Do you have "accidental" wars or is every one of your conflict a squeaky clean "the good guys went to war with the bad guys"?
>>98763749eberron's last war is one giant accidental war
>>98763749I mean, the winners always write themselves as good guys but also wars are usually economically based rather than morally based.
>>98763749Whoever wins and writes history decides history, odd how the good guys always win huh?
>>98766495In the short term.Though the short term is where man tends to live.
>>98763749My setting is slowly slipping into a civil war that no one wants, everyone is trying to prevent, but is basically inevitable, the empire long divided must unite, long united must divide, thus it has always been.
>>98766495So the monks won a decisive victory at Lindisfarne?
>>98766495>>98767088thats a bit of an oversimplification of historypublic perception of the eastern front was largely written by the germans,the losers, due to political expediency in getting generals with experience in fighting the soviets into post-war german military positions and a lack of anyone willing to go to the USSR and look through their records to set the record straightonly the first crusade was an unambiguous victory followed by a dozen failed ones but we mostly go by the crusaders accounts of history because they are the ones who went home and got their story toldhistory is decided by whoever is politically expedient and this has often involved writing down the losers side of the story because it was more convenient
>>98767121>a civil war that no one wants, everyone is trying to prevent, but is basically inevitableIt's still a civil war if one side calls it a policing action while the other half would naturally prefer to win without having to put their life on the line.
>>98767260I'm sure this is a clever political commentary on modern burgerlandia but my setting is literally just fantasy imperial china about to have a(nother) warlord period.
>>98763762Interesting alternate history lore. How do you implement it in your game?
>>98767160Norway's flag is a cross, so yes.
>>98767160They got to meet their hebrew messiah, innit?>>98767189Bro, the majority of the holocaust narrative which is used to extract money from Germans to this day comes from the Soviets, and they dominated the IMT at Nuremberg too.>crusadesExpeditionary or colonial wars aren't lost the same way as regular wars, everyone knows this.
>>98767270The Burgerlandians have occupied both sides, actually. They stated that they'll gladly just overthrow the nation and dumpster the Constitution, but they are also prepared to perform policing actions to get it done.
>>98763749I prefer the one where it's not accidental at all, but the good guys went to war with the good guys anyway. I know it's not how it tends to shake out historically, but it makes for a more compelling narrative.>>98772285Real.
>>98772285and the majority of the historiography of soviet combat in the eastern front came straight out of the mouths of german generals>Expeditionary or colonial wars aren't lost the same way as regular warstherefore history is not always written by the loserssometimes the losers go home and write their story about how they lost, and that becomes recorded over the winners side more often than a winston churchill quote might suggest
>>98772153>The US will never have another civil war. It's not even matter of whether anyone wants it or not, both the two major political divides are neatly split into "Police, Military, everyone who owns a gun and everyone with money" vs "Faggots, trannies, criminals, foreign welfare rats and people with useless degrees and/or public sector jobs."There can be a prolonged civil war still. When the weak opposition gets funded, armed, and trained by foreign sponsors it can put up a fight. And when that opposition encompasses criminal underground, they won't hesitate to fight dirty. Which would be a delightful irony, considering that's the exact same strategy the US themselves used to destabilise other countries.
>>98763749Both are shitty.
>>98763749>WW1Literally who?
>>98773070>It's not even matter of whether anyone wants it or not, both the two major political divides are neatly split into "Police, Military, everyone who owns a gun and everyone with money" vs "Faggots, trannies, criminals, foreign welfare rats and people with useless degrees and/or public sector jobs."[X] This poster denied reality and replaced it with his own, simplified interpretation.
>>98773682Yeah the police in an area tend to be of the politics of the area. I come from a police family (my dad, two uncles and an aunt all police) and while my family is conservative a lot of the cops in Toronto are flaming leftists.
>>98763868>>98766495Neither of these are relevant to the question.Plus Napoleon didn't win and most histories still suck his dick.I'm sorry you're a redcoat/tankie/Spain fanboy but this meme has been done to death.
>>98773727Could be a Confederate fanboy too, Lost Causers fucking love this quote.
>>98773698Beyond that, they literally, in all practical terms, are the successor of local militia organizations. As such, they aren't a force that can be freely commandeered from Washington. After all, they aren't even beholden to the law.
>>98772844>the majority of the historiography of soviet combat in the eastern front came straight out of the mouths of german generalsHistory is more than combat records though. The holocaust mythology has a way larger impact on the average person's understand of the WW2 era than the exact K/D ratio of SS veterans to soviet conscripts. And the Soviet Union is the source of most of that atrocity propaganda.>sometimes the losers go home and write their storyThe metaphysics of an expeditionary war are different. It's more like a raid than a war. Not achieving your expeditionary objectives is nowhere near comparable to losing a war.But I understand what you mean, and taking the term war at its most simplistic to mean any collective armed conflict, then sure, you're right.
>>98773727>Plus Napoleon didn't win and most histories still suck his dick.Not for a century after his defeat, no. He was proto-Hitler until Hitler dethroned him in the historical mythology of Europe's most eeeeebil villain.
>>98773752Right forgot that one.Not enough whiskey rebellion fanboys out there for whatever reason
>>98773885It makes sense that gun ownership became a fetish, considering how hard the ruling class crushed that one.
>>98773727you're ignoring the part where if the winners didn't make napoleon at least competent, it would make them look extremely bad since it took 7 coalitions to take him down. same with the battle of Kursk
>>98763868>the winners always write themselves as good guysNo, the good guys just always happen to win. Because good > evil.
>>98763749There are two broad conflicts, a world-wide conquest by the Empire which is kinda questionable but they aren't outright evil, and said Empires earnest genocide of all Drow which is objectively good
