But seriously, what was the point of writing such rules, especially because it's impossible to enforce them?
>>98739534Ass-protector against those who'd love to screech at the dev for muh problematic player behavior.
>>98739534virtue signalling
>>98739534>yfw your last Pathfinder character was literally a pirate and a slaver
>>98739534>Reprehensible uses of mind control magicWhat, like ordering a guard to stab his best friend???
>>98739534All mind control is reprehensible. How the fuck did they gaslight themselves into thinking otherwise?
>>98739571How is making homophobic or racist person seeing the error of his ways through mindcontrol is reprehensible?There entire game about that, called persona 5.
>>98739534Remember coercive interrogation isn't legally torture.
>>98739587Based rape correction enjoyer.
>>98739534>never play an all-Evil campaignRequest denied.
>>98739598rape correction isnt mind control. Mind control overrides the consciousness with an external will, denying the victim agency and personhood. rape breaks down a person's artificial sense of self-identity by forcing them to confront their true latent repressed nature (love of cock). Mind control has no benefits to the individual, but mind-breaking is arguably theraputic in that it allows for a better understanding and truer expression of the victim's self, leading to a less stressful and more emotionally fulfilling life as a cocksleeve
>>98739534my pathfinder character does all of these
>>98739534Its possible to enforce them in public play and LGS thoughbeit. Of course you cant police anon's roll20 game but that was never the goal.
>>98739554this, the purity spiral of the mid 10's made them think was an easy we're on your side. then you toss in the blandification of settings.Course then you got the other set of retards trying to market edgy. This is why i only play games with friends.
>>98739587>How is making homophobic or racist person seeing the error of his ways through mindcontrol is reprehensible?I feel like resorting to usurping a dude's free will is going to have the opposite effect in that situation.
>>98739647All you needed to say was that you love cock, anon.
>>98740054"i love cock"happy? where is the emotion? the poetry? where is the art???
GURPS gives bonuses to persuasion if you torture your victims
>>98739978Not really, are the devs going to stand behind my chair while I allow this and try to stop me?
>>98739534that's the kind of thinking that lets you disregard the whole book if you like. so you might as well just buy shit with values you actually appreciate and not something that will make you bitch
>>98739554/thread
>>98739534People are cry, but this is just the modern version of "magic isn't real, satanism is bad, none of this is a guidebook on how to live your life" disclaimers that have been in rpgs since the 80s. The only difference is that the sort of people who get their panties in a bunch about this shit are less worried about d&d teaching little Timmy magical spells and Satan worship, and more worried about d&d being a rape, torture and racism simulator.
>>98739616>Play an all evil campaign>Party was unequivocally the most good aligned group of people in the game even with a child rapist and cannibal among themGM meant ALL evil campaign literally. At one point rocks were chucking other rocks after us when said rocks became sentient because "Nigger loves deserved to be stoned" when the group didn't kill a wood elf. Wasn't even intentional, we just missed one.
>>98739554This, OP is a retarded faggot for even needing to ask.
>>98739571What if it's the only alternative to killing someone?
>>98739534How are they impossible to enforce?
>>98739534This is funny but also isn't this list genuinely quite helpful? These probably are the top 5 things that most "normal" people would agree they don't want to see featured in their games. It's not like you're hurting anyone if your group wants to include them, but if you assume your group wants to include these things without testing the waters first you might encounter a negative reaction.Or you can just treat it as a checklist at character creation.
I don't think mind control is inherently evil and if you think otherwise you are trying to control my mind.
>>98740531>mfw the party gets the Nobel peace prize for killing 1488 children without raping them
>>98740729Heh... my pro-mind control mind control device is working perfectly...
>Current character is a slaver>Other players can't even agree if he's a bad person or not because of how he does it and the social sleight of hand tricks I use when the subject comes uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxw8xg1lpp4Turns out no one takes it seriously if it's just Twi'leks./spoiler]
>>98740435yeah
>>98740620 Very obviously.
>>98739534>make the powerful evil wizard a child>impervious to all harm
>>98739534It is, as >>98739548, explains for covering their asses. It technically covers both directions, but extremists hate moderates almost more than they hate the extremists on the other side. No one on either extreme is really happy.One side complained that the existence of a concept in the setting is tantamount to supporting it and the other side claimed that such evils exist in setting to be opposed. As a result the newest wave of corporate rpg boiler plate includes these sorts of statements less for players and more to protect themselves from bad PR,
>>98739534>"reprehrnsible" use of mind controlWhy only mind control gets that caveat?Shouldn't PCs just refrain from all reprehensible conduct?
>>98741277What is there to cover? You can't get sued for it, but you can sue people who claim you endorse it because that's libel.
>>98741323It is more about heading off bad PR. Paizo purged a lot of the darker stuff in the Pathfinder setting due to the pedo-demon god controversy and that seriously hurt them. The controversy started due to claims about rules in a DM focused villain book rewarding PCs for doing nasty things to children. If a section like the one in the OP had been included in the book then those claims would have had grounds to be called libel and Paizo wouldn't have needed to whitewash themselves.
>>98741481I despise that villains aren't allowed to be villainous any more.Bad people do bad things, somehow this is news to easily offended retards who want every antagonist to be ominous cultists wearing masks who do vague things and have fucking nothing in the way of personality or on screen wickedness.Fucking disgusting.
>>98739534Its the 2020s equivalent of books telling you that you aren't a wizard.
>>98741526I take it you appreciated Skeletor in the latest MotU movie, then?
