Minidroth edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>98706353>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/>4e Booksgofile.io/d/JXpc9g>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator (old):https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread Question:How would you have saved fyreslayers?HARDMODE: in less than 4 new kits
>>98714381More of a medium droth maybe
>>98714381Instead of this unique guy we get a new generic tamer hero. Warcry vulkites, mixed gender. TurnipMax smith priestess hero. Named Bael-Grimnir's daughter magmadroth hero.
>>98714399He said save, not kill even more.
>>98714380>wants to make an all boar army>despises one of two boar kits availableAnon I don't think you really thought this idea throughI guess you could try and use tow boar boys? Ironjawz are originally based on their aesthetics so it's not that jarring of a jump
Does anybody know where can I find the new Ogor Mawtribes BT?Besides buying it, obviously.
>dwarf wizard what were they thinking
>>98714417wait for the store clerk to take a piss and nab it I like to offer them a coffee and slip laxatives in
>>98714422Rune priests are kosher
>>98714422>anon doesn't know about runesmiths
>>98714381droth cavalrygoblin hewer-esque war machinea unit of girls with massive pigtails who have ranged hybrid options (pistols/bombs, slayer pirate style thing)
I kinda hope we get duardin demigods or something. The ancestors had kids. It's kind of baked into the "ancestors" concept. And AoS is lacking in demigods. For some reason the gods don't shit out many kids in the Mortal Realms.
>>98714441I'm actually genuinely surprised that there's never really been a dwarf grenadier unit. Basically works for any flavour of dwarf too.
>>98714416That is/was my plan, it's a pity the kit got re-released for WHFB in a sense because it's now considerably more expensive since it's somehow driven up bits prices, I might have to look into casting some myself (especially to convert some chariots). I just genuinely hadn't realised how ugly gruntas were until I saw some in person recently, I thought the scheme and photos online made them look worse than they actually are but they're somehow even worse. I have zero intention of ever trying to play the army, I just think it would be a neat hobby project.
>>98714317I responded before realizing there was a new thread>>98714445Also adding that maybe the thrones with the bare plinths are relatively new and the belief is something like “it reminds us of the shame we feel for our fallen brothers” or they could even lie about an Ancestor “killed” by Chaos.All in all, I think Dwarves have been given a really interesting hand in AoS and I really love the “Prometheus but a lie” angle for Hashut.
>>98714435>>98714436the staff at the reveal said wizard and spells, not priest and prayers
>>98714444I don't want primarchfaggotry in the setting, it's already bad enough with the gods, or shit like mortarchs, but at least that's a dynamic position
>>98714472It's a matter of semantics at this point of the game.
>>98714473I was hoping for a generic unit rather than a named one.
>>98714454Agreed. People say "oh well you can't do a slayer army because they're just part of a larger dwarf army" but GW just never even really tried. People happily make whole armies of slayer units for WHF and they look like this lolFyreslayers just had the problem of being designed very early, and then never really given much of an aesthetic beyond "slayers but more decorated". There are other factions which suffered similarly to this, like Bloodbound, but GW already had an extant identity for khorne, which carried them.
>>98714478in 40k yeah but AoS priests are entirely different with ritual points, nogames fren
>>98714483Generic demigod unit/commander could be interesting if it was handled somewhat like the dragon blooded in TOW. It's weird because I like fantasy but the cathay stuff there with the dragon emperor and the dragon children and then the children having a ton of children of their own is interesting, but doesn't fit fantasy. Would fit right into AOS so it's a shame they didn't do something similar, especially because ATM khazalites are suffering from them not having much identity beyond being fantasy dwarfs transposed into AOS. When the literal fantasy dwarf models were transposed into AOS for Cities, the lore was a lot more weird and varied which I like, miss that era
>>98714494>People happily make whole armies of slayer units for WHFThose people also worked at GW
>>98714506Actually the only staff posting Fyreslayers in WD was Kevin Chin with his Dispossessed+Fyreslayers list.
>>98714517Are there photos? He's (was?) one of GW's best artists but I've never seen his models
>MESBG will get 28mm dwarfs >TOW will get new clansman and rangers We are living in a golden age.
>>98714494>GW just never even really triedThis is the future Sisters of Battle faced and they escaped the vicious cycle of “no one buys this faction so it doesn’t get model support and because it doesn’t get model support no one buys it” because GW acted on it. They’re the only ones that can change the fate of a faction. Unless they really considered a bunch of heroes, a side game unit, terrain and endless spells as actual support.
>>98714551Sisters are criminally underrate & GW are fools for not pushing them over lazily "trying" to shove in female custodes. Also they still suck at female face sculpts.
>>98714517The main writer for TOW(JTY) has a Battle March Army of just Slayers, which isn't much but shows there was interest inside GW for just Slayers>>98714528I think Kevin still works at GW, he was handpicked by Blanche when he retired.As for his models, maybe on his Instagram?>https://www.instagram.com/kingmong2k3/
>>98714551>>98714560Sisters were only pushed to counter sexism accusation and after that didn't work they pivoted to custodes
>>98714573And they put no effort into custodes so nothing came from them but a shitty animation. Now they're actively trying not to push them with female heads with the new kits.
>>98714494>People say "oh well you can't do a slayer army because they're just part of a larger dwarf army"I'm one of those people. Slayers are a niche part of wider dwarf culture. They should have never been split into their own standalone faction. It would have been infinitely more interesting to see how different permutations of dwarf culture handle slayers (i.e. Kharadron or Helsmiths having their own take on slayers that's slightly different from traditional slayers).Chorfs in Fantasy used to have this with a infernal guard. Unlike regular traditional dwarf slayers, infernal guard could actually be redeemed and rejoin chorf society - which makes sense in the context of their smaller numbers making individual chorf lives more valuable. If my memory isn't totally fucked, I vaguely recall GW attempting to make slayers their own independent thing in Fantasy for a time. There were rules and lists for it, but it never really went anywhere because - again - they're kinda pigeonholed into their niche.I'd like to see more god-themed stuff, like they seem to being doing with this new dwarf range, to some degree. Combining the FS into the new dwarf faction and transitioning them into more of a general Grungni-centric wing would go a long way to help them out.
>>98714583? The new kits also include female bodies, in fact the female bodies aren't optional parts of the kit which made some people very mad (all custodes fans deserve this punishment for their bad taste)
>>98714381>How would you have saved fyreslayers?>Dante Must Die Difficulty: 0 new models, only paintjobHearthguard are now golden statues powered by ur gold, not flesh and blood. Grimhold Exile is now the Grimhold Revenant, a spirit of a fallen ancestorRunefather becomes a named XYZ-Grimnir character ona golden scaled Magmadroth (son and mage remain black and red)
>>98714605I mean the reveal show kits. Not the ones that didn't sell earlier this year.
>>98714551>the vicious cycle of “no one buys this faction so it doesn’t get model support and because it doesn’t get model support no one buys it”>Cries in Dark EldarMy biggest fear for any faction in AoS is the fate of the Dark Eldar. They're three subfractions in a trenchcoat, and none of them get the attention they need. Hell, what's worse is that even if they did, I'm not sure modern GW even understands the faction anymore - going off how they handled that fucking awful Lady Malys model.I play DoK and HH, and while the HH range is still too small and too new to say for certain yet, the blood hags release for DoK has me worried. It's not a duel build kit, like most of the kits in the range, and it totally fucks up the aesthetics and spirit of the faction.
>>98714616
>>98714616Are those Space Marine shields?
>>98714471There's definitely *some* weirdness going on with hashut's place within the pantheon even from the beginning, except if we just straight up retcon whfb chaos dorfs out of existence.>>98714472They also said radukar was an ogre, they're clearly a bit retarded when it comes to aos. It'll be runic magic, which in game terms is just prayers.
>>98714616whoops
>>98714570Wait, the main writer has an army of just slayers? Why are slayers so abysmal in game then? GW is so confusing man.
>>98714619My man. I’ve got 3 targets on my back. Dark Eldar, Grey Knights, and IDK. At least I gave my loomies to fall back on. I like the Malys model but I wish she was posed differently. The Archon being a recreation of the fine cast one is a chefs kiss from me, though.
>>98714611>that didn't se- ACK!
>>98714621imagine working for GW and they squat everything in your army lmao
>>98714640Meanwhile accounts from actual stores, the ones actually ordering these in the first place, show they aren't selling.
>>98714647GW can't lie on a shareholder report, anon, that's a crime and against their benefit. Some tiny ass lgs is irrelevant.
>>98714619>and it totally fucks up the aesthetics and spirit of the faction.Blame local DoKfags spamming Tharja back when GW employees still looked here, they gave them the same bodystocking outfit
>>98714592You could kind of sidestep this issue by leaning into the "savage dwarfs" theme they had going in with this particular warcry guy and the use of magmadroths in general. Would kind of move them from "slayers but an army" into "exodites but fantasy dwarfs".That's been my daydream fyreslayer project for a while now but fuck would it require some greenstuff effort that I don't have the skills for yet. >>98714621Kevin has been hard carrying dwarfs at GW for 15+ years now
>>98714654Yes because companies would never lie especially in business. Marvel? Oh every new series, that gets cancelled within 12 issues, is definitely making tons of sales with "new" characters grifting all the originals. Just completely ignore what actual local comic book stores in every state are saying about both products shelfwarming.
I really don’t like this appeal towards realism that models have nowadays. Even the old world has it baked in now, I thought they would at least stick to 28mm heroic scale. I fucking dread a dryad refresh as abysmal as the kit is to assemble.
I’m sorry I made the connection of FS to Sisters through their lack of sales/support. That seemed to have riled up our resident retard(s) and made them believe they had a platform to whine on.
>>98714381SoonWould war machines work? Either units absed on smoke, fumes and other volcano-related things and/or Grimnir's children like Morgrim who's an engineer. Get a giant lava-slewing rune golem.
>>98714663Anon, that's fraud. Kevin rountree is not risking prison time over fucking custodes.When a product underperforms they simply don't mention it in their financial reports, OR they comment on the (subjective) quality of the miniatures themselves. See also darkwater in the latest report.
>>98714694Both are true and it’s not fraud. GW sells the kits to stores by the case load. That is positive sales. Then those stores sit on product that doesn’t sell. GW doesn’t give a shit about that when reporting to shareholders
>>98714592>GW attempting to make slayers their own independent thing in Fantasy for a timeI mean, as much as you could. I never played fantasy but considering there was like a whole chunk of slayers (dragon, giant, demon, the goblin hewer, various heroes) but not sure if it was a stand alone thing.I figure as long as Fyreslayers aren't just out of the universe and still around I'll be happy. I didn't want to play the army because it was barely supported and while the models were cool I generally would have just wanted a hero here or there I'm fine with them kinda getting folded into a new thing and giving them some room to grow.
>>98714639>I like the Malys modelI'm not trying to be a dick, but legitimately how?They took the second most powerful individual in Commorragh - someone who is known for subterfuge and seduction - and slapped her in basic bitch Archon armour. Insult to injury, her face doesn't even look like that of a Dark Eldar. Hell, it doesn't even look like a regular Eldar - just some basic generic fantasy elf (the shadowheart comparisons aren't for no reason).GW has TWO lhamaean (or lhamaean-like) models to use as a reference point. It's wild they fucked up this bad.>>98714659I'd be fine with the blood hags, from a visual standpoint, if they were low initiates to a coven. You'd run them in units of 20 and they'd function like chaff - a dual build kit for spears and bows, combined with their above average armour, would indicate them as less experienced. However, that's not what they are.They're supposed to be some of the most elite units a coven can bring to bear - which makes absolutely no sense in the treats getting naked and killing people without taking injury as both a flex and as worship.
>>98714619>They're three subfractions in a trenchcoatWonder how Gitz are doing nowadays....
>>98714381nothing gets squattedthe 3 "caster" heroes get reboxed so they're sold as the same unit (can be fielded as a lone model or a unit of 3 models) with no specific rules for the 3 types unless they're together the 3 melee heroes get reboxed so they're sold as the same unit (can be fielded as a lone model or a unit of 3 models) with no specific rules for the 3 types unless they're together 1 box of vulkites, 2 boxes of hearthguards, the banner, and the underworlds band, get reboxed so they're sold as one unit (either fielded as 5 vulkites and 5 heartguards together as one unit with different weapons, or 10 vulkites and 10 hearthguards together with different weapons, or 14 vulkites and 10 hearthguards and a runechampion) with no way to field vulkites or hearthuard as separate unitsone of the new kits is a centerpiece model ridden by special characters on special larger magmadroth, 3 builds>bael grimnir, extremely ancient magmadroth head option>baeldottir, extra frilled magmadroth head option belching lava >generic build, "balesson", extra horned magmadroth head optionthe second new kit is a generic caster (female) on a monstrous (but no droth sized) wyvern-pterosaur with 4 or 6 wingsflamekeepers receive a brother unit, models with the same overall design but with no specialists, instead they have multiple hound sized droths, and a different mix of weapons instead of great weapons, a mix of javelins, throwing axes, axes, picks, bucklers, round greatshields, the entire unit must either be built as having a mix of throwing weapons and melee weapons, or a mix of melee weapons with shields without throwing weapons, this latter built has optional fully covering helmets of various designs and asymmetrical pauldrons, the champion comes with a cape
>>98714757they're not really hurting aside from the consistent awful rules that has plagued destruction.
>>98714662I mean, that's fine for a one-off or a /your dudes/ theme, but I don't think it works to flesh out an entire range. It's still pigeonholed by the nature of slayers. >>98714748It was never a standalone thing in Fantasy, but there was this weird time (around 6ed or 7ed) where it look like it might be. Again, I only vaguely remember it but there was a push with a lot of slayers themed shit for a while.
>>98714776At least Ogors are fun.Though as someone with an SoB army I am very depressed at the gimping of my army.
>>98714751I mean, that’s just the style of Dark Eldar armor. Hers has a few more accents to help differentiate it such as the high collar, big hip plates with a dress, the plated tail along the back. I think her face is a good female sculpt for once. The veil option looks really nice on her, too. But if I were the EM painter I would’ve made her paler and done black eyes. Maybe my reasons won’t be enough for you, but I can say I don’t hate the model but know it could’ve been better, but I also think they had to make sure she didn’t look too much like Yvraine either.
>>98714773the 4th new kit is a chariot pulled by a some weird boar-tortoise, it's ridden by priests of the zharr cult similar in look to the priest on magmadroth, but with beaked masks, and the chariot has the option of carrying a funerary pyre where they collect spent ur-gold, or a runic statue that's like the tip of the weapon of ranged hearthguards, which acts as a magic magma spewing mortar, or with nothing at all behind, to be taken in units of multiple models or as reinforcing elements to one of the other 2 types, if it's built in this simpler way the leftover magma spewing statue can be assembled as a stationary artillery piece, and similarly the pyre as well, the pyre has has an anvil on it and acts as upgrade and complementary part to the battleforge scenery piece, you can have multiple statues as artillery pieces but having multiple pyres/anvils does nothing, you can upgrade your one forge with one such pyre
>>98714790Actually, adding onto that. When Yvraine was first coming around I remember people thinking she was Malys.
>>98714621I see where the valayan yellow scheme is coming from now
would have a defiled buddah statue for my basing get me banned out of a lgs
>>98714834why would it?
>>98714834I mean, probably not. I don't think any Buddhists are really gonna care if you fuck with a little buddha statue. Unless you've like, covered it in shit or give it massive green stuff knockers.
>>98714427you don’t do that but I wish you didalso coffee itself is a natural laxative
>>98714663Marvel has to do that at this point they’re probably being propped up entirely by everything that aren’t the comics.
>>98714834Depends where you live
>>98714757not quite the high point of 3rd edition with 72 wound squig herds, but they can get by.same as always, their army trait is awful, gits players can almost ignore the first 3 pages of their rules section. the army rules are janky, the artifacts and traits are mid worse versions of better artifacts and traits from previous editions, and the spell lore fucking SUCKS, despite them being an army than can field 12 wizards in a list they dont have anything good to cast. moonclan hordes do pretty much what they've always done, although fanatic tricks and netters arent as good as they used to be, they're much more limited.squig shit and troggs carry the army on their shoulders. boingrot bounders are point for pound one of the highest damage units in the game, while troggs are one of the toughest. squigs are fast and high damage but cant hold a point. troggs are slow and have a small footprint but can hold a point for days.spiders are.....just forget about spiders okay? GW clearly didwolfshit is infinitely manueverable, but with an utter lack of damage and middling debuff and utility options, they end up being little more than cheap dodgy speed bumps, they arent going to tear shit up like squigs, but their shooting is also not good so they cant be a great skirmishy unit like elven windchargers or something. but they're cheap. if you need cheap dependable (non random movement) speed, this is where you look. sadly though they cant seem to find a point cost low enough for manglers to actually be good with that new dogshit warscroll. its dropped 100pts so far and still not good.
>>98714472It's just a simple mechanic. If you're question this, are you going to question how the Ogres' eat mechanic works on Starborne Seraphon, Nighthaunt and Daemons? How do they eat something that either burns you with pure starlight of Azyr magic, something made up of death magic or something made of chaos magic? Answer; don't question it. You have to make some rule based, mechanic based and lore compromises. Otherwise you'd have to say 'Unless they are STARBORNE SERAPHON, NIGHTHAUNT OR DAEMON KEYWORDS'. Then you got the issue on daemons having a physical form that persits even after they're killed (models have daemon bits) or where the lore says they disappear when the chaos power has been weakened in the area. Again, you gotta handwave a lot of stuff. Same with Greater Daemons or Daemon Primarchs in 40k. They can only exist when the power of warp is strong but unless you justify that every fight by going 'err this is just a small part of a big battle' or 'this is what was there to try and stop it' you gotta either assume there is some major chaos rift going or it's just the way it is.
>>98714863It's funny how I have a full gitz army but have yet to ever consider even playing it. I just wound up with all this shit because gitz players dump off stuff at the drop of a hat. They're really cool models, shit I've got 2 trogg bosses on my desk alongside Mollogg and the baby Trogg rn because I just wanna paint these dweebs.
>>98714751>second most powerful individual in CommorraghI thought that title went to someone like Urien or Drazhar
>>98714473>>98714444Leakers said Thorgrim is now an Ancestor God in Azyr looking after the Book of Grudges which persisted after the end of the world (so angry it survived). I could see them doing that, Thorgrim getting out of his Anvil seat and going with the BoG to help somebody.
Where are the seraphon endless spells
>>98714872Anon we've straight up seen thorgrim as an ancestor god in the new tome lolHas been heavily implied for like a year too, ever since the helsmith tome
So is it actually true that AoS spaces are more friendly to queer lifestyles, or are all Games workshop scenes more or less similar?I've been getting the nostalgia bug lately and trying to get into a GW game, but every time i've been to the WH40K gamenight the people there can't help but subtly mock me for speech/voice/wardrobe etc. I'm literally not wearing anything that you wouldn't see at a generic pride parade. It's funny that people get bothered by a studded collar/leash when there are literally models in their game wearing the same.At any rate, I'd like to try the AoS gamenight next and see if the reception for newcomers is a little warmer.
>>98714883Ended
>>98714883>leakers said that they were gonna get them>they didn'tAt least the leaker collectors removed the bullshit>Saurus Guard soon! Coatl soon!Posts. Only hope (cope) is that there is a claim of a larger 2nd wave for Seraphon coming later down the line. But that's so vague and nebulous it could be 10 years.
>>98714888Yeah I was including that in part of the claim he was going to be the 'god model' for KH. Since the leaker said it at the same time. We know he is an AG, just... Yeah me.>>98714889No? No particular space is any nicer than the rest. It's about your local scene and the people who inhabit it. People will always be angry at something. If you don't stink and aren't forcing shit on people, most people won't care. If you get called 'he' or whatever pronoun you don't like, as long as you don't lecture them and let it slide, nobody will care. Yes, social interaction when you're LGBTQIA+ goes both ways, you're not immune to your obligation in the social contract. If somebody is 'deadnaming you' or pronoun shaming you or w/e, you can be reasonable about it, not a cunt. I know trans people and while they would prefer their pronouns, I've never seen them rage when being called 'he'. But maybe they will now. Who knows.
>>98714883Endless spells are being removed in 5th so there's no point
>>98714906Anon it's bait.
>>98714895>At least the leaker collectors removed the bullshit>>Saurus Guard soon! Coatl soon!Wait so all the fake guesses get deleted?
>>98714909They can take my endless spells from my cold dead hands, that shit is too cool to remove.
>>98714895>>98714913There was a dude who said seraphon were getting endless spells, a new oldblood, and new saurus guard. Notably he was not one of the usual leakers, and since his other main rumour was that slaanesh would get a slaangor as pity hero he isn't considered credible.The coatl rumour comes from boole, who has previously also said tetaxi would NOT be riding one, but something more akin to a ripperdactyl which is basically what we got. He is, however, claiming we will see actual coatls soon™. It's been mentioned before that seraphon will have a major part to play in the end of edition campaign, and they're one of the more likely candidates to get some releases accompanying that.
>>98714913Yeah some random user popped up and said>We have this info from a new user, which is not a proven source: Saurus old Blood, Saurus guard and 3 endless spells, one of them the swarm And it was kept on the 'leak' page for about a month or two before it got removed, no particular reason stated but presumed the user was just bullshitting since they either stopped posting leaks or was deleted or something. Popped around the time The Last World shit was happening, but didn't post anything interesting. Claimed they had seen a sprue they thought was a 'Slaangor hero'. I think that was in response to that HoS model with the head helmet animal thing.
>>98714940I think Boole said the other day that the coatl is still coming later. Don’t quote me on it, though,
>>98714790The problem with her design is that it doesn't actually tell you anything about the character. Yeah, she has the fan and the veil if you use that head, but the rest doesn't exactly scream master seductress or spy master. Yvraine and the actual Lhamaean model are what I was referencing before when I said GW already did similar things. They had solid blueprints for "high Lady of Commorragh" and they opted for "marginally different basic bitch Archon".And yeah, the Malys face isn't bad, in and of itself, but it's bad for a Dark Eldar. You can paint it paler, but that still doesn't make the underlying structure of the face more Eldar-like.
>>98714847I do, he's barred me a dozen times but I'm a master of disguise
>>98714944They'd previously claimed slaanesh would get a slaangor hero but of course we got the lord of hysteria instead. Dude tried to cope about it saying he saw the sprue and it looked like a slaangor, but it was quite obvious he was bullshitting, which is probably why he was taken of the list.Tga is fun and all but there's really only 3 guys who actually know shit; boole and both whitefangs. To a lesser extent there's also nezzhil and ejecutor but that's mainly smaller stuff like underworlds or release dates. Occasionally you'll get somebody like reformation popping in with all new rumours (and in his case straight up leaked pics) but mostly it's just these three guys.Tga being tga you also get a fair amount of accounts looking for attention starting "rumours" which are mostly just kind of reasonable guesses (like the aforementioned slaangor hero). There's this one dude who has been posting shitty fake rumours for like half a year and keeps getting proven wrong, but the users there keep taking the bait and giving him attention like he knows something. Pretty funny because this annoys the fuck out of the dude who compiles all the rumours and keeps telling the others not to engage with this obvious fraud but it never works kek.>t. Phd in rumours
>>98714868its mostly a fun army, as long as you dont dwell too much on the stuff thats annoying like the army rules. its one of those armies where the majority of the gameplay is on the warscrolls, it doesnt play much out of the front of the book if that makes sense, and a lot of its value and strength on the table comes from fielding either shitloads of dudes, shitloads of attacks, or shitloads of toughness, and just burying your opponent under sheer weight of bodies and dice. it has some tricks, but they often end up being more expensive and random, not worth the points when every 100pts gets you another 20 goblins or 10 squigs on the table, so you dont need a ton of crazy interactions to make the army work like some of the elven armies. you just need a ton of dudes.
>>98714986Boole has a 97% success rate in leaks.Whitefang 93% success.Whitefang Back Me Up 100% success.Reformation 97% successEjecutor 100% successNezhill 100% successRob, the Honest Wargamer 100% success75hastings69 and Kurб both have several pending but no score at the moment.
>>98715017Outside of the recent dwarf announcement, what other upcoming rumors are likely 100% true?
>>98715017Go brush your teeth and wash your mouth out after sucking all that cock.
>>98715017>Rob, the Honest Wargamer 100% successWhere's the new horrors he promised? Vampire pirates in the 5th starter?
>>98715017>Rob, the Honest Wargamer 100% successLel, good bit. you're gonna get a lot of (you)'s here anon.
>>98714471> All in all, I think Dwarves have been given a really interesting hand in AoS and I really love the “Prometheus but a lie” angle for Hashut.Do Dwarves still get murderously angry or feign ignorance if you mention Chorfs to them? I imagine it’s not much of an option in AoS with how prominent they’ve become
>>98715039Huh? How is that at all related to me pointing out which leakers are accurate or not in reply to a guy talking about accuracy of leakers?>>98715032Khul getting a DP model.Maneaters getting new models.Pestilins getting something (possibly Seraphon vs Skaven at the end of the edition?)Malerion Elves are coming soon.That's probably it.>>98715049>>98715048Don't argue with me. As for his other claims, he has pending and if they're wrong they're wrong and it'll go down. We haven't had the 5th starter yet so we can't say he is wrong, he might be, but not yet. This score is based on his one post on TGA which was>Nurgle will get some stuff about HoHWhich turned out to be true, so he's 1/1. So, 100%. His stuff which hasn't been confirmed either way are>New Nagash model>Vampires vs SCE starter set>New Skirmish game
>>98715058Just checked, kind of a shitty system. For examples whitefangs "misses" are that he claimed tempests' eye (and more cities) would be destroyed, and they consider this wrong since it didn't happen in the CoS tome.... but he's obviously hinting at TLW rumours here, so shouldn't those also be considered pending?
>>98714867I mean we know even in lore Ogres can eat stuff that couldn’t logically be eaten, it’s just apart of their gimmick/magic, but the rest is true
>>98715058So technically I could say anything and have a 100% accuracy rating is what you're saying until proven wrong.So if next edition the starter set isn't vamps vs SCE and a new Nagash he's at 0% accuracy. Also wouldn't counter claims from other people make someone wrong since the new starter set is supposed to be chaos vs stormcast (or cities who fucking knows at this point) so technically he's already wrong...
>>98714872if an ancestor god were to get a mini it would just HAVE to be grombrindal
>>98714889This is a funny post>>98714906But this is even funnier
>>98715057Seems like the exact kind of lore people would want to know about and GW would refuse to write.
>>98715077Nta but you'd have to have one correct rumour to be on the board so to speak.If he's wrong about vampirates (he will be) he'll be at 50%Rumours contradict each other, but technically either one could be true. However, considering the track records of the people involved, his shitty rumour is all but confirmed to be wrong. But technically it's not actually confirmed yet.
>>98714473Primarchs are cool but I agree we don’t really need any equivalents in AoS, stuff like the CP is close enough. That said, I do kind of wish we had more godly conflicts in general, you read about stuff like Grimnir creating gouges thousands of miles wide and deep in his fight with Vulctraix and it’s hard not to want more stuff like that… though I kind of get why some people aren’t fond of it.>>98714871Malys is up there but yeah Urien probably does hold more raw influence with how legendary he is.
>>98715083>if>would
>>98715100I still don’t know what the fuck they were thinking with the belts. Even fyre slayers have better belts than khaz holds.
>>98715077No, you cannot have 100% accuracy, you only get an accuracy when you're right. As I said, 75hastings69 and Kurб both have several pending but no score at the moment. Because none have been confirmed. If Rob gets something wrong he goes down to 50% because he got something right, once.>>98715068I assume it was in context of the new CoS tome, but if they lose it come end of edition/setting, I presume they'll update it.
>>98715109See I feel like percentage scores give too much credit, I feel like having a straight count of Incorrect, correct, and pending would be a better way of giving examples.
>>98714670Agreed, especially it for old world. It looks especially bad now because you have this nu era stuff, mixed in with extremely old metal models that look like this >>98714570. Now, it's not that I dislike old models, I think they're a lot of fun, but when you mix in the old and the new in such a retarded manner, it looks like shit
AWW LAAWWDD DEM RANGZ
>>98714670the new dwarfs are the exact same size as the old ones, maybe just play dwarfs of some kind.
>>98715112When you click something it gives context on why it was wrong... Doesn't for why it was right.
Is blood of the Godeater out? Do we have a file?
>>98715168While I like the heroes and the arty, I still don’t dig the crux of the army. And by that I mean the army overall doesn’t do anything to make me like dwarves like khadrons do. If the infantry messed around with Geo-mancy or were a combination I could have liked it, maybe would have even paired well with fyre slayers more, but as it is this army is just redundant. >>98715197Hardbacks out, still waiting for the paperback.
Any Spearhead enjoyers here? I'm eyeing the Tzaangor Warflock set for a long while and I'm thinking about pick it up as a souvenir from my home country. I know many people are fed up with birbs but I like how all their available kits are collected in this box so it's indeed a one-time purchase.Anyway, how do they play in Spearhead? Are they any fun or is it one of those unbalanced gimmicky forces? LGS runs a Spearhead league and I want to jump in after not playing AoS for almost 2 years.
It’s time for a creative exercise, anons.By a twist of fate, GW has contracted (You) to write the End of Edition campaign that leads into The Last World or a scenario of a similar concept. The following guidelines must be maintained:>The Realms must be made into one(1) world/plane/celestial body>None of the current 8 realms can be excluded from being a part of this new world>No faction or grand alliance is allowed a clear and substantial victory>Physically active gods must be moved to a more passive role, one that severely limits their physical presence among their followers and in battle, usually only able to manifest via eidolons or a similar method >No gods can die, but they can be rendered absent to their followers >Whatever is done with gods must either maintain or replace their currently available model, no squatting>No playable faction can be eliminated Hard mode: Preserve one or more named mortal characters Dante must die mode: Make it goodSo, anon. How would (You) usher in the next edition?
>>98715330Aw shit this is easy I'm stealing various bits from other posts and myself!>The Realms must be made into one(1) world/plane/celestial bodyAzyr is invaded by Chaos who takes the core of Malus to the 8 points, Sigmar in an effort to reclaim is uses some magical thingy to have the core IMPLODE sucking in chunks of realms through the realm gates into the 8 points collapsing onto it. Azyr is practically gone as a single realm and broken up. All factions must evacuate the eight points or various other spots or are sucked into the collapsing star. The various winds of magic and energies coalesced into a large new world. (This is your new planet, the realms still exist but chunks are torn out and now basically exist on this new centralized location. Realm gates no longer function properly due to this catastrophic event so anyone stuck on the planet is stuck there barring methods of transportation.)>No faction or grand alliance is allowed a clear and substantial victoryEasy for death and destro because uhh... They just don't get those. But Chaos and Order are both relatively in shambles, chunks of the realms they inhabited are gone, Sigmar's main base is gone, Chaos's main base is gone so neither side particularly won and instead it's more losses.>Physically active gods must be moved to a more passive role, one that severely limits their physical presence among their followers and in battle, usually only able to manifest via eidolons or a similar methodNagash is already like that, he effectively stays in Shyish sending out avatars to do shit(which per Soul Wars he already does), Sigmar and Archaon had a big fuckoff battle not necessarily killing them but both are MIA (another thing like the end times with them fighting it out in space, WHO KNOWS WHERE THEY COULD BE) Alarielle and Morathi can just do avatar shit (Morathi already basically has that)Continued ->
>>98715197Why is it called godeater who’s eating them
>>98715406>who’s eating themNo one now. It's his son, not him
>>98715406Spoilers for the first book: the MC is approached by a crazy warrior lady who thinks he's chosen by Khorne, who she worships in the aspect of the Godeater. Because he's trying to lead an uprising against Sigmarite colonizers, he adopts the moniker Godeater's Son because it sounds cool and marketable. At the end of the novel he learns that the Godeater is not Khorne at all, but Archaon.
>>98715394The factions don't necessarily need to change though I imagine cities, chaos, and other factions that actually have CITIES themselves will need some touch ups. I reckon we'll get a time skip (who knows if the magic of this event made various characters immortal or if Malus has some weird shit with all the winds of magic coiling into it, time tends to be weird, some folks live for longer, it's very different than the various realms themselves) The gods don't have direct access to the worlds in the same way (due to realmgates fizzling out), they can send avatars but now are primarily focused on fixing up their various realms so they can't put full focus down on events. The way I'm assuming important characters or things got sucked in would be a big massive fuckoff end of campaign battle with everyone trying to go to the eight points to stop Chaos (or following other people or being commanded by gods to do so) so all your big names will be there for whatever reason. (With chaos it's easy, everyone else probably needs a bit more justification)Now you've got your immortal realms, and the "New World" or whatever bullshit you wanna call it. We could timeskip a few years to the point of factions having set boundaries, cities, and a new status quo. Chaos hasn't united since Archaon has fucked up (haven't figured out what to do with his model but could be they summon effectively an "avatar of Archaon" or be'lakor has some fuckass pretending to be him) I do still enjoy Order, Destro and Death working together to some extent so I'd have them all be neighboring and it's less about factional alliances and more about the realms you initially came from. You still have your alliegences but culturally you're gonna be more understanding to someone from Shyish than say, some dickhead from Chamon. The old alliances have come together a bit more since the gods aren't as active in being dickheads to fuck with things, but this has also lead to much more internal strife!
Why Lizardmen won so hard over Dwarfs?
>>98715609They were 1/1 on disappointments though
>>98715330the problem with this exercise is that I don't dislike what the rumors have been saying so far except for malerion getting allegedly corrupted by slaanesh which I seriously hope it's some exaggeration or hyperbolic fuckupso I'll just add random parts I want in addition to what's been suggested by those rumors>the parts of the realms that don't become part of the last world still exist but only in the form of highly volatile atolls and subrealms scattered through space, accessible via realmgates and needing to be traversed to go from one gate to another sometimes (think an overgrown webway)>these pieces of the realm are arranged like enormous planetary discs around the last world, between these discs can sit moons and minor celestial objects >the main satellites of the last world are mallus, with the corpse of dracothion on it and its surface split so it trails energies sometimes, the erratic bad moon, the ethereal lunaghast and the orb duplicita who rarely let themselves be seen, and 8points, which sits stationary at the north pole>orcs are the ones who break chaos' siege of azyr and give an unexpected moment of respite for the final pushback and gambit>destruction reaches azyr by riding the realm of ghur, kragnos fractures the realm of beasts in half with its earthquaking rampage and the two halves of the realms are like hinging jaws that literally bite into azyr, this kills dracothion that bleeds thousands of little egg-comets that give birth to its last descendants >alarielle is not diminished or killed as a deity but she has to channel most of her powers into the oak of (the last) ages so that its roots can literally hold together the foundations of the world>other gods have similar megastructures or vital processes to tend to with their magical powers>chaos manages to reach azyr not by sheer bruteforce or by picking up again the varanite plot, but by making a deal with both skaven and hashutites
>>98715656>the eshin assassin that established the secret tunnels into azyr is the one who got a model and did everything else like blowing up the black pyramid>the black pyramid is blown up again by the way, in the new world the pieces of the pyramid make separate smaller irregular structures scattered all over, which the ossiarchs establish cities around, and nagash won't be back to full power until the pieces are magically connected to one another or physically put back together, the biggest piece is the shyish nadir at the south pole of the world>chaos tries to use ignax against dracothion during the siege but the fyreslayers activate the rune left in it and wrestle it away from archaon's control>when the last world forms ignax will be chained to act as its sun, its first capture was in fact a trial run for this project>mallus was supposed to sit at the center of the last world and power it, but the project was interrupted by chaos, the lizards intervened by using a lot of their own ships and the slann powers, and kroak's, to establish a makeshift high-tech heart core that supports the world instead of mallus, this strains the lizards a lot, but also it creates a conveniently jurassic hollow earth >the dwarfs were sigmar's greatest allies in the construction of this enormous joining of the realms and the new realm comes with pillars, chains and tunnels of dwarf making for its intersections deep underground, the one realm that didn't receive those is ghur because hashut turned his back on the gods before the plan was completed, except ghur still clicked together like the others, so hashut must have done the minimum at the very least, without telling anyone
>>98715677Oh shit are you going with my idea from various threads on "the last world" being a pseudo arc built by Order as a means to escape the chaos and have a secret little spot built together?
>thought of going classic black and red chorfs>suddenly remember ZhatanBlue chorfs? Might work.
>>98715710Forgot pic
>>98715197audiobookbay has the audio fwiw>>98715428I mean he is a chosen champion of khorne, Archaon just hoped his edge would lead him past it into his Everchosen. The author abandoned that entirely though.
>>98715708I'm relatively sure that was the canonical plan to begin with, either a place safe from chaos or a place safe from chaos because it also cages down chaos, but obviously that can't be the case, even though it would also be cool if at the center of the engine inside the hollow earth there was the one direct permanent connection to the realm of chaos and daemons have to be summoned or push through lizards to reach the last world by emerging from faults in the groundyou know, like coming out of hell
>>98715742I think last thread (or the one before it) I saw someone mention the idea of the realms collapsing and getting sucked into the 8 points basically blowing up Chaos' main form of assault so the idea of a more level playing field (again) against Chaos seemed fun. A fresh start where each faction is setting down, less organization on the bad guys end and the good guys are ready to fight back.
>>98715710>>98715719It's you and Knotley.
>>98715844>all these paints for something that looks like contrast slopyikes
>>98715844Really not a fan of that one. I'll have to test my own schemes.
>>98715911Kinda spitballin' here but I feel like this could wokr but you'd have to go more cartoonish. A lot of oldhammer schemes you wouldn't necessarily see metal or other shit it would be brighter primary colors. Instead of gold you'd have yellow, pitch black armor with the decals, yellow rivets in the blue armor, and brighter red for the cloth. I think you could have this look solid (maybe have the bull fur be black too)
What's this rumor site you guys have been posting? Not TGA the percentage accuracy one.
>>98715950he made it up
>>98715950I made it up.
>>98715954He made it up?>>98715956YOU MADE IT UP???
>>98715936I was more thinking dark blue cloth among blacks and bronzes. Maybe blue fire when feeling fancy. Not really full on retro scheme despite the inspiration.
How to paint the blue flames that helsmiths have without making it look like it’s oxidized?
Reading TLW stuff seriously pisses me off again and again. How can Stormcast even be made if they can't be forged? WHAT'S THE POINT IF THEY CAN'T BE FORGED? WHAT'S THE POINT OF ALL THESE NEW NOVELS IF EVERYTHING SET UP BY THEM GETS NUKED BY ARCHAON? AGAIN??? FUUUCK I HATE THIS I HATE GAMES WORKSHOP I HATE TOTALWARFAGS
>>98715987>blue flames that helsmiths haveColour blind?
>>98715999It’s bloo
>>98715991>Believing Lieslop from attention whores.
>>98715991I was under the impression stormcasts would still be forged, like at this point some of the crew who fucked off (sacrosanct) alongside whats her face, cool wizard lady on dracoline. They all get back together post world exploding and continue making stormcast or fixing existing ones.Maybe there's some whole thing about it takes much longer because they give more of a shit and it turns out if you're not just hammering out a stormcast a second and take your time with them they don't come out as fucked up.
>>98716038According to leaks, which all could be made up bullshit, 5e gimmick with stormcast is that they pass on their role to someone else upon their own death. Outside that there's already a chamber who's been forging them even without Sigmar since 3e.
Until slaanesh is shown to have broken free or Khul has thrusted his cock into the great parch, all rumors are null for the setting.
>>98716100The skink teta-XL said the world is falling though
>>98716133Skinks are no better than the drug addicts that you find selling their asses on the streets of washington. Now if it was a slaan, there might have been some ethos behind it, but I aint trustin a dirty skink.
>>98716133The one on the coatle??
>They End Times the setting again>Large amounts of people drop the game>No Total Warfags pick up the game>Everyone mad af>Sales tank>6th edition comes in sooner than expected>"Uh uh jk guys that was just the nightmare prophecy of some character">Sales don't go back up because the setting's too volatile now to make any long term connectionsMasterful gambit
what if the last world rumors are just a big lie to conceal malerions arrival.
>>98716258I'd hope it was a way to weed out leakers in the company
>>98716012nigga wat
>>98716237End Times sold more than anything prior. AoS sold more than WHF. It'll never change. GW just have to release something to be successful.
So was the new Kyng guy like a Hammerhal plumber a few years ago?
>>98715991>WHAT'S THE POINT OF ALL THESE NEW NOVELSBL are produced and sold once, for one short window. GW don't stock an enduring catalogue. GW routinely retcon novels, the setting, etc. Remember Eight Lamentations? Remember the RGW audio dramas? GW don't give a fuck about the continuity of the setting, it's why every edition has been a massive shakeup.
>>98716328They'll just retcon city Duardin to be a tiny population that joins the majority Duardin who didn't give up their traditions. Bonus points for "they were hiding underground unnoticed"
>>98716328
Can GW really be so incredibly tone-deaf and stupid their gonna make us wait 12 years for Dark Elves/Malekith then show him being played like a fiddle, or worse, corrupted, even after he should hate Slaneesh more than anyone?
>>98716388He's gonna be a leader of orcs (real ones, the tortured elf ones, not retard mushroom people)
>>98716388Can’t have all flavors of (a)elf until we get a foundation of dwarves I suppose.
>>98715950https://rumours-tracker.netlify.app/There's not much to it just an offshoot of tga one of the guys there made to have a more orderly list or some shit. Afaik the entire "site" is just these two pages listing rumours
>>98716316>AoS sold more than WHFThis little factoid still baffles me. Pre-ghb aos was such a clusterfuck, how fucking dire was whfb that it got outsold by that already? The only new armies at the time were stormies, blades of khorne, and fucking fyreslayers.
>>98716495GW in general was in the toilet at the time with one of the worst CEOs in charge, it's why even 40k was losing to their competition and how so many companies were able to spring up and hold general attendance.
>>98716287That’s the ideal scenario yeah>>98716358Imagine a whole subfaction of them…
>>98714909>removing one of the best things in the setting’s worldbuilding for no reasondon’t even joke about that
>>98716658Honestly I can see it happen with how little EE we've been seeing, and how EEs function in 4th edition.
>>98716287Problem is all the leakers agree. Unless there's like one dude feeding all the rumourmongers I don't think that's what's happening here.
>>98716495>Pre-ghb aos was such a clusterfuckThe tournament scene is irrelevant? The GHB came out a year after launch, most people weren't diving into the 2k mindset from day 1 like they're forced to nowadays so AoS' scenario driven play was fine for what was lower point games - battalions Vs battalions. People overstate matched play autism. I played for about a year (?) before BCR launched and I shifted to points just using sourbreaths and greenskinz. It was a dice game anyway so the balance autism didn't come up honestly but people weren't dropping what would be 5k SCE Vs 1k armies either because common sense and game time.
>>98716689>how little EE we've been seeingYou mean how pretty much every army in the first quarter were getting in 4th? >how EEs function in 4th edition.They’ve been a mixed bag but I don’t know what you even mean by this.
>>98714381>TQI'd require five new kits but one would be a vulkite refresh so I feel like that has some leeway.>kit 1Vulkite refresh in the style of the warcry warband, so slightly more armoured, better poses, etc. Pretty straightforward>kit 2Again taking cues from the warband, turn the drothblood thane >>98714662 into a whole unit. Covered in droth scale/skin, more savage and draconic, etc. Make it a dual kit too. One build option with the dual fang-hammer/pick things, one build with essentially the fyreslayer version of ogre ironfists. Again, make them savage.Keeping the hearthguard as is, we end up with three infantry units with a relatively distinct aesthetic each. We have the hearthguard in "classic" naked fyreslayer style, the new vulkites in a kind of more (half-)armoured thing, and finally the drothbloods going full native with droth larp and more savage weapons.Anyway, that's the infantry done, now on to the special units. We're going full Droth>kit 3Kyndledroth riders. Pretty straightforward again, the long-requested droth cav. Make them mid-sized, maybe slightly bigger than the new named hero one. They'd be your standard 3 man "monstrous cavalry" unit. Two build options, one is normal offensive variant with lances or halberds, the other would be valkyrie support version, riders looking like picrel with branding irons which could apply runes (i.e. buffs) to your own units on the fly.
>>98716739>kit 4Droth chariot/warmachine hybrid thing, again using slightly larger kyndledroths attached to some kind of warmachine on wheels. First build option would be a flamethrower thing, with big bellows in the back spraying the fire over the droth. Second version would be a ballista launching the long javelins present on the runeson droth kit. Both versions would have a gun shield shaped like grimnir's face, in a similar vein to how the kharadron ironclad has grungi's face. The flamethrower/ballista should be launching shit out of his mouth, almost like grimnir himself is breathing fire etc. You know those fire chariot head guys from elden ring? Kind of like that, picrel with a droth pulling it. In game terms would probably function somewhat similar to spawn of chotec. Maybe faster.>kit 5Alright we've arrived at our obligatory centrepiece unit. Like how khazalids took the throne of power and upped it to 11 I'd do the same for the anvil of doom. The actual anvil is placed on some type of wheeled juggernaut/temple structure, with a high runepriest ready to strike a rune. He should have some crazy big beard. Anyway, the juggernaut is pulled by either 2 or 3 of the aforementioned kyndledroths, or maybe a slightly different looking full magmadroth if you could fit it. Can also have an alternate build for a named priest or something like the boat and chorf taurus, but I don't really careWish I was at my pc to make some shitty ms paint mockups for this stuff. Fun little brainstorm exercise.
>>98716738>You mean how pretty much every army in the first quarter were getting in 4th?So basically not in long while.>They’ve been a mixed bag but I don’t know what you even mean by this.They just sanitized summoned units at this point.
>>98716495>how fucking dire was whfb that it got outsold by that already?yeah it was really fuckin badit's pretty much a known fact that the Space Marine Tactical Squad kit outsold all of WHFBbut there's another rumour that sales of just Nuln Oil made more money than all of WHFBand honestly, that second rumour sounds believable enough> The only new armies at the time were stormies, blades of khorne, and fucking fyreslayers.Note that keywordNEWthat's the real big deal here, new armies, new models
>>98716855>it's pretty much a known fact that the Space Marine Tactical Squad kit outsold all of WHFB>but there's another rumour that sales of just Nuln Oil made more money than all of WHFBI can easily believe this being the case locally in certain stores or regions, but I believe on a company-wide level this is pretty much an urban myth.>new armies, new modelsIt had been a while since fantasy got an entirely new army (daemons splitting off in 7th I guess?) but they got a pretty steady stream of model releases, I don't think that was ever really the problem. Quantity-wise, at least.
>>98714381Cute spikey dog
Do you think IDK should get the same treatment as FS and get bundled into a new range like Umbraneth or something? I don't feel like they are nearly as narrow a concept as Slayers, even if GW acts like they are.
>>98716965Well IDK with shadow elves will atleast be more interesting than slopping together with DoK.I guess.
>>98716965It ultimately depends on what they want to do design wise with dark elves. We have more rumors of dok getting souped then anything happening to idoenth.
Do people play Spearhead on TTS?Figured might be a fun way to get into AOS on the cheap.
>>98716994Yeah, I guess DoK are in an ever weirder position with like a dozen kits in total. I think the specter of Old World Dark Elves looming over them will ultimately decide their fate.
>>98716965No. Idoneth have a larger level of fandom already. There are secondaries who like the funny crab. Fyreslayers never had that. Souping factions feels a lot like giving up, when there's so many ideas that can still be done.
Tzeentch and slaanesh are very lucky they're considered a "core part" of warhammer by now so they never get included in these type of discussions>>98717046Eh I don't think dark elves are a problem for dok since they only really have the original witch elf kit + the cauldron kit in common, and both of those have older versions tow could use (like how e.g. night goblins or the treeman are handled atm)The real shadow (heh) looming over DoK is malerion's army.Man, considering all the souping that have happened (and will in all likelihood happen for DoK) I wonder how many original 1st edition battletomes are still left unsouped (or squatted in the case of Bonnesplitterz)
>>98716748those guys were cooler than the game deserved
>>98717116>I wonder how many original 1st edition battletomes are still left unsouped (or squatted in the case of Bonnesplitterz)Alright so going by lexicanum AoS 1e had 22 battletomes. However 3 of those were meme ones (everchosen, chaos dreadholds, chaos dominions) that don't count. Additionally stormcast had 2 extra tomes, as well as khorne having one extra. Effectively, we had 22-6= 16 actual different armies with a tome of their own. Their fates are as follows:>souped-fyreslayers (into khazalite holds)-pestilens (into skaven)-ironjawz (into orruk warclans)-beastclaw raiders (into ogor mawtribes)>un-souped-legions of nagash (into SBGL, NH, OBR)>squatted-bonesplitterz (though first souped into warclans)>survived-stormcast-khorne-seraphon-flesh-eater courts-sylvaneth-tzeentch-kharadron overlords-nurgle-daughters of khaine-idonethSo for anyone keeping score, that's 10 survivors out of 16, with 4 souped, 1 unsouped, and one straight up squatted. Though I think next edition that list will have 9 survivors and 5 souped.
>>98714843>since when did we start doing this at 9 and not 10We've been doing it at page 8 since forever. It's only lately that we've started doing it at page 9 because the board has become slower
>>98717230It’s been exceptionally fast lately though. These threads also haven’t really slowed down and are probably easily in the top 3 fastest generals on this board.
>>98717251>These threads also haven’t really slowed downWe're currently at about ~140 generals since the start at the year, which is actually very consistent with 2025 which was around the same number in the same period (january 1 - september 22).However, in 2024 we were already at 243 posts. In 2021, peak covid time, we were at a staggering 679 posts! Same patterns hold for most of the other generals, /wfg/ was more active back when it was a literal dead game compared to now.I do agree we've had a nice burst of activity lately, even before last week's reveal show. I can't be bothered to check if this is actually true but I feel like this general gets more active in the later half of the year. I guess because of the seasons or some shit.
>>98717329bunch of midwestern homebodies.Or slavic homebodies, it's like the same shit.
Kitbashers and converters, what will (you) do to these guys once you get your hands on them? I don't know about the rest, but I know I want to turn the fat guy into a necromancer. Turn the hammer into a staff, maybe try to hang a couple skulls on his wheel. I feel like I'll have to try to do something about that obvious twin tailed comet on the belt though.
>>98717426Fat necromancer is not something I've ever seen, could be fun
>>98717426Shit... I should do that. I'm going to target later and picking him up.
>>98717430It seems to be surprisingly rare. The only one I can think of off hand is the fat fuck in Baldur's Gate 3. But the hourglass really gives me the idea for it.
>>98717003GW games aren't actually good, they're carried by miniatures.
>>98717659Even my friends who do not give a single fuck about tabletop or warhammer seemed to really enjoy warcry at least
>>98717426>>98717493They're out now?
>>98717787Yes, I bought one yesterday got the dragon guy. People have also figured out the codes so you can look on the side of the box to figure out what you're gonna getBrother Belias (priest)NG1 26146Colour Bearer Brigson (banner) - Not in Darkwater boxNG1 26133Kenzo, the Drake Blade (drake knight) Not in Darkwater boxNG1 26131Fusil-Trooper Brenwick (gunner) Not in Darkwater boxNG1 26140NG1 26141Caul Durnan (crossbowman)NG1 26152NG1 26156Ignus Sharn (burning wizard)NG1 26160NG1 26161Safiya Ashcross (witch hunter)NG1 26138
>>98717787Apparently
>>98717793Awesome, my LGS doesn't seem to have them yet.
>>98717827if you're in burgerland you can seemingly find them at Targets.
>>98717793>>98717830If they're not at the pokemon spot near the register where else would they be?
>>98717880If I had to hazard a guess... If they're not by self checkout at the front, check the back by board games or electronics with collectibles by the funko pop shit.
>>98717793No Warcry rules? Very gay
>>98717897I feel like Warcry's about where underworlds is at this point. Any good shit is coming from the players and not GW. Though at least underworlds still has a few releases leftover I guess.
>be Helsmiths>using magic turns you to stone because dwarves >of the 4 wizard models only the named character shows any signs of turning to stone >daemon"smiths" with ability to repair war machines>look like generic wizards, nothing that suggests being a smith (like a hammer etc.)>be ashen elder>priest>not a wizard, not a smith>visibly turning to stone>has a hammerBravo geedubs
>>98716965if idoneth have to be bundled with dark elves then sulvaneth would have to be bundled with light elvesotherwise sylvaneth and idoneth could be paired together
>>98717430Being well fed doesn't give off a death related vibe
https://x.com/chiakizoo_/status/2101904264130134068
>>98717494That guy was such an asshole.
I think if they're gonna End Times us they shouldn't make the map a hackneyed fantasy europe with the evil chaos guys up north. They should be down south where it's arid
>>98718093Yeah it's kinda weird.Perhaps this was just an alt daemonsmith before the lore got fleshed out.
>>98718093it's pretty easy actually>wizard > priest>big hat > no hat>magic ≈ miracles>swirly magic bits = wizard>symbols of office = priestboth theoretically turn to stone because both are casters, one way or another the one that is actually turning to stone is only visibly so because the hat isn't there the one with magic swirly bits buffs the machines because those machines have magic swirly bits too
>>98718190Harasheth the Gorged Chudness disagrees
>>98718298Also while some did hammers more models just wielding random other shit were made.Actually I think that is the only hammer wielding daemonsmith. There were also Drazhoath throwing fireballs and 2 staff wielding models FW made.
>>98718093>Elder had to give up magic cause his stone cancer got too bad
>>98718355
>>98718330is Warmachine still like £80 for a box of three five no option 25mm 3d prints?
>>98718511Also this one.
is grugni pronounced gruñi or grug-ni?
>>98718553Neither. It's Grungni.
>>98718557but is that grun-ñi, or grung-ni?
>>98718563I've always assumed to latter, with a rolling R
>>98718563In the western Kharadron dialect you gargle the g.
>>98718553grung-ni
Goddamn this guy's fat.
>>98716334Wish there were more proper competition in the market so GW studios could not pull this shit so confidently
>>98718682he's not fat because he's gluttonous or slothful or ill, he's fat because he's greedy
>>98718682We really do need more fat bastards outside MoN and ogors. Like is it too much to ask for a corpulent jade wizard for CoS? It shouldn't be.
>>98715991>How can Stormcast even be made if they can't be forged? rumors say that new stormcasts cannot be made, but old stormcasts can pass down their powers to a new guy, so there's a fixed total number of stormcasts whether the next gen stormie remembers the previous stormie's life or they fuse into one being and which personality if any takes over will be a matter of discussion I guess >WHAT'S THE POINT IF THEY CAN'T BE FORGED? hypocritical people criticised reforging because to them it meant that were no stakes, all while accepting for granted that marines who aren't immortal like stormcasts have even lower stakes due to plot armor, these people are what gw is aiming to sell to, so they bend the knee to them regardless of whether it makes their product better, stormcasts were made at the corporate level as slop for pigs and will be sloppified further if it's what's needed for pigs to eat them>WHAT'S THE POINT OF ALL THESE NEW NOVELS IF EVERYTHING SET UP BY THEM GETS NUKED BY ARCHAON? AGAIN??novels never mattered, all characters survive anyway, these stories may survive as legendary tales of the age of myth>but isn't the age of myth before stormcasts came around?now the age of myth is the period before the last world
Battlescroll update: https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/scusey9f/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-quarterly-battlescroll-updates/
>>98718754>There are a couple of changes that open up list building options. Firstly, a number of infantry heroes can now be included in regiments, and a lot of units have had their reinforcement restrictions lifted. Scrolling through the doc now. They really did remove a fuckton of regimental restrictions. Thank god.
>>98718754>>98718809You can use foot wizards as an additional hero in a regiment. That's nice
>>98718518I would say that it depends. Warjacks and Warbeasts are designed to be fully magnetised, therefore reducing the need to restrict builds or to hassle yourself into customising your pieces for tournaments and such.The rest I would say is around the same price as GW on a points basis. Warmachine is after all a smaller-sized game, and I would say the scale is larger too, most miniatures are 32 to 50mm range, with great detailing. I enjoy both, for different purposes, but it's certainly been cheaper getting back into WM than it was onboarding into AoS. Also, they sell some of their factions' STLs, so that can severely drive down costs.
>>98718735It would be fun if stormcasts had different ways to be reforged now, depending on the individual or stormhost's traditions>the stormcast has a squire or chosen spiritual heir he passes down his powers and experience, and ptsd, to>the stormcast leaves his stuff around on death and whoever picks them up and is worthy becomes tho-I mean a stormcast>the stormcast has large groups of sacrifices that allow him to return from death with his own identity maintained >the stormcast has to fight his way out of nagash's grip with the help of priests and pilgrims and morrda in a lengthy process>the stormcast's resurrection is aided by a different gimmicky power source, and is tied to the maintenance of that machinery>the stormcast isn't resurrected in a roaring lightning, but heals slowly and over time, in a cursed painful immortality
I hadn't noticed before but Urak Taar's profile says his regiment can be joined by "Any Hashutite Commander" and not "0-1 Hashutite Commander" as it says for other heroes. So his regiment can be all heroes if you like. Not that it'd be in any way practical, but I'm pro meme regiments.
>>98718718CoS has quite a few fat bastards tbf
>all Warcry warbands can be reinforced nowNeat.
>>98718355>>98718511I don't really like helsmiths all that much but wow with the exception of warmachines the forgeworld stuff was by far the ugliest take on chorfs
>>98718862low test post
>>98718872They didn't call it the legion of ass for nothing anon
When are we getting more Helsmiths releases? Or are we just doomed to have half a range with the odd character model released every year or two, like the other dwarf factions?
>>98718872lmao we're really at a time when fakegrogs pretend they liked fw chorfs
>>98718888Yeah no one ever liked FW chorfs. Not a soul. Yup.
>>98718884It's barely been a year since they hit shelves, you can wait a while longer.
>>98718884Chill out brother it's been a year
>>98718884>When are we getting more Helsmiths releases?next edition, lammasu, shartor, train, spells, scenery, trust the plan
>>98718895Surely you can post a fw chorf you painted, since you obviously liked them so much?
>>98718909Here's an old WIP. Truthfully I've been slacking in the painting of them but I own a lot more, both recast and official.
>>98718862yeah, they look very mean and scary to me. I don't want to collect that it makes me sad
>>98718912The legion grows...
>>98718845>Reinforced GorgersInfantry getting raped >>98718819bigger scales are a detriment tbhon. Conquest veers into toy territory
>>98718921To be fair to that anon there's some really good chorf prints around these days. Hope the legion is still growing.
>>98718908We're not doing Shar'tor again. We're also not doing Vorgorath, Skaarac, or Mazarall again. FW no longer has the power.
>>98718912holy shit he's big
>bull centaur>taurus centaurus
>>98718930FW doesn't have to do them, GW just has to use the name for their new charactersince shartor is officially part of aos and can't be used by aos or tww or tow anywaybut any other bull centaur character would work fine anyway
>>98714783Storm of chaos had an all slayer dwarf army list, they even released makaisons goblinhewer for that campaign.
>>98718937if you don't specify that the centaur is part bull people will think it's part fat horse, regardless of the horns
>>98718912>first posted in 2020 with a different filenamenice larp, faggot
>>98718963I use randomized filenames.
>>98718963chances are it's actually his and grabbed the photo from the archives, good luck on the goalpost moving if he happens to post a new photo of the same model
>>98718754Damn, Lord-Vigilant on Gryph-Stalker stopped dropping in points? And he's still complete trash? But they can't actually go any lower because it'd be absurd? Wow, it's almost like his rules are the problem!
>>98718949man i really want to get some of the old slayers, but fuck me they're crazy expensive
>>98718967sure you do>>98718974I'll eat my words if he posts a timestamped picture, he's a larper until then. FW chorfs were almost universally hated
>>98719005>FW chorfs were almost universally hatedYeah, no, only the price was
>>98719005Here they are again alongside my new fattie.I know you'll just cope again, I've seen this song and dance before.
>>98718355>>98718511>>98718528Get mogged
>>98719034kino
Damn I am pretty hyped about the dwarfs. Dont like how some of the units look but will just use old world dwarfs instead of the lasrifledorfs. Feels good man
>>98719075Yeah I'll just ignore the ugly gunners. I'll put up with the clanshields I'll get from spearheads and such but almost everything else is decent to great.
>>98719095Yeah I agree. I am thinking about using irondrakes instead of the gunners.
>>98718897>>98718898It's nice to have the reassurance, especially considering how anemic some of the ranges are despite being around for years.
>>98718682Scale creep is real
>>98719005my FLGS owner has a huge army of the FW chorfs.i personally much prefer the helsmiths version, but the FW had its fanbase. i was not a fan of the troops being mostly faceless and having those scifi dome helmets
>>98717897Why would GW bother when WarCry is going away next year on Battleworld?
>>98716237It doesn't matter what they do with the dumb fluff. GW is safe as long as people like me continue sinking money into "Age of Sigmar" or "Battleworld" or 6th edition regardless, because the miniatures are the absolute best in the business. I can make up my own rules and fluff.
>>98719075>but will just use old world dwarfs insteadusing ironbreakers and irondrakes instead of clanshields and clangunners is really a life saverthe only and only shame is the lack of a thinner gun to proxy the other gunner optionmaybe there's a functional way to convert the guns somehow?
>>98718986My buddy had that thing but the goblin hewer is one of those illusive models, like the second rendition metal steam tank, you'd know about but never see irl on the table. It's been a while so memory is a bit foggy but I hated that thing almost as much as his organ gun, it had a pretty brutal misfire chart though so if it when derp, I was the one who was laughing.
the update to Battlescrolls is up>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/scusey9f/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-quarterly-battlescroll-updates/
seems to be a decent update but the ogor changes are questionable
>>98719190It's always good etiquette to check the thread before posting.
>>98719159Best thing that could happen is new thunderers for old world
>>98719220Yeah. I get raising the glutton point cost but no reduction to cleavers or gutseers is weird.
>>98719024NOOOOO! YOU HAVE TO HATE ALL WHFB MODELS! BROOSS STOP HIM! I DON'T BELIEVE IT!
>>98706353I really want a novel for the new schizoid skink priest, he sounds like the kind of "powerful, but not that important right now" character that can get in a lot of lone adventures and shenanigans, like thanquol, the mount being blessed by tepok allows it to be intelligent enough for lesser forms of thought and communication, and the type and extent of visions and autonomy he gets probably make him an odd case in lizardmen society so he would have quite a few good contrasting interactions wherever he goes
>>98719330I want to see a skink have a theological argument with another skink of a different group>whether morathi & elves are in the plan>the place of dracothion in the pantheon>discrimination in coalesced & starborne>preferred divination method & snacksand it all devolves into embarrassing spergouts and childish insults
>>98719154The fluff will be good anyway trust the plan>>98719034Such a funny look
>>98719283I shall burn them all in true WFB tradition.
>>98719380Sounds like /tg/ on a good day.
Do we have any idea how KhazHolds are gonna play?
>>98719443They talked a bit about it on the stream, they've got a theme of grudges and hitting back harder if they take it on the chin first. The Valaya golems provide bonuses to the rest of the army if destroyed was the example. They're also very dwarfy, so slow, sturdy and defensively focused. Probably well-statted all around but with little in the way of run and charge, teleportation or extra charge dice.
>>98719443You shut your own khazhole!
>>98719380>whether morathi & elves are in the planMorathi part snake. Snake. Lizard! Morathi plan! Idiot Green-fin!
>>98719434Yeah, but the average fa/tg/uy isn't even one forty-fifth as cute as a skink.
>>98719550>part snake>scorpion stingernot the brightest frill at your temple, are you?
>>98719434>/tg//troglodon grooms/
>>98714381TQ: They never should have been their own faction, they always should have been part of a normal dwarf army but early AoS was too focused on being retarded and cringe to have "normal" fantasy armies
>>98719560Snake with wing still snake! Stake with sting still snake! Was-world faker! Fin must be green because brain green of kharadron ale poisons!
>>98719643>Snake with sting still snake!Try that argument at any pit of sotek, I'm sure they'll be thrilled to show you each and every one of their snakes and which end they use to kill you with venom.
>>98719643W*rmblood.>>98719716R*tbreeder.
>>98718330That's a djinn
>>98719034Nigga bout to land an airplane
>>98718932That's what she said
>>98719283Shartor isn't a wfb model
>>98719627>can't even save images from 4chan>dogshit opinionChacks out.If your file ends with -m you're retarded
>Drazhoath the Ashen? The Legion of Azgorh? Anon, I asked for your favorite character and army from Warhammer Fantasy Battles.
>>98719898infernal guard are
Reminder that Urak Taar's 1st mention is older than Kharadron
>>98719627>anime picrel outside of /a/ or /jp/>revisionist faggot opinion that means nothing and says nothing except implying that something else is bad by a metric you literally made up80 IQ, likely a pedophile, unloved by immediate family>>98719916>chacks out>autistic about file format of picrel images90 IQ, likely short and obese, unloved by immediate family
>>98719898It's funny how he kind of exists in limbo now. Not WFB or AoS anymore.
>>98719627>Cities of Sigmar soupBAD!>Duardin soup after a decade retconned and half Fyreslayers squatted Good.
>>98719964He's obviously a WHFB model, they can't sculpt a resin model within the timeframe they had
>>98719954Is it really? I wish I could say I hope he gets a novel, but it would be 15% him and 85% some CoS shitter because the author can’t write Urak speaking in third person.
>>98719954I don't think he was mentioned by nameI'm not even sure it's the renegade fyreslayer we heard about
>>98719974Perhaps. Maybe they just slapped on the fyreslayer bits at the last minute but it's not like it quite looks in line with the original WFB releases either.
>>98719996Compare to the closest thing next to it. the taur'ruk
>>98719132Chorf is about the same size (but fat) as the fireslayer. Chorf is on top of a scenic rock.
>>98720054The troops are still a little taller than wfb dwarfs but that's mostly because they're hunched forward and tucked in to fit on 20mms. The actual scale difference is not that big.
>>98720054all 3 are the same size. the chorf and fyreslayer both have tall hats, and the chorf is on a tactical rock. put them all on the ground and measure where the tops of their heads should be and they are all about the same size
>>98719996It came out in May 2016 You can see the WIP from 2013-2015
>>98719576>>98719556i don’t like where you’re going with this
>>98718093>>daemon"smiths" with ability to repair war machines>>look like generic wizards, nothing that suggests being a smith (like a hammer etc.)This is my gripe with them too. But, of course, the only daemonsmith model that ever actually successfully conveyed the idea of a "daemonsmith" is the middle guy here >>98718355 (who also has a neat little backpack with a furnace in it). Helsmith models in general veer too far into the "magitech that's more magic than tech" aesthetic for me, although that's probably intentional and to keep them visually distinct from KO and Skaven.
>>98719882>>98719884Fuck you for making me giggle
>>98719627We need a faction that looks like this.
>>98719024Damn this dude is huge
what site to search for printfiles for aos stuff? I need OOP Frost Sabres.
>>98720119>You can see the WIP from 2013-2015Nta but that exists? Didn't know that. Not that I don't think it's a whfb sculpt that ran late, but if they sculpted out vorgaroth in 2 years they could've done shartor in a year hypothetically.
>>98720363>OOP
>>98720407I have two reinforced units of those already that im using in my list, so I cant borrow the kitties away from the unit. kinda excessive to buy two more boxes for something going to legends next year. anyway found some files, so gonna try these I suppose. thingiverse com/thing:7125942
>>98720431Damn anon that's a lot of kitties
ANONS ANONS! THEY FIXED A SHIT TON OF BULLSHIT WITH LIST BUILDING! Like nearly all the shitty generic foot heroes that you needed a second drop for can now just be run as a hero normally HOLY SHIT.This doesn't fix nighthaunt being fucking stupid BUT my FEC and NH listbuilding is gonna be easy as piss. As someone with both NH and FEC this shit's fantastic. They made the shitty new Archregent into a generic hero (which is fine since they dropped him from a 2 cast to 1) your ghoul pop can be an addon hero, it's not just the fucking executioner or the hero versions of horrors/flayers.
>>98720431Hrothgorn has one but I'd use fenrisian wolves
Who wins this fight anons!
>>98720141You don't like lizard butts?Because that's where it's going.Skink skanks.
>>98720583Poison always wins
>>98720500Alright that's aome nice quality of life I have to win>>98720583>I'm sure to win because my krulety is superior
>>98720583With 20 Hobgrots he can take him
>>98720141Only platonic grooming
>>98720583I'd hate being a giant in a world of spearmen and spiky armours.
>>98718908>>98714773>>98714791This fixes and completes all of the dwarf factions
>>98720860>Born to be sexy vampire knight>Forced to be half naked beer bellied giantRealms a shit.
>>98720860his feet are calloused scales and they can make shoes to boot
How is this book if I pretend the protag doesn't look like that?
>>98720889Is there amy rhyme or reason to the formatting here?
>>98720933Spare yourself the misery and just read some Anne Rice instead.
>>98720889p-please GW a tiny MTO... They deserve that much
>>98720943I can say with absolute certainty that that's even gayer.
>>98720583Same energy
>>98720961Better the tale of the pretty boy rockstar wanna be than that dogshit.
>>98720939I have no clue what the fuck was being smoked for this but I've tried to arrange it in slightly less of a clusterfuck way.
>>98720933Completely forgettable.
>>98720963Kek>>98720933It’s badAvoid it entirely
>>98721001>>98721036I guess sometimes you can judge a book by its cover.
>>98720939I first arranged the fyreslayers to give myself an eagle eye view of what the range would look like if the old infantry models were reboxed as one unit, if the caster heroes were another box, and the melee heroes wee another, instead of a dozen individual pity stuff, with placeholders for the stuff I would have wanted added to the rangethen I arranged the kharadron in a similar way to fyreslayers, vaguely trying to mirror the slayers, grouping heroes by type (flying heroes, "caster" heroes", support heroes)Then I arranged the helsmiths and new khazalites, in many ways these 2 ranges mirror each other, in others they don'tI similarly grouped the helsmiths' casters, and the khazalites' melee heroes (even though one is a special character and I have separated special characters otherwise, but lets be real, she's just a female version of the generic hero)then I added hypothetical units to the ranges so they've got roughly equivalent rosters, where these are added is irrelevant, they were last additionsso yes, there's a rhyme, but not a reason
>>98721098Also I didn't add it in the image, but I would specify that the underworld band for khazalites should be gazul themed dwarfs, just so that every ancestor god has a unit>grombrindal: rangers and character >inghilde: miners and geomancer caster >valaya: guards and gholems>gazul: band and gholems>thorgrim: war thrones>grimnir: has its own range + a build of the larger gholem maybe>grugnì: basically everything dwary is his anyway, plus the larger gholem>hashut: has its own range
>>98721130The cannons could be considered pretty grungni specific I think.
>>98720583Anons... It happened.
>>98721130>rangersImagine how badly they'll fuck up crossbows if they can't even do guns right
>>98721170To the victor go the spoils...
Come to think of it, I wonder how rangers could be translated to HoH. More hobgrots?
>>98721223Hobgrots with slings, or hobgrots with makeshift guns.
>>98721206the darkwater one already had one, I think it was just more of the same crap stormcasts had
>>98721241Eh I think it's interesting enough. I got the idea that it was kind of like a grappling hook kind of deal but I don't know if that's actually reflected in the darkwater rules
>>98721241The ranger looks pretty nice though? I thought he was generally one of the more liked models.
>>98720889>no bull centaur hero>no hobgoblin wolf riders>no sneaky gits>no hobgoblin bolt throwerMaybe leaning on the past too much and GW would never go for it, but expanding HoH would be so simple
>>98721390Not sure if I'd want a whole ass wave for hobgoblins, maybe a named character to buff em a bit but otherwise I'd rather stick to more mechanical shit
>>98721390I don't think an expansion of hobgrots in the vein of how they were done in fantasy would really fit their current characterisation. They're not really the overseer race they were in whfb anymore, they're essentially chorf gnoblars. The "free" hobgrots in the kruleboy army could be expanded this way, though that'e be extremely cruel (heh) to kruleboy players. Finally get new units and it's just more hobgrots.
>>98721441It's more fitting but Chorfs should get both, both the indebted chattel slaves and those serving for profit. Currently Chorfs have fluff for both but only the slaves have models and those are obviously drawn from the free people of the Hobgrots Barons or whatever
>>98721454Honestly making two separate hobgrot kits was kind of a mistake in the first place imo
>>98721269It is, there's no ranged attack but he has cards for the grapple and an ability to navigate all terrain types
>>98720933I read a little of the first and it's irrelevant, barely mentioned, but the story is aimed at teenage girls. It's unironically about a teenage vampire girl with vamp daddy issues navigating the vacuum of power left behind by his sudden death. She claims the throne but political intrigue ensues. Meanwhile a fanatical vampire hating Marshall takes command of the Freeguilds lead by a woman who respected the vampires (for no reason). I dropped it. Legitimately the worst BL book I've read and that's saying something.
>>98721481Nah, Chorfs should have Hobgrots slaves. The issue is they didn't get the free Hobgrots too. Hobgrots didn't read as slaves in WHF, but it makes sense Chorfs would enslave some of them. It'd be weird to have the one enslaved musician alone, but with the current unit it makes sense.
>>98720961It may be gayer, but it's also better written.If you just want some weird pulp Vampire stuff, just read Vampire Hunter D books, there all nice-looking schlock
>>98721557I might one day, the films were fun. I should rewatch Bloodlust actually, a real feast for the eyes.
Some of these changes really needed to be there since launch but it’s nice that they’ve finally did it. Anyways probably gonna pick up helsmiths since they don’t look completely gimped with those new formations, or cities.
>>98721588if you enjoy those two armies equally from an aesthetics and gameplay angle, i would probably pick cities. it has a much more fleshed out range so far. there's a lot more there to chew on as a collectioni love my helsmiths, but the whole army is like 4 units and a bunch of wizards. its a pretty shallow army right now as far as what you can collect or how you can build it.
>>98721588I mean... Cities is the clear winner between the two in that Cities just functions well.Helsmiths I haven't seen the new shit but they seem interesting. I think they need a wave 2 before I can make a determination.
>>98721487Odd because his actual aos warscroll just makes it a crossbow without any movement stuff at all
Age of Sigmar
>>98721700Trvth nvke
>>98721441Not saying the next release should be a hobgoblin wave, just pointing out some easy options beyond what the guy already had on the chart.I don't see it happening since GW likes to keep the conceptual scope of AoS armies extremely narrow. Your single hobgoblin hero is much more likely.
>>98721062Most times, even. Copers will deny this.
>>98721557VHD is surprisingly solid honestly. Way better than you’d expect. Not quite masterpieces but they more than get the job done.
>>98721620>>98721608I’m leaning on helsmiths because it seems like an army id actually finish painting before 4th ends. But cities does seem mechanically more interesting based off of what I’ve skimmed from wahapdia.
>>98721858As of recently I now have both (though helsmiths was much cheaper since I got that stupid big lot)I'd say Cities right now is GOOD, Helsmiths can be good but are nowhere near as flexible and strong as cities is. Cities literally just has better numbers and abilities, chorfs are unfortunately much more "balanced"
>>98717793So what's the deal with these codes on the boxes? They're supposed to be gacha, so if the codes are a good or perfect indicator of what's in the box, then what's the fucking point?
>>98721883Production stuff, I don't think GW is built for Gacha and thus the standard production shit will most likely come through.
>>98721895Maybe I'll go to the store on Friday. Are they only in Target or are they in other places? GW once again doing great marketing for anything that isn't a standard release.
>>98721905I literally have no idea, I just saw some reddit post saying "GOT MY X BOX HERE'S THE CODES" another guy today confirmed the codes and got the witch hunter (26138) They got it from target as well so it may just be target or if your FLGS decided to order some. (both of mine did not)
>went to my Target today>no Warhammer Heroes, not even the box>just some boxes of "Tacticus">mfwBut of course, the Pokemon section was picked clean.
>>98720889Remember MEEEEE
>>98721817Which one is the one with a vampire space station that was kino as fuck
>>98721979These can stay forgotten
>>98721979I have these guys, anything I could counts as with them?
>>98720933Since we're vampire book clubbing a bit; Empire of the Vampire by Jay Kristoff is a fun one.
>>98721858yeah it is much easier to paint than cities, i'll give it that
>>98722004hobgrots proxies
>>98721979I’m expecting the elite infantry to look something like that for smiths
>>98722109what elite infantry?
>>98721996Bloodlust. The book it was based off of is Demon Deathchase. Not sure if it had that though.
>>98722191Nta but more wlite infantry is a an easy slam dunk addition for chorfs. Lots of ways to do it too.On the other hand, fyreslayer droth cav or nighthaunt haunted suits of armour are also slam dunks, and look where we are...
>>98722196No, they only get to a Gothic Launch site that doesn't work anymore in the book.
>>98722272They'll get infernal guard hordes first I think
>>98722324Hmmmm thought so. Though the movie only has a space ship rather than a space station. Not sure which it was that had that.
>>98722405Wouldn't infernal guard be pretty eliteDefinitely see them making that a 5 man unit
I have no clue if the warcry bands being reinforced is ever gonna matter. Last I chekced Jade obelisks for example could already oneshot most terrain as far as I know.
>>98715197>NguyenDidn’t know viets liked Warhammer
how many kits in total did khaz holds get? Was it 12? Is there a chance of slayers actually getting something in the EOE?
>>9872312110, I think? 3 foot characters, 3 different infantry, gholems kit, artillery kit, boat kit, and then the fyreslayer-droth combo makes ten.Fyreslayers are reportedly getting a good amount of narrative focus (incl in the ptg campaign) but I wouldn't expect another kit no. We would've known by now.
>>98723159Do we know if the Magmic Invocations are staying?
>>98721979These guys are so enigmatic>Released after Slittaz, but Slittaz feature shapes similar to those seen on the final Helsmiths kits while Horns largely lack them>Name and visual concept of the Hashutaar helmets originates from them but the fluff was changed from a rite of passage to mind control devices for Helsmiths>Shares design motifs with that one Helsmiths mask art that was used for teasers and shows up in the final book despite not really visually fittingMakes me wonder if they were the first Helsmiths-adjacent models designed and got memoryholed because things changed. Of course, all chaos Warcry kits look pretty distinct from their parent factions, however.
i still havent managed to play a single match of aos or even spearhead but my skaven are nearing 3k points
>>98723612what's stopping you from playing? do you live in an area where not many people play AoS/your local game store doesn't really have people play warhammer there?it's really rare for me to get a game in given where i live so i play mostly through tabletop sim
>>98723666Not him, but for me it's just how many different games we've been juggling and how many players we have vs space to play. That and sometimes the other player wants to play something else.
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>>98723118>>98722324>>98721996>>98721817>>98721557>>98721587The most surprising thing to me about those books is just how fucking many of them there are and how long they’ve been going. I mean holy shit it’s kind of impressive.
>>98716689>>98716768It’s not an impossibility but that alone shouldn’t be a metric when it’s one of their best ideas in years
>For two moons, the writing had been on the wall. The Soot Raker tribe's previous patriarch went to bed one night as a man, and awoke a knotted mess of writhing eyeballs. The resulting war of succession between his scions was bloody, but short. >While the Gods demanded oaths of complete annihilation, the patriarch's recent demise had shown how unreliable their blessings could be. Meanwhile, the business of cousin-selling and tribute-taking kept bellies full far longer then cannibalistic rituals to appease the insatiable spirits. >So it was only inevitable when the ambitious and clever but materially disadvantaged younger brother would return to the bargaining table with his tail tucked once the plurality, and eventually majority, of the clan sided with his oafish elder sibling. In truth, in their youth they had shared many carefree hunts together and neither relished being driven to fratricide. This is the beginnings of my concept of a darkoath warband called the chosen cowards, whose standard is a bloodied white banner of surrender. The basic idea is that Khorne felt cheated because this tribe didn't drive themselves to extinction, so he filled the losing side with homicidal rage during their surrender negotiations so they go around waving a bloodied white flag
