Too skull for school edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>98723926 >Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/>4e Booksgofile.io/d/JXpc9g>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator (old):https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread Question:Somebody anwser him >>98733958
>TQAgainst ogors you can take +1 to wound on non-hero units in almost every situation. Your units have ward and good save or resurrecting models (both on cavalry). You can also lower rend on a roll once per turn.Your general is even tougher, since he has better save, better ward with bodyguards and you can give him heal.You don't have amazing rend but you do have crit mortals
>>98734038In other words, I had the odds stacked against me?
>>98734097Yes. How fast was he at killing your models?
>>98733781>brought everything to play they no longer had interestIt sucks man. You can bond to them on everything but that. You can chat about game design and game feel, mutually watch a podcast, watch Jonny progress videos, etc but then they say "that's not for me." My Brother in Christ what do you mean.
>>98734318Gluttons were taken off the board and never got to use them. My Ironguts, Cavalry, and Tyrant killed his armored skeletons which I don't remember the name, destroyed his cav, 1 shot his Wightking, and that's about it. He started to get ahead when he 2 units of the weak skeletons came in and had more control.
Wasn't this guy a blanche artwork turned into a model to? Talk about bad timing
>>98734384Glad I saw the writing on the wall and got this before they nuked him. Remember him every time people try to cope about mold costs and whatever. GW clearly don't give a fuck.
>>98734384
>>98734376>>98734376Did he keep his barrow guard and general together? You do have some heavy hitters but it seems way to quick to oneshot hit general with ward 5+
>>98734399No he did not, I landed 11 damage on his Wight King.
>>98734393Mold costs were never relevant. Sure, they're like 50k but GW produces each kit for a material cost of like 0.0005p. That's a 100% profit at RRP basically. GW's main expenditure is warehouse and shipping logistics. GW aren't squatting stuff because of lagging profits or whatever, they just lack the capacity to produce and store everything. Thankfully they're opening US warehousing because the UK cockblocked every expansion they attempted, hence two paint ranges because they could only build one new factory and you can't just overhaul half your production capacity to adjust the older one.
>>98734384This is cool and shit but all I can think about is how stupid it must look for bystanders to see some dumbass filming a drawing process at a random cafe
>>98734433it'd just look like he's using references tbhon
>>98734433why would it look stupid?
>>98734411Big mistake on his part but that is obscene amout of damage
>>98734442because he's trying to show off his skill? crabs in a bucket
I am BEGGING GW to give Deepkin some armor that looks like this. Do NOT give it to chaos.
>>98734545They already have an armour design language and it isn't bronze age
>>98734554the army isnt even properly defined and the Akhelians that do have armor wouldn't look out of place with bronze age stuff. Hell, the ones with actual armor are hero's, and its fine for just them to be stand offish from the rank and dank.
>>98734420i don't think it was the UK or even the local Nottingham government blocking GW expansion it was the other companies in the same area, since they knew they could get a way higher price than the normal land cost
This guy is a lot more annoying to magnetize than I thought, might have to give up on it.
>>98734574No, GW bought the land outright. They're only leasing the upcoming one outside Nottingham, which can't be helped given the location is ideal for exporters. GW were 100% upheld by planning permission. Heck, they had to postpone everything for a car park once because someone reported a single endangered bat was seem there once.UK officials just want bribed, it's like Russia. Where I live you see a listed building mysteriously burn to the ground every few years after councilors are bribed to grant free permission afterwards instead of a restoration effort. Meanwhile half the city is derelict because a big company had development efforts stalled at every turn by council opposition because they weren't getting bribed. It's been like 20 years.
>>98734667There are guides out there, he’s not that difficult at all.
>>98734674Cutting off the pegs, getting a magnet to fit just right and not having it look like shit is proving to be a bit of a challenge.I'll try again tomorrow I guess.
>>98734682By the way have to love seeing this fucking mug every single time you look up a magnetization guide of any kind.
>>98734690Lel
>>98734690NOOOOO DON'T GET MORE VALUE OUT OF THE STUFF YOU BUY! This is not the mexican way!
>>98734767Been ages since I watched part of it but from what I remember he doesn't even commit to that, it's typical fence sitting bullshit.
First war machine I painted>>98734690What is his argument? Magnets are quite literally a dime a dozen and it’s not as hard as people make it out to be? Worst case scenario you lose a couple bucks on magnets and maybe need some green stuff to repair your model
>>98734545I'm glad someone else is catching on to bronze age deepkin It works so well thematically bros...
>>98734097I don't play Spearhead but keep in mind that the worst vs best army win rates are like 42 to 58% so I don't think you should feel like you can't win>>98734885Clickbait title thumbnail makes me feel like the video is going to actually hold the opposite viewpoint
>>98734885>>98734928I know the dude and he magnetizes every other model, seems the argument is basically "yeah it's worth it on bigger models but don't waste your time on magnetizing chaff"Absolute non issue of a video idea, I guess he was running short on rent that week or something lol
>>98734545the armour should be similar to the akhelian king, soulrender and eidolonmaking them heavily inspired by historical designs just for a unit or two will cause tonal whiplash in the range and make the new models look less like elves and more like humans
>>98734955I feel like the eidolon has a pretty different design compared to the king and soulrender desu
>>98734928I've never seen spearhead ranking. Care to post it?
Has anyone made anything like pic related for spearhead?
>>98735010Not that I’ve seen but that’s a neat idea. I don’t think we here could pull it off since it requires actually playing the game and there’s only a few of us here that do.
>>98735010>you may need as many as three boxes of a specific kill team to actually play the teamThe fuck?
>>98735057I think one of the genestealer cult teams needs a couple boxes since GW sells the patriarch/magus separately or something
>>98735057That’s where spearhead actually mogs the fuck out of the other specialist games. Warcry and Kill Team have that possibility of needing/preferring more than one box to play a good team.
finished lizard book.lizard book is great
Helsmiths, Slaves to Darkness, Idoneth, DoK or Sylvaneth? I'm completely new.
>>98735093Slaves for ease of play, might be a bit annoying to paint with all their trim and trinkets. DoK are kinda hard on both play and painting. Helsmiths look easiest to paint out of all your options, no idea how hard they are to play, though. They aren’t too strong presently but that could change because they just got some significant changes. Sylvaneth are strong and not too bad to paint, but definitely have a learning curve to get that strength out of them. I, as a player and collector of Idoneth, cannot in good faith recommend them to a newcomer in their current state. If you want to paint them, they can be tricky but not impossible. General guideline is to collect what you want via a priority. The priority I follow is Models>Hobby>Lore>Gameplay.
>>98735093You posted a bull centaur, you mentioned helsmiths first, you clearly want them above the others, so what's the holdback from?
>>98735093Seeing as you posted a bull centaur instead of a varanguard, eidolon, morathi, or treelord, I think you alreaty know what your heart wants anon
>>98735127trim is just a dry brush before you detail anything tbhon or leave it one colour
>>98735093>helsmithsa new, and fairly small army, it has a limited pool of units to draw from but does have all the meat and potatoes of army building covered. it uses a mechanic of territorial control to gain sorcerous power which it uses to upgrade its units, which can make its learning curve somewhat steep. can build shooting or melee depending on what you take. not outright horde but not super elite, a well rounded armypainting difficulty: 4/10gameplay difficulty: 7/10>slaves to darknessbulky armored knights: the army. does what it says on the tin, its a stat check army with good fundamentals in melee and durability, and some not insignificant spellcasting as well. has more or less zero shooting. leans elite, has access to horde elements but they often arent very good paying for sins of past editions where the horde was too strong. very easy to play, possibly the easiest in the game, also easy to paintpainting difficulty: 2/10gameplay difficulty: 2/10>DoKthis army lives and dies around a single model: morathi. when morathi is strong, the army is strong, when morathi is weak the army is weak. how well you use morathi determines how well you do with it. otherwise its a glass cannon army of elite snakes, tricky harpies, and hordes of berserker elves in bikinis. lots of damage, dies easily. painting is mostly easy if you are confident with skin, but if skin is hard for you it will be a hard army to paintpainting difficulty: 5/10gameplay difficulty: 8/10>sylvanethtricksy army of big monsters and fragile sneaky skirmishers. relies on teleportation, terrain, and hit and run shenanigans. has a powerful god unit but doesnt always rely on it like DoK does with morathi. after a recent expansion it does have more unit diversity. easier to paint than it looks, harder to play than it looks. possibly the steepest learning curve in the game, very unforgiving, but rewarding to play, very tactically deep.painting difficulty: 4/10gameplay difficulty: 10/10
>>98734885Pretty coolWhat Skaven machine is that? >>98734955Good point
>>98735091Tchaikovsky is a writer for GW??? How do they do it……..??????
>>98735093>idonetha lightning assault army that uses high speed mobility and high accuracy and high damage attacks to launch scalpel strikes at vulnerable targets. some of its units have good defense, but its low body count, low health count, and lack of healing make it an army that doesnt suffer losses well outside of a rarely played niche horde build. how hard it is to paint will depend on how fancy you want to get with painting sea creatures skin, but the elves themselves are not too difficult. i recommend painting in sub assemblies for cavalry and weapon platform models. mostly melee, mostly elite, can build for horde and ranged though those arent its strengths. painting difficulty: 5/10gameplay difficulty: 5/10
>>98735185i think he's only done that one and a gsc novel for 40k.>How do they do it……..??????money?
>>98735217Uncultured lmao
>>98735177Warp lightning cannon
>Gobsprakk
>>98735217Didn’t he do a SCE short as well
>>98735251W sumie wszystko pasuje
>>98735091It had a pacing problem when the characters got split in my opinion.
>>98735127>>98735161>>98735194Massive thanks for the write up. This actually makes my choice much, much easier. >>98735152Yes and no, I got this image from this thread. I do think that Bulltaurs are super cool. Shame that there is no Bulltaur hero.I'll grab a Slaves to Darkness Spearhead (the good one), paint it up, play some games and see how it goes. I'll leave the elves for when I'm more comfortable with painting.
>>98735128I actually got told by some people in my LGS that I should skip them for an edition as they are unfun to play. I do like the models and the lore quite a lot.
>>98735331The edition is ending next year, anon.The world is falling apart too.
>>98734346I feel you, randos almost always pull this stuff regardless of game. Thankfully the rare few who do pull through end up sticking to play all kinds of stuff.
>>98735331Their lore and models are good. They’ve been growing on me A LOT recently. If you like them collect them as a second army or hobby project once you get better at painting. Remember, rules are temporary, models are forever.
>>98735331By the time you finish painting your army it will be the next edition anyway.Cool ass models trump rules in any case.
>>98735316>Shame that there is no Bulltaur hero.They wronged us
>>98735363Them announcing a dedicated AoS FW team and then never producing anything but 2 stormcast head packs will never not be funny to me.And now they don't even sell the retarded dragon anymore.
>>98735383Yeah, especially because AoS was perfect for their monsters. You couldn't even use most of the stuff because of tryhards arguing about allegiance t.had to run GA Destruction to use my hag and basilisk for the longest time
>>98735383>And now they don't even sell the retarded dragon anymore.IIRC they only sold it for 17 months. Almost as long as it took to make it in the first place.
>>98735383It's probably way better from a financial pov now that they're essentially just running their own game systems within games workshop but I do kind of miss when forgeworld was making random niche bullshit for the main systems, even if it was mostly 40k.
>>98735413They were dead long before then unfortunately. The success of 30K was a curse that made them produce nothing but marineshit and then all the people interested in sculpting anything else were gone.
>>98735383Well damn, I like the top left face.
>>98735421Forgeworld died with Alan Bligh.
>>98735426That's true. Man was a legend.
>>98735383>>98735405the dragon existed exclusively to give trish carden a cushy jobshe was a long-standing sculptor at gw, for reasons we may never know since a lot of her sculpts were trash, but when the company moved to plastic and 3d sculpting she didn't keep up with the medium and did less and less until she was moved to forge world to do whatever and pretend to have a job since nobody cared about what fw did
>>98735363Gonna get my buddy to print a scan of this guy and run him as the generic bull hero for hoh. (Apparently hes fuckoff massive)
>>98735454It's kind of like how the wives of comics guys would get adult daycare jobs as editors and the like.
>>98735454Never liked her dragons much but we owe her for the troll hag so that's gotta count for something
How would you feel if in the next starter set, the "order" side of the box had two spearheads for two completely different armies?
>>98735523I'm tired of stormies, but cos also have a good range now, only thing they would reasonably warrant is an order of azyr expansion.
>>98735331the models are good, but the army does have some serious problems at the moment. the overall lack of unit choices, combined with the fact that several of their unit choices are not good or limited in function means they get stuck relying on 1 or 2 units to do all the heavy lifting. neither the shieldwall troops nor the hobgrots have any decent buffs or heroes to let you build them into a meaningful part of the fighting force. those units can barely fight their way out of a paper bag and no amount of wizards or commanders can really change that. but they also lack attrition mechanics like regeneration or high wound count, so they dont really do the ardboy thing of being dense walls of meat either. they're just speed bumps and territory grabbers, and can never rise above that mechanically with what they have. then there's the sorcerers. overall low spellcast count. most are 1 cast, the 300pt generic sorcerer is only 1 cast. the 350pt named sorcerer is only 2 cast. this is a general 4th edition problem but it plagues armies like helsmiths that want to rely on a cabal of wizards. this is compounded by most wizards not having unique warscroll spells anymore, the army not having its own endless spells, and the spell lores in 4th only having 3 spells each instead of the previous 6. all of this adds up to wizards just being very downplayed this edition, and helsmiths are an army led almost exclusively by wizards.
>>98735363That’s a cool design but I can’t tell where his head/face starts and ends.
>>98735584contthen there's the issue of the army having an inverse power curve. most armies in the game are at their strongest on turn 1 and diminish as the game goes on and they lose models, which means all of age of sigmar is usually playing balls to the wall in the early turns. helsmiths, because of their territorial control demonic power system, are the opposite. they start off very weakened and their units feeble, and as you seize more control over the table during the game you get more points to power up your units. but the issue here is that your army has to endure against the enemy for 3 or 4 turns to get to that point, when most enemy armies are at their strongest turn 1 or 2, and with single health infantry and 4+ saves on the cavalry with no ward, helsmiths didnt really get the benefit of being particularly durable as an army compared to a proper tank army like maggotkin or ironjawz.the armies of renown address a few of these issues, but also severely limit the army rosters by excluding cavalry and hobgrots or infantry and artillery respectively, as well as losing access to a lot of the armies buffs, so they are dubious and highly skewed
>>98735523Only if it is like a snarlfang, where spearhead is also a ror
>>98735523That seems like a terrible idea
Since we're on the topic how would you guys expand chorfs? Trains are obviously a no go or the artillery piece we have would have been one.
>>98735523I wouldn'y be a big fan. Unless we explicitly get grand alliance rules for army building again. Getting what woukd equate to like 250-300ish points for 2 armys (and its entirely possible I do not own the other) would be pretty shit.Especially if its like 4 half assed armys in the box.
>>98735342Well, the world is yet somehow the rules will probably remain the same and we'll still be playing the same armys...
>>98735599Didn’t they just FAQ the army abilities?
>>98735724Not enough to particukarly fix the glaring issues of DPP being the main focus of the faction.If they're gonna do that at this point I'd rather stacking buffs for you or debuffs for the enemy as you destroy the map alongside the passive power gain per turn for the aor.
>>98735737This playstyle is quite hard to make work in IGOUGO tabletop. I’ve seen it executed very well in Conquest’s Ermor, sorry, Old Dominion thoughbeit.
>>98735703Best I can do is An army of renown
>>98735744I think a bit more power needs to be baked into the units to be honest, a ward save at base level or slightly better save would do wonders. God forbid maybe 2 hp infantry so it doesn't play like a pseudo horde army. I don't really understand the gimmick of chorfs because they don't particularly hit anything super well and are just okay all around. (Except bull centaurs being solid shock cav)
>>98735724yeah, it made them slightly better, but its still a bandaid on a broken knee. the faction traits are nice, but it doesnt change that most of the armies units still require 2-3 dpp EACH to power up, which means you are just very limited in the amount of units who can actually do their job at any time, and the FAQ didnt really address this. we would need faster dpp generation or lower dpp costs to full power on warscrolls across the board to really make a dent. this would be a great thing to give the wizards, like an unlimited spell that generates dpp or something, given that its demonic power and the daemonsmiths are the wielders of demonic power, but currently there's nothing to generate more apart from controlling more of the board and a once per turn (army) ability. making reserves of demonic power an unlimited spell instead of a once per turn command ability might help
>>98735667>heavy armoured elite infantry>bull centaur hero>chorf weapon time style unit (bazooka option, swivel gun option, mini-mortar option)>artillery in general, plenty of previous iterations to draw upon>lamassu>gholems of hashut / kdaai fireborn>ranged hobgrotsPlenty of routes to go down and that's just considering stuff to refresh from earlier versions of the army. Also more obscure oldhammer options like the juggernaut.If we're talking totally new stuff I'd like them to do something with the hashutaar cult, like a berzerker unit with dual axes or anointed sentinel style glaives.Also a bull-chariot unit to up the assyria connection. I just like chariots in general and aos has too little of them. Rules team has no idea how to make them interesting either.>>98735703Starter set armies are usually like 1200 a side or something so if one was split into two you'd get about 600 each, which is alright for a spearhead (if a little below average)
>>98735829these could be pity heroes instead of units
>>98735667I just want fluffy stuff that fleshes out and exemplifies HS culture. The Infernal Guard are an easy example that I really hope make the transfer from traditional chorfs to the HS.Beyond that obvious one, I think I'd like to see some sort of war machine designed around area denial. Maybe something that pollutes the ground behind it, or "blesses" the ground ahead of it. Moreover, if GW is going to commit to the whole fem-dwarf thing, then I'd like to see some priestesses or handmaids of Hashut that are meaningfully different (in terms of looks, function, and lore) than the priest of Hashut model(s) we have now.I wouldn't mind some bound daemon stuff either. Maybe some constructs that function like monstrous infantry or a wall that you can lose control of under certain circumstances.
>>98735642Given RoR it really isn't? If it was an AoR soup for those specific models it'd work too. And ofc 4th launched with humans and Stormcast already.
Are AoS books full of gay shit like Mike Brooks books?
>>98735523>demigryphs >hurricanum>steam tank literally the coolest shit squatted
>>98735868not quite as much, but yes
>>98735868A few explicitly LGBT books but mostly just woke centric stuff like anti-racism
>>98735851I mean I'll take a bull centaur 'pity' hero >>98735867Splitting up your launch box in three armies instead of two is just asking for trouble. It's just one extra army you have to be interested in, or one extra person you gotta find to share it with, it just needlessly complicates things for ...what exactly?
>>98735667>Bull centaur hero/champion of Hashut>Taskmaster/guy with a whip to buff hobgrots>Hobgrot grenadiers with the option to suicide bomb if they're within X inches>Huge artillery centerpiece >Endless spells but they're demonic pollution
>>98735880>>98735883Is this one of them?
>>98735878Worst part is that tow players actively dislike the hurricanum, it fits aos way better honestly. Demigryph cav was hated back in the day too but I assume people have warmed up to them these days as they were in total war.
>>98735878Can’t have retard energy in cities, just retard. Love the cogfort though, and the whole mobile fortress theme.
Okay so we've got "normal" dwarfs now (khazalites), we've got chaos dwarfs (helsmiths), how do we feel about AoS' third and most original dwarf faction?How would >(you) expand them?
>>98735667I feel like they should probably have their own versions of Black Arks that they use to experiment on and mutate stuff and deploy them on the battlefield at will, but land based of course instead of the naval theme the WHF/AoS BAs have. Kind of like a bigger more messed up version of the new Dwarf landships, maybe even Ziggurat themed. >>98735899>Endless spells but they’re demonic pollutionGood idea, we always need more of those.
>>98735914what’s the lantern for
>>98736093What did confrontation do with thier steampunk dwarves? Do that. But also give them prize fighters with something like power fists, maybe even give them a dual build where they have fyreslayer refugees in there. >why would fyreslayers join a bunch of atheists? Idk I just like the idea of a bunch of dwarven refugees in khadrons.Also an obligatory swarm unit composed of the mechanical bird things. It’s odd how little swarms we have in aos. Even 40k embraces them.
>>98736093balloon based hoverbikes to fill the cavalry 4-5 health 3 model archetype. also a version of grunstok thunderers but with hammers or axes, like an admirals entourage
>>98736154>atheiststhe KO arent atheists. they fully aknowledge their gods, they just dont trust thembut the city of barak thryng has a more religious overtone and sees the veneration of the gods as well as the welcoming of fyreslayers, so thats definitely a thing in the lore. you used to even be able to run them together via coalition
>>98736093>How would >(you) expand them?Hear me out - heavy duty mining/battle suits for dropping into volcanoes and other resource rich locations that the average crew can't get to.
Anyone with the urak tar kit, I know you can make an on foot demonsmith with the kit, how easily can you convert urak tar himself to an on foot ashen elder? Thinking about getting 2 of the kit, one as urak tar and one as generic, and would be nice if i could make both on foot heroes out of those.
>>98736178This is probably the most common kharadron suggestion since they dropped all the way back in 1stWe kind of got something like that with the null-khemist or whatever he's called but I feel like it's not quite a full big daddy esque exo suit
All right chads/chuds, what are we mad at today?
>>98736308I dunno. The long wait for battletome scans?
>>98736255I'd imagine it's pretty easy. Just snip off his horns, fill in the gaps to reshape the head, maybe swap the head of his staff with a hammer, and maybe give him a little tactical rock to angle on properly.
>>98736308Nothing reallyPretty tranquil saturday
>>98736308The 19th amendment of the Kharadron code. We must repeal it.
>>98736132It captures ghosts.
>>98735091I'm just glad to see Lizardmen finally getting a POV novel to themselves. They lacked so much characterization in Fantasy. It's nice to see them get a bit more personality while still maintaining their cold-blooded alienness.
>>98735883>anti-racismHow does this fit in a Warhammer setting?
>>98736498it doesnt, for the most part cities are more racist than 40k at times.
>>98735868>Are AoS books full of gay shit like Mike Brooks books?They should be
>>98736513Racist against non-humans I assume.
>>98735025>>98735010Guess we can start by just giving our thoughts on spearheads and someone can make a chart based off our responses. I’ll go firstI’ve only player the gnawfeast clawpack so far but it feels quite strong and easy to play. The warlock engineer can basically shoot across the entire board and can just sit on an objective deep in your territory. The grey seers bonus to control combos well with clanrats since it can give them control and getting decently consistent mortal damage is nice. The clawlord on gnawbeast is a decent general although he feels too squishy for melee. It’s best to take skryre connections for him and just shoot with melee being a last resort. The clan rats are useful and the fact they both respawn is amazing since they can just hold down the enemy for the first turn or two. The rat ogres are your best unit and can both apply some nice ranged pressure against melee armies and provide a good counterpunch against whoever pushes through the clan rats to try and attack your back line. I will say the whole tunneling thing isn’t that great since the board is so small and you don’t exactly have any units that can comfortably drop into the enemy back line.
>>98736370EAT DIRT! Clause 3, part ii, subsection 43c is positively fundamental for the prosperity of the sky-ports!
>>98736498Azyrites vs reclaimed
>>98736533And tribes of humans.
>>98736308I'm mad that the Luminark of Hysh wasn't the basis for reimagining CoS technology.
>>98736569It's weird they're putting it into legends but reference it all the time. I can only hope they're making a new model for it so the old one can go to TOW
>>98734690The great irony being he shills the magnet baron all the time.
>>98736581CoS novels heavily feature warrior priests (the hammer ones from fantasy) and Swifthawke Agents are a very common mention across AoS books despite both not being sold for AoS for two editions now and not even being available for sale on the site, in general, for years.
>>98736581you could mount the luminarks magnifying lense contraption to the top of a siege castle. that would be a fun wizards tower
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>>98736178Cool armor >>98736308Chud = portmanteau of Chad + stud
Can maulbeast raiders work after the points drop?
>>98736581Its not coming to TOW, it wasnt invented at the time TOW is set
>>98734545>lets give ANOTHER faction bull hornsI’m going to punt you in the ribs
>>98735010Not in a chart format per se, but All Out AOS has done spearhead reviews for nearly every spearhead including a general breakdown of playstle and difficulty. I don’t have a ton of games under my belt but i think it wouldnt be that hard to put a chart together like this using those videos and tournament stats as a reference
>>98735072You need a brood brothers box and the broodcoven box since that one has all your leader characters.
>>98735093>helsmithsHard to play, medium paint difficulty>Slaves to darknessEasy to play, hard to paint>IDKMedium to paint and play>Sylvaneth Easy to paint and play. Fair warning, sylvaneth is the faction i see the most models of on second hand markets. Not really sure why, but they seem to have a high drop rate
>>98736093Heavy slow melee infantry that would actually need transporting.. im thinking heavy armor suits with massive hammers, pick axes, pile bunkers. One man skimmer style boat for cavalry.Submarine design looking boat for ultra high atmosphere. Most importantly, an actual centerpiece character model. The iron clad is fine, but KO really needs a proper central character on a boat. They had the opportunity to do this with Drekki and they didn’t. Im thinking something like the dwarf king on his stone boat or the newer female commissar with her personal vehicle, thats the kind of shit we need more of
>>98737384>Most importantly, an actual centerpiece character model. The iron clad is fine, but KO really needs a proper central character on a boat. They had the opportunity to do this with Drekki and they didn’t. Im thinking something like the dwarf king on his stone boat or the newer female commissar with her personal vehicle, thats the kind of shit we need more ofPlease understand I am attempting to say this as politely as possible, but people with your mentality are the reason that all GW products have went to shit. Warhammer is all about /yourdudes/, not having Faggot McBIgmodel on a $100+ centerpiece that gives game winning buffs and is effectively a must-take for any army to win. Keep that this in 40k.
>>98736171>city where everyone holds stupid grudges>except against the god that abandoned them in their hour of need, they let that slideIm glad GW is finally drawing the line in the sand between stupid grognard dwarf and modern KO
>>98737401>AOS is all about /yourdudes/Im happy for you anon, i really am, but i actually like the setting original character's of AOS. Factions are only as interesting as the characters in them and I’d rather have more of that. Besides, they could always do a generic version so you can have you OC sky captain or whatever
>>98737384Damn that’s a great kitbash almost makes me wish it was real
>>98734433Cafes exist to be snooty and performative at>>98736093My favorite dorf faction across all of Warhammer and my second-favorite for AoS after Sylvaneth.I think I'd lean on the capitalism angle, I like the idea that they can use their aethergold to supercharge their weapons so some sort of in-match economy would expand on that concept nicely. Battle bursars, vault golems, Fort Knox zeppelin centerpiece. True blimpheads could play to maximize their profits rather than for the actual win conditions.
>Store owner at GW refuses to do the AoS Spearhead event because no one plays AoS there
I hate when my packages all show up when I'm on vacation, i want to get to work on me gargant.
>>98737401Nta BUTI think having big fuckoff characters is neat. I think shit like Ushoran is sick as hell to sell something like FEC, same with having named characters in general who have fluffy gimmicks. I do understand your point too, and honestly agree for sky dorfs. I think a much better thing would be an aircraft carrier you can just sit your dudes on and different pilots give it different boosts. I think there's room in cities for shit like Tahlia as much as your bog standard freeguild commander.
>>98734014Soon
>>98738033(Never)
>>98737742Classic Beasts of Chaos moment>nobody plays AoS so we don't support it with events>nothing ever happens for AoS, so nobody has incentive to play it>quietly drop it entirely because acknowledging your intentional inaction would be too much
While chorfs had a low win rate for a long time they are currently very strong and consistently put up top 3 or 5-0 results at tournaments. The overwhelming vibe of the response above make it seem like you'd be shooting yourself in the foot competitively by starting with that army. Theyre a 48% win rate army where the competitive builds routinely place in tournaments and the army just got a buff on top of that two days ago. They're competitively rock solid rn.
Does anyone have a list for a Legion of Blood themed army?
>>98738534I think they used to he the skeleton guys, but idk now
>>98735251
Few days ago AoS Team Poland posted a video with their current ranking of armies. Is this tier list correct?
>>98738604AoS Poland? I thought our game sent them into an incessant retard rage?
>>98738608There is a guy here that shits the thread once in a while and he claims that he is Polish but once he tried to speak polish it became apparent that he isn't.
>>98738604bonereapers, nighthaunt, krulboyz being that high and fyreslayers being that low seems a bit questionable but im not a super competitive player so it might track
>>98738604Might be. The armies I know seem well-placed.Somehow it feels worse to se KB so high, knowing that it is just because they get cheaper with each update. At least I can take swampcalla as a additional hero, that's great
>>98738636Not sure about the AoS scene but I remember in the past Poland got often accused by ruining a meta by using a super competitive and cheesy lists in several other games like Warmachine or Infinity.
>>98738608>>98738621I remember that. People decided to call him out and he google translated idioms that made no sens with literal translation or something like that
>>98737243So was the goblin hewer, GW doesn't give a fuck
>>98738621>>98738678Kek no fucking wayBy the way is the site all fucked today or something?
>>98738894Was down yesterday i think
>>98738678I kinda remember that. Was that the flanderized schizo?
>>98738996I think it was the goatslopper so maybe
>>98739040I remembered it was about an ogor box so it was him
>>98738621>>98738894Shits the thread as in he hates AoS? That’s pretty damn funny. >>98738894It shat out yesterday but it’s working fine on my end now.
>>98739056He acts like he cares but some new development has worried and angered him. For example, he kept talking about ogors being flanderized in their new tome but quickly proved that:- he haven't read the new tome and doesn't know what's in it- doesn't really know what was in previous tomes.After that he claimed that he ordered the box but cancelled his order. He provided a screenshot from a polish site and said that he was a Pole but proved that he can't speak Polish and used bad translations when called out.
>>98739147What possible benefit does he get from pretending to be polish? I’m very confused by his actions
>>98739287Back when jannitos got doxxed one of them was a Pole or some similar slav. He pretands he's him
>>98739001>DeviantArt-tier fanartnature is healing
>>98739147I usually don't give a fuck about thread schizos but this guy was hilarious. Multiple threads spent seething about "flanderization" while not having read the tome kek
I believe that the Last World interpretations that assume complete reduction of the realms into mere continents are just going way too far. It would completely erase a lot of what makes AoS' identity separate and unique from WHFB, render for nothing all the efforts and costs GW sunk into redeeming AoS and developping its lore and cosmology, and (much more importantly from a pure business standpoint) intrude too much into the space of Warhammer The Old World. If GW wants to cater to the WHFB nostalgics, then the simplest and more straighforward solution is to just put more money and development into TOW, instead of risking going through a redo of all the backlash they got for the End Times. I think it much more likely that the Last World will only have parts of the realms getting pulled into the Eightpoints to form the continents of the new planet, not the whole of the realms. That way, GW gets to have its cake and eat it too: give the people who want a simpler setting what they want, while still keeping the original realms around in some form for the people that like them as they are.
>>98739950The realms are irrelevant to the setting, they're just geographically separated. >but the potential of 1st edition realmgates GW don't care, we got concrete maps in 2e and in the case of Hysh: a COMPLETE mapThe realms have zero bearing on AoS save as zones of particular magical influence which is mostly also subdued and secondarily could and will just be a geographic biome.
>>98739001you just know look at his smug expression
>>98739950Eh I honestly don't think the realms being their own little pseudo-planets is essential for them to work. If they become continents, but each retains their bullshit (like ghur's landmasses "fighting" for dominion, or ghyran's sprouting new peninsulas all the time) I'd be perfectly fine with things. At least on the cosmological side of things.I think the timeskip is going to introduce far bigger problems than the realm merge honestly.Starting off your clean slate second attempt at the setting with a bullshit "and all the important character's emerged from their bunker :)" seems like an awful idea
>>98739950We just have to wait and see. Whatever is going to happen might be good idea done poorly or bad idea salvaged by execution
>>98739982>Starting off your clean slate second attempt at the setting with a bullshit "and all the important character's emerged from their bunker :)" seems like an awful ideaMaybe, but "all the important characters you just bought and painted are dead" is an even more terrible idea. The sensible thing to do here is to minimize the timeskip instead of jumping to some 1000 years bullshit.
>>98739994I agree, making the timeskip less dramatic is the best way to avoid the named character catch 22. Make it say 200 years or something and it's still long enough for all the new developments they want to fit in, while not fucking over the named characters. With aqua ghyranis being a thing that just about covers everyone, though it's probably stretching things a bit for the human characters. Seriously though a thousand year timeskip opens up a bunch of issues after we've been working in terms of decades since 1st edition. Why the fuck does all the cities stuff look exactly the same as it did a full millennium ago for example?
>>98740021except aqua ghyranis explicitly wont help people survive 200 years.
>>98740027Didn't the darkwater monks become nigh-immortal or some shit?I never bothered looking into the specifics desu
>>98740082in Zenestra's backstory it is mentioned that she is older than what aqua ghyranis can help you achive and she has been around for "only" 140ish years in the cities of sigmar.
>>98740095She's been definietly around for several 100s given she was old when vandus fought Khul.But yes, it does say Aqua has its limits and her age is werid as fuck
>>98740095>source: my gaping anus
>>98740095Her backstory is that she is an ancient Aqshy death god or carries the essence of it. The skeleton is the last essence holder or mortal it possessed; used up like a flame as the followers are. Zenestra was old when the Stormcast first arrived, so within the Darkwater monk territory, but that's irrelevant because she's an immortal god
>>98739982I agree too regarding the timeskip.Other problems I’ve thought about (although admittedly more personal nitpicks then anything else):>Hysh is supposed to be the Sun, and Shyish the underworld. Like, that’s part of their "bullshit", as ypu put it. If they just become continents, they lose what makes a lot of their inherent cool factor on a conceptual premise level.>The whole deal with Slaanesh’s chains each needing their own unique paradoxical requirement to break them might end up just getting nowhere, because if Hysh and Ulgu no longer orbit each other and sustain Uhl-Gysh, then Slaanesh will just break out.Really, my main gripe with Last World is that I like the wacky cosmology of current AoS. Makes you feel like you’re really living through ancient mythology made literal. It’s the kind of high-concept nonsense that I adore, outside of adaptations of irl Norse mythology, it’s something no other high fantasy setting really does. I also fear that the change of tone towards grimdark might end up too pronounced. AoS as a genuinely hopeful setting with straightforward good heroes is part of the charm for me as well. I don’t want AoS to just become "40k but it’s a renaissance fair", otherwise I’d go to WHFB and The Old World.
Looking of getting into this. I play Custodes in 40k, is there anything similar in AoS? Basically elite infantry with super high stats but also super high point cost
>>98740194third edition battletome cities of sigmar page 50 middle of the page.
>>98740275Mawtribes
>>98740275Maw tribes, gargants, (in a world where gw can do them right) stormcast, chaos warriors.
>>98740275Troggoths
>>98740313Monkey girl character when>>98739950>>98740261Totally agreed, the realms are one of the best parts about the setting, the fact that they’re similar to DnD elemental realms but not as absolute makes them very charming and I especially like how travel between them is a fairly big undertaking with all that it entails. A planet combined with the different realms while the actual realms stay unchanged seems the best option.
>>98740261Yeah I've thought about the sun problem too. My guess is they bring back ignax but on a larger scale. Just having a regular sun would seem a bit dull now. As for slaanesh breaking free I think that's actually supposed to be happening.The grimdarkening, yeah, we'll see. I like aos' current thing (nobledark? Grimbright?) where the world is fucked but there's genuine forces of good instead of 40k's version where Brutus Genocidicus is technically the "good guy" because he's slightly less comically evil than the other factions. Aos' protagonist factions aren't perfect but they're very definitely "good". More like fantasy was than 40k.
>>98740275Probably an elite style STD army
>>9874044740k does have its genuinely good people, they’re just rare of course
>>98740447Yeah, I feel like people often overblow the “grimdarkening” of AoS. We have a LONG way to go before it gets actually grimdark.
>>98740710Some people in 40k are good but all major factions are different shades of evil.
pretty odd how soulblight dont have any necromancers. Really curious if they're gonna do something with the zombie necrophiliacs in the future. They dont even have a mounted sorcerer.
>Go to Target to see if they have Heroes models (they do and I got the scalie & tooter)>Long ass line outside the target on a california midday>Ask one of them what the line's for>"We're waiting for Pokemon cards">mfw
>>98741030I thought that all the scalpoids dropped pokemon (For the next week) because the pokemon company decided to do the most heinous thing possible: Print enough of a celebration set to meet expected demand
>>98741020
>>98741171>comes with a square base Yeah not for long buddy.
>>98740859I don’t know as someone who’s been reading since the first realmgates era novels and campaigns. There’s a distinct tone difference. Everything is pretty jaded in comparison and GW pretty much went in the worst directions with certain plots or characters. not to mention how they legit cannot stop beating people over the head with sigmar is totally not a good guy, “HEY! DID YOU HEAR ME?! I SAID SIGMAR IS NOT GOOD!” Also why are they leaning into the elf racism thing again? Doing it once in WFB and then 40k and then the Old World wasn’t enough?
>>98741219Did they take Callis‘ Aelf tomb raider gf from him I haven’t read the new book yet
>>98741208it hasn't been coming with a square base for a while now
>>98741219Right. There’s a clear tone shift but it’s not near the levels of grimdark of “everything fucking sucks, existing is misery, and even sometimes death isn’t enough to escape the suffering”. There’s still an abundance of heroics and nobility or people acting in the best interest of someone besides themselves or a god.
>>98741238The new novel doesn't reference any of the cast members or plot points from previous stories.
>>98741280RIP
>>98740261GW been going hard for grimdark since 3rd edition, and it's really appearant in 4th edition art and sculpts. I think this boat is long since sailed.
>>98738604is this post battle-scroll?
>>98741370Yes.
>>98734545the frustrating thing about this game is the refrences to naval or flying ship combat but no game mode to enable that. Some kinda..... thematic battlefield with mountains and giants striding through low hanging clouds, throwing rocks at Kharadron airships as they move to attack. Yeah. Sexy.
Question Does anyone know if the soul gems that helsmiths have for their spears and the blunderbusses are any bigger or smaller than a human skull?
>>98734690His videos feel like Billy Mays commercials now instead of actual painting or modeling videos kek
>>98735093>guys I'm new>what 120 dollar army starter set should I blow my money on
>>98741289It was basically the same with Neave. No idea why they went in that direction with those specific characters, but they did.
>>98735342>the world is endingLords of the End timesBut if GW is really killing AoS and then remaking it as The Last World they should do a badass end event with new modelarinos.
>>98741538they are, but nothing as big as important was for fantasy
>>98741594>they are>t. My ass
>>98741280Why are you lying?
>>98741594They aren't. It'll be like Gathering Storm in 40k. Some supposedly big stuff will happen to change the status quo but it won't actually change. The galaxy might be split in half by a massive warpstorm with one part being cut off from the other, but it doesn't matter, because every character that needs to cross can do this.
last night i showed my friend some of the night haunt models since he was asking about warhammer and wanted to see what the undead armies were, told him what spearhead was and now he wants to finally give table top a tryhe also sent me a message this morning asking how hard is nagash to paint since he was browsing through the grand death models all night, and after i sent him a picture of my nagash he said he said if the game is even the slightest bit fun he wants to buy a full army just to buy nagash
>>98741732Your friend has better taste than most of this thread.
>>98741525yes? Not all of us are poors.
>>98738604I thought NH were trash tho
>>98741693>realms get merged together into one world>azyr is still an inaccessible floating continent where grungni lives forging new stormhosts
>>9874205149% win rate, looks like there is a recent winning list on woehammer
>>987421187 drops?! Damn
>>98741525>new combat patrols are already 175 MSRPI'm not looking forward to the ineivetable AoS price hikes. This hobby is barely affordable buying second hand or getting 3d prints as is.
>>98741219>“HEY! DID YOU HEAR ME?! I SAID SIGMAR IS NOT GOOD!” This is what bothers me the most desu. I don’t know if it’s the way they’re going about it or the fact that it comes off like just more God-Emperor shit I don’t know but I really hate it
>>98741219Why’d you separate WFB and TOW? Tow is a prequel for wfb ofc the elf racism would be present there too
Models?
>>98742652Model.Wish I could've gotten more done today, but I was out all day, then when I sat down at the desk the power decided to go out for an hour and a half and then continue to flicker off and on for another half hour. Seems to be stable now.
>>98742652Haven’t done any models lately cause I’ve been wanting to work on my building. Deciding on how to do the windows currently, then will use a basing texture paint for the wall plaster
>>98742818Fuckin damn thats smooth as hell. >>98742827Thats cool, how'd you manage to make the tiles? You just cut them up and glued em on there?
what color is clan skryre armor pieces? when i first painted my stormfiends i did like a weird mix of their green for any armor pieces but now that i have 20 stormvermin to paint i was debating on how to do all the armor
>>98742854The shingles? Yeah they’re just cut strips from the thin cardboard of like cereal boxes
did rootkings ever have rules or were they just a lore blurb way back when
>>98742652finally getting to work on my warpswarm box
>>98741732such is his power
>>98742652Sure, here's the last one I finished
>>98742129It's like 5 real drops and then two Guardian of Souls taken as Auxiliary units for reasons I don't play enough night haunt to know. >>98742652Putting stuff together. 5 chosen, Brands oath bound, a Tolgar Split Eye (darkoath chieftain), and most of a wilderfiend.
>>98743363Theoretically the goal is to do an army inspired by this paintjob
>>98742893no, they were nothing
>>98742818>dat proportionsIs that supposed to be a kid?
>>98743471Are they that weird? I don't see it
>>98743482Stag/GoatHelmetShieldSword
>>98740027According to the lore the Everspring in Darkwater makes super Aqua Ghyranis that stops aging entirely as long as you keep drinking it unlike normal Aqua Ghyranis that just slows it
>>98743491those sure are words, yeah
>>98743491Are you having a stroke?
>>98742652
>>98743513>>98743526Nice denial.
>>98743575Are you the horse autist? I need to check something with my bingo card.
>>98743613>Are you the horse autist?Have no idea who are you talking about.I've pointed out the details which makes rider look like a kid, not grown person,
>>98743656This checks the ESL part of the bingo card.Please continue.
>>98743664>still no argument
>>98743667yeah, cry me the gange
He means the equipment and ride are too large for the guy, but he's a low functioning autist so he can't say it clearly
>>98743677That's a lot of projecting from GW internet defense force
>>98743696I still don't see it. The mount is big but that doesn't make him look like a baby. And his weapon is a two-handed sword
>>98743709Right I forgot it's a Warrior spec into Fury and for some reasons uses shield instead of second two-handed weapon,
I want the turd world off the internet.
>>98743713No problem. Vanari lord on foot has the same weapon
>>98743737>Vanari lord on foot has the same weaponAnd..?
>>98743739It should be easier to see that this weapon is a two-handed sword on an infantry hero>>98743737
>>98743749And so..?
>>98743751When you realise that the weapon is so long because it is supposed to be grabbed with two hands, it changes how you see the model
>>98743779If weapon supposed to be grabbed with two hands why second hands holds a tower-shield and how it explains oversized mount and helmet?General composition looks like a kid who instantly grabbed biggest toys in the store.
>>98743781Learn english and find out in a book!
>>98743781Welcome to the epic fantasy genre. Check your reality at the door.
>>98743785>Welcome to the epic fantasy genre.Lmao
>>98743782>and find out in a book!Any suggestions-advices which book I should pick?
>>98742652WIP of an advanced batch, the highlighting is going to take forever
>>98743793
>>98743785>Welcome to the epic fantasy genre.
>>98743812I don't mind them but those weapons look just like stormcast's
>>98743819wait until you find out who makes those
>>98743809Thank you
>>98743825Oh, right
>>98743812Yeah they fall flat as dwarf halberds which would have been easy, just put a hammer or pick on one side and axe on the other.
>>98743819all weapons do
>>98742827Needs more beams tbhon, the frames had very narrow spaces for wattle and daub Looks good just saying if you're curious about accuracy
>>98743797But the end result is worth it
>>98743883That one doesn't.
>>98743785>>98743812the WoW-ification of warhammer/aos has been a disaster
>>98743883Such grotesque and crude artifice! It is an insult to the term 'weapon' naught but a bludgeon compare to our mastercrafts.
>>98743508Wonder what it tastes like>>98743677>>98743721Lol
>>98743912I miss when FEC were delusional about their equipment, using bones as swords, instead of using swords as swords
>>98738604>gsg in second to last tierYea that tracks>aos team polandI thought aos was anathema to the polish spirit? These must be danzigers.
>>98740261The cosmology of AoS isn't hard, literally just say 'its like they are on seperate planets, and magic gates connect the different planets.'For more intelligent people, you just say 'its like the Norse mythology with the 9 realms.'The kind of people who have 'difficulty' imagining this shit are the sort of people who were never going to buy the product anyway, smashing it all into one world isn't going to change anything.That's it.
>>98743491The "goat" is a pretty massive fantasy creatureAs for the weapons etc welcome to warhammer anon
>>98744436As the poster of the mini, I should also inform that the sword he’s wielding is not the weapon that build usually carries. He has a long lance and his large shield I assume is because he’s more of a “jouster”. I just made some changes to personalize him because I prefer that posing over the generic build. I would’ve liked to use the generic’s shield which is much smaller but it’s a completely different assembly for no reason. Also sorry for swelling up the horse autists brain.
>>98744436>As for the weapons etc welcome to warhammer anonNah thanks, I grew out of World of Warcraft and capeshit. Have a nice day.
>>98744483>He has a long lance and his large shield I assume is because he’s more of a “jouster”.That's not how jousting works paypig.
>>98744516If you work those low caste indian braincells slightly more than you work your bathroom I'm sure you can find an answer as to why anon wrote "jouster" and not jouster.
>>98744532>joke on you it wasn't supposed to workOkay fine.
>>98743892Not super concerned about accuracy but I’ll look up some more references. I’m still able to add more if I need to
>>98744483wow this model is great, I don't think I've ever looked too hard at it.
>>98744546try again
>>98742157NTA but they could’ve simply just not have done that. Just because you end racist doesn’t mean you have to start. Is it an identity thing for Warhammer or something?
The lumineth general on steed looks like a kid FROM THAT SPECIFIC ANGLE because the riders legs are in foreshortened and appear to be mostly just shin. In real life this mini looks good, and I don't even like elves. >>98738604Several mistakes here, if it's based purely on competitive win rate. Tzeentch is consistently S tier and wins A LOT. S2D is a middling army and should go down a tier. Nighthaunt has a 49% win rate and doesnt deserve more than A tier, probably B tier.
>>98744657I figure the racism comes from humans that likely never see non humans, and usually when they do it’s the non human trying to eat them. The exception to this are the dwarfs which the sigmar religion likes. As for between the dwarfs and elves, it stems back to the War of the Beard thousands of years prior to both settings and lasted up until the end
>>98738604>>987446662/2Lot of issues with their rankings actually, mostly that their rankings are not corroborated by IRL tournament results. DoK as not-S tier is also really off base. FS confirmed to be an over performer IRL, although the people who play it are typically very dedicated to that faction. Tier lists are always so bleh for this reason, either they're full of these 'hot takes' or they're just rehashing data.
>>98744676No I know all of that I mean they didn’t have to lean into it and could’ve easily said “teclis and the elves decided to stick around and do foreign exchange frotting with humans after setting up the colleges but humans have short memories and elves are dicks with long ones” or some stupid shit
>>98744686As always, there's generally a 15% win rate difference between the most and least competitive formations which further water down this already kind of lukewarm tier list
Any OGs around, btw?
>>98742652I haven't picked up a brush in at least couple months...
>>98744666>>98744676I doubt it was based on tournament winrate and more on their opinions as professional players.Winrates are influanced by popularity of the army or its main strength being something easily played around by more seasoned tournament players.
the new model of the month thingBasically, it's a choice of four AoS or four 40k minis. Seems you have to paint it in the store as well>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/jvquigqz/all-new-in-store-offer-this-october/
>>98744828On the other hand, Aos Poland doesn't win any World tournaments so they might be just wrong
>>98744843I am not painting a fucking steelhelm in a store
>>98744843They will be giving out superior, non-Dominion gutrippaz? That's nice
>>98744857you are and you are never going to break eye contact with the redshirt while you do, and also you're only going to breathe from your mouth, and paint the model the wrong colours
Any sign of HoS, OMT, or SoB battletome scans?
>>98744843>Seems you have to paint it in the store as wellThat was always the case, you can't just walk in and get one.
>>98744934It really depends on your local redshirt. I’ve never had to even assemble mine in store. They just gave me the sprue in a little box.
>>98744733How O we talking? I recognize that style.
>>98744924>>98744924Ogor scan dropped 2 weeks agohttps://gofile.io/d/DLR9gnejNo sign of HoS or SoB, to early for a latter and tought luck about the former. Some anon wanted to buy and scan it, so maybe he will drop it soon
>>98744843yeah seems like the leak was correctmight pick up the skelly honestly as I want to try out a scheme for a deathrattle armyby the way anyone here test out the new paints yet? apparently they have em in some stores to try out
>>98744843Hun. Wonder why they’re doing an Ulgu coin
Finally a faction I can relate to
>>98745208>not racist, I just hate em
>>98745208made me giggle ngl.
>>98745208Based
>>98745208"Them spooks are alright" - James Workshop 2026
>>987449492021? >>98744828 Out of curiosity - how closely did you look at the pic? Woehammer specifically uses metrics like player experience, attempts to calculate a rough ELO of more experienced players, and specifically tracks which armies are most popular with first time GT goers. I understand we need to be cautious about sample size, but these guys are the only ones aggregating hundreds of games worldwide with any semblance of controlling the variables.
>>98745208>them spooksGEEEEG
>>98744436There’s something about this that’s very silly but cool at the same time.
>>98745284Then yeah, I’m here. 2019ish. I reckon.
>>98745208>Nighthaunt - Sons of Behemat
>>98745284I understand that this is not just pure winrate but some think you can't just measure. For example, a faction popular at higher level will generate new tactics quicker than something niche but opponents will be more likely to come up with something on a fly by having experience with fighting against that faction. If woehammer wanted to achieve what, from my understanding, aos Poland wanted to achieve, they would have to look only at seasoned players and their matches. I doubt that it would have wideo appeal and be more useful for average player and I doubt that AoSP wanted to contend with aggregated data provided by tournament stats. But again, maybe they did and maybe they are wrong
>>98745364Nice. Any chance id recognize your dudes?
>>98745444Purple Deepkin and >>98742818.
>>98745430Have you ever looked at the woehammer metagame stats articles because they spend like 70% of each article talking about how player skill is a confounding variable they try to control for. They attempt this in multiple ways including stratifying the prior tournament experience of people attending these GTs.Also, again, does AoS Poland even win enough for you to say their analysis is representative of the top players? Idk. For example, Tzeentch has one of the highest levels of player experience AND one of the highest win rates, so even at face value their opinion doesn't corroborate to what top players are actually bringing to these events.
If they just gave the slaanesh archers the death rattle treatment I would finally pick the army up…
>>98745470>>98744846As I said, they are not top of the top (more in the middle), so whatever you respect their opinion or not is up to you. What I was talking about was the approach and goal of it and how they might differ
>>98745593That's a fair point to make.
Why doesn't /aosg have a collage? Surely the 2nd most popular war game of all time should be able to muster one?
We're giving Ossiarchs lips
>>98745953Old news pal
>>98745496what, like 20 a box? an update that fixes their connections?
>>98745953Kiss of death
>>98746123The latter. The models seem fragile to put together.
>>98745953we can only hope ossiarchs get a mommytarch since katakros's strategic genius and hype amounted to him start a land war in chaosia
>>98745953They’re so cool bros…
what did she mean by this?why does she want to me kragnos again so badly?
>>98746181NTA. They’re not. They’re so specifically sliced up on the sprue it’s hard to mess up assembling them. I think the worst part was the unit leader’s outstretched arm because that was connecting a shoulder to the arm.
>>98746215because kroak used her as bait and punching bag for kragnos to drop him elsewhere, but she can't do shit against lizards so she has to get mad at kraggy
>>98746246Remember that plan she had to achieve godhood by milking saurus blood that lasted 5 seconds?
>>98745953That's not GW art.I don't think Ralph Horley has ever done work for GW
>>98746425Alex Horley*I always mistake him for Ralph Horsley, even though they have different styles, and Horsley got his start at GW
>>98745953always have beenossiarchs arent simple animated undead. they are artisan sculpted statues made from bone dust and animated with woven souls.
>>98746642So badass….
>>98746642still no bone boobs, nagash must be gay
>>98746693i mean look at the boneana hammock, do you really have to ask?
>>98746708I can give the benefit of the doubt and accept giving one of your favourite bros a boner to be proud of as no homobut no boobs is the linegetting the ghost blowjob on the side doesn't change it either
>>98745953Yes?They're sculptures with bone noses and bone hair, bone lips are nothing special
could mr. bones defeat nagash
>>98746215When has Khaine ever made good decisions not fueled by murderous rampages Scratch that. When has Khaine EVER made a good decision?????
Here you go nighthaunt fagsYour once annual "gw acknowledges you exist"
>>98746642His shield is so kino
>>98745953The golden fake nose is unsettling.>>98746642Boner golems
>>98747066I'll wager it's only 2-4 pages of the same old studio armies.and then the rest is the usual crummy WD.
>>98746693the dance of death will always overcome the dance of life. Young, fertile and full of breast reduced to a skeleton. Creating bosoms would remind the dead of life, and what they have lost, fat brown titties.
>>98747165W-why are they brown
>>98747198Because of private equity funds investment an meddling.
>>98747198To satisfy his Big White Bone
>>98746816They say that Nagash is the only person to have ever gotten off of Mr Bones' Wild Ride.SUCH IS THE POWER OF NAGASH!
>>98747247>Blackrock owns nagash?>It thought it was the other way around, I mean he made a whole pyramid out of the stuff!
>>98747489Eh, it's all a pyramid scheme
>>98747277>>98747489Best posts in months holy kek
>>98747489Oh you
>>98742875dirty (nuln wash) or rusty works for me
>>98747066Nighthaunt are so cool brosThey deserve a unit that's not just bedsheet + hand weaponDon't get me wrong I like bedsheet + handweapon, but it would help with visual diversity
Is SBG a good army for a beginner.
>>98747929>>98747929>>98747929Comfy tuesday night thread
>>98741007Pretty much yeah>>98735238Ah cool thanks
>>98735217Anon… the joke…
>>98734690I hate this dysgenic creature...
