How much self-doubt should paladin characters have?
Depends on the game.
That's entirely up to the player. Character may be judged for what they do, but the why behind those action is completely irrelevant.
Paladins should have conviction and a maintain a strong sense of higher duty.
Paladin r no, any mere mortal without doubts is bound to be tricked, manipulated, or otherwise do the wrong thing. Dunning kruger is a hell of a bitch.
Self-doubt is stupid. None. A paladin should have no self-doubt.A paladin should have self-awareness. Just enough self-awareness to make sure that when they fall, they do so wholeheartedly and irreversibly. And if they don't fall, then this level of tension will make them a very interesting character as they struggle with their moral code so that they don't fall.
>>98753873The game you play. You do play games right?
>>98753856In 3.5, essentially none. Only interpretations.
>>98753856According to what metric?The ideal Paladin should have no self-doubt whatsoever, according to the Paladin archetype and Paladin principles and alignment. He should epitomize Lawful Good at a cosmic level, with unerring clarity.As a character? Well that depends on the character. There is no "should" at all; people are what they are. Some will be plagued by self-reflection and self-doubt, second-guessing themselves at every turn. Others will always question and test their ideals and the tenets they have been taught, even if they are sure of themselves, if only to always reinforce and recommit to their faith. Others may be simple-minded and single-minded.>>98753922>the why behind those action is completely irrelevantNot to the character, and, likely, not to the people judging them, either. Intent tends to matter when it comes to arbitration.
>>98753856I think this thread is meaningless bullshit that you don’t actually care about.
>>98753856Blessed is the mind too small for doubt.
>>98753999your duty can't save you
>>98754920Ah, so you can't answer his question because you don't have a game.
>>98755778Can anyone stop this monster?
>>98753999>puckee aka redditor pucke℮21 spamming his commission againhttps://www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/17saywb/commart_knightbrother_emmerich_paladin_by_pedro/https://desuarchive.org/_/search/image/dvXb01E_8-EcWGWcqB5Hyw/>posted 40 times since November 2023
>>98756049Damn! What a nut job!
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>>98753856Ideally none. Their justification comes from the evil they have seen first hand, with a familiarity to good and evil so strong that trying to explain it to other people comes off as alien.
>>98755679It's the only game /tg/ plays.
>>98753856Generally little. Knowing what your god expects of you is a requirement to qualify for being a paladin. Falling as a paladin is not meant to be an accident made when you misunderstood what your god expected; someone who would make that kind of accident would never have qualified to be a paladin. So if we take as a given that paladins know what they should be doing, then the only way for them to fall is to choose not to do it anyway.In matters not relating to morality though, self-doubt is totally fine. You could have a paladin who is thoroughly unsure of himself in all matters except faith.
>>98757432Meaningless platitudes and trivialization of the fact that paladins no matter what are still imperfect mortals.
>>98756434Trick question, the advertisers.
>>98753856Paladins exist in settings where God(s) objectively exist and have chosen the paladin to have special powers and duties because he's so awesome, realistically someone like that isn't going to have self doubt.
>>98757656Paladins and Clerics are different. If you want to experience open-mindedness and doubt, explore the nuances of faith, and debate about theological philosophy with people, you choose the cleric. If you want to shout DEUS VULT you choose the Paladin.
>>98758487I hate "Deus Vult" paladins, the whole meme cheapens a legitimate cry of faith, and also because they miss the point of what the ideal is.
>>98755868Why are you projecting?
>>98753873He doesn't play those, this is for his youtube video.
Why do so many annoying people seem to want to play the same amoral, bordering on evil "paladin" archetype as some kind of fantasy Judge Dredd/Punisher?
>>98753856That's literally the point of playing paladin. Your whole character is about how they view faith. Your core options are:>extreme denial and always on the edge of a cliff while outwardly appearing resolute in their faith>constantly at war inside>actually self-assured and self-aware that their belief is expressed through choice and action and not so shallow as to fall apart over something as basic as a moral dilemma or a trolley problem.So basically it's just a matter of maturity which of these they're closest to. First is extreme immaturity, second is someone in the process of growing, third is a self-actualized person. And your entire character concept as a paladin is to be in one of these and acting in one of these. And they affect your party members. If you're the first then you are a liability and a danger to them, someone to watch out for, if you're the second you need them to help you through your inner conflict, and if you're the third you're the party grandpa dispensing advice and acting swiftly.
>>98758778These aren't the style of threads that get AI voice narrated. They're just mods trying to trick us that the board isn't borderline dead.
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>>98753856What room is there for doubt when the light of Bahamut touches every corner of one's very soul?
>>98755778It took like 5 years for someone to come up with something fun to do about this.
>>98760599There have been several attempts, but jannies usually ban those.
>>98753856It's hard to do introspection at the table in a way that's interesting and doesn't tank the other players enjoyment. Really depends on the people at the table.
>>98755778"LEAVE PUCKEE TO ME..."
>>98753999My most beloved paladin was a dude named Sir Haye of Baleshire. He was actually a time traveling sentient hay bale from the future, but no one found that out before the game ended.
>>98760599You think it's fun to deface someone's IP with AI?
>>98759233Wisdom is a dump stat for Paladins
>>98758600this
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>>98753856Next time, give your own thoughts and expand out your topic to give more things to discuss around. A one sentence question should never be the basis of a thread under any circumstances.
