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>>98762890Generals are the same as discord servers. They breed the same sort of faggot. There is no escape.
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>>98762886Here the imgchesthttps://imgchest.com/p/o24ajkwz34lGood cyoa, never posted my build but I remember it was the best.And here is the Lopsided power vs comfort cyoa as well.Power >>> Comfort btw.
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>>98762888Can your build defeat Mai?
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>>98762916If I did that sorcererkiller would get mad at me.
>>98762906heh, bait, everyone knows that comfort is leagues ahead of power.
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>>98762916most of them can't directly kill her in a reasonable amount of time if that's what you meanmost of them can just walk around her and fuck with things she cares about though
>>98762886It is pleasantly yellow.
>>98762906Comfort is ironically more powerful than Power lol lmao even
>>98762933Damn, that's just like Chain of Isekai where the comfort option is mechanically stronger than all the tryhard options
>>98762925Nope. Power can get conform. But with Conform you will never have that kind of power>>98762933The author already answered to this. It isn't.As Comfort you could send a splatoon of super clan soldiers and Power alone would defeat them all.Power is the strongest being in the planet with a GREAT difference.
Best cyoaoios of all time?
>>98762948Entropiss
>>98762932Like the piss from my anime 2D waifu!!
>>98762951Is that softie?
>>98762959Eww. Get that garbage out of here.
If anon hates my build so much, what build should I do then? Anons keep telling me to do more physical builds so i'm looking at that.
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>>98762964Basic bitch physical start is the core and phase legend statuses. You don't need limitless meridians. Pick one or two more core or phase legendary techniques that you think go well with the two legend statuses. Martial and weapon arts are highly relevant, but not the only option. If you want to get spicy, drop one of the two legend statuses and get another regular legendary technique.
>>98762958Lol, lmao. He whishes he ccccould me like me. XD
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>>98762964Space-Slipping Spine deserves more love
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>>98762973>Basic bitch physical start is the core and phase legend statuses.wronganon...
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>>98762978imagine combining it with paradox pointstill not wonky mystical enough to compete with a lot of other techniques at the same price tier though
>>98762988tok...
>>98762959Much better CYOA than Spirit Conscript!
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>>98762988It's correct. That combo alone beats purebodyfag's wildest dream of 160 aura being devoted for example. And you permanently hit a lot harder after beating someone like that.
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>>98762997Said pca. Tears in his eyes.
>>98762888Ronin Redo. Not having Prodigy or any Investigation skill failed to fit the build identity, so Meridians were Limited and aura got buffed. Is it just me or are almost all of the techniques not written with projectile weapons in mind? I'm sure they can mostly be made to work, but it wasn't a focus.>Body – Human>Potential – Mutated (35 AP, 5 EP, 4M,3B)>Conscription – Insurgent (5 campaigns, +8 EP)>Benevolent AlterationsPure Pool -racialProdigy +2Eccentric +6Signature Technique (Ronin’s Dead Eye) -0>Malignant AlterationsAge Disjunction +5Hellfire Debt +4Genderswap +3Trouble Magnet +5Magmatic – Eccentric +0Rivals +9>Aura System Vast Specialist -10>Meridian Expansions8 aura -108 aura -10>Recovery DispositionsMeditationNutrition>Aura AffinitiesCore – g3 -3Phase- g3 -3Flow – g0 +1Alchemy g1 -0>TrainingWeaponry Legend (throwing daggers) -6Investigation Initiate -2>Release TechniquesSense Aura -0Body Enhancement -0Initiate Status – Oscillating Motion (phase g1) -potentialInitiate Status – Resolute Center (core g1) -potentialBinding Paper Sigil (alchemy g1) -5Ronin’s Dead Eye (any g3) -18>EquipmentProjectile Weapon – Throwing Daggers (Ancient) -10 EPAdaptive, Ultima Launcher, Silvered -3 APWeighted Straps -3 EP>FactionsAlly- Ninokata, JiahaoFoe- Hellion Mob, Feather Tribe>New SectInconspicuous – special advantagespecialistssecrets>CampaignsTechnique CollectionSeeker of the Strongest FighterArena DeathmatchesPerson of Interest: The Tenth Magistrate of HellGroup of Interest: The Bloody Fog>RivalsOnoChimakoKansuke
>>98762988He still thinks basic mooks have legend status and that legend tier skills are for low-level street thugs. Lmao.
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>>98762943heh, nah power can never get comfort, that is a nepo baby privilege. If the gutter rat gets too big for their britches they gets hunted down by the clans.
>>98762962You feckless simpleton, Ouroboros is the best timeloop cyoa we have.>>98762997It is prettier, at least.
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>>98763019>best timeloop cyoa we haveWhat is the competition? lmao
>>98763012That's a basic bitch start for a player build, naturally. You're so fucking dumb lmao.
>>98763011>>98762978
>>98762999Not really but I said I gave up in discussing with you all. Can you stop bringing it up?I am sure you will say you dont enjoy the discussion about it, so lets not
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>>98763027Wronganon can't let anything go, didn't you see him seething at softie?
>>98763023There are a couple of fun groundhog day cyoas, but they are very old and obscure. I'll try to find and post one when I'm on my lunchbreak later.
>>98763018>heh, nah power can never get comfort, that is a nepo baby privilege. If the gutter rat gets too big for their britches they gets hunted down by the clans.Read what the author said.You can have your own family, try to spread your super genes and eventually the clan will stop going for you, giving up.You can threaten them as well to be above. WOGAnon: Like comfort can functionaly achieve anything power does just by using money instead of going around murdering people themselves.WOG: Not anything. Comfort cannot buy a minor clan outright, as while he's filthy rich, the clans are themselves richer. With some effort, Power could seize control of the same clan through blackmailing or intimidating its clanhead, though they'll be trying to wiggle out from under his thumb.
>>98763027Why not really? It touches you to drain you, improving itself while disabling you with any touch. You can't hit it back, because it dodges automatically, it doesn't matter how fast you are.I wasn't bringing it up to make fun of you, I was bringing it up as an example of a very difficult but simple to outplay opponent.
>>98763025Space Slipping Spine was the technique that started this character idea, I'm looking at forms, series, conductions, stances, martial arts.
>>98762978Ranged weapons in general deserve more love in SC.
>>98763045>You can't hit it back, because it dodges automatically, it doesn't matter how fast you are.ahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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>>98763057Yes, that greentext is correct.
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>>98763062lol, lmao even
>>98763057?
>>98763045> It touches you to drain youSure...? Draining takes time and constant touching. The stronger the guy, the more it takes. So a purebody user would take a lot of time just touching.And that is assuming you can just touch him without any consecuence. Given how several martial arts and weapon arts are incredibly dangerous I think they are more threatning than draining stats slowly. Like getting your soul out of your body or fucking up your aura system and techniques.> You can't hit it back, because it dodges automatically, it doesn't matter how fast you are.Passive use of Phase legend status is not "can't hit", its the body acting on its own but it doesn't mean you can't get hit.And active use of it is weak to an aoe attack that forces the whole body into the mirror world. Needing to deactivate the technique and devote another 15 aura to reactivate it.This all has been talked before. Is pure body the strongest build? Of course not. Is it incredibly strong? It is. People underestimate it? A lot.Future sight plus time stop counter it. Its not like its invencible but thinking just 2 legend status with nothing more is enough when legend status are basically support abilities for the affinities is not the best idea.
>>98763072It's the original wronganon, but lazier because he knows it's hopeless.
>>98763072Wronganon is now saying WLE is total invulnerability. Its so funny cause he was mad at softie for saying something tangentially related to that.
>>98763080>>98763084????
>>98763079>Draining takes time and constant touching.From the CYOA: >In combat, a mere touch can cripple a foe, while extended contact can make them a frail invalid who might take months to recover from even a minor injury.>And that is assuming you can just touch him without any consecuence.The effect happens at the point of attack, not defense. The touch you are instigating is the one you drain with. The touch he is instigating is the one he does divergent lifestreams with or something. But waning lunar eon auto-dodges all the enemy's attacks. It ends up not mattering. Waning lunar eon wins again.>Passive use of Phase legend status is not "can't hit", its the body acting on its own but it doesn't mean you can't get hit.Yes, but hitting through waning lunar eon requires something that hits simultaneously in real world and mirror world. Obviously a pure body build won't have that. It's really fucking rare in fact. You'd need something like harmonic phantasm and mirror world inversion on the same build to do it cleanly.>And active use of it is weak to an aoe attack that forces the whole body into the mirror world.That's the only stalemate option the pure body user would have, yes. But it's a stalemate.>>98763090A few days ago he started being called wronganon so he started calling everyone else wronganon. It's chaosfag, the point is to sow confusion, not to talk about the CYOA.
>>98762978How much physical strength do you need to notice a difference in Space Slipping Spine's overall power?
>>98763019>best timeloop cyoa we haveIt's more of a civilization builder first and foremost.Hence why I like it even though I greatly despise timeloop stuff.
>>98763023Mother of Learning?
>>98763102>From the CYOA: >In combat, a mere touch can cripple a foe, while extended contact can make them a frail invalid who might take months to recover from even a minor injury.Are you dumb enough to think I can't read the same cyoa as you to notice you avoided copying the part I meant or what?I am not even going to bother to read the rest if you are so disingenous from the start. I knew restarting the argument was a dumb idea but at least I HOPED that I was just talking with a honest person with a different opinion.Seeing how dishonest you are why would I continue? I won't read the rest nor any comment from this discussion. I dont know why you thought it was a good idea to lie and copy just before the part I meant like you are the only one with the cyoa.
>>98763132that was the story people kept telling me to read even though i hate time travel in stories, "but anon, if it's built with time travel as the central premise, then it can be good!"it was shit
>>98763136Anon him claiming WLE was total invulnerability should have tipped you off wronganon was being retarded again. Don't go too hard or he'll cry to PCA again.
>>98763109Enough that it isn't really worth it.
>>98763136There is no dishonesty there.The yellow part is talking about the timespan of training with CSI for years, decades, or longer. If you have a retard strength technique, you're stronger than the CSI user on day 1. After a hundred years, you're not. The yellow part isn't talking about how quickly or slowly the draining happens during an individual fight.
>>98763141You're the only one claiming WLE is total invulnerability, wronganon.
>>98763148>The yellow part is talking about the timespan of training with CSI for yearsahahahahahahhhahahahahahah
>>98763154You sure have been seething a lot lately. Everything okay in your personal life, anon?
>>98762964Your godhand build was pretty good imo
>>98763154Don't laugh at me anon, I will shit my pants if you do.>>98763157Stop imitating me.
>>98762964I don't hate your build. I hate how disrespectful you are.
>>98763165If you're the softie seether you're a lot more disrespectful than he's been.
>>98763044Its a difference between soft and hard power. Power will never have the soft power that comfort has. Plus power still dies from high ordinance so if the clans really wanted to they could kill power by leveling a district. The eugenics plan has a risk of its own as if the clans get a hold of one of the kids they could reverse engineer the gene mods.
>>98763146That's what I thought too. Any somewhat hard capped legendary technique has a rough time competing with Consummate Self-Incarnation
>>98763173Different forms and severities of disrespect for the context. If he commits a worse offense, I'm not going to bother holding to standards multiple steps higher than him, especially when those standards generally don't even apply on 4chan the way they normally do in the first place. If he wants to talk about a CYOA, then basic respect demands that he takes it seriously. Acting the way normies think is rude against him in reprisal, meanwhile, is not as big of a deal here. Welcome to 4chan, by the way.
>>98763192He really hasn't done anything, you're just a crybaby looking for an excuse to be bitter. Welcome to 4chan.
>Thinking the actual strong people are not going to kill your character before they get too strongEvery single anon LOST Spirit Conscript btw
>>98763196Wew, that didn't sound crybaby coded at all, lmao
>>98763196Wronganond whole MO for the last few days.
>>98763196That's wronganon in a nutshell.
>>98762888I have already moved on, you can stop posting it now.
>>98763177>Plus power still dies from high ordinance so if the clans really wanted to they could kill power by leveling a district.They can't."Leveling a district" is sending troops. Power wins or escapes easily.And as I put earlier, WOG, Power can literally seize control of a clan richer than Comfort.>The eugenics plan has a risk of its own as if the clans get a hold of one of the kids they could reverse engineer the gene mods.It's lost tech. This world doesn't have the tech to reverse engineer.If they could, they would have done already. Mutants already have gene mods. Why didn't the house of Comfort reverse engineer the positive ones and create an elite? They can't.This is what WOG said about making a family. Clan would try to kill you at first. Kill. They don't even try to kidnap to reverse engineer or something. And then give up once they realize you win.WOG: The clans will certainly try, but are likely to stop after the first few thousand dead. Elite soldiers are expensive, after all, and if you're just starting a family on your own, they may deem it not worth the effort to root you out. Without either rampant reproduction or careful eugenic planning, your gene-augs are likely to winnow themselves out into the wider population after ten generations or so.
>>98763200meant for >>98763192
>>98763218I'd bother screencapping this one too, but you waited too long. You need to be faster if you want that.
>>98763198That's why I win by being a jobber, actually
>>98763205>>98763206At first I thought he was doing it on purpose but with how mad he gets if you have a different opinion I'm convinced he's just genuinely that retarded.
>>98763109? Depends on what you try to kill. Given it speeds itself, its not that important against 99% of foes. A hyper quick dagger in your throat is going to kill you>>98763050They are the strongest option really, but anons want to be martial.
>>98763227You don't have different opinions, wronganon. That's your entire MO. You're just a contrarian without an opinion.
>>98763198I breed Futaba, Vuseba and the twins. I am a sugar baby
>>98763198why would they go after you completely randomly? is this a fear you usually have? do you stink so bad people just randomly attack you irl or something?
>>98763231I care about the 1%, considering the author says some enemies are unbeatable by any starting build.
>>98763253>the author needed to tie my shoes for mehave you considered using basic common sense
>>98763253PCA is a bit out of touch with spirit conscript builds for saying that to be honest.
>Be me>Be bored anon>Let's do a little trolling for one thread!>People start calling you wronganon>Cool, they realized it>Post genuine opinions>Get called wronganon>Okay...>Get silent>See people getting called wronganon>Be into discussion, get proven right>Still get called wronganon together with other anons>Get silent again>More people keep being called wronganon>Avoid all discussion because it devolved into calling people wronganon>Still see people get called wronganonYou all retards overestimate how good you are at identifying anons and it has become absurd. Can we go back to just calling each other a retard instead of naming the new booegyman whose name already lost meaning? This is like that time we just called each other Tok 24/7.
>>98763259Absolutely. If you have 60 aura there's no way you're weaker than anything in the setting. In fact, even calling you a starting build is laughable, you aren't a starting build if you have 60 aura. You're probably a million year old gigachad who just decided to larp as a child for no reason. PCA is completely out of touch with the reality of 60 aura builds. In fact, 60 aura builds are so good that one of these days one will probably appear in real life and kill him for saying such audacious nonsense.
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>>98763265The amount of seethe and tears you put out daily could boil an ocean.
>>98763262I don't think it's so much being bad at noticing it as just abusing anonymity to try to throw it around like a hot potato.Well, I'm sure a few people didn't notice, but I bet most did.
>>98763253>I care about the 1%Then have some technique to enhance the dagger. Like magestic weapon injection or a lower form of it.It's a hyperspeed dagger in a weakpoint. The amount of strength you need to be lethal is way less than the durability your opponent needs to ignore it. Back of the head, scrotch, eyes, nose, mouth, ears. Some places are going to be supremely weak despite how much muscle you buildHave a super small dart or nail, launch it, target the eardrums. Reach the brain. GG.Your opponent needs reflexes to evade this, not durability
>>98763262post your shitty opinions with a catpic to stand out as unique individual
>>98763270Yes, clearly I'm the seething one, this is proven by the fact you people reply to me every time, often in clusters of posts exactly 61 to 70 seconds apart.
>>98763283>61What?This... can't be.Its there something bigger than 60? I thought that was the limit, just like the limit of power was 60 aura.THERE IS NOTHING BIGGER
>>98763259>the author is out of touch with my headcanonoh no! anyway
>>98763289>headcanonMy harem build is quite canon I assure you.
>>98763216>They can't.>"Leveling a district" is sending troops. Power wins or escapes easily.huh, you don't need to send troops, by leveling a district I mean orbital bombardment, the great clans have ships. >And as I put earlier, WOG, Power can literally seize control of a clan richer than Comfort.you don't need to send trop.I don't mean comfort, comfort is just a nepo baby who gets the great clans pocket change. If you fuck around with the status quo too much the great clans will come packing.>It's lost tech. This world doesn't have the tech to reverse engineer.the clans have their own gene mods>If they could, they would have done already. Mutants already have gene mods. Why didn't the house of Comfort reverse engineer the positive ones and create an elite? They can't.most mutants don't have good gene mods the ones with the good ones probably get hunted down.WOG: The clans' ancestors were either smart, rich, or both, and in a position to hoard technology to themselves when things broke down. The mutant's ancestors were poor and suffered genetic pollution from various, low-quality gene-augs breaking down and spreading through the population. Power is essentially a one in fifty billion freak who won the powerball lottery by both having the latent gene-augs in a functional, high-quality form and the subtle genetic triggers to actually activate them.It's rare, but there are some mutants who have one or two gene-augs of various quality. That means very little to a power armoured aristo. The clans also have gene-augs but prioritized health and stability over pure combat, as, again, it's largely redundant if they can buy troops.>This is what WOG said about making a family. Clan would try to kill you at first. Kill. They don't even try to kidnap to reverse engineer or something. And then give up once they realize you win.it doesn't say kill, why do you think they are sending in troops and not war machinery? They want to capture them for genemods
>>98763259You are a bit out of touch with how strong the trigram is. Not the author.Look, Tok is dumb but if he said you can defeat Ordin with X choices or you can't, he is the author of dragonfall and knows better.
>>98763262Shut up Tok
>>98763292but it's not out of touch with other men :^)
>>98763296>the author knows betterDeath of the author!>TokDeath to the author!
Why is there someone always asking for danmachi
>>98763312Ignore it. It’s just a malformed bird squawking.
>>98763272my Inner Demon Chrysalis (core g1+) perfect meat sphere of exponential density twitch muscle has no weak spot
>>98763186I mean in the sense that SSS already hits ridiculously hard and can scale basically indefinitely, so there's isn't really a point investing in physical strength. If you really want to break it, combine with Ultima Launcher.
>>98763293>huh, you don't need to send troops, by leveling a district I mean orbital bombardmentthey are quite literally trapped i nthe planet.The "ships" are literal ships.And let's assume for the sake of the argument they have space ships despite the cyoa being about everyone being trapped. Source of "orbital bombardment"?>I don't mean comfort, comfort is just a nepo baby who gets the great clans pocket change. If you fuck around with the status quo too much the great clans will come packing.I am quite literally comparing Comfort and Power as the cyoa is meant to be played. Anyway, Power can defeat the clan of this planet anyway. Another thing is it not being worth.>the clans have their own gene modsYeah, so?They have access to some gene mods. So? Having access to some beauty and health gene mods doesnt make you able to reverse engineer other gene mods.>most mutants don't have good gene mods the ones with the good ones probably get hunted down.I know. Which goes against your argument, this is my point. Why hunt down mutants with good genes if you could capture them and reverse engineer it? They dont do it. They can't, lost tech.>WOG I know, doesnt change anything I said.>t's rare, but there are some mutants who have one or two gene-augs of various qualityI know.>That means very little to a power armoured aristo.Why? Reverse engineer it and spread it within your troops. And keep upgrading them as generations keep passing.Seems easy and good if they had the tech to reverse engineer it rather than it being lost tech.>The clans also have gene-augs but prioritized health and stability over pure combat, as, again, it's largely redundant if they can buy troops.The clans have some battle gene augs, yes, my point is they can't just reverse engineer anything they want. They have some X and Y gene augs and thats what they use depending on the type of person, because they dont have the tech for the rest of them, nor know how to reverse engineer it.
>>98763296not really. he couldn't have forseen every strategy no matter how much he'd like to say otherwise
>>98763312ritual shitpost>>98763327lmao
>>98763345also he could just underestimate or overestimate something.
>>98763321Is it the same bird that makes the OCOCOCOCO sound sometimes?
>>98763293>>98763339Have to say they do have orbital bombardment.Have to also say its like they don't have it because even in the case of GLOBAL CONQUEST they won't use it.Its literally a nothing burguer then.>it doesn't say kill, why do you think they are sending in troops and not war machinery? They want to capture them for genemodsWar machinery is precisely what the author meant with elite soldiers.Elite soldiers in this world meant trained soldiers with the aug genes available to the clan AND enhanced by the machinery you outclass.This is what he saidWOG: I've updated the CYOA to remove ambiguities from Power. My line of thinking was that you are as effective as a platoon of elite, power armoured crack troops but that wasn't clear from the writing, and some anons thought I was referring to regular troops, against which you are equivalent to a large regiment. This is assuming an open field battle without any external support, advantageous use of terrain, stealth, tactics, etc. A clever mutant could punch above his weight.Answering the last part of your post.>it doesn't say kill, why do you think they are sending in troops and not war machinery? They want to capture them for genemodsGiven they consider it not worth to "root you out" if you just chill, it means it was merely because of your genes being illegal and the threat of it. Not a want of reverse engineering it.Again, the reverse engineer part is literally all headcanon of yours never mentioned in any capacity within our outside the cyoa.
>>98763345Given he knows how strong the trigram is, he has a lot more of information than you.You are the one working against unforseen strategies.
>>98763384Nta but>given he can just make up power levels as he goes, he has more information than youYou're giving authors too much credit.
>>98762888Correct me if I'm missing something, is there any way for a not overpowered build to get 6 positive alterations?
>>98762888How do you compete with a heavenly instrument weapon user as a martial artist? There's no alteration like heavenly instrument that gives you unsurpassed skill but for martial arts.
>>98763392think about what the trigrams represent, they were obviously supposed to be extremely powerful from the start, by even the most basic common sense standards, absolutely no changes in power level needed to happen here
>>98763393no.
>>98763396Ummm... you always have unsurpassed skill for moving your own fists though? Nobody can move your fists better than you can. What a bizarre question. Meanwhile, weapons aren't pure like fists, they are sluts, anyone else could in theory be better at using them than you. Heavenly instrument is lucky it has that property to make up for the usual deficiency of a weapon. It makes sure that your sword is faithful and chaste for you.
>>98763339>they are quite literally trapped i nthe planet.>The "ships" are literal ships.>And let's assume for the sake of the argument they have space ships despite the cyoa being about everyone being trapped. Source of "orbital bombardment"?they have spaceships, look at the wog they are mining asteroids and doing experiments in space they just don't have FTLWOG: Pursuing scientific advancements is held as laudable by the clans, and your responsibility in confining your bio-experiments to space and multi-tasking asteroid intake are praiseworthy. All human gene-augs are legal amongst born clan members. They're simply wary of them being released into the general population.Orbital bomardment is easy when you have spaceships you literally just throw stuff down from space and its orbital bombardment.>I am quite literally comparing Comfort and Power as the cyoa is meant to be played. Anyway, Power can defeat the clan of this planet anyway. Another thing is it not being worth.yes specifically a minor clan, not one of the great clans.>I know. Which goes against your argument, this is my point. Why hunt down mutants with good genes if you could capture them and reverse engineer it? They dont do it. They can't, lost tech.if you can modify genes, whats preventing you from reverse engineering a genome? Like at worse case they can literally just make clones.>WOGthe rest stuff aren't my arguments its literally copy pasted from the WOG. This is Wog "It's rare, but there are some mutants who have one or two gene-augs of various quality. That means very little to a power armoured aristo. The clans also have gene-augs but prioritized health and stability over pure combat, as, again, it's largely redundant if they can buy troops."
>>98763404>no.Wronganon...
>>98763393Nope. Unless technically you are super charismatic or a ladies man.Artifact armory is technically obtainable as well.But knowing what you were talking about, 5 max.
>>98763412>>98763410
>>98763410I'm not that guy, am I missing something?
>>98763396Hevanely instrument, gauntlet.Heavenly instrument, glove.Or just heavenly instrument a weapon and as the weapon is treated as part of your body, train martial arts using that weapon.
>Saar my aura is very high sar I rape you now you are very wrong it is rape time you love to be rapedIs Softie a jeet?
>>98763418the only way i can think of for it to even theoretically be true is if you get someone to vessel transfer more of them onto yourself, but that probably comes with serious problems to overcome, for the same reasons kofuko didn't offer more than 5+1 in the first place
>>98763404>>98763412Thank you, I was trying to combine two gimmicks in one build, but seems I won't manage it.
>>98763423This is a jeet and jap CYOA. A jeep CYOA if you will. Just call him a jeep.
>>98763406>yes specifically a minor clan, not one of the great clans.No, the big clan as well. One of the WOG was about Power conquering the planet, but it not being worth it.>if you can modify genes, whats preventing you from reverse engineering a genome? lost tech you dont have.>Like at worse case they can literally just make clones.headcanonThis whole setting is about lost tech fucking up everything and the clans having partial knowledge of what they had.>This is WogI know, but it literally changes nothing. I knew mutants sometimes were born with them. I didn't say they werent. It doesnt contradict anything I said.Its why literally it doesnt matter.Its like if I tell you Power has a street gang, like yes, you know it, I know it, it doesn't change anything we are discussing.
Cultivating 50 max aura over at gorrillion years is cope. Meridian expansion costs 10 points and it doesn't have any limits. Just find the way to do meridian expansions instead of sucking your own dick in a lotus pose. Instead of getting 100 points of techniques when the aura burst happens, you could get another 80 max aura. And as we all know, max aura is a lot more powerful than any silly techniques.
>>98763423It would seem so
>>98763379>Have to say they do have orbital bombardment.Have to also say its like they don't have it because even in the case of GLOBAL CONQUEST they won't use it.what? where does it say that they won't use it even in the case of global conquest?>War machinery is precisely what the author meant with elite soldiers.no I mean actual heavy machinery, not people in power armor, tanks, war planes and stuff like that. The things that have heavy ordinance that can kill the power mutant.>Again, the reverse engineer part is literally all headcanon of yours never mentioned in any capacity within our outside the cyoa.seems plausible within what was given, if you can do genemods alraedy what is so hard about reverse engineering a genome? Doing genemod research is canon.
>>98763439>No, the big clan as well. One of the WOG was about Power conquering the planet, but it not being worth it.what? where is this wog from?>lost tech you dont have.gene mods are not a lost tech, specific genmods yes but genemods in general no.>headcanonwhats so hard about making a clone if you have the genes and the ability to make genemods? Even with partial tech eventually you will get results if you throw enough money at it. Like the biggest problem is that they are doing it from scratch but if you have the whole genome why would it be hard to reverse engineer it?
>>98763433Jeet Conscript
>>98763455WOG: Your plan to gather a mutant horde and conquer an arcology is a nightmare scenario for the clans, and will result in a prolonged siege at best.While the technology that went into their construction is too valuable to waste with orbital bombardment, a brazen mutant uprising is impossible for even the most peaceful clans to countenance. If your conquest is successful, you can expect to deal with constant, repeated assaults by everything the aristos can afford to deploy, and they have very, very deep pockets. You yourself and your direct progeny (should you find a compatible mate or else get lucky, passing down functional gene-augs isn't guaranteed) are strong, but the majority of mutants under you are not. Survival will be a multi-generational ordeal with no end in sight. The clans are as vicious in their grudges as they are generous toward their scions.Eh, it was an arcology, still they won't use it. The thing is, they have it, won't use it. Its a moot point. If they won't use it with someone conquering their terrain because its too valuable, the more you conquer, the more reason to not use it.>no I mean actual heavy machinery, not people in power armor, tanks, war planes and stuff like that.The peak of the planet is you, and then the clan elite troops. I dont know from where you got there are secretly heavy machinery that defeats you, you are the dealiest being in the planet and their method of trying to get rid of you is expensive elite troops, then give up. There is no secret heavy machinery.Hell, Power putting a power armor on will make him weaker. Thats the type of strength above machinery we are talking about.>seems plausible within what was givenheadcanon nonetheless and given how weak elitle soldiers are compared to you, if they could have done that centuries or thousands of years ago, they are simple too retarded and didn't.> you can do genemods alraedy what is so hard about reverse engineering a genome? the partial tech.
>>98763500>Eh, it was an arcology, still they won't use it. The thing is, they have it, won't use it. Its a moot point. If they won't use it with someone conquering their terrain because its too valuable, the more you conquer, the more reason to not use it.well why would you nuke your own city? Like if you were an existential threat they would have nuked you, but in this case power is just a warlord who took over a city, nuking a city is a waste of resources, they most likely think they will get it back eventually.>The peak of the planet is you, and then the clan elite troops. I dont know from where you got there are secretly heavy machinery that defeats you, you are the dealiest being in the planet and their method of trying to get rid of you is expensive elite troops, then give up. There is no secret heavy machinery.By heavy machinery I just mean machines that have heavy ordinance. WOG: There are hard, physical limits and heavy ordinance will delete Power if hit center mass>headcanon nonetheless and given how weak elitle soldiers are compared to you, if they could have done that centuries or thousands of years ago, they are simple too retarded and didn't.well its because there is no framework to work from, regular mutants are weak and developing gene mods from scratch is going to be hard. But if you have a creature with all the genemods on it whats so hard to copy from it?
>>98763455>>98763500> you can do genemods alraedy what is so hard about reverse engineering a genome?As I was saying, partial tech.If they had that tech through normal natural beings, being blocks of knowledge being slowly building up one over another. It would make sense. Just like you have to know how to do sum before being able to multiply.The problem is the tech they have is partial. Its not that they develoepd genemods and skipped everything else. Its that they did everything and somehow lost knowledge of very important things. Including FTL travel as they are isolated. They have an incomplete book. Which is why they have some gene mods, but not all of them, which is why the mutant people also have some gene mods they obviously dont have despite it having to come from them in the first place.>>98763472As I said in another post, arcology, my bad. My point still stands. The rest of this post is about again lost tech.Let's end the discussion, do you agree? I think we reached an impasse.My point is, Power has more power than Comfort has power, soft power as well. To the point Power can threaten minor clans into obeying him, despite Comfort not being able to use his soft power to buy that same minor clan that is technically richer than Comfort.So Power > Minor clanMinor's clan networth > Comfort'sPower can be left alone once they realize its useless to go after him. So he can have comfort as wellThis is confirmed and my main point. In the rest that we disagree I don't think we will convince each other.
>>98763384oh I was talking about Tok. wasn't part of the thread
>>98763526yeah sure we disagree about the tech okay, hard to say without the author confirming whats the real case.>So Power > Minor clan>Minor's clan networth > Comfort's>Power can be left alone once they realize its useless to go after him. So he can have comfort as wellI agree that Power has more power than comfort. Well unless comfort somehow becomes the clan head, but that is unlikely. But your statement is flawed, power will never have Comfort, because they will never have comfort. They will need to constantly fight and claw to survive and maintain their position.Also I don't think that they can full on upend the status quo, like they can carve out a niche but don't think they can upend the order if the clans get real desperate and stop caring about collateral damage.
>>98763565> Well unless comfort somehow becomes the clan head, but that is unlikely.Yeah, if he did that it would turn the table again, but its too risky to be worth. If I was in Comfort's place, I wouldn't try it. There is not much to gain except big dick points.>They will need to constantly fight and claw to survive and maintain their position.not really. Sure if they antagonize the big clan. But you could threaten a minor one, have it under your thumb. Kill the people coming after you like in the family WOG, they eventually give up like in the family WOG. Develop a family that could also help you more than weak normal mutants.Its not like you live for 70 years. If you are not killed you live for more than 2k years easily, you have a lot of time to make clans give up going for you and have comfort.>Also I don't think that they can full on upend the status quo, like they can carve out a niche but don't think they can upend the order if the clans get real desperate and stop caring about collateral damage.Eh, with breeding maxxing I think it could be done, but agree to disagree. Maybe I am also overestimating how strong your spawn could be.
>>98763250 The moment you stop being a random and become a potential threat, that is when you die, retard.
>>98763592assuming you act retarded, make everyone hate you, know where you live, and have nobody supporting you, then yeah, i guessdo you normally assume you won't be able to help acting retarded though?
>vast majority of the population, including aura users, are women>the two most powerful beings that exist, Yama and Yudi, are menBig think
Hey discortroons make yourself useful and ask PCA if Psychoslop is coming out anytime soon.
>>98763583>not really. Sure if they antagonize the big clan. But you could threaten a minor one, have it under your thumb. Kill the people coming after you like in the family WOG, they eventually give up like in the family WOG. Develop a family that could also help you more than weak normal mutants.Its not like you live for 70 years. If you are not killed you live for more than 2k years easily, you have a lot of time to make clans give up going for you and have comfort.I guess if you don't shake things up too much you can live in relative comfort, still think less then Comfort has but compared to the average person its probably really comfortable.>Eh, with breeding maxxing I think it could be done, but agree to disagree. Maybe I am also overestimating how strong your spawn could be.ehh... breeding maxing is flawed, simply due to the spawn not being inherently loyal, like if they are as powerful as you why do they have to listen to you? Some might even try to coup you. Like you kinda eliminate your own relative invincibility as you are no longer leagues ahead of everyone else on the planet.
>>98763612Do spirits have a gender in the way a human would see it?
>>98763612Spirits, probably dont have peepees
>>98763628Yes. They have tits that you can see.
>>98763612They're just crossdressing
>anon is threatened any peepee other than his existsmandatory genderswap slipped in by kofuko, he laughs at you afterwards
Sex with Universal Shemales.
this also explains why there's so many women in youduniwamaru was obviously definitely a guy back on earth, it couldn't be more obvious
>>98763619WE CAN'T! We are only useful for shitting up the thread by defending each other!
>>98763592hate when cyoas do that. "erm, you can't actually do anything meaningful in the setting because I worked really really hard on it, so the moment you do anything notable you get killed by the top dogs. have fun being a random"
>>98763670Which CYOA does that? Is that an italics thing?
>>98763627> simply due to the spawn not being inherently loyal like if they are as powerful as you why do they have to listen to you? Its not guaranteed but it follows the same rules as society.Your father teaches you from little to obey him, you tend to do that. Then you add emotional bond if you are a good father, it adds more. Then you add you being the strongest person in the planet. Then you add your race being discriminated and killed by what could be considered the other side (clans).So it would be weird for any children to betray you, its a lot of things that push them to follow you>Some might even try to coup you. Like you kinda eliminate your own relative invincibility as you are no longer leagues ahead of everyone else on the planet.And now I think you overestimate the spawn more than me... I had Power's spawn, bug people lets call them, as stronger than mutans that are weaker than normal humans on average, stronger than normal humans and stronger than mutants with a good gene aug. But not to the point of doing the powerhouse achivements of PowerBasically if they were a species, in that planet they would have a high average power compared to any other species, maybe a little higher than an elite clan soldier with gene augs without any weapon or equiptment.But nowhere near Bug FatherYou would need truly good breeding and plan for it a lot, to try to reach even half the strength of bug father, let alone the restSo, strong soldiers, but not reaching your levels. The thing holding back Power is after all mutants being weaklings with health problems. Maybe you could do some breeding engineering to make health gene augs more common between the common mutant. As I imagine it would help a lot if they had the resilence to getting ill and need of nutrients as you do, but not try to make more people like you>>98763628Gender as in identify with man or woman? some sure, Vuseba is obviously a femenine spirit that gave birthDick and pussy? Only if body
>>98763673Ultimate God?
>>98763686Damn, that really sucks. I didn't know ultimate god was that bad.
>>98763694It's good, I just feel it's the closest thing to that with the whole Pact thing.
>>98763668Trvtnuke
trut nut
>>98763694Ultimate God's cosmology is a bit like an aggressive HOA, if multiverses are houses in a suburb. You can do whatever you want to within a multiverse, whether it's your own or an abandoned one, except breed termites, invite homeless crackheads from outside, or try to manufacture a nuke, but destroying a house that isn't yours will cause your dozens of neighbors to come stomp your head in. There are around eighty other Ultimas at any time and all of them, including every other big faction, are in a loose alliance to uphold the current status quo.
>>98763682>Its not guaranteed but it follows the same rules as society.Your father teaches you from little to obey him, you tend to do that. Then you add emotional bond if you are a good father, it adds more. Then you add you being the strongest person in the planet. Then you add your race being discriminated and killed by what could be considered the other side (clans).So it would be weird for any children to betray you, its a lot of things that push them to follow youWell it works while you are under pressure, then they will unite for protection. But indoctriantion isn't really a good long time strategy especially if they are long lived. Some might just try to flee to avoid all the heat if your trying to do some crazy stuff. >And now I think you overestimate the spawn more than me... I had Power's spawn, bug people lets call them, as stronger than mutans that are weaker than normal humans on average, stronger than normal humans and stronger than mutants with a good gene aug. But not to the point of doing the powerhouse achivements of Power>Basically if they were a species, in that planet they would have a high average power compared to any other species, maybe a little higher than an elite clan soldier with gene augs without any weapon or equiptment.>But nowhere near Bug Father.huh... weaker than expected, not sure if you could do a lot of conquering with such an army. Especially if the gene mods keep degrading after each generation. But I guess its a decent enough army, but even with prolific breeding they will be low in number. Like kinda seems like even in this situation the bugfather would be the majority of the military strength. But I do wonder what happens if the power stays relatively low on the threat radar, could they simply marry into the clans, if they get some lucky spawn that doesn't look like a ugly bugfuck.
>>98763732>Ultimate God's cosmology is a bit like an aggressive HOA, if multiverses are houses in a suburb.WHAT THE FUCKI will never look at Ultimate God the same way again...
>>98762888I feel like I'll always end up making a Potential Man build with this CYOA unless I choose Overpowered. The coolest Legend techniques are far too costly to get at the start, especially with Initiate and Great Statuses being essentially must-have passives.
>>98763732>>98763694>>98763686Ultimate god is supremely boring, because arobitch just had to make the stupid pact. Which basically means that no one can actually fight anyone else for real, or else, everyone comes and destroys them. Mega boring design choice.
>>98763732>>98763742Skai is....Ultimate Karen
>>98763775damn, its just like real life. Boring rules preventing everyone from blowing everything up.
>>98763734>Some might just try to flee to avoid all the heat if your trying to do some crazy stuff.Which is not what I would try to do. I would as I say just put a minor clan under my thumb, get comfort and maintain with my family.>huh... weaker than expected, not sure if you could do a lot of conquering with such an army.not really into a lot of conquering.But anyway, it would be a big step up compared to mutants. Mutants are below average humans level. You and me can defeat mutants, thats how bad they are due to health.Going from that to stronger than low level augmented humans is a big change>Especially if the gene mods keep degrading after each generationsmart planning and keep inserting the seed.>Like kinda seems like even in this situation the bugfather would be the majority of the military strength.it was going to be always the case>But I do wonder what happens if the power stays relatively low on the threat radar, could they simply marry into the clans, if they get some lucky spawn that doesn't look like a ugly bugfuck.Depends on how controlled minor clans are by the main one. If they can leave a 14th son-daughter of a minor clan marry whoever they want, then it should be possible that a human looking spawn could just pass as a normal mutant.Bug Father would threaten the minor clan patriarch to accept it. So it depends if they decision is from the minor clan leader or from higher up. The human looking spawn was a minor breeding plan anyway. Merely for pleasure. Get some dna from minor nobles through threats and stealing, sperm banks sperm from recently dead ones, and bastards, and through that keep doing it until you get the beautiful nobles they like to show off. Its part of the plan to get comfort.It would be viable but I don't know how much it would help if at all to the Bug Father.
YOU WILL BE PACIFIST YOU WILL GET OLD AND KILL YOURSELFYOU WILL SPEND ALL YOUR TIME MANAGING A MULTIVERSEAND YOU WILL BE HAPPY!
>>98763774only if you're making a corephase monkey
>>98763783Saddest defense for a cyoa goes to
>>98763788YOU WILL DO ALL THISAND REINCARNATE AGAIN TO REPEAT ENDLESSLY
>>98763777>digitsLmao
>>98763785>It would be viable but I don't know how much it would help if at all to the Bug Father.Personally I think its a method to gain legitimacy, if you are able to marry into the clans without the need of threats they might be less likely to work against you. Do it enough times and get enough clout without rocking the boat too much and you might get a honorary noble title and get recognized as a part of the status quo.
>>98763788The perfect ultima, according to aro.
>>98763790No matter what you're specializing in, I genuinely think you won't survive long in the City Between without Core Initiate Status and some martial arts training, at the very least.
>>98763812unless you have mind splitting of course.
>>98763812The Companions seem to manage
>>98763817Fair enough. Wasn't there an Anon back then that made a mind splitting build that involved blowing themselves up or something?
>>98763810Not a bad strategy. I guess the noble breeding program is more than just pleasure. That and making a syndicate of crime that doesn't make living impossible for nobles but could even help the minor clan you aim to marry one of your noble looking bug people into. Not bad at all
>>98763812It's a good idea, but it's not necessary. Keep in mind that aura users of your caliber are less than one in a thousand. Most of the time you can just get away with shit even at the mortal level. It only becomes a retarded plan if you try to fight powerful opponents directly without anything to back it up. That can be bodily physicality with core and phase, but with alchemy and flow you can just never expose yourself to the sorts of reprisal your opponents bring. Someone summoning spirits or using massive telekinesis from the other side of youdu and you can't even track where they are is just fine against your martial artist powers. And that's only confrontation, what if the legendary alchemy build is about working as a street vendor and doing glorifies boob jobs with transfiguration while hiding they're also a universal sovereign? I genuinely believe you don't need a domineering physicality.
>>98763823nta but did pca ever elaborate what favorite techniques mean? i assume the companions have other lesser techniques and just prefer/are better at using the ones mentioned
>>98763840>author! author! did you ever tell us what the words you're using mean?invest in a dictionary
>>98763840We know from Aki that they can have other techniques, and from Ono that this isn't a guarantee.
>>98763845Modern dictionaries are nothing but political activism
>>9876384080IQanon...
>>98763848i'm about to activate your modern sphincter
What are the best characters to take as rivals? I'm taking Ono and Faye since they're just nuisances at best. But I need a third one, Jawbones seems pretty weak, if anything, you can just run.
>>98763812The entire clans of majushin and senguru beg to differ. The majushin sorcerers are even reputed to rebuff invasions the from the hair clan into their turtle dwellings on top of being top human clan right now.
>>98763867the ones that interact with your own story best, so that they do more than just act as a sack two pointsif you're a stalker, then get rokubi or kansuke or the like, so that there's actually a meaningful rivalry going on, you interrupt each other on jobs, you try to outsneak each other, etc.you're gonna win anyway because you have like ten times more power in the context you specialize in, but at least this way there's something going on
>>98762916Yes, with my dick, the strongest weapon in many cyoas that's always slept on.
>>98763878>his dick is always ignoredDamn, bro... That sucks.
>>98763867Hakuma. Just don't get touched.
>>98763882Not ignored, slept on, specifically by your waifu.
>>98763895>his dick is so boring it puts people to sleepf
>>98763894anon would never touch a woman, as seen here >>98763878, so this is a master plan
>>98763871Yea, sorcerers are some of the most dangerous and influential people in the setting, so much so the other clans apparently can't reign in the majushin.
>>98763900>his dick can't fuck waifusbinto unconsciousnessSkull issue
>>98763908>waifusbinto
>>98763918waifus binted
>>98763878>>98763895>>98763908Indian Sovereign...
>>98763922What
>>98763904The majushin are only nominally in the lead because they have two dead guys who might come back in a thousand years as spirits, strategically the dynasties are about equal.
>>98763927
>>98763924Spirit Conscript is an extremely Indian CYOA thoufhever
>he catches all the waifu pokemon with his 60 aura but they still end up sleeping on his dickYou can't make this shit up
>>98763928>he majushin are only nominally in the lead because they have two dead guys who might come back in a thousand years as spirits, strategically the dynasties are about equalNo, they are not. Read the Majushin sect description and then come back, it in no uncertain terms says they're the most powerful and influential sect in the city right now. The ancestors are also going to be back much earlier than 1000 years since an entire clan worships them and are actively searching for suitable vessels to make it even quicker.
>>98763952That's just social and political reputation, which is useful, but not actual power. It's actually really appropriate for the alchemists to be in that position in fact.>much earlier than 1000 years 1000 years is with worship, without it it would be millions.
>>98762888The equipment section has some real nonsense picks in it. 2 EP for a lockpick set? Regular lockpicks? Half the jobs could get money to just buy a set easily, and a handful companions are rich as fuck and/or have high status.
>>98763972A lot of builds could just get an entire armory of firearms in 20 seconds too. I assume the lockpicks are considered mortal world contraband and that's why they're so expensive.
>>98763965>That's just social and political reputationWronganon, read the description. They are explicitly the most powerful faction to the point they are actively opposed by all the other human dynasties and others such as the trigram and hair tribe and still maintain top position.>1000 years is with worship, without it it would be millions.Retard. I shouldn't even bother discussing with wronganon.
>>98763965wronganon...
>>98763980>>98763984None of that is inconsistent with the following parts of the description which point out their power is strategic soft power and not direct power. You have to read the entire description, not just the parts you like best.
Yea, it's just wronganon baiting since he can't read what's explicitly written right in front of him. Just ignore him.
>>98763989It's no longer funny and just kind of sad he's still doing this.
>>98763989>>98763993>can't read a single paragraph, would prefer to play out a skit insteadI accept your concession.
>>98763989It's funny, anons when SC first came out couldn't stop sucking off the majushin because they're the strongest and by extension alchemy is.
>>98763998I mean, things like the origami and thread powers theoretically have no limit as long to how strong they can become as you can keep pumping aura into them, and they can do all kinds of crazy things with transmutation.
>>98763998Tbf someone like futaba who can use that stone soldier power are apparently strong enough people can't contest them. I actually wonder how strong those soldiers actually are, they have to be above normal humans somehow.
>>98763998those were ironically the same ones who were convinced universal sovereign is awful
>>98764011Universal sovereigns not awful its just got drawbacks for turning into a spirit. Very good but only if you can not mind them.
>>98764011>>98764014holy fuck it was instantly confirmed
>>98764014Whoa slow down there anon wronganon is gonna have a meltie since he argues it has no downsides.
>as if on cue
>>98764014Is there even any way to get an immortal soul other than Perenial Lotus and Universal Soverign?
>>98764023idk I never read the cyoa
>>98764007I assume they might be equivalent to an aura user who only has g2 or g3 in core, which is superhuman, but not strongly superhuman like an aura user who also a technique like resolute center to multiply their superhumanity.Just terracotta warriors alone would make you dominant if you aren't opposed by any higher level aura users. Futaba has the political clout to discourage that, so she probably bullies lower level aura users and mortals a lot. A high level combat aura user wouldn't be a good matchup for her.
>>98764023Not in the cyoa, that's the whole point of the system in general though, you're supposed to develop immortality methods on your own. Universal sovereign is not the only way alchemy can become immortal, let alone the rest of the paths.
>>98764017We've already settled that it doesn't many times, there's no reason to start it again unless (You) put more effort into restarting it.>>98764023Forbidden false buddha gets you there with a similar but worse caveat than perennial lotus. Only universal sovereign is true soul immortality.
>>98764029That said Alchemy is the 'gain an immortal soul' path so I'm not sure how effective the others would realistically be in this regard.
>>98764023You're supposed to try to develop immortality post gen.
>>98764029Yes, but it's kinda hard to believe you'll be able to do it since no one did it without Soverign, and even then only like 2 people sid it. The lore doc hints some clan head is attaining immortality via dissolution with Phase or Flow, but that's it AFAIK.
>>98764044all four are "close" to succeeding
>>98764044Core is already pretty close, look at illumination of the heart and the current legend status.
>>98764047It's a lot likelier to succeed than the 60 aura summoners and pure body users. If they can dream with such massive disadvantages, then you can dream of something a lot more likely.
Why the fuck does having a random jobber be your rival gives you 2 AP while getting an entire organization (which can include said random jobber) explicitly trying to kill you gives only one?
>>98764069Wronganon still being jealous of softie and purebodyfag is honestly hilarious.
>>98764072It's the same reason as having a companion going into fights with you costing more than having a membership. A rival is a relatively strong aura user focused on you. An organization is mostly chumps and none of their strong aura users are focused on you.
>>98764078He was a cowardly flowjobber who refused to take any enemies or conflict, what can you expect?
>>98764072Said jobbers are fiat bound to be really annoying to deal with
>>98764080You're limited to a being a member of a single faction though. Unless I missed something that allows you to have more.
>>98764023As long as you stay still Sokushinbutsu stances.
>>98764078It was kind of funny to make fun of him at first but desu I don't think softie or purebodyfag are necessarily wrong, just a bit overconfident. Both seem to have mellowed out after talking about it so his obsession with them is kind of grating.
>>98764028Combining terracotta soldiers with another summon rite seems really strong.
>>98764108Yeah, probably. Though I don't think all 50 soldiers would become individually equal to the other thing you're fusing them with, they'd still get useful abilities. If you want a swarm of cheap combat summons, it's probably the best option in the CYOA. Some others are conceptually similar, like the ghost summoning one, you could probably do similar things with those.
>>98763775No wonder they like mortals so much
>>98763775Stupid boys. Get along already! Why are you always trying to fight? Play mean girl social games instead!
>>98762888>RaceShapeshifter>PotentialMutated>ScenarioAge Of TruthAge Of TrigramAge Of DyadAge Of Conflict>ConscriptionInstitute Apprentice>LocationFeudal Spirit Châteaus>Benevolent AlterationsSacred FountainEccentric (Magmatic)ProdigyAnimal Blood (Parrot's Tongue, Lion's Appetite)>Malevolent AlterationsAge Disjunction (Younger)FanserviceHellfire DebtOld Grudges>Aura SystemVast Specialist>Recovery DispositionNutrition x2>AffinitiesCore G0Phase G1Flow G3Alchemy G3>TrainingsScholarship Legendary (Science, Medicine, Engineering)>Release TechniquesSense AuraBody EnhancementAnimal Form (Hummingbird)Perennial Vegetation ConductionFae Spore ConductionTwisted Flesh ConductionMind SplittingOmnipotent Synchronicity Of The ElementsLegend Status: Encompassing World Avatar>EquipmentQuicksilver Immortality Pills>FactionsRed Demon Clan (Nemesis)Hair Tribe (Nemesis)Jiahao (Nemesis)>New Sect (Xanadu)Feudal Spirit ChateausLuxuryCreaturesSecrets (Special Advantage)>CampaignsVisitations to the Mortal WorldFiller ArcTechnique CollectionGhost at the PartyFinal ExamField StudyNight of Lantern BugsRuin RaiderThe Jade Sovereign's Orthodoxy>RelationshipsZuruzaba (Rival)Teraba The Savage (Rival)Faye (Rival)Super druid time. On top of being able to combine my conductions with extreme skill and efficiency, I can make super powerful vessels I can then inhabit with mind-splitting. I do have a bunch of enemies but they can't really hurt me for the most part (barring a few exceptions I need to watch out for). I will have to work towards a method of true soul immortality however, hopefully G3 Alchemy, Prodigy and me already having a Legend Status should smooth this over. Also I gotta do enough good deeds to fix my karma or press the Lunar Temple.minor edit, swapping out my rivals for ones that are already a part of my Nemesis clans. Also swapped Specialists for Creatures to better fit the theme.
>>98764164>creatures You have no way to make them.
>>98764168Ok but I have them?
>>98764168He is a shapeshifter with a penis.
>>98764164not having illumination of the heart is usually really bad, but with your nemesis and rival choices i see that what you want to be is a repeated punching bag for big strongly muscly guys and galsdefinitely should have taken the pain recovery disposition, you don't care about dying in one of your bodies with mind splitting, but you're still going to to feel the pain, may as well benefit from it
>>98763877I agree with this and IMO there is a real mechanical benefit to it. If you choose some random rival you might literally end up killing each other, but if it's thematic you end up competing via whatever the theme is and the anime logic comes in and enhances it as well. Zuruzaba and Sayuri will never really kill each other because they are thematic sword rivals for example. In fact they might actually be frienenemies which also explains why we can romance a rival.
>>98764172Fake and gay.
>>98764173With a penis? Damn. That's very rare for shapeshifters.
>someone figures out an ingenious way to just make new creatures through this thing called sex>all the virginal summoners scream in outrage
>>98763877>you're gonna win anyway because you have like ten times more powerB-but anon, I spent all my AP on waifus and potential...
>>98764180unironically, like 20%
>>98764175Well with EWA most physical damage just doesn't really do much to me if I don't want it to. Also I really want as little to do with pain as is physically possible.
>>98764213i told you to get rivals that are similar to you, if you're just derping around then clearly that means you should rival ono, katsumi, and suzu
>>98763812Bullshit, there are a bunch of defensive options outside of core initiate and martial arts for the non physically inclined. >>98763833And like that anon says if you aren't pursuing a real martial career you aren't really going to need it anyway. Most people are living fundamentally pretty mundane lives in Youdou so you don't need to punch people anyway.
>>98764199>The Vuseba meta works for a reason
>>98763812Do you really think Mr. Haremaster/Charismaman is gonna die with his army of 20 super aura users just because he has Core G0? Being a member of an organization alone already increases your odds astronomically.
>>98764248nta but isn't Mai only still alive because of how hard to kill she is?
>>98764233>milk Vuseba's spiritual tit milk and let her milk meI got it.
>>98764256Yes, but she's also only targetted because she's a goddamn Magistrate of Heaven, and the ONLY uncorruptible one among them at that. I don't think some strong aura user will try to kill you for no reason.
>>98764199stop making shit up anon that "sex" thing could never work
>>98763018Watch me go Yujiro Hanma (Bug edition) on whatever they send at me.
>>98764078I'm still enjoying my 70 aura summoner build for now, I almost want to post it again to see him have a meltie over it. I haven't really seen another build I think I'd like so far and I don't really want universal soveriegn.I will ask though, technique artistry legend or tactics legend?
>>98764336Both work. Tactics legend is best if you also have investigation legend because they synergize massively.
>>98764313what do you mean? are you going to rape them?
>>98764361Yes.
>>98764367T-this is true power... Now I see why they would leave you alone...
>>98764336I'm trying to think, even if you just purely want to maintain yourself as a summoner surely there's a better way to go about it than spirit subjugation.
>>98764398Spirit subjugation is necessary for his pokemon approach.
>>98764398The spirit ones are the only ones that don't have a power ceiling hardcap.
>>98764409nothing in the cyoa has a power ceiling hardcap, you can always train your body further and make use of any affinity better, summoning doesn't have an advantage in that sense
>>98764411It does because aside from the spirit summoning ones the summons don't get stronger if you train with them or anything.
>>98764423a lot of them have scaling mechanics built in, usually denoted with added aura expenditures, of all the summoning techniques, transmigration scales the hardest with aura, while universal sovereign scales the hardest in terms of insane combos
What do you think of almighty limb? Don't you basically just become a flow user with it?
>>98764436>a lot of them have scaling mechanics built in, usually denoted with added aura expendituresSo none of them have actual scaling mechanics beyond spending more aura? Yea that's what I said. That's why I don't blame softie for putting so much emphasis on large aura pools.
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>>98764454wow what if you read the other half of the post lmao
>>98764436>transmigration scales the hardest with auraIt does not. That would be spirit acolyte.
>>98764458So I forced myself to try and make a Purebody build. Had fun and had fun imagining it but ultimately, it’s more of a character concept for me. I decided to make a Stalker to make use of the undetectable aura even if it isn’t a super significant bonus as it is interesting to be able to fully pass as an inconspicuous non-aura user and leverage that (even decided to be the girl this time). You can tell that I usually favor potential maxing as even on this I went for trainings to make me a much better Stalker over getting the Martial Arts I wanted right away (I am sick of every PureBody taking Divine Hand anyway). In a way a Purebody can potential max within its niche better as our training can focus 100% on martial arts. Still, I sorely missed having access to a lot of things and a good part of my build was wrangling things that a Purebody can’t usually have (poison resistance, regeneration, etc.). It also influenced my loyalties as gaining access to powerful Spirits and their cults could get me access to indirect advancement like a Spirit improving my senses with Transfiguration, or rare potions for example.
>>98764462spirit acolyte is a hybrid of preparation and aura
>>98764460The rest was irrelevant.
>>98764472then your entire post was irrelevant :)
>>98764474I accept your concession wronganon.
>>98764476you can't, i already accepted yours and i'm not giving it back :)
>>98764468What the fuck is this supposed to mean? It just scales way more the more aura you put into it.
>>98764481Rapedanon raped yet again.
>>98764485oh, sorry, i thought you meant spirit subjugationnevertheless, both of them scale purely through large aura devotions, so i'd say they're still about equal
>>98764494I don't even know what you're arguing anymore. Spirit acolyte scales more than transmigration but less than spirit subjugation, transmigration is the worst of the three but can eke out over acolyte in really specific circumstances if you can get a spirit with really really good techniques, still requires more aura cause bait though.
>>98764510>Spirit acolyte scales more than transmigrationwhy
>>98764517Are you intentionally retarded or do you not understand how a custom tailored spirit that gets stronger the more aura you put into it is better than random spirits with random abilities that might be useful and require a bare minimum aura to work and bait?
>>98764527It's WRONGANON he's BAITING YOU!
>aura is cool>India coded is cool >Hinduism openly being discussed >rape rape rape aura aura do not question my izzat i rape you What the fuck happened to this thread
>>98764528Yea, you're right.
>>98764527they both get stronger with aura and are at the same level of technique, a custom one might be better because you're more used to it, but an arbitrary one might be better because it's more suited to whatever situation you need it forit's like sorcerer versus wizard in dungeons and dragons, but more extremetheir scaling from aura, however, is the same
Softie made me curious if oblative gesture or spirit subjugation would be made stronger with technique artistry.
>>98764023Teach Lifegiving Immolation Blessing to people and make them use it on you. Technically possible even without mind control.I call it Forbidden False Buddha Farm Strategy.
>>98764550every technique is better with technique artistry, including stronger under the right sidegrades, the simplest of which is just spend more aura, which would apply to oblative but not to subjugation
>>98764550Obviously the technique whose whole sthick is gestures would be the most enhanced by gestures that enhance techniques
>>98764569I doubt it's as direct as that, even if they are similar. Technique artistry might be especially great for figuring out new gestures though.
>>98764458I feel like you can probably do better than Spiral Impulse since you're already extremely good at martial arts.
>>98764587>>98764458yeah, spiral impulse is one of the weird martial arts where you need to wonder if this is best used by someone who's already great at martial arts or by someone who sucks at them and needs a crutch
>>98764532Entro-kiddies think India is cool now
>>98764458>>98764587Thinking it further Mountain-Smashing Lord would be best here, it's one weakness can be mitigated by strategy and bluffs which you are already extremely good at.
>>98764596>>98764532Just imagine what'll happen in a decade or two when the sudden internet connection boom that recently happened in india happens in most of africa
>>98763423>>98764532Softie behaving like a jeet is nothing new.
>>98764610Is he actually a jeet, he seems more like a dbz spic to me
>>98764617Is there really a difference?
>>98764610Stop replying to yourself.
>>98764622Yeah, jeets are more narcissistic
>>98764624No.
>>98764593Probably the latter, it's like blind bludgeon.
>>98764632it's hard to be sure because usefulness as a crutch doesn't automatically mean high skilled use has low potential
>>98764624>>98764629You really had to falseflag your own reply huh. Pathetic.
Did you know that you need to have martial arts training to properly use illumination of the heart? I was shocked when I realized too. But it says so right there, only a masterful martial artists gets the benefits.
>>98764617We know he's a Whitoid. I assume an American due to his forearm size. This was back when everyone was posting hands and we found out that most anons, or at least, those brave enough to upload images of their appendages, are fat.
>>98762888If you have Mistyc beauty do companion options cost -1 ep, as they have all benefits of romantic relationships?
>>98764657Oh I remember one of those episodes? Maybe it wasn't the same one. I got asked if I work out or work a lot of manual jobs, even though I don't. Feels nice if unearned.
>>98764650>saysOh no a Wronganon copycat. They are BREEDING!!!
>>98764647There's a reason we call him samefag sovereign.
>>98762888What is even the idea behind Celestial Alignment? Who takes it?
>>98764668Of course we are. I breed your mom daily.
>>98764700You align celestially
>>98764700Senguru don't want you to know, but Flow users can be great assassins as well.
>>98764700it's for flow builds, obviously, it's similar to EWA's ability to enter matter except more offensive in nature, probably way stronger if you have both>>98764714oh yeah, all those high-security compounds that have protections against phase infiltration and spirit shenanigans probably just fail against the impossible to predict bullshit of exotic element combos, you just need to have a high-level aura user playing sentry if you want something to be secure
You all job to phase builds.
You all job to COCK
>>98763396You don't. A legend training martial artist can't be as skilled as a legend weapon training + Heavenly Instrument build. The thing is a heavenly instrument user has to waste an alteration and 5 Aura points (and at least 3 EP but none cares), on their weapon while another build would spend nothing AND could eventually get a 3 trait weapon and improve it a bunch with the flow abilities after landing. Also a weapon user will likely want to incorporate regular martial arts into their fighting style which further divides them, while a martial artist can mostly ignore weapon arts (there are some interesting possibilities here but they aren't the focus). And as a last consideration an empty handed fighter can more easily incorporate hand gestures into his fighting style.
>>98764738Cassian...
>>98764734No, not all. The chosen one who has 60 aura doesn't job to any phase build, because phase can't do anything against a concentration of aura that extreme. The phase user doesn't phase the 60 aura chad, in fact it's the 60 aura chad that phases the phase user with his aura.
Can legend level technique artistry allow you to modify techniques?
>>98764754I don't know
>>98764754all levels of technique artistry let you do that, it just isn't very good until legend
>>98764760Please know.
>>98762888Secret Bonus for taking Pure Pool and Pure Body together?
>>98764764Ah, yeah, right. Slipped my mind.
>>98764772No, the secret bonus is when you take pure body and klutz together.
>>98764772You become a permavirgin.
>>98764779It secretly empowers racial traits?
How come CC didn't have the staying power of SC? Is it because SC has more to argue about
>>98764808cc is like if you made a sc with 12 affinities but didn't talk about any specific technique in them
>>98764808How are they at all similar?
>>98764814They're both chinaslop.
>>98764812Going into autistic detail about every single technique in every Method would have been tedious to read and would not have added much at all to the experience.
>>98764823yeah, clearly not, that's why cc is more popular than sc
>>98764820SC is jeetslop
>>98764831Same thing.
>>98764828SC is more popular because, despite CC featuring multiple bare nipples, it has a larger quantity and quality of titties.
>>98764838>CC featuring multiple bare nipplesWhat? Where?
>>98764840i immediately remember the fire method has them, i think he's right that there were more too
>>98764843How did it get past the jannies?
>>98764846nobody gave a shit
>>98764835CC had a lot cannibalism talk. SC is all about anons trying rape each other's assholes. Learn the difference
>>98764843That's a bubble not a nip!!!
>>98764855a cute little flesh bubble at the tip of the breast :)
>>98762888Best touch based attack?
>>98764808I read the second description that said something about resisting all other abilities and stopped
could you guys have an autistic hyperfixation on something I'm actually into instead of spirit conscript?
>>98764874You're right. Let's move on to Entropist.
>>98764860transformation
>>98764808There’s so much less options and synergies which would obviously lead to less discussion. Not including mechanics on top of it, just look at how many people are discussing techniques and how aura reserves/regeneration factor into things.
>>98764876How about something with more incest
>>98764876How well would your Spirit Conscript build fare if your Entropist build rolled in all swiggity-swoogity wanting to rape your booty?
>>98764886no way, autistic details like that would never help, it would be tedious to read and wouldn't have improved the experience!
>>98764874Name it at least.
>>98764901glory unto the sweet
>>98764904
>>98764876It would seem that most of the Sons are True Jeets now.
>>98764901vagueposting is my passion
>>98764950you seem way too sure of that for it to be true
>>98764889So sc. There you can do it while the ninokata beg you to impregnate your daughters
>>98764952so is it really my passion or is it something else?
>>98764862Vaugeposter...
>>98765010Anon was a sorcerer and couldn't fathom that other people could resist his hax.
>>98765015Sounds pretty retarded. Did this sorcerer have white hair by any chance
>>98764812literally this because CC is vagueposting the cyoa.
>>98764603Holy shit what a nightmare.
>>98765085bro like 30% of sorcerers have white hair
Naturenigga build: Perennial vegetation and fae spore conduction or transfiguration/animal summoning?
>>98765113Softie this would do numbers my nigga.
>>98765108So youre saying the retardation is linked somehow. Interesting
>>98765116which one
>>98765118yes, but there are even more consistent traitsfor example, well over 99% of sorcerers have anuses
>>98765124Hungry man thinks of bread
>>98765127i just used the bidet, they are very comfy, can recommend
>>98765127Also applies to >>98765116
Are terracotta warriors implied to be limited in number? Is that why you need to repair them instead of just summoning them again? You only have a limited supply of maybe a few thousand?
I just ate number 4 and now I have an idea for a fruit based cyoahttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/NRXz1vu50EY
>>98765141I don't see any anuses there?
>>98765158Turn off your screen
>>98765116>Benevolent AlterationsPure PoolCharismaticProdigyPerennial LotusSignature Technique (Perennial Vegetation Conduction)Signature Technique (Fae Spore Conduction)>Malignant AlterationsHellfire DebtOld GrudgesMagmatic>Aura SystemVast Generalist>Recovery DispositionNutritionLust>Aura AffinitiesCore G0Phase G1Flow G3Alchemy G3>Aura Pool40>TrainingCultivation - MasterTechnique Artistry - LegendCeremony - MasterTactics - LegendInvestigation - LegendScholarship (Science, Medicine) - Master>Basic Release TechniquesSense AuraBody EnhancementPerennial Vegetation ConductionFae Spore ConductionHerbal Lunar PoolSense Enhancement>Great Release TechniquesConduction FormMaster Status—Stoic ArchitectMaster Status—Reified ChampionMaster Status—Tandava Scourge>Legendary Release TechniquesAmplification Series: Animate NexusOmnipotent Synchronicity of the ElementsLegend Status—Encompassing World AvatarThoughts on this build then?
>>98765331Every Overpowered build without Limitless Meridians is laughable. Only meme OP builds without it are fine. They are still laughable, but by design, not because of incompetence.
>>98765353If you need limitless meridians to feel good about your build you're ngmi.
>>98765357If you cripple your potential for no good reason, you are simply incompetent.
>>98765364The only thing crippling your potential is thinking you need to spread yourself.
>>98765353Limitless meridians is more of a crutch power for anons that think they can do everything while knowing nothing. Respect to people that don't take it.
>>98765331She looks like she gets plapped by discord simps
>>98765331It's a nice conduction build. Personally I would replace animate nexus with medium sublimation. I don't think conduction form is necessary either, maybe take it out and replace it with something from alchemy instead, since you have G3 in alchemy. The lack of illumination of the heart is a bit painful, and that costs as much as conduction form, but it's under core.>>98765353I'd say the opposite, it's good to see a lack of limitless meridians.
>>98765331Bring the flamethrower Chimako.What is your plan against fire?
>>98765366>>98765376>>98765384If you plan to live forever, you can afford to think long-term. There are no practical benefits to specialisation unless you are constrained by time.
>>98765392stoic and reified make mundane fire irrelevant for him>>98765400that's assuming that each of the affinities are a closed off bubble and they represent your entire playgroundfor all you know each of them can go on forever, or you'll find additional ones, etc.
>>98765376Naw, people know what they want it's just that every affinity has that ONE power you don't want to be locked out of. Vast generalist is actually serviceable for most builds but there is also the raw talent aspect of a G3 as well (even if you are just learning G2 and lower powers having a G3 makes it easier).
>>98765384Medium sublimation is too extremely weird, animate nexus keeps me safe and I don't need to worry about things most of the time as nature literally protects me, and it gets better as I get more series techniques. Conduction form is one of the best great powers for flow because it boosts every single other conduction mode to be even stronger including the master statuses and it boosts your physicals AND gives you armor to protect against touch attacks and stuff. The only thing i'm missing is really more of the special series which are good advancements.>>98765392Perennial vegetation and fae spore stuff is already resistant to fire, just make it even more resistant through other defensive techniques.
>>98765416both things happen, you have builds that want three or four g3s, and you have builds that take almost nothing from their side affinities except "but someday, with technique collection..."this ignores the fact that having g3 in all four affinities already brings benefits of its own though, like if you have flow g3 and zero flow investment you're still a supergenius just from that
>>98765404>for all you know each of them can go on forever, or you'll find additional ones, etc.NTA but I would rather face that possibility with 4 G3s
>>98765425Medium sublimation is probably the strongest technique in the entire CYOA to be honest. At least if you have the proper combos.
>>98765428>but someday, with technique collection...Which is the strongest meta. Don't complain that anons potential max when the setting gives us a choice between our fundamental aptitude that's fixed and powers that very explicitly can be learned later with multiple options to improve said future learning.
>>98765439More like one of the vaguest, it does nothing until you decide to make it do something cyoa breaking. Doesn't matter for me anyways since it doesn't affect any of my techniques in a meaningful way since they're all combined in this build.
>>98765439Only because it enables head cannoning what it actually does.
>>98765442>>98765447You aren't supposed to break the CYOA with it any more than you do with normal techniques. Have some self-control.
>>98765449>self-control>Weeb setting Lol, lmao even
>>98765475In the sense that you have a huge body of examples of how techniques work. There's plenty of legendary flow techniques, and some of them even cost the same amount as medium sublimation. Just think it through.
>they don't fuse Gates of the Heavenly Prison with conductions to achieve superior version of Heavenly Regalia/dollar store walking ISS.
The funny thing about Limitless Meridians is the Pure body builds usually don't take it, when arguably they need it more than anyone else. They are already locked out of almost everything, they lock themselves out of even more by doing that. Even if it isn't their main they should take Ryoko and eventually learn Divergent Life Streams.
>>98765502>ISSbro it's just figurative, you can't make the international space station like that
>>98765483>It's balanced!>>98765439>It's the strongest ability in the entire CYOABoth can't really be true. Anon is OBVIOUSLY imagining game breaking combos (I don't really blame him because Flow is written as bait for that kind of thinking)
>>98765520Of course they can be true. If medium sublimation wasn't the strongest, then some other technique would be. And the fact is that you still need a lot of other strong techniques to get strong combos out of it. The only game breaking combo that has actually occurred to me via medium sublimation so far is hadron prism conduction infused into illumination of the heart. Hadron prism has the property that it has to entirely collapse all at once or else it dissipates incoming force, so consequently if infused into illumination of the heart, it would cause your mind and soul to have a very high threshold of invulnerability when compared to normal illumination of the heart. You still wouldn't be literally immune, but if the incoming damage doesn't destroy your mind or subvert your soul in a single instant, then you don't get attrition either.
>>98765541Just proved my point. Flow is matter and energy but you are imagining conceptual combos.
>>98765562They're necessary if you want to combo with affinities outside of flow, which the technique is explicitly for. Obviously making your brain physically sharp isn't a useful combo, and it would actually be more divergent from the point of illumination of the heart, even if it might be funny in a sense.More prosaic immediate combos are shit like using reified comboed with aura sense to spy on other people's meridians. There's always something cool you can find with it.The real point of medium sublimation is potentialmaxing though. Everything the dude before was saying about limitless meridians is even more true once you add medium sublimation on top.
>>98765562It's wronganon again, he loves flow and has said this stupid shit before.
>>98765577I'm not wronganon, wronganon is chaosfag.
>>98765331This seems fine to me, very interesting naturefag build. Are those conductions really your favorite as opposed to any of the other elemental ones?
>>98765577Yea I know he specifically has some legitimate matterjeet tendencies though so I don't think he is intentionally being wrong this time. Flow users think they can literally become Q from Star Trek and it's written that way. I actually appreciate the discussion on PCA sort of making SC as a parody because it explains why certain things are the way they are.
>>98765597I have never been intentionally wrong. I don't have any respect for chaosfag shenanigans.
>>98765604No it is sincere powergamer discussion which has always been contentious with SC.
>>98765586I don't even know to be honest, i'm extremely indecisive which is why I liked the summoner build since I can summon and bind entities to do anything.
>>98765597Exponential Muscle Density
>>98765597>>98765609>Flow users think they can literally become Q from Star Trek Examples?>contentious>noo you can't discuss the stuff in the cyoa, that's contentiousI don't care. People have the same problem with technique artistry, but everyone takes technique artistry.It's a good CYOA, I like the way the powers interact. I also disagree that PCA made any of the techniques as a troll, he put too much quality effort into them for them to not be labor of love, the trolling part was stuff like the giant tits on all the companions.
>>98765616That's one of the strongest transformation powers and costs as much as half the average anons aura pool, so it's fine.
>>98765616I had a lot of fun with a build based on that technique and I didn't need to torture the word exponential to do it.
>>98765616Anons sleep on this power because that becomes their baseline, so would be multiplied appropriately by enhancing powers.
>>98765622IT MEANS NOTHING. IT HAS NO MEANING
>>98765620PCA is the DM that decided to not prevent the munchkins from doing stupid shit anymore. He intentionally removed all the guardrails.
>>98765630>the humble illiterate
>>98765631It's the absolutely correct choice. Sure this can result in some dumb conversations and memes like this dude who's in love with the word exponential, but for those who try to take the CYOA seriously it's a much better CYOA than if it had guardrails.
>>98765634how does "muscular density" become "exponential"
>>98765640Do not know what the word exponential means?
>>98765640You multiply it by an exponent. x^2 as much mass per 100 meters of muscle or something.
>>98765616Exponential Muscles are less than Legend Status so it's fine. That is why I made a mythic beast build though. It's a better cheaper version of Inhuman Evolution (which is good because otherwise Shapeshifters really don't have a lot going for them).
>>98765616I would love to use this power but once again my indecisiveness would prevent me from deciding on forms, that and needing to find art.
>>98765656I think they're quite different. With inhuman evolution it would be hard to justify breathing fire as a dragon, it's supposed to take onthe aesthetic of super-biology, while mythic beast includes a lot more outright magical stuff. Different techniques for different builds.
>>98765637>those who try to take the CYOA seriously it's a much better CYOA than if it had guardrailsI agree anon, but it essentially means everyone has their own personal head canon. The bad faith anons don't realize the setting itself breaks under their interpretations.
>>98765664Do it the other way around. Find art you like and then just make those forms.
>>98765679That's easy once, maybe twice, but not four times.
>>98765675Are you implying Dragons can't be STRONK? They get the magic shit AND peak biology so it is a better power all around.
>>98765678This just means /mcyoag/ needs more tard wrangling, it's not a real problem for us.>The bad faith anons don't realize the setting itself breaks under their interpretations.They do, otherwise it wouldn't be bad faith. They just don't give a shit.>>98765685No. I'm saying they have different aesthetics. I made an autistic form of sight that scans the entire elctromagnetic band in monochrome with my 16 point form in inhuman evolution. That's way too science fiction for mythic beast. I made a tiger that roars terrifyingly enough it exorcises. That's way too magical for inhuman evolution.
>>98765692>>98765685>I made a tiger that roars terrifyingly enough it exorcises.*with mythic beast.
>>98765692Sure different Vibes but since Magic can do literally everything Sci-Fi can and more so Mythic Beast is just outright superior and cost 8 less aura. Honestly though it doesn't matter too much as anything one couldn't do, could be achieved with additional techniques.
>>98765692>needs more tard wranglingWhat do you think we have been doing the past few threads?
>>98765738Arguing and shitposting. There's no multiplyer framework to wrangle anyone into.
If PCA had given me hot companions all of this could have been solved much earlier.
>>98765718Also I am saying it is better in a vacuum. In practice it's gate kept by animal blood and if we compared it to an Inhuman Evolution user it might come up short if the IE user was say an Undead with, Litch's rattling bones, and even a human has 4 more aura and likely better recovery dispositions.
How exactly did the multiplayer framework work for entropist anyway. Can't you use your free gift for Astra and immediately fuck off into the dreamworld.
>>98765788With inhuman evolution you can do shit like electric eel shocks AND strange senses AND exponential muscle density, AND other things you can come up with. As long as it's vaguely reasonable for a technique burning 16 aura (but notably without devoting it), it's all good. My poor thunder tiger only got a really cool roar. Like, that roar was better than any singlue of those inhuman evolution things, but still.
>>98765756No just anons saying each others builds are Invalid
>>98765806That's where the tard wrangling would need to start.
>>98765805You can get an electrical attack if you pick the right Mythic Beast and for pure physical stats, the rationale may be different but the end result is the same.
>>98765821You can, but you can't get multiple things like that at once. Mythic beast just gets one. My tentacle monster form had muscle enhancements, regeneration, electric eel shocks, advanced senses, etc. Inhuman evolution is different in two ways. One is more granularity. The other is it's more science-fiction coded. For me, that makes meaningfully different techniques that are balanced with each other. For you, it doesn't need to.
>>98765830Mythic Beast can reasonably get the absolute peak of biology so I don't see any real benefit to Inhuman Evolution outside of being able to design it's shape past any mythological form for pure combat and that you get 3 forms instead of one. Sorry anon but bioengineered muscle isn't better than mythical muscle.
>>98765845It can get peak normal biology. It can't get wonky sci-fi biology. You can't justify some things as mythic in character, only as its main magical ability, and in that case it needs to have a mythic character that pulls from stories rather than from particle physics or something.
Softie may not be physically strong, but he is sexually the strongest build seen in a while. He is training on 60 succubi a day plus succubi infestations.
>>98765895Pfft, he didn't even take any sort of sexual damage resistance option.
>>98765898He did take lust recovery method. What else is there?
>>98765902Pain would be the next one :)
>>98765902Reconciliation of the immortal coil. Gotta make yourself more resistant to sex damage so you can go forever. It has to be sex damage specifically, normal resilience doesn't count because it just doesn't okay?
>>98765873>wonky sci-fi biologyNo it gets mythic fantasy biology. I will concede wonky though. You haven't given very good examples of that though (senses were your best example). Like I think mythic dragon scales are just as strong as engineered metallic exoskeletons but maybe the exoskeleton has weird magnetic properties and can selectively deflect metallic weapons. That actually brings me to a meta consideration. I have considered learning Inhuman Evolution on certain builds but I wouldn't take it out of the gate as I know I would be able to come up with better forms after getting real experience in Youdou.
>>98765917The problem is that one speaks to your imagination more while the other doesn't, probably because you aren't a natural science nerd like I am. That's okay. You should just trust me that someone else finds the difference useful and meaningful.
I'll say it, I do think softies build is cool. I liked geto and I think he could do some pretty OP stuff with the right spirits.
>>98765926I admire his willingness to stick to his guns at least.
>>98765926Credit where credit is due it is entirely unique.
>>98765922You know anon, I understand what a back handed compliment is. I understand sci-fi perfectly fine. You seem to not understand fantasy though. This is why I said you have matterfag tendencies.
>>98765941Don't compare me to that retard. I also didn't mean it as a veiled insult, I genuinely meant that you just seem like you aren't into it.
>>98765944>you aren't into itYea that's probably true. Sci-fi can only win me over with full cybernetics when it comes to a body upgrade. Otherwise bioengineered Umbrella Corporation monster isn't as fun as legendary dragon (now if it was a legendary dragon mutated by umbrella then we might be onto something).
>>98765981To me they are different palettes. At least in the context of these two otherwise roughly equal techniques. I appreciate both, but find them appropriate for different circumstances that don't overlap by more than maybe half of each. Imagine what matterjeet would think about this.
>>98762888Are there any CYOAs more Indian than this one?
What is the "Rite of Dashavatara" in the golden centenniel avatar?
>>98765990Universal War maybe? Spirit conscript mostly only has hindu cosmology, the cultural side is way more japanese.>>98765996It's a mystery, but it's probably not any good for the kid.
>>98762888Thread opinion on being able to upgrade training ranks given to you for free?
>>98766006Indirectly because it is a very blatant ripoff of Kill Six Billion Demons which is super Indian but as it's own setting it drifts back towards western with it's sci-fi and more overt Gnostic elements.
>>98766030The intent is pretty obviously no. You can't take a free master and upgrade to legend for 2 points.
>>98766035Yeah, but it feels like the hindu shit is more prevalent in the culture and people than in spirit conscript.>>98766030We're not the cops, but we'll still put you under arrest.
>>98765986That's fair and I do think Inhuman Evolution has value for the third more expensive form if it is well thought and has synergy with other choices.
>>98765996Kid's going to be possessed by a Spirit. It would be super funny to let one of the Majushin old guys do it, and then seduce "her" with mystic beauty.
>>98766040Yeah that's what I figured. Kinda funny that being given something prevents you from obtaining something greater.
>>98766043Yea Spirit Conscript is very culturally Japanese, but I would say Universal War is culturally Christian with Indian influences. It's also worth noting that the Indian stuff did organically merge with China and Japan as well. Like Yama and Yudi is Indian in origin but also 100% a thing in East Asia.
>Universal War is le Indianretards.
>>98766090are you the guy who seethed that it's heavily inspired by ksbd specifically rather than by ksbd's own influences directly
>>98766090The Dark One is baiting us.
>>98766094no I barely participated in this thread because I'm not into asian stuff
Hinduism's cosmology is actually pretty cool. I wish Indians weren't so subhuman that they tarnish their religion (and thus Spirit Conscript) by association.
>>98766099i'm referencing some retard seething about universal war's influences like five or more years ago>>98766100it is, and it's cool we get to enjoy it from afar
>>98766094NTA but that's an important distinction. Universal War is VERY derivative of not just KSBD but a ton of media which also has its own influences.
>>98766106>it's cool we get to enjoy it from afarYea it is always a mistake to get too close
I picture my build saying "Omayiooou" to everyone else's build with this song in the background. Pic rel.https://youtu.be/mDZb4Fs6G4E
Alright real talk how do we put all these fucking evil spirits in their place in SC?
>>98766124We need to breed good spirits
>>98766124Sovereign's build desu
>>98766124Just kill them. It's not complicated and the CYOA gives you ridiculously strong choices, both personally and strategically.. >>98766128 works too, but he plays with his food too much.
>>98766133Does Sovereign's build eat them
>>98766137apparently he's a fat american so I wouldn't rule it out, they're probably a lot more nutritious than american food too
>>98766124Not lumping them all together for a Start. Vuseba is way more evil than the others.
>>98766147All of the big spirits are evil and yama and yudi are incompetent.
>>98766123Never actually saw the anime anon. I will say most anons builds should be able to get along with a few notable exceptions.
>>98766165I won't lie man my build isn't even overpowered or anything that guarantees it against the others, pic just likes talking shit.
>>98766156I resemble that remark!
>>98766182First time in my life I've seen someone else use this phrase. I am so thankful for you
>>98766182Nobody ever gets that it's a pretending to be retarded thing. Very frustrating
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>>98766237>>98766246Kek, you are welcome
>>98766124I got bored before bed and inspired by this comment ENTER:>Benevolent AlterationsPure PoolCharismaticProdigyHeavenly Instrument (Soul Severing Blade Haja ç ´é‚Ş)Perennial LotusSignature Technique (Secret Weapon Art—Blade that Cleaves the World)>Malignant AlterationsHellfire DebtOld GrudgesMagmatic>Aura SystemVast Generalist>Recovery DispositionNutritionMeditation>Aura AffinitiesCore G2Phase G2Flow G2Alchemy G2>Aura Pool40>TrainingWeaponry - LegendCultivation - MasterTechnique Artistry - MasterCeremony - LegendAcrobatics - LegendAthletics - LegendTactics - MasterInvestigation - Master>Basic Release TechniquesSense AuraBody EnhancementCrossing LungeWeapon Link—Heaving Stone and Molten IronWeapon Link—Eternal Loyalty and Unerring TruthSense Enhancement Initiate Status—Resolute CenterInitiate Status—Oscillating Motion>Great Release TechniquesWeapon Art—Nimbus IaidoWeapon Art—Subtle TempestWeapon Art—Guillotine Thundercloud>Legendary Release TechniquesSecret Weapon Art—Blade that Cleaves the WorldWeapon Link—Harmonious Restriction and Resplendent CeremonyMajestic Weapon Injection>EquipmentAncient Bladed Weapon (Soul Severing Blade Haja ç ´é‚Ş) (Adaptive, Severing Shear, Silvered, Scar Scission, Terror Ward)Facial Breathing ClothDiscerning Traditional GarmentsNoble Modern FormalsImpersonating Solemn UniformNinja TabiPurification Bell
>>98766315Whoops flow is g3
>>98764164>>98765331Who is the Cooler Daniel?
>>98762888Where's the immortality option? looks like souls can't live past 200 years old or something from what I read in Vessel Transfer
>>98766724forbidden false buddah.universal sovereign.perennial lotus.making up your own.
>>98766246So how far along the A-Z are you?N?
>>98766803I
>>98766773Why spoonfeed him?
>>98766773Tbh I understand why the Majushin are closer to achieving the true Immortality goal than the others, and the flowfags seem like they're second. Soul mortality seems like the more important problem to solve compared to body mortality(pretty sure multiple techniques solve body mortality).Corefag immortality probably needs them to merge their soul and their body so they're one and the same and I don't know about phase
The darkest truth is that cyoag does NOT want good CYOAs. Not truly, in their heart of hearts. They can say that they do, but they don't believe in it.They want CYOA they can vaguely reference while mostly talking about stuff like powers. Especially powers and shitting on eachother for cred.
I've pretty much given up on cyoag long ago
>>98766922I know you are baiting, but what your definition of good cyoas even is?
The only alternative to /cyoag/ are places filled to brim with literal fags, so /cyoag/ wins by default.
>>98762888Race: YokaiPotential: TalentedAge: Age of ConflictConscription: StalkerHome territory: the devil moon innBenevolent Alterations: Harem mode, Mystic Beauty, hard training signature technique(soft-strike san-shou), spirit blood(Craved and Sullied) Malignant Alterations: FanserviceAura system: Shallow specialist:recovery disposition: love x2Aura affinities: Core: G0, Phase G1, Flow G0, Alchemy G3Training: Legend Deceit, Master stealth, Master TacticsBasic release technique: sense aura, body enchantment, aura draining, kissing charm, carnal body sigil, Merciful RecidivismGreat techniques: Poison specialist, soft-strike san-shou, Transfiguration, Pandemic PerspectiveLegendary: (-15)divergent lifestreamsCampaigns:Slave hoarding, Shen Ro, the tenth magistrate of hellCompanions+RomanceJunko, Rin, Lady Hakuma, Futaba, Dr. Aki, Yomi, Ono, Niwamaru, Faye, Mai, Kohana Kohaku Koharu, Ming Yue, Arisa, RyokoRival+RomanceSuzuThe great jobber brat trap build. Pretty much useless in straight up combat, but will fuck you into unconsciousness, cripple you and turn you into a sex slave. It might be the random jobber you fought begging to be spared in exchange for sex. Maybe she took the form of one of your waifus or maybe they are the new waifu you got? Maybe he is impersonating you and fucking your waifus? Always be careful when fucking it might be the jobber brat in disguise one kiss or a few taps and you might be a goner. Nevertheless, the warnings fall to deaf ears, I am not a jobber, I will not lose to a brat and I definitely won’t be turned into a little girl.
>>98766773Also consumate self incarnation
>>98766952>U r le heckin baitingWhy are you such a sniveling little faggot?It's true. Cyoag wants shitpost material, not actually good CYOAs. As long as there is something to shitpost and power scale about, they will tolerate anything, from AI slop images to nonexistent style or formatting.
>>98766972Cute rapebait
>>98766897I dislike the immortalityfag, but if he asks why not answer?>>98766976True, might work.Also my meme kalpinator build.
>>98766976>Also consumate self incarnationNope, no soul agelessness for Core outside of ISS autism.
>>98767019If you keep feeding him he'll keep doing it.
>>98766991yeah the build is weaponized rapebait, there was a lack of sex assassin builds. Subterfuge is an underestimated aspect of spirit conscript. When are aura users most vulnerable? mid fuck of course. Your not going to dodge, phase or block if you don't even know its an attack. This is why I found soft strike san shou very intriguing as it can do a lot of shit with seemingly harmless strikes, also kiss charm I have no idea if something can resist kiss charm as its a racial ability not a release technique. divergent lifestreams is mostly there to go trough stuff like illumination of the heart so anyone could be turned into a little girl via Transfiguration for the gimmick value also to spread jobberism.
>>98767026should work as it stops all mundane damage that is not infused with aura, soul decay is a form of mundane damage.
>>98767049I will NEVER have sex!
>>98767052wog says no.
>>98767055The brat will then bully you and call you a sexless virgin
>>98767057which wog?
>>98767068https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/95392714/#q95396583>Author here, I'm gonna end this debate because it's a pretty trivial and easily remedied misunderstanding.>"day to day aging" refers to natural aging, basically. I wanted to make it clear that you would not, for instance, be immune to aging as inflicted by Senescent Youth Curse. Your soul still ages in Consummate Self-Incarnation because the ability is expressedly targetting and protecting your body.
>>98767083huh... I guess then sukushinbutsu won't protect you from soul decay either as its a core technique so its most likely also expressedly targeting and protecting your body.
>>98762888>tfw I could achieve a Vast Aura System>tfw I would have to sacrifice suboptimal flavour picksIt hurts bros. .>>98766972I would make him my wife
Is there a color version of this one?
>>98762888For release techniques that require you to expend all your aura to cast, can you restore your aura at the same time by other means like Aura Draining or Dan Tien Liquor Flask so you don't bottom out?
>>98767225don't think so, you can do it afterwards but doing it at the same time would probably just drain any aura you gain. But you only have problems with bottoming out if you have lifelink otherwise its not really an issue.
>>98765793Yes, all the loser neet Sons made dreamland builds
H-hogs...
>>98762888Updated my old build. Drunken Institute Apprentice.I feel like I managed to keep the same flavour, maybe even refined it while increasing the power output.He likes to hang out with Spirits, drink spirits, research history and heals the poor with the Herbal Lunar Pool in the hopes it balances out his karmic debt.Race: HumanPotential: ConditionedScenario: Age of Dyad Dvapara YugaConscription:Institute ApprenticeHome Territory: Feudal Spirit ChateausBenevolent Alterations:-Pure Pool, x4 Aura Reserve, Free-Spirit Blood (Inebriated), -1Malignant Alterations:-Lifelink, +7-Memory Tampering, +3-Hellfire Debt, +4-Malevolent Possession, +4Aura Sytem: Vast Generalist, x30 Aura ReserveRecover Dispositions:-Nutrition-Alcohol-Alcohol+Aura Affinities:-Core G2, -1-Phase G1, -0-Flow G1, -0-Alchemy G3, -3Training:-Cultivation (Master), +6AR, Free-Technique Artistry (Master), Free-Ceremony (Legend), Free-Martial Arts (Master), Free-Acrobatics (Initiate), -2-Athletics (Initiate), -2-Stealth (Initiate), -2-Investigation (Initiate), -2-Scholarship (Master (Artistry & History)), -3Release Techniques:-Ancesteral Recourse, -4Core Techniques:-Martial Art - Sake River, -FreeAlchemy Techniques:-Dan Tien Liquor Flask, -Free-Herbal Lunar Pool, -4-Initiate Status - Arcane Acument, Free-Oblative Gesture, -10Equipment (EP)-Disguising Jingasa, -1-Facial Breathing Cloth, -1-Lockpicks, -2Factions:-Majushin, The Sorcerer Dynasty (Member), -1-The Six-Finger Mafia (Ally)-The House of Catacomb (Ally)-The Hellion Mob (Foe)-The Pale Demon Clan (Foe)-The Hair Tribe (Nemesis), +1Campaigns:-Visitations to the Mortal World-Technique Collection-Filler Arc-Field Study-Night of Lantern Bugs-Ruin RaiderCompanions:-Dr. Aki, -2-Teraba the Savage, -2-Katsumi, -2-Riku (Malewife), -2
>>98767357Why would you take Lifelink and not Pain disposition?
>>98765895>>98765926>>98766128>>98766137Pathological self glazer
>>98767357why do you need so much aura?
looks like mcyoag is finally gone for good lmao
There is no escape>>98767419>>98767419>>98767419
>>98767366You're right. I could switch out Food for Pain. But I like food.>>98767404Buddy, do you know how much Herbal Lunar Pool I'm going to create to balance out my karma? Besides, the larger my pool the longer it takes before Lifelink really starts fucking me over.
>>98767404he doesn't have much aura, 34 is average for a build
>>9876795040aura
>>98764164cute faeboiwould fug