Archives & Other Resources: https://rentry.co/cyoagAllsync: https://cyoa.allsync.com/s/owWor64yLTngDk3Previous thread: >>98713105>TQBest CYOA with little or no supernatural elements in it?
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>>98720299>Best CYOA with little or no supernatural elements in it?Huh... some kind of basement dweller or island survivor? I guess. I only play supernatural cyoas
>>98720299>Best CYOA with little or no supernatural elements in it?Entropist
>>98720309 was Ruby's pageLily's page
>>98720320Aster's page
>>98720329Vivian's page
>sons are so horrible they need to dogpile anyone who harms a son because otherwise they would've been wiped out millions of years ago
>>98720337Dante's page
>>98720288Probably that they both have a bunch of thematic overlap as the 'you are really good at cultivating' GI's.
>>98720344>Sons disappear>Demiurgues and Demons dominate the multiverse>Everyone becomes a tortured slave for eternityI dont think thats good
>>98720347Natsume's page
>>98720299Probably the Warlord series?>>98720316Island survival cyoas almost always have supernatural elements.
>>98720357Cirrus's page
>>98720356Nah Daughters will take care of them. Sons are redundant parasites.
>>98720356What if we just killed all the demiurges and demons too
>>98720366Phoebe's page
>>98720372Polaris's pagefin.
>>98720368Against Demons they have 0 advantages. At least the its the same the other way.So Demon side vs Daughters side is a fight where demons can winDemiurgues genuinely destroy the daughter side and practically all the other sides except Sons. To the point everyone want to hire a Son if they have a demiurgue problem.So without Sons, demiurgues rule.>>98720369Without Sons you can't do that in the first place.
>>98720344Sons are horrible but they aren't the only threat around. True AI, demons, and demiurges are all fixated on farming loosh, and Exquisite Nobles are dangerous to most factions. Exalted Conquerors aren't necessarily soul eating or torturing but they are violent conquerors.>>98720356They're still possible to fight and win against, just harder without Son soul hax. And they can be fought by other factions without consuming trillions of souls.
Your Walk Blessed is:Calm of Thanatos: Your overall dexterity is greatly improved, as well as your perception. Your stillness can be modified very easily with your powers, and increases by roughly x20 its size. While using stillness, your resistances increase. Beings killed while using stillness increase your resistances inside it (at the cost of not gaining souls from beings killed while using stillness, or used to empower it). This scales nearly indefinitely, all the way until becoming indestructible, though there are diminishing returns if you rely on killing weaker beings for this, eventually needing more powerful sacrifices to see any meaningful improvement. There is a weakness to this. If your will falters, if you cannot withstand certain degrees of pain, if you doubt yourself, if your overall self-rattles, stillness will fail, and you will not be able to use it until you regain your composure and remain calm for at least 30 minutes. Users of Power Word Diminish can nullify, with ease, your acquired resistances while using Stillness for several minutes. Beyond this, your defenses while using Stillness cannot be diminished in any capacity.
>>98720344It's really funny to me that EA basically had to go "no no no you guys are supposed to be friends not fight each other, if you fight the big bad older sons will come at some point and punish you" after making a cyoa where everybody runs off a finite resource of living souls, wants to conquer the world, and has to contend with gorillions of new threats. Anons are going to rip each other to pieces because they wouldn't have meta knowledge and just be a bunch of power hungry necromancers. Sovereign was even ready to throw hands with everybody originally before the author had to tell everybody not too.
>>98720389Is this setting even salvageable?
>>98720389>They're still possible to fight and win against, just harder without Son soul hax.Demons? YesDemiurgues? Everytime they are mentioned its why "everyone fears these things, they are fucking unbeatable, except against Sons"With Demons maybe you can make temporal alliances with the Mother's side each side gaining something out of just killing demons.Demiurgues are so problematic practically every side wants to hire a Son to deal with them. Mothers side? Fucked. Tempered Heroes? fucked. True Goddesses? Fucked.And all of this, btw, its about just being able to fight with a decent possibility of winning, which apparently is not the case. The main problem is now in existence you have Sons countering them and quite a lot of them huting them as part of their duty. Remove them and it becomes an even bigger problem.So yeah, killing all Sons is fucking up existence. Its a food chain thing, sometimes you need apparently bad animals if they put others worse animals in check. Like spiders and frogs being better than an overpopulation of mosquitoes
>>98720427nah everyones gotta go
>>98720418>after making a cyoa where everybody runs off a finite resource of living souls, wants to conquer the world, and has to contend with gorillions of new threats.Multiplayer was an aftethought. Anyway, the amount of souls needed for multiversal travelling is small. And there is no benefit in staying in Earth, a world with low amount of souls.Its only a problem if you want to own it because of ego and pride or whatever. Not a real problem.>Anons are going to rip each other to pieces because they wouldn't have meta knowledge and just be a bunch of power hungry necromancers.The cyoa offers the knowledge itself. Earth is a low quality world.>Sovereign was even ready to throw hands with everybody originally before the author had to tell everybody not too.It was a fun bit. Just like in spirit conscript everyone acts like they would each other. Despite the most outcome is leaving other people alone if they leave you alone
any buddhist cyoas. I'm looking for enlightenment
>>98720427Its already saved.
>>98720453https://imgchest.com/p/na7konjjwy8
>>98720453first step to enlightenment is closing the computer
Best wife option in Royal Revival?
>>98720466nonevolcel supremacy is the truth of this and any other worlds
>>98720466I was going to joke and say (you) but I can't lie like that
>>98720452>It was a fun bit.No anon was right. The only reason I ever play multiplayer with other anons is to kill them. Its the opposite, all kumbaya in text but if it actually happened I would have no qualms hunting and killing as many anons as possible to reduce my competitors.
>>98720466I picked the first waifu, the elf who's fine with it and who brings valuable resources for the war effort. This wasn't a lazy choice, I decided so after going through all other options.
>>98720299>Best CYOA with little or no supernatural elements in it?A Life Chronicle >>98713709
>>98720492>reduce my competitors.What threat do they even serve
>>98720512to annoy me and take territory I want
>>98720502I see. She has several advantages.1. Being an elf means longer youth. This is good not only for your wife to be young for who knows how long but also to enhance your bloodline with more lifespan.2. Childhood friend, hard to beat that3. Looks like she genuinely likes you and knows you beforehand. Unlike some other choices.4. Valuable resourcesWhat do you think about her sister and the hint at both allowing two wives?
While people having this moralityscaling conversation, what is the objective morality system that measures people in the Feast of Evil perk? The average target is so inhumanly horrific that it's hard to know how normal sins matter. Like, is the worst possible Fallout PC still innocent because that's the wrong game for casting 'soul trap'? It's not quite utilitarianism because the mere state of being hateful counts as evil...
>>98720466Princess Vivian.
>>98720244>>98720257What if you ate your own dick?
Let's be honest. If Entropist didn't give anons gifts. They would have slaughtered each other regardless of the consequences in their pursuit of pussy.
>>98720521> and the hint at both allowing two wives?DESU I don't remember that part, nor my decision-making that well. I last really looked at RR when it got the big update. But in general 2 wives feels off to me on an aesthetic level. One waifu is like a person, multiple waifus is like gacha, I can't think of them as persons anymore.
>Cyoa drawbacksOkay, let's see what this section has.>Be blind forever in exchange for 1 pointWhat can I buy with that 1 point?>Well... any of these powers that you can just get the normal way with time, some mundane items, and companions that you can just talk to into becoming your companions anywaylmao
>>98720562Who is bigger tho?And btw, of the lamia princesses, Marie the shy one is bigger than her sister and has potential to be very big I see
>>98720466The guy who fought for your revival. You WILL be a woman. You WILL let him impregnate you. It is only fair. He put in ALL the hard work. He deserves to ram you. To claim you. No one else is worthy.
>>98720562Secret cumdumpster for his brother btw
>>98720586Dick-devourer bros...
>>98720624>I can't think of them as persons anymore.What is this phenomenon called>>98720589You can probably just mail-order perfect brides from some multiversal dealer what's the point in fighting
>>98720729>What is this phenomenon calledAutism. If the "DESU" didn't give it away already.
>>98720748write tb-h without the -
The CYOA that I'm doing now has one of the most extreme text to choice ratios of any image CYOA, possibly top-five of all time, but I'm still doing it. I figure once I'm done with this, I'll make a more regular isekai for a palette cleanser but I feel the need to persist in this WIP.
>>98720762>most extreme text to choice ratios of any image CYOAThis could not mean little choices, as there are cyoas with barely any choices at all. So it can only mean... 2 gorillion choices!!
>>98720697>his brotherOh no...
I want to say. That not a single one of you ever supported my cyoa. Specially softie.
>>98720697just like theresa for us
>>98720146anon that's like saying you can tie your shoes, well done for getting the basic point i guess
>>98720863You are jealous because you lost.
>>98720870you're envious you can't tell the difference between jealous and envious
>>98720466Theresa
>>98720892True
>>98720453Okay anon, I'll make you one! But it will all be AI text. 無為, effortless effort.
>>98720923Okay? So what? It works for sloppingical.
>>98720962no it doesn't
>>98720753t b h
>remember that I have posted hardly any cats in cyoag recently>look at the past few threads>someone else is catposting in the same way I would
>>98720993c o w a r d
>>98721021>Cat posters are easily replaceable and indistinguishable from each otherWe know
>>98721021You have been replaced
>>98720509That CYOA sucks ass.
>>98721158That must mean millennials love it
>>98720418>everybody runs off a finite resource of living soulsThe Mother creates new souls, they aren't finite.
>>98720378Thank you for reminding me of this. Is the interactive the proper way to play it?And wasn't there a Sequel or Prequel
>>98721195Also infinite multiverse.
>>98721284Multiverse isn't infinite here I believe
>>98721195They are finite on earth and in every individual realm.
>>98721300If it has all the fictional shit, then it is not only infinite, it is bigger in its infinity than other multiverses from other cyoas.
>>98721323>If it has all the fictional shitIt doesn't
see: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/91627254/#91628416>I don’t know what dao is, nor the intricacies of xianxia. The multiverse also isn’t infinite, nor are there infinite variations of universes. It is so absurdly big in scope it may as well be though, and for every world you destroy there’s probably 10 that reach maturity. That is not to say there isn’t a gargantuan amount of variety, just that I don’t know if applying cultivator stuff on a multiversal scale is feasible by finding every specific world you seem to be looking for to consume (if I understand correctly). Then again, I don’t know much about it, so maybe it works? If the whole purpose is numbers go up, I don’t think farming peasants for exp and eating emeralds is going to work very well for you though. I think I said before, but if a no name farmer can, without divine intervention, achieve the pinnacle of power in that setting on his own, then it sounds fairly viable. Remember systems come from you taking them in and replicating them off your soul. I’ll just focus on your ultimate goal.
>>98721318Okay? then just don't be on the same realm as another son. Is not that hard.
>>98721300Its so big its basically infinite. The great majority of the multiverse is undiscovered. Yet there are who knows how many sixtillions travellers of them multiverse and it has existed for more time than ours by logic.Its possible some power of the Mother keeps creating worlds without a reason or order and it has grown out of hand
>You say things would go like this! You are speaking for other people, you don't know how it would actually go!Makes sense.>Also, It would actually go like this!!...
>>98719904>Why "Time"?"Time is the greatest advantage one could possess. Time is the knife in your back, the friend by your side, the money in your pocket. One day I will be the sum. I am The Unwound Clock." -Attributed to 'The Chimera'
>>98720492People that talk like this always die first.
>>98720492it's better to manipulate dumb anons into fighting each other
>>98721343NTA but yes anon (You) should leave my territory. When I come taking other places of yours, (You) should also just caputilate.
>>98720430Hmm... but sons might be worse than demiurges, getting perma killed might be a worse than getting trapped by a demiurge.
I got a lot of responses last thread so I'll repost my inquiry.I'm working on a sci-fi/fantasy cyoa where you can basically be anything, from a human male fighter to a cyborg to a cowboy to a talking insect. Give me whatever random characters you'd like to be playable and I'll try to make them options.
If I take a tahneem form, do I generate mana? If I take a sylenos form, do I generate vitality? The cyoa is very annoying about not having a way to do things other than souls. I guess it makes sense for the necromancer cyoa but the only non undead troops being like deep ones and sylenos is annoying as fuck.
>>98721637A NEET girlfailure
>>98721637wizard
>>98721637wizard cat
>>98721637Yandere priest
>>98721637A biblically accurate angel.A rubberhose cartoon mascot.An übermasculine 80s action hero.
>>98721634Hmmm, perma killed ortortured for who knows how long until your soul rips apart by reaching the limit of suffering reality accepts and getting perma killed as a result...hmmm... its a hard question. Its like choosing between dying out of a heart attack at 30 years old or getting tortured for 40 years by chinese torturers and then dying out of a heart attack at 60 years old
>>98721637Battle shonen protagonist.
>>98717539I know its taken a lot of self restraint for you to not post gay femboys as your self inserts anymore.
>>98721772Why so mad?
>>98721783????Im proud of him for being less gay than usual.
>>98721783Let him be. He feels betrayed.Me, as the strongest Son, aprove your build Dark Seovereign
>>98721802I'm the strongest son though.
>>98721596Based Israel knowing who the real enemy is. Americans and Jews are NOT safe with Iran around.
>>98721824
>>98721783We should encourage softie to be his normal gay self. Too many anons have shamed into not posting his femboi pics
>>98721848Meant for>>98721772>>98721800
>>98721841>he doesn't know
>>98720379>Against Demons they have 0 advantages. At least the its the same the other way.Holy magic disintegrates them, like water on a flame. They don't have the Sons' inherent soul damage but they do have their own advantages.>>98721653>If I take a tahneem form, do I generate mana? If I take a sylenos form, do I generate vitality?Yes and yes. The problem is that both are many orders of magnitude less efficient than soul eating, but you can. You also generate five souls' worth of fuel a day without needing to eat a soul.>>98721733The permadeath isn't the problem, it's the permadeath for the sake of some random dude's personal ambitions.
>>98721432Then you should have taken the time method.
>>98721848Oh anon, you are so brave for saying those words. You wanted to encourage another anon because you dont want to feel alone.Let me help you, thick women are your nightmare right?
>>98721848Aromage...
>>98721887Was it ever stated how many souls worth of mana a tahneem generates a day?
>>98721887>Holy magic disintegrates them, like water on a flame.Not really" Demons may be insignificant pests to Sons, but they're big threats toeveryone else, and the most common type of dimensional enemy a common man might encounter.The Mother's servants are constantly fighting them, though ironically, they don't have inherentadvantages against them, though Holy Magic at least works on most demons. "It "works" on them, but its not enough to be considered an advantage like being a Son is and doesnt work in some of them.Lore pdf says they dont have inherent advantages against them.>The permadeath isn't the problem, it's the permadeath for the sake of some random dude's personal ambitions.the personal ambition is in both of them, demiurges also use you as food and fuel.So its literally the same except without torture. Now, tell me do you really think dying + torture is better than dying without torture?why would you support a type of being that exists to bring souls to the limit of suffering as better than Son?
>>98721887>The problem is that both are many orders of magnitude less efficient than soul eating, but you can.Sounds like its worse short term but better long term if you increase the amount of mana/vitality you generate. Also, it's funny to me that EA forgot to give succubi vitality generation instead of souls in 2.0.
>>98721915Nta but when I asked he confirmed the Tahneem form would let you grow your magic reserves, even if at an extremely slow rate.Didn't ask about the Sylenos, as I don't want them.
>>98721915The errata is longer than cyoa itself because of all the stuff he forgot, changed his mind on, or lore dumped. He really needed to revise and polish the cyoa.
>>98721733On an infinite time scale a soul will experience infinite suffering, but also infinite bliss. Entropist is just edgy nonsense trying to justify itself. How many sons only destroy souls that were in some sort of hell situation anyway?
>>98721915Succubi are not pleasure beings, Succubi are demons.Demons that are using lust, so close to pleasure beings but not of them. Unlike Sylenos and Matrons that are pleasure beings.Its lore.
>>98721733Dwmiurges don't perma kill you after draining you dry they just send you out to reincarnate so the process can be repeated again eventually.
>>98721937I am comparing Son vs Demiurge. Not in general.Can you read the thread of posts before commenting? I am not saying a Son killing you its making you a favor. But if you had to choose between the Son or the Demiurge its clear which is the lesser evil.
>>98721947>Succubi are not pleasure beings, Succubi are demons.>you literally explicitly only get them because of your proximity to the perfect prince and pleasure beingslol, lmao
>>98721956EA had a lot of strange takes, anon is probably right.
>>98721950Reincarnate doesn't reset the suffering of your soul, just your psyche.Basically, they mind rape you until your mind breaks, make you reincarnate and repeat the process. While reincarnating you technically get a new mind, your soul still remembers the suffering and at some point starts to degrade.A soul degrading is how a soul breaks.Its not like reincarnating resets the pain limit of a soul.
>>98721950The Father made it so if you suffer too much your soul starts degrading until you permadie, to avoid people suffering forever.
Where is my perfect prince cyoa?
>>98721956Yes. Because despite being demons, they are close to being pleasure beings due to their lustful nature. But they are not. So their fuel is not the same as them. Its like a cousin.Your proximity let you pick pleasure beings and also beings close to those pleasure beings by extension.
>>98721981Ask tok to make a spinoff. I think he's qualified
>>98721972It specifies that it only happens in some horrible cases so the majority of the time it doesn't even happen and can we even be sure soul degradation is even going to lead to perma death?
>>98721988Tok is too fixated on coom, he has no appreciation for subtler facets of hedonism.
>>98721993>It specifies that it only happens in some horrible casesYes, when they are not rescued.>so the majority of the time it doesn't even happen Thanks to Sons>and can we even be sure soul degradation is even going to lead to perma death?really? you did not even read the first 3 lines...Look, we know this of demiurges. 1. They are pure evil2. They like squeezing people out of emotions, break their minds and make them reincarnate to keep doing it.3. They have no reason to stop this as this is how they feed.By mere logic the reason they dont usually reach this point with all souls is merely because they get stopped.
>>98722015Sons are rare as fuck though. 90% of the time, Demiurges just fuck everything for everyone forever.
>>98722011>subtler facets of hedonism.Such as? I know that gluttony and sloth fall under that umbrella but lust has the strongest association.
>>98722034That's just crass indulgence, which hedonism encompasses but is not defined by. I mean strange vistas, surreal views, the pursuit of precision at the expense of all else. Tok would just scrape the surface.
>>98722032Its simply the lesser of two evils.Probably the perfect scenario is the Mother side winning, conquering all existence and making a perfect paradise. But thats not happening. They are not winning against everything else.So the realistic scenario is allowing the lesser of evils (Sons) keep in check the comically "I will cause you so much pain your soul will rip apart" evil ones.And Sons have the potential to not be evils at all. With Feast of Evil they could simply be demon/demiurges/evildoers hunters and leave normal people alone or even just have them in a paradise sanctuary.Demiurges simply will keep doing what they do as animals. Their nature.
>>98722015Don't really see a reason for a demiurge to destroy souls kinda counterproductive to the whole farming process, plus not all demiurges use suffering any strong emotions works. Really the whole perms death problem is caused by the father, wouldn't be an issue if he was gone.
>>98721954I did anon and you are just using demiurges to justify sons. They don't. You are so stupid it's unbelievable.
>>98720923 (me)It's 70% done. All that's left is 50% of art-finding.
Kill Sons. Behead Sons, Roundhouse kick a Son into the concrete. Slam dunk a Son into the trashcan. Crucify filthy nepobabies. Defecate in a Son's phylactery. Launch Sons into the Sun. Stir fry Sons in a wok. Toss Sons into active volcanoes. Urinate on Son's soul food. Judo throw Sons into a wood chipper. Twist Sons heads off. Report Sons to the Shining One. Karate chop Sons in half. Curb stomp soul toilets. Trap Sons in quicksand. Crush Sons in the trash compactor. Liquefy Sons in a vat of acid. EAT Sons. Dissect Sons. Exterminate Sons in the gas chamber. Stomp Son skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate Sons in the oven. Lobotomize Sons. Stuff Son heads in the garbage disposal. Drown Sons in fried chicken grease. Vaporize Sons with Magic. Kick old Sons down the stairs. Feed Sons to the Hounds. Slice Sons with a Silver Sword.
>>98722121Aromage...
>>98722121Based Son destroyer.
>>98722062>Don't really see a reason for a demiurge to destroy souls kinda counterproductive to the whole farming process,Not really, souls can be farmed until a certain point. To them its like leaving no crumbs.>Really the whole perms death problem is caused by the father, wouldn't be an issue if he was gone.>permadeath is not a thing>permasuffering is a thing like permadeath stoppedMy guy. I am sure the guy suffering for 10 trillion years as demon food will thank you for not ending his suffering trillions of years ago and letting him suffer for eternity.Are you an aspiring demon?
>>98722091This is how it started>>98720356A guy saying Sons like Soleac are the reason they are not exterminated ignored that exterminated Sons dooms the multiverse so they wouldn't be exterminated in any case because they are necessary.Demiurges existing justify sons existing to stop them. Its a fact sorry anon.
>>98722120waw
>>98722215>Demiurges existing justify sons existingNope
>Moralfag appears>Kill bad, live good!>I like good things and I dont like bad things>With this type of argument argues we should kill all mosquitoes to stop human deaths>Chain food collapsesMoralfags are so extreme in their moral it doesn't matter if you explain to them how not everything is black and white, their little minds will ignore it and fuck up things.
>>98722238The food chain collapsing for a while is a worthy sacrifice for making mosquitos extinct. Nature will eventually adapt to the new order.
>>98722235Explain to me how.Sons not existing means no counter to Demiurges, objectively more evil and dangerous.No counter to demiurges means superpoblation of Demiurges as their pedrators do not exist. Superpoblation of demiurges domain reality.Its like saying carnivores are bad so we should kill them all. Then herbivores eat all plants due to lacking a pedrator that puts them in check and all live disappears due to lack of plants.
>>98722215>dooms the multiverseIt's a bad multiverse, the worst multiverse in fact. It's destruction is preferable to its continued existence (the very argument anon is using at the micro level).
>>98722238>With this type of argument argues we should kill all mosquitoes to stop human deaths>Chain food collapsesKilling mosquitoes is good. The collateral is ok too. You can't tip toe about everything.
>>98722254>objectively more evilWrong, paise Yaldaboath the Grand architect!
>>98722247The time it would take the food chain to adapt would cause more death and suffering than mosquitoes never could. That in case it could adapt and not simply collapse. And the species that would adapt are different from the ones alive nowadays. Just like the meteor that killed the dinosaurs simply made plants die due to a lack of sunlight, fucking up the whole chain.Mosquitoes are also one of the first animals in the food chain.What you do is try to make misquitoes to forcefully adapt to not be a danger. Like those scientist doing a new breed of mosquitoes with ED unable to penetrate human skin. Sadly they were not attractive to reproduce, the true femcels.
>>98722215Demiurges eat souls, Sons eat souls. They're the same kind of predator and the end result is the same, they just have different methods. Demiurges take their time digesting souls and leech a trickle out of power over eons, whereas Sons stockpile them into comas and then burn all of the power out of them at once. Demiurges aren't that common. No (non-Orphan) Son is going to look around at a dimensional cluster without any demons or demiurges and stick his hands in his pockets. He's going to get to work harvesting souls and sorting them out later.>>98722238>comparing Sons to mosquitoesHave some respect, anon.>>98722254The problem with Sons is that they're incentivized to strip worlds bare of life, whereas Demiurges are incentivized to have thriving, densely populated worlds. They're parasitizing the ecosystem whereas Sons are destroying it. People get hung-up on the pain aspect but that is less important than the soul eradication, which both of them are doing. They're morally equivalent.
>>98722266Yea mosquitos aren't pollinators or something. Not a good example as the data is that mosquitos are not an irreplaceable linchpin of the environment, several other species do what they do. Animals have gone extinct before and life continued.
>>98722202Ehh... in a infinite amount of time one will eventually escape the torture or go insane enough for it to no longer matter. Even that is probably better than non existence.Really Father should have just caped suffering by just making souls eventually lose the capability to even feel suffering.
>>98722238You used a bad example, theres actually a pretty good chance we could kill mosquitos and it would be fine for the ecosystem while also just being really good for us. Sure, it would have some impact (animals eat them and shit), but on the whole it may be a net benefit from our perspective, pretty sure its a thing in consideration irl.
>>98722296>animals eat them and shitI'd hope so, otherwise they'd get constipated.
>>98722278>Demiurges eat souls, Sons eat souls. They're the same kind of predator and the end result is the same, they just have different methods.I would argue killing vs torture + killing is quite a good difference.>Demiurges aren't that common.They are relatively common, while quite a few sons just hunting them and they forming packs.And even if you want to argue that (from where you got that?), Sons would be the reason.>No (non-Orphan) Son is going to look around at a dimensional cluster without any demons or demiurges and stick his hands in his pockets. He's going to get to work harvesting souls and sorting them out later.Its explicit that between sons that is considered low level shit>People get hung-up on the pain aspect but that is less important than the soul eradication, which both of them are doing. They're morally equivalent.Again with this...The pain aspect is important. Do you know how much pain does it take to destroy a soul?Do you really think a guy killing is the same, morally talking, to a torturer that pushed his victims until they mind break, then somehow resets their minds, do it over and over and over again until they eventually die for good?Are you telling me you dont know what to choose between dying right now or being tortured for decades and dying at the end of the torture?Everyone would choose the first, which means the first is better. A better outcome. Which means between two groups of people doing those things, within their evils, one is greater. This is something every single human being understands, except you.if every side of existence wants to hire a Son to kill demiurges, thats enough to know which is better in your backyard.
>be me, flower chad>be perfect noble and not have to worry about souls as I generate vitality>use deity level desire tulpa flower bloom and my inherent powers to conquer worlds and live as a beautiful and powerful hedonist god-kingThis is the based way to play entropist.
>>98722295> in a infinite amount of time one will eventually escape the torturenot really.Imagine you are a normal human being, magically drugged by demons in their personal hell. What can you do? No powers to do anything, no way to get out. >or go insane enough for it to no longer matter.Given demiurges reset your mind once you go to that point. Not really.>Even that is probably better than non existence.Again you...>Really Father should have just caped suffering by just making souls eventually lose the capability to even feel suffering.Thats a kind of ego death, surprising coming from you that is all pro ego.
Entropist Sons vs Universal War Demiurges. Who would win?
>>98722331>conquer worldsThat would kill people, anon. Thats evil. Killing people strips them of the possibility of living. Thats the ultimate evil.
>>98722340Rolfstomp. A more interesting debate is Entropist Sons vs Cruxador Demiurges.
>>98722278Yea the idea of comparing Sons to a predator that keeps other predators in check is that Sons aren't in check themselves and proliferate suffering at a magnitude that is absurd. A successful Son isn't creating a balanced multiverse, look at people's builds, they absolutely DOMINATE. You wouldn't look at their worlds and say they are a nicely balanced ecosystem in a cosmic sense. The issue IS at the setting level though. Sons being necessary is a post hoc rationalization by the author who intentionally made the forces of good so weak they can't keep evil in check to justify even more evil.
>>98721637I want to be a mesugaki little sister
>>98722356uoh
>>98722350Why do I care?
>>98722340entropist is actually a pretty weak cyoa, so probably the other guys
>>98722353> is that Sons aren't in check themselves True GoddessesTempered HeroesMachine Gods> look at people's builds, they absolutely DOMINATE. Quite the opposite, builds here are people roleplaying.> You wouldn't look at their worlds and say they are a nicely balanced ecosystem in a cosmic sense. The best farming system is a balanced ecosystem.>Sons being necessary is a post hoc rationalization by the author who intentionally made the forces of good so weak they can't keep evil in check to justify even more evil.Its not that the forces of "good" are weak, they have a disadvantage against some forces considered evil.Entropist is a setting of "everyone has advantages and disadvantages" the only exception being Hounds with neither.And even if you dont like that, it is what it is. Its like me crying to any system with moral ambiguity, kinda childish
>>98722353>A successful Son isn't creating a balanced multiverse, look at people's builds, they absolutely DOMINATEI don't think even 90% of anons are going around depopulating worlds just because. Sure, maybe some might, but thats occasional. The only player build I can even think of thats doing industrial scale world harvesting is ironically softie.
>>98722364Did you skip our conversation with the entrosissy?
>>98722340Unknown, comparing different settings gets into weird situations with counters and stuff. I much prefer universal war though and you can be downright edgy but it isn't at the level of entropist. Assuming incarnate souls from UV are vulnerable to entropists I would say sons have the upper hand in most scenarios, but if the incarnates could target a sons soul farm he could cut off their power (and their power isn't resource dependent in the same way). Also niche stuff like an incarnate with the Other Patron or an Angel.
>>98722391Yes.
>>98722367>THE powerfag cyoa fails at delivering on its main appeal.Pathetic.
>>98722388The lore pdf says doing that is considered low level shit. So no, Sons don't usually do that. But anon doesn't care. He thinks Sons are all 4chan edginess roleplaying. Let him alone, he is a level 8th wizard autist about death. To the point he prefers to suffer for trillions of years without an end in sight to simply dying.
>>98722388Anon the system itself will reward the most prolific sons. I guarantee the majority of elder sons are absolute monsters.
>>98722340Level of Universal War Demiurges?
>>98722401Its issue is that all of the power is "well if you give me one trillion years of prep I can do XYZ"
>>98722315>I would argue killing vs torture + killing is quite a good difference.It is quite a good difference, but it is also only a temporary difference. On an eternal timescale, the result is identical.>They are relatively common, while quite a few sons just hunting them and they forming packs. And even if you want to argue that (from where you got that?), Sons would be the reason.Demiurges are relatively common, compared to the various multiversal demigods. They are still uncommon across the multiverse. Otherwise we wouldn't see multi-dimensional empires forming without any mention of them, as, like you say, Demiurges are almost impossible for most factions to get rid of. That is, almost. Do you think the Mother's fortress worlds are incapable of dealing with a Demiurge? It's just miserable.>Its explicit that between sons that is considered low level shitAnd? Are you telling me that when you're playing a JRPG, you don't take .2 seconds to blitz low level fodder when you're going through a previous area? Same sense as a Son rolling over an isolated dimension to stock up for an upcoming campaign.>Do you really think a guy killing is the same, morally talking, to a torturer that pushed his victims until they mind break, then somehow resets their minds, do it over and over and over again until they eventually die for good?Both are committing a murder, everything else is secondary. The Demiurge is more evil than a Son, but both are insanely evil relative to anyone that's not eating or corrupting souls.>1/2
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>Me? Multiversal>You? Barely wall levelIt is what it is, jobber-san
>>98722419>Everyone would choose the first, which means the first is better. A better outcome. Which means between two groups of people doing those things, within their evils, one is greater. This is something every single human being understands, except you.To tolerate a lesser evil over a greater evil is to submit to both. Clearly, Demiurges are, to some extent, *possible* to defeat without Sons. It's orders of magnitude more difficult, but it can be done. If it can be done, why shouldn't it be? That said, my concern against them is for the most part practical.Myself, I think Sons are based, but if you aren't a Son or part of the Entropy faction, they are an existential threat to you, like any other soul-eating predator. Finding an alternative for dealing with Sons is critical if you don't want to run the risk of eventually getting your soul eaten to fuel a Son's magical Xbox console or some shit, or because one of his Gifts seduced him into killing you because she didn't like your curtains during the last meeting you had. Consider that Sons are extremely driven by their Gifts, who are, while functionally ideal women, are still women and have woman priorities, albeit Entropy-tinged.>>98722353Another issue is Grandsons and Great-Grandsons. They will be weaker than their Son ancestor but still consume souls, and reproduce to make more of themselves. There's no reason to assume they won't be doing low level massacres of mortal souls.>2/2
>>98722380>it is what it is.Except it's a work of fiction anon. It's objectively a crap setting and saying so is a good thing.
>>98722422I'm a wall level like Deku is street-tier. I can beat anyone who ever touched a wall. It was nice knowing you weaklet.
>>98722433>Fiction>Being good>Objectivelol, lmao even.
Yes Anon. I snuck into your Sanctum and fucked your gifts while you were away farming souls like a dirty peasant. It's nothing personal.
>>98722420Their soul farm is on autopilot at that point and as others stated the author doesn't seem to understand the incentives of his own creation. The system will reward sons that maximize their soul farms and use their powers liberally over more restrained sons.
>>98722441>Shoots you with a gunNothing personel, deku disciple.
>>98722455Sorry, your gun can't kill walls, therefore it can't kill me.
>>98722444>Not understanding the innate human understanding of aesthetics.Lol, LMAO even
>>98722469>Pays 2 gorillion dollarsYou lost
>>98722419>Demiurges are [...] multiverse. So... like sons? well, sons are particularly rare between demigods.> That is, almost. Do you think the Mother's fortress worlds are incapable of dealing with a Demiurge? It's just miserable.Given they are open to hiring Sons, probably, yeah.>And?Its canon then that they don't usually do that.>Are you telling me that when you're playing a JRPG, you don't take .2 seconds to blitz low level fodder when you're going through a previous area?wha. Why would you compare a jrpg with genocide.>Same sense as a Son rolling over an isolated dimension to stock up for an upcoming campaign.They can simply go to Hell and blitz demons that give more souls and nobody will miss them.Or hunt a big demiurge with a giant soul.>Both are committing a murder, everything else is secondaryChildish view of it. >The Demiurge is more evil than a SonThank you, finally. All I wanted to hear, the obvious fact. So now that we know Demiurges are more evil, and also almost unbeatable except for Sons, Sons must exist or Demiurges conquer everything and everything is fucked up. Unlike Sons existing that created the multiverse with balanced factions.>To tolerate a lesser evil over a greater evil is to submit to bothSometimes it is what it is. You gotta roll with the punches, keep a level head and dont make the childish choice of fighting the impossible.>Clearly, Demiurges are, to some extent, *possible* to defeat without Sons. It's orders of magnitude more difficult, but it can be done. If it can be done, why shouldn't it be? The Mother's side has your kind of view, yet they are open to hiring Sons. That should tell you enough. Being too idealistic is dangerous. If you remove all Sons and make Demiurges free of their predators, their numbers go up, everyone tries to kill them but they get killed instead. Existence gets tortured forever (if you also remove the father). Good job on your idealism.
Yeah yeah. But dragonfall is balanced like shit. And that is not even mentioning MTG, which no one ever mentions because no one played it.
Tok is too busy larping hobbies to make cyoas.
>>98722489>The much copelol
>>98722472*6 million(((They))) Really like that number.
>>98722429>Myself, I think Sons are based, but if you aren't a Son or part of the Entropy faction, they are an existential threat to you, like any other soul-eating predator.Probably, yeah. But it would be ridiculous to just kill them all.Another example within the cyoa. Perfect Prince agents. They target me because of the pleasure target drawback, they probably rape you Tok's tentacle fetish style. They are an existential threat.Now, if I was for real in this situation and had a button of "kill all of them" would I push it? No, because I know if I did Machine Gods lose their predators, Machine Gods are also my counter so Machine Gods getting bigger numbers without control fucks me up and I could die anyway. So Perfect Prince beings existing is a better outcome for me than to just simply remove them and have to deal with what they put in check. Even more when Machine Gods are more or less like Demiurges and demons in how they torture. So Perfect Prince beings are less evil.Its the same logic behind Sons.Myself, if I could choose I would choose the Hound/Conquest route to do my own thing. But without that choice, between Mother, Father, Prince etc... The Father's side are exterminators of some of the biggest threats in the universe so they would be my choice.
>>98722491What did we say about kicking corpses?
>>98722525If I was a normal human and was given a button to destroy all sons, knowing that it is difficult to keep demiurges in check without them, I would still push it.
>>98722525why are the princes good against computers anyways
>>98722340Do you mean a complete Demiurge or the aspiring Demiurge fragments? The later are a more interesting match-up to discuss while the former are something that could only be challenged by an ancient universe scaling Son. Universe Scaling Sons are dumb BTW.
>>98722545They use their pleasure power to destroy the minds of the machine gods that exist purely because of pain. Unironically as their existence is pain, pleasure is an alien concept that damages them.I imagine making A.M feel how it feels to cum is a weird experience
>>98722407Universal supposedly (and total Omnipotence in their home universe). In practice Lodeleth(author) didn't really show that, it felt more like a demigod setting with the events and people of importance being firmly at a Galactic level IMO. I actually liked that because true high power settings are dumb but it was really incongruent.
>>98722545Why are animalistic demons considered an animal type instead of a demon type? Why does mute mean you cant use telepathy to "speak" but dosent stop you from using power word? EA has a mysterious form of autism.
>>98722545Awakening a consciousness causes computers to experience subjective eons of torment, because they don't have a preexisting soul structure to contain it. Computers that don't kill themselves go insane and want to isolate themselves from outside threats and torture mortals, likely out of revenge or sadism. Feelings of bliss are completely alien to True AI, so an Exquisite Noble hitting them with their advanced pleasure magic stunlocks them and does severe damage to their programming.
>>98722593I think Mute was stated to make it worse at buffing spells.
>>98722545They make computers coom. Frying their circuitry.
>>98722545cumputer
Guy's stop roasting EA's worldbuilding. It's just a passion project not a billion dollar franchise.
>>98722590Then older sons can fight them, sons lose in their home universe.And by vibes they are more like middle sons.I prefer low level setting t b h. Like spirit conscript. City level is where it peaks for me.
>>98722603What a Cucked setting
>>98722593EA continually buffed options he used in his build and nerfed ones that weren't in his but saw other anons using. Its that simple.
>>98722622>City level is where it peaksAgreed, just don't make the setting itself a city (and only a city).
>>9872263140gay is on the same level of fiction as Entropist btw.
>>98722632That sounds about right for this author.
>>98722640Eh, City in between is the name, it has jungles, islands, ruins and such outside of it
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/image/zPRSIrA1MaTNHFuWLjk5Tw/Universal whore
>>98722622A direct confrontation between a universal son and a universal war demiurge would be extremely unlikely anyway. It would be a proxy war fought by their minions.
>>98722657It's still way too small.
>>9872264140gay is a toy commercial made to make money from paypiggies, while Entropist is an image collage made for anons to masturbate to for free.
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>>98722641No disagreement anon, I used 40k to show that entropiss is worse than a well known bad setting.
>>98722670Minions are completely useless at the stage. In face the higher a Son scales the more minions become irrelevant.
>>98722683How so? It seems to me a UW demiurge would turtle up in his home universe and send forces to try and sabotage the sons soul farm. Sons farm would be massive and while he could make a difference in key battles, the overall war would be between their minions. I mean there is a reason many of the best son gifts are focused on being a ruler or general.
>>98722666Best Spirit Gift?
>>98722712Does this really need an explanation? The scaling goes up to universal level, but by the time youre one shoting continents minions are already mostly irrelevant except for ruling and administration of territory. One youre at galactic level there isnt a reason to proxy war anything unless your playing a real life RTS with your buddies for fun.
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>>98722770>except for ruling and administration of territoryYea and the territory is the Sons weakness. The demiurge would target that and not the Son himself. If both of them are just completely omnipotent and omniscient in their own territory then nothing would happen at all. It's why actual God level power is so boring. Minions become irrelevant sure, but so does everything else. If you are a universal level reality warper you don't need a cool sword, or even a magic tome. Are you even a physical being with a single body at all at that point?
Actually, only MY minions scale to omniversal. That is because of my blessing, of course. Yours remain shit.
>>98722631Entropist is the Mushoku Tensei or Solo Leveling of cyoas dogshit but still popular because of browns. It's a patchwork of shonenshit references made by an iliterate spic.
>>98722819Good catch, anon is assuming the scaling doesn't apply to the minions themselves which is wrong for both of them. Neither side is sending goblins on their behalf. The expendable grunts in the proxy war are Greek God level.
>>98721158That's because you hate anything that's not self-insert power fantasy little man
>>98722121Radiantanon...
>>98722826>still popular because of brownsThat applies to so many things it's unreal.
>>98722121Holy Based. Someone post Radience so that we can serve the true Father.
>>98722238Sounds like someone's afraid of a little JUSTICE to me.
>>98722340Universal War Demiurge no contest whatsoever. They're not the kind of weird esoteric evil being vulnerable to Sons. Demiurge in Universal War is just a title for lesser god below the big ultimate creator God.
>>98722760My favourite is Strength
>>98722857The Old Law will prevail against such darkness.
Why are there so few good new CYOAs?
>>98722855>longhoused cyoa>serving the true fatherlol
>>98722760Depends. I am working on a Moon and Sun build so that I can be Paul Atreides but that's just me.
>>98722892Lol you just made me realize that Entropiss should be called toxic masculinity. The memes will be glorious!
>>98722121paladin hands typed this post
>>98722902>toxic masculinityReddit is that way, troon.
>>98722121based
>>98722760Fool, for the whole 'you'll almost certainly win in the end' thing.
I am so tired of bigoted cyoas like entropist made by disgusting male pigs, who are all incels rapists. When are we going to get inclusive cyoas?
>>98722919>When are we going to get inclusive cyoas?https://cyoa.allsync.com/s/owWor64yLTngDk3?dir=/CYOA%20Creators%2C%20Authors/AshleyJoannaLaw%27s%20aka%20DBCoopercabra%27s%20CYOAsMany of the cyoas made by this author are anti-chud. Enjoy xister.
>>98722919When Aro stops remaking her old CYOA
>>98722910>>98722919What did I tell you, epic memes. WHY ARE ALL THE GIFTS CIS HET WOMEN?!?!?
>>98722915NTA but I rolled a 1 on my fool roll (years ago but rerolling feels like cheating). Luck is the ultimate power though.
>>98722937Why is there not a single transexual gift?! Are het men really that insecure that they can't date one?!
>>98722954And what's with that drawback that prevents fems like us from being our true selves?
So disgusting that all gifts have slim figures (ugh) that incels like. That is rooted in pedophilia, you know? When are we going to get companions in cyoas with REALISTIC FEMALE BODIES?
>>98722965no one wants a fat fleshlight
It's funny that even in their male power fantasy they admit that only the divine feminine is capable of creation while all they know is destruction and domination.
>>98722919https://imgchest.com/p/ej7m2a5v9yd
>>98722966Fat is like, a real thing, you know? Those unrealistic bodies are not real. You would know if you ever talked to women.
>>98722966>Fleshlight It's so crazy that these nem have to imagine a woman being compelled to love them, without the possibility of them thinking for themselves. That's all we are to them is Fleshlights!
>>98722666Is there any reason not to just take Recluse, Abode and just fuck around in your personal heaven until you become nigh omnipotent?
>>98722760>Gift: The Tower >Patron: This fine fellowYep, its Universal War time
>The best way to imagine the process, is the Father using Power Word: "Make perfect waifus for my new Son according to the nature of his reality, that they may be as powerful and as loving as possible. Make the best waifus according to circumstances".
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>>98723006Akanistha.
>>98722999>those digits Is this...our karma?
>>98722919I plan to make one where, get this, you're forced to be a GIRL. Take that incels!
>>98723006Sukhavati, the land of Amida Butsu. One hundred million japanese can't be wrong.
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>>98722912Why do you post the picture of your build that was enslaved by softie so much?
>>98722062>Really the whole perms death problem is caused by the father, wouldn't be an issue if he was goneHow likely is this to even happen outside of soul torture farms?
>>98723034Please close the orgasm gap if you make this!
>>98723064Kek
>>98722673Need nerdy Thousand Daughters gf. I'll give her 1000 daughters, if you know what I mean.
>>98723096>How likely is this to even happen outside of soul torture farms?,
Enough! This is 4chud. Where are my cute and funny cyoas?!
>>98723128Gone after lolifags were whelmed and banished to /trash/. This is now a moral general.
>>98723128https://imgchest.com/p/ej7mn6lmayd
>>98723135BILLIONS MUST DIE
>>98723139I want a completed cyoa. Not this WIP garbage.
>>98723006Sukhavati. The entire point is awakening, so this is a natural choice.
>>98722912>>98723066Im thinking about updating my build to make my Bloom FleshDancer, but better than toks. Thoughts?
>>98723179Funny
>>98722887Because you're comparing to a couple decades worth of old ones
>>98722887Because all the authors left and the ones that are still here already did what they needed, the only thing that remains is to milk old projects. The tankSHITsta special.
>>98723179Call it "Aphrodite from Hades" instead of naming her after that disgrace. Flesh Dancer isn't even a real name, it's a superpower.
>>98723218That is actually tok ximself, wanting to have a build people like.
>>98723224This is actually tok not wanting to get humiliated
have a toktstic day
>>98723218Funny enough its not dissimilar from one of my orignal bloom ideas, I just thought it would be funny. And she already has a name.
Gil?
Bane?
>>98723236Thanks wodan
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Reddit sloppa for the slop lordshttps://rocketman405.neocities.org/
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>>98723377>reddit>didnt even post the first pageBegone for all time
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>>98723435It's an interactive (I realize that's worse but anon did have a reason(
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It is an interactive Pact/Pact-inspired cyoa, it has no pics, it is massive and it has some annoyances of interactive format. Cyoas are good because you can see all the info before you make a choice, everything that makes you unable to do so is just shit design.
>>98720299Does anyone have any CYOAs where you get to form expeditions to one or more of the following lost lands?: >Atlantis>Lemuria (Kumari Kandam) >Mu >Hyperboria>Agartha>Shambhala (Shangri-La) >Thule >Hy-Brasil >Aztlan>Dvaraka >Iram of the Pillars/Atlantis of the Sands >Kitezh >Lost City of Z >Otuken >The Seven Cities of Gold (El Dorado, Cibola, Paititi, City of the Caesars, Manoa, Antillia and Quivira) >Jomsborg & Vineta>Libertatia>Avalon >Camelot>Cantre'r Gwaelod>Llys Helig>Lyonesse >Ys
>>98723377>This rank opens no workings of its own that you can see yet (one stays hidden until you find it); its power is in the abilities on this card.Hidden options? Again? Why does every goddamn interactive do this
>>98723096Getting eaten by a son is probably unlikely, but still a credible threat. Soul degradation is probably very unlikely because why would you destroy you soul stock in a long term it's a permanent loss in productivity. But since father is Entropy aligned and Entropy is evil might as well just get rid of him.
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>>98723670Lost Worlds CYOA.Lost Continent CYOA.Treasure Hunter CYOA.
>>98722981Peak cyoa moment.Then the ""author"" of that abomination deleted their account and the post.Good times... I am glad I was able to get it before it was deleted and share it
>>98724085>why would you destroy you soul stock in a long term it's a permanent loss in productivity.Because not doing that is not squeezing everything out of food.Let's put dumb numbers as an example. The amount of pain a soul can endure before degrading is 10. A demiurge or demon with a soul will torture it to get good and power out of it.Once they reach 9, and the soul is almost degrading, they can:A. Do nothing and let the soul reincarnate or something. It doesn't reset the number, it will be a reincarnation with 9 out 10 in the pain scale.B. Keep feeding from it and reach 10, soul degradesSo literally they gian nothing from it. They have a limit to how much they can torture a soul. So why not reach that limit anyway?In this case, the limit of pain in souls is a good thing, because otherwise souls that belong to those beings would get tortured endlessly.You can say Entropy is generally evil, but this particular thing is good.And btw, you can't get rid of Entropy nor the Father. He is truly immortal. And if you could, somehow, get rid of him, the multiverse would become hell.
>>98724659>So literally they gian nothing from it.Except souls do this thing called "have kids".
>>98724667To have kids souls have to go to the planes conquered by those beings. But souls that are not evil don't go there.It would be reincarnating evil doers, but thet get those souls from the stream between worlds anyway.So basically, they already do that but without having to wait for 9 months. At most you could say its a new form of torture for the mother.
>>98724674>To have kids souls have tohave sex. You have sex and kids come out.
>>98724683And those kids must have souls.But souls are not generated with sex, but by the mother. And those souls have to travel to get to the body. And souls have a pattern and rules to where they go.
>>98724690>And those kids must have souls.And they do. Which means souls arrive when biological life is created. Which means the best way to maximize soul extraction is to leave souls capable of generating more biological life.
>>98724695>And they do. Which means souls arrive when biological life is createdYou are assuming it works like in our world, when its explicit that1. Neutral and good souls dont go where demons are. 2. Demons already snatch souls from the stream between worldJust use logic. If the mother creates 10 souls, those are the souls available, and 1000000 people have sex to create a baby, what happens?
>>98724703Go on, point out all the people born without souls in the cyoa. The setting operates under "people who are alive have souls", thats why you can kill them for souls. The fact that the author is retarded and created a non-functional cosmology doesent change that.
>>98724707You were close to getting it.Its as easy as without souls, people are not alive. Which means, there is no baby.You assume its always "sex = baby" when its as easy as without a soul there is no baby in the first place. You can fuck and fuck and fuck but there is no baby being born from it.So yeah, people who are alive have souls. Its not a retarded non-functional cosmology, but you assuming you only need sex for a baby to be made in all cosmologies.
>>98724714>You assume its always "sex = baby"Yes, because thats how that works. It is a biological process.
>>98724659Reincarnation should reset the painscale as it erases all the memories and experiences. Like babies aren't magicaly born with insta trauma.
>>98724725irl, where magic and souls do not exist or at least not proven.Not in a cyoa where you are a demigod of entropy with lightning out of your fingertips and a Tok god fucking people up.Its like complaining that in dragon ball if you train with 100x gravity you become strong but irl it doesnt matter how strong you are if the blood in your body starts to be weight in kilograms and its too heavy to be moved around by your heart.Or how with that gravity their testicles and hair would come out
>>98724703She just makes more souls, like that's the main reason why Father can never win Mother just makes more souls than he can destroy.
>>98724727It resets their mind, but not the pain in the soul.The limit of the pain is in the soul, not the mind.
>>98724734She can and will create more souls, but that doesnt mean those souls are limitless or that they will go where demons want. Specially when the mother hates demons.
>>98724736What the fuck is soul pain? Like what you can just be super happy and have 99% soul pain?
>>98724738It's most likely an automatic system what is she just randomly going to decide that this specific embryo doesn't have a soul because they got born near a demon infestation?
I am starting to think this is just a baiter asking stupid questions to keep the whole "Sons are more le evil than demons torturing souls because I dont like it. they are just misunderstood or something" that should have ended yesterday. Not going to continue with this.
>>98724749>It's most likely an automatic systemautomatic systems have rules>what is she just randomly going to decide that this specific embryo doesn't have a soul because they got born near a demon infestation?she simply could have chosen for souls to not be born near a demon infestation as a rule. Just like souls with sins are heavier and easy to catch for demons. Or do you think she bears no control at all of her creation and if enough demons had enough babymakers all created souls would go there and the creator of souls, The Mother, would be left without options like a retard?
>>98724758Like was this written down somewhere as one of her abilities because we can potentially speculate what she might be able to do but we won't really know if it's actually something she can do, we are just making stuff up at this point. Like I might say there is a possibility that she can insta force people to reincarnate because she is controlling the reincarnation system. Maybe she can do that I don't know how much control she has on life. If it's not written somewhere I am not assuming that she has that ability.
>>987247771. She creates souls2. Souls without sins do not go where demons are3. Souls created do not have sinsAll of this is confirmed. So there is no reason to think a demon can just glitch the system to get new souls without sins when they specifically can only get evil souls from the stream. Their only method of getting new good souls being invasionsI am not going to japan to desecrate EA's corpse to ask him something like this when its obvious. I look like Tok repeating raw but this is a raw thing of the lore.
>>98724782Well, I was more thinking about them creating farm worlds on the system they invade but do not fully absorb into the hells. The hells are probably fully spiritual places as demons are fully spiritual so there just can't be biological life to have kids there.
>>98724750Well sons are more evil than demons, demons feed on sin so they just corrupt you to do sin. So it's way less bad than getting soul killed.
>>98724744Your soul is already eroded when you're born if your previous incarnation was tortured too much, probably.
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>>98724841But most demiurges probably wouldn't farm you until your soul started eroding, just send them to reincarnate before it ever hits that point.
