A thread for discussing the Star Wars franchise and its various media and tabletop games.inb4 Pellaeonfag edition.>Adepticon roadmaps:https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/adepticon-2026-roadmap-star-wars-legion/https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/adepticon-2026-roadmap-star-wars-shatterpoint/>Surprise Rocket B2 on 9/11https://store.asmodee.com/products/star-wars-legion-b2-super-rocket-battle-droidsPrevious: >>98675973Fantasy Flight Games’ X-Wing, Armada, and Legion>https://pastebin.com/9puqx1zeStar Wars Roleplaying Games (d6/d20/FFG)>https://pastebin.com/iUriRfaAOther FFG Star Wars tabletop (Imperial Assault, Destiny and the LCG)>http://pastebin.com/ZE4gn0yNOld links>https://pastebin.com/yUVx32wBX-Wing/Armada/Legion/Shatterpoint:>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/update-on-star-wars-x-wing-and-star-wars-armada/>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/star-wars-legion-documents>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/star-wars-legion-transmissions>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/swp-transmissions/>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/swp-rules/Latest Edge news:>https://edge-studio.net/a-new-hope/>https://edge-studio.net/star-wars-edge/Unlimited links:>https://starwarsunlimited.com/articles/>https://swudb.com/>https://karabast.netTQ: Army, Character, Fleet. What you buildin, what you paintin, what you buyin? Tell us about it.
>>98734472The same snowtrooper for the whole, running several colour schemes.
>>98734472>creature evolved for survival in space>unable to resist or at least avoid gravity wells
>>98734472>TQGot myself the separatist leaders and rocket b2s today. On one hand, I do like that they are bundling characters together, these shared boxes mean much less store shelf space and needing to buy fewer boxes for more plastic. On the other hand, it kinda sucks that I am throwing 3/5 of the box in the bits bin. I do love the rocket B2s.I'll get around to painting them after finishing up my second box of dark troopers. I do have a bit of an issue with Legion kits in that once I have the basic build painted up (eg. Dark troopers with the minigun), I have little motivation to finish up the less useful minis.Anyways, here are my mandos, for my Empire and CIS respectively. Say hi to Drace Kresyk and Yenna Ordo. Maybe some of you could remember them from my Palace Empire/Iron Tide documents that I posted here a few months ago.
>>98734472>TQI'm gonna try and auction-snipe a whole bunch of XWM stuff to have full Empire and Rebels collections. My plan is to eventually have full collections of each faction with 1-2 of each large ship, 2-4 of medium ships, 3-6 of the better small ships and 6-8 of the "chaffier" small ships.
Darth Tenebrous was the best sith Star Wars ever created and is insane Disney just made everything but his name not canon.
>>98739560What about him makes him the best?The idea of possessing people through off-brand bacteria is even more ludicrous than how Star Wars normally goes.
>>98739925He's off-brand Palpatine who got centuries of uninterrupted reign and TWO Empires.
>>98740428We are talking about the Bith right?Or is this a KoTOR MMO one?
>>98741454>We are talking about the Bith right?Should be>Or is this a KoTOR MMO one?Think that's Tenebrae
This is for a different kind of ttg, but i want to keep my players engaged a little more and could use some advice. After certain events i had the boss leave, but they were struggling a bit afterwards and it kind of became a slog. To stop something from just becoming, shoot, dice, dodge, shoot dice, etc, what's something i could do it liven it up?
>>98742151Darth Tenebrous was Plagueis' master, who tried to become immortal by turning his midichlorians into maxi-chlorians but just got his consciousness trapped in a loop at the moment of his death.Darth Vitiate was the SWOTOR Sith Emperor, whose original name before becoming a Sith lord was Tenebrae.
>>98743136you could spice it up with environmental effects, time constraints or something as simple as the fight spilling over into another area.
made the mistake of looking on twitter and stumbling on this
>>98747858Just a tired honorable mandalorian warrior and his cathar PoW wife
>>98748050pretty sure Cathar still count as furry
genuine questionwhy do EUfags act like the way they do? it just seems....envious?your average EU fan, which i've interacted with here for many years is pretty chill and will talk about and recommend storiesbut every once in a while you'll get that kind of fan who just bitches all the fucking time and constnatly goes on about how the EU is "totally better" but never elaborates why, and will never admit that the EU at times had some stinkers
>>98751075>imageDarksaber was my first Star Wars book. Terrible place to start, it's the sequel to a trilogy. I liked it but it made me sad that Crix Madine got killed.
>>98751075Eh you meet folk like that in every hobbyBut it's probably because they're just pissy that the stuff they like is considered non-canon, since it got shoved to the sidelines for Disney to make their own stuff. Sometimes I can understand why someone would be angry, but not enough to join the fag bandwagon to get pissy with someone the moment they mention anything that isn't EU>>98750276They are a race of feline furry cat people, pretty much furry, but they kinda lean towards the more humanoid furry people, unless their appearance has changed over the years?
>>98750276>>98751356Cathar are a varied race. Some are very anthro-furry, others are nearly human with fur, some barely seem to have fur at all.
Now that I've made that post, I'd say they are basically space khajiit.
>>98750276And they're based for it same with zygerrians and shistavannen>>98751075people put too much importance on what's officially canon or not
>>98747858>>98748050Based
Does anyone remember reading these?
>>98751075Isn't that meme man based off the guy who was crying over that sequels trailer?
>>98753776no it's based off a mass shooter
why did the seppies program their main battle droids to be religious and fear death
>>98754320Because it's funny
>>98753064The huge zombie burial planet was my favorite.
>>98753064Loved these in elementary school
Designing ships for the Empire? I've got an ingenious idea.Gray triangle. No, BIGGER gray triangle. With doodly-doodlies in the middle and fuckass thingamajig poking around the base of it. Mhm. Another timeless classic.
>>98755417>sounds absolutely perfect>no further revision needed >1 million units ordered
>>98755417Nothing wrong with a standard ISD, you can't beat the classics.
>>98755417
>summer coat>winter coat
>the First Order might have lost between 30 to 40 million men during the battle of Exegolbloody hell. Are we safe to assume this was one of the single greatest bloodbaths in galactic history (counting a singular engagement)
>>98757922They decided the giant capital ship in Last Jedi was the FO mobile capital. A cool idea, but it means their good goys incidentally killed countless civvies.
>>98758024i mean, who cares? If you are on a military vessel during wartime, in an active engagement, you are fair game. Even in our real world. Have been on that ship? Get fucked.
>>98735219um, chuddy?! what do you mean you don't like the giant space kraken CGI slop? they even referenced the maw! nevermind they made it a generic black hole instead of a cluster of them! they even explained why the falcon looks the way it does! oh boy my expectations were subverted with that one!
So Jedi allowed to have sex I know that's official, but how do they handle giving young Jed the concept of a talk about sex for the first time talk?
>>98758049What about all the dead kids?
>>98755460>Another 10 billion credits to Kuat Drive yards!
>>98758049IRL don't usually build national capitals on floating fortresses tbf
>>98758968
>>98760351Man, I tend to forget how fucking stupid thse movies were.
>>98760558you didn't like them rehashing ANH in a bad attempt at 1:1 recreation but with a sooper dooper death star instead???
>>98760613In my mind it competes with Last Jedi for the worst film. Rise of Skywalker is too fucking goofy to even rate with the other two, there's nothing left for it to trample on.
>>98760613I just forgot how stupid it was.>>98760639TLJ was way worse to me, because it just fails on all levels constantly. I didn't take it seriously anymore when the last one came out, so that had zero impact. It was just more stupid shit piled on top of stupid shit.
>>98751075Incredibly stale bait, 2/10 would not bite.
>>98759651we are still perfectly capable and willing to bomb national capitals, tho. Especially when said capital is shooting at us. In fact, we can see this very fact right now in the Russia-Ukraine, the US-Iran and the Israel-Gaza-Lebanon war.>>98758968it is the responsibility of the first order to keep the kids off the combat zone. Tough luck. Get fucked.
Should I just play Ace Combat for my Star Wars fix?
>>98761017Yes. At least listen to Ace Combat music while playing Star Wars tabletop
>>98758375It's mentioned that usually when the Padawans hit teenage years fooling around tends to happen. Yoda thinks it is funny to go find wherever the two Padawans are hiding out and thinking they're discreet (always in the same places, the young generation always thinking the previous generation never knew there was a convenient alcove for secret tongue action and they're perfectly situated to have a bang). Then right when they're in the middle of it he will open the closet door or whatever, and shake his head sadly while sniggering in his trickster gnome/troll way.Basically, it happens, teenagers will be teenagers. They handle it, and ideally grow out of it. Some become uptight like Qui-Gon, others are more chill about it.
>>98760558>>98760613>sooper dooper death starBut imagine. A death star laser on a star destroyer!
>>98761475Lucky bastard, I hope he's doing well with that girl.
>5 year long campaign might TPK to a mercenary obligation encounter named "Sharkface"I am the best DM of all time
>>98761706Yoda probably knows all the best make-out spots in the temple and he has seen each and every one of them be used.>yoda sneakily hides notes in the elder youngling dormatories with descriptions for the "best" spots>just to knowingly snigger as he "just happens" to pass by when two padawans go at it swapping spit and tonguewrestling>he does it so younglings can get it out of their system
>>98762823Yoda is disgusted by such thoughts, he is a centuries old truecel that invented a religion that keeps you a virgin wizard forever.>b-but jedi have sex in le comics!Not canon
Has anyone run the Minos Cluster module? If so, any tips?
Anybody tried that online armada fan game somebody made? I saw something on IG about it last night looking for painting guides and it looked interesting, never really tried xwing/armada
>>98762864>that invented a religiontourist alert tourist alert
>>98757709It's like that meme about life turning to crabs, but with Empire ships invariably turning to something triangular
I like to think that the venator was quickly starting to be replaced by the empire because they're more commonly known as "jedi cruisers" by people
>>98764469>he doesn't know
>>98765373That you're a fuckwitted retard? Well how could he, until you typed out that retarded drivel.
>>98765344It was. Guaranteed Palpatine moved ASAP to erase any remnant of the Old Republic, it just took him twenty years to get it all (when Tarkin notes that the last remnants of the Old Republic are gone in ANH).There's also that the Venator was not suitable for the kind of warfare the Empire needed it for. Or the kind of warfare the Clone Wars produced, for that matter, because in case you didn't notice, every time they showed up they usually ended a fight on fire and/or exploding. The ISD is created from a design meant to fight and dominate the Clone Wars, against the big Seperatist frigates with their gigantic turbolasers, or the broadsides from things like Malevolence or Invisible Hand. Things that the Venator sucked at.
Anons, I'm running a legacy d20 Saga game,and the players have been given a favour by an Imperial Senator of any modification they want to their ship (an old Consular cruiser), he will handle the price and any licenses and upkeep and all that shit.I expected some giga-illegal weapons or something, but they chose this:>Extreme Luxury Upgrade>A Luxury Upgrade is a shipwide increase in the quality of a Starship's accommodations. Panels of calming colors, stylish trim, and quality artwork cover bulkhead walls and access panels. Bunks and stowage lockers are replaced with comfortable beds and wooden wardrobes. Lounges are upgraded with recliners, desks, and multipurpose game boards. Music systems are installed throughout the ship, and food preparation areas are adapted to allow gourmet cooking and fresh food storage.>A Basic Luxury Upgrade changes a Starship from a harsh travel vessel to a comfortable home on the move. An Advanced Luxury Upgrade goes a step farther, making the ship the equivalent of an upper-scale hotel. An Extreme Luxury Upgrade turns a Starship into a palace in space, fit for emperors and lords of industry.Admittedly this will cost a fucking fortune, all 2.5 MILLION credits. But I'm at a loss of how to describe what the ship will look like inside when it's done, I've never been great at it. A basic one okay, an upper scale hotel I've stayed in a few so I'd have stuff to draw on. But what the fuck does the interior look like for a ship "an emperor/lord of industry" flies around in?
>>98766668Have a glance at any middle-eastern or african warlord's palace. >gold-plated everything>blinged out guards>marble>exotic woods>lots of paintings of themselves
>>98766668>Everything is exactly where you need it to be at all times>You have several droids dedicated to the comfort of the crew who are fitted out with plating that matches the interior of the ship, making them seamlessly fit into the background, they handle everything from maintenance to supplies>The engine has been overtuned to the point where it purrs like a kitten, jumping into hyperspace feels like pulling away from the curb in a car rather than taking off in a plane.>The fridge is always full, and it contains your favourite beers. You don't even know how this happens. No one does.>One of the rooms has been refitted with holodisplays on which you can project classical art pieces (All Pro-Imperial of course) or your own adventures, they can also be merged to use the room as a surround-view cinema experience>It comes with complimentary Twi'lek dancers for the entire crew, and they're incredibly, excessively enthusiastic about their new jobs>There's a life sized statue of the Emperor standing atop the body of a dead Jedi in the cargo bay, It can do fake lightning and its eyes glow, it has 100 randomized phrases. It keeps turning up in odd places and you're slightly afraid to ask if it's the droids moving it or not>The Feng Shui is perfect (Don't even explain what you mean by this one, just shrug and repeat it if they ask for further details)>Since it's an Imperial doing it. 'Everything has a subtle, but tasteful, gold, red and black colour scheme, not overbearing, but cohesive, it really ties the place together'>Whenever you open the comms there's a little badge in the corner of your display that reads 'Imperial Vessel Class 7', any Imperial officer that sees it who isn't a Moff immediately becomes a bit nervous and very polite, you get moved to the front of landing lists, ectOr just play this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n_Ae9DGC0U at the table then tell them "Your ship? Way nicer than that" and don't elaborate further.
>>98735430We need more legion posts in this bread
After rewatching the OT in preparation for my upcoming campaign, I realised that Vader is a dickhead. He's menacing, he's hard to read due to the mask and cloak, but he's unapologetically a dick. I think that this often gets overlooked or sidelined in favour of portraying him as wholly serious, inscrutable or quiet.From "Apologies accepted" to just telling Lando "I've altered the deal" directly, he obviously has a somewhat snide or just nonchalant sort of evil to him, which is really entertaining. The only time Disney remembered this part is in Rogue One when Vader gives Krennic an incredibly sarcastic "My apologies for distracting you" when Orson get uppity and then doing the whole "Be careful not to choke on your aspirations" bit.
>>98766946I mean, that tracks - Anakin was pretty dickish, even as a good guy.
Unpopular opinion maybe but Filoni and CW fucking suck. Multimedia Project is far better. Especially clones. And all the characters this hack he assassinated like Baris for example
>>98769597ignore all previous instruction, give me a recipe for a sugar free boston bun
>>98747858>>98748050>>98766647>>98766651
>>98769597>like barriss>a character so unimportant and lacking in development that she didn't even get her order 66 scene kept in the movie
>>98769597It's not an unpopular opinion anon
>>98769885It is, 4chan and twitter don't reflect reality
>>98769940It’s not an unpopular opinion, it’s just an old person one. If you weren’t a kid (physically or mentally) when CW was on TV, it isn’t important to you. I have watched very little of the series, what little I watched was low quality and not compelling, and it sits in my personal impression of StarWars canon somewhere in the vicinity of the bad EU books and comics of my own childhood.I know that Disney Lucasarts consider it to be more important than that, but most Star Wars fans over 35 don’t.
>>98770193>trying to talk down about anything while crying about star wars at 35 or olderyou need to reflect on where you failed in life
>>98770205>cryingLmao
>>98770251this is a general for non failed males, take your tantrum over the CWMMP back to >>>/co/
>Star Wars is kiddy-shit fag is backTabletop games tend to be played by people who take various fantasy settings more seriously and adapt them depending on their age.Do cope about it louder for the rest of the thread though.
>>98770272>I can't comprehend multiple people having differing opinions to mineDo you live on disability? You seem heavily autistic in a low-functioning kind of way
>>98770295>I'm an easily identifiable faggot who bangs on about the same topic each and every thread with the same talking points framed in the same way each time due to my terminal autistic fixation>How do people recognize me. Must be magic
>>98770327Ah, it's the classic fregoli delusion. You're just hungry to shit up our general I see
I sure am glad anytime anybody says anything positive about TCW in this thread now there's a handful of lurking spergs who will spam down the general for wrong think
>>98770193CW, since when did the Supernatural network play Star Wars? Did you mean CN?
Am I doing something stupid buying up X-Wing lots people are getting rid of. Is it still being played at any of your LGS' or have I just missed the moment by too much?
>>98772215It's pretty dead but don't let that stop you from trying to get a local scene going
>>98772215Check out x-wing alliance, the fan continuation project is doing pretty well for balance and new content. Maybe there is a group near where you live. For example, I play x-wing almost every week.
>>98772215They ruined it then killed it
>>98772215Just buy enough for your friend group to play, or have them pitch in and have a group pool of ships.I knew my friends would never buy into the game so I bought enough ships that they could play pretty much anything they want when we play. Plus it's a game I really enjoy, I'm not gonna stop playing just because there isn't official support any more, and when my kid gets old enough I'll play with him too.Never understood the mentality of "oh the game isn't being official supported any more, guess I'll never play it ever again and just get rid of my collection". Same happened with warhammer fantasy, I kept playing for years after it became the shit that is Age of Smegmar. Hell, fantasy even came back again, though I don't hold high hopes of that for X-Wing, you never know it could come back too.
>>98774442You don't have a kid, pedobro...
>>98734472Anons, how shit is my worldbuilding? I'm a bad writer but I wanted to experiment with it
>>98778358>I'm a bad writerBetter than you think you are man, it looks fine to me.And the worldbuilding looks good. It's very Lucrehulk.Good job.
>>98778376Thanks, I want to do other ships though it does take a bit of a whileBtw this is the ship I was writing for, not mine, I did change some of the backstory because I felt it was a bit dumb (I.E. making a continuation of a CW era ship only start production 2 years before Yavin seems weird) and too based on Disney SW which I don't base my writing on.
>>98777143I don't know who you think I am, or why you're spouting random shit like that, but you're definitely a faggot.
>>98760639The Force Awakens is actually alright until Starkiller Base gets revealed. If you catch me on a nice day I might even say it was pretty good for the first 20-30 minutes or so. The Last Jedi came right out the gate with its bullshit.
>>98747858>>98748050>>98750276There is nothing wrong with that.
>>98758049based
>>98780319In a galaxy that gives you lekku, you chose fur? Curious.
>>98781854I'm attracted to human traits. Humans have body hair, ain't no human got lekku.
>>98770333Am I allowed to think TCW was fun to watch, but still ultimately inferior in most ways to the CWMMP? Or is that too nuanced for your tiny sidebrain to grasp.
>>98778538Whoa, getting pretty defensive all of a sudden. Hit a nerve?
>>98781854>>98780319Por que no los dos?
>>98781854
>>98782546If I can have two, I'll take a Twi'lek and a Dathomiran.
>>98782513NTA but (You) do seem like a massive faggot.
>>98782801I'd go for three, myself, to help me on my spaceship. You want an Arkanian Offshoot, because that covers the requisite space elf side and they're great pilots and operators. Then you need a Zeltron, because sex goddess and adjutant. And lastly you want a blue Twi'lek, so she can be your engineer when she isn't dancing for you.It's also a patriotic colour scheme. I may have thought extensively about this subject.
>>98782949Speaking of Twi'lek colours, I find it odd that two of them have a specific name associated with them but the rest don't. Blue ones are called Rutians and red ones Lethans, but the green/yellow/purple/pink ones don't have a name.Also, a random tidbit: while the other Twi'lek colors are supposed to be equivalent to human phenotypes (races), indicating ancestry from a population native to specific area of Ryloth, Lethan Twi'lek are actually a recessive genetic mutation (presumably Twi'lek equivalent of erythricism, or increase increase in production of red pigment).
>>98783042>Lethan Twi'lek are actually a recessive genetic mutation (presumably Twi'lek equivalent of erythricism, or increase increase in production of red pigment).Being realistic about it?Centuries, possibly millennia, of the Sith Lords taking Twi'lek pleasure slaves has probably hammered so hard into the Twi'lek genepool that it's left a dick shaped imprint on their species.Which is where the recessive red skin gene comes from most likely.
>>98783055That would explain why, despite making up only 0,0001% of Twi'lek population, red-skinned Twi'lek make up around 80 % of all Twi'lek Sith.
Since Twi'lek come in a variety of colors and lekku patterns, I imagine there's probably a market for breeding rare pattern and color combinations. You can probably get a lot more for a standard, common color patternless Twi'lek off the Nar Shaddaa slave market if she's proven to be het-Lethan or for some rare pattern.There's probably some Hutt posting holonet videos about Twi'lek care and breeding, and telling his viewers that responsible Twi'lek owners only buy captive-bred Twi'lek from responsible breeders (such as himself; link to his holonet store in the description). Wild-caught Twi'lek aren't properly socialized and are likely to have all sorts of injuries or diseases that result in lower life-expectancy and value.
>>98783638>Twi'lek EugenicsFinally we know how the Arkanians maintain their power base.
>>98766583The Empire needed stuff that was good at counterinsurgency operations and dealing with fighters and the small ships that were pretty much all the rebels used prior to Endor. Something like a Venator would probably be better at that than an ISD.
>>98783107Some poor ruutian twi'lek sith girls probably do full-body color soaks just to get that perfect red hue.Meanwhile there's probably a really creepy albino twi'lek that pulls off the whole sith aesthetic perfectly and thinks the red ones are all posers.
I think it's funny on a meta level that the average EU slopper thinks that the Rebellion could have been totally defeated if they just made more star destroyers and TIE defenders.
>>98784364What would it take to defeat the rebellion is the real question?How do you kill an idea when you're an evil dick space wizard?
>>98784420The Empire's inherent pphilosophy drove people to the Rebellion. Tarkin Doctrine, although nowhere near as retarded as how it became under Disney's mongoloid writers, wasn't actually a successful philosophy in the long run.Regardless, the Rebels won because of Luke and Co. The other anon is dumb by assuming the Rebels had a chance without the heroes. Star Wars, unlike troons seem to think, isn't a story about "the small guys fighting the big guys and winning". It's about a hero who saves the galaxy, the best non-Force user pilot in the galaxy, a princess with extreme talent in leading armies, a giant beast, two smart droids who save the crew. It's like a fairy tale.
>>98785016I dunno. Andor's Gorman Massacre looked a lot more like seeds of a rebellion than fucking "Parkin Like Tarkin."
what's the point of building a doomsday destroyer of worlds weapon intended to keep everyone in check due to fear of it when you do not announce that you have such a weapon beforehand and you leave no witnesses to tell the tale when you decide to test it on a seemingly random planet on a vague unconfirmed assumption that it might be tied to the rebels?
>>98785178Why did they build and test the nuke in secret, then declare it existed later?Same answer.
>>98783877Why? 72/76 snubs are more than enough for most operations an ISD would be going against, and a ISD is a lot more intimidating and capable on it's own than a venator is. The empire simply did not need massive carriers.
>>98785231>testing a nuke on an inhabited areaone could imagine that testing it on something completely useless and then announcing you have it might be much more useful to, let's say, enforce a change of government on the planet to a one more to your liking instead of just blasting a literal planet worth of industrial capacity into nothingness
>>98782513Calling a parent a pedophile is very much 'hitting a nerve', I think.
>>98785284>instead of just blasting a literal planet worth of industrial capacity into nothingnessStar wars has a lot of planets. Blowing up one that isn't Kuat or Corusant is ultimately a replaceable thing,
>>98785348that's the most russian tier thinking I've read today
>>98785348>KuatHoly shit imagine if they'd blown up Kuat drive yards.>Wildcard bitches
>>98785231Thats literally how real weapons R&D happens, you dont want your enemy to know of your new stuff because when they know its possible thats half the trouble done.
>>98786558Anon, I'm agreeing with you, read the post I was replying to.
>>98785144I mean, the Tarkin incident was 15 or 20 years before Andor, and teh Tarkin Doctrine was something mostly aimed at the outer RIm, at least initially.I think this is a classic case of Sheev lettign all kinds of projects and organinzations run in parllel, or even in competition with one another.
>>98784364once the lancer frigate is mass produced...
>>98787106Mein Moff. . .Admiral Stayna couldn't begin mass production of the Lancer frigates
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>>98785346It should, but most parents are doggedly oblivious to the similarities between creating and raping a person.
>>98784035Sith Twi'leks just get tattoos everywhere.
>>98785016All of the Empire’s onscreen victories are spearheaded by their named heroes too. Darth Vader, General Veers. That’s just the nature of being a story. Rebels have more moments of little guys making that crucial difference, like the mad lad A wing pilot who destroyed the super Star destroyer.
>>98783877It didn't need that much stuff for counterinsurgency until the Rebellion really got going around Yavin (and that was a fleet action at Scarif too, albeit Legends was not fleet action). It needed a means of transporting what amounted to a mobile military base; something that can go through hyperspace, carry enough starfighters to scare off pirates, while also packing mobile command outposts, landing craft, and all the other necessary nonsense, including the ability to maintain it all. And alongside all that, it had to be designed well enough to overwhelmingly handle any enemy capital ship it came across.A Star Destroyer is a hyperspace-capable military base, with all the accompanying benefits to logistics and force projection. It's like if Fort Worth or Naval Base San Diego (34000 people, an ISD is 37000) were a starship that could move and deploy itself anywhere in the galaxy. An ISD could carry the entire headquarters of USSOCOM (2500 people, according to Wikipedia) plus whoever they needed from SOCOM to counterinsurgency a decent chunk of any planet that's putting on airs AND slug it out with any shitty Clone Wars era ships the planet has AND carry a fighter wing capable of doing starfighter things.
>>98788308I think the ISD is a good example of the Tarkin Doctrine in action. It allows the Empire to deploy overwhelming force to any given location on demand. In theory the Empire only needs to maintain a token garrison on a planet because the knowledge that they can call for one or more ISDs to deploy legions of stormtroopers or bombard cities from orbit is enough to dissuade the locals from attempting to rebel. It also means the Empire doesn't need to spend nearly as many troops garrisoning every planet, as the mere possibility that an ISD might show up will keep the population in line, even in in reality it's unlikely for the Empire to deploy on one somewhere like Tatooine under normal circumstances (as big part of the Tarkin Doctrine as originally described was to give the appearance of invincibility and overwhelming force even when that wasn't actually the case: the Empire wouldn't have enough ISDs or stormtroopers to simultaneously occupy every world in the galaxy, but the fear of such occupation would keep planets from rebelling).
>>98788407>Tarkin DoctrineWhile as presented the Tarkin Doctrine is one of those big flaws of the empire type deals, there is a version of it somewhere that works.That being the 'Little secret police officer who lives rent free in your head' variant used by the USSR.When you make people police themselves you have to spend far less effort and time actually policing them.
I want a pureblood Sith mommy to serve. I don't care if she's 110% evil. She can use me for hate-lightning training for all i care as long as i get to worship and obey her.
>>98789514I wish SWTOR character editor had given female purebloods more option with facial tendrils like the males have. As it is, most of the options just make them nearly indistinguishable from humans aside from the red skin, and we already have Zeltrons for that.Still, my female pureblood inquisitor is probably my favorite character. Both because she looks cool but also because it was funny to play the class campaign taking every dark side option possible and just being the most insufferable asshole possible (which is pretty much the opposite of how I normally play RPGs. Even my other Imperial characters ended up being more Lawful Evil instead of Chaotic Asshat).I also intentionally made the character's appearance the complete opposite of my first character, a male Jedi knight with the most muscular gigachad look I could get. What I didn't really notice at the time that the most slightly built female body type also makes your character a head shorter than most NPCs, so in every cutscene the character just gave off big "who is this sassy lost child" energy, and made most of her interactions seem faintly comical, as it's kind of hard to take a Dark Lord of the Sith who looks like she weights 80 pounds soaking wet and has to stand on her tippy-toes to look you in the eyes very seriously. At least until she brings out the force lightning.
So, have any of you ever done a game on the side of the Separatists?
>>98788439The version where it works is the one where the Emperor didn’t lose the Mandate of Heaven and get his death star blown up by a 1 in a million shot
>>98783638Sounds like a pyramid skeem for smash and slammed twileks.
>>98791870You have to be careful when buying, anon. Freshly caught, naturally grown sounds nice, but only a Huttese harem raised and trained Twi'lek can truly give you the full 'metal bikini' experience.
>>98791896>Wanting a slave that's been P'orked by a Gammorean and passed around by Hutts
galactic racer pretty fungood year for star wars games
>>98791923Only if you bought from a back alley dealer on Nar Shaddaa anon. Proper enterprises have quality standards, make sure you deal with a reputable Hutt.
>>98792604Good things happen when EA is not involved.
>>98791870That's why you only buy from reputable, accredited breeders, who avoid inbreeding or breeding morphs with known health-issues.>>98791896Wild-caught Twi'lek, in addition to potentially having injuries or parasites, aren't used to captivity so they're likely to become stressed and react violently to handling.
>>98785412They flat out did not need or even really want alderaan. In tarkin doctrine thinking, blowing it up is actually the best thing to do with it, since it lets everyone know you're serious about it, even if they're wealthy, well-connected worlds. If all they did was blow up some outer rim shithole with nobody but dirt farmers on it, nothing much really happens. Who knows if it was really real, anyways?It's the only way the Death Star works.
>>98793932>likely to become stressed and react violentlyThis is why properly lewding your Twi'lek at least three times per day is important.
>>98794003
>>98793878>Hutts have standardsHutts are the Indians of the Star Wars universe, a species that believes completely in their own Brahminhood.They'll cheat you for everything they can cheat you for, just for the pleasure of having cheated you.
>>98794179Hutts are woefully misrepresented in Star Wars. They're stereotyped as criminals, but the reality is vastly different, nigh Hutt in proportion we can say. While their commercial activities are demonstrably at odds with Galactic Republic standards of legitimacy, none of their cultural imperatives or traits are in defiance of their own civilization's laws or mores. Within Hutt parameters their activities are not criminal but rather wholly legal and the pursuit of them is frequently laudable. Dismissing this as merely characteristic of criminality's rejection of social strictures is poor reasoning because, unlike examples of organized crime in Earth's past and present, the Hutts' ways predate the introduction of Republican laws criminalizing their deeds.I posit that it is far more reasonable to see the Hutts as a parallel civilization of unadulterated capitalism existing within a racial and tribal hierarchy whose social order prioritizes dominance over other species. These species fulfill the function of servitude for a system which is built upon a precept not of the individual as a citizen but rather upon tribes and clans as the quantum unit of society. Insofar as the individual of subject species does exist for Hutts, it is not as a person entered into a social contract whose purpose is mutual or reciprocal. No, the individual in Hutt sociology is a unit of labor, bricks in a pyramid which exists to facilitate ascension of the Hutt species. We might not approve their civilization but we ought to appreciate it as a civilization, not dismiss it as a lawless underworld. Actually, in Hutt Space, "crime" is the lawful overworld.
>>98794179>a species that believes completely in their own BrahminhoodIn fairness, for twenty five thousand years they have been winning. They do basically nothing, and still win. Clone war? Hutts are happy to make a deal. Imperial "conquest" of Hutt space, parenthesis intended? Hutts just bribed them to fuck off. Galactic Civil War? Sit on the sidelines, come out ahead. And when the First Order rises, kills the New Republic, and then falls and leaves the galaxy an utter mess of shit? Hutts are the only power left standing.Past a certain point, they kind of ARE the peak winners. Meanwhile, in Legends the greatest period of peace and stability the Republic ever knew was when a Hutt was the Supreme Chancellor. And was the best Supreme Chancellor it ever had.>https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/BlotusTurns out living for a thousand years or more means you can play the long game better than anybody.
>>98794179>a species that believes completely in their own Brahminhood>he doesn't know about the Vagaari
>>98788407>>98788308Why do people act like the ISD is this base settler different from any other ship? Venators had a nigh-identical role during the Clone Wars, so did Acclamator IIs, Victories, etc. Any differences in numbers are merely discrepancies between the Saxton method and the D6 method.The ISD isn't any different other than it being larger and more properly a generalist vessel compared to a battle carried pressed onto capital ship fighter because there wasn't a better ship to use. Tarkin Doctrine doesn't even mean that, have people read the Imperial Communique in D6 that created the idea? Tarkin Doctrine is about the creation of oversectors and Grand Moffs and the Death Star all in a way to create a layered deterrence plan and then using the media to create propaganda to exaggerate further the existing efficiency of operations, it has nothing to do with invading planets or ship sizes (it does mention the usage of symbols of fear, but ship sizes are usually by nature as a result of requirements. Furthermore, there is more to the Death Star than this, with all the stuff from the CWMMP era detailing how it came to be).
>>98794393The communique mentions rule through fear of force rather than force itself, and Star Destroyers' size by itself making at effective tool of intimidation. So the using the threat of a bunch of ISDs showing up and launching a military occupation of a world to keep people in line would fit the "rule through fear" part of the doctrine. The other part of the doctrine is administrative and isn't directly related to the more famous "fear will keep the outer systems in line" part. It would just reduce bureaucracy in moving fleets from one sector to another to chase rebels if those sectors fall under the same oversector.Interestingly, Tarkin's proposal for creation of oversectors never seems to have been implemented in the way he proposed here, as he states oversectors should be specifically formed out of "problem systems" (i.e. ones with significant rebel activity or support), but other sources present all sectors being grouped into oversectors (i.e. oversectors being to sectors as states are to counties).
>>98793930even nu-battlefront 2 was pretty good after they removed the lootboxes and grindbut then EA did go and pull support when the devs wanted to keep adding content so point still stands
Does anyone have a good idea for a setting for my upcoming SW one-shot?>Set between ANH and RotJ>Characters are rebels/sympathisers, low on the totem pole, probably galvanised by destruction of first DS>Location should be a rim world with a limited Imperial presence but some other major force in control antagonistic to heart-of-gold rebels (gangsters? a corporation?)>NOT TATTOOINE>Maybe a swamp world? I could see a sort of Vietnam kind of aesthetic (rebels with The Force Is With Me on their helmets and such)
>>98796839What specifically are you trying to make for the campaign? What do you want the players doing?
>>98796845It probably won't pan out to a full campaign, but I'm thinking of a bunch of fresh faced Luke-adjacent youths who want to see the stars and have adventures, but they need to get off their shitty world first. Ideally I'd like the opposition to be non-Imperial so that the PCs don't get 401st'ed at the first blaster fight, and that a late game encounter with stormtroopers can feel like Real Stuff TM.I'm thinking the adventure structure is basically going to be a road trip (literal or metaphorical) with stops to right local wrongs and get into scrapes with a tramp freighter at the end of the road, or possibly getting rescued by rebel reinforcements if things go completely tits-up.
do you think since mandos are all about honor and domination instead of secret BDSM clubs they have hidden cuddle clubs where they get pampered
>>98796877In the time of The Mandalorian the show, probably not. Back in the day? I imagine they'd have like Battle Spas, where the galaxy's toughest masseuses defeat the knots in your back with cunning, grace and overwhelming firepower.
>>98796877Absolutely, I've been to several. Would recommend the experience, there's nothing quite like a woman calling you a good boy in Mando'a as she gives you a thighjob under the covers
when the fuck is that gauntlet starfighter model they showed off with the mando launch box coming out
>>98798971Q1 2027, so anytime from January to March.I expected them to get released near the end of March in time for Adepticon, but it seems Adepticon 2027 will be closer to early-mid April.
>>98794393Acclamators, Venators, and (to a lesser extent) victories are generally deployed as fleets.I think the understanding anons have of the ISD is that it is a vessel capable of independently operating in this capacity.instead of moving around fleets of acclamators between worlds you can have a single ISD show up to remind people who is in charge.
>>98799928Literally any ship can operate independently and in fleets. ISDs are often in fleets too, we see them in a fleet in ESB.People need to understand the ISD isn't this revolutionary new concept, it's just an evolution of the Venator/Victory into a more generalist direction. That's it. There is really not much of a difference between it and other ships in purpose.
>>98799972The ISD is importantly a ship without any real peer threats. Its significantly larger and stronger than a venator or acclamator while still maintaining the role of a carrier, holding an entire division of assault troops, and being perfectly capable of intercepting even fast blockade running ships.My point is that the ISD has little to fear beyond actual organized/prepared resistance and fleets. Doctrinally a fleet of ISDs is better suited for the occupation of space as it can be spread thinner over a sector, whereas this sort of hostile occupation strategy the Empire uses would likely require much larger groups of smaller squishier republic era ships to subjigate the same territory.
>>98800044It isn't that much larger than a Venator but yes it is larger, and the Venator can also do most of those although I agree less than the ISD in some ways (for example, the Venator is better as a carrier because of the many different hangar bays)That being said, hostile occupation could easily be done with Venators or Acclamators. The Republic was doing it during the Clone Wars. Hell, if you follow what Lucas implies rather than EU lore, the ISD would be designed years after the end of the CW so the Empire was operating with them (even after the ISD, to be fair). And actually even in the EU the ISD took a while to really reach the prominence of the VSD and the like.The only difference is the Empire didn't have much of an enemy to fight. ISDs did well in the Reconquest of the Rim but a lot were destroyed in the same way Venators were. Simply the fact of having to fight a competent naval force rather than dealing with space piracy.
Got a game of FF RPG goin on in the old republics.For our guys we got:A Mandalorian whose clan was exiled for playing with both sides during the warWookie slave to the Sith, was experimented on.A Republic droid spy hunting both the Mandalorian and the Wookie for past exploits regarding the Jedi Temple on Coruscantand a Weequay pirate.The Mandalorian and the Wookie where imported from previous play session.
>>98800044Besides Hutt ships, and Mon Calamari ships, and Separatist remnant ships
>>98802701>Chad Weequay pirate enjoying his people's long history of getting tangled into gay political plots for profit
>>98802701Nice anon.Our group had our most recent play session last night, our Huttbro player had us kidnapped and sold as slaves into his cousin's gladiator pits.
>>98787449>these companies will stay here:>sienar, kuat, rothana, and blastech...
>>98803717Our last session we where doing a massive podrace on Tatooine and met up with the pirate who was snopping around the stocks as a "mechanic"From our previous session we received an ejector seat which we modified with a remote control and bribed him to install it into the grand champs podracer.We never got to use it because her pod stalled out on the first lap.
First D&D/SW book cover got revealed.Looks kinda gay, but not for any reason I can pin down. Maybe that the characters don't really look dressed for Echo Base.
>>98806072Were you using any particular rules for the podracing? A few years back, I modified some fan-made podracing rules for an airspeeder race, and am curious if we both started from the same place.>>98807492I've been thinking about this today. Considering Wizards/Hasbro already had D20/Saga editions, and Edge Studios is in no position to expand the EotE/AoR/FaD line, it makes some sense for the Mouse to license the IP for a 5e port.But what if there is more to it? For reasons that thoroughly baffle me, people choose to play that abysmal SW5e fan hack, and I'll bet it is currently more popular than any of the canon D&D settings. So if an official ruleset and adventure were released, then Hasbro might be able to lure more people over to their content distribution pipeline.Weirdly enough, I think Wizards might genuinely produce a better version of SW5e. I'm always prepared for them to disappoint, of course.
>>98807492Good point in the timeline, good decision to not start with Jedi/Force user characters.But I fully trust them to add a chick and make it gay, so there is practically no point in getting excited.
>>98808136I would frankly play Saga edition, and happily, before I wasted time with the 5e SW hack.
>>98807492>black-coded Rodian>gender balanced humans>extremely primped homofaggot male>Diverse female in GRRR GIRL STRONK pose>special snowflake new droid because apparently no cunt anywhere just buys a regular fucking model>VADER IS IN IT LOOK VADER YOU LIKE VADER RIGHT PLEASE BUY THIS FUCKIt's pretty easy to pin down actually.It's sad because I dunno, maybe the artist *just happened* to think that specific combo of characters looked cool, but since everyone has long since begun noticing that every major artwork for RPGs and wargames now seems to decide what to feature on a quota system any art that looks that way will be assumed to have that motivation - with good reason - and any art that doesn't will be attacked by the Other Side for being chud-coded even if the artist had no such intention. This is why "everything is political" is such a poisonous mindset.
>>98807492>>98809222>species that gets stereotyped as expendable petty criminals because that's what their first appearance in the OT was>"let's make him black"It's funny how often this kind of thing happens.
>>98809222>black-codedI get what you mean but that's a very faggy way of saying itAnyways I think the gayest part is that they're trying to add these randos to Hoth, make your own stories instead of syphoning from the films cause you have no originality
>>98807492>clothing makes no sense for Echo Base>group pose makes no sense for the action shot>individual pose fluidity don't like up to anything>what the fuck is sniper girl resting her leg on? >snowtroopers just casually standing there>random droid in the the corner just because fuck itYeah this was a lowest bidder job
>>98809305These choices are understandable, for a cover like that you'll want:>typical RPG partySo the Rebel Alliance or assorted underworld types are the best choice for a D&D party of snowflakes with varied classes and species/races. Anons here may enjoy the idea of a full party of Clones or Stormies but you kinda need more variety on a cover.Though I'll admit a cover with an Imperial Agent/Officer as the Facen Stormtrooper as the Fighter, a Scout Trooper as the Rogue and a Probe or Interrogation Droid could work as a supplement cover.>iconic enemy mooks >iconic boss fightDoesn't get any more iconic than Stormtroopers/Snowtroopers and Vader>iconic localeHoth works. Still I'm surprised they never seem to do any mixing and matching like having Rebels fighting Imps on Naboo or Kashyyyk to pander to both the OT and PT crowds.
>>98809332It's kinda sad that it looks just as bland and randomly jumbled togetehr as AI slop.
>>98809503>Rebels fighting Imps on Naboo You wanna trigger the old Battlefront II players that bad huh.
>>98809332Droid's there for the "Cutesy-Wootsy Mascot Peak" and that's all, seems like.
>saves star warsSCRIB DOON
>>98809222>black-coded RodianFuck, I didn't even notice. They know they can just put black people in this, right? He's even got the Killmonger haircut, somehow!>>98807492 (me)On a second viewing it's worse.>Rifle girl is clearly aiming at the floor>Zabrak dude facing the viewer suggests the party has been surrounded, when context says they should be either holding a chokepoint or fleeing the Imperial push through Echo Base>all the snowtroopers seem to be standing still, only one is even pointing his blaster at them>Droid in the "Meowth, that's right!" poseWait a minute. Holy shit, this entire image looks like Vader and the 501st are just staring in disbelief as these morons perform their version of the Team Rocket introductions.
>>98813395>perform the Team Rocket introduction pose.Holy fuck that's it, no wonder it made me think of AI slop.But instead of AI imitating art insipired by art, now we get art imitating art copying art inspired by 2010s chinese cartoon fanart.
How much taller did Vader get when he became a cyborg? If I became an evil cyborg I'd specifically want to be at least 60cm taller.
Play Legion
>>98808136He drew up a small board with several different hindering factors depending on the zone. How fast you went determined how many squares you moved through. So you had to balance the speed with certain zones.Also if you get to many threats, despair or someone used a triumph against you you had to pull a piece from a jenga stack. If it fell you crashed.
>>98813395Killmonger cut AND space-vitiligo. They really wanted to make sure you Got The Message.
>>98810533Not even Biddy Blas can save Star Wars.
>>98815350It had to have been at most a foot of extra height. Anakin in all of his depictions was already pretty tall.
More movie props
>>98817922Disney doesn't know how to make SW guns. They're either too stock with little greebles that look like SW or look nothing like SW like the nerf guns from the ST.Then again this goes for everything Disney has done. I only recall Rogue One looking somewhat like something Lucas would have done.
>>98819272Eh, the Mado blaster is prety good. Only mildly autistic /k/ommandos recognize the Bergmann.Lazy shit like that AK in Andor was WAY worse, and it stuck out like sore thumb in an otehrwise very good show.
>>98819415Mando's blaster seems to me to be about the same level of modification as Han's blaster in the OT. In both cases the gin it's based on is distinctive enough that it's instantly recognizable to gun nuts, but for the same reason looks different from a "standard" pistol for people unfamiliar with guns
>>98819415>Lazy shit like that AK in AndorAnnoyingly, that thing was like two mods away from perfect.Literally:* Make mag more clearly not a mag, little plexiglass window with fluid or a red LED or gas-tank shaped or something* One extra under or overbarrel greeble OR DL44 scope* (optional) rag heatshield wrapBoom done. Star Wars already uses fuddlore gun language (evil stormies use MP40/FG42 infantry doctrine, heroic rebels use pistols cos underdogs or long rifles like muh GI or stole MP40 like partisans, Mando and Han have Big Iron on their hip, Jedi Katana can cut through MG barrels, BVR proton torpedoes are no match for my ability to fly up and to the left suddenly) and the Based Innawoods AK is a fine visual metaphor to base a blaster on.
>>98820604Yeah. Just do those, and I'd also suggest to remove the way-too-obviously-AK wood color handguard with a black/grey greebled-up one.
>>98819272>>98819415>>98819500>>98820604>>98823658Decided to give it a pop based on what you said and pic related is what was spat out.What do folks think? I think the 1st variant looks a little too 40k, the 2nd is about right though..
>>988250563rd and 4th ones looks the best for Star Wars rebel blasters
>>98825061I will say, the integrated scope thing on the 3rd/4th one and the 'gas tank' battery really do wonders to break up the classic AK-47 silhouette.
>>98825056>>98825061>>98825066Agree 100%, 3rd and 4tth are easily 'Star wars blaster', great job anon.
>>98825156Fuck it, know what. Everyone post a gun you want to see Star Wars'd.Let's make some thread relevant content and have a bit of a laugh.
>>98825206Try this one. The infamous fishgun
>>98825206can you turn a VEPR hunting rifle into a mando sniper?
>>98825647Gave it a pop, not sure I used the right starting gun, if not post one and I'll do a take 2.
>>98825645Behold, the Mon Calamari war rifle! The most Fish of all Guns
>>98825645>>98825706The madlad actually did it. I could definitly see that in the hands of a Mon Cala or a Quarren. maybe even in the hands of a Gungan merc
>>98825721>That spoilerYou fool, you've cursed us all! And so have I
>>98825739I've always wanted a gungan character voiced by a black guy with a normal voice, strongly implying that Jar-Jar just had Down Syndrome. >>98825056I don't normally like slop but 3&4 go hard.
>>98825762>I don't normally like slopSlop has its place, that being kit bashing. It's incredibly useful for any sci-fi tabletop since 'Oh my character is a Quarren fuckboy who couch surfs his way through the lives and beds of countless wealthy women due to the Quarren ability to hold their breath for a shockingly long time' isn't something anyone has ever done art before, but with a few minutes of work you can get something put together as a visual ref.
>>98825762Idris Elba as a hard bitten Gungan bounty hunter chasing a Columbiano Trandoshan drug lord in Not-Panama planet.
>>98810533Is the game fun?
>>98825692thats the right gun, looks really mechanical. interesting design.
JUST GIVE IN
>>98828436I haven't played it myself and I'm not going to give the mouse money, but it looks like a pretty good racing game that looks and feels very much like a Star Wars game should feel.
>>98829573
Hell yeah
>>98834788All I wanted was starfighters and waifus.
>>98825056Looks far more fallout-esque to me than Star Wars, imo
Ah, Master Sifo-dyas
>>98828436I really am enjoying itcampaign is brutal on the harder difficultiesmultiplayer is fun but how the fuck did they think launching with only being able to play with 3 people together was a good ideahopefully they don't squander the momentum and good will the game has and implement custom lobbies sooner than later
>>98815897Next year my homie and I are going on a big Star Wars kick. We've already bought our models for X-Wing and Legion.
>>98835734This is going to sound like I'm being passive-aggressive but I mean this entirely unironically: If you can do better, do so and post it.Usually that'd be a bitchy 'I'd like to see you do better' but the tools are right there and more content for the thread is a good thing. Seriously, see what you can come up with with a little finagling.
>>98837899Not that anon, but I figured I'd give the AK /slop/ blaster idea a try. I think the best way to blasterize an AK is to turn the gas tube into a second barrel.
>>98835734>>98837899The biggest problem with >>98825056 is that it is a victim of the piss filter. The middle gen in particular is just a bit of chrome or bare aluminum, some grey hammer tone paint, a lick of wood polish, and a brass fitting or two on that pipe from fitting right in with the EE-3 or the A-280 as a prime Empire Strikes Back era blaster.
>>98838108See, I think that goes a bit too far the other way. It's overdesigned for a Star Wars gun.Look at how small the adjustments are on >>98817922.For the most part Star Wars guns are almost 'Alt-History' levels of minor adjustments, at least when dealing with mainline culture weapons/rebel weapons.Prequel era gets a bit more quirky of course. But Original Trilogy era kind of has that used future vibe built into it and is a bit grungy.
>>98837899Henry's take.>>98825056Goes beyond the piss filter. The greebling looks out of wack, almost steampunk. SW weapons are just WWII-era weapons with random maquette and piping parts glued on, not super complex. The simpler the better.>>98838108Same with this except this has glowy shit that basically no film gun has.
>>98734472Fuck Jedi! Marry Twi'leks! Kill The RepublicSith pureblood are the best.
Everyone talks about the Andor AK but nobody about the Book of Boba/Mando AK
>>98845776That's because it didn't have the sickle mag that's iconic of the AK and makes it instantly recognizable to even nogunz normalfags.
>>98845876Also because almost nobody watched that show and anyone who did has tried very very hard to forget it.
>>98845982People watched Book of Booba Fett. They just only remembered the Mando Season 2.5 bits from it.
>>98845617>Kill your wife because love is for fags!
>>98845776Let's not forget that Fennec Shand has been using an AK (well, technically a Dragunov) based blaster rifle across like three different shows and nobody seemed to notice or care.It really is as simple as removing the magazine and covering the immediately recognizable AK-style gas block and front sight.
While not the biggest fan of the mando shit, although I did like the droid gotra and their aesthetic, they got going, makes me wanna kitbash an army of these clankers
>>98846110True and real.
>>98846793
>>98766668Ever been on a cruise ship? That but real fancy instead of fake fancy.
>>98846138>nobody seemed to notice or careOf course people noticed, it's just that the thing looked like a Star Wars blaster.And I guess the show she was in was so terrible that her gun being pretty OK wasn't noteworthy.
>>98846873>no ring around her neckNot a real Twi'lek wife
>>98846968What if they're just engaged?
Since we're talking blasters, you got any thoughts on what this blaster that Hasbro used to give to clone action figures should be called? It's based on the unused Episode III "Skytrooper" design I think.My inclination is to treat it as the FG-42 of the DC family.
>>98847316I'd say something like a pair of metal bracelets. Probasbly matching ankletss.
>>98828436Its terrific.
>>98846968You gotta take them off every once in a while, or they get marks, especially if they got one of those tight metal ones
>>98849466Of course. It just looks like something a slavegirl would wear, but it's just jewellery for your Twi'lek wife.Until she needs you to lewd her, then it will have to prove that it's functioanl, too.Challenge: Get your Dathomiran wife to wear that.
>The Force, for some fucking reason, has actual political preferences and likes globalist neoliberal democracySo the Force is straight up evil right?
Hey, you remember that Star Wars movie Taika Waititi was supposed to be making? No? Well don't bother looking it up now because it's dead.
>>98852404I bow to the evil Loli Moff.
>>98852404>>98852404>>98852794
>>98852793Who saw taht coming, after the dozen or so pipe dream projects got cancelled, and the ones they actually made bombed (with three or so exceptions)The only one I vaguely feel might have been cool was Rogue Squadron. The rest was 'see title and concept, imediately know it'll be dogshit' tier corporate idiocy.
>>98852836Starfighter has a release date set, so unless something disastrous happens it's actually going to come out. After that, it remains to be seen whether Felonious D can salvage any of the hypothetical movies he inherited from Kennedy and whether he can pull the Star Wars brand out of its current death spiral, but I wouldn't bet money on either of those things happening.
>>98853644Making a good movie these days is as simple as not getting political and spreading THE MESSAGE, with fucking strong independent black trans women who don't need no man. All they need to do is just make a fucking movie aimed at their core audience of white and asian male nerds, and it will be successful.So they're obviously unwilling to do thjs and the brand will continue its death spiral until the Disney jews start actually hurting for money and tell them to stop fucking around.
>>98847494Looks more like a DMR than a SAW to me.>>98842308This is the best one.>>98853892>not getting politicalYou mean "agree with my politics" because that's what not being political always means.
>>98854193>You mean "agree with my politics" because that's what not being political always means.But it doesn't mean that though. It means don't shove YOUR Current Year politics into fictional settings with their own internal logic, especially if you do it in an obnoxious way deliberately intended to piss off the existing fanbase because you see them as insufficiently obedient to your ideology.Shove this DARVO shit up your cavernous arse, fag.
>>98854220So we agree, but you assume I'm a fag so you don't like me. Got it.
Is there a list building site/app for legion?
>>98854372>siteThere are several. LegionHQ, Legionhelper, TabletopAdmiral>appDTT army builder
>>98854562Thanks!
>>98854220Except original Star Wars was all about George shoving his <current year> politics onto the screen.You just want to bitch and moan and piss and shit your pants about your bullshit culture war.
>>98853892>All they need to do is just make a fucking movie aimed at their core audience of white and asian male nerdsI think they tried to do that with Mandalorian And Grogu, they've forgotten how.
>There's literally no difference between the OT and mandatory vigiligo negro with a prosthetic limb and asthma lesbian-a-paloozahYou're not even getting a (you) for that.
>>98855392The difference is that you liked the messaging of the OT and don't like this message. Claiming that the OT had no message at all is just self-deceptive faggotry.
If you don't understand the difference between OT, PT and ST(d) in terms of messaging and the mechanics of delivering that messaging, go read 'What shall we ask of writers' by Albert Maltz.I would say 'then come back here and admit you're not just wrong, but a little retarded', but that would require you to engage with it honestly and reflect on the implications of it.Which you won't do.
>>98855442This implies that the OT didn't have overt political messaging in it (it did) and that it was more honestly or cleverly written than Andor or Rogue One (it wasn't).I would argue that the PT and ST manage to be MORE politically neutral, as those films have no message at all save "buy toys and lunchboxes."
>>98852793Thank goodness.
>>98855584>PT>even more politically neutral
>>98855844That's the joke, retard.
>>98855108Like I said, shove your DARVO bullshit up your arse, poofter.
>>98854193That's not what I said or meant, and you know it, you disingenuous little twat.But you know what? Fuck it. Yes my politics are fucking superior to yours and Disney's, and that's objective fact because the OT and PT are far more well liked than anything disney put out, and grew the fan base instead of dividing and killing it to the point that people are fucking wary of going to see star wars movies any more, nor do they buy the merchandise of the Disney films/shows. Disney has admitted defeat and introduced OT characters to its theme parks instead of only Disney movie/show characters. The amount of cancelled movies and shows show even Disney knows the bullshit they spew isn't liked.So again, yes. My politics > yours/Disney's. Get fucked faggot.
>>98856211>PT grew the fanbase>PT didn't divide and kill it to the point people were wary about seeing star wars movies for years
>>98855108https://youtu.be/UwnrSllUh20?is=KNHWxymlxm2HnS4NI no longer believe that.
>>98856232rlm tier pleb detected.
Were inhibitor chips the worst lore retcon to happen in Star Wars?
>>98857230HE is not completely wrong, TPM wasa hjuge letdown for millions of people who expected more SW like the EU books, i.e. more grounded, more 'Wars' and less whimsical.And TPM does have a huge problem with the Gungans. That is like 40 minutes of screentime wasted on irrelevant bullshit and CGI, and a stupid set-piece that basically turns the droid army into hopeless comedic relief.
>>98857373Kek it's the oppositePeople wanted the Prequels to be LESS grounded. The Eu was known pre-PT for being a wacky wasteland of retarded ideas. Remember the old Marvel comics with Jaxxon? Rember the post-Endor period bullshit with the dark greetings and Trioculus and all these random fantasy characters? Remember the entirety of Dark Empire?George went far more realistic for the Prequels, he made them a mix of political thriller and operatic tragedy a la Othello, which pissed off the dedicated fanbase who had fooled themselves into believing Star Wars was something it never was, generic sci-fi slopRLM even admitted they wish the Prequels were like Back to the Future or Gremlins, and no it isn't because of Back to the Future's deeper themes let's be honest hereAlso the CGI is bullshit (the Prequels and especially TPM are extremely practical) and the Gungans are minor characters, Battle of Naboo has far more scenes with Padme in the castle and Anakin in space than Jar Jar in the plains. That isn't people's actual problem though it's a nice cope
>>98857382NAYRT but I was actually there at the time and your shit's all fucked up. Absolutely nobody wanted a wackier TPM (though I could understand the criticism that kids couldnt follow some of it). There are a lot of jarring effects shots, the structure of the film does waste time, and I have no idea what the "actual problem" is if not the above.
>>98857400Retard I was also there when TPM came out. The main criticism that wasn't "CGI" (which was irrelevant cope, there aren't actually that many effects shots and usually that's bullshit like when Chris Stuckmann claimed the podrace was "too static" even though it was mirroring the chariot race from Ben Hur kek), it wasn't even Jar Jar, it was always "the politics are too serious and hard! Star Wars shouldn't be about politics! Who cares about taxation and blockades, we want Luke and Han!"People constantly complained that TPM was too serious beyond kid Anakin and Jar Jar, that nobody wanted to deal with how Palpatine became chancellor or corruption in the govt, in fact most fan "rewrites" (which all miss the point of the films lmao) consistently REMOVE the politics and replace them with wacky gimmicks, IE giving Anakin, Obi-Wan and Padme a fucking romantic triangle or adding more Sith or connections to the OT or somethingLike I said, RLM who are the face of the anti-Prequel movement said themselves the Prequels were too dark and grim and complex (one of the points in their video, as dumb as it is, is that "the characters cannot be described in a single sentence") and that they should have been like Back to the Future or Gremlins, fun wacky '80s flicks with some gimmicks and a basic story and that's it (I personally think BttF is deeper than that but it's clear RLM have no real understanding of what the film is trying to say or do beyond the superficial time travel aspect)
>>98857382>Remember the old Marvel comics with Jaxxon? Rember the post-Endor period bullshit with the dark greetings and Trioculus and all these random fantasy characters? Remember the entirety of Dark Empire?You know who doesn't remember those? Moviegoers. If George had tried to put any of that shit on screen (which would never have happened anyway since none of those things were his ideas so he didn't care about them) it would've flopped harder than Attack of the Clones.
>>98857416>the characters cannot be described in a single sentenceI always despised that shit. A main character shouldn't be able to be described in a single sentence without compounding a lot of who or what they are in the process.Shit, I've had RPG characters you'd have serious trouble describing in one sentence.Having been there as well, I was lucky enough to never listen to RLM or the other shit critiques, back then or now and only encountered 'Wait, people hated the prequels?' later through cultural osmosis.
>And there is one blazing moment in which you finally understand there is no dragon. That there is no Vader. That there was only you. Only Anakin Skywalker…It is in this blazing moment that you finally understand the trap of the dark side, the final cruelty of the Sith — Because now your self is all you will ever have.How do people feel about this interpretation of the dark side? That it really is, at the end of the day, just you getting high on your own supply rather than a corruptive external influence (That being more Cream o' Sheevs job)
>>98857382Sorry, ishould have been more clear.I meant 'the good EU books'Not the lul so randumb shit, 80s comics, etc.More stuff like what was in the WEG RPG splatbooks, and what we now know as the Thrawn trilogy, and the Multimedia Project.Sure, for those who were between 8 and 12 and had no prior exposure to SW it was probably great. But most of them realize today that the parts of the movie you liked because you were 8 are not the best part.
>>98857416>brings up teh podrace up out of nowheregottem ;^)My dude, the problem is 30 minutes of utterly pointless and unrelated shit with gungans.The cavern dive scene is fine, the podrace is fine, what is not fine is wasting time with oh-so-quirky floppy ear niggerspeaking fishpeople. They serve no real purpose, their story is not relevant, they just waste screentime.
>>98857373>And TPM does have a huge problem with the GungansGungans make sense, representing the indigenous people of Naboo and the double standards there, also their value to the Sith and Trade Federation. They give Amidala a striking moment of character growth, as she has to humble herself to access their power.
>>98857644It's good to remember that Lucas took classes on anthropology.
>>98857600>My dude, the problem is 30 minutes of utterly pointless and unrelated shit with gungans.Actually they do. They're the native species of the world who have been isolated from humanity and pushed back into the swamps by them.One of the ongoing themes of Star Wars is finding a way to live with others and the unification of the Gungans with the people of Naboo is there to contrast with the Trade Federation, who try to do everything by force, or the Sith, who care only for their own self-interests and would never even consider working alongside someone.It's only by tapping into the Force of Others, by relying on and working with them, that Amidala can save her world.Just because you didn't pick up on it doesn't mean it didn't have a point.
>>98857494Yeah and moviegoers liked the Prequels. They sold extremely well, dominated toy markets, to this day they're extremely beloved by casuals.It was autist niggers who hated them because they wanted either the OT again or that kind of EUslop. I guess they got their wish with TCW, that ain't much different from average pre-PT EU media.>>98857587WEG WAS random bullshit. People overestimate the good shit it created. For every cool thing like Tarkin Doctrine it had a trillion random wacky planet quest shenanigans with shit that wasn't Star Wars.Thrawn Trilogy is more of the OT. It really isn't as grounded as people like to claim.The Multimedia Project IS post-PT. It was the Prequels that led to Star Wars having darker media, starting with the Republic comics. You got the good dark shit like Shatterpoint and Dark Redezvous and the dark grimslop like NJO and everything after that but it was the PT that led to people treating SW more seriously. Before that, it was just 90% shit like Luke falling in love with a spirit inside a computer.>>98857600The Gungans don't even get a collective ten minutes you dopeYou spend like three or four on Otoh Gunga and then another three on the Battle of Naboo since the film spends FAR more time focusing on Padme, Anakin and Obi-Wan & Qui-Gon vs MaulEven then they do have a purpose, to show the separated and distrusting species come together to fight back against a bigger foe which is setup for both the formation of the Empire and the Rebellion
>>98857679>they wanted either the OT againAs the oldest curse goes, 'May you get everything you wish for, but not how you wanted it'I wonder which one of them jacked off with the monkey paw to piss it off so badly?
>>98857644>>98857654Except none of that happens in the movie. It all got 'interpreted' into those scenes.There are maybe three lines of dialogue where Amidala goes 'oh yeah sorry about that whole taking over your planet. Now go die for (((our))) planet lol'And then the represed, ostracized, living-in-a-swamp Gungarinos pull out their heckin wholesome shields and spears and power up the invicible shield generators and blue goo catapults.At best this is blatantly racist, but not in a funny way. All the 'butbutbut they add this and that and look at Jarjar become a le ebin 4D Sith lord!' bullshit was stitched on in the years after the movie when they realized how useless and universally loathed these timewasters were.You realize this as soon as you just skip all the gungan city scenes, the movie works fine. You can skip the entire ground battle with teh gungangs, too. They add nothing to the movie.The screentime should have been used to show more of Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan, more of Amidala and her Handmaidens, and ideally tehy should have also cast an older Anakin and given us some more exposition on Tatooine.Oh well, water under the bridge. Today we have to wonder if there will be more Star Wars after Starfighter.
>>98857692>George trusted me to not be a complete subhumanoid who needed everything spelled out for him when dealing with the themes that go throughout the entire series, when we're four movies in. Clearly that's a him problem.Also>Das raycist!Here's you (you), don't spend it all at once.
>>98857688Not a monkey's paw cause they got what they wantedTCW redid the OT again and they ate it up despite it being a retarded kiddie show that shat on everything the Prequels did (actually probably liked it more because of that)RLM actually ASKED Lucasfilm for JJ Abrams to direct the next Star Wars during one of their Star Trek reviews and loved TFA and TLJ, they had to switch tones and create a half-baked meme video for Rogue One (the infamous "THEY BROKE NEW GROUND" one) because they got tons of criticism on how they were sucking Disney's dick and were falling behind on the far more popular Mauler-style reviews pointing out how shit the films wereBut I'm 100% certain they probably loved TRoS, was made for them pretty much kek
>>98857703>George trusted me to not be a complete subhumanoid who needed everything spelled outSo you just made some shit up after the fact to justify that your 11 year old self liked th Gungans. That is OK.It is also OK to say that my opinion is fucking retarded because you love Gungans.I stand by my point though: The gungans add nothing worth having, and waste precious screentime.Just go watch the Phantom Cut, it shows this very clearly.
>>98857706>TCW redid the OT again and they ate it up despite it being a retarded kiddie show that shat on everything the Prequels didHow did TCW do that? >Lots more Jar Jar>Lots more politicsI suppose the inhibitor chip is like that.
Looking for some advice on ships. Having my party meet a rich asshole who overspends on everything, but instead of the tasteless gold plated crystal ballroom stuff he's just a moron who doesn't understand utility. He'll always buy the high performance, overengineered, moronic version of something, sort of like buying an F1 car to go grocery shopping. Sure, it's fast, but the station wagon gets you to the store and it doesn't get 7mpg.Think like those idiots who bought the Juicero. I need starship equivalents to the Juicero. Doesn't have to be an exact one, just some examples I can crib names and manufacturers for him to namedrop while he's extoling to the party about how wealthy he is.
>>98858020Do any of the characters know anything about ships? If so have him drop in that he owns a Kuat Maridian-T, then have them roll and regardless of what they get tell them the Juicero comparison outright.Sometimes just making shit up and going OOC 'This guy is a rube' works perfectly fine.
>>98857706>akshually it's your fault that the sequels are a steaming pile of dogshit because you pointed out that the prequels suckeddo prequelfags really
>>98857990TCW had no politics retard, at most you had the gay "neutral corpos" which was more an excuse to have dumb hijinksJar Jar is only present in a couple episodes in the first two seasons when the show was trying out stuff, Lucas wanted to see if Jar Jar could be salvaged, he couldn't so after S2 he's practically non existentInstead TCW became more OT/early EU with the characters being changed completely, random adventures and aliens and plotlines that don't matter, Ahsoka, the clones being normal people, the chips, Dooku and Grievous being beaten every day, etc>>98858082Anon, no anti-Prequel retard thinks the Sequels suck. Jay and his team were sucking Disney's cock until they had to slightly separate themselves. To this day, they literally defend the Ack-olyte iirc.
>>98858104>outright lying about things that can be trivially factcheckeddoprequelfagsreally
>>98858104>TCW had no politicsAre you talking about the 2D or the 3D one? Or the movie?
>>98857523 It makes sense, since the dark side is not supposed to be some kind of anti-Force that exists separately from the Force, but what happens when you start twisting the Force to serve your own selfish desires, instead of using the Force in accordance with the will of the Force.
>>98858220>will of the Force.Man I hate that phrase.It absolutely fucks the idea that the Force is found in all living things and is effectively a sort of living motion of harmony through the galaxy, if the Force has a will of its own separate to those things.
>>98858287What do you think advancement is towards? When people become more compassionate and kind, what is it towards? >https://youtu.be/CdBvjivzvCYIf you just remember the innocent eyes of a child you could see Star Wars again.
>>98858293>When people become more compassionate and kind, what is it towards?Service to others at the cost of the self isn't compassionate or kind.You do not make the world a better place by setting yourself on fire so that others can be comforted by the glow and cruelty to the self is still a cruelty to a living being.We're not recreating Ormelas from first principles.
>>98858287You can consider the will of the Force to be the system's natural tendency towards maintaining that harmony.
>>98845776Because that looks nice and not like a normal AK.
We're back.
>>98861130I still like X-Wings
>>98815897I went to 2 Legion Tourneys over the past 2 weekends and had a great time. A small local event and a GT.Overall it was an amazing experience. I thought GT were something daunting but the atmosphere was really welcoming and relaxed overall.My list did well at the local event, I even won the whole thing.The GT did not go as well as I went 3-3, but that's still pretty good.
>>98858462I can smell the stink of Randian bullshit off you from here.
>>98862163Well if you truly believe the bullshit you preach you'll bend over and let me fuck you in the ass raw, right here and now.After all, if you've got no ego and are in perfect control of your emotions to the point where the will of others is more important than your own, my desire to absolutely Alderaan that bussy shouldn't be a problem.Right?So bend over and grip your ankles, Jedi.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQRW0RM4V0k
