717207Received support in Reality Fracture. Go make some Heartwood tokens and then cast Craterclaw, anon
>>98717256Nontoken artifact, anon…
>>98717258Yeah and???? I'm not saying use the heartwoods for her ability, they already tap for red or green which is better than her ability, and Craterclaw is red so you couldn't cast it of her ability anyway.I'm just saying you run the RF gruul artifact shit with her in the command zone
>>98716521mono white technically colorless but whatever
>>98716526Are there enough white hate bears for a mono color deck? I will build it if so. Selesynia was the best color last time i build gaddog teeg in 2020
>>98717288there are enough hate bears that hate everyone equally, including youbut what you really want are hatebears that only hate your opponents, in which case there aren't enough of them
As someone who has made 5k+ last year reselling cards as they spike in value, this whole The Hobbit/nuSphinx thing has shown me that Wizards WILL try and create a tribal commander for every tribe.There is one tribe that doesn’t yet have enough support, and when it happens, a particular reserved list card is gonna go nuts
>>98717292well fuck you then
>>98712799Pretty old, but no one seems to give a shit. Boardwipe that becomes a stax piece.
What decks would be good for someone who wants to dip their toes into CEDH?
>>98717309First step, chop your pecker off.
>>98716526>>98717288>>98717292I have an orzhov hatebears deck and one of the absolute worst things about it is that a lot of white's card draw is ETB. I NEED to be shutting down opposing ETBs but it does suck that it fucks me too.You basically need to be running every fucking catch up mechanic and all the expensive stax enchantments too. Smothering Tithe, Trouble in Pairs, Smuggler's Share, Land Tax, and to a lesser extent Monologue Tax. If you don't have them you might as well quitSelesnya hatebears is very viable though because it actually lets you have fucking card advantage and ramp. They even just printed a new commander for it
>>98717309Godo, Bandit Warlord is a very simple and easy to play cedh deck since you basically just win when you cast Godo cheating out Helm of the Host.
>>98717309I've been told obby
>>98716288Why are you ashamed of being annoying at an LGS? You're supposed to be there to win not to play casual commander.
Is he the best commander choice for a brain-dead bracket 2 mono-white deck? I just want to play "powerful white cards" (trash).
>>98717053I'll take gay and lame Monster Hunter over "dude 10 merchant guilds and they're all stupid assholes"
>>98717496Waiting for your opponents to do shit is slow and boring.My monowhite is pic related, protection tribal.But if you want to play bracket 2 good stuff, you can still be more exciting than a do-nothingOdric Lunarch Marshal is keywords funBalan Wandering Knight is equipment voltronOswald Fiddlebender is actually monowhite artifacts Birthing Pod which is kind of insane to say, they didn't even put once per turn on the fucker (though he does tap)
>LGS calls me up>Collector Boosters for Reality Fracture are delayed>They don't know when they're comingI'm cooked fellas
>>98717525I built an Eightandathodobeit deck before and I didn't like it. I ended up turning it into a Commander Eesha voltron deck so I don't want to make anything like that. I just want to dazzle my opponents with power white cards like Dimensional Breach and Balancing Act.
>>98717294Kobold, fairie, or griffin?
Alright buddy so Golos gets the banhammer because it's too good at being a generic 5 color slop commander but picrel is A-OK because??????
>>98717575>because??????because.
>>98717555>I built an Eightandathodobeit deck before and I didn't like it.It doesn't have a good wincon, but protection is insane, especially with Painter's Servant down
>>98717540I’d cancel it. Nothing really seems worth while and most of the upgraded arts are fugly.
>>98717575Because people actually played Golos. As far as the RC is concerned it doesn't exist until it's everywhere.
>>98717595>As far as the RC is concerned it doesn't exist until it's everywhere.except when it's rhystic study, a card that the RC turned a blind eye to right until their well deserved end
Would golos even see competitively play if it was unbanned tomorrow? I seriously doubt it
>>98717590>Nothing really seems worth whileWorthwhile is 1 word by the way, you seething UBpiggy
>>98717611>5 color artifact commander with built in rampyeah probably
>>98717611cEDH is for trannies that couldn't compete in 1v1s so who cares?
>>98717611no it wouldn't, but it would still be put as a GC regardless
>>98717586Oh and I supposed to win with Grindstone? I already have the crappy Goblin Charbelcher / Endless Horizons shitbo in the deck. I also invested in snow-covered plains to play Extraplanar Lens
>>98717620>beating 3 players is easier than beating 1 playerOk retard
>>98717631>Oh and I supposed to win with Grindstone?No because then it's not really a monowhite protection deck it's just a shitpile Grindstone deck.The wincon is currently Approach of the Second Sun el em ay oh>I also invested in snow-covered plains to play Extraplanar LensVery sweaty for bracket 2 and probably won't even matter as much as you think
>>98717631Whoa, is it still true?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEjpHiNIko8
>>98717616When you pull your puke ass fracture foil ask your self if it was worth while instead of just buying the far better play booster art pay piggy.
>>98717670>Ask for draw>2 trannies losing agree>Repeat because ties count as +1 thanks to the scoring system you made to encourage draws specifically so you don't have to try forcing a win in difficult scenarios
>>98717691that's on westoids, JP cedh tags draws as losses
>>98717670>>beating 3 players is easier than beating 1 player1. You don't have to beat 3 players. Any of the of your opponents beating each other helps you.2. When your wincon is Thoracle or any other "you win the game" effect, or an effect that was indifferent to how many opponents you had in the first place, it isn't any more difficult to win.3. Like the other anon says, draws can be agreed and no one gives a fuck what they're doing in Nippon. This is an American game and you're on an American imageboard.4. In a 1v1 actions can only advantage or disadvantage one other person at the table. In a 1v1v1v1 every game action affects your opponents differently. The next player in rotation gets to rebuild from a board wipe first. And everyone knows about the disadvantage of 4th seatThere's a reason why every competitive sport and game ever made has either been 1v1 or TeamvTeam. See how many people you get signing up to your 1v1v1v1 chess idea
Is there a specific reason yshtola is so good? Like some combination of combos or just the fact that she does everything for playing the game?
>>98717747Holy fuck this exact fucking question has been asked ITTCan you shut the fuck up or go ask Grok or something?
>>987177411. correct2. correct3. some other place is doing something right? it doesn't fit my narrative so i'll ignore it. bonus points it's japan even though i'm on 4channel4. >1v1v1v1 is impossible even though TRACK AND FIELD IS LITERALLY THAT50/50, not bad, but still a midwit
>>98717757>>1v1v1v1 is impossible even though TRACK AND FIELD IS LITERALLY THATRunning doesn't involve interacting with other opponents
>>98717760and you can run a cedh deck that doesn't interact at all. fancy thatyou're a midwit, it's ok, not everyone is smart about a children's card game
>>98712799>double blue wizard angel nu-mtg is so fucking creatively and thematically bankrupt lmao
>>98717765>and you can run a cedh deck that doesn't interact at all. fancy thatOh you solved cEDH so no one can interact with you?
>>98717771it's a memberberry callback to resplendent angelbecause that's what UW is at the end of the day, memberberries and clapping because you understood the reference, UWfags being no different from star wars fags
>>98717778>track and field is 1v1v1v1 isn't a competitive sport!spoken like a true couch potato autistalso JP cedh actively discourages politicking and revealing of hands, so yet another thing the east does better than westoids
https://archidekt.com/decks/26691427/why_am_i_so_tahcksickI'm working on a toxic deck after it was revealed that the reality fracture precon utilised toxic cards, feeling vindicated because I've always thought toxic was cool, I'm currently working on the lands but are there any cards you guys would recommend or do you think I have all my bases covered?
>>98717786>>track and field is 1v1v1v1 isn't a competitive sport!>spoken like a true couch potato autist>lose>desperately attempt to put words in your opponents mouth to make them look sillyIs this strat competitively viable in cEDH?
>>98717751I didn't mean to offend.
>>98717600Unironically Golos died solely because he was released at a time when everyone was being forced to play online with strangers, so people were going unchecked in terms of just trying to power up their decks with a flood of players on sites like Spelltable and XMage. Since it's not the LGS with the same people every week you weren't able to just crybully them into playing differently, which exposed how fucking terrible the format rules are when the only limiter is how hard you can downplay your deck into the label of "power 7". Notice how 2019-2021 was when the RC started suddenly caring about Paradox Engine, Golos, Hullbreacher, and FUCKING FLASH HOW WERE THEY SO STUPID THAT THEY THOUGHT FLASH HULK WOULDN'T BE "THAT STRONG NOW"?
>>98717781>>98717677I'm very amused by how much real Magic the Gathering makes you seethe. I always thought it was just a bit when you over-exaggeratedly sucked off UB and said it's the best thing ever and that it's good that it's killing Magic, but no you're genuinely just some turbo sped who actually hates Magic and yet also wants to see your little funkyslops printed as Magic cardsWhat a fascinating creature.
>>98717790>i didn't lose, you did!lmaonext time try to hold your tongue timmy buddy and not say that 1v1v1v1 isn't competitive you never know when a much fitter anon is roaming around laughing at your unhealthy ass
>>98717799>>i didn't lose, you did!Accurate assessment of your posts rn yeah
>>98717798hey funko schizo, it's been a while
>>98717786>JP cedhNobody cares that your BF JP made some special rule zeroes for you pod.
>>98717802sure whatever you say track and field denier
>>98717797>how fucking terrible the format rules are when the only limiter is how hard you can downplay your deckSo what's the answer at this point? Would any sweeping rule change fix it? Huge and thoughtful ban lists? Or just giving up on ever trying to balance 30 years of power creep and delegating fun and balance to friends playing in their pods?
>>98717805>I'm not a freak, you're a schizo!!!!Lmao. More than one person ITT thinks you're a freak budCan we skip to the part where you spam "uh oh melty" and pretend you won?
>>98717812>>98717805Same guy.
>>98717816yes anon we all know you can't wait to see the new mtg funkos that maro knows you'll be thrilled to see
I did it /tg/ I finally played a game of commander. I ended up winning and feeling slightly bad. I kind of just crushed them both with Eldrazi and Animar as my commander. One player took a long time for each turn but just couldn't find a way to win.
>>98717811>I'm very amused by how much JP cedh makes you seethe. I always thought it was just a bit when you over-exaggeratedly sucked off goldsabertooth's ass and said it's the best thing ever and that it's good that it's making western cedh a laughing stock, but no you're genuinely just some turbo sped who actually hates knowing that nips do things better and yet also wants others to take 11 hr games seriously.What a fascinating creature.
>>98717798Uh oh melty. Reality fracture just doesn’t have good high end cards worth a collector booster.
>>98717797>Notice how 2019-2021 was when the RC started suddenly caring about Paradox Engine, Golos, Hullbreacher, and FUCKING FLASH HOW WERE THEY SO STUPID THAT THEY THOUGHT FLASH HULK WOULDN'T BE "THAT STRONG NOW"?yes rule zero doesn't work and sheldon and the rc were idiots, good riddance
>>98716351don't care about UB tranny shit
Wasn't there supposed to be a new banned list announcement? People have been mentioning it for a bit. Do we have a date for the next one?
>>98716080>Mardu - Edgar MarkovPay-to-Win: the Commander
>>98717825>>98717844Hey reply to this one, faggot >>98717821
>>98717815>So what's the answer at this point?the answer is gavin making 10+ or so banned cards into GCsnot the best solution as some of them aren't even worth the GC label and stand shoulder to shoulder to rhystic, but it's the most practical one that gives something to all parties
>>98717857>Wasn't there supposed to be a new banned list announcement?No there was some (not)Rules Committee meeting. That's it. Story over. I'm sorry you let clickbaiting "Magic influencer" grifters clickbait you on a slow news day with rumors of a ban update.
>>98717671Meh, like it's even possible to make a mono-white deck any higher than bracket 2 without having to resort to MLD.
>>98716555build Madness Vampires or Mass Land Denial
>>98716631show me what you got
>>98716931Damn, so close to 3-Deuce
>>98717859I’m just saying the top arts are shit. Not sure why you think that means I like UB, even more if those look like shit but okay bitch.
>>98717778may I interest you in German Highlander?
>>98717264Anon, you seem to be so retarded that you cannot comprehend that "cards that do not work together" is not equal to "support"
>>98716080>This is the face of Jeskai after 5 sets promoting it as prowess
>>98717896>the eventual face of jeskai
>>98717889
>>98717903I want a Superman card that references Morphling. It can be an unommon pack filler idc. It would be sovl.
>>98717895>"cards that do not work together">NYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY COMMANDER MUST MUST MUST MUST INTERACT WITH EVERYTHING IN MY DECKHoly fucking shit man what a meltdown. Most cards do not care about the distinction between token and nontoken artifacts. You just play the new gruul artifact support with the gruul artifact commander in the command zone and take advantage of the multiple fucking synergies that will give you without worrying about whether every fucking card contributes to the commander's underwhelming ability.Jeeeeesus, it's not that hard.
>>98717896Fortunately they just printed the most busted commander jeskai has ever had>Storm-kiln Artist in the command zoneAll it needs is a haste enabler (oh wow there's one in red for 1 mana!) and boom. Draw your whole deck, infinite storm, bullshit galore.
>>98717909Are you a troon? Those are the only people that can be that deluded. Schizo.
>>98717922>oh no my inspect element ploy didn't work! uhhhh ummmmm... troon! schizo!!Wanna throw "fed" or "jew" in there while we're at it?
>>98717921>just draw your haste enabler every game bro
>>98717927There is no inspect element because that’s not me. Just keep making shit up though.
>>98717921Windmill slamdunking this shit straight into my Urtet deck, my god
damn dude i just wanted advice for a deck but you guys from the -UB containment thread keep shitting this place up
>>98717917>"these cards do not actually work together">REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YOU FUCKING WANT A FUCKING DECK FUCKING CONNECTED FUCKING LIKE FUCKING MYCOSYNTH FUCKING LATTICE FUCKINGPlease tell us all how cards that do not work with the commander support said commander. It's a very simple demand, anon
>>98717933There's a reason traffic here has cratered: the shitstains drove everyone away
>>98717933They're just spam UB cards and convinced themselves that they're doing le ebin trolling
>>98717929You don't build this deck if you're too poor to be able to tutor for your combo pieces. Budgetfags need not apply
>>98717936>Please tell us all how cards that do not work with the commander support said commander.Because they support artifact strategies and you will be playing artifacts in your artifact commander deck.
>>98717929>>just draw your haste enabler>drawAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA
>>98717921>Cantrip draws a land>It's over
>>98714354Cast pick related on your Phage
>>98717921>draw your whole deck!been there, done that
>>98718009One of these things is not like the other...
man, new judges are fucking dumb>be me, monoblack shitter>play vs a monowhite soldier tokens faggot with Prava and a couple of 4/4 soldier tokens on the field>monofaggot goes into combat and attacks with Prava and his 4/4 soldiers (now 5/8)>sac emergence zone to cast languish at instant speed>monofaggot says Prava dies but his 4/4 token survives because my languish couldnt kill them when i casted languish>"motherfucker, all creatures get -4-4 until end of turn. Your Prava is no longer buffing your shitty tokens because it's dead, meaning your tokens die as well">monofaggot insisted I was wrong and calls a lvl1 judge>the lvl1 judge agrees with monofaggot>"are you fucking kidding me?">asked ChatGPT and gave me the correct answer>lv1 judge still agreed with the monofaggotthanks god there was another judge who told the lv1 judge to fuck off.
>>98718041Cringe ragepost. All you needed to say was "until end of turn"
>>98717921Is this not just a slight variant on Kykar?
>>98717896I still think it's a fun touch he's red white and blue on colorsAlso thank God that effect isn't just from a secret lair now since it is really fun to use
>>98718225It's essentially the same, except now you get the artifacts payoffs too
