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>>98759169>the mutant from the mark of chaos teaserhttps://youtu.be/iUKsb03Rnf0
>>98759208Mark of chaos had the best cinematics. Warhammer online is a close second.
>>98759208>mark of chaosBased. I used to just watch those and the MMO trailers in a loop
>>98759280This looks so much better colored
>>98759611I still enjoy the WAR trailers and play on RoR. Good shit, nothing like Waaaghing as a Choppa and going into pvp.
>>98759705>play on RoRI gave it a go but ultimately didn't stick to it. I'm still mad WoW got as popular as it did and every MMO after copied their soulless quest design and game mechanics
>>98759711The gameplay is ok if you find a class you enjoy, but mostly I treat it like a way to see Fantasy maps/environments/locations "in person" so to speak.
>>98759711>>98759725The whole point of RoR/WHO was the pvp. No one did the quests outside of PQ's. You were supposed to level through pvp in scenarios and world pvp.
>>98759725Yeah I get that. To me it just felt like a Warhammer Fantasy skin on top of WoW, and as someone who always preferred the quests of Runescape or combat like Tera that was just no fun. The "core" felt rotten and no class would make it okay. If I want to play in Fantasy maps/locations I've got Mountain Blade and the Old Realms mod
>>98759749I get that, my go-to MMO was City of Heroes. AoR/RoR was mostly just for the Warhammer Fantasy flavor and experience.
>>98759742From a gameplay perspective that's definitely true, but for me reading the quests and looking at the environments back in the day was my introduction to Warhammer, so I still have a lot of fondness for them. Still remember helping a guy in the chaos area get a nurgling out of his armpit, and collecting teef for orcs. It was a really cool game that did a lot of things right, and I still blame EA almost entirely for fucking it up.The collector's edition orc warboss mini still leads my greenskins in battle now.
>>98759777>The collector's edition orc warboss mini still leads my greenskins in battle now.NTA but same here!
On the subject of flying castles, this Lustrian pyramid would actually be an incredible terrain mood piece and wouldn't disrupt gameplay or playability because it would sit above the table
I tire of the sloppers who refuse to stay in their containment threads and have to pollute this website and the world.
Skeletons this weekend?
>>98759169Is being so angry that you stick something into your butt more Khorne or Slaanesh?
>>98760068I'm so ready for VC
>>98759705I tried recently on marauder and found the t1 rvr to be kinda shityou have no damage and healers are immortal
Is there anything more brown coded than posting the same slop over and over just to try and annoy others?It's not even good bait, I swear.
>>98760240Actually for real, he's farming -izzat
>>98760240Yes: letting it bother you
>>98760240Workings, or lack thereof, of the indian mind are a mystery.
>Want to make a Mountain King final boss for WHFRP since I've hyperfixated on the Mountain King theme from Bramble (alongside the Scandinavian folklore aesthetic.)Is it really just as simple as using Throgg? Can I do that in Current Year? He's both an enormous troll and a king, kinda sorta, so it makes sense. I was tempted to go for the last Sky-Titan but the campaign's already aiming for Nordland/Ostland with a possible venture into Kislev, so Throgg makes sense.
>>98760072Why are the gravestones crossesIs Jesus in warhammer lol
>>98759169>Vorgaroth gets retconned into being a fantasy character as the khornate brotherI sleep easier at night thinking it was just an AoS abomination so I shall not accept this.Did they even sell him for a full year? lmao
>>98760888Lot of fantasy settings use crosses as a holy symbol, it's kinda jarring
>>98760950>Sigmar living rent free in the heads of TWW secondariesYou love to see it lol
>>98760955thought this was actually going to be a good crossover than I heard it was AoS and lost interest
>>98760966It's literally an AoS model. I was there when it released 3000 years ago.
Are the army books the only place to get Ogre Lore/Narratives? I imagine they haven’t had a dedicated novel but even just something where they’re a prominent part of seems to be hard to come by.
>>98761035Wild kingdoms? Not ogre perspective obviously but a decent read.
>Want to get into Old World>Go to the only LGS that's not over an hour away.>No minis, only some rulebooks on discount>Got pic related for $20 when it's $50 in store.Did Old World,,, fail?
>>98760312If I learned anything from playing and running games, then that people love big dumb monsters that speak and show some surprising amount of intelligence (for their kind).
>>98760955oy vey
>>98761055You know we live in the digital age right, grandpa? order today and some illegal will bring it to your front door the very next day.
>>98761055depends on the lgs
>>98761082I'd honestly have them deported instead. Press of battle for monstrous infantry WHEN??
Does anyone have Oasis Mercenaries models from Max Mini? I wonder what's their scale and what do they look like next to GW models but there's barely any pics on the internet with them.
>>98761086>Press of battle for monstrous infantry WHEN??hopefully never
>>98761094Why not?
>>98761097I dont want ogres to be better
>>98761099Fair enough, but I disagree.
>>98761099Bold words from someone in eating range, little 'un.
>98759280>98759627>98760015>98760269Wrong thread, buddy >>98749027
>>98760950The rider looked a bit better at one point, before they decided to downgrade him and his spot for some weird as fuck reason.
>>98759169>what do you do for the slaaneshi one so it's similarly noteworthy?Centaurs are underused for slaanesh, so he should be one.
>>98761315Still not a fan but at least it looks like something instead of a molten heap.
Question to people deeper into the lore than me: do dwarf priests get any kind of powers that would make them somewhat unique on the table or are they just normal dwarfs?
>>98761515Normal Dwarfs with runic tools. In Daemonslayer there is a dwarf priestess fighting but she gets killed by the Bloodthirster
>>98761515They get the ability to make temporary runes with the specific runes dependent on which ancestor god they focus on
>>98761521>>98761528Hmm, what if they became a unit with like 100 points for runes but the choice of the god would dictate what units they can join (mostly doom priest joining slayers while the others can't) and what runes they can take (doom priest can only take weapon runes, forge priest can only take armor runes and hearth priest can only take talisman runes) with the ability to grant the benefit of one of their non-master runes to their whole unit for a turn but using that rune up, so for example a forge priest could use up his rune of stone to grant armor save rerolls to his unit for a turn.
>>98761515Just normal dwarfs who get to cast and dispel spells by using runes instead of innate magical powers.If you were to try and expand the types of rune priests you could try to make up new runes and specialisations into the various forms of runecraft.>this runepriest is the best at making and enchanting armor and equipment and buffs its own combat capabilities, and the combat capabilities of nearby heroes and units>this runepriest is the best at unmaking spells, banishing demons, spooking ghosts, and shutting down the enemy's enchantments>this runepriest inscribes runes in the fucking ground to reshape the environment, move friendly and enemy units alike, and even make or unmake hills, walls and ravines>this runepriest crafts symbols of power to carry on high, they uplift and reinvigorate the spirits and tired bodies of their allies and instill shame and dread in the enemies >this runepriest comes from the older runic traditions of the norse dwarfs and is closer to a lightnings-spitting sword-swinging sorcerous barbarian than a priest >this runepriest comes from the more progressive schools of runecrafts and their applications on machines and advanced contraptions>this runepriest is actually just a fucking gnome that uses both runes and genuine spellcasting, alchemy, illusionism and elementalism>this runepriest uses forbidden runes and terrible methods, he's not allowed amongst normal dawi, and you're not allowed to know what he does, you can't have him
>>98761354Ah yes, blood demon, frog demon, ostrich daemon, and pan
>>98761062Yeah, no, I’m starting to formulate the plot. The best part is that the campaign structure feels easy to conjure.Campaign name>In the Thrall of the Mountain KingFirst arc>Do No Harm>The PCs go to Saltakan (butchering the name, I’m outside working - it’s the failing port in I think Ostland) to pay respects to a brilliant physician that touched each of their lives. He leaves them each a piece of a puzzle hidden in an heirloom and asks them to pay their final respects at a tavern in town. They learn there’s a conspiracy with the Physicians Guild in Salzenmund which culminates in them discovering Festus the Leechlord has been advising the use of troll flesh for woundsSecond Arc>Here Be Monsters>PCs learn the troll meat was supplied by some hunters in Middenheim, cue both urban and Drakwald shenanigansThat’s what I’ve got so far, butchering the names and specifics but they’re all things I know are in either Sea of Claws or Salzenmund.
>>98762301Do Trolls live in dense forests?It seems like one of the few biomes where they are scarce.I guess you can't just make the trolls come from the Schadensumpf
>>98762333Trolls are everywhere! They could come from the Middle Mountains, which gives extra hooks with the Brass Keep and Goblins.
>>98762360True, I just saw you say Drawkwald and assumed you would make the PCs go southwest from Middenheim rather than east
>>98762360>>98762333The hook after the monster hunters is that they’re getting paid in very rare herbs which are revealed to be from the Bile Lands, which takes them to Erengrad and then Troll Country. The Mountain Halls of Throgg makes for a very folkloric finale, he’s even got a quartz throne (and princes and princesses as hostages!)
>>98762333>>98762381If its an issue, just say there's a cave in the woods, problem solved
>>98762367The Drakwald is just so iconic of Middenland that I need to find ways to use it. Could even be unrelated to the whole Throgg business; the campaign takes place as Toddy’s getting out of his dead wife funk and will take his first expedition into the Drakwald, leading to Khazrak and that bloody feud. Getting the Graf’s admiration is always useful for authorizing expeditions of their own.
>>98762394You’re falling into a common GM trap; just because there’s cool stuff in the campaign area doesn’t mean you HAVE to use it. If you need to use the Drakwald than use it while they’re going from Salzenmund to Middenheim.
cover reveal for the Wreckers Point book i think this was announced like three years ago now>‘There’s not much there... other than backwards folk, raiders, smugglers, wreckers, goblins, elves in the woods, weird old ruins… alright, take that back. There is stuff there, but nothing you’d want to see if you have your head screwed on. It’s a wild, remote hinterland and you can keep it.’>Ida Haufmann, Beeckerhoven merchant>Far to the north and west of the Empire, Wrecker’s Point is a forlorn and windswept headland, buffeted by storms and spray from the Sea of Claws. A few smallholders attempt to eke out a living from the soil, while adventurous sorts chase rumours of lost treasure to find, ancient sites to explore, and bounties to win by bringing dangerous outlaws to justice.>The Jutone Riding, as the area is also known, is a border region, defined by the Sea of Claws to the north, the mysterious Laurelorn Forest to the south, and the fetid marshes of the Wasteland to the west. Its isolated nature makes it a haven for pirates, cutthroats, and all manner of shady characters.>https://cubicle7games.com/en_EU/blog/wreckers-point-cover-revealConsidering this is done by the same writer as the Salzenmund book, I do have some hopes for this one
>>98762457I’m not expecting anything serious with this one, but a freeholder career and some solid hooks leading into Marienburg would be exactly what I want out of this.
>next new army isn't kislev>it's bretonnian vampires>coming with bret refresh in a vs boxsource: my hopes and fucking dreams
Don’t get your hopes for the barrow kingdoms aoi it seems
>>98763167why was anyone getting their hopes up again? just for the name? when it's clearly just a push for the new kangs cavalry and skeletons?
>>98763167What new info has come out?
>>98763167What do you mean? I just assumed it would be just rules for Tomb Kings army with shit like Ushabti replaced by a generic 'Barrow construct', *maybe* rules for a Necromancer if we're lucky, then some blurb going "Kitbash your tomb kings with chaos marauder bits to give a Barrow like appearance :)".Are we not getting that?
>>98761923Pan was a satyr (or a god that looked like one)
>>98762930That would be pretty cool, I have seen some great Mousillon conversions
>>98763245>>98763193>>98763276Whitefang (AoS leaker with 100% hit rate) reacted to a post asking if there would be ghosts and other VC stuff in the AoI with a sad face.
>>98761713Most of those sound like weird book ideas rather than game ideas.
>>98763355Yeah, Pan is a god, who makes a cameo in The Wind in the Willows as a sort of god of the countryside and animals
There is going to be a Q&A tomorrow.There might be TOW stuff in it
>>98764118I wouldn't expect jack shit
>>98763744those thick blue highlights look atrocious
Assembled a few more Gors for my warherd
>greyposting The state of this slow ass general
Hey, fellow peasants, I'm looking for help with my Halloween one shot (or 3 session scenario depending on the length)I'm working on a murder mystery scenario for 2e, available careers are noble state related (kennelmaster, bailiff, servant, etc)During a Noble party celebrated during Geheimnisnacht (they "celebrate" with a mutant hunt on the surrounding forest and during the night they have a banquet), a snow storm hits the state and they all stay inside the walled state however someone kills the Master and the killer is amongst the invited guests or staff (maybe because the Master was planning something sinister and the killer, at the end, it's technically a hero?)So (WIP from this point) besides the storm, there's a horde of Beastmen on its way (a wendigo perhaps?) and they have to resolve the mystery because 1) despite being an asshole it was the players "beloved" (depends on the player) master or at least the one paying them and he was supposed to pay them by the end of the festivities, 2) they have to resolve this before the Beastmen come and overrun the place, if they or anyone else try to leave before that the invited Witch Hunter or Imperial authority like a local Roadwarden or a really loyal Man-at-Arms will execute themHe is not guilty for various reasons but cannot solve this on his own cuz he was incapacitated (he brings the news of the Beastmen horde or he was hurt during the hunt, depends on the type of career he is)Also even if they could sneak past this individual they wouldn't get far with the storm and because, huh, IT'S FUCKING GEHEIMNISNACHT3) I'm doubtful if I should add a "hidden treasure" element, you know, a red herring for the players, maybe that's why the Master was killed but also something to tempt them to try to get it before everything gets fucked
>>98764456>a snow storm hits the stateisn't that rather early in the year for that? Like if some place in Germany got covered in a freak snowstorm on halloween that would be pretty weird.The closest thing to Wenigo in Warhammer isn't really Beastmen, but something like a Mourngul, so maybe change it to some undead threat that rose due to Geheimnisnacht.I'm not really sure what you're asking for help on anon sounds like you made a basic Who Dunnit Scenario, and so long as you make it a fair mystery for your players there shouldn't be any problems. On point 3, including a least one red herring is probably a good idea, but maybe not a hidden treasure since I think most players would expect a double subversion there and it ends up being something completely worthless and just ignore it
>>98764425I think a lot of posters lost interest in the thread, considering the absolute state of it recently.
>>98764667>recentlyI was here about two, three years ago now? Despite being low population there was rampant shitposting, like the dipshit telling everyone they're in the wrong general. Slower generals can't take that sort of abuse, people will just be turned away and not bother with the thread. So no it's not just "recent" and yes I'm not really surprised
Are cannons just protected from other cannons on hills since the crunch change? If I read it right, the cannonball always crunches into the hill much like it would a builder or monsterous creature/behemoth.
>>98765001It's protected from the roll, RAW, but not if your opponent manages to bullseye your cannon.
What is the most underdog faction, where you basically play as scum? And how good is said faction? As someone who is interested but likely won't ever play.
>>98765431Skaven?
