Is jar jar correct? Are the dice important in an RPG? Or should you fudge the results to save the players for the sake of the "story"?
>>98735269>AIslop >fuck awful typesetting >Red underlay and Paint arrowsWow this image is complete garbage.
>>98735272>AIunderage please gothat comic is older than you.
>for the sake of the "story"?No.>for the sake of not having to stop the action or waste time in the future to make and introduce another character because it would be a pain in the ass and maybe force someone to stay out for a session or moreYes.That said yes, not knowing what is going to happen is supposed to be the point for everyone at the table, that's why you throw dice and have rules to judge the results.
>>98735299>maybe force someone to stay outHow do you handle games with paralysis status effects? Or times where the character is at 0hp and you have no healing left?
>>98735314Depends on system, tone and the situation during play. I was referring more to character death than paralysis, for starters, you usually have a way out of that one. You don't in case you die.Is it a high lethality system where life is cheap, PCs are even cheaper and every player has a couple of spares ready? Well if you die, you die. Say goodbye to hopes and dreams.You had bad luck with a few rolls in a row with sound tactics in a heroic fantasy session in the mid of the dungeon? Unless you got critted out of your HP pool so badly you exploded, someone is bound to stop you from bleeding out or whatever. This may involve you owing a favour to someone or something down the line.
>>98735269If you decide to roll the dice, you should accept the results of the dice. I think the problem is that a lot of modern GMs think that they *always* have to roll the dice. You're the game master, you can just make a ruling and say "okay, [x] just happens."
>>98735272Omega level bait
>>98735272i fvcking kneel at the level of bait on display here
>>98735269Why did you agree to join a game with rules if you didn't want to use rules?
>>98735299Why do characters have hit points if they can't die?
>>98735269The answer is Yesn't.You can take two different approaches as a GM, you can either let the math rocks choose everything, or you can put your finger on the scale from time to time. If you're letting the math rocks choose, you let that fucker die. if you're putting your finger on the scale, they survive, incredibly, against the odds. and you move on with your day.That being said, this is something you communicate to your players on session zero. You tell your players your characters can dies in this setting, so plan accordingly. and then if they minmax to the point a stray arrow can kill them, that's on them.My own GM has a rule, You can die, but you're not gonna die in a ditch, we're gonna make your death as glorious as possible. People do not care then because when they die for reals, they die like a badass.
Trash.
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>>98736814If you're going to "put your finger on the scale" you should just not roll the dice in the moments.
Imagine how fucking lonely you'd have to be to make this LOL
>>98736823kek
>>98736834The comic in the OP is made by a group of friends
even more embarrassing LMAO
>>98736832That's also fair, if you're not comfortable with the failure, don't chance it with the dice.
>>98737554Why are you playing a game with rules if you don't want to use rules?
>>98736770Because you can be rendered unable to fight without dying, anon.
>>98737608Because written rules can be changed to suit the playing group's needs. This is not a sport tournament, there is no need to have all tables in the world play in the same agreed ruleset.Why are you getting bothered over rules in a game where the basic premise is that a player holds authority over the others and can arbitrarily change or ignore rules as written?
>>98735269What system? Cyberpunk probably best to not fudge. genesys, dice rolls are integral so never. Wildsea, vaesen? Why the fuck not? Rolls dont mean shit in some games.
>>98738341more systems need to explore dice mechanics beyond integers
>>98735269>is jar jar correctPointless question. He obviously correct and gives misunderstood wisdom every time he speaks. Every line has subtle points that all the retarded kids didnt understand because HAHA FANNY ALIEN. It's well known everyone on the forest of chan has always appreciated jar jar kino. Best character by far.
>>98738086So what happens when everyone is rendered incapable of fighting?
>>98739204you get counted out
>>98739204That depends on who they're fighting against and where. Have you ever played Kenshi? You can be left on the ground, a slaver picks you up, locks you in a cage and then it's up to you to get out. Good luck.
>>98739579What if the enemy is a ravenous beast that wants to eat them?
>>98737608The first rule of most games is "only roll the dice if the outcome is unknown." If the outcome can be reasonably deduced from the current state of play, you don't need to add a randomizer into it. Rolling should only occur if>The outcome of the current action is unknown>The result of failure changes the current game state.
>>98739579>isn't willing to kill a character because making and introducing a new one is "a pain in the ass".>is willing to stop the game dead to invent and introduce a whole-ass faction of slavers and map out their camp for an impromptu prison break adventure that's a waste of everyone's timeDo you hear yourself?
>>98738086Retard.
>>98738137Wrong.
>>98735269Do you WANT to play an RPG? Then you need some level of randomness to itDo you want to just have a collaborative improv session? Then you don't.Mind you, I'm not putting either option above the other, I think both can be a real fun time, but you have to know what you WANT
>>98739117pic unrelated, clearly.
>>98739579>>98739997Well?
>>98740374But those are clearly not integers?What integer is "advantage"?
>>98740634It's just enums, bruh. All of those symbol combinations map to integers.
>>98740640What an advantage actually does in the game is has nothing to do with integers, you're confusing presentation with effects.Yes, you could say "when you roll a 2 you get an advantage, when you roll a 3 you get a success" and map the dice like this, but the result of an advantage is not a number.
>>98740736Of course it is.
>>98740758?Explain how "an opportunity for a positive consequence or side effect" is a number.Or how "negative consequences or side effects, regardless of whether your check succeeds or fails" is a number.
>>98740776faggot lol
>>98740816I don't think "faggot" is a number either.
>>98735269FUCK DICEI WANT EVERYTHING TO BE DETERMINISTICTHE UNCERTAINTY SHOULD COME FROM THE WORLD NOT BEING AS I EXPECT, NOT FROM JUST GAMBLING
>>98740239This is all hypothetical. You can pull shit out of your ass in a second, making a new character takes more time. Are you arguing this? Game flow is paramount at my table, you can sweat the details later.>>98740392Depends on the situation. Which is? You lose consciousness during a hunt and cats cart you out in monster hunter, literally every time. Is this the case? You seem like you want to find cases where an imaginary argument doesn't work, while I already said in another post that the fudging doesn't even have to be done every time. You are arguing against something that doesn't exist.
Why do you, idiots, keep feeding the one-sentence-replying contrarian troll?
>>98740920The situation is it wants to eat you, faggot. ANSWER THE QUESTION.
>>98740993If we got to a TPK chances are it got injured quite extensively so it probably fucked off already, so the TPK doesn't even happen. If it was a curbstomp for whatever reason it probably got its prey and fucked off, so again, no TPK. If you want to insist on the TPK at all costs, it then takes one body AND FUCKS OFF. Like you should.
>>98741027Didn't get injured at all. If it got its prey, then it eats them, and they have to make a new character. You lose.
>>98741152It eats when I say it does. Buckle up, time for a rescue mission. Checkmate.
Nope.
>>98740861Dice are deterministic,
>>98735269every time you need to fudge a dice roll , you then use a coin instead to supersede the desition and if you want to fudge the coin , you use a normal deck of cards and play black jack and if you want to fudge the black jack you use a tarot deck. until you run out of methods to organically use as a randomizer at that point its the will of the gods and its for the better for this to happen.
