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*farts loudly*
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
Reject nu-hammer. Embrace tradition.
Gotta figure out how to convert this into a maulerfiend for slaanesh
>>98766425>Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98766420Why bother, if it has wounds it's not a tank. Also space wolf fag.
>>98766420
>>98766420>wolfspear decals on a space wolf tank>mixing great company decalsFuck I hate you.
Anon making his own edition for fun here. I'm ending up changing core rules more than I thought and figured I'd get some pre-emptive feedback.What would you want to see changed in a fan rulesetWhat would you not want to see changed in a fun ruleset?
>>98766447Also >Plasma glow effects on a fucking smoke launcher What in the comission paint fuck is that.
>>98766387>tqWhy, the Warbringer titan of course
>>98766454>glowstick smoke launcherslmao, I didn't even notice that
>>98766454>>98766462Clearly it's to launch the colored smoke for the yiff rave
>>98766425>>98766432At least we got it out of the way early>>98766406I haven't gotten sick of yours yet so I'm glad you were first>>98766457I love how aggressively american it looks
>>98766429Size seems appropriate for proxying
how often do you guys buy used plastics?
Thinking about getting a helbrute. I don't want to buy it and then have GW come out with an updated sculpt right after. It happened to me with guard and I'm still fucking mad about it.
>>98766525I got burned once. Never again. I cant trust you fucks to clean mouldlines for shit.
Huron+gangs or Chaos lord?
>>98766536Thats tough. On one hand Huron is really cool, but on the other hand... Chaos Lord...
In your opinion what is the worst army in the game currently? The best?
>>98766550Worst: your armyBest: my army
what is the most thematically correct word bearer them for base?I finished most of my infantries now but I still cant decide how to paint the bases
>>98766555Mystical ruins. I know it's too late to use sculpted bases like this or even a bunch of tiles and shit but just keep it simple.>glue bunch of sprue cut-offs and rocks>go over with the ol sand glue mix>paint grey/sandstone as you desire>freehand runes on the jutting bits of sprue/rocks
>>98766565>sculpted bases like thisAnd ofc I forgot the pic
>>98766536I want to like huron but I seen their stats profileand I dread using them to attack everits a fucking dice salads chosen is already bad enough
I've been thinking about making more and more custom stuff recently and I was thinking about what my characters would look like if they got their own datasheets. It's a fun little mental game. Maybe one day if I get a 3d printer I'll be able to sculpt them out myself and a buddy will let me play with rules like this. Here's one for Ricohardt, the Chapter Champion
>>98766599SANGUINARY CHAMPION RICOHARDTM6" T6 Sv 2+ InSv 4+ W6 LD 6+ OC1RANGED WEAPONSCRIMSON SMITE - FOCUSED WITCHFIRE[SUSTAINED HITS 3, HAZARDOUS, PSYCHIC] R 24" A D3+3 BS 3+ S 5 AP -2 D 2CRIMSON SMITE - WITCHFIRE[SUSTAINED HITS 1, PSYCHIC] R 24" A D6 BS 3+ S 5 AP -1 D 2BOLT PISTOL [CLOSE-QUARTERS]R 12" A 1 BS 3+ S 5 AP -1 D 1MELEE WEAPONSARCHANGEL'S SHARD AND DAURON[TWIN-LINKED, ANTI-CHARACTER 4+, PRECISION, PSYCHIC]R Melee A 5 WS 2+ S 6 AP -3 D 3 ABILITIES CORE: LONE OPERATIVE FACTION: COMBAT DOCTRINESLibrarian(Psyker Level 2): This model has the psychic abilities listed in the Psychic Abilities section Supernatural Fury (Once per battle, per unit): In the fight phase, when this unit is selected to fight, if this unit made a charge move this turn, you can use this ability. If you do, this models melee attacks have: * +3 A* ANTI-CHARACTER 3+PSYCHIC ABILITIESRUDDY WINGS (psychic level 1): In the movement phase, if this unit is not battle-shocked, you can make a psychic roll for this unit by rolling one D6. If you do: *On a 1, this unit is battle-shocked *Until this unit is battleshocked at the beginning of your movement phase, this unit has M 12" and the FLY keywordSALVIFIC FORESIGHT (psychic level 1): At the end of your opponent's charge phase, if this unit is not battle-shocked, you can make a psychic roll for this unit by rolling one D6. If you do: *On a 1, this unit is battle-shocked *If this unit is an eligible target for the Heroic Intervention Strategem, you can target this unit with that Strategem for 0CP, and can do so even if you have already targeted a different unit with that Stratagem this phase.UNIT COMPOSITION * 1 Sanguinary Champion Ricohardt - EPIC HEROThis model is equipped with: 1 Archangel's Shard and Dauron; 1 Crimson Smite; 1 Bolt Pistol FACTION KEYWORDS: ADEPTUS ASTARTES, NIMBUS GUARDKEYWORDS: INFANTRY, CHARACTER, EPIC HERO, EXPLOSIVES, PSYKER, IMPERIUM, TACTICUS
>>98766601So, what do you think? Would this be a reasonably interesting character to play against? How many points should he cost to be fair?Also, as an aside, while I was making this I noticed that Chief Librarian Tigurius doesn't have the Imperium keyword in the new codex. Simple misprint, or subtle hint at the future? Perhaps the blueberries will be humbled soon enough...
>>98766550My impression mostly aligns with what the win rate data suggests, which is that orks, dark angels, and custodes are the best, while guard is the worst.Necrons have been near the top for years as well, and Tau are also in that top several placement as well. Guard is probably dead last. Eldar are in rough shape too but not as bad as them.The of course Agents are perpetually bad for years, but they actually eke out a reasonable win rate despite that.Then there are a couple armies where just their win rate alone is misleading, because they're in rough shape but one or two broken datasheets or strategems are carrying them despite most of the book being shit, which is SoB. Hallowed Martyrs detachement strategmens reviving Morvenn Vahl gives you a high win rate, but if you removed her the book would freefall plummet, and that's not really good faction design, GW should rework them.The one that surprises me is Marines. They have over 20 detachments to choose from, by far the most options, every special rule favors them, they have rerolls out the ass, they have undercosted stat check profiles especially gravis, they have the most players for resources to learn, and they get new stuff every week, and yet marine players somehow give themselves a 45% win rate. It must have something to do with marines being the starter noob army, so every new player plays them but doesn't have a grasp on the game's fundamentals so they lose often. Or something. Because the book and sheets are strong, so something is going on.Here's a helpful link https://listhammer.info/stats
>>98766533Wouldn't you be stripping it anyway? What's stopping you from cleaning them yourself?
>>98766550Best is probably Dark Angels right nowWorst probably Chaos Knights or TSons(I ignore agents)
>>98766612Ntab it's more annoying to remove mold lines on a built mini, better to do it before assembling. Another thing I dislike is caked up paint hiding shit, like botched kitbashes or even recasts.
>>98766616Can knights ever truly be bad with how awkward of a matchup they are for most others>>98766617I guess that's fair. I could see that being a real problem depending on where exactly the lines are
So why does GW not try to get people to play AoS compared to 40k? I never see people play AoS. Found out at this LGS I went to try a Spearhead for the first time as it was Spearhead night, turns out 3 people only ever come. Me being the 4th one. So what the absolute fuck is GW doing?
>>98766525Hydrocephalic moeblob
>>98766601>>98766606>would this be reasonably interesting to play againstI mean he's basically Mephiston if Mephiston wasn't trash. 175 points is probably fair.I'm not a huge fan of once-per-battle abilities but that's just me.If you write up some lore for this guy I'll put it under the Nimbus Guard in the book.
>>98766648the kitbash bits line that you use to pretty up your 40k mini?
>>98766425I hate you only because you make me want to fuck 2d women.
>Orks seems okay but very one-or-two note>Marines get such a crazy army-wide retool that the majority of factions have to get rewritten to accommodate>Custards are basically playing Kill Team for an editonYou've heard of the Horus Heresy books now get ready for the Rules Rapery series, written by somehow even-gayer people than the Black Library guys.
>>98766525Cute duck
>>98766648>why does GW not try to get people to play AoS compared to 40k?Huh? They advertise the shit out of it, tf more do you want them to do?>my personal experience at my one LGS is indicative of the whole world!AoS is definitely less popular than 40K but just because there's only 3 players at your game store doesn't mean squat. It's pretty heavily played at mine, but my FLGS also does army building comps that alternate between 40K and AoS so there's more incentive there.
a thought is haunting me: there used to be a weapon (or a special rule?) in earlier editions that would worsen the result on vehicle damage table by 2, but the final result could not be higher than 5. so it functions like AP1, but it never causes explosions. I thought it was a DE weapon, but I got nothing. also this bread needs more eldar titanic stuff.
>>98766661Oh wait I see Rico is already mentioned in your lore. Added his datasheet
>>98766648Much weaker launch and just not as popular a setting. It has some great stuff like the sea-elves, but it's also got a lot of unintersting stuff and already has factions that feel more forgotten than just about anything in 40k. 40k has been in an explosion of popularity for a while now so it's better to focus more on it.>>98766666Those digits. Hail penta-satan.
>>98766648Before a closer LGS opened near me the one I went to had more AoS players by a large margin. It was also more of a competitive scene which was kind of fun and other times just brutal.
>>98766679Glancing hits maybe?
>>98766648It's like if Primaris marines were an entire setting. A lot of ill will that will never go away because of the way it all started
>>98766452Large games - 3rd edition core probably with 4th edition codex or cherry picking the best of codex, forgeworld etc rules from that time period. Epic Armageddon unit activation.Small/skirmish games - 2nd edition rules. Epic Armageddon unit activation.
>>98766697I think glancing hits never triggered the table, only pen hits. but maybe there was a rule or something I missed/
>>98766387Hey everyone, collageanon here.Here is the september collage. The theme was "retro". Some nice old models and some classic takes on a few more recent ones. Well done all of you.Energy/plasma weapons won the vote. That means for this month anything using a ranged weapon that glows is fair game. Alternatively if that's not your speed you could paint something in the seasonal theme, halloween/spooky. Or you could combine both if you'd like.Feel free to share your thoughts and suggestions.Thanks for participating!Until next time!
>>98766703The new Legion of the Damned box bringing in more realistically proportioned pre-Mark X armour was one step forward but right along with two steps back taken with the binning of all the Rhino chassis vehicles and boxnought.Also while they have broken the seal on larger old armour that doesn't fix the 9 years of damage they've done to the backstory of the universe.
Had a game against Black Templars that was a total bloodbath. I made a couple bad tactical decisions and some unlucky rolls though and ended up losing but it was very fun
>>98766709The plan is for core rules to skew more nu-40k, but unit design to skew more old 40k.What are the armageddon unit activation rules?
>>98766720BasedBasedBasedCool models anons
>>98766720I like how a lot of people went with the goblin green bases
widely known horde army, drukhari
>>98766720Lovely khorne berserker. The black reach captain is very cute too.
>>98766672>You've heard of the Horus Heresy books now get ready for the Rules Rapery seriesThat was more of a stretch than your blown out asshole. Also I dunno, ask /hhg/
>>98766763They're definitely about to be. GW just updated the MFM again this morning and removed all the unique tags from their detachments. Expect 60 wyches and 30 hellions in every list now that they all get combat drugs AND lethal hits with SoS and SoS together.
>>98766720my favourite is of course mine but second are those genestealers
>>98766720Damn, great showing from all who did participate. Wish I hadn't been traveling all month and could have contributed.
>>98766720god damn I love the colors on that khorne berserker.
>>98766732So it would need a little tweaking but:Start of the turn - Strategy phase, both players roll a D6 and add their army Strategy rating, highest total gets to pick if they go first or second.Action phase - The player going first picks 1 unit and gives them an action:Advance - Move once and shootEngage - charge and fight an assaultDouble - Move twice, shoot with -1 penaltyMarch - Move 3 times..etc...Action roll - roll a d6 get equal or over the units initiative to carry out the action (this would need to be changed to under the units initiative for 40k where higher stat is better), if failed you can only Hold - move once, or shoot once.If the first unit passed it's action role then after doing it's action you may pick a second unit and do the same again but with -1 to the action roll. You can't activate a third unit even if this second unit passes its test.Then it is the other players turn to activate a unit.
>>98766763Did you ever play in 9th edition where they were criminally undercosted?
>>98766771Oh shit double wyches
>>98766795Very interesting, but out of scope for what I'm doing. Thanks for the feedback though.
>>98766771and marines got point reshuffles
>>98766771>Periapt of Torments 20pts>Periapt of Torments 25ptsAre you allowed to have two enhancements with the same name if they come from different Detachments? Also funny that they have different costs.
>>98766817Yes.Also one is strictly better than the other because one disables overwatch and one disables snap shooting (overwatch and indirect)
>>98766771More importantly, ALL THE HARLEQUINS DETACHMENTS CAN BE USED TOGETHER NOW!Harlequins might actually be a real army again!
Space Marine points changed again this morning. Update your apps. I guess Wednesday had the wrong point values.
>>98766679I think the 5th edition Tyranid Venom Cannons got -1 to the vehicle damage table roll unless the target was open-topped.
How many here are doing hellblasters this month? Think I'll do a spooky legion of the damned one or something
>>98766672Orks were OP and became a shooting army, only now being nerfed into merely a top tier army. They do have internal balance problems but it's a very strong book.Marines got their most of their bottom tier weapons pushed to S5, and half their infantry went up 1 toughness. It's not half the "crazy army-wide retool" custodes are getting. It's nice that GW adjusted every marine faction at the same time, but they honestly didn't have to. The book has great internal balance and might end up being good, losing Oath means marine players have to build armies intelligently now with enough dedicated anti-tank, and most will probably fail that hurdle as they insist on gimmicky chapter builds.
Marine points went down to the previewed numbers wtf?
>>98766843AP1 on every weapon (there are only 3 profiles at AP0 in the entire book - CCWs, hand flamers and volkite pistols) is kinda huge
>>98766824>>98766843Forget what I said, marines are definitely good with 5-10 point discounts from yesterday's numbers.
I'm a little sad joke/reference didn't win. I was gonna recreate a jojo manga panel but with models.
>>98766854How many were there before? Phobos shooting got a lot stronger with AP-1 but they also stayed T4 in an increasingly S5 world. The repex getting AP-1 on its defensive array can be nasty but that also went up in points and lost its anti-fly 2+ guns (which I enjoyed).GW probably have gone a bit overboard on AP given the cover changes.
>>98766832this is indeed a similar mechanic that I wasn't aware of. still looking for +2 if anyone knows.
>>98766865There were tons. Every small bolter and knife on every unit is now AP1
>>98766874Combat knives were already AP-1. Close-combat weapons (ceramite fists) stayed AP 0. Bolt pistols now have heavy bolt pistol stats and will still do fuck all with 1 shot each.
>>98766890>marines weren't buffed>okay they were but it's inconsequential Lol, always knew marinepiggies were as disingenuous as libtards. Next it'll be>marines are getting buffed and that's a good thing>for the 10,000 years of their existence, marines have always been this strong and you're just a larper!
>>98766909The goalposts have been moved from "crazy army-wide retool" to "AP-1 on every weapon (which is isn't) is kinda huge" to "marines have been buffed" which no one was arguing against.
SHAS'O MONAT KAIS !
Marines are a bottom half army except for Dark Angels terminator spam builds and still nogames are crying that the new codex includes improvements. And then crying more when not everyone is crying with them about how terrible it is and how bad GW is at their jobs.
>>98766928Did you come here to cry into the void after reddit laughed at you or something?Terminator spam isn't even the best thing about dangles btw, it's bikes. Honk honk.
Which on your face and which on your dick?
>>98766933ones actually a dude
>>98766933its crazy how much cooler t'au would be if the mechs turned out to be just suits for 20ft tall t'au babes
>>98766938>20ftFuck off with your giantess kink, keep it to /d/
>>98766864As long as it contains plasma/energy it still counts, or you could just do it anyway
>>98766933My dick will be wedged firmly between both of their armpits
GW really fucked over Blood Angels huh?>Was at 45% winrate and got nerfed, now 40%Call me a conspiracy theorist but I think this was an unsubtle case of:>Release Armageddon as a Blood Angels edition so everyone paints BA>Then nerf BA so people "have" to buy new models
>>98766942>mtgyou are gay
>>98766938>>98766942
>>98766950Please do not lump me in with disgusting magic the gathering players. Thank you.
>>98766947>>98766954Ewww gross, I don't play that dreck. I just have a collection of pit-based images like a well-adjusted individual.
At a certain point, why don't non-marine players simply start killing GW designers and executives in order to both fix the game and stop the edition churn?
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98766928>Terminator spam buildsnogaems detected
>>98766966Why didn't marine players do the same when primaris? Or when every dedicated white chapter got token blacks hamfisted in?
Remember when GW tore down their giant mk7 chudlet marine statue like they just toppled some fascist dictator and replaced it with a sigmarine? I member
>>98766999why do niggas like you still engage with warhammer if you hate GW so much? why not quit?this is a genuine question
>>98766387>TQidk if he counts cause legends but I have a soft spot for aetaos'rau'keres, the first titanic unit I ever bought
>>98766988>Why didn't marine players do the same when primaris?The answer is that the 40k playerbase is cucked. The entire community is cucked. >"play older editions!"yeah, lots of people advocated that, but nobody actually did it. how many people have you seen in your LGS playing 4th, 3rd, hell, even 2nd edition? probably zero. new thing shiny, new thing good, old thing bad. that is the law of this game's playerbase>well we'll just play other wargames! we're boycotting 40k!that has never worked because a few players "leave" for...about a week? sometimes two? and then they come back to 40k. because they're cucked.>well, I will individually leave 40k, it's not even a boycott, I like other games more!and how many games has that netted you? and if it does still net you games of these "other wargames," will you actually stop the pigs from eating their slop? no. it's all pointless, you see, until the cuck problem is overcome, which it won't be. because you're cucks.
>>98766988>Why didn't marine players do the same when primaris?because primaris area good thing actually
>>98767005why u here? cuck too?
>>98766999I go to warhammer world pretty often and last time I was there the chud marine was still standing
My cowboy hats finally arrived!!!!!! Time to start working on some cowboy Orks.
>>98766720Cool elves.
>>98767014>cowboy orks>not admech, who have the most cowboy aesthetic and potential
>>98767005>>"play older editions!">yeah, lots of people advocated that, but nobody actually did it. Why are oldhammer faggots like that though. "We're gonna make (x edition) mainstream! You're gonna be able to play it in a regular LGS just as easily as playing current 40k!" And then nothing happens. Is it just performative?
>>98767013Yes yes, anon. The chudlet marine will forever stand in our hearts...
>>98767032in our hearts, and next to the rhino in nottingham
>>98767031it is entirely performative, yes
>>98766720>That means for this month anything using a ranged weapon that glows is fair gameI have no plasma duded to paintWould /40kg/ accept a power sword model with an energy field effect?
>>98766387Purple n yellow is a nice color scheme
ethereals should let the entire tau army reroll battleshock and leadership teststhis is fair and balanced
does every faction have a titanic option? on their own, not with knight alliesI'm assuming no but I can't be bothered to check
>>98767050If you include detachment allies. Genestealers don't have their own, but can ally the Tyranid Hierophant/Harridan or the Guard Baneblade variants.
>>98767050None for GSC without alliesDE have never had one, even with Forgeworld or allies
>>98766933Neither, fuck off!
>>98767050Also Chaos Daemons, Dark Eldar, and Emperor's Children don't have their own titanic units.
>>98767018>admech>cowboy aesthetic man, I forgot about that. they really fucked up their designs, didn’t they?
Ri'Locai & Ri'Lantar<=<=
>>98767050sisters, custodes, admech, agents, death guard, emperors children, thousand sons, dark eldar, gene stealers and votann do not have titanic options,
>>98767050Also Admech and Sisters
>>98766720>dude with the AoBR captain got ingood for him. its nicely painted.
>>98767072Death Guard and Thousand Sons have legends titanic units
Point changes since yesterday for Marines
>>98766720Fuck me the captain's banner should have said Ignacio not Ignatio. I'm such a Spanishlet, the mistake will forever be etched in history.
>>98767066I never cared for the twin lance but if they're set up for some incense memes I can get down with that
You have been assigned to be the co-pilot of this guy.What's your reaction?
>>98767086>incense memesYou're thinking of the ethereals
>>98767090anon you know that's not what I meant
>>98767080>+75% downuh bros I thought these stat changes where going to make things more expensive and mean less marines present on the battlefield I'm not feeling too good about this one!
>>98767090if all these limited edition models were special characters with a page of fluff and legend rules people would care about them way more
>>98767098>and legend rulesyou lost me
>>98767086>>98767093T'au are reproduced via cloning and test-tube babies. They are then raised inside institutions. So the concept of blood family is an alien one for them.
>>98767098I'm fine with alternative models for existing units, I just hate the FOMO aspect of them.
>>98767014What is Kelermorph, I wish it had better rules to justify fielding one.
>>98767106A desperado to admech's cowboys. He should have a sombrero.
I like orks :D
>>98767100>T'au incest is possible but meaninglessfuck
>>98767098how about the ethereal NOT BEING A PILE OF SHIT RULESWISE
>>98767113ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKSWAAAAGH
>>98767076They do? What are they?
>>98767125falchion fellblade and mastadon
Anyone have good alternative/fan edition rulesets for 40k?
>close to finishing my army>tired of being a marine painter, army should last me at least 3 years without needing any major changes but you know how GW is>sitting on newrecruit, making and remaking lists trying to find "the spark"My pain is constant and sharpWhat's a better idea?>Eldar I like nearly all the craftworld models, but the problem is I like ALL of them and my list ends up being very generalist and as a kinda bad player I'm liable to get blown off the board>VotannI love dwarves and it's an opportunity to play with greenstuff because they need more beards and mohawks but the range is very incomplete and I'm afraid squats might get re-squatted>AdMechI love AdMech conceptually but I hate the flappy bird wings and tela tubby robots. I would do a spam list of mostly skitarii and walkers (with a dunecrawler and transport thrown in) because those models are sexy as fuck, but buying a lot of walkers is gonna get expensive
>>98766514Needs a stone wall behind it to match size for line of sight
>>98767099I'm not going to suggest giving them actual rules because even in my wildest dreams I'd not except gw to have those in the codex without having the models available for purchase which they should anyway, the idea of a fomo model is fucking bullshit
>>98767139>your only issue with eldar is that they seem like too much of a good thingbased purely on your own words anon it really seems like you should go eldar
>>98767139What the hell are you talking about? GW has made it quite clear that this is the Marine Edition. Either play marines or have a bad, bad time. Don't like it? Go play battletech or historicals or something, faggot.
3 man bike squad (80pts) vs 3 man bike squad (75 pts)legitimately why would you ever take the one on the right
>>98767141
>>98767156the one on the right is faster, has better ranged options and can do mortal wounds
>>98767153Marines will be powercrept in 6 months and we will all laugh about how impotent they become over the course of the edition.
>>98767153You're not very smart, are you?
>>98767080https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/vzqu6tzw/warhammer-40000-balance-update-chaos-the-imperium-and-xenos-fight-back/>There will also typically be fewer Space Marines on the battlefield>This also means that although Space Marines are tougher to kill now, there will be fewer of them on the battlefield.lol the fact they even had to make the article is sad in of itself, but them just making bald faced lies in it is so bad.I wonder how the secondhand market will look for non-marines now?
For every one anon that complains about the tone of the "balance update" article and the direction the game is headed towards, there will always be ten LGS regulars who will sperg out if you suggest that Current Edition 40k is anything except a perfectly balanced, perfectly written, perfectly perfect game (until the next edition, then they will start complaining about how last edition was "Shit the Whole Time, I Swear!").>We have a customer base that devours everything we do
>>98766429surround her in the magical effects of the slaanesh endless spells
>>98767134use OPR, but units are forced to shoot the closest enemy unit unless they pass a skill test
Custdoes art article>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/pbev2srg/the-art-of-warhammer-terra-and-the-custodes/
>>98767080>toughness goes up 1>lose 10 points>SOT toughness goes up 1>gain 65 points
>>98767165>the one on the right is fasterNot even. Outriders have access to advance + charge and the ability to auto advance 6>has better ranged optionslol no>mortal woundsa whooping 1.5 on average. wowzersTotally worthy the tradeoff of losing 2 extra T, having half of the wounds and worse save.
>>98767203>SoT get wounded on 6's by the vast majority of weapons in the game (everything S5 or below, including things that used to be terminator killers)i think they'll be fine
>>98767204>lol noin the very screenshot you posted I can see the deldar have better guns, I can also see that they can auto advance 8 opposed to outriders 6you are clearly full of shit
>>98767211>deldar have better gunsNot my fault you're a blind retard who can't do basic math.
>>98767173>devours everything we do>image has age of smegmar Devour everything except the Dominion box KWAB
>>98767214strength 14 ap -4 is better than strength 8 ap -2 anon
>>98767166And then we will repeat this whole merry-go-round in 3 years, and then 3 years after that. And then 3 years after that. And then 3 years after that. And then 3 years after that. And then 3 years after that. And then 3 years after that. And then 3 years after that. And then 3 years after that. And then 3 years after that. And then 3 years after that...and then...
>>98767156Outrider Squads' amazing against me, they just do so much vs. GSC for only 80pts.
>>98767211>Better gunsinto a t11 3+ body a heat lance deals on average 1.56 damage12 twinlinked bolter shots deals 1.58 damage on average and is far more consistentthe bolters are actually better into nearly every target in the game, including tanks.
>>98767218Yes, now look at the rest of the numbers.If you think reavers have better shooting you're unironically brain damaged.
>>98767224>no anon you have to look at the guns that dont matter, if you only focus on those the marines are clearly better! boltguns literally do not matter, they're chaff
>>98766728based game haver, I wish more people posted their tables
>>98766928Marines players will always say they’re bottom tier because in the tournament W/L records they have the advantage of so many newbies dragging their rates down. Last edition someone removed the bottom 25% ELO from each faction and marines were consistently near or above 50%.
>EC can’t reinforce their terminators Guess that means they might be getting a refresh this edition?
>>98767156This is the main issue with the new marines. Their skirmishing units in ~80-100 pts range are like 10 times more efficient per point than xenos stuff in general. They can put 5 random idiots on the center and you need to expose you actual valuable unit to deal with them. Shit like Striking Scorpions does literally nothing into them now.
>>98766452You know that 40k players will kill you if you propose playing anything that isn't Current Edition with Current Rules, right? It's a cult.
>>98767244Why are you here?
>>98767239No that’s just a carry over from 10th because GW had a weird hate boner for EC with that book.
>>98767239lollmao
>>98767246the game is complete and utter dogshit, indefensibly badthe models are pretty good though and fun to paint :D
>>98766429Just buy a Forgefiend kit and follow the maulerfiend directions.
>>98767263It’s boring though.
>>98767263>conversions are...le bad!
>>98766452my biggest quesiton would be what core design elements would you have stay? Alternating is the current highwave which ofc has its own downsides (activation tracking being an example), starting player initiative to feel "fair" etc. and I am still partial to it over 2k blob of I go You go.Then are the dice - d6 is pretty classic but then you have shit like str/toughness spread getting wacko.What I think should return is Armor Values in some form - just cuz you can reroll forever to fish enough 5/6s in 100 attacks doesn't mean that my supposedly hyper armored vehicle gets cut like warm butter, bring actual AV weaponsRemoval of +1/-1 to hit/wound - no more double dipping, especially for wounds which adds up to the above.
>>98767266Then get a mutalith vortex beast and paint it gay or have someone print a weird sexy spawn.
>>98767272>badWho said that?
>>98767281this guy did >>98767263
>>98766452I'd want 2nd edition, straight up, just with support for all models introduced after 2nd edition/currently sold by GW that didn't have rules in 2nd.
>>98767283Where?
>>98767286when he saw someone attempting to do a conversion and told him to not do that, he was implying that conversion is badI know you failed english in school but it's not that hard to read into these lines
>>98766720>two emperor’s championsHuh
>>98767286>>98767281This guy doesn't own any models btw
>>98767278To think they actually put that in the game in the end. https://youtube.com/shorts/hNHVNNBxU-8
>>98767238bottom half, not bottom tier. if you learn to read you'll get less mad about stuff.
>>98767290He told someone to buy the original kit. Anything after that is the schzoid ramblings of a balding obese freak.>>98767296But enough about you.
>>98766928Yeah. Just have to deal with it I guess. The penalty for being the most flexible and well developed army is that everyone bitches about you getting the attention. Nothing to be done but play the world’s tiniest violin when your rules are actually even slightly good and the npcs start complaining.
>>98767302>He told someone to buy the original kitinstead of doing a conversion* hence, he believes conversion is a bad thingI'm telling you anon its not schizo to connect these very simple dots
>>98767299That thing is hot, I want to fuck it
>>98767240No one is seriously having trouble killing 5 marines, are they? You're seriously arguing that you have to expose valuable units to deal with that?
>>98767312You don't know anything about what he thinks or believes about conversions. Again, the ramblings of a schizoid balding freak.
>>98767233The general is like 60% very vocal tourists who don't play games and don't hobby. Then there's about 30% currently hobbying at a state they can't play games and 10% in a position they can field an army and play.>>98767302>schzoidThis is how you know a bitch nigger doesn't own jack shit. What's your faction btw, post list?
>>98767320>You don't know anything about what he thinks or believes about conversionshe said so himself with his own words, I don't need to know him he literally said it
>>98767323>buy the maulerfiend>SEE HE SAID IT, HE LITERALLY SAID CONVERSIONS LE BADStupid fuck.
>>98767327Yes, exactlyhim saying to buy the model instead of converting it is him saying conversions are bad, you get it now?
Anyone have any happy accidents or good saves regarding their painting/modeling lately?> Fucked up an oil wash on my banshees, in the end the color and consistency I went with doesn't quite look as good as I thought it would> Models already sat for a couple days before I could do anything about it so the oil is set> Pretty much resigned myself to stripping the models again> Fuck it, let's try something else> Mixing up another oil wash, this time it's just my base coat color> Wash everything, turns out titanium white stains a rust brown color really well and actually made the first wash look much betterNice. Made them look a little Blanchitsu but that's ok.
>>98767321You are like those guys who say rape is bad and then turn out to be sex pests with a dozen victims in their past. You own nothing, you play nothing and when you are not trying to call out your betters you try to get through your backlog of loretube videos.
>>98767278>>98767299>>98767318It's basically a xenomorph with boobs and pain engine head.
>>98767330Yes exactly he said buy a maulerfiend and thats all he said, thank you!
>>98767342yes but have you considered WHY he said to buy a maulerfiend?I know this takes 2 braincells and you're clearly lacking, but there is only one right answer its pretty easy
>>98767337You had one chance to answer the question and redeem yourself and ya blew it
>>98767319Yes.
>>98767343>ITS MY NARRATIVE OR YOU ARE DUMBYou are like a child who thinks they know anything but in reality know nothing.
>>98767350anon can you draw a line between these two dots for me?
>>98767354>my answer is the only realityKeep going, kiddo!
>>98767354
>>98767355what other possible reality could there be?
>>98767359Wow, now who is the one who needs to think?
>>98767359I reject your reality and substitute my ownnot that anon, just wanted to say the quote UwU
>>98767362I'm telling you 2+2 is 4, but if you really think there's another answer I beg you to enlighten me
>>98767286You know what you did.
So are space marines more elite now? Like will there be noticeably fewer marines on tables like they said their would be?
>>98767370>So are space marines more elite now?Yes>Like will there be noticeably fewer marines on tables like they said their would be?No!
>>98767370Like 5 less guys maybe.
>>98767370Nah some guys at my LGS were going on about how their list barely went up in points, like 65 points at the most.
>>98767370noThey're going to be strong for a while, then the other armies will get their codex and balance patches that creep their own power or their own numbers, and we'll back to square one because everyone and their mother will kill marine just as fast as before, exactly as it happened all other times gw has tried to make marines tougher.
>>98767364Anon said 4 and you're saying the only answer is 2+2=4 and I'm saying he didn't say that and the answer can be 1+3=4 or 2+1+1=4 or 1+1+1+1=4
>knock off work>go to browse 40K news on my fave forum>a bunch of secondaries/tertiaries just carrying on about sweet fuck allWhat is it with you fucks, of all the threads on 4chan to shitpost in why a general? Fuck off
>>98767380anon did not say 4, anon said there is no possible way to know the answeralso those other you suggest are not possibilities, 2+2 is the question it is not a possibility. 4 is the only possibility.
>>98767378According to GW, other armies can just take massive hordes and they're going to get the points reduced for it or some shit.
slapping on base coloration for tau battlesuit plating is crazy fun wtf
>>98767370Not noticeably. There’s like, a squad or two less guys depending on how many characters they were already running.
>>98767389My guard list hasn't dropped in points yet... Codex doko?
>>98767370This is a comp list (5-0 LGT) pre-patchGravis Captain with Armour of AntoniusCalgar + 10 THSS Terminators5 THSS TerminatorsTechmarine5 Intercessors5 JPI5 IncursorsLand Speeder2 RepExes2x5 ScoutsStorm Speeder HammerstrikeIf you remove the Intercessors, this list is legal again. So I'd say even hyperelite Terminator lists with lots of heavy tanks only lost 1 activation. So AT MOST expect to see 1 fewer squad in return for all of the buffs.
>>98767389>can we increase the points on marines to go along with their new durability?>no, let's reduce the points on everything else instead!
>>98767385why don't you post some of your models then, fatass
>>98767406>>no, let's reduce the points on everything else instead!they didn't even do that
Imagine every single 11th edition player getting tortured to death, slowly. Imagine the screams. Imagine the sounds of gunshots at the NOVA Open, people screaming and running as 2nd edition chuds begin to open fire and kill everyone present. Imagine those two chucklefuck GW livestream hosts being tortured on stream by 2nd edition chuds, forced to read out loud messages about ending 11th edition. Imagine Rountree's corpse swinging.
>>98767406According to them even dark eldar are now a horde army lol.>>98767400You guys got a raw deal.
>>98767370They play 1 unit less, yes.
>>987674122nd edish has no daemon engines and that makes it gay and niggerly
>>98767414anything less elite than marines is a horde army in my books, spamming witches probably counts as a horde
>>98767414>According to them even dark eldar are now a horde army lol.Your baseline troops are T3 with 4+ or 5+ saves. Did you think they were an elite army?
>>98767424They're supposed to be elite glass cannons.
>>98767424Have you ever seen a horde of dark eldar infantry on the field? They pretty much all come on transports, factor that into their cost.
>>98766550Worst: guard.Best: no idea, orks and tsons got neutered. Probably some marine chapter.
>>98767433Yes.
>>98766648You reinforce your breakthroughs to keep momentum and don't waste resources where you struggle
>>98767437Funny guy.
It doesn't matter if every single one of your models gets wiped off the table by your marine superiors, as long as you got enough good boy points it means you still win, you see!
>>98767446I mean, a win is a win yeah
For Halloween theme this looks like an easy tutorial to follow, I got Milliput instead of Green Stuff but should be doable just the same I assume.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6F6pWjJuQAI'll either paint an aberrant with the head, or make an atalan jackal like some ghost rider shit.>>98767446I won a crusade game by killing exactly 0 units and losing all but two units. It's doable but why.
>>98767446We got a blast haver here!
Here's your waifus, Eldar fans.
it is the job of non-marine players to lose to marine players and be grateful for the privilege
>>98767456sex
>>98767456would
>>98767456They have no curves, who would find this attracitve
>>98767457Someone should post that image about rats knowing fair play.
>>98767456Sex
>>98767462You wouldn't have survived the 90's/00's, zoomzoom
>armageddon box is now $230 AmericanI almost want to buy, but I'm tired boss
>>98767462a black man made this post
>>98767478split it with an ork player that's $115 for the marine half
>>98767446>>98767457>I'm not having fun unless I'm winning!Grow up, guys.
>>98767486It’s less that and more “I want to be able to win in a friendly without sweating”.
do I buy armageddon if I only want the vanvets, the captain, chaplain and librarian?
>>98767486I hate tryhard scrubuloids
>>98767486Seems like you missed the point
How many people are going to buy the Armageddon box to cut off the flames and use the Legion of the Damned models as regular space marines
>>98767370My list went up 150 but I've not really changed anything, can just drop some redundant characters. Yesterday's points were about 200, which felt closer to right. You can easily build a list that didn't go up much at all if you avoid terminators and use more vehicles and characters.The guys who write the warhammer community articles aren't on the rules team or itk ahead of time, you should never trust what they say.
>>98767503I'm buying it for the orks and wrecked dorn terrain and seeing if any of my marine buddies want the LotD
>>98767496>do I buy the $250 box for $180 in unitsActually that's a pretty good deal. You can probably pawn off the ork half to make back most of your money.
>>98767446Yeah! This is why 40k is a TRVE WARGAME that SIMULATES REAL WARFARE IN THE 41ST MILLENNIUM! Just like in real life, conflicts are determined by how many goypoints you score by gyrating in a Special Goyim Zone for as long as possible, just like Call of Duty! Way better than those shitty "historical" games where the winner is determined by "scenario objectives" and "retreats" and shit.
>pict capture of members of the elysian 3rd drop company, before being deployed as part of operation comet during the taros campaign (998.M41)
>>98767511I was thinking that, but I'm pretty sure ork players are tired of marine players trying to get them to buy half the box by now, right?
>>98767515There was always a meta chaser looking for cheap Orks before their nerf yesterday.
>>98767513Is the High Lord there to monitor the unearthing of a rumored pre-Imperial human burial site in the hopes of recovering STCs?
>>98767456Honestly the designs feel a bit lazy. Like, they are fine for the most part, but some of details feel off.It just looks like they took the base male eldar model and added breasts to it.They could've at least widened the hips a bit more and maybe give a bit more bust.Also is it just me but do their shins and arms feel a bit short for some reason?If it was me I'd make their arms like 1 palm longer and then extend the shins specifically by the same amount.
>>98767424Talos/Cronos used to be Toughness 7, which was as tough as a Great Unclean One and tougher than every Nid bioformDark Lances use to just flat out ignore higher tiers of armourDrazhar and Malys used to have Weapon Skill 7 which was beyond Chapter Masters and Drazhar could literally dark souls parry + riposte units in close combatLelith used to be so high WS than basic marines couldn't hit her outside of a 6 and the literally most elite a marine could get (Kaldor Draigo during PEAK Grey Knight Wankery 5th edition) had WS7 and hit Lelith on a 5.IDK what that is if not elite
>>98767530>It just looks like they took the base male eldar model and added breasts to it.anon, that is literally the only difference between male and female elves/eldar
new box is here!!what do I make first?
>>98767539I always start with the smallest models and work up to the big onesmarines first, then obliterators, then rhino/spider, then the lord disco
>>98767512I need someone to make an animation where marines are shredding hundreds of tyranids and taking zero casualties, killing their biggest units etc, but end up panicking and retreating because the last depleted units of termagants and a few warriors are t-bagging the ground in a few random ruins within 100 meters of each other, thus scoring enough Victory Points to squeeze out a win
>>98767539KEK I never even noticed the chaos rhino in the cornerthis is just a box of random bullshit
>>98767478Isn’t this the cuck gacha
>>98767539which legion/warband you doing?
>>98767539Rhino is by far the easiest/fastest so start with that
>>98767539mind if I ask which legion or warband you plan to paint them up as?
>>98767446the game is going into a 'scoring points on objectives' rather than 'kill the bad guys' direction.
>>98767457>it is the job of non-marine players to lose to marine players and be grateful for the privilegeYou faggots are so pathetic. None of you cared about the ork Codex, which is still busted, and way more so than the new marines book.Don't hurt yourself. It's not worth it, anon.
>>98767551there is literally the same box but with cultists instead
>>98767546Just have a loud buzzer sound with "YOU LOSE" and it's just a tyranid on its side with its claw sticking into the magic objective circle.
>>98767555>>98767558WB
>>98767532They had to get rid of I, WS comparison, and AP ignoring armor to make marine players feel better.
>>98767484But anon, I AM the ork player and nobody wants the marines.
>>98766720Ugh.....ughhhh...UGHHHHH.....SOVL
>>98767564nice choice of legion, I almost went WB myselfI'm really surprised how good nemesis claw looks in red/silver.
>>98767568I want the marines
>>98767564unfathomably based
>>98767564Hell yeah Wordaboo.
>>98767535No, it really isn't.>but le modern artModern GW is cucked beyond belief dude.They made Lelith look like a fucking 80 year old crackhead crone somehow. Even though even dark eldar are described to be eerily beautiful.I don't respect "creators" or their fucking "vision" when they do dumbshit like this and can't get basic fucking facts right.
>>98767567the only one I really miss here is initiative is it so much to ask that faster boys swing first? fights first does not make up for it being gone
>>98767563the hive fleets in orbit are destroyed, the hive tyrant is dead, thousands of tyranids are dead, guardsmen are cheering as Captain Chad of the Mogmarines declares victory over the Tyranid scourge, only for a random marine to notice a barely-alive ripper limp-crawl into a magic circle defined by a random pile of rubble and scream "NOOOO"Then the planet blows up
>>98767552Nah, just mind breaking
>>98767100>T'au are reproduced via cloning and test-tube babiesThey factually aren't you mongoloid, cloning is still in its experimental phase after two centuries of tinkering with the process and what rare few clones they produce are a state secretthey use primitive XX century style eugenics where you're told who to fuck and who not to fuck>So the concept of blood family is an alien one for themIt's a taboo concept, not an alien one.
>>98767564A fine choice.
>>98767456why couldn't they make the femdar stacked like their tabletop models?
>>98767581>Mission failed, we'll get 'em next time.
>>98767588does this mean taucest is back on the menu or not?
>>98767571Let’s not exaggerate now
>>98767116No it's extra-taboo if anythingYou aren't supposed to give blood ties any special meaning, and you aren't supposed to fuck whoever you want.So caring about your twin so much you want to fuck them is extra-verboten
>>98767588>the tranny anime image
>>98767599as opposed to real life, where incest is cool and fine
>>98767595Only if it'll produce a genetically ideal candidate (so no). More likely you'll just have a pair of tau twins paired with the same male candidate if they want to maximize his genes.I'd throw you a bone on a way to make it work within the fluff but since you're being a massive faggot and begging for other people to do the legwork for you I won't.
>>98767602wrong animethat's the anime where the author of the original manga spent all his time drawing blacked porn
>>98767602Is Tranny just a word for “I don’t like i these days? Or was there a sudden switch up on GitS in the past decade.
>>98767607what legwork nigger? I'm just asking questions, is that not allowed?
>>98767612The only people I've seen who post images and gifs for nu Ghost in the Shell are trannies, anon. It is therefore a tranny anime.
>>98767604Are you retarded?I said EXTRA-verboten, thereby implicitly communicating the fact that incest is verboten in our society.Do you understand the concept of addition or do you routinely get confused when 1+1 doesn't equal 0 ?
>>98767596UGHHHHHHHHHHH SOVL OVERDOSE I pkayed during 3rd and 4th so this one hits very hard. Mines probably the shittest one in the collage though
We don't use that word here.
>>98767613If you really want tau "incense" then learn the lore yourself and make it work. In-setting porn is like homebrewing: use the limitations as inspiration and know where to bend the rules and where not to, don't just ignore them entirely or ignorantly bleat your fetishes into the void like some sort of gawping retard.
>>98767604>can't handle incestwhat are you a conservative from the 1940s that can't handle sex positive modernity
>>98767579Alternating gives players more decisions to make. It's objectively more fun.
>>98767625I'm not some kinda fan fiction writer, I'm literally just curiousI'm not making anything, again im just asking questions
>>98767612it's /v/irgins trying to astroturf some kind of console war between various iterations of GitS>>98767619Wrong, they're actually black men. You can tell they're black because their IRL appearance is being beamed into your frontal cortex by God. If you think they're trannies it's because Satan is hijacking the process.
>>98767629>sex positive modernityaren't 7 men being led to the gallows because a foid retroactively decided having a train run on her was gross (after consenting)?
>>98767641keep it on /pol/ buddy
>>98767633>I'm not some kinda fan fiction writerYeah, because you're too lazy to be one. Instead you're trying to get /40kg/ to workshop your porn fic for you.
>>98767562consider that one is also the same price is fucking awfullike unless you somehow dont have a single cultist then surebut then you are trading havoc and rhino for 2 squad of cultists still GW releasing the same fucking holiday boxes I wonder if OB/Venomclawer are getting replaces?I mean raptors were always pain in the ass to get then dreadtalon came out with 10 raptorsand then they release new updated after
>>98767644>Instead you're trying to get /40kg/ to workshop your porn fic for you.no? how the fuck is that a thing?
>>98767650>no?To answer your question, yes, this is indeed what you are doing.>how the fuck is that a thing?Because of you, that's how.
>>98767650>no? I'm sure your intentions for begging /40kg/ to explain to you the canonicity of tau incest is TOTALLY pure.>how the fuck is that a thing?You tell me, faggotrocitus.
>>98767673>I'm sure your intentions for begging /40kg/ to explain to you the canonicity of tau incest is TOTALLY pure.I just wanna make incest memes about the twin lance, if I wanted porn i could care less about how canon it is
Are there chaos inquisitors?
Castellan WIP, unfortunately I rushed the diamond pattern and it came out poorly. Oh well. Now to already a gloss vanish on the armor plates (not pictured) to do panel lining and apply decals
>>98767680They'd just be chaos cultists but there are probably some traitors who think they can wield or use chaos, the fools, they can't comprehend that chaos is what's using them
>>98767680yes, some inquisitors are loyal to Chaos.Fabius Bile used one to launch the Cursed Foundation as a smokescreen to clone some primarchsnext question
>>98767682It looks great and the diamond pattern came out looking very nice, good work Knightchad.
I've noticed that people who don't play 40k in favor of other wargames, especially games not made by GW, frequently voice opinions bordering on "we want to mass murder 40k players." Why do they hate us?
>>98767678>I just wanna make incest memes about the twin lanceNo, you want OTHERS to make incest "memes" ("the punchline is SEGGS ECKS DEEEEEEE" isn't funny) for you. You so dopamine fried and have such a nonexistent attention span you can't even make it work on your own.
>>98767682>undrilled barrels>gaps on the gunsyikes
>>98767680>are there hereticsMmm, no. No, I don't think so. Everyone in the Imperium is 100$ loyal to the Emperor and no one has ever betrayed it in the history of the entire setting.
>>9876770340k is the wargames black hole that swallows up all the fanbase of wargames for a mid-tier gamegetting a 40k player to try another game is nigh impossible so they remain stuck in the event horizon of shittiness
>>98767719NTA but how do you fix gaps on guns?
>>98767703Last week a 40K player picked up and moved my box of models and the terrain I had started to lay out on a table while I was grabbing a water from the LGS so it’s eternal jihad against them now.
>>98767727Getting a 40k LGS to try anything other than 40k including other GW games is fucking impossible. My entire LGS is just hyper-competitive 40k and it's miserable.
>>98767727>>98767730This is the 40k general. Why are you two talking as if you don't play 40k?
>>98767703They are 40K players in denial.And, because they are 40K players, they want to mass murder 40K players. No surprises here.
>>98767729He can’t tell you because he doesn’t have any models
>>98767703Because you (yes YOU, personally) are responsible for the whole scene being terrible.
>>9876770340k killed their fathers and raped their mothers.
>>98767731Does your LGS have a basement or attic? If you buy a cheap humidifier, fill it up with gasoline and set up an igniting agent and a timed/remote detonator in that basement or attic, you can blow up the entire building during peak hours.
>>98767732Cause it’s funnier that way
>LGS is doing a "try the new paints" thing>I don't think any of the new paints work for my army colorswell fuck me then
>>98767735>>98767719Absolutely btfo
Does armageddon not come with the terrain footprint things?
>>98767730What game were you trying to play instead of 40k, and why would you play a game that isn't 40k?
>>98767747there's a 90% chance your army colors are purple because the only people who take pride in "their" army colors are snowflakes who pick terrible colors as a deliberate display of snowflakehood.Usually it's purple because purple is thematically jarring for most factions, which is why it rarely gets used in official paintjob, which in turn prompts snowflakes to pick it.
>>98767760No I mean they don't have the right blues and red and stuff.I don't think the new range covers the entire old range of colors but I could be wrong. My base color is NL blue with Kantor blue dry brushed over and I don't know if the new blues match either of those
>>98767727This, a lot of people hate 40k because they believe that 40k is the primary factor not allowing them to get in more games of their preferred wargame, and 40k isn't even remotely good ruleswise and hasn't been for decades. So it builds up a lot of resentment in other wargaming fanbases, particularly for wargames that are scifi/fantasy since historicals have their own niche that isn't really as affected by 40k's popularity compared to scifi/fantasy stuff
>>98767729>use tamiya extra thin or similar plastic cement, squeeze the parts together when gluing them, that should instantly make the gaps smaller>and/or use a liquid putty/something like thinned down milliput to fill at least the most egregious and visible gaps>sand after putty/milliput curesliteral basic bitch hobby knowledge>>98767735>>98767748I'm sorry you're a hobbylet, no need to take it out on me, knightfag
>>98767729The best way to deal with gaps is seam welding during assembly (put the pieces close together and put excess cement in and press the pieces together tight for little while so the cement squeezes out the top and then sand it down a while later after it's set, but also be careful not to put too much and let it get everywhere and damage detail). But also some GW kits, particularly vehicles, have such bad gaps and bad parts fit you have no choice but to putty them.
>>98767139do admech like a true chad. you will come around to be indifferent about the da vinci wings
>>98767767
>>98767760What an utterly bizarre thing to bring up and seethe about out of nowhere.
Yellow doesn't work on marines, it's a color that conveys joy, youth and whimsy. (also the color of porn in modern-day China)The only reason why Imperial Fists are popular is because they visibly aren't Ultramarines (despite effectively being Ultramarines)The only reason why Lamenters are popular is because they visibly aren't Blood Angels (despite effectively being Blood Angels)Hipsters like that, even if it means they have to put up with 2000s Boner Comedy colors on their space men
>>98767775>screenshotnot only a hobbylet but also a newfaglollmao
>>98767781What about the best chapter?
Why is he being mean to me
>>98767794they're popular because they're openly evilif we were still going by Rogue Trader fluff for marines, nobody would care
>>98767804Because you've fully painted almost 3 knights and he has never painted anything
>>98767760this is 100% you seething about one poster in particular who paints purple.
>>98767804Its one of the anons who enjoys taking it out on other posters from time to time, just ignore it until he posts models
>>98767820>projection>meme saved from redditkek, he's seething
GW hates its players, loved paypigs
>>98767766Have you considered that 40k is the most popular and easiest wargame to find games for because it has the best rules and that you're just being a contrarian?
>>98767806I do love that they’re the only truly honest space marines and they’re hated by their brothers because they see themselves in them but cope about being different.
What time is the silly preview FAQ supposed to be?
>98767834>it has the best rulesGotta try harder than that. Not even worth a (you)
>>98767832This is just sad anon, move on.
>>987678392/14:00 EST.
Why are primaris so hated?
>>98767847I guess that's true, posting the same poorly built knights every thread is pretty sad.
>>98767741I don't think that'll solve my problem.
>>98767781>Imperial Fists are popularare they though
>>98767854He’s posting his wip you ugly pig
>>98767857>it was mutant all alongnot even surprising at this point lmao
>>98767853old men on the internet live to be mad at anything less than 15 years old
>>98767856There were a ton of “I always loved fists!”people in Heresy 2.0 when their RoW got revealed but that’s most IF players I’ve ever seen. So no, I don’t think they are.
i think primaris look better than the old marines, but i definitely agree that GW sucks for straight up replacing them in the actual game. couldnt they just have had the same datasheets?
>/pol/poster and mutant now fighting each otherWill you two go get a room and leave us alone already
>>98767862Unless it's a girl.>>98767853>>98767869>the beginnings of a primaris chimpout no. #3774085
>>98767839Codex Roadmap
>>98767853Because they showed marinefags all the way marines are bad once you lose the rose tinted glasses, and marinefags preferred to live in the delusion than see the light.
>>98767869No because Primaris are larger and therefore easier to see and attack and harder to hide so it wouldn’t be fair to Primaris chads to have to face a firstborn virgin.
>>98767853>Clearly intended to force marinefags to buy their armies again>Circlejerk lore about being betterer marines to justify the above>Subjective visual design changes (I personally think they're "fine," but I prefer MkVI aesthetics across the board)>Autists dislike change and 40k caters exclusively to autistic men so any change is met with disdain>Phobos marines look like they're wearing board shorts and Chuck Taylors because of the very thin shins
>>98767853The helmets don't look as angry anymore
>>98767897For some reason I love that thing way more than the 3 Primaris dreads. Cant even describe why.
>>98767911It’s very cool, I like in the same way I like looking at and using a utility knife.
>>98767897fuck I'm tempted to make a gunsligner ork army all wearing cowboy hats
>>98767855It's not about solving your problem. It's about sending GW a message.
>>98767911They remind me of the mech walkers from Avatar, which was one of the only cool things in that movie
My Kommando Nob. His name is Hidden Mickey
>>98766387How do units with different move values interact? I know how it used to be in older editions but for this one im honestly not sure. It doesnt say much about it in the rulebook. Mainly asking for Space Wolf Headtakers with the wolves attached to their unit.
>>98767923Got a chuckle / 10. Nicely done
>>98767923Fuck yes.
>>98767911It's because it succeeds at being something that's not a dreadnought while the others fail to be a dreadnought.
>>98767839I know exactly what will send the livestream hosts into a panic. Start spamming the livestream chat with:>"When are you bringing back 2nd edition?" >"When will you replace 11th edition's rules with 2nd's?" >"Is 2nd edition coming back?" >"Are you bringing back the artillery die?" >"How do I introduce 2nd edition to my local 40k community?" >"Will the lasplas razorback be making a return?" >"How can I expect Intercessors to look in the updated 2nd edition ruleset?">"How will the current Admech range be ported over to the 2nd edition ruleset when you bring it back?">"What will happen to HH when you bring back 2nd edition?"etc, etc. They will not know how to answer and will visibly panic on stream if they are flooded with 2nd edition questions.
>>98767922I was going to make a joke but then realized how old that movie is now and that you're right and that's exactly what inspired that design
>>98767229>>98767223
>>98767943You know all their questions are picked in advance, right?
>>98767911I genuinely like the Invictor suit, I just wish Phobos marines didn't look so weird to go alongside itPhobos could be saved by just reducing the frequency of the ridging on the black undersuit and thickening up the calves (and giving them beakies)I also really liked the old "leave my little brother alone" game rule, but that's goneEverything becoming "you can reroll hit/wound rolls" is so fucking boring
>>98767943 I just start spamming about Primarchs and when the next one is coming back, I think it drives them crazy.
>>98767954That's gay as fuck. Flood the chat anyway
>>98767612>Is Tranny just a word for “I don’t like i these days?Yes
>>98767943I think they already panic because of all the technical issues.
>>98767612well it was gay in the 2000, then fag in the 2010s and now it's tranny in the 2020s
>>98767853They don't look great, continued marines fall from psychotic warriors to heroic paladins, and changed the simple and effective marine doctrines into a bloated mess. To name a few.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/coumzkqv/only-in-death-40000-ways-to-die-new-animation/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egc2ciXSdmoWhat to read from this, many options
>>98767925Each model moves its movement value.
>>98767869Are people still assblasted over primaris?
>>98767955I like phobos. Making phobos look more like normal marines would be boring for a faction that already gets accused of all looking the same.
>>98767998Just this general, everyone else is an adult and moved on and are enjoying Primaris dominance.
>>98767897I kinda like the cowboy look
>>98767943the Q&A is prerecorded
>>98767987>Mk7 helmetThis guy is barely primaris. The time is coming.GW is afraid of Space King.
>>98767998While I have some gripes about the middle Primaris era kits (and new intercessors). The first batch and most of the latest have been solid.
>>98767041I don't think he'll mind. Just make it really glowy to compensate.
>>98767987This feels like GW saw Space King and thought they could do their own version of it
>>98768004I don't even mean to change muchJust like a 20-30%-ish diameter increase on the shins so it's less of a step between foot/knee and calves, and like a 15-25% decrease in frequency of the ridges on the suits. Just something to make the overall design have less "noise," which then makes the whole thing look less greebled.Most of the complaints about Phobos are that they look tacticool and overly greebled (or that the legs are too thin). Taking a slight step back on the severity of those two things would do a lot to fix that without abandoning the design entirely. They'd still be lighter and more greebled, the difference would just be lesser than it now between an Intercessor and an Infiltrator.I do think I'll start a Phobos heavy list though just to try out, I've talked myself into it over this conversation.
>>98767578>They made Lelith look like a fucking 80 year old crackhead croneAren't all Deldar 8,000 year old crackheads?
>>98767943>"When are we getting Warhammer 40k Classic?"
I wish beyond all things that tau had stopped at xv8sI want more skimtanks and dispersed gun crew teams all bundled in devilfish like a real army
models?
>>98768086Still convinced that HH will become something like that, at least for space marines
>>98767987>s-see? we didn't make space marines OP in the new edition! now buy our funko pops, CHUD
>>98768069There are very few Eldar that live that long. Their natural lifespan is only like a couple thousand and only the highest tiers of DEldar society can afford to keep enough sources of pain to juice them past 10000 years old. There's only like five named Eldar that old. Most of them are only a few centuries old.
>>98768060ymmv but I don't think the shins look that thin if you paint the leg armour as if it's two distinct layers (which it literally is). like half the poses do have that ugly GW bow-legged squat going on, though, made worse by not having the flat classic marine shinguard covering up. so they can end up looking like deformed eldar.my new list has 9 eliminators and at least 20 incursors, plus some characters. a lot of new phobos to paint.
>>98768116I remembered I have a bunch of NL bits I bought on a whim when I was a secondary a few years back.I planned to get into the model side of things but I never committed. Now that I'm actually doing the hobby I can actually use them.
>>98768142now you'll just need to come up with some lore about why your guy has 12 heads and 14 arms
>>98768148What a far-out crossover
>>98767897>force marinefagsNobody is putting a gun to your head to buy stuff you don't want.
>>98768148>>9876815640kids really do be desperate for crossing over with literally everything
People bitch about rules updates constantly. They constantly yearn for older rulesets. They bitch about the edition cycle. Yet they still buy into it. They still play what's current. And if you ask these people why they won't just play older editions with their local hobby group, you'll just get>"I can't, anon. I wouldn't have anyone to play with"This seems bizarre, because they already have a group of people they're playing with. Surely they can just tell them "I don't like the current edition, we should switch to this older one instead." But they don't. Because they know they'll be told "no." And then everyone goes back to bitching anyway. Is the playerbase just broken at this point? We just sit there and take it, and build this false prison for ourselves while GW fucks us in the ass over and over and over again. Is the entire playerbase composed of submissive bottoms?
>>98767987Some kid who gets into 40k because of this animation is going to come here and call you a fake grog with no models because you don't like this animation.
>>98768139>that ugly GW bow-legged squatYea that's fairThe worst offender IMO is the Lieutenant in the Heroes of the Chapter, he's doing this tactical split that puts it on display. Incursors and Infiltrators look weird to me too, but some of that is probably the GW paint scheme intentionally over-highlighting edges too.
>>98768182Are those fucking funko pops?
>>98767987They're turned that Ultramarine tactical sarge into a fucking pain tulpa for everyone who hates space marines. Poor lad.
>>98768116Sure here you go
>>98768146He decapitated and disarmed 10 one-armed dudes and 2 two-armed dudes.
>>98768182what's this from? I'd fuck with it
>>98768116model
>>98768069Most craftworlders don't live longer than a thousand years before dying of natural causes, a psyker can live 2-3 times as long as a normie eldar.Hypothetically the Deldar should be the same but nobody in Commoragh has ever died of natural causes.
>>98768195From the cartoon in >>98767987
>>98768189Yes, Primaris are the funko pops of 40k.
>>98767987ngl that was pretty fuckin' based
>>98768116Started painting cultists for my word bearers, first time I've ever pained black skin and its going horribly.
>>98768210Those are fucking funko pops!
>>98768146>>98768194Fuck I was just going to use them for my NL army but now I'm thinking of having them as trophies. Like my new night lords slaughtered an older warband and took their skulls as trophies or something.
KAIS ADVANCE THROUGH THE TRENCH AND CLEAR THE BURGERTOWNHONOR THE FIRE CASTE
>>98768182Oh my god, they’re gonna tap into the Space King audience and actually get them to buy models with this.
>>98768256All Space King fans are 40k primaries thoughbeit
>>98768258>All Space King fans are 40k primarieslmao no>thoughbeitshut the fuck up
>>98768194He was an interior decorator
>>98767987>What to read from thisGW is attempting to diversify their portfolio of animations and this is a proof of concept by one of their prospective partners, chosen for the low cost of the animation more than anything.Yes, space king was a factor because it proves that warhammer cartoons get visibility on youtube.No, GW isn't scared by space king, as far as they're concerned it's free indirect marketing for their IP.
>>98768192"I'm sure to win because of my superior speed" type faceIncredible models, you should do tutorials on the painting
>>98766661>>98766685Honestly I'm not a huge fan of OPG abilities either but I wanted to represent the idea of channeling psyker powers and/or embracing the red thirst and going berserk without being too OP
>>98766679The shimmershield is so beautiful here...
>>98768244I’m insanely bored at work, enjoy a shitty 3 minute photoshop.
The garbage bland and boring animations, christmas merchandise and normification of everything is torturous.I'm not a fanboy, but 40k was always special, so seeing it get raped more and more over the years until there's nothing special about it is not something I wanted.Going popular really is the worst fate for anything fun.
>>98768303lost my shit, bravo and thank youperfect <3
>>98768303kino
>>98768310I mean, you don't have to engage with that part of the franchise if you don't want to.
holy sovl
god bless kuju
>>98768332True, but since there is still some stuff I like and/or look forward to, I'm also exposed to everything else which sucks.It's like going to the mall for one specific store, but you have to pass in front of downright depressing shit you're supposed to believe people actually love and need to buy.
>>98766944Wait they nerfed the fuck out of angelic inheritors too What the hell is GW doing
>>98768262what do you need to write for it get filtered as thoughbeit? teebeetee?
>>98767003Is that a tau suit character?
>>98768148Reddit slop
>425 points for 10 man squad of SOC>more than deathshroud/blightlord which are objectively betterHas GW absolutely lost the fucking plot?
>>98768390Its big bird.
>>98768413>my favorite model GW ever created>it's discontinued and expensive as fuck on ebayit hurts
>>98766973>picture of skeleton patiently waiting in chair
>>98768410noFUCK tsons
>>98767278Except MVB are twice the size of Maulerfiends
>>98766973Holy shit that's so much better.I still can't understand how the official artist managed to fuck up Malys so badly in the original.
>>9876841020 Cadians cost 5 points less than a Ballistus Dreadnought. They don't do disparate comparisons very well.
>>98768436what? no, the pose is slightly different and the mutalith has that eyesore on the back but the main mass is very similar
the mvb is ugly as fuck and is more expensive than the maulerfiend why the fuck would you consider that to be a suitable fuckign proxy you ape? I should sodomize you with the mvbs tentacle head.
how many vehicles should I run to make warpforged cabal worth it? Right now I have the following vehicles in my army but I feel like I need more>chaos rhino>forgefiend>1x2 sekhetar robots (thinking of buying more to make either 1x4 or 2x2)>chaos vindicator>chaos predatorNot sure what's going to happen to the predator/vindicator so I'm reluctant to get more. I thought about getting a maulerfiend or 2nd forgefiend and even though I like the kit I'm a bit of a sperg about having lots of dupes of huge units like that. Sekhetars feels like the obvious choice by going ham with them they're kind of boring, like emplacements you slap on the central objectives. Maybe chaos just needs more vehicles.
>>98766973This is as delusional as the Taufags turning all their ugly ladies into anime babes
>>98768484Why does GW hate attractive women? GW is stuck in the 2010's, goon-core is what sells now- just look at Marvel Rivals.
>we have Space King at home
>>98768491sex scary, plus deranged weirdos will complain. all points to shareholder public company shenanigans
>>98768483Forgot to mention, I like the idea of helbrutes but they suck like heldrakes. If there were regular ass chaos dreadnoughts, or even some special sarcophagus dreadnought, I would run it in a heartbeat.
>>98768481>I should sodomize youI bet you would want that, gayboy, wouldn't you?
>>98768495Uh oh, GW gping to sue Space Kong
>>98768484total humiliation ritual for DE
>>98768481the mvb is great but i wish it wasn't stuck in that monopose basketball throwcenterpiece kits are regularly $100-150, there's no reason for them to have one fucking assembly option
>>98768498>shareholder public company shenanigansThe amount of money GW could make from the gen Z and alpha gooners is staggering desu. All they would have to do is make the female faces a bit hotter and toss in a bit of ass and cleavage. Some intern should make a PP presentation about how much money there is to be made.
>>98768381Okay well since AI is dead I'll probably find myself playing something like this ... (1995 points)Space MarinesBlood AngelsAssault Brethren, Encarmine Speartip and Wrath of the Doomed (3 Detachment Points)Purge the FoeStrike Force (2000 points)Attached UnitsAttached Unit 1Captain with Jump Pack (105 points)• Attached as: Leader (Character) • Warlord • 1x Relic Shield 1x Thunder Hammer • Enhancement: Shadow of AbominationSanguinary Guard (135 points)• Attached as: Bodyguard • 3x Sanguinary Guard • 2x Angelus Boltgun 3x Encarmine Weapon 1x Inferno PistolAttached Unit 2Librarian (75 points)• Attached as: Leader (Character) • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Force Weapon 1x SmiteLieutenant (50 points)• Attached as: Support (Character) • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Ceramite Fists 1x Master-crafted BolterAssault Intercessor Squad (180 points)• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline) • Enhancement: Furious Assault (Upgrade) • 9x Assault Intercessor • 9x Chainsword 9x Heavy Bolt Pistol • 1x Assault Intercessor Sergeant • 1x Chainsword 1x Heavy Bolt Pistol
>>98768484Yeah, I really don't get why Deldarfags think an army of sadistic alien crackheads would look at all attractive. This is as good as it gets.
>>98768484Why are you posting the edited artwork?
>>98768524>amount of money GW could make from the gen Z and alpha I remember hearing recently that a not insignificant amount of GW's income supposedly comes from kids "dropping into a store, buying a kit and paints, and playing with what they have", which is what GW has used for justification for being a one-stop shop for hobby supplies at all stages of the process, among other things like the pot lid to paint straight from the bottle. I'm pretty sure this is total bullshit because what fucking kid can walk into a store and buy a $50+ box and $20 in paint? Is stolen mommy's credit cards GW's main income source?
>>98768535>alienthey're only technically alien, they're practically elves, so they should be pretty because elves are prettythe only alien factions in practice are tyranids and tau
>>98768524Stock market go brrrrIt's not about the money, that's a myth. Money is just a means to an end. That's why they stick to the old way of the stock market and shareholders. It's about fitting into the system and then climbing to the top of it. Money is just the score in that system, or part of the score.
>>98768410I think you might be an idiot trying to claim Blightlords are better than SoT. Thousand Sons players deserved to have SoT raped anyway.
>>98767923just a reminder orks canonically love amusement parks.
>>98768531Attached Unit 3Lemartes (110 points)• Attached as: Leader (Character) • 1x Absolvor Bolt Pistol 1x The Blood CroziusDeath Company Marines with Jump Packs (270 points)• Attached as: Bodyguard • 10x Death Company Marines with Jump Packs • 4x Chainsword 2x Eviscerator 2x Hand Flamer 4x Heavy Bolt Pistol 2x Inferno Pistol 2x Plasma Pistol 2x Power Fist 2x Power Weapon • Enhancement: Furious Assault (Upgrade)Attached Unit 4Librarian in Terminator Armour (80 points)• Attached as: Leader (Character) • 1x Force Weapon 1x Smite 1x Storm BolterAncient in Terminator Armour (75 points)• Attached as: Support (Character) • 1x Master-crafted Power Weapon 1x Storm BolterTerminator Assault Squad (195 points)• Attached as: Bodyguard • 1x Terminator Sergeant • 1x Storm Shield 1x Thunder Hammer • 4x Terminator • 4x Storm Shield 4x Thunder HammerCHARACTERSTechmarine (55 points) • 1x Forge Bolter 1x Grav-pistol 1x Omnissian Power Axe and Servo-armBATTLELINEIntercessor Squad (85 points) • 4x Intercessor • 4x Bolt Pistol 4x Bolt Rifle 4x Knives and Fists • 1x Intercessor Sergeant • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Bolt Rifle 1x Knives and FistsOTHER DATASHEETSDeath Company Dreadnought (165 points) • 1x Blood Fist Bolt Rifles 1x Blood Fists 1x Twin Heavy Bolter 1x Twin Icarus Ironhail Heavy Stubber
>>98768550>I'm pretty sure this is total bullshit because what fucking kid can walk into a store and buy a $50+ box and $20 in paint? Is stolen mommy's credit cards GW's main income source?I know you were never given the opportunity to understand this, but in first world countries kids usually go to the store with their parents dipshit
>>98768550>'m pretty sure this is total bullshit because what fucking kid can walk into a store and buy a $50+ box and $20 in paint?nta but two of the regulars in the store are young kids (not older than 14) and one of the brats got a knight not too long ago, and wants a baneblade now. The parents are there and are just trying to slow the kid's purchases down and tie them to good grades & shit.
>>98768559Sanguinary Guard (135 points) • 3x Sanguinary Guard • 2x Angelus Boltgun 3x Encarmine Weapon 1x Inferno PistolSanguinary Guard (150 points) • 3x Sanguinary Guard • 2x Angelus Boltgun 3x Encarmine Weapon 1x Inferno PistolScout Squad (65 points) • 1x Scout Sergeant • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Boltgun 1x Combat Knife • 4x Scout • 4x Bolt Pistol 4x Boltgun 4x Combat KnifeScout Squad (65 points) • 1x Scout Sergeant • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Boltgun 1x Combat Knife • 4x Scout • 4x Bolt Pistol 4x Boltgun 4x Combat Knife
>>98768535Well they WERE attractiveAnd then a clear conscious choice was made to move their artwork more towards uglinessWhy?
has adeptus titanicus killed 40k yet?
>>98768564>one of the brats got a knight not too long ago, and wants a baneblade nowGrim.
>>98768550Sounds like WotC excuse about kitchen table magic, so it's probably bulshit
>>98766387>tqReaver Titan hands-down. The Heresy Pattern witth the round carapace and SKULL face.
just try basing with random rocks and sand in front of my houseare you suppose to paint your base first or glue your model on it first?
>>98768569grimdark setting tourist
>>98768590I always put the mini down on base and then put the mud and stones around it once its painted. I've seen people paint the bases first but as I'm a hobbylet I can't make the model stand even.
>>98768590doing the base seperately is easier but it'll most likely require you pinning the model to the base so it doesnt come offe.g this base was done seperately, and he's pinned to it as the superglue won't hold to basing material and pigment powder
>>98768590You can do it whichever way you want
>>98768590Depends how dedicated you are to the painting, since obviously choosing to paint it all first and them assemble fully means until you've done that you're not playing with the models
>>98768484>delusionalSo making the piece art actually look like the tabletop model is now being delusional?What's with the pathetic GW bootlicking?
so why is recon considered the best disposition again?
>>98767987this some Thundercats Roar shit
>>98768569>Why?He already knows, he's just a troll playing the devil's advocate and pretending to be retarded.Ie. Same as it ever was for this thread.
>>98768116have more of my 26+ year old guardsmen
>>98768413It's funny how big this guy is.>>98768423recast is 85 dollars on WTG
>>98768554>>98768550>not insignificant amount of GW's income comes from kids "dropping into a store, buying a kit and paints, and playing with what they have"I can understand a portion of GW's income coming from this demographic, but kids do not have disposable income to regularly buy new kits and keep up with army lists changing. Even if parents are involved, I doubt they buy as often or as much as an adult with adult money does in the hobby. It is sort of like Lego, where the main income is from adults nowadays, since nobody else can really afford Lego, and even if you could, the prices are getting too high to justify.My main argument is that this "prude" mindset from GW is rather outdated; it is simply not in the current paradigm of media and marketing. Even Bl*zzard is making gooner-bait skins in Overwatch again. GW is out of touch and out of date with their mindset.
>>98768495trying to appeal to the 5-10 year old market once again, I see.
>>98768569Because its an ugly setting. Everyone in 40k is an awful bastard. They can look cool or menacing but not beautiful.Alternatively its one artfag who doesn't like drawing pretty things.
>>98768590I paint my models on the base, then I base them by gluing shit to the base (sandbags, skulls, helmets, cut up sprue to look like bricks, etc), then my texture and then any foliage. I very rarely paint my ballast/sand, the natural color is perfect for what I want most of the time. You just have to work around the model's feet.I finish my bases by just running around the edge with whatever color looks the part, usually black because color-matching to my backyard is very difficult.
>>98768625The detail the sculptor put on the wings and feathers of that guy is insane. Forge World were truly too goated to be allowed to live.
>>98768625>It's funny how big this guy is.They don't call him little bird anon.
>>98768625Fuck does anyone know how good the WTG sculpt it?>>98768645YES that's why it's my favorite model
>>98768629I feel the GW higher-ups should know they priced that group out of the hobby years ago
>>98768413Hell yeah. That thing is awesome
>>98768646But like, you couldn't even proxy him as a regular LoC because he's noticeably bigger than them. >>98768653It's WTG so it's probably at least decent.
>>98768335Please be real
>>98768586Hell yeah.
>>98767539>firstYou clip out everything, clean mould lines and then sort all bits into correct places inside your bitsboxesThen you assemble whatever you need out of themUse instruction manual in order to accidentally not assemble mini as it was meant to be
>>98767773I could easily get away with a list that doesn't use the robots, flyers, or jetpack units.Especially with how good looking skitarii are and how many points I need to put into them because of the army ruleI think I'll get a box of skitarii and see how I like painting them.
>>98768410Psychic tag isn't free.
>>98768659Fuck it i'm going to buy it next month and paint it when I become less of a newfag
>>98768335take me back ;_;
>>98768413for you
>>98768691Also the great thing with WTG is since they're chinks and not ivans you know your order will arrive under 2 weeks instead of getting lost in limbo for 2 months
>>98768659>>98768653Pretty sure Dark Minatures has it as well and I've heard they generally are better quality than WTG, though shipping takes longer.
>>98767853Clumsy attempt at forcing people to buy their army again.
>>98768707sweet I hate waiting months for a package>>98768709Thanks quality matters more than money but I can't justify paying 1k on ebay for it.There's one on ebay for over 300 but I dunno that's a lot for one model
>>98768607it's not
>>98768719Dark Miniatures are Russian recasters, they have it for <$100USD
>>98768707unless it doesn't
>>98768727keked
>>98768158And look at where that got you. All the models you didn't want to replace that you can still use in the game
>>98768722i heard anons here say it waswhat is the best then?
Should 40k adopt AoS melee phase? Or nah?
>>98768747What's different about it? I have no knowledge of AoS.
>>98768747it pretty much already has.
>>98768747Faggot walking in here like anybody know anything about AoS lmao
Where are the new datasheets/rules? Warmind is still using oath of moment army rule
>>98768747there's a difference?
>>98768751I only played AoS once but the melee phase is you get to choose which units to attack in melee phase.>You hit him with this but your opponent can fight back with another unit in melee after you hit back and then you fight backIt's constant back and forth on both player's fight phases, similar to Kill Team.
>>98766092nta but thanks this is helpful
>>98768740
>>98768767How long have you been out of 40k, dude?
>>98768775>my current list is set up so i can do take and hold or reconwell, I heard recon is good with infantry spam?
>>98768629No, this is VERY much trying to appeal to the 28-45 reddit audience. They're even doing their best Attenborough impression (it's shit)
>>98768777I haven't played 11th edition yet
>>98768762I think the only difference is that in AoS they don't get a fights first bonus on charge
>>98768788why can't you just let people enjoy things
>>98768799Case and point.
>>98768805I accept your concession.
>>98768792or 10th apparently, or 9th or 8th even
>>98768805The phrase is "case IN point"
>>98768807That only works if you make an accusation or assertion.
>>98768805>>Case and point.
>>98768799No one’s stopping you, you’re free to enjoy it, and I’m free to laugh at you for enjoying it.
>>98768031Literally this kek
>>98768822jaded insufferable faggot alert
think I might take my necron monolith spam list to my next gameshould I? yes or no
>>98768829bro, just let me enjoy shitting on you for your shit taste. why you gotta be the fun police over here GOSH
So how do psykik powers work now? Is it warp charge based or a plain leadership test like in 4th-5th?
>>987687996/10 bait
>>98768834sounds funny, do it
>>98768838anon I'm gonna hold your hand when I say this...
>>98768838its a gun
>>98768531use assault brethren and tacticus assault force for reroll advs
>>98768843its and overlord, 60 necron warriors and 3 monolithsthats literally it
>>98768740Disruption is the worst. All the others can be the best depending on the army.
>>98768838Lol
>>98768858I feel like you should drop some warriors and take 1 more big thing but idk whateither way still sounds funny, do it
>>98768852Still? I was told they came back because of backlash.
>>98768834Flayers are so fucking cool. Peak 40K.
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>>98768871Meh, I'll wait for Auspex to have a slideshow up of it three minutes after it's finished.
>>98768871It's gonna be fucking nothing anyway.
>>98768869I could take 20 of them instead of 20 warriors but they're kinda unreliable in the list i'm using
>>98768871They'll just say git gud to everyone else that aren't marine players, make the playerbase suffer and playtest the game for them, and only THEN they'll do something to balance shit out.
>>98768817No, it doesn't, ESL faggot.
>5mins past>still showing adshuh?
>>98768921Shut the fuck
>>98768725Thanks I just returned the nemesis claw pack I ordered buying this guy instead.Might go full Tzeentch now
>>98768871>to begin, lets talk about the new changes to cust- *HONK* *SHOO* *MIMIMI* >now we’d like to take a break from the game and miniatures, to discuss warhammer+ and our new sho-*HONK* *SHOO* *MIMIMI* >getting back on track, let us bring up exciting mari- *HONK* *SHOO* *MIMIMI*>now we’ll wrap it up to discuss the hobby side of warhammer wi-*HONK* *SHOO* *MIMIMI*
>>98768920I accept your concession See? Like that ;^)
...whrres the stream? the twitch channel only showing some LVO game?
>>98768758If no one gives me an answer to this then I'm gonna get the 40k app.
the diety legions should get named daemon princesprimarchs do not count
>>98768935nuh uh, only I can say I accept your concession.I accept your concession.
>>98768941Your Based'lakor?
>>98768941>primarchs do not countThey do and they're the only reason your subfaction exists.
>hey where is this character? why arent they there?>proceeds to not answer the WHY codex
>>98768949so which is he a part of the thousand sons, death guard, world eaters or emperors children?
>hey will knights get the cerastus in the book?>noso its just custodes preferential treatment?
>>98768949One day, when I finish painting my ultramarines, I will buy and paint Belakor.
>>98768857Is tacticus assault force really good enough to justify replacing my BA detachments
>>98768956Yes
>>98768871Mini reveal or bullshit?
Don't send cringe questions full of memes.
>tee hee will the epic primarchs meet in an epic marvel team up ps I am alpharius!!11!I fucking hate primarch fans
>>98768960No. The tacticus detachments are the worst in the book except maybe gauntlet.
>>98768956i think it's more that the 40k studio just doesn't want to make Custodes models
>Custodes are the last codex of the yearGuess you Xenos & SoB/Guard players will have fun until 2027!
>>98768976palace bodyguards don't lend themselves to an army with a huge range and if FW already designed things like tanks and flyers and even alternatives for things GW already made then why bother?
HRUD REFERENCE, HRUDBROS WE EATING GOOD
>>98768976>yes custodes all your 30k stuff is in your book teehee>oh you play marines, knights or admech and want to use the cool 30k stuff? how about you FUCK OFF
>>98766452I made my own rules aswell with friends, with custom core rules and codices.So for us players take turns going phase by phase, so in the movement phase player 1 goes then player 2 then you go to the shooting phase etc. We have a return fire mechanic so units dont get completely wiped without being able to shoot.>For charging you charge either at the end of the movement or at the start of the fight phase. All units have an initative stat that determines who fights first and charging units always fight first going by initative if both players have units that charged before moving to non charging units.Vehicle facings also add or remove toughness based on where your aimed at and are generally immune to small arms. fighting in melee targets a vehicles rear armor except for dreadnoughts that use their front armor and everytime a vehicle fails a save you roll on a vehicle damage chart that adds bonus damage or a bonus effect.>Explosives and Flamers can also opt to shoot using a template or just rolling a D6 and also do so when shooting overwatch and other snap shots.The rules are a big WIP tho and we keep hitting balance snags but its fun
>>98768970You suck and they suck for answering with “idk”. I hope these guys die.
>>98769008I only feel bad for admech. marines and knights deserve nothing.
>marine codex is 25 eurosNot a bad deal.
>>98768560>>98768564Nah but these are rare outliers and I have seen them such as a parent buying their 15 year old a great unclean one. But parents will maybe buy a couple of kits and maybe for a birthday a big kit a year at most.But that fucking pales in comparison to college aged kids working part time jobs with disposable income and casually dropping $100s of dollars with credit cards and reckless abandon because they've yet to graduate and dont need to save yet because their parents pay for their dorm room or they live at home. Theres also 30+ neckbears who buy an insane amount of shit like they'll randomly buy an entire army 1 year because they feel like it. I saw a guard dude with I shit you not atleast 2k individual guardsmen all from GW.
>>98769087I do appreciate a well told tale, old chap.
>>98768970I love Primarchs :D
>>98769089>I saw a guard dude with I shit you not atleast 2k individual guardsmen all from GW.I believe it. I own over 200 Plague marines from the various editions.
>>98769087I thought codexes were cool when we were in fifth and I was a wee lad, now it's been a scam for a long time
>>98769118Fifth year or fifth grade?
>>98769130Fifth edition
>>98769118You weren't wrong, you just became miserable and bitter.
Newfag that was sperging about the Lord of Change modelDo people care if I put it on a 130 mm base, or will that be an issue? I don't think the model can fit on a 100 mm round base which is the standard
>>98768992>palace bodyguards don't lend themselves to an armySo MAYBE THEY SHOULDN'T BE ONEShould've just been one or two KTs shoved into Imperial Agents
>>98768634>Because its an ugly setting. Everyone in 40k is an awful bastard.It was that in the past as well and they could clearly have attractive designs.These things are not mutually exclusive. The new art is just dogshit, don't try to defend it. It's intentionally uglified because it fits the "agenda".
>>98769145technically the forgeworld lord of change is on 130mm and is an official model for the LoCso 130mm is technically a legal base size
>>98769118They are cheap enough now to justify buying again; they cost the same as any other book in a bookstore. >but the PDF scanWell, yes, but a book is also nice sometimes.
>>98768733If you don't like the game as it is just play older editions. They are better than the current one anyway.
>>98769164Actually now that I think about it it would be pretty thematic to have like 1 battleline custodes squad available in agents
>>98769145>Do people care if I put it on a 130 mm base, or will that be an issue?Yes and yes. Unless you play with friend, people will accuse you of cheating.
>>98769172Thanks anon, that is a load off my mind
>>98769182I'll just run him as AETAOS'RAU'KERES and hope people don't mind me playing using legends stuff.
>>98769207I'm 90% sure most people would be stoked to see such a cool model on the tabletop (as long as you paint it), I know I would.
Hrud mentioned by GW during stream.Time to read way too much into it.
>>98768941They have one, it's /yourdude/
>>98768495>MFW seeing thatRemember when Mantic announces Kings of War third edition and GW announced square bases were coming back? Now Space King had good success and GW put out a silly cartoonThis proves that GW pays attention to the little competition. I think GW knows they're on top but their corporate mentality is that they are paranoid of losing their number one spot so they pay attention to the little ones. Still this is not how to respond. This is bad. It has corporate "how do you do fellow kids" all over it and modern big corpo culture dictates that edgy jokes against mainstream values is verboten so the magic isn't there.The only good thing this has is that it emulates the early Flash animation styles somewhat.
>>98769271I will be awaiting GW bringing back Warhammer Historical since Warlord Games are doing pretty well right now.
>>98769139Am I overtly negative? Or are you overtly positive? I know who's full of it.
>>98769207>>98769145If you're running him as a LoC it should be the same base sizeLegends sheets are fun and most people don't mind but their point cost is wildly inconsistant at the moment.For instance AETAOS'RAU'KERES is currently cheaper than a Lord of Change despite having a better sheet.
if shards of khaine are more common than soulstones why don't the eldar just deploy forces comprised entirely of avatars of khaine
>>98769305they aren't, where did you hear that?
>>98769312they are, the hammer and bolter episode in the garden of ghosts says they're more common than relics and soulstones
>>98769305There's literally one per Craftworld mate. That's not even remotely true
>>98769271>The only good thing this has is that it emulates the early Flash animation styles somewhat.Out of laziness, not out of intent. It's pretty wild how with all their money and all their poached youtube animators they're getting shown up by a couple of schlubs with a patreon account.
>>98769319I've never watched hammer and bolter but I assume it isn't canon if they're saying obvious bullshit like that
>>98769283GW never made models for Warhammer Historical, so they have nothing to sell for that game. It's not like TOW, where they did make models and could launch the game, even a sort of extended MTO
>>98769305For one, an exarch needs to be sacrificed to activate every single avatar>>98769325Maybe must more common than, like, important relics like lost tech
>>98769325was written by the narrative lead for 40k so clearly it's canon
New bread when?
>>98769351that does not make it canon
>>98769360cope
>>98769358Image limit or page 10, this is a slow board, nothing wrong with page 7
>Legion of the Damned going into Space Marines, not Agents>despite the LotD being written to appear to ANY Imperium forces in their time of need (ie appearing with the guard on Armageddon)"Changes to be more like the lore"It doesn't even make sense game-wise as a "balance" decision, guard/SoB can *currently* bring 10 GK Terminators or 22 Deathwatch via Agents.
I PROPOSE that we let decalfag make a submission for this collage on the one conditionThat he finishes his hellblasters for it
>>98769408The one time we let him in
>>98769386Little Timmy doesn't want to play Agents, anon
>>98769386Lmao even GW know Agents codex is trash.
Are custodes the last codex of 2026?
>>98769422Darktide should have made them more popular
>>98769439yes
>>98769444Lmao this game is sad.
>>98769408stop giving retards attention
>>98769422Little Timmy could run LotD as allies into his Space Marines if they were in Agents
>>98769440I almost got a box of inquisition agent before realizing they were not a proper army. Went with GSC instead, dunno why they're not even related. But Darktide was my introduction to 40k
>>98769386>legion of the damned only helps marines now>celestine only helps sisters nowFuck the rest of the imperium I guess
>>98769455"Allies" is too complicated for little Timmy (and will eventually get removed from the game)
>looking up tips on how to paint kroot because I suck shit>maybe half of the tutorials all involve rust on the weapons>despite the kroot being always depicted as caring only about hunting and treating their weapons wellfuck man it's not like they have a lot of lore you have to sift through, there's like two pages total written on them
>>98769386Wait they released their rules? Where?
>>98769468Then that means that Knights are getting folded into AdMech and Chaos Knights are being made into Dark Mech (which is just regular AdMech with an upgrade sprue), right?>>98769475Q&A today
>>98769486>Then that means that Knights are getting folded into AdMechWhere they belong.
>>98769469they think they are backward animals so it "fits"
>>98769486>Then that means that Knights are getting folded into AdMech and Chaos Knights are being made into Dark MechNo?
Bananas were a headscratcher for the choice of first Codex to release after the launch armies already, but for the choice of the ONLY subsequent one to release for the rest of the year just raises my eyebrows into the stratosphere, what the fuck
>>98769507I don't know GW's been making some seriously braindead decisions lately, it's like the lights are on (to make money) but nobody's home. Not sure what the plan is with them.
>>98769408Might as well
>>98769507they're DESPERATELY trying to gargle henry cavill's ballsthink about how much preferential treatment custodes are getting, the playerbase isnt that big to warrant it, so this is the only logical conclusion
>>98769507>two Timmy armies and the token starter xenos army are the first to get updateIunno, seems on brand to me
>>98769486Oh they just said they aren't going to act like agents, not actual datasheets. I guess that will come when they get their own box
>>98769507Probably has to do with their HH models being the main focus on the faction now and GW wanted a minimal time period between all the Custdoes model being out for release to when they got proper rules in a codex
>>98769422>>98769455>>98769468Stop saying my name you shitposters
>>98769539This is what I figured was the reason too. When the HH models released they also announced they would have 40k rules "within the year".
>>98768960sang guard detachment sucks>>98768974gauntlets a vehicle detachment, tacticus attack force is good for combat marines due to strats/upgrades
I just realized that I never clean my paint water bucketi always fill it up but never drain to throw it away
>>98769507I mean ork and custode are obviousorks is probably most popular xenocustode is the babby first army but too cool for muhreennow what will be the 4th?
Primaris MOGGED
>>98769620get your t-levels checked, I'm deadly serious.
>>98769610Tau is FebruaryMarch is Tyranids/DrukhariApril is Drukhari/TryanidsThen comes Emperor's Children and Raven Guard
>>98769620I bet it burns when he pees lol
>>98769507Wait what, we're not getting any more codex's this year? You could easily release two more. Holy fuck they should have made this the index edition.>>98769610Rumors have said it's going to be Tau. I'd like guard to be the next after because fuck are they pathetic.
>>98769448your first edition of 40k?
>>98769620He says while posting primaris.
>>98769620but those are all primaris retardgod...
>>98769620I would really like to buy that new kill box setor at least just the ork half for 20% the price
>>98769625>no CSMSo that's why they already got their stat change
LE LE ECKS DEE XDXD PRIMARIS SHITPOSTING LE :DD XDXD XDDDD
>>98769641>>98769646>hurr durr look at me pretending to be retarded
>Marine points stealth buffed closer to their leaked valuesLmao
>>98769620When does this box go up for preorder
Does the redemptor patterns still kill the pilot because the mechanicus thought it would be funny
>>98769677tomorrow
HRUD MENTIONED BY GW
>>98769620>they made legion of the damned into primarisfunny
>>98769685Yeah they're like the dunecrawler.
>>98769703The GW guys called them firstborn, you lost
>>98769718my eyes tell me they are primaris, GW are wrong
>>98769721Huh? their design cues are all purely manlet
>>98769692I do this
>>98769740they're not short enough to be manlets
>>98769633What makes Guard bad currently? Our resident guard player stopped playing the game but aside from low tournament winerate I don't know what's the issue. I also don't know why people care this much about tournament stats, we all are casual players.
>>98769692This but assembly
>>98769579>tacticus attack force is good for combat marines due to strats/upgradesits strats and enhancements are pretty bad compared to all the other infantry ones, and the vehicles detachments besides gauntlet are strong. only use it if you have nothing else in your army worth buffing. but in a scenario where you've spammed tacticus only firestorm is probably better.
I bought the ork split from launch box but still cant decide on the clanshill me your klan
>>98769778Goffs iz da tuffest dere iz also gork and morks favourite
>>98769746NTA>points costs on units for their efficacy vs. other armies (namely marines)>skewed unit meta that includes very few of the "archetypal guard units">play experience often boils down to "somehow win on points while my entire gameplay is just lifting models off the table for 5 turns">tank spam (one of our good lists right now) is very expensive monetarily>have to try far more vs. other armies to get a comparable outcomeAmong others, these are just the ones that come to mind quickly for me
Is there any lore about how primaris grayshields handled their mutations and stuff? Like when sons of sanguinius started going crazy or sons of russ started turning into wolves, did they have a few firstborn marines from the same lineage to kind of guide them or were they just completely blindsided? Or did it just take longer to show up? I remember there were some blurbs about chapters with serious flaws hoping that primaris would fix it, and thinking that it maybe had for a while before finding out that it hadn't. So did is that the excuse?
>>98769790the mutations didn't show up until they joined their chapterskinda like how in looney tunes you don't fall until you look down and see the floor has gone
>>98769579Well, the reroll advance is good I guess. Everything else is meh
>>98769746Its not about tourney stats it's just that the army feels unfun to play in general because Guard doesn't have the rules and data sheets to play 11th. Changes to cover hurt them offensively, while it's a bit of a wash defensively. Melee armies are good this edition, it's harder to screen with overrun being a thing, and transport explosions really hurt 1w models. Guard infantry suck for the points. Guard infantry are mostly a liability and taking an all tanks list is firstly expensive for your average player and second is unfun in its own way with so much S12+ melee around, or the other player just not having any antitank. Their infantry needs to be cheaper or be better because the new blast+cleave profiles also now just dumpster them (and every other T3 army).
>>98769807Honestly, I don't really think encarmine speartip does suck. I like all their strats, adds a mortal wound bomb option, keeps my expensive flying terminators safe, and being able to abuse lance every single turn without any other investment needed. The enhancement that can give jump captain with thunder hammer access to D4 can also be nice
>>98769790First generation freeze-dried primaris were completely free of tainted seed because Cawl fixed them, it's only the subsequent generations and rubiconians that have mutations.
>>98769798I hate that this is probably about as much thought as GW has put into it too
>>98769786>>98769746>>98769814The solution is to proxy a GSC army.
>>98769821Crawl specifically did not fix any mutations because he considered them features and not bugs as other attempts to remove them have led to disastrous outcomes. The first gen of Primaris just had fresh geneseed that was stable, and even then things still broke. Many geneseed lines are unstable by nature so after a generation or two those mutations appear again.
>>98769826Not exactly, GW put both more and less thought into it. Originally primaris were "cured of their mutations by Cawl's modifications" kind of like what >>98769821 said but less shitposty. But then when that massive lore change wasn't received too well, GW backtracked and said >w-well ACKshully no they weren't, they just took longer to show up or something just shut up and take your wolfen and death company back I don't care anymore
>>98769831Ironically resurgence mechanics repackaged as "reinformemts" for guard would go a long way in making their infantry better.
how bad of an idea is it to use GSC rules and heavily converted models to represent a chaos cult? CSM just does not have what I want for a cultist army
>>98769844aaide from guard tanks, chaos has almost everything?
What counts as a character unit?If a character is leading or supporting a unit does that whole unit become a character unit? Or does only the character model get the rerolls?
>>98769843Why do they refuse to do it
>>98769855I don't even want guard tanks, in fact I don't wanna play traitor guard at all I want to play a cult
>>98769863ok....chaos still has a load of that?
>>98769865chaos has like 2 units for that, that's not enough for an army
>>98769838Oh it was another retcon Fucking retards at this company man>>98769859Yes this is in the core rules
>>98769844sounds like a good idea.
>>98769859Just the one model it's something that annoys me too, I thought my ancient gave feel no pain to everyone
>>98769869>rogue psykers>cultists>cultists with firearms>accursed cultists>renegade heavy weapons teams>renegade ogryns>plague ogrynsetc etc
>>98769819If anything, wrath of the doomed kind of sucks unless you have a much larger share of your army as pure death company. Assault Brethren already gives me assault doctrine twice per game so I don't know that I necessarily need the perma assault, the strategems are super meh, and the only characters that can even use the enhancements are the mid DC captains. Maybe I'll swap that out for something else.
>>98769859Units gain keywords of their models. For that rule the unit needs the Blood Angels and Character keywords somewhere. Then it applies to everything.
>>98769877>>rogue psykersis this even in the book?>>cultists>>cultists with firearmssame unit?>renegade heavy weapons teams>renegade ogryns>plague ogrynsthese are definitely not in the book
>>98769893oh so you're just a gay faggot idiot, gotcha
>>98769894I'm literally looking at the book nigga, where are these units?
>>98769893legends my friend
>>98769904I plan on taking this army to tourneys I can't use legends
>>98769888Maybe I'll swap it out for the terminator detachment. I only have one unit of terminators and technically two units of death company sure, but I can actually make really good use of that enhancement because turn 1 ingress can be a massive fuck you to the enemy, and I can see myself getting massively more mileage from the strategems
>>98769908>heavily converted models>tourneys
>>98769908reject tourneys and embrace SOVLnothing more kino than an aspiring champion leading an army of mortals
>>98769920most tourneys allow proxies anonand this wouldn't even be proxies, it would just be GSC with the tyranid themes replaced with chaos themes
>>98769925Conversion vs proxy is pretty important to the uptight tourney types
>>98769909>turn 1 ingress can be a massive fuck you to the enemynot really. the +1 to charges is 10x as valuable for terminators.
>>98769904>LegendsLegends is an old folks retirement home for models before they "die" and are never mentioned again. When a model goes to legends it means they're on a time limit of "official support" before they are taken out.Even if you do homebrew rules for the models or find a nice supported model to proxy with. There is always that annoying "risk fly" buzzing in the back of the head where you know that some autist at the LGS will be autistic about not playing against proxies and legends units.
>>98769931I don't think it's a huge conversion to scrape off some tyranid logos and replace them with 8 pointed stars, the TOs will be fine with it
>>98769937yeah and I don't give a fuck
>>98769920Conversions are tourney legal so long as they're 95% GW plastic or whatever the rule is.
>>98769937Except that's wrong because they said Legends sheets are coming to the official app with each codex release.
>>98769948Uh judge that's 6% resin
>>98769936What + 1 to charge are you talking about?
>>98769945I understand. The LGS autists that are stingy about conversions/proxies aren't the kind you want to play with anyway.>>98769951That caught me off guard. Are even oldhammer models getting legend support along with ForgeWorld stuff?
Longsword or broadsword?
>>98769989Longsword
>>98769989Marines are too chunky for anything but a broadsword+
>>98769989'Uge Choppa.
>>98769989is that a fucking gladius? fucking smurf pretending to be a space wolf, real wolves use axes
>>98770005>real wolves use two-handed dog dildos with knots for a crossguardFTFY
>>98769989a gun
>>98769620The big losers in all this. Chaos Marines KWAB
>>98769989piledriver
>>98770005If you aren't pretending to be retarded:It's a clearly derived from a migration period or Carolingian sword very similar to the ones found in Germanic and Nordic archaeological sites across Northern Europe. Swords were emblematic of wealth or political status.Read a book, nigger
>>98769627But enough about you
>>98770031It's the mutant, he's always retarded. He tried to pass American military dudes off as DKoK just last thread and threw a hissy when people told him that was stupid and inaccurate
>>98769524more likely they've got a shit ton of unmoved product
>>98769877>>98769893>>98769869>>98769855• Hell Blade Interceptor: A specialized, razor-thin Chaos fighter jet. It is blindingly fast and often has a semi-sentient warp entity or daemon bound directly into the machine hull, removing the need for a mortal pilot entirely.• Hell Talon Fighter-Bomber: A larger, crescent-shaped strike craft used to devastate ground targets while fending off enemy interceptors.Traitor guard also has these aicraft.>>98769863cultists exist already, go for it.
>>98767065I do agree that these are cooler than what admech is, but it's also the only time they've ever looked like thatonly that one image, even at the time blanche was doing pontifex maximus
>>98769961No but genuinely what are you talking about, terminators don't get +1 to charge in any of the three detachments being considered so where does that come from
>>98770045>ruin the appeal>refuse to walk it back or downplay it>raise prices>WHY FANS NO BUYWHY CORPORATIONS NO HIRE COMPETENT SUITS?
>>98769989An axe
>>98770036Did such a low-brow joke really get you that upset?
>>98770059>cultists exist alreadyyes, in genestealer cults. the only way to play a cultist army at the moment.
>low-browWhy does it type like a kid who grew up with grandparents?
>>98770088
>>98770123you try making an entire 2k army with just those, see how far you get
*blocks your path*>On this particular occasion, I had to persuade Jes to spare the world form the horrors of twin assault cannon and the finished model was eventually down-gunned slightly.vertical twin assault cannon has shit aesthetics compared to a single bigger assault cannon, but what always bothered me is how it had same rules as the termie one. can any grogs (if still present in this shit general) tell me how it performed on the table? were people salty about same rules despite dread+bigger gun on model? same question for melta and plasma I guess.
>>98770124YOU HAVE-firebrand cultist-cultists (plural)-accursed cultists-dark communie-beastmen-back it up with a daemon prince or daemon engines
>>98770134beast men aren’t cultiststhere is 0 chance that a cult has access to daemon engines and even LESS chance that one of them managed to become a daemon prince the rest are there but still aren’t enough for an army, and even if they were it’s too skewed. A GSC army would at least have some variety.
I genuinely don't understand how Dainton's art is so bad nowadaysit's not just that the digital medium makes his looser style look worse - although it does, to be sure - but his anatomy and colours are liquid shit nowdaysthe same man who did this and the new space marine codex cover did the motherfucking witchhunter and imperial agents covers, where did he go?!
Interesting, the price of the Adetus Custodes collector edition is why cheaper in New Zealand (it's still super high) at ZN$625 compared to ZN$826 for the Space Marine one.Maybe people will buy it this time
Primaris=Stinky poopoo!
Why do all the high tier painters I see painting on yt or insta have brushes that take and hold a needle-fine point even with paint that is rather thin? Is it just a matter of having a nicer brush?
>>98770145FUCK YOUBEASTMEN CAN JOIN A CULT IF THEY WANTYOU DON'T TELL THEM WHAT TO DO, NO FUR
>>98770171only a bad craftsman blames his toolsNever question why rich people have better stuff with better results
>>98770171I don't understand the question, thick paint makes it harder to get a point not easierThey're probably using well cared for natural brushes that get cleaned and shampoo'd after every session compared to the synthetic shit that gets a rough clean that the average newfag usesremember that a real brush is real hair and can (should) be treated the exact same as your hair, with hair soap and shaping as it dries so it naturally wants to go into a point rather than splaying
>>98770181Well it is true that there is diminishing returns to this type of stuff, but there often is a bare minimum equipment quality at which you can really do things properly. For example, is natural hair really better than synthetic?
>>98770171you get painters with brushes? lucky. all the painters I get on my fyp seem to use airbrushes exclusively. I do not own one.
>>98770171Maybe for super fine details, having a special brush might help, but it's also probably just good control on their part
>>98770194>I don't understand the question, thick paint makes it harder to get a point not easierWell to get it to a point sure, but in theory it will stick the bristles together more to stay in shape Is the shampoo thing really that big of a game changer? I've seen it done but figured it was just one of those extra, +5% benefit type of things rather than a necessary step. Also, yeah, I'm not really sure if my brushes are natural and synthetic, though I do make sure to get them back into a point before putting them away
>>98770145Beastment in 40k are not Beastmen from (later) fantasyThe whole "chaos gods fucking hate beastmen for no reason" thing is dumb anyway, especially since making a normal human into a dude with an animal head and legs is a huge blessing but somehow someone born like that isn't considered blessed
>>98770145You want to play a cult army that’s not skewed to cultists?
>>98770210Well I more just mean the fact that their brushes go to a super fine tip, and don't splay out even after applying several strokes
>>98770218cultists don’t have to just be infantry anon, they can be in vehicles or on bikes. We saw this in the secret level episode but have yet to have it on the tabletop.luckily, GSC has exactly what I want.
>>98770146That art piece and the new space marine codex cover looks just fine.
>>98770214Paint that's sticky enough to hold bristles together is too sticky to brush on smoothlyIt helps to think of your paintbrush as if you were literally using some of your own hair, if you wet your hair you can form a point with a load of strands easily and you can't really if it's dryIf you really wanna you can try forming your own hair into a brushpoint and let it dry like that to see how it worksIt definitely changes things, once I started cleaning my brushes with shampoo (actually brush soap because I'm retarded and easily parted from my money), then rinsing, then forming a point with some soap and letting it dry like that, I've had a nice point waiting for me and an easier time getting it into a point
>>98770232That sounds like a control issue then they know how much pressure to apply when putting paint on a model
>>98770249Maybe to some degree, but it happens even when just painting small lines on a random backdrop for practice. Based on what I can find it does look like natural hair forms finer points...
>>98770236>luckily, GSC has exactly what I want.welcome aboard broodbro
>>98770255Natural hair tapers to a point because of how it's madeSynthetics are just extruded tubes that get snipped, they tend to be jagged at the tip even when new and only get worse from there, which means the point of your brush can only get so pointy and quickly degrades
>>98770255Yeah, Kolinsky sable brushes do have a finer point than synthetic-haired ones, but if you're putting so much pressure on the brush to make it splay a weasel-haired brush isn't going to do you any good.
>>98770262ironically a patriarch is one of the few GSC models I can’t see myself using for this idea. Still, happy to join broodbro.
>>98770171A few things.As you paint with the brush the point of it flattens out, think of it like a scalpel going to a chisel. Pro painters rotate their brushes every few strokes to maintain that scalpel angel, doing this a lot maintains the point of all the bristles in general.Don’t twist the bristles to a point, this messes them up, do the brush rotation thing I mentioned.Never get paint beyond halfway up the bristles, and never ever get it in the ferrule. Avoid getting water in the ferrule too, when you wash your brush in your cup, just wet it up a little higher than you’ve been getting paint on it.Once you wash the brush wick off most of the moisture into a towel, and then test it on your hand, you want enough water to glisten on your hand, to see that it’s wet, but not enough to bead up into a droplet and roll down your hand. Having your bristles damp like this will prevent paint from climbing up to the ferrule.Lastly, use a bigger brush, I do very fine detail work with a number 4 a lot of the time, because I can maintain a better tip on it, since all the brush care I mentioned just works better on a number 4.
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>>98770273The thing I like the most about the army is something as utterly alien as a Patriarch standing together with bikes, autoguns, and trucks.I love GSC so much anons
>>98770285Also either get some brush oil, or a brush soap with conditioner. It’s like your hair, using brush soap is like using a harsh shampoo, you need to help the bristles stay soft after you wash them with conditioner or oil, then you just wash that out in your cup before you paint next.
Guys I am new to the hobby and need some advice. I bought Custodes Combat Patrol few days ago and I dont know how to build it.It comes with 2 squad of custodes (5 minis each) but I heard that some are changing in 11th edition to max squad of 3 + different weapons or something. Is there somewhere where I can see their upcoming stats so I dont build up something thats not legal?
>>98770300>brush oil, or a brush soap with conditionerWhat's the difference?
>>98770315I thought combat patrols had no choices
>>98770264>>98770265So, turns out the brush I was using actually was one of citadel's sables, so it's not that >>98770285>Don’t twist the bristles to a point, this messes them up,So that whole bit of advice is just misinformation? Honestly, now looking at all of the factors together, I might need a new brush. I did let some paint dry in the belly of this one, and though I did manage to get all of the visible bits out by weakening them with isopropyl, it is struggling to hold a point. It can hold one just as well as a generic synethetic, but neither of them seem to naturally want to go back into a point the way I see with other people's brushes. I'll dry using shampoo to shape it after today's painting like you guys advised. If there is no improvement, I'll just have to pick up a new one
>>98770315Sell it off and get something else, nobody wants to play against custodes.
>>98770334https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vQFlYW3g_II only trust spaniards when it comes to painting advice
>>98770332shit I didnt actually check inside of the box yet...but it looks like one of the units (custodes with sword and shield) are no longer in new codex. What am I gonna do?>>98770357I want small elite army thats easy to transport
One of you niggas make the new thread. I’m busy doing shit
>>98770365I've watched this video, yeah
>>98770372I don't know if they changed the Custodian Guard kits as to my knowledge they used to come as fives and now they're in threes but check their weapon loadouts and you can have yourselves 3x3 custodians and then a character with the extra body with the spare bids.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D1OSAi8F896Rne46A8A-oTeAYqHHIuFh/viewActually I'm just checking it and apparently you have three options for your basic infantry,Sentinel Sodality with Swords & Shields, unit of 3 modelsCustodian Guard Sodality with Guardian Spears, 3 modelsCustodian Wardens with either Guardian Spears or Axes, 2 or 3 models.Wardens and Guard seem interchangeable with each other if they have spears, you can just build 3 guys with shields and the rest with spears so you can have them in a combination of 3-2-2 for 7 models and so on. Just check the sprues
>>98770396gimmie a tq and edition idea
>>98770315the codex leaked on reddit the other day. you can maybe still find a link.
How do you know if you have tremors or just shit technique
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>>98770404I dont know if I can build wardens (spear) as custodian guard (spear) because their models look different?Some people also say that I can build one as shield captain or something. Do I just build it and claim that its shield captain? Is that ok?
>>98767276I'm trying to still make it "feel like 40k", so big changes like changing the dice or moving to alternate activations are out. If every other games uses AA, then 40k not doing that becomes part of its identity.I have thought about bringing back old vehicle rules, right now I've just got them as high T multi wound units (while reducing almost everything else bar characters & monsters to 1W) but I might put out a poll to decide which way to go. I already planned to poll for template weapons as those are also something I'm on the fence for.As far as wound fishing, I have a partial solution to that in the would chart making high T units immune to small arms fire. S4 cannot wound T10, and S3 cannot wound T9, so most tanks will be notably harder to fish wounds from. Though bolters into Chimera might be an issue.My main issue is wanting to reduce friction points in the rules, and vehicle facing introduces a potential point of friction. +1/-1 is something I'm planning on keeping. Though not as ubiquitous as in current 40k.
>>98769008once again, Solar Auxillia are forgotten...
