Open Realms RPG edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>98747929>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/>4e Booksgofile.io/d/JXpc9g>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator (old):https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread Question:What pity hero was the most pitiful of them all?
>>98758365>TQI nominate the mortisan ossifector. It was clearly just an old boneshaper test model that they decided to sell as a whole new thing.
>>98758365>TQThis fucking loser easily. A reposed Boneshaper. I felt sorry for OBRos after that one.
Can someone give me a rundown on what the last world rumors are about?
>>98758400You already asked this anon but because it'll get the thread chugging along:Leaker man comes out and says "HEY GUYS BAD NEWS, NEXT EDITION WORLD'S GONNA BE BLOWN UP AND REASSEMBLED INTO "BATTLE WORLD" then specified that no characters will be changing, sigmar might or might not die, and a bunch of other more in depth shit. (Game gets edgier and cribs 40k for most of the bullshit) supposedly a timeskip but again, no characters are going away so, eh.Starting box contents has been like, several different variants of chaos bullshit which is odd because the order of operations puts death as the next starter box.There's talk of AOS being rebranded to "The Last World" which frankly seems like a load of shit, changing boxes and brands on all of this shit would be the absolute most pants of head retarded shit ever so it's more than likely just shit like "skaventide" or "necroquake" as an event.Basically in lore realms go bye bye in some way shape or form, Sigmar might or might not die, things get edgier and it's a new edition. I dunno if anyone's said anything about Gameplay but the guy who leaks this shit knows dickall about AOS so I doubt he'd know his tits from his taint.
I finally decided to finally try non synthetic brushes, so I'm excited to continue to do a shit paint job and also ruin my brushes this weekend
I love three claw stepping ahead with my screen of clanrats and devastating units with my ratmen gun line.Truly, Skaven are the superior warhammer race.
>>98758400>>98758402
>>98758459People tell me skaven are weak but it really doesn’t feel that way to me. Granted I’ve only player spearhead so far but looking at the warscrolls it feels like they can do a lot. Personally I’ve been winning spearhead through sacking clan rats and just using my superior numbers to hold more points down and do more objs.
>>98758459Even when it comes to killing skaven there's no race greater at it then skaven The true master race
Organic posting is reaching Greywater Fastness level already
>>98758493lol
>>98758501I would sink Greywater Fastness into the mere a hundred times over if it could restore the Phoenicium.
>>98758432So it’s basically a nothing burger? Kinda sounds like a fairly standard new edition with more of a lore shakeup than normal.
>>98758529More or less, I don't imagine they'll be changing too much of the gameplay basically just doing a bigger lore gimmick for this edition. Units ain't gonna get squatted that already weren't, armies they literally just put out won't go away, and realistically it's still gonna be Age of Sigmar because it would be nigh impossible to do ANOTHER rebrand on shit like this.It's just another Necroquake or Age of the Beast.
>>98758370tzeentch will get a big refresh next edition, same as khornetrust the plan
>>98758482Have you painted your rat ogres yet?I’m gonna stop priming with white. It makes the places I haven’t hit with paint stand out too much.
>>98758549>>98758482These are my rat ogres btw.
>>98758549Not yet. I primed them standard mechanicus grey. I’ll probably paint them after I finish my engineer.
>>98758555Damn those look really good. I like the glow around the warpstone in his shoulder
>>98758365>Open Realms RPG edition>start your game by selecting a realm and whether you want to be a reclaimed in the main city of sigmar of that realm or a tribesman of the chaos lands immediately surrounding it>as a dawnbringer you begin with nothing and eventually progress through the ranks, until you manage the composition of the crusade and its ultimate destination >as a darkoath you must walk the path to glory, where you can take that realm's warcry specialisation and eventually become a warrior with the mark of a god or even a demon, or stay undivided to the call of archaon>as a dawnbringer you are tempted to fall to chaos and betray everything for a quick ascension through the ranks of chaos>you can also die a honourable death and instead get reforged by sigmar into a stormcast, opening another quest >or you can just die normally and become a wight or ghost, or get cursed to be a ghoul or vampire, until you are processed by the ossiarch legions into a custom made champion of nagash>as a champion of chaos you can also pas on to undeath, or get defeated in a fated encounter with the celestant prime and given the chance of redemption reforged as a stormcast>you can't be a rat, dwarf, elf, lizard, greenskin, ogre or giant, but you'll either way interact with them as allies or enemies along the ways
>>98758432>There's talk of AOS being rebranded to "The Last World" which frankly seems like a load of shit,afaik this is also kind of based on nothing, I don't think I've ever seen one of the leakers claim this, I kind of remember the opposite happening at one pointregardless it's not happening for the simple fact that they already have a system called the old world, having another one called the last world would just be terribly confusing
>>98758540Hell yeah, more bird-people!
>>98758655You would have more of a point if you said twinks.
>>98758652I mean I gotta say it because there's like 3 schizo anons that are gonna respond at some point stating the opposite.
>>98758659Why not both? Bird-twinks!
>>98758622>>98758626Thanks breh :) make sure you post pics of your dudes too
>>98758643>choose ghur>the dawbringer crusade goes west>oh shit oh god, pls, not the gnarlwoods>we take a realmgate to ghyran instead>blessthisravagedbody.gif>200+ hours lost in the spitewoods
>>98758365>tqThis fucker, what a fucking downgrade for models that already existed and were cool.
What a fucking stretch for a Halloween battle scenario.
>>98758706while I like the mini, your pity hero being essentially just an alternate sculpt for like 3 different models which were previously their own thing is kind of a kick in the nuts
Why does nobody here play / talk about Skaven? Yeah they were mentioned above, but that's the first time I've seen them brought up in many threads. Aren't they like one of the most popular factions?
>>98758987Give it a minute, Age of sigmar has a lot of factions after all. I went like 3 months without seeing any real meaningful Idoneth discussion everytime I came here a while ago but there's always good faction talks eventually
>>98758987eh they come up a decent amount idk I remember at least a few conversations about skaven in the past few threads there was that guy with his yellow skaven mixing old and new clanrats off the top of my headthat being said while they are a genuinely popular faction I feel like it's somewhat inflated by secondaries
>>98758365Soon
I'm not interested in seeing AoS become not!WHFB.
>>98759065Well, it won't, since it won't be a rank-and-flank game
>>98758365>TQ>What pity hero was the most pitiful of them all?BEHOLD
>>98758706but this guy kicks ass and mogs the rest of the range so fucking hard
>>98759092I actually like this dude, I’d love to give him some more weapons though. Gameplay wise though yeah he’s kinda fuckin null but that’s just because Namarti fuckin suck in the face of proper khelian warscrolls.
>>98758365>tqIn a vacuum picrel wouldn't be bad at all, but holy shit what an absolute monkey's paw of a release this whole "wave" was
>>98759092I love Thrallmaster and the boys
>>98759156The models are good, would've chosen a better pose for the Ikons, but yeah, I'll forever be pissed it was the WORST possible interpretation of "2 heroes but 3 units and endless spells". It didn't entirely surprise me because I have long recognized my luck and tendencies as a harbinger customer. >>98759092>>98759171If only the Thrallmaster and Thralls were good.
>>98759156but this model is great
Is any faction more punished than IDK, a single new non-hero kit would bring a massive amount of life and there are millions of possible sea creatures to base their designs on yet they only get foot heroes for a faction who's foot infantry are shit
>>98759212They're just an abandoned concept GW carries on out of obligation and without any passion because the one who loved and championed the idea is gone now.
>>98758987Be the change you wish to see.-Mohamed Ghandi
>>98759212>Is any faction more punished than IDKFireslayersOrruk WarclansNH
>>98759209Like I said, good model in a vacuum but the circumstances made it sting all the more.>>98759212>shunned by their creator (teclis/gw)>who then goes on to play with their new toys instead (lumineth)>actual divine patron (mathlann/merett) is dead/absentThat's why they're the most sovlfvl of all armies. Their commitment to the meta bit was only matched by beastmen.
>>98759313I read that fireslayers will be combined with the new dwarf faction, khazalite holds or something. Honestly, I’m happy about it. I might put some old world dwarfs on round bases and live out my dreams of being a short king.
>>98759276Didn’t he sleep with his naked underage sister
>>98759349Yes, but it’s important to separate the art from the artist.
>>98758987I’ve been talking and posting some skaven stuff for about a month which is how long I’ve been in the hobby. I’ve usually gotten at least a few responses. I think that while the skaven are beloved they have been discussed to death to the point where it’s frankly not too interesting to talk about. There’s like 10 different factions that need more love and the skaven are doing the best out of any faction in terms of having a large model selection and quality. We really only need a pestilens update and the range is fully up to date. The other thing is that since skaven are so popular people probably already talk about them in person at their flgs and play against them. It’s more interesting to talk about the rarer factions you don’t see often.
>>98759390I would love to see plague monks that were designed in this century lol.
>>98758987Whay do you guys think are the most and least discussed factions on /aosg/? New reveal or rumour talked excepted, of course.I feel like fyreslayers have been punching above their weight, though that may have been because of the abovementioned rumours functioning as a sword of damocles for the last two years and spurring a good bit of discussion because of it.Gits I think come up fairly often. CoS too, of course. Least talked about probably has to be slaanesh. Tzeentch talk too is sparse but every so often there will be some discussion about how to expand the range.
>>98759408Coming from vermintide 2 I really badly wanted to use plague monks since they’re absolutely terrifying in that game. Seeing their battle scroll abd learning that they are a poor man’s clan rats was brutal. I couldn’t even cope with them having good models lol.
>>98759425Slaanesh is the least talked about, can’t say who’s the most talked about though. Maybe ogors?
>>98759425I think the chaos god factions in general are kinda overlooked since they all have counterparts in 40k. If you’re a big nurgle fan you’d probably go death guard unless you really like a fantasy setting. I think most guys who build these armies build it after whatever their first army is. Hence why they get less discussion. Also I haven’t seen much nighthaunt talk.
>>98759430Absolutely brutal stuff. I guess we’ll have to cope by painting clanrats green.
>>98759425least discussed would be the ranges that have the least updates or haven't had one in a while>Seraphon>Nighthaunt>DoT>DoK>BoK
>>98759438I’d guess that CoS gets the most consistent talk. Ogors probably got a boost from their new stuff. Also stormcasts are talked about a decent amount although with a lot more negativity then most.
>>98759450On the bright side at least we know an update is an inevitability rather than a guess. No way gw will shaft the skaven.
>Skaven don't have updated plaguemon--ACK
>>98759445Really? I feel like if you're really into one of the chaos gods you'd go aos/fantasy since they're more their own thing there rather than just marines painted a different colour. The tzeentch egyptian space marines feel a whole lot more egyptian space marine than tzeentch to me for example, if that makes sense.
>>98759496True but 40k is many times more popular than AoS. It’s just easier to find 40k kits and 40k players so new player would probably just pick the more popular one since finding a game can be hard. I live in Dallas and I still struggle with finding games. Cant imagine what living in a smaller city would be like.
>>98759425I think the last time IJ came up was the rumor of a wyvern leader. Nothing before or since unless I bring them up myself
KO is the least discussed faction and probably the least popular overall, and it's not close.
>>98758987Here’s more skaven. These are two clan rats I painted. I like how the left one’s armor turned out with a nice ruby red metal. I’ll probably use if for my stormvermin. I like the cloth on the left one and I like his tan robes. I’ve got more but I don’t want to clog the thread with skaven.
>>98758987the rat men dont exist, what are you talking abouthttps://youtube.com/shorts/kE4YI3jX5to?si=WiZViaK_NDsrDwpV
>>98758987heres some wip, almost finished with the artillery then i can finally move onto the fucking 20 stormverminmost of my skaven are currently sitting in a display case at my local shop since my buddy thought the rats looked neat and wanted to fill out a display
>>98759670Nice rats. How did you paint the glass parts on the globadier? I’m looking for some tips since I’ve got a box of them. An up close pic would be nice too.
>>98759620>how did they get the look of the infantry so wrong? i feel like dwarf warriors have to be one of the easiest things to get right, there are so many good examplesI think that's part of the problem, there's a billion generic dwarf warrior / gunner designs so they tried to do a twist to it.Honestly they should've either done basic ass normal warriors OR went full balls to the wall and went for an entirely "different" take on basic dwarfs. The way clanshields and ESPECIALLY clangunners are right now they are left in this awkard middle field. You can't arm your thunderers with these crazy borderline scifi guns and then have them wear jumpsuits with some iron plates slapped on them.Either go full traditional like the heroes, or full aos bullshit like the drakkar. Can't fencesit.
>>98759706i tried to do my speed paints method but it doesnt have enough texture so it ended up looking like a dark green mess since it just spilled over onto the hands and such so i just slapped my bright green on it and il probably try to do a tiny bit of lime green streaks on it or something, i dont really try to keep things clean
>>98759764The best method I found for skaven green glass was a dark green base, a half moon highlight of some average green and then some white in the opposite corner as a fake glare.. it’s what I used on my warlock last thread and it seems alright for telescopes and goggles. I’m hoping it works on the glass balls the gas rats have. Paints I used were caliban green, warpstone glow, and white scar
Is it just me, or do the Helsmiths rules kinda suck? The whole DP mechanic feels very win-more/lose-more, like the Dark Eldar's power from pain mechanic in 10ed(?). I have to play the first half of the game with my hands tied behind my back, all so I can play the second half of the game with the baseline benefits basically every other faction has.
>>98759603>>98759670Those look so good. Nice job skavenbro.God I love rats.
>>98759780its not you, they suck. its pretty universally recognized, even by GW as they just buffed all 4 subfactions, but it probably still wasnt enough, even combined with their armies several waves of points drops. demonic power is just a fundamentally flawed mechanic that doesnt get good until the most important part of the game is already over
>>98759781ast thing i did was my verminlord and thanquol before that, i still wanna pick up another spearhead after i finish this stuff up because clan skryre is most best great clan and i fucking love warp lightning cannons and stormfiendsbut i might pick up another random spearhead since my friends are getting interested in tabletop and it gives me an excuse to paint random shit now
Looking for color scheme suggestions for darkoath/Slaves. Mostly I want something that isn't any of the following:- Have already done orange and blue CoS/sce w. Green trim- Have already done classic blue-black armor with gold trim chaos warriors- copper nurgle w. Agricultural theme- have done red with black/white checkers for gitsI'm trying not to just do the box colors but black/gold w. Red cloth and lava bases is so classy for chaos
>>98759795>>98759780They used to suck. Even before buffs they have been more than decent for the last battle scroll update. Taar's Grand Forgehost is the 7th or 8th highest win rate subfaction right now. Like KBs, they spent a long time after release being bad but they are currently not bad at all, although the ancestral memory of sucking has remained as a sort of persecution complex. In a way, life has mimicked art.
>>98758987we're around, you just generally don't have many anons directly stating what faction(s) they play unless it's directly related to the conversation>>98759037also hey that's me, thanks for remembering my shitty cheese rats. i do think a lot of the popularity of skaven def comes from secondaries for sure though, given TWW and vermintide are some of the most popular non-40k warhammer video games out there
>>98759425the least talked about i genuinely think has to be Sylvaneth. been frequenting aosg for a while now and cannot recall seeing sylv chat in a very long time. even when that priest hero came out there was barely any talk about itmost talked about recently at least gotta be everything dwarf
>>98759835Nice horns.>>98759949Yep secondary skaven fan right here. In my defense I was 10 when the end times happened. I wasn’t exactly in a position to get in fantasy.
>>98758652>I don't think I've ever seen one of the leakers claim thisThen you're completely wrong, because Boole, one of the most reliable, dumped the news, then it was confirmed by Hastings and several others. Why you think it spread around so fast? It wasn't some random anon making shit up...
>>98759893Taar's Grand Forgehost works because the battle traits aren't dogshit. The buffs are still slow-rolled out, but they're not dependent on a finite resource you have to generate to put yourself on a baseline with everyone else.That being said, it does have two big problems. The first is that it cuts down on your list-building options in a range that's already small as is. The second is that it still suffers from the point cost cuts making the faction feel more like a horde faction. As a result, every list you make winds up being more or less the same.>>98759877Just use AI to mock up some colour schemes for yourself. It's not perfect, but it'll give you some ideas before you commit to something.
>>98759893yeah but arent the armies of renown hyper skew that builds like 1800pts of a single unit and doesnt even use the helsmiths army rules at all?
>>98760000BOOLE PLEASE, I'LL SUCK YOUR DICK. JUST ONE MORE LEAK FROM MY FAVORITE ECELEB!
>>98759973Sylvaneth st least have the kurnothiposter
>>98760000Anon, read more carefully next time. We're talking specifically about an actual name change here, not just the general rumours
>>98759980nah i feel you, i didn't get into warhammer and AoS until well into third edition, and my main experience with fantasy as a setting was through total war and the vermintide games (it's also why i went with skaven, since i like their general look and design and stupid shit) it also helps that i like playing horde armies
>>98760043those models are great, but MAN are they a bitch to paint
>>98757745I’ve never had a problem with there being dwarves or elves of color in AoS. My problem is with *The Rings of Power* and their pathetic justification for making dwarves and elves pitch-black that phrase destined to go down in history as infamous: "Tolkien never said that..." Not to mention their hypocrisy in making a huge, fanfare-filled deal about having diverse dwarves and elves, only to feature—so far—just one dwarf and one elf of color across the entire series. That’s without even mentioning that the show is a piece of crap dragged out of the foulest sewer, and a total, absolute insult to Tolkien’s original work
>>98760128100%, i was a fucking idiot for not painting them via sub-assembly.(also getting the tubing glued is almost impossible because of how the sprue is set up, it was a nightmare)
>>98760129No offense but what the fuck does any of this have to do with aos
>>98759780I love this a lot… >>98759980Jesus. And I thought I was the youngest here.
>>98759949skaven were the only thing i cared about in fantasy for ever, i liked the funny ratshonestly for the longest time i didnt really care about fantasy since i just thought 40k was cooler, aside from vermintide i never dabbled, but as i slowly got more into tabletop i started to switch around a bit, and right now i think i like aos a bit more then 40kalso skaven became my favorite faction in all of warhammer even surpassing admech, because while i love cawl and grimaldus, 40k doesnt have the most clever smart grey seer
>>98760190i remember you seeing in the /wip/ threads a while back, cool green skaven
Finished up my warlock engineer from yesterday. I used screaming bell for the chest armor and I like to imagine he used some scrap metal from a destroyed screaming bell to craft his armor. I also kept him bright, polished, and colorful since I’d imagine he’d probably have an ego being a skaven higher up essentially wearing holy armor. Love how his fur and head turned out. Warlock bronze is quickly becoming a favorite paint of mine.
Here’s a back shot of him. I love how the tail turned out. I used carrobug crimson over rakarth flesh. Also like the little skaven symbol etched in his backpack.
>>98760145lol. Ngl being a young dude here feels depressing at times. I kinda feel like ass painting minis in my room when everyone else my age is partying and making friends. Shit especially hurts when older people always ask if I’ve got a girlfriend or if I’ve been to any parties. It is what it is I guess. At least I’ve got frens to show my rats to here.
>>98760241the benefit to painting skaven is if it looks like shit then its just skaven quality and it fits the army
>>98760291il give you my boomer advice, just enjoy doing shit while you can, if you enjoy painting and doing tabletop shit just do it, as long as it makes you happy who gives a fuck
>>98760291You'll always regret a road you've never taken, so I'll ditto the other anon and say to enjoy what you can while you can.
>>98760291I understand how you feel, i was and still am in a similar situation. but to be honest chances are the types of people you meet at parties or going out or whatever arent going to be ur vibe and will likely choose not to be friends with you anyway. i made an effort to go out and make friends and did briefly, but eventually just drifted apart just do what u enjoy, its one of the great inequalities in this world that some interests are massively more socially rewarding than others.
>>98760291unironically as long as you're doing things you like, and you're not causing harm to yourself or others and able to make enough money to live pretty alright, then you're doing fine. also for what it's worth having a hobby like miniature painting is pretty niche and it can be a really cool conversation starter with folkst. someone who's such a virgin my warscroll has Wizard(3) on it
>>98760373>>98760335>>98760326>>98760302Alright thanks Anons. I’m feeling better about things. To be fair there are far more degenerate and destructive hobbies than Warhammer and tabletop gaming. At least I get some creativity and sense of accomplishment. I won’t lie I still feel left out seeing other groups of zoomers all hanging out and having fun but it is what it is. I have at least made friends with a few boomers at my flgs. Last weekend I played my first game of Bolt Action with a boomer and he gave me a free mode he 3d printed and invited me over to his house. It feels insane how friendly boomers. Is this just a tabletop games thing or is the zoomer/boomer culture divide this strong. Talking to zoomers is like a humiliation ritual half the time. I just get hit with the fucking fluoride stare. >>98760256Speaking of holy armor I was thinking of doing a royal/holy guard stormvermin paint job. I know albino stormvermin guard the council of 13 so I need white fur. I also want to use screaming bell for the armor since my lore will be that they essentially have armor from screaming bells the grey seers blessed them with. Can anyone help recommend paints for the fur and what other colors I should use for leathers, weapons, cloth, etc.
>>98760466It's a bit of both boomer culture and tabletop game thing, being a social hobby after all.
>>98759780Nah I think folks just generally agree on that, they're lacking in any real "strengths" as an army since even if you get max DP on a unit generally it's not even too much of an improvement.Like you said, you're basically climbing uphill to be at the normal power level of everyone else.
>>98760291You're fine man, I've had on and off girlfriends and have been a massive fuckoff nerd who stays inside for AGES. Thankfully I've got buddies who I can have my own parties with, I'd rather have a small party with 6 people I really enjoy as opposed to like 30 people I barely know.
>>98760466you might be hyperfixating on the generational divide of zoomers, millenials, boomers, etc. tabletop gaming has a bit more of a leaning towards older dudes in the hobby but but it's as big of a divide on like, who uses facebook and who uses tiktok. as for the fluoride stare thing, that's just people in general, regardless of generation. a lot of people are just kinda dumb and live their life in auto-pilot mode, it is what it isas for color testing, what i like to do is download the image of the model from GW's site, then use a paint program (CSP is my go to, but anything that has layers and "color" modes for them works too) to test out ideas for what kind of color scheme would look nice. picrel is a shitty mockup i did since i'm also starting to work on a stormvermin unit.if you want white fur rakarth flesh highlighted with ulthuan grey works pretty well, but as long as you don't use a pure white color it should look more than fine.
about what time do the christmas battleforce boxes get revealed? is it soon? i am holding out for an idoneth or bonereaper box personally
>>98760525>but it's not as big of a divide as likeit's past midnight and i can't fucking type, apparently.
>>98760501That's what it feels like with CoS too, though I think my army might be in slightly better place. Plus they nerfed the only damage option of the army recently too, while giving a few QoL changes with mage/priest army list option improvements and giving reinforcements to grenadiers. These new armies are a mess and I bet the new dwarf tome will have same issues.
>>98760538>That's what it feels like with CoS too, though I think my army might be in slightly better place.CoS honestly feels like it's all around super fucking strong. They have decent damage, loads of options. Chorfs feel very limited and what you do have is pretty mid. (despite this one dickhead I have to deal with locally who anytime I bitch about a faction being mid he'll be like "nah man you're wrong. Everythings balanced")
>>98760538My one CoS match up ive had so far they did more shit in my turn than i did myself. that army feels stupid strong wtf especially with their cavalry and heroes
Since we’re all talking about skaven so much how are they in terms of balance rn. It seems skryre is the only super viable build.
>>98758987They have bad rep online, so admiting to them is shameful
HI AOS!I just spent a bunch of burger dollars on a full 2k gloomspite army! Anyone have any fun tips for it :D It's mostly a 50/50 mix of troggs but it has 3 mangler squigs!! I'm so excited to give them a shot, anything else you guys would reccomend for gits!
>>98760596Historically Troggs are the strongest thing you could do
>>98760573basically yeah, with scourge of aqshy really favoring heavy hitting melee units they're kinda middling as usualskryre is definitely the MVP, particularly with doomflayers, reinforced stormfiends, and reinforced warpvolt scourgers/ratling guns.
>>98760563Yeah, those got nerfed. And without those the army is just lots of defensive options without much punch.
>>98760604how about the gobbos! Would having a bunch of those be good! Like a big wall of spearmen!
>>98760606Are doomwheels any good? I’m hoping to get a few since they’re sick.
>>98760291>>98760466Didn’t mean to make you feel down lol. Just kinda takes me back that I’m getting older I guess (24) and people even younger than I am are getting into these spaces/sites. Things could be worse. You could be like me and not even have much of an entry into this hobby to begin with. I definitely feel a divide between myself and younger zoomers too, the culture gap feels like it gets more and more extreme every year, it’s crazy.
>>98760658NTA but I'm 31, I'll tell ya shit has both gotten worse and better. I reasonably think people don't really care about your hobbies so much anymore and being into shit that used to be classified as nerd shit is less of a social stigma. Just keep some deodorant on and shave every now and again and you're fine.
>>98760632yes, but only as objective/battle tactic grabbers. they're frankly pretty bad in melee, even with the +1 damage on charge, having no rend sucks ass in my experience. (they can just move out of combat during their movement phase though, which is nice if it survives)the plus side is that they're 100 points and have 2D6+7" movement, so on average it's moving 14 inches and can go over friendly and enemy models. it's ranged attack is honestly pretty good all things considered
>>98760668It still feels weird how I got to witness in real-time all these nerd hobbies being not only extremely niche, but also carry social stigma, to suddenly almost overnight becoming just accepted into social norm and basically paraded everywhere by people who have surface level interest in said hobbies.
>>98760680Oh, I see the vision. Try and cause havok by moving through chaff into hero models. That's dope.
>>98760684It's very strange, I don't mind it in a sense but I can see why people get really fucking annoyed at some shlub acting like he knows shit in depth but just kinda scratched the surface. But whatever, if people are happy and not actively being dicks I don't really care.
>>98760691Yeah, I feel the same way.The only time it impacted me negatively was anime conventions which I've basically stopped attending at this point as they are just pay-gated physical etsy stores at this point where you're lucky if anyone still cares to do panels anymore.
>>98760596as many boingrot bounders and squig herd as you can stomach (i personally run 30 bounders and at least 20 herd in every list). they are by far the armies best units. troggs are good too. i would also recommend always including at least 2x20 moonclan stabbas in every list regardless of theme. lots of the support characters and units like snuflers are kind of a trap, you waste more points getting them than you get value out of them in a game. pic related is my own personal tier list. just my opinions, i dont base it on whatever tournament guys are doing, i stopped following that stuff years ago, so it may not be accurate to what everyone else thinks but this is where i stand on the units in the army having played it for 10 years
>>98760709What makes the EEs and all the spiders so bad?
>>98760709jesus christ are manglers that bad?
>>98760715spiders are down there for a couple reasons, the biggest one being that those models are fuckin oooold and probably not long for this world, so i will never recommend spiders to a new player until GW redoes those kits and proves they actually want spiders to stick around. until then, im firmly in the camp of believing wolfs were meant to replace them and the spiders will be phased out sooner or later. but also spider shit is just notoriously pillow fisted and has bad support, lost its medium combat character, mediocre rules. flinger and naked arachnarocs have a few interesting tricks so they get bumped up a rank. would actually maybe be even higher if they werent on impossible to use dinner plate bases. like yeah you can move over terrain but...can you? physically? base size is a stat that doesnt show up on whiteboard warhammer, as as someone who's played mawkrushas and vulchas, lemme tell you, its one of the most important stats on the model. those huge bases are very difficult to use.
>>98760720i hate to be a doomer, i own 3 of them, but yeah. the 4e rewrite did them dirty. they've dropped 100pts so far over the edition and i still dont know if i take them. the boss version ranks higher because artifact/trait caddy and he actually gets impact hits unlike the non hero version, but unfortunately because its 4e, once per (army) on those impact hits. the other two mangler bosses have to gently sashay into combat, only one gets to careen.
>>98760732do any of the heroes for squigs help em out? (I ask because I have 2 manglers and might have just gotten 2 more for 90 bucks)
>>98760732>>98760720and one of the reasons they rank as lowly as they do is because they are a missile, you are trading points for fast damage. but so are boingrot bounders, so you have to compare the mangler to a unit of boingrot bounders (they're pretty much the same pts 1 mangler vs 5 bounders) the boss actually does okay, but only if he gets the once per turn ability, as well as his once per army buff which helps squigs out quite a bit if you have a lot of them, so a single boss mangler is actually solid, but you get extreme diminishing returns beyond that, and the non boss mangler is just a wet fart all around
>>98760765Can 5th hit please, I want my ghosts and goblins to be less shit.
>>98760770They'll be monkey-paw'd to be worse. My favorite edition was 2nd and gits were awful there too. I think I only remember them not being remotely shit during 3rd edition, which got them nerfed despite never being the top army.
>really like vampires>blood knights are one of the coolest models in the game>the spearhead no longer exists and everything i look up about the army is just skeletons and zombiesi just want some cool vampires
>>98760778Vampires are strongest part of the game, don't worry anon. Blood knights, ever since the tome was renamed Soulblight, been consistently best unit in the army.
>>98760746the heroes are generally all useful. squig boss has a very strong buff. rabble rowza is great for mangler bosses, squig herd, trugg, dankholds, etc. speeding up the army always helps, and you can combine his effect with the squig bosses effect for even more speed if needed. so there are buffs you can put into them, they just tend to get out competed by the smaller squigs. the ball and chains losing 3 attacks, 1 hit, 1 wound and 2 rend in the rewrite really hurt them. but i wouldnt despair, the game gets rewritten frequently enough that they'll probably get a new warscroll or some new bonus rules sooner or later to help them out.
>>98760784i just wish i could still get the old spearhead for a decent price
>>98760809So let's say hypothetically I got... Reinforced block of stone troggs, trogg boss and whatever the other version of trogg boss is, like every foot hero (skraggy included) 4 manglers and 2 arachnaroks. What the fuck do I do.
>>98760826what do you actually have? make a list. then we'll build an army list
>>987608404 x Mangler Squigs (we'll say one is a boss)2 Arachnaroks. (can be whatever)TroggbossDank Trogg2 Loonbosses1 Rabble RowzaFungoid ShamanDroggz2 Squigboss with Gnasha Gobbapalooza12 Rockgut TroggsSkragrotSpells and terrainwhatever the underworlds wolf squad is calledKragnos? I don't think he's gonna do anything but I have him.
>>98760865kragnos is actually a fantastic unit. he's a nasty beatstick and every unit in the army likes his buff. he can be a good crutch to lean on while you build your army out and figure out what you like. he's also very helpful to the trogg build of gloomspite as they desperately need the speed boost. im seeing a lot troggs. so to get your army off the ground with what you have, i'd lean into troggs to start. something like pic related, its a monster mash list that utilizes krangos's buff with rabble rowzas taunt to make your big guys extremely fast. the rockguts are gonna be your main scoring units, while the troggs and kragnos are gonna break faces. one of the hard parts of aos's 4e, is that most armies, and especially gloomspite gitz, are plagued by something called once per turn (army), a qualifier on a lot of unit special rules that make additional inclusions of that unit beyond the first redundant and ineffective. so we've gotta be conscious of that when making your list, if it looks like we're leaving a lot on the cutting room floor, thats a big reason why. since you dont have any goblins or smaller squigs yet, you're going to have to be agressive on the table since you dont have any screens to shield your units. this is going to be a very pedal to the metal type of army
>>98760960Part of me regrets not snagging more gitz from stormbringer, also if you're wondering the reason I got dupes or random heroes is because of underworlds. I think if I'd go anywhere I'd probably plonk a reinforced unit of boingrots have the troggs be meaty point monkeys.It's a real shame manglers are hot shit because honestly there's a few ways you could buff em. Crit mortals, set attack profiles to like... d6+3 or some shit, or just make them hit slightly more consistently or give them double the amount of attacks. I'm not sure I'll be hopping on the gitz train (most of these models were just obtained from trades or dirt cheap, mostly hobby fodder that wound up with enough to have a full army)
>>98760960Shit I'm sorry, I also didn't say thank you for the input here. apologies, it's late and I probably should get my requisite 6 hours of sleep before work. Thanks anon.
>>98760865>>98760960when you're looking to expand your collection, i would decide if you want to remain a generalist dabbling in all elements, or lean in one direction or another with troggs or squigs. if troggs, then pick up trugg, and maybe even another unit of rockguts or fellwaters (although the fellwaters are an old warhammer fantasy kit and may be retired any day now). if squigs, bounders, hoppers and herd are all good, bounders are probably the best bang for the buck since a single box makes a reinforced unit so thats best value for the money. if you want to remain generalist start getting some hordes of moonclan stabbas. these are useful in any build, but especially if you want to play a board control style list with lots of shaman, which you already have. wolf stuff is a whole other ballgame, much harder to play. its very fast, but pillow fisted, wolf stuff relies on a sort of alpha pin playstyle where you just gum up the board with cheap wolf bodies and screen out objectives all game. tricky to play, easy to lose with. but droggz fits in any style list thanks to his useful general purpose debuff, and a few wolfs here and there can also fit into most lists since they're cheap.
>>98760865NTA but if it's already painted then you could try a monster mash with rockguts on obejctives. It should give you a clear imdication of what you like to play with and what to buy next
I miss fatcast, bros :(
>>98760995The good or bad news is it's a random pile of stuff right now with random bits and bobs painted. (they're my relax and just do fun shit projects) But we'll see, it's a very eclectic pile of stuff.>>98760987Good to know on the bounders honestly... If I went anywhere next it'd be 50/50 squigs and troggs and if 2 boxes of boingrots equate to like 500ish points that ain't bad.
>>98760996The fact they unironically wrote "yeah, the sacrosanct just gave up their search for a cure" is wild
>>98761023Huh, where'd they write that?Last I remember is Sigmar turning a blind eye to them while secretly hoping they succeed.
>>98761030the sacrosanct supplement pack hyperbole, they were recalled and it's stated a few ignored Sigmar's order
>>98761023They have jobs in Azyr, they only left Azyr because spiritual threats became the norm suddenly. No reason to have them hammering down hordes
>>98759457theres some dok talk sometimes but some ppl are incapable of discussing them without an immediate malerion soup this umbraneth soup that, so the discussion dies or devolves really fast. kinda hard to havea discussion
>>98758698>shadespire>harrowdeep>beastgrave + gnarlwoods>embergard>spitewoodWe're only missing one set in hysh and one set in chamon, can gw do it?
>>98761283of course not, off to ghur again!
>>98759457>seraphon>least updates or haven't had one in a while
>>98761169I think it really boils down to there not really being much to talk about with them. They've had a shit unit release and a terrain piece release, there aren't really any rumors involving them floating around, and they're not really doing anything lore-wise. Hell, GW themselves backtracked the last significant DoK lore development by basically deleting the internal schism in the faction.I mean, I've talked about how blood hags being elite infantry is anathema to the visual and thematic design of DoK, but there's only so many times you can talk about DoKs entire visual identity being at odds with modern GW's sensibilities. It'd be great if there was more DoK stuff, but the reality is that they're a niche faction comprised (almost) entirely of mostly naked sexy elf women - which basically means GW avoids them like the plague.
>>98761404>niche faction comprised of XI mean if you really wanna go this road majority of all factions can be boiled down the same way.>theyre just demented paladins in golden armor>theyre just deluded undead who wants to eat flesh>theyre just fish elves who raid for souls 24/7>theyre just green dudes who love good fight>theyre just buffed up dudes who want to chop heads and collect skullsand the list goes onit feels like ppl dont even try with dok nowadays. like where are the robed poisoner crone wizard unit? where named high gladiatrix ? where the monsters from broken mother cauldron? where those prominent named hag queens? early summer WD even had cool lore for Draichi Ganeth arena. so fucking cool!
>>98761169Daughters of khaine are simply not a faction, they're basically just one character, morathi, the units or characters or subfactions underneath her have no interesting traits and the one character they've introduced is so antithetical to the faction than her getting folded into it feels like a letdown.So of course the only thing there is to say about this faction is how better it's going to be once it's inserted into a larger ecosystem to build some interactions and depth with.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/otmn81lv/new-from-black-library-whisperblade/
>>98761639Aaron Taylor-Johnson looking ass
>>98761446I see you missed the "mostly naked sexy elf women" part. Modern GW doesn't really do sexy women, if they can avoid it. Little Timmy's mom is cool with genocide across multiple realms, but draws the line at a woman showing a little too much skin.I mentioned it in my post, but the blood hags are great example of this. They consciously chose to make elite infantry fully clothed and heavily armoured... in the faction who treats fighting in little to no armour or clothing as both a display of skill and a show of religious devotion. It spits in the face of what the DoK are supposed to be. I don't disagree with you, generally, though. But the reality is that GW doesn't want to engage with DoK on any meaningful level, and that drought information and releases translates to limited discourse. Lord knows I'd rather DoK have their range fleshed out with more proper units, but there are a ton of easy options for character model releases that GW simply just doesn't bother exploring or exploiting.It also doesn't help any that for every one person willing to talk about DoK seriously there's two that are either a Mommy Morathi femdomfag or a whinging pseudo-puritan that will dismiss or deride DoK out of hand. Really poisons the well of discourse pretty quickly.
>>98761639Hey it’s a book involving lethis, I’ll take what I can get.
Gonna kill myself if the destruction box for Christmas has Kragnos in it.
>>98761644Is it me or is head too small?
>>98761708is his head*Grug just wake up. Grug no check posts before he send.
>>98761639>>98761644So what’s his deal
>>98761716He's a government spook
>>98761626>the one character they've introduced is so antithetical to the faction than her getting folded into it feels like a letdownThis is actually one thing that really pisses me off about AoS in general. There's this heavy focus on religion in the setting, but there's little to none of the intrafaith conflicts that could add so much more meaning and depth to that focus. The whole Morathi v Krethusa schism being scuttled is just a microcosm of the problem. You just feel it more within the DoK because of how ignored they are as a faction. The whole Hashut being an ancestor god will likely be another case of this. It's an excellent idea with a lot of implications that could flesh out the dwarf factions (especially the HoH and the new Khazalite faction), but it likely won't go anywhere or mean anything being "these factions are enemies".
>>98761716he's hiding the fact he's got nothing to hide, that's shameful for an assassin like him
>>98761639So that two announced AoS BL books to 40k's five?
>>98761767dont worry they are going to announce another 18 imperial guard books next week.
>>98761786I'm surprised they haven't announced a scouring book
>>98761789well its not like they're scouring for releases.
>>98761639I was just thinking how cool and purple Lethis is. This was written for me.
>tqreleased to combo with kragnos 99% reused assets
>>98761644What the hell is this idiotic design?It'd be so hard to draw the sword and the scabbard would be flapping about like an epileptic bird that just flew into a window.
>>98761909If you can’t appreciate excessive belts and buckles in fantasy make your own art
>>98761909I’ve seen it done before in non warhammer media but I’ve never understood the justification for it.
>>98761732>The whole Morathi v Krethusa schism being scuttledYou mean like how slaanesh was totally going to be killed?
>>98761702Cool, can I get your stuff?
>>98761882He has a distinct role serves as a bridge between subfactions. Not bad for an alt sculpt
>>98762010Welcome back, chaos gargant
>>98762010this is the second time they mention chaos dwarf giants, surely it's not just a reference to the old model, is it?
>>98760028nta anon but you're a fool if you think they're not going to rename the game in the next 10 yearsseeing the newest releases become more and more bland and closer to whfb, a shift in the game's tone to grimdark and even aping the old world in name makes what going on painfully obvious.This is somehow above the cope denial level that thunderstrike wasn't signaling the old stormcast leaving the game, or that warcry is still alive just because GW didn't post an article saying so.
>>98762050Just build your warstomper mega.
>>98762058it's just not the same if it's not armoured up, mang
>>98761946Take your pick, honestly. There's a ton of examples. Remember Kragnos? GW sure doesn't.
>>98761639story blurb actually sounds pretty cool. i got a hunch the mysterious menace is a bonereaper character maybe a named mortis reaper and the fortress is a bonereaper one with nadirite weaponry
>>98762051Yeah I agree model range updates are the exact same thing renaming and changing a game
>It's another thread shitting on KragnosLike clockwork
>>98762099Yeah I do I also remember this general having this issue with extremes and blowing things out of proportion. Every single day is an Orktober here
>>98762051None of that has anything to do with changing the name. You can slap on all the "wow if you can't see this..." you like but it doesn't strengthen your argument. Besides, the shift to mudcore is overstated. We got this thing not half a year agoSimilaely, the grimdarkening is aping 40k, not whfb. Whfb was never grimdark.
>>98762051>nta anon but you're a fool if you think they're not going to rename the game in the next 10 yearsthe rumour is that the next edition will have a name change. not within the next ten years retardthis is your brain on Boole
>>98762183This army shoulda been renamed "Hammerhal Aqsha the Army" when they started doing this CoS revamp bullshit
>>98762183>never grimdark It did when it underwent 40kification post 6th edition. It’s part of why most of the vampire stories are so bad.
>>98762183Cogfort is one of the least grimdark models they've ever released tho
Does kragnos count as a foot hero?
>>98762283
>>98762366This is very upsetting.
>>98762207Yeah but that's the thing, that's not the rumour. No leaker ever claimed such a thing, it's just something that people took and ran with for some reason.
>>98762183Basically everything wrong with modern GW comes back to 40K. it's their least creative, most profitable product, so GW is forever dreaming of making everything else just as bland and corporate as their flagship setting.
>>98762011Which subfactions? Troggoths if you run Dankholds which no one does or spiders which are obviously getting squatted?
>>98761946that absolutely was the case until gw backtracked on it
>>98762515I don't care for it all personally but imo you can't really call 40k bland or unoriginal. It's just that changing your more niche game(s) to be more like the bigger more popular game is always going to suck, no matter the quality of the bigger game.I sometimes wonder how stormcast would've been received if space marines didn't exist. Paladins are a pretty standard fantasy trope, and making them art deco of all things is a pretty unique twist. But of course, at the end of the day, space marines DO exist and they're clearly aping them, so it just feels kind of meh.
>>98762550I mean stormcast would still get some hate since the pivot from warhammer fantasy focused on normal humans doing their best to fight incomprehensible horrors vs the new epic superhumans who annihilate chaos would always ruffle some feathers. Now granted people do kinda downplay that fantasy humans did have a lot of pretty big advantages in terms of tech and magic and people also kinda gloss over cities of sigmar that carries a lot of fantasy’s spirit but that’s public perception for you.
>beardless female dwarfsis woke dead?!
>>98762605this has always been the case...
>>98762607They should still have long braided hair that is visible on the models
>>98762610I mean, the named hero lady does but the frontline jobbers don't. Helsmith lady doesn't have visible hair because she has her funny big hat.
>>98762550When I say 40K is bland and unoriginal, I'm not really talking about the original conception of the setting. I'm talking about it's current status as a bland corporate product that gets 90% of it's revenue from reposing the same space marine designs over and over and over and over again. Almost everything modern 40K puts out is just the same characters and same models, same memes and sloppy story developments, regurgitated endlessly.
>>98759313Ironjawz just got 4+ non-foot hero kits only a few years ago, their 2nd wave was almost as big as Chorfs entire release
>>98762610Agreed but that's another matter.But yeah look at picrel, really shows the difference braids -even short ones- make on a female dwarf model. While we're at it I also really like the fur lining on her outfit, I wonder if it would help the basic infantry if they also had something like that going on.
>>98759459>Also stormcasts are talked about a decent amount although with a lot more negativity then most.Ruination chamber stuff finally hit the nail on the head for me, wish the whole army was themed that way
>>98762643I'm just amazed they have boobplate
>>98762209>This army shoulda been renamed "Hammerhal Aqsha the Army" when they started doing this CoS revamp bullshitWhy? With Cogforts it's more Greywater Fastness than ever before
>>98762648I like the angrier depiction but not a particular fan of them being nigh catatonic. I think they're a nice step towards the kind of... Angry over the topness of the fatcasts, alongside being slimcast.
>>98762651It's Brunhilde-style boob plate; they get it because they are fat, and thus it's not a sexual titillation thing for heterosexual men
>>98762642??? We only have 6 kits total that aren’t foot heroes (not counting terrain, spells, or kragnos)
>>98762668they're not fat, they're short and stacked!
>>98762657It seems like they still have varying degrees of personalities, but they're far more "Gregorian Monk Paladins coming out of the scary monastary to save the village" which is frankly cool as hell
>>98762672Yeah and half of those came out recently ArdboyzBig pigRagersOf which those 3 kits make 6 units
>>98762673They are almost spherical, that's not a short stack anymore
>>98762682Original post said 4+ kits, not units. Also ardboys were a refresh of an existing unit rather than a new one, if that makes any difference for scoring. Meanwhile chorfs got 7 non foot hero kits
>>98762721It was 4+ kits, the boss totem came out too.
>>98762648>wish the whole army was themed that wayBut it is.
>>98762738Why are we counting terrain?
>>98762525Yeah, those two. Just because he might not be super meta doesn't mean he doesn't have purpose. Also, I just checked woehammer just now and he was in a first gsg list I found, in the first article I clicked https://woehammer.com/2026/10/01/top-three-aos-lists-for-the-burning-river-open-2026/
>>98762152Sex with her>>98762573Plus fantasy also had plenty of superhumans of its own, the Empire just didn’t have a whole faction of them like that
>>98762643do we know if the generic hero will have a male head? the fact that this body is unisex lends me to think so. Plus, the chorf bull statue had male and female options for the generic version so it would complete the >dark mirror>>98762994>Plus fantasy also had plenty of superhumans of its own, the Empire just didn’t have a whole faction of them like thatfunnily enough I saw some tow on tow verbal violence about this very topic on xitter the other day
>>98763210He's right, you know.
>>98763220power scalers and realismspergs are never right
>>98763254wfg has a few of those historical guys who just want to write all the fantasy out of fantasy. its annoying as fuck
>>98763210These people just need to play Black Powder or Barons War instead of WFB
OBR, soulblight, or trees for my next spearheadAlso aside from eBay any good places to find older spearhead boxes
>>98763507Maybe seeing if you can score a deal on Google’s shop tab. Got my Lyrior for $47.50 from a random hobby store when he was going for $65 before the price hikes.
>>98762643I tried to do a couple mockups but my 10 000 hours in mspaint are not really sufficient for this taskanyway yeah I feel like the fur lining would help the basic troops get a bit more pizazz. The elaborate armour of the thryng could also work
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>>98762960meta and comp shit is irrelevant, he's pitiable because he isn't fun and has a lazy sculpt
>>98763691incredible how hjulda and the blonde on the boat are the only two good female faces they sculpted
>>98759094Given much of the Khorne range that's not saying much.
>>98763735The best sculpt there was the lord on juggernaut and they fucking squatted it
How are the LRL these days? Considering getting them, but hoping I can run them all as males. Their shooting seemed interesting to me.
>>98763873They’re fine. Now that river blades can be reinforced they’re gonna be fuckin annoying. It helps they didn’t get an early battletome.>hoping I can run them all as malesThis is the strangest goal I’ve seen someone want out of elves. Like I’m not judging you, but even in 40K the dudes are wearing panties and bras with their power armor so you get desensitized to the sexes of pointy ears.
>>98763873Fun but with overall okay to bad units held up by really good named heroes and the Enlightener. Pretty middle of the road performance wise right now.You absolutely cannot do all males without trading out models from another set.
>>98763884I want them to be a homage to my childhood High Elf army. All dudes being dudes with the same color scheme.
>>98761639I like stories where the mcs mentality crumbles. I hope this delivers on that, ideally without chaos involvement.
>>98763693His sculpt is nothing special but sneaky grot who leads monsters by being annoying is fun and worked great in dawnbringers. I really don't get the hate when there are FS and IDK heroes in the race to the bottom
>>98763563>>98763691Man, it's really the double whammy of shitty facial structure and no/short hair that really fucks the female Khazalite dwarfs. I mean, most of the Helsmith shit suffers from the same issue, but at least you can pretend they have a bunch of hair piled up under their tall helmets. >>98763721It was brought up in the other thread, but the female champion from the infernal razers is one of the only decent-looking female dwarf faces. I'd prefer she look more feminine, but she still manages to pass the low bar that basically every other female dwarf model fails to clear.Her concept art has some real "fuck me" lashes, for some reason, though.
>>98763990the power is always there anon. If there's one thing I always say, you can make just about anything look good if you get in there and follow that old SoB japanese face guide on pretty female faces. I'm sure if someone was dedicated they could make every lady dorf fuckable.
>>98763990the vingrim salvagers look decent too when they're painted by anyone other than eavy metal
>>98763990For a weird evil dwarf lady with tusks she ain't too bad.Still, would've liked some braids (in ringlets) on the sculpts though I will not stop complaining about a lack of braids until gw learns.
>>98762544Damn GW flanderized their setting so bad that like a beaten wife people would rather believe a conspiracy theory than think something could be different
>>98764033Until 'eavy metal learns that people need eyebrows and not cavemen head bumps this will continue happening.
>>98762668>it's not a sexual titillation thing for heterosexual menI think you should speak for yourself
>>98763990Why do we keep having these long reply chains talking about how GW sucks at faces this is like saying the sky is blue. It’s not even women this is limited to or fantasy or AoS why is this always a conversation
>>98764012I'm a believer in the tutorial, anon, but I don't think even it can salvage some of these faces. Mind you, I haven't actually seen anyone try, so it might be doable, but my gut tells me it's fucked. >>98764033Got any examples? I'd be curious to see.>>98764049I just want dwarf females to actually look like females. The hair is part of that - even better if they're braided -, but so are things like softer faces and breasts. Part of why the Hjulda model works so well is that she has all three of those things.
>>98764057yeah, i never judge female models until i see some decent painters get their hands on them.that said, the vongrim models absolutely understood the assignment when it came to making dwarven women giving them all long braids, a lesson that the helsmiths and khazalites seem to have completely missed. i dont think a single female helsmith model has any visible hair whatsoever, as far as i can tell they're all bald shaven under those helms. they look like little ogres. the khazalites at least have some hairstyles, but for whatever reason they went with short cropped soccer mom hairstyles on most of them instead of anything remotely dwarven.
>>98764077>single female helsmith model has any visible hair whatsoeverTbf if a helsmith has no hat, they also have a shaved head so I imagine that's pretty universal with them.
>>98763210Reinforcing my incontrovertibly true belief that TOWfags are just historicalfags too midwitted to actually play historicals.
>>98764057I feel bad for the eavy metal guys who catch a lot of flak for this stuff when of course these are all highly competent people that know the style sucks on female faces. It's just that they're generally mandated to paint in that specific style for marketing reasons. They're able to do more their own thing in more niche releases, and you can really see the insane shit these people are capable of. Darkwater blight templars are a good example.>>98764077I don't like the vongrim because their balloons look like backpacks but I do really like the face second from the left on the bottom. Really shows what braids can do.
>>98764143>I feel bad for the eavy metal guys who catch a lot of flak for this stuff when of course these are all highly competent people that know the style sucks on female faces. It's just that they're generally mandated to paint in that specific style for marketing reasons. They're able to do more their own thing in more niche releases, and you can really see the insane shit these people are capable of. Darkwater blight templars are a good example.That's the thing, I'm sure these are all fantastic people but I imagine GW's mandate is "You have to see EVERY DETAIL on a white background. Keep it simple." And it's not like I'm implying I'm some amazing painter, fuck no, I just wish GW would take fucking note of this shit.
>>98764154Yeah it's probably some shit like that, every detail has to stand out, all the models have to be recognizably part of the same brand and hence the same paint style, etc.But damn you'd think by now it would have come up in a meeting or something that this simply doesn't look very good on female faces. This is actually costing them money (alright probably not a whole lot but still)
Godeaters son is a shitty character, and dude writing about him has no clues about chaos.Scourge of fate was much better.
>>98763210Wait a minute, that username...>>98764104To be fair to towfriends this person has never played a game in their lifeThis is a grade A secondary
i'd say thats actually pretty cohesive
>>98763835this is literally the exact same model as the 40k one
>>98764459>>98763210>>98764104Realismfags are a blight in every fanbase>>98763254At least power scalers know how to have fun with a setting, even if some can get overenthusiastic
>>98764579I think the problem is that realism often gets conflated with being logically coherent. A setting doesn't, strictly speaking, have to be "realistic", but it does have to be consistent with its logic. Rules in a setting need to be applied or broken with the same level of consideration. People, like the fag in >>98763210 image, are fucked from the get-go because they're basically refusing to deal with the setting on its own terms. Instead, they opt to plaster their own arbitrary logic over it and claim the setting is "broken" based on that.
>>98764539Nah the fantasy one posemogs
What the fuck was the point in squatting the soul grinder it’s barely used in any system aside from maybe being a proxy for the defiler in 40K. Does HH or even tow have any fucking rules for it?
>>98763873Is getting an early battle tome bad? Since editions are only 3 years I assumed that power creep wouldn’t be too bad especially since you get balance changes. Is this why people say the skaven suck since they got the first tome.
>>98765082>Is getting an early battle tome bad?Almost always yes. It's not even so much about just power-creep, early battletomes always get written to be super basic and boring while they get all cool and experimental with mid to late edition tomes.
>>98764655I think it's just humanity fuck yeah taken to a bit of an annoying extreme. The fantasy version of "those" 40k guard fans.>>98765063Can't imagine it was a great selling kit. But yeah I think tow has rules for it? Always felt a bit off in fantasy, I've never seen one in aos either. Maybe back in the day when chaos had more overlap with 40k and it was more mechanical it could work but these days...>Inb4 blacksteel autarchy soulgrinder
>>98765126>blacksteel autarchy Part of me is looking forward to seeing whatever this is but at the same time I’m annoyed it’s another chaos thing
>>98765161You see it's absolutely vital that StD get another subfaction bolted on
Any advice for painting rat ogres? Just got started and it’s a fucking pain to tell what’s skin, fur, and ripped skin/exposed flesh. I’ll probably have rakarth flesh for the exposed areas and use bugmans glow everywhere else for the non ripped skin. I’m still thinking of fur colors. I’ll probably start with a light brown from mournfang brown but I dunno what to do for the other two. Any other flesh tones or fur colors that would be good for them?
>>98765367Use the webstore images for reference as to what is fur vs skin.
>>98765367is that primed. I can never really tell with grey.
>>98765454Yup. Standard mechanicus grey.>>98765445Yeah I’ve been trying to do that. Still a pain since there are limited angles but It’s still a blast painting. Ngl I thought painting would be boring as shit but I’m honestly enjoying it more than actually playing which is a surprise. Not that playing is bad but I’ve only played spearhead so far and I’ve gotten pretty unlucky with scheduling.
>>98765497Welcome to the club bubs
Trying to figure out a color to do for skryre armor, I wasn't sure if I wanted to mix my super bright green with my dark green and split the difference while doing the cloth beige and dark green green traditional skryre colors, or should I rip the ikkit claw armor color for all my stormvermin, warlocks, etc
>>98764655I agree, but like you say, what those people are taking issue is the setting itself which is silly, then they get upset and want to force it to be something else. Very annoying.
>>98765536I always liked his very dark blue bordering on black, could be pretty unique too
Trying to build a decent khorne list, so far I've got ×20 bloodwarriors ×30 blood reavers Mighty Lord of KhorneBloodsecratorBloodstokerRealmgore ritualistSlaughterpriest Skullgrinder Claws of karanakI've seen people say the skullcrushers arent all they're cracked up to be but seemingly no one plays khorne so info is scarce. Is there a particular box that would help me or is it primarily just getting wrathmongers?
>>98765599Did some tests on a random model I was gonna try a silver base with some blue speed paint but so far I do like the dark blue mixed with black right right now
>>98765682Wrathmongers are generally a safe bet for Khorne, they're just a nice little support unit and look cool as shit.
>>98764065>why is this always a conversation50% gooners 50% culture war shit
>>98765367what >>98765445 said, don't forget on the GW website for a lot of single model views you can click this and get a full rotation as well as an upper angle look at the model, it helped me a lot when i painted my clawlord on gnawbeast.if you're looking for other skin and fur colors though, cadian fleshtone with gorthor brown is a nice color scheme if you want your guy to have a bit more of a saturated look to the skin, but painting them all rakarth flesh with variations of brown fur is a pretty good idea.
khazalites not getting an anvil of doom was a fail
>>98765740The cannon dudes kinda have that goin on
>>98765740The original pizza oven...
>>98765740We don’t even have demigryph knights yet fuck off and wait
>>98765832yes we do, we've had them for 3 editions now what the fuck are you talking about?
>>98765709Exactly, there's always a few schizos who roll through.Admittedly we've had a significant drop in named schizos recently which is nice.
>>98765852>we don’t have X>yes, we have Y :)3 more years added to the wait for your anvil congratulations
>>98765909Nta but I thought vanguard palladors were a nice replacement for dgks. And I REALLY liked dgks.
>>98765909they are demigryph knights. you have a plate armor wearing knight wielding a polearm on a demigryph. yes there are some aesthetic differences, but this is age of sigmar, everything is aesthetically different from the old whfb kits. just look at the difference between the old freeguild empire state troops and the new steelhelms or fusiliers.
>>98765947Empire State troops kind of mogged, in retrospect
>>98765973I like the cross bow. I don’t really care for everything else. I am gonna miss when humans had heroic proportions though.
>>98765852These ones are honestly super cool one of my favorite mounts overall
>>98765852>>98766063NTA, but I personally LOVE these that they got this edition. Shame their rules are apparently cheeks and also suffer the 3-man cav curse. They're even closer to Demigryph Knights, I'd say.
>>98766134>>98765852once you get past the boring as unbuttered toast basic infantry, stormcast really does have an excellent range all around. if i were telling a new player what to do when getting into stormcast, it would be to just skip the basic dudes all together
>>98766134these idoneth microtransgressions are getting out of hand
>>98766175Reclusians alone almost got me to start them as my 3rd army. They're so fucking cool. I actually like most of the SCE range, but they still have a bloated range that makes balancing hell, vulnerable to further cullings, and their playstyle is much more glass-cannony than their big bulky armor lets on.
>>98765973i dont know who this model is for, but its not me. no thankyou
>>98766191if you build them very elite and hero hammery, its a ridiculously easy army to collect. especially with stormbringer flooding the market with cheap models every now and then
>>98766200I actually built, mold line cleaned, and primed a whole Dominion half before giving it to my friend because I couldn't come up with a color scheme I liked.
>>98766194It's for me? Duh? Who are your minis for?
>>98764143>>98764154I refuse to believe people who paint eyes inside Chaos Warrior helmet visier can't paint eyebrows
I wish vlad came back instead of manchild von cuntpain
>>98763210The premise is retarded and false.1) Many empire knightly orders have magical powers (usually the inner circle).2) Questing knights do not have any magical powers and yet are statistically better fighters (better weapon skill, higher strength).Grail knights are grail knights because they're the best knights of an entire nation of knights. They're some of the best fighters of the old world -before- receiving the lady's blessings.
