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Waking Up Screaming Edition

Here is a thread to discuss trading card games other than the big three.
>Build Divide
>Force of Will
>Final Fantasy TCG
>DBZ CCG
>Wixoss
>Keyforge
>Gundam
>Legend of the 5 Rings (L5R)
>Digimon
>Flesh and Blood
>Gate Ruler
>Battle Spirits
>Ashes
>One Piece
>The other DBZ game
>Sorcery
>Doomtown
>Warlord
>Magi Nation
>Lord of the Rings
>Neopets
>The Condemned CCG
>Grand Archive TCG
>Disney Lorcana
>Hubworld: Aidalon
>Little Troubles
>Riftbound
etc.

Post about card games you've played and help other anons get to know your games!

Pastebin/Rules for some games
>Wixoss
https://pastebin.com/LC8SpttH
>FoW
https://pastebin.com/aGEBEKeF
>Dragonball GT SD
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pj_0YeUXI5g4XyKwbAXJuZCGt3qWJwyp
>Gate Ruler
https://pastebin.com/nbcZP0nB
>Build Divide
https://pastebin.com/1cQT2pkz
>FaB
https://rentry.org/oypcs
>Ashes Reborn
https://pastebin.com/2jr0EG9S
>Netrunner
https://pastebin.com/g3yQAQ7w
>Fusion World
https://www.dbs-cardgame.com/fw/pdf/rules/manual/fw_manual_EN_v1.20.pdf
>Various Japanese CCGs without western translation (page is in moonrunes)
http://card.g1.xrea.com/tcg/catalog.html
>The Condemned CCG
https://pastebin.com/Liu2E7Rq

voice chat for playing /acg/
https://discord.gg/rCQFKcGcEP

>Previous Thread
>>98733723

>Thread Question
What is your favorite alternate win condition in any /acg/?
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Does Riftbound tell a story through each set?
Not sure what's going on
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>>98777543
Yes, as the effort put into each set rises or falls you can see the story of Riots quarterly revenue reports play out before your eyes.
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If you don't want to use discord, make a forum, because you sure as hell aren't making a game on 4chan. You still won't because you don't want to make games, you just like the idea of making games
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I remember using Pojo for Yu-gi-oh during 5D/GX era lol. Forums were kinda based

Discord, I can barely use
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Fifth for, I stopped caring about Gundam before I even finished the deck I wanted, because of strike freedom and blockslop.
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acg is real tsundere about riftbound lmaooo
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>>98778418
/acg/ is tsundere for all western games.
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>>98778426
Nah, /acg/ blatantly hates FAB, for example. But you can tell some anons here tried Riftbound for the first time expecting to hate it because of the IP and Riot, only to find that they actually enjoyed it. They probably hate themselves for liking a top 10/popular game.
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I'm collecting gundam but my severe social anxiety is preventing me from going out and actually playing.
Anyway, looking to collect a second card game. Is FF TCG dead on arrival?
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I'm in the mood for a !MtG Shandalar
DM anon better get things going so we can fork your shit, that lazy AI one some made earlier this year was terrible
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This thread is kek'd, I shan't be posting here anymore. You off topic porn mongers ruined it.
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>>98778476
DM anon here. Sorry for the slow progress. I was on hiatus from working on it for multiple months because of real life bullshit. I did resume a few weeks ago and it's going well.
I really want the first public release to be in April of next year because that's when DM blocks start and I want 2-block constructed to be playable immediately so there's at least one "complete" competitive format while I work on the rest of the cards.

On the topic of !MtG Shandalar: The rules engine is its own library so if someone wanted, they could link that library against a custom client so it should be pretty easy to make a Shandalar clone. The rules engine is built using a generic card game framework that should be pretty easy to adapt to make other card games. I scope-creeped pretty hard.
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>>98778512
Their goal was to ruin this thread all along, they are emboldened by your disgust. They are not good people and their off topic posting should be flagged for deletion.
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FLESH
AND
BLOOD

Is saved.
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>>98778450
FAB occupies a special place in /acg/ history though. It would probably be a beloved /acg/ darling if not for the FAB community being who they are.
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>>98778542
>The rules engine is its own library so if someone wanted, they could link that library against a custom client so it should be pretty easy to make a Shandalar clone. The rules engine is built using a generic card game framework that should be pretty easy to adapt to make other card games. I scope-creeped pretty hard.
intrigued. is this a github or something?
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>>98778464
I don't know but the cards are nice.
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>>98779023
I would probably have gotten into it if the commons didn't feel so thrown together
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>>98776260
both the necromancer arts are so fucking cool
i always struggle to pick which one to play with haha
mad jelly of anyone that got a alt art necro foil
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>>98778450
Why hate flesh and blood?
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>>98779023
Wait... is that what I think it is??
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My girl might be gone by the end of the day :'(
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How much bigger does it need to be before Lorcana gets its own general/ how much longer?

the answer is never ever because Lorcana's audience is anathema to 4chan's usual audience
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>>98779023
Did Krile just pop a fantasia and go hyur?
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>>98779440
all disneyslop need it's own mlp containment board
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>>98779299
No, not even a pantyshot.
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bro wtf

do I still need to go to locals nowadays?
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>>98779545
Nope.
You don't even need to post on 4chan anymore.
Faggot.
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>>98777359
The card that you posted is very cool OP. What game is it from?
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>>98779473
Seconded, mousecucks are a blight
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>wtf I have to go play the game to play the game????
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>>98779560
Go kill yourself you stupid fucking bitch
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>too retarded to figure out how to make his own sim or play a game in TTS
>too retarded to fucking go outside and play a card game
>has the gall to tell someone else to kill themselves
lol
lmao even
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>>98779635
>>too retarded to figure out how to make his own sim or play a game in TTS
>>too retarded to fucking go outside and play a card game

Lol how you came to these conclusions is retarded in itself.
It ain't that serious.
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>>98779440
I have nothing against Lorcana players in abstract but I wish the game never existed.
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>>98779680
The dudes fucking retarded. No where did you mention about making your own sim.
And the locals part was in reference to the amount of sims on there.
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Look guys I'm the Sorcery writer!
>An ordinary boat.
>An ordinary boat.
>An ordinary boat.
>An ordinary boat.
How "do" I do it?
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>>98779473
>>98779620
>>98779840
Jesus Christ guys, what did we do to you?
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>>98779606
> Lord of Vermilion II
It's not even a trading card game and more akin to a video game. Next OP will be Pirates of the Spanish Main or POGS
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>>98779433
Congrats?
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>>98780491
She's probably gonna go during PQ season.. She deserved to win the 100th Calling... Warrior truly is the worst class
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Welp my locals dropping One Piece. The only people buying were scalpers chasing the manga arts or whatever and dumping the rest in the recycling bin by the counter. Nobody was playing and it was just taking up limited space on shelves. Meanwhile Digimon is still going which honestly shocked me. Gundam i expected from brand inertia alone but i was honestly expecting DNA's footlong stack of horseshit to keep track of for one character to kill off interest but here we are. Never thought it would outlive One Piece what with the tv show hitting with normies.
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>Find my old World of Warcraft tcg decks and collection in a box on top of closet at the back covered in dust
>Never actually played them just bought them back when i played WoW like a fucking dumbass
>Decide to give it a go with friends
>Its just mtg commander balanced for 2 players and with multiples of cards
>Have a good time and people watching ending up playing over the Cyberpunk demo
>Google what happened
>Killed for fucking Hearthstone
Poor game was too good for this world.
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>>98780702
Nigga should’ve kept his arcane polarity instead of pitching it
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>>98780322
Nothing, it's an issue with the parent company. Replace Lorcana with similar mechanics and non Disney themeing and there wouldn't be an issue.
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>>98780774
>Its just mtg commander balanced for 2 players and with multiples of cards
that was how it started, but it became so much more than that. ambition was off the charts. one of the absolute best TCGs and yeah it deserved better.

also among the longest running fan continuations, because it really is that good
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>>98778950
It will be once the simulator releases. I'm working on the client, rules engine, and framework all concurrently.
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>>98780702
>Warrior truly is the worst class
Warriors are the biggest divas in the game. The most diverse weapon spread in the game, they block good, attack good, get go again out the ass and can choose between burning down the opponent by drenching them in reactions or drenching them in other type of reactions to fatigue them and swing sword with the last card in hand. The only weakness you have is that you don't draw good
>GOLD exists
Scratch that, you have zero weaknesses.
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>>98780127
>An Ordinary Boat of Unique Capitalization
Look mom I'm making flavorful rules text!
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>>98780476
>II
lmao why make the distinction
It's just Lord of Vermilion. That's like specifying the set.
OP probably didn't even know what it was either.
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>>98781513
You might mistake it for the video game card game inside XIV instead
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>>98781536
>mistake it
That's just Lord of Vermilion. They're both Square Enix game. FFXIV has Triple Triad and mahjong in it too.
That's like saying you might mistake mahjong for the mahjong inside of FFXIV instead.
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I bought this cute card.
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>>98782075
Adorable! What game?
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>>98782155
Gangan Versus. It's an official card game published by Enix from 2000 and features characters from Gangan Comics (Fullmetal Alchemist, Soul Eater, Pani Poni Dash, etc.)
While the comic is still around the card game is long since dead. The art evokes an indescribable sense of warm nostalgia.
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>>98779868
>>98779680
>durrr there no sim i can use?? duhhhh durrrrrr
>what TTS duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>i cant make my own sim!!!!!!!
>um actually i was talking about going to locals because there ARE sims!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>98778450
Yep... I was a Riftbound hater but it converted me in the end. The gameplay is fun and the decks have gotten significantly more interesting since Origins, also it's pretty cheap.

FaB's biggest issue is simply LSS being greedy kikes. They are a terrible company that have nothing but contempt for their non-whale players

Anyway
>Won nexus night finally
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>>98780127
An Ordinary Man Seeks Single Woman
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>>98779242
overhyped by bitter ex-magic players + game is expensive
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>>98777359
What sleeves do japan use? Need some high quality yugioh size ones
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>>98782274
>Won nexus night finally
Congrats, bro.
I may not play Riftbound or care much about it, but I swear most of this thread is collectors, larpers, and trolls, so it's nice to hear about someone playing and winning rather than all the whining and negativity we usually hear.
Either way, cheers to that, and hope you score more future wins.
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Had a chance to try this on Sunday. Who knew the worst tentacle raping I'd ever receive would be in a Disney card game? Turns out trying to play this 4 players is rediculously difficult, and I wouldn't recommend it unless you have a very specifically tuned deck. Later 2 player attempts at the same table were far more successful, so be warned to keep the player count low.
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>>98780127
Hi, I am writing for another tcg

>Phayget, the unsinking vessel of Captain F'embuoyslayer - taking a voyage
>'Just breathe and relax, i am docking my boat in your tight bay' - Captain F'embuoyslayer at the dock of F'embuoy coast metropolis
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>>98782941
duragon shirudo
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Huh didn't think they'd do it.
Pretty sure I lost my original account by now tho
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>>98783622
Are they selling online only decks too?
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>>98779473
>>98779620
It's called /co/.
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>>98783666
Bruh, they don't even like us *there*.
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>>98783198
I know tcg players can't read but it literally says 1-2 players on the box.

I don't even play lorcana and I can see that.
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>>98783760
Oh, ignore that. The 1-2 refers to what's in the box (they include 2 decks so that it's stand-alone). They explain in the rulebook that you can expand to up to 4 players by adding your own decks, and they include enough pieces to allow you to do so. In fact, they suggest using your own decks for some of the harder scenarios. It was like that for the last 2 co-op games, as well.
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>>98779620
>>98779473
Pedophiles getting uppity again about who is allowed to post here. You lack any sense of awareness, as usual.
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>>98783695
>Bruh
Kill yourself.
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>>98783990
Biiitch, don't be a hater just 'cuz you jealous.
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>>98783655
Yeah digital are going to be F2P where you grind for free packs or pay for decks cheaper than the physical
Didn't realize they already have the Altered "print my deck" pipeline in place tho -- so you can get it digital then print it physical
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How is Lorcana doing as a game, not investor bait
Is the scene growing?
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>>98784531
not really, got autistic disney adults for a while but then they encountered the concept of a meta for the first time and bounced.
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>>98784531
In my area, my LCS is having trouble getting product from Ravensburger to meet the demand, but I have no indication if the numbers are rising or falling in general.
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>>98784551
How many women are there? Looking for a Disney adult gf
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>>98784575
Most of them have husbands or children. I think you'd be better off getting fat furry pussy at Cookierun or the new mlp game if that's running yet.
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>>98784412
Huh that's pretty cool, though I guess that means they'd probably rather people print from them instead of letting proxies be tournament legal I assume
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>>98783805
I'm not an anime cardcame player thougheverbeit
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TCG/comments/1wxvmr3/why_is_lorcana_the_fastest_growing_tcg_of_2026/
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>>98784975
holy cherrypick
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Congrats Euros, it will now be now easier to get into Holoka and other games.
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>>98785026
What the fuck is Bluthelden
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Fucking fags saw CardNexus get steam and finally decided to add more games
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>>98784990
What the fuck? 500%? Fabled sucked! It was full of reprints!
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what game
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>>98785026
Who is playing Palworld?
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>>98785471
Typically its gross fat NFT loving dads who hate nu-pokemon or video gamers like OP who would rather post Mobile Suit Gundam Arsenal Base or Naruto Emblem Battle because they can't get enough digital+physical gameplay.
>please bring back The Eye of Judgement
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I don't play this game but I entered for shits and giggles and because I like Seraphine. Is this even a good deal? What does a box in this game usually go for? Can you make a competent deck with only cards from this set or very few cards from other sets at least?
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>>98785768
Yeah it's fine that sounds about right.
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>>98778942
>>98779242
LSS being gacha levels of predatory with their releases doesn't help. The community is autistic sweats top to bottom, and there's no entry point for new players that's even passably fun.
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>>98785840
>no entry point for new players that's even passably fun
Yeah all of the players in my area turned into investors in the 3 years I played. Now local chat is just bouncing around whatever they got from the last calling or their 6 extra chinese new year sink belows. RIP SAGE I was the only player here for it.
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Funny enough all of the most hardcore investor type faggots who dropped in just once or twice hoping to scoop some $$$ cards from the weekly all bounced off it and turned to Riftbound or Sorcery kek. Can't help but laugh from across the LGS when I see them huddled together with their binders and exclusive alt arts or whatever nonsense. The exact type of faggot to drop out of the tournament X-1 and not even stay for fun.
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Came in 2nd of 8 in my last Lorcana set champs for a while (2nd kid due in Dec). I've played in 1-2 every set since set 4 and come in 2nd four times now, but never gotten the mat. I lost a mirror on 3 games to some ringer who signed up last minute at the main store I play at, and despite it being single elimination the app dropped me to third (because of opponent game win record, since I took him to 3 games...) and so I took home 3 prize packs instead of 8 for 2nd, plus of course no mat. Kind of a kick to the nuts, though I know that's how these things go.

So I'm gonna go ahead and sell my expensive cards and move to a new game when I come back, I think. Or maybe buy back in to whatever is the cheap deck after another rotation or two. This store has been dogshit with prizing since one of the co-owners left, and I'm not really enjoying the game much anymore, it's just too linear and every matchup is "you either get the back breaking card and stomp, or you roll over".
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>>98784191
Whatever void of undeserved confidence you need to shut the world away, dude.
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>>98785887
Sorry to hear you got so close, but never got your mat. That must be frustrating. I play pretty casually, so no mat for me yet, either, but I'm not mad because I'm not super locked-in.
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>>98785948
Yo, no cap, y'all be talkin' up sum cray cray shit, an' I ain't 'bout to be havin' that.
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SAGE is fun tho
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>>98785471
>>>/bushi/
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For people who play riftbound, is Mel any good?
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>>98785671
It's all card games you pedant. Shut up and go back to sleeving.
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>>98778426
Riftbound is a Chinese game.
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>>98786749
Nobody is sleeving your faggot ass thick piece of plastic junk you got from a gachapon retard.
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>>98787186
Your house smells like shit clean it up already you filthy piece of shit. An unsleeved card is an unsleeved soul.
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unironically the best /acg/
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>>98783169
Hey thanks

I think it's just harder to talk about actual games than collecting so the posts skew that way, even when I've tried to post about playing various games here before most people seem to have mostly a casual/kitchen table understanding of a game at most

But if anyone wants to talk about Riftbound I'd be happy to. I've been playing basically nothing but Azir IRL since I started playing
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>>98787258
>Still no release outside of NA or Asia
fuuuuuck this shit
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>>98785887
>I'm not really enjoying the game much anymore
I said this from day one. Lorcana mechanically is a boring game.
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>>98786732
She's not unplayable dogshit but she's not good good either.

She's pretty cheap to build at least and the staples she does use are used in other decks so you could build her for fun and transition to another deck if you hated her
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I got a new cute loli.
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>>98788091
Very nice ^_^
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>>98788129
Thanks. I like to imagine she's Luna's long lost sister.
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>>98786732
She’s unplayable dogshit. Her legend is blank since there are no good empower cards for her deck. They banned Stacked Deck so finding her only good card (Rebuttal) is hard. If people at your lgs play real decks they’ll crush you.
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>>98788503
Noted, at least shes cheap to build.

>>98787920
Sounds like an idea.
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>>98787258
was this game always one of these japanese-style illegible mess games? I thought I remembered seeing cards from earlier on that had cleaner art/layout
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>got accepted for riftbound box purchase
>still hesitant if i want to go that deep into the game
i'm still skeptical about riot after LoR, 2XKO, etc
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>>98789129
Buy singles. Hasn't been worth getting boxes since Origins.
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looking for a new collectable card game to get into, could you guys post your favorite cards of your favorite games? thanks
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>>98789354
>you've activated my SWEAT card!
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>>98788141
Luna my beloved.
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>>98789354
that foil is gonna peel bro it's not even sleeved up wtf
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>>98789354
I'd include a lot more cards
but here's a sampling of favs
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>>98789636
She got a new naked tummy recently.
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>>98789685
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm me LIKE!! I wonder if anyone at my locals play it...
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>>98790072
hahaha
I've personally never seen anyone play it.
But it would be pretty hilarious with some combos or counter plays.
But you could also always just be including King of the Realm in your deck instead... He isn't Air Threshold tho.

But imagine that and your opponent is playing Corruptor or something. And then you slap down Archangel Samael. Whoops!
Or you kill your OWN board flooded with Evil-ized mortals. And then mismanaged mortuary. And then Archangel Samael. Haha.
Love my theoretical jank combos that will never happen.

People don't tend to play full mortal decks in contstructed. This thing would go HARD AS FUCK in draft/limited if you pulled it tho lmfao.
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>>98790105
by "it" i meant that specific card kek.
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>>98790072
I don't know, those all look pretty gay.
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>>98790176
What's wrong with gay?
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>>98790181
A lot of things, you faggot.
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So how's Flesh & Blood?
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>>98790203
Whatever you say, kike.
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>>98790362
They're in hemorrhoid status now; incredibly annoying but difficult to shake off. A lot of butthurt coming from their fans and cruel indifference from LSS makes for am impressive sustained letdown with no changes coming in sight. Sad, really.
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>>98790954
Amazing it's taken so long. LSS has been doing "predatory indifference" for years at this point.
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So. How would you fix Gundam card game?
Hard mode: not banning strike freedom.
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>>98790405
Yeah that's right, nigger.
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>>98791247
delete Bandai and get some good card game developers.
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>>98781381
Assassins play the reaction game better. Guardians are better at blocking. We don't have any meaningful disruption except for in-class hate. Warrior is the most fair class and thus the worst class. We are still the only class to not have a hero LL, except for newly released Necromancer and even then that is only because Gravy was held back by the new LL point system and bans. We are also the only class not to have any class bans
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>>98791365
this, but it'll never happen
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>>98790362
Great
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>>98790954
FaB 3.0 is litterally around the corner. Stop spewing nonsense and misinformation. There is zero butthurt from the fans. Only ones wining are new players being priced out of competitive
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>>98790014
I also love the battle maniac vampire guy. He was fun in story mode.
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the new battle spirits anime have people cutting necks lmao
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>played riftbound for the first time tonight at nexus night
>went 0-3 but had fun
i definitely need to cut some units from my vex deck and replace some with better ones
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why does gundam CG play bad if one piece CG plays good
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>>98779242
Personally everyone who peddles that shit to me starts saying it's so cool and they're so welcoming and loving to new players then drops the five billion dollar entry point for resserved list cards and everyone being a turbospike with no casual or low stakes events to learn the fucking game at.

It's the tcg equivalent of those predatory loans for first time entrepreneurs that target soccer moms selling homemade goods.
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>>98781294
Shame there's no good scans to make proxies and share it with people who never got in.
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>>98781084
If it wasn't for the high quality art and disney IP it would already be dead. It's not that fun and now that there's so many alternative wincon games around it doesn't even stand out for not being yet another count to 21 creature combat game.
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>>98782941
kmc is the lord of japan size sleeves
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>>98784531
Disney is running events at their cruiseline instead of local game stores.
Should tell you who they want to play the game.
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>>98785026
>tfw It's gonna be easier to get Shadoba from eurostan than locals in latam
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>>98792625
They also sell exclusive stuff at the parks. That doesn't mean that the bulk of their players aren't huddled over sweaty folding tables in a tiny lgs like every other game here.
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>>98789129
people been saying it's for real and riot's not gonna let it go this time but if that were true we wouldn't need to be queing for product, the chinese version might have legs but they don't even care enough about worldwide to fix distribution issues
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>>98778542
Redpill me on this (I don't even know what !MTG Shandalar means).
I've spent like 10 years working on card game simulators, I find seeing what other people are doing fascinating.
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>>98792015
Damn I made a thread on /a/ to talk about it but it died with no one replying. I guess anyone who gave a shit was here all along.
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>>98793090
Animated card game shows need to move away from showing full fledged battles and doing more about the story
Wixoss did it right
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>>98793090
there is one thread alive in /a/ right now anon
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>>98792489
If you want advice I'm happy to help
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>>98793090
Been thinking of watching it if there was a non-torrent way to do so, doesn't seem like there is though
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>>98793515
anon the torrent is from crunchyroll
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>>98793306
I wish the MtG manga got an anime. There's some yu-gi-oh visuals during the card battles but mostly it's just a cute coming of age romance about two kids who play Magic. It's cheesy but cozy.
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>>98793543
The MtG manga is really fun. Lots of references to random 90s anime and pop culture. The part where they were looking at BL doujinshi with characters from a new and unknown manga and it turned out to be One Piece was hilarious.
And yeah would be cool if it got an anime but Wizards of the Bitches would never allow cute girls. Although there are official tokens. Check them out once you have the chance you'll jizz yourself.
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>>98792598
I used to use them but I thought the quality dropped ?
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>>98790014
Is there a specialty Shadowverse online shop for singles? I would like to purchase this card from someone. TCGPlayer and ebay only have scam listings.
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>>98793535
I meant I was hoping it would be on something I'm already subscribed to (or free on YouTube like the older Gundam episodes) but fair enough, I'll try looking into it, thanks
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>>98785051
No clue but this is my guy
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>>98793676
Gotta wait for >>98785026, america is trying way too hard to prevent shadoba from taking hold for whatever reason.
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>playing at Riftbound locals
>opponent is shuffling his hand and flicking his cards constantly during my turn
>ask him if he could stop as it's distracting
>"seriously? It's not a big deal"
>he keeps doing it
>call a judge over and explain that my opponent is distracting me on my turn
>gets told he will receive a game loss if he keeps doing it
>guy gives me a death glare the rest of the match
Am I the bad guy here? It was genuinely breaking my concentration.
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>>98793975
>Am I the bad guy here?
No. Games are starting to ban excessive hand shuffling.
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>>98793543
Are you gonna watch the upcoming Pokemon tcg anime?
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>>98793998
Is the story about a scalper raiding wallmarts?
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>>98793060
I've been working on a simulator for the Duel Masters OCG (ie. all Japanese cards). Feature-wise it will at least have online play and some simple AI (non-LLM) opponents.
I was pretty new to programming when I first started early last year and I've gone through a couple of failed attempts, but I'm very confident with the current iteration (built on a custom framework that's meant to elegantly solve most of the issues I had in my previous attempts).

>I don't even know what !MTG Shandalar means
Shandalar is the nickname for the Magic the Gathering PC game from 1997. It's like an open world RPG where you explore the world, collect cards, build decks, and fight monsters by doing actual MtG duels. There are mods that add newer cards, and the MtG simulator "Forge" has an adventure mode based on it. It's pretty cool.
!MTG Shandalar would be a Shandalar-like game for a card game that's not Magic. Honestly a Duel Masters Shandalar would be so awesome and I'm half tempted to make it myself, but that would be way after the simulator is card and feature complete (probably years from now).

>I've spent like 10 years working on card game simulators
I'd love to hear any advice you're willing to share.
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I'm really considering opening an old-fashioned forum for /tg/ development but I would never be able to manage it by myself. I might start a thread and see if there's any interest
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>>98793975
Honestly yes you're a fag
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>>98794428
it's already banned in YGO
hopefully riot does it too and makes these niggas start bubbling
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>>98793975
I genuinely don't know what "flicking cards" means because I've never encountered any behaviour that could be described as such that could be construed as a problem even by the most unhinged and disingenuous person.
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He means shuffling your hand
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What are some alterative card games with mill decks?
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>>98794835
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>>98794835
The last Lorcana set featured some colors that use self-milling as a resource. Offensive mill does exist in the game, but it's not that viable/competitive of a strategy yet.
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>>98793998
No? Why the fuck would I do that I'm interested in card games not Pokemon.
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>>98793879
I thought cardmarket didn't deliver to the US.
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>>98794835
Battle Spirits. I hope you like milling 16+ cards a turn.
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>>98794490
Look up some videos. It's a tactic used by those 48 laws of power types to distract on purpose even if it only increases the win chance by 0.1
Like sitting across from someone for chess and scatting on their turn
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>>98795048
YOU'RE NOT A FUCKING CARD GAME FAN THEN
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>>98795052
you're correct
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>>98795062
sexxxxxxxo!
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>>98795870
Well I guess I'll give up then.
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>>98795665
Fine by me, scalper.
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>>98793543
>>98793670
Why tf didn't I know this was a thing? Will be reading it later tonight
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Narutos TCG
The one summon per turn causes a pre 2006 Yugioh condition called topdecking syndrome
Supports are the real units in this game.
Some supports are broken like Jiraiya
The game goes play summon set supports
Wait for someone to attack
Flip supports
Board is cleared
Topdeck something or not
Its a loop where you and your opponent support rape each others board until one loses card advantage ie their hand is shit
It reminds me of old yugioh where you NO U Trap spammed all the time
If you could play more units per turn this wouldnt be an issue but fucking christ its terrible
EX summons just lmao they are broken as you can spam them as much as you want in your turn meaning this game will devolve into EX summon hand vomit OTK
The lack of non unit cards other than summon and chakra is disappointing
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>>98796290
>The lack of non unit cards other than summon and chakra is disappointing
Bandai has been simplying its games over time.
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>>98794835
Holoka doesn't have any effects that force your opponent to mill but out of the decks that do self mill, Riona goes into it the hardest, with arts that mill her own deck as the effect so she can get in range of activating her SP to close out the round.
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>Azalea spotted
>in the eyes of an assassin that does her job ten times better than she ever did
James is taking the piss. Ranger set never ever.
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>>98796976
ENHANCE....
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>>98794835
Ashes
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If LSS killers her off to give Dr. Mortimer street cred I'll never return to the game.
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>>98796274
I hope you like it. It's really enjoyable, even if you don't like magic.
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>>98796274
Keep us updated.
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>>98794835
this is a good answer right here >>98797135
Ashes is one of the only games I've played where mill is a fucking legit part of the actual game instead of a bullshit backdoor wincon.
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>>98796290
>>98796351
A war game really doesn't need any more card types than actor, asset and action. Artifacts and Enchantments should've never been separate card types.
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>>98797116
kino.
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>>98798384
I will play your game one day and that excites me.
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>>98798401
Thank you! Bit by bit all the pieces are coming together and that excites me as well
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>>98798416
Waiting on some revisions to get rid of some of the roundness, but the next character I'm getting artwork for is the other female. The more book smart academic based on Evelyn from the Mummy
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why are the japanese so bad at balancing in card games?
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>>98794201
Sure.
A few of the issues that just about every single jinteki clone right now is running into are server scaling. For every feature, you should immediately thing "does this work if 100 people are doing this?". Does ashteki work if 200 people are using the lobbies at the same time? (answer is no).
If you have the luxury of working on a dead card game, you can plan out all the features ahead of time and make sure your engine supports it, which is super nice.
You probably already do unit testing, but being able to unit test individual cards and functions in a really easy way is such an insane boon to development time and bug tracking that you'll kick yourself for not getting it set up sooner.
Just writing a basic wrapper which sets up a game with two decks (which don't have to be legal, for the sake of these tests), and rigged starting hands, means you can write any test super quickly to determine basic card functionality and ensure it stays if/when you do rewrites.

Open!Batoru is kino, but the dev shot himself in the foot by making cards very verbose (when wixoss as a game is so simple that 95% of the card pool should just be cards definitions that just look like
{"card-id" "Jester, first play"
"enter": (vanish-power-lte 9000 ["1c"])
"life-burst": (vanish-upped-card ["1c"])})

I'm assuming since you've tried a few times you've already separated out all stats from implementation. The optimal way (in my opinion) is to have a database of cards which you can update, and each card has an id (ie the full name of the card), and you just write an implementation against the full name of the card.

That's kind of the main advice I can give without knowing more. I really wish I knew the unit testing one way earlier in my career.
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>>98794201
>>98798867
Oh, one more.
If you intend to have your software be translated in any way, you should give some serious thought to how you want to do that as early as possible. Mozilla uses fluent, which seems really nice, but you'll still need to solve the sentence structure issue if you generate text.
Most western languages have roughly the same sentence structure as english, but all the eastern languages have sentences that are formed differently, so you can't just staple translation fragments together if your engine generates text.
Most of the popular commercial clients (like runeterra) basically just had libraries with thousands upon thousands of translation lines in them to cover everything (though that game had no game log, so they only needed interface, card text, and hover text for keywords and features - and they still fucked it up). Also, even though you're likely to crowdsource this stuff, never let anybody touch it unless they are very proficient in both the source language of your game, the language they are translating into, and the rules of the game and how things should look. If somebody is "learning spanish", then the best they can possibly do is tell you if the vibe of translated text in spanish is reasonable.
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The Morde alt art goes so hard.
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Do I need to play LoL? I don't shit about the characters
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>>98799382
no, and you really shouldn't play LoL anyway
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can i play the sexy goblin things in riftbound?
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>>98799511
The yordles?
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Is the gothic precon set a good place to start with Sorcery? 40 bucks for 4 decks sounds like a good deal.
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They need to pair ban blockers in Gundam, genuinely annoying to see someone play blockers for the first 7 turns and then just drop SF on the 8th and win. Dumbest card ever printed
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>>98798867
I think I should be good for most for this stuff due to the nature of the engine/framework. Not gonna get too technical into it but basically cards (and game rules to a degree) are implemented with a custom scripting language designed to run as bytecode with minimal memory overhead. That's what I'm working on right now. It might take a while. I tried a few other existing embedded scripting languages like Lua and Angelscript but unfortunately they have one issue or another that makes them not work for my use case of running potentially thousands of scripts simultaneously on the same server (eg. memory overhead for each script, improper sandboxing between scripts, nontrivial state serialization, etc.).

I'll make a special note to make my testing environment really robust. In past versions I've done simple "cheat" commands for forcing me to draw a card I want. I'll definitely try to expand that. Probably some automated system for instantly loading a game state that I want (eg. card in hand, enough mana to cast, creatures in battle zone to target with abilities/spells, etc.).

>>98798953
Since the game is Japanese, this was a consideration since day 0. Both the cards and the interface will support English and Japanese. I know enough Japanese myself that I'll be able to do it all myself, though I'll just scrape English card translations from the wiki because that's what the English community has gotten used to... even if I would have translated many things differently myself (not rules, just wording and names).
I'll leave any other languages up to contributors. Even if I don't bother to officially merge other translations (because I wouldn't know if I could trust it), the plan is that all translation stuff will be files you can just throw into a particular directory to be loaded at runtime, so the community could just host their own repos for that.
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>>98791247
Pair ban blockers, limit the number of vanilla cards per level to a max of 4. Just generally limit the numbers of blockers and aggro bullshit card so people would actually be forced to play the other cards
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>>98799511
>>98799523
I don't play it, but I could have sworn I've seen an anon post a card or two with one of them on it.
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>>98797898
>>98798026
I'm at chapter 12. Wtf bros, this is really good. This shit actually made me pull the trigger to order a premodern deck I've been on the fence about for 3 years
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>>98779242
it's just too easy to grab tempo and never let go of it, "blocking = not playing" is how the game is perceived, and there are matches where all you do is block
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>>98799938
>"blocking = not playing"
This is such a cringe aggro-brain take from the playerbase. Fatigue games are just as (if not more) skill intensive as playing your aggro combo. Blocking is just a big a factor as attacking is in FaB
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>>98797135
new spoilers up btw
>www.plaidhatgames.com/news/2026/10/07/illusion-magic-expansion-preview-3/

I like this fucking dude. looks like a jrpg nightmare monster
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i've got a gundam event on saturday. do i play GP aggro or BR strike freedome burn bullshit?
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>>98799020
aura
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>>98798553
think about it: the japanese have never made a well balance video game
modern card games are mostly trying to ape video game thinking
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bro please stop blocking my fucking attacks and just let me win omg ;_;
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>>98799937
You should tell Wizards of the Coast that. Maybe they'll greenlight an anime adaptation after realizing it will make them money.
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Read em and weep boys
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>>98800666
it's not gonna pay off lmfao
Ass card not even playable
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>>98799533
yes it's an excellent starting point
also look out for frostmage vs lavamancer coming next month
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>>98799542
Based. Yeah, if you can set up unit testing where you can just describe the gamestate as json (or, you can just load arbitrary gamestates as a list of zones->content), then it's super easy to verify stuff.
Especially when you're doing hundreds (or thousands) of cards, making sure something works without needing to fiddle around with it in your engine to double check is very based.
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>>98800666
I'm already weeping for this thread, playing is deceased.
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>>98801392
r u dumb
do u even kno what those r
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>>98801603
Satan's portfolio of dust exclusive hoarded cardboard?
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>>98779242
its way too fucking expensive , the playerbase are tech bro types
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>>98801606
what does that have to do with "playing is deceased"
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>>98801731
because you never once talk about anything involving the game, just expanding your collecting. How are you this stupid and also apparently wealthy?
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>>98800651
0 percent chance wokoids of the coast could manage an anime without butchering it into something horrid.
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>>98792526
If low cost vanilla beaters are breaking your game your game is made wrong.
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>Sorcery
>Zex
The grid is too good bros, I can't go back to 1d games. Are there any other multi-dimensional games I'm missing out on?

>>98800666
Checked and based
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>>98801901
Based persecutor.
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>>98801901
The old Naruto TCG and Eikonic in the making which is pretty much a remake of it.
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>>98797898
I miss when magic was good. Back when the best cards were from Urza's block not the newest Modern Horizon, before whale packs, and before fortniteification.

I'm still chasing the high of DTK standard in every /acg/ I play, and haven't found it (though riftbound gets close as of latest set).
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>>98800133
I recommend playing a different game. Bandaislop is garbage by design. See >>98799541
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>>98801901
Warlord. It technically was revived but the new owners did fuck all marketing or outreach so there's basically no players.



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