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>>98786507
>tq
They are annoying and retarded and gross, don’t let your players have a monopoly on that the so called 5E triad. Make them compete with goblins to be the shittiest creatures in your setting

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It might be worth asking here since you're the experts, but what's a good campaign to run for 5.5? I'm running it for coworkers and although they have fun, it's for sure more of a beer and pretzels game.

I pitched some of the heavy hitters like Curse of Strahd or Odyssey of the Dragonlords and they're not interested. They wanna kill things and be cool; but I'm more used to DMing for loooong form campaign (like I mentioned and some plot heavy original ones).

I don't wanna make it a succession of combat scenes so some plot is good but... Yeah. Nothin

How much of 5e's identity is tied to rolling to hit? I was playing Nimble a little bit ago and I really liked not having to worry about rolling to hit. You just roll your damage die and on a one you miss, and on a max result you roll another. I know rolling to hit is kind of iconic to D&D but is it really necessary?

>>98786529
These are 40k players thoughbeit

>>98787006
Run a short dungeon for them like Bad Apples. It'll let you know if it's a good fit in terms of the games you and the players want. I recommend level 3 as a starting point especially with 5.5e.

>>98787006
Go for something like a Monster of the Week kind of game.
Now don't go for adventurers' guild. they want to look cool and kick ass? Monster Hunters' Guild.
>Dinosaurs
>Werewolves
>Bulettes
>Trolls
>Ogres
The works my guy. they want to fight cool stuff and look good doing it? You should incentivise your players to describe their actions when they attack a monster and give them incentives for doing so, like appropriate outcomes for the action s they describe.
If a player is looking to grapple an Owlbear, ask him how he wants to do it in particular and give them something extra to go with the particulars of the action.

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>>98786507
>TQ

D&D workers are joining the Magic Arena guys who founded United WotC - CWA

>>98790297
If you stick some magnets on Gygax’s coffin, we could probably power a data center.

Speaking of goblins, does anyone know where I can get bulk goblin minis, monster minis in general, for cheap?

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>>98786507
>What is the best way to run goblins in 5e?
As cowardly faggots that will fight as a hoard but then immediately scatter and betray one another once 50% of their hoard dies.

Also the women are shortstacks to be bred

>>98786507
Killed 2 goblins last session
Was great

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I'd like to pick you guys' brains a little bit regarding the next arc of my on-going campaign.

The PCs are going on an expedition into the deep-ass, extremely dangerous Bayou to look for a long forgotten artifact (the spear of an old Emperor). I would like some ideas on how to run the expedition so that it would actually be interesting and support player choice. My best idea so far was some kind of narratively-enhanced hexcrawl (where going into certain places would get the players involved with sub-storylines, like encountering a village of completely uncivilized elves, or coming into a tense cohabitation with a rival expedition).

The change I've already implemented is changing night rests to short rests, and making long rests require good shelter (like a garrison or a town) and 24 hours of rest. I feel like that could make even small non-combat encounters have some consequence.

Any ideas bros?

Bros the party artificer (a shaved bugbear from thay who managed to escape) was flirting with my character's mother figure/mentor (he's a dragonborn redemption paladin of bahamut, his mentor figure is a war cleric because I like narrative contrast and what not) they're both like late 30s/40s and my character is basically the dragonborn equivalent of a 20 year old.

Also the druid is a retard and got sprayed by a skunk for throwing a rock at it in the sewers.

>>98790539
Finally, gaygag does something that benefits society rather than harms it.

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Did they add any subclasses that do something with Constitution in 5.5? I wish they would do something interesting with that stat, you can build being a cool warrior using a variety of weapons with either strength or dexterity, or be a cool caster with the other stats, but constitution usually just means you can have more bad rolls and keep standing there. Maybe they could add a monk archetype that can breathe various elements or poisons and tie that to your constitution bonus.

>>98793669
I doubt it. Every time previous editions let you use Con for anything other than not-dying, it became the best stat by default

>>98793678
Same problem as dexterity and wisdom I guess, they're tied to something important if boring out of the gate so trying to do something interesting with them makes them too good.

>>98792758
Depending on what spells/equipment the PCs have access to, some additional resource drains could be environmental in nature. Risks of diseases, parasites, insects, spoiled food. Maybe a random "encounter" table with these tings, skill checks or player ingenuity encouraged to work through those issues.
PCs getting dragged into the middle of, and/or inadvertently starting, a tribal conflict is usually fun as well.
Also, will o wisps. Maybe the lights often found in the bayou have a distinct shade purely because these buggers are always trying to lure people to their deaths.

>>98793669
Would be neat, I still have fond memories of my CON SAD fighter, even if he was terrible.
Although I would hesitate to make a Monk the base with how MAD they are already, even if flavourwise it makes sense.

>>98793669
>Maybe they could add a monk archetype that can breathe various elements or poisons and tie that to your constitution bonus.
It should use Strength instead.

Archer Fighter just hitting level 4, Piercer or Sharpshooter?

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Have you ever dreamt of playing a druid? Or a warlock? Well, your dream just came true!

https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/2256-become-a-champion-of-azeroth-with-these-13-world

>>98794488
Sharpshooter

>>98794513
who the fuck asked for this? If people want to play world of warcraft they go play the fucking game. Why on earth does wotc think a collab like this would sell to anyone

>>98794513
>all shamans, including the caster specs, are barbarians
I hate being right

>want to be a martial
>want to be able to have access to SOME magics, at least utility wise.
struggling not to choose eldritch knight lads. Maybe I could do barbarian with like, ritual caster or something.

>>98790297
>make nothing but straight AI generated garbage for 3 years
>have the GALL to unionize

>>98794843
I know a guy who is a super hardcore Warcraftfag and also really likes DnD so i guess him

>>98794843
Literally everyone I know who plays both D&D and WoW is offended at the existence of this dreck. Granted, most of them consider WoW to be among their vices.

>>98794843
they were incredibly lazy about it, too. Warcraft elves don't even get any extra abilities, they just use the base PHB stats.

>>98786507
In your opinion, which species is tankier for an Abjurer Wizard from levels 3–5: Goliath with Stone’s Endurance, Orc with Adrenaline Rush, or Dwarf with Dwarven Resilience?

>>98795441
Good, elves are overtuned enough as is

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Are the sailing/ship rules in Ghosts of Saltmarsh/the general game good enough to base a campaign around?

>>98795827
I haven't heard great things, like a lot of damage just skip that part of the module

>>98794843
Figured you people would be numb to this shit by now. As far as all the lame ass official D&D crossovers we've had over the years this probably doesn't even reach into the top 5.
Besides, I'm sure a lot of Tiefling players are going to be happy they get to play actual Draenei instead of bootleg Draenei after all these years.

>>98796632
>Figured you people would be numb to this shit by now.
Genuinely nobody gives a fuck about Warcraft anymore, this collab could've moved fucking continents in the past but nowadays Blizzard is as widely despised as EA and WoW jumped headfirst off a cliff so they're 15 years to late.
Also, as you said, DnD itself is whoring itself out to any brand it can like a Puerto Rican prostitute nowadays so that further deminishes any excitement the collab might've had.

>>98794843
My current group originally got together through WoW (about 15 years ago).
We've played a few homebrewed or 3rd party Warcraft games through the years.
We all agree this is fucking retarded.
>hero classes are only available at level 3 or higher
Duh, all subclasses are at level 3 in 5.5.

>>98796632
Wouldn't Draenai be Aasimar?

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>>98781205
I don't hate War Domain personally, I just think its kinda mid as a full class.
>Spells
Half of these are already Cleric spells and the half that aren't only really have Steel Wind Strike and Hold Monster as standouts imo. These aren't bad spells its just okay.
>War Priest
This mechanic is better on a multiclassed Rogue than a pure Cleric. You have to invest in both WIS and STR or DEX to be able to really get any consistent use out of this. If you have a ton of bonus action uses or if you're using Light weapons then I just don't see you using this much or worst case, you use it and miss because your STR/DEX isn't all that high. Still its not a bad feature, especially since you can just do it as BA instead of setting up something as a part of an Action, its just not the best. I'm not big on new Spiritual Weapon due to concentration, but that spell generally seems like a better use of BA than this.
>Guided Strike
+10 Basically means you turn a miss into a hit if it's not a natural 1. The reaction cost to use it on an ally is expensive if its even worth using then (You could be casting Shield via Magic Initiate). You basically would use this only to boost a missed high damage attack roll, which is usually spells. You may use it on yourself if you are making an attack with Guiding Bolt or one of your Steel Wind Strike attacks? Eh..
>War God's Blessing
Actually good! Concentrationless Shield of Faith is good. Spiritual Weapon concentrationless would be good like 3 levels ago, right now its kinda not good, but its probably better than War Priest for a pure Cleric. Remember the Spiritual Weapon cast with this feature is always cast at level 2, you cannot upcast it.
>Avatar of Battle
Great...assuming you're fighting creatures that deal BPS damage at level 17.

I'd rather play a Cleric that gets better survivability or can grant allies more attacks than this. Spirit Guardian + True Strike should do it for any Cleric.

>>98797553
Not really. They aren't an innately holy race, they just look demonic because they were retconned into being the racial origin of one of the notable demon races.

is it normal for people to adapt the same character over and over again regardless of setting? im toying with a secondary campaign just to build out my main game a bit and half of the players are just retrofitting their existing evergreen pc's to work within the game. they're just friends of friends so i dont have to deal with this in my core group thankfully, but i cant help but see this new cast as a sort of bad omen for things to come. perhaps its just an ego injury because of how theyve mostly been ignoring all the fun new campaign-specific toys to play with, but i still just dont know how i feel about it. i for one would never be caught dead reusing characters 1:1

>>98798576
>is it normal for people to adapt the same character over and over again regardless of setting?
I've seen a few people do it. They were all terrible players. I tell people to make a character that fits the specific setting.

>>98798576
I don’t think it’s a dealbreaker or anything but it’s definitely unusual to have half to table doing it.

>>98798576
I've seen it in people whose roleplaying experiences started in MMOs, where having a "main" that you stick with over years is more of an expectation. Generally, after getting a few games under their belts, they'll start to explore a bit more.

I've also found that they'll generally be receptive to you engaging with the character adaptation process and pointing out the setting-specific toys that are relevant to their characters. I had one guy whose precious OC was a WoW high elf warrior that didn't fit at all into the setting we were playing in, but the actual underlying character was one we were able to adapt to a completely different race from a completely different culture just by talking about the character himself, what motivated him, and what kind of specific capabilities were core to his concept.

So i never played Ranger before i kinda want to try Hollow Warden because of the dark theme of the subclass is Strenght ranger viable for this subclass? or i should just play the new emo fighter that dropped this month

>>98794513
i wonder if disciple domain will make playing healer cleric fun as it was with order domain

>>98799759
>MMOs, where having a "main" that you stick with over years is more of an expectation
Imagine not being a wizard main

>>98792758
use Tomb of Annihililation Death Curse as basis to create a threat that can happen and will make players keep on their toes
one time i did a oneshot in a domain of dread that players were only able to sleep in a Dream druid dome because the dread lord didn't allowed people in his domain to sleep, and the dream druid was an fey npc that wasn't guaranteed to help the party due to it's fey tricks

>>98799759
I've played with my FFXIV character in a Out Of The Abyss game, i have adapted him to fit dnd since Final Fantasy is waaay diferent from DnD
the DM really loved my character that he gifted me an art of him at the end of the campain
i've made Roegadyn>Goliath and White Mage>Life Domain

>>98798576
I've only seen one player across my various groups do similar. He said his character was one he's come up with previously, commissioned art for and played in a previous game that fizzled out early. I would personally always create a character for a game, but this guy's a good roleplayer and engages with the game normally.

>>98798576
I've had players that want to play the same archetypes for sure, but not 1:1 and never everyone at once. Have you brought it up to them?

>>98798576
>ego injury because of how theyve mostly been ignoring all the fun new campaign-specific toys to play with
Some of this can also just be an accessibility issue. they might not know where to start, or how to probe your setting for the information they want. It's why I think most drow players, even in homebrew, just default to matriarchy good - they have no idea about the intricacies of your Drow but The Drow are that way in the book, so it gets pasted over. It happens with other races too, obviosuly but the drow are the ones I think it's most obvious to see with.

Just ask them about it or present them with a little primer for setting specific information. No one likes homework but you could probably shove it in as a session zero / character creation fluff piece and keep them engaged with it.

>>98799847
>is Strength ranger viable for [Hollow Warden]?
It's the only Ranger that makes it even an option without running even harder into your MAD issues.

what are the reasons you anons have stuck with 5e/5.5e instead of any of the osr games that are so popular right now?

>>98801102
Because my choices aren’t dictated by a popular vote.

>>98801102
the group I'm playing with still doesn't know many of the rules of DND after 3 years (on and off).I don't think some of the players are ready for anything more complex .
We did get a campaign going on DC20 but the devellopment of it so goddam slow we went back to dnd. I liked what I saw of DC20 back then so I'm a bit curious about how it evolved but when even the dedicated subreddit is criticizing the dev speed, it's not looking good

>>98801102
Because it's the system we've been using for our campaign going on 5 years now. Why would we change it?

>>98801102
I always run non-DnD games, one of my players asked if I wanted to play in their first game and they chose to run 5.5e.

Any clue as to what subclasses will be added through Greyhawk?

>>98801102
Well, I don't know anyone who's interested in OSR-style games, but none of the other systems we've tried have caused us to want to stop playing D&D.
Actually, we did try Shadowdark at a con once and that was enjoyable enough.

>>98801102
Because I'm not the one running the campaign I'm playing in. I've never given money to WotC in my life and my party is otherwise undeterred by their efforts to make D&D as sterile as possible and rebrand it as the progressive gay nigger faggot retard rpg since the DM just picks and chooses what material he wants to use or otherwise makes his own.

>>98801102
>osr games that were popular 10 years ago
Fixed that for you.

>>98801102
I didn't.
I DM 5E because my players like it.
I prefer Pathfinder 1 but I am seriously considering going back to BECMI.

What are some useful third party books? I'm running 5.5e, but if what makes the book good isn't too dependent on 5.0 Vs 5.5, I'm fine with 5e recs.

>>98802130
Shadowdark is fun, but isn't suited for longer campaigns.

>>98802503
In general, or as compared to other OSR games?

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>>98802502
Here are my favorites
>Valda's Spire of Secrets
Good list of new classes and 150 subclasses. Light in tone generally but fun.
>Monster manual expanded
Many variant options for monsters and like lieutenants etc for monstrous races.
>Tome of beats, creature codexes
More monster options, all very good
>Flee Mortals
The best of the alternative monster manuals, every monster feels unique and was clearly well playtested. They are usually rather complex though and take some thought as the DM.
>The Armorer’s Handbook: Equipment Upgrade and Rune Magic System
Gives an alternative option for magic items and equipment. Something for the party to sink their money into. Runes for weapons and armor are also pretty good.

I usually focus on DM facing tools which rarely care about edition. I choose either 5e or 5.5e monsters depending on what I like more. Some 5.5e monsters feel particularly shit compared to their old versions, like the basilisk. Given how many alternative monster manuals I use the players can't just google what they're fighting and know all their abilities and stats.

>>98802548
Both. It's a fun gimmick, but that's pretty much all it is.

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How do I get 5etools to remove all the duplicate versions of items like this?

>>98803213
You need to turn off the "Specific Variant" filter.

>>98801102
Because my biggest complaints about D&D as a system is its too low powered and it lacks mechanical rigor and OSR is that times ten. I enjoy OSR, for a particular experience, but its not my preference in RPGs. I usually don't play D&D at all, but when I do 5e functions and unlike 3.X doesn't make me want to punch a wall every time I have a PC do something I don't have a feat for.

>>98765543
>>98780884
ai checker sites are pretty good actually

you can also just directly ask google ai or chatgpt and they'll check for the signature of images made by them

>>98802130
>>98802503
>>98802548
>>98802659
I don't really agree that it can't do long form campaigns, I assume the gimmick is the torch timer which itself isn't exactly unique. Overall it should be as capable of handling a long campaign as any other OSR game is. Amusingly the biggest gripes I see outside of this place is that it's too much like 5e.

>>98803865
No, the system itself is the gimmick. It's ruleslite 5e, which is saying something.

>>98801102
My group play 5.5e, fate core and savage worlds

>>98786507
How retarded would it be to be a Vestige Warlock going down Pact of the Blade? My idea is a Reborn Warlock being a soldier brought back by his past leader who now is his Vestige Lich or some shit and they fight together side by side

>>98804167
Seems quite solid actually. You get access to a handful of Domains, so you can grab War and get Spirit Guardians going.
Aside from that, Cursed Invocation lets you make yourself more dodgy for a tough fight. And the Vestige can also pretty reliably just be sitting back and using your Bonus Action to dish out extra damage.

Overall Pact of the Blade is pretty improved with 2024, and from what I've seen Vestige is very solid as a Warlock subclass in general.

>>98804167
>>98804253
Can flavor the Spirit Guardians as the souls of his comrades too for extra kino

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>>98794843
Blizzbucks are some of the most cucked consoomers in existence. The fact that they're paying for WoW subscriptions all these years later, and picking up more to GO HOME!!!! to classic, should be all the proof you need.

Can Pact of the Blade conjure more esoteric melee weapons, like the psychic blades of a Soulknife? I'm not saying that's a good idea, I want to know if it's legal.

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>>98786507
>still no barbarian subclass that thrives on pain and getting hit
Lame

>>98805633
Well, there's zealot barb. That's probably the closest fit at least thematically.
Unfortunately WotC also got rid of the free rez feature because no fun allowed.

>>98801102
Because having fun with friends and socializing IRL is more important than whatever artificial purity OSR autists lay claim to.
The system matters far less than a bunch of 4chan nogames faggots pretend

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What do you guys think, should Detect Magic be able to sense Invisible creatures? I feel like Detect Magic already has great mileage in detecting stuff and tell you the school of magic, and it seems silly to me that a level 1 spell and totally negate a level 2 spell but I want to hear from you.

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I wish fighters could dress like sluts like barbarians, but we have to wear ugly armor.

>>98806318
just be a dex based fighter, get dex to 20 and wear sexy studded leather armor, you AC will only be 1 off from plate mail.

>>98806293
>What do you guys think, should Detect Magic be able to sense Invisible creatures?
As the spell is written, it would allow you to sense something invisible, provided that source of invisibility was magic.
It wouldn't, however, let you pinpoint the invisible object. You can only see an aura around the source of magic if it's visible, and you otherwise just get a sense that something magic is within 30 feet of you.

I wouldn't classify it as much different than Detect Evil and Good clueing you in to the presence of a Poltergeist who was sitting invisibly in a room. Or Detect Poison being used to sense the Assassin hiding nearby with their poisoned weapons.
In all of these cases, the amount of information you glean via the level 1 spell is rather minimal. Especially since, if the PC is casting one of those spells, that means they're already suspicious about a potential danger.

The end result being that, if the PCs are paranoid about the right thing and cast the right spell, then at best they avoid being Surprised.

>>98806318
I'm surprised we don't get a unarmed defense fighting style but then again it's wotc, we are not allowed to have fun with martials

>>98806318
That image looks bad.

Munckin 5.5E is announced.
I’d post a picture but whatever format it is in doesn’t mesh with 4chan.

>>98806913
Then you open it in paint and save it as a jpeg, unless you are a filthy phoneposter.

>>98807026
My phoneposting client has image re-encoding options
>open it in paint
*use an ImageMagick command to re-encode with your preferred settings

I know "play a system designed for this instead of trying to torture 5e into doing it" is the classic complaint, but I cannot imagine a sprinkling of comedy mechanics in D&D will get you anywhere satisfying.

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>>98806293
I've always felt Detect Magic is one of those things that should be built into magic using classes. If you fuck with magic why wouldn't you be able to sense it as a matter of course? You could then play around with different classes having unique ways of using and modifying that ability.

However, rather than simply uncover the magic, you get a good idea of it's general direction and flavor but I would go the extra step in that you can use your different sense to detect magic.

So yes, you could literally lick a magic item and try and figure out what kind of magic it has.

For some reason Raise Dead doesn't have the old age exception the other spells do. What happens if you raise someone who dies of old age?

>>98807577
Why would it be any different if they died of natural causes? It's not like they have a say in the matter unlike ressurection where the one getting brought back to life and refuse to come back.

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>>98806293
>What do you guys think, should Detect Magic be able to sense Invisible creatures?
Not anymore than it does, that is to say I would tell a player "There is a feeling of magic somewhere in the area, but it isn't in view to discern the class of magic nor exact location."
This could mean something's invisible nearby, or it could be something magical behind a false wall, or something is in a character's pocket they can't see. From there players can investigate and probe to find out more info in character through actions they do.

Detect Magic is useful enough that it doesn't need to invalidate a more specialist oriented spell that's a higher level than it.

>>98802558
>The Armorer’s Handbook: Equipment Upgrade and Rune Magic System
Isn't this just Pathfinder

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>>98807860
I don't play Pathfinder but I doubt it's the same.

Is there anything like the Reconstructed prestige class for 5e Artificer?

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>>98807923
>Brutal
Jesus, people really learned nothing from the d2 crusader, huh?

>>98808429
Are there any d2 weapons in 5e though?

>>98786507
Does Nystul's Magic Aura not give you the benefits of the chosen Creature type? If you had Construct as the chosen creature type then Hold Person wouldn't work on you or if you were an Ooze creature type then getting blinded by a spell wouldn't work
I used the spell on the Cleric and chose Fiend for him but the DM said lightning damage projected by a Demon wasn't going to be cut in half because the spell is referring to specific spells like Magic Circle, so I'm guessing choosing Fiend doesn't grant fire resistance?
What spells get countered by Magic's Aura because otherwise the spell doesn't have much function
>"You could use it to disguise yourselves"
The Demons immediately knew the Cleric was actually a Cleric because they smelled the godly stuff on him. The Cleric got his chest caved in and had to be revived immediately afterwards

>>98786507
>group insists on using DnD Beyond
This is unironically one of the worst apps I've ever used. It feels like every single button press causes a shit ton of unoptimized server callbacks and verifications. Why does anyone put up with this hunk of dogshit when even the devs clearly don't want people to use it? Are normies really that adverse to using 5etools and paper?

>>98809167
>so I'm guessing choosing Fiend doesn't grant fire resistance?
no, you don’t actually become the chosen type. it’s an illusion spell. you just appear to be that type to spells and magical effects that target certain types.
>The Demons immediately knew the Cleric was actually a Cleric because they smelled the godly stuff on him.
that’s a disappointing decision by the dm. that’s exactly what the spell is supposed to protect against.

>>98809209
>you just appear to be that type to spells and magical effects that target certain types.
So I don't get damage resistance, okay that would be too much and hard to keep track of since Demons and Devils have their own unique things going on.
What about spells like Holding Person, so if I'm an Ooze and someone uses a spell that targets Humanoids, does the illusion do anything or is it just like with damage resistance?
I ask because I'm playing a Caster and want to try other spells other than the usual AoE spells. Been looking to give my crew some slight edge while my Summons play meat shield

>>98809167
>The Demons immediately knew the Cleric was actually a Cleric because they smelled the godly stuff on him. The Cleric got his chest caved in and had to be revived immediately afterwards
If the Demons were using some type of magical effect or thing to make this happen, then that's a bad call. This should have blocked their ability to sense that the Cleric was not a demon. However- it looks like the demons were not able to detect the Cleric being a human but they did notice the objects on them. I'm curious if you could have used Magic Aura on the objects to False Aura them and make them appear as Necromantic items maybe fool them that way? Disguise Self + Magic Aura?

>>98809220
They just sort of, figured it out? They noticed pretty quickly and went right after him

>>98809219
>What about spells like Holding Person, so if I'm an Ooze and someone uses a spell that targets Humanoids, does the illusion do anything or is it just like with damage resistance?
Correct, it does protect you against Hold Person. Magic Aura specifically helps you avoid effects and targets from spells and magical abilities that specifiy your creature type:
If you are a Humanoid and are protected by a Magic Aura (Ooze) spell. You are untargetable by Hold Person, Charm Person, Dominate Person, and Reincarnation because these specify a Humanoid as the target, but you due to Magic Aura are viewed as an Ooze for the purposes of Spells and Magic Effects. This spell is also well known to have some *interesting* implications with certain spells. For example, if you cast Summon Dragon, then cast Magic Aura (Celestial) on the Dragon, that Dragon is now a legal target for stuff that targets Celestials specifically- like Planar Binding. Or if you made it Humanoid someone could target it with Magic Jar or Dominate Person.
>>98809225
Hm. Its worth pointing out that Magic Aura doesn't change you visually at all. You still look the same, you just pick up differently for magic/spells.

Played 5.5e, played pf2e. The level ups in both of these systems suck. I kind of preferred pf2e's tight magic but the class and race feats are terrible there too and magic/ranged fucking sucks. Asi at 4 in 5e is just mandatory and you only get fun stuff every 4 levels thereafter. What system is the best in your opinion? I heard 4e was good. 13th age?

>>98809249
I personally prefer the customization autism of pf1e, but all the people I play with do 5e so I have to just deal with it

>>98809262
Am I sleeping on pf1e? Isn't it just dnd 3.5? None of these systems have video games and I am friendless so running a game to see if I like it and can gather my thoughts on the systems is impossible
I have come to prefer pf2e but goddamn that shit needs homebrew. Feats are ass and magic needs buffing badly.

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>>98809240
>if you cast Summon Dragon, then cast Magic Aura (Celestial) on the Dragon, that Dragon is now a legal target for stuff that targets Celestials specifically- like Planar Binding.
Thank you. This is amazing. I'm going to keep this in the back of my mind for the next session

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>>98809275
I won't lie, pulling that specific combo off will require your Cleric to be 10 Levels into Cleric. Only because Planar Binding takes 1 Hour to cast normally which would break concentration on the Summon, but your Cleric buddy could use their Divine Intervention to instantly Action cast Planar Binding bypassing the 1 Hour Cast time to get themelves a Dragon for 24 Hours no concentration from anyone. If you ever get the Wish spell you can do that with Wish too, but even better cause with that you can instantly cast Planar Binding at 8th level! That's 180 Days of concentration less Dragon buddy. Then you can do it again the next day, and the next day, and the next day...

>>98809267
>Isn't it just dnd 3.5?
It's a decent comparison.
My brother in christ, there's Kingmaker(havent played) and Wrath of the Righteous (imo it's good) for pf1e

>>98809267
>>98809333
Fucked up my post, the Kingmaker and WotR comments were in response to
>None of these systems have video games

>>98809169
site is slow as shit but for new players it's good. The choices come in order, are well detailed and the character sheet is easy to use

Looking at a pact of the blade warlock without going hexblade. Should I take a 1 lvl dip into fighter for medium armor and shields, or do some shit like picking up defensive duelist with an off-hand dagger and leaning on that to not die?

>>98809345
>The choices come in order,
Idk man, picking your class before your background seems ass backwards to me.

>>98809366
for me too but many players choose a class/subclass they want to play and then decide to build their character around it. Even more so with 5.5e, the background becomes a mechanical choice
it. Just like the rest of DnD, the storytelling is put in the background in favor of combat

>>98809375
I get knowing what class you want to play first, but from a mechanical perspective the first thing you establish and choose options for should be your race and background. Everything else builds on top of those choices

What kind of retard picks a background before picking a class?
>5eg
Oh yeah

>>98809436
that's true when you have a character concept that is a story, but many have a character concept that is a either a flavor or a mechanic; and race + background is secondary to the class in that aspect
I love doing the chronogical progression too but let's be real, most peoples are like "I want to play a revenge paladin, now I just need to find what happened that makes him want to take revenge"

>>98809452
>>98809455
Again, has nothing to do with story. If X race and Y background provide a guaranteed feat, skill proficiency, or trait, then it makes more sense to start with those limited building blocks before going into things that have more varied options. You take care of the simple shit first before going into the more complex modular things.

A better solution would be to just move skills and feats into a completely separate tab from class/background/race that inherits the choices available from the previous selections. That way it bypasses issues like choosing your skill proficiencies from your class, finding a background with a feat you want, and having to backtrack to the class page to redo your skill choices because the ones you chose were the only choices available from that background that were relevant to your character/build/concept

>>98809523
What kind of retard doesn't make and write a custom background?
>5eg
Oh yeah

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Bruuuh... I just got kicked from my four month old campaign because I mentioned how I didn't like Matt Mercer and thought he was creepy. Why are American GMs so fucking cultish? Matt isn't going to come down from heaven and bless your games just because you suck his dick on the internet. I'm fuming... I was genuinely having fun with these sessions.

>>98809167
>Does Nystul's Magic Aura not give you the benefits of the chosen Creature type?
There's no such thing in 5e. Most demons resist Cold/Fire/Lightning while most Devils are immune to Fire, but that isn't all of the Fiends in the game. As of 2024, Gnolls are the easiest example.

The spell is incredibly niche in its applications.

>>98809523
let's be real, race is mostly flavor at this point, the perks are minimaly impactful so switching it around doesn't matter. and most players are clearly playing "what's the coolest", hence why elves, half elves are among the most played but not dwarves

>>98810384
>but not dwarves
Gimli may be a popular character, but imagine playing a fantasy game and choosing to be a manlet

>>98810505
I love playing dwarves, you're tanky, have a usually nice lore and flavourful features (I might be the only player using tremorsense or the bonus to history checks involving stone but fuck is it nice). I also like that they are not magical, hate that about tieflings and elves.
I wouldn't be surprised that me being quite tall also plays a part with that since I have no complex, but I can't stand halflings and gnomes either so I guess not ?

>>98809714
with practice, you’ll learn to hide your power level better, anon.

>>98809329
Wouldn't the binding potentially wear off when the magic aura does? Or do you just keep reapplying the aura before 24 hours are up since it's just a 2nd level spell.

>>98811186
After a month of daily applying the Aura lasts until dispelled.

>>98809714
>kicked for simply having a contrary opinion
there is never a time where anyone has said this that they haven't been omitting details they were actually kicked out for.

>>98809714

>4 months
>still can't read the room

>>98811537
This one time I got kicked from a table for gently and politely reminding the DM how the rules went. Another I was kicked from for just asking questions.

>>98811630
Yeah everyone says shit like that then you ask someone else who was there and they go "no he was kicked for calling the GM a retard."

>>98809452
>>98809548
You're welcome to fuck off to your own general

Hey guys! You know what would be funny?
What if the weekly session was canceled two times in a row again!
You know what would be even funnier ...

>>98812298
I'm on week four. One faggot has a family emergency every week, allegedly.

>>98811630
Sounds like reasonable enough reasons to kick a player to me.

>>98812211
Alright, fucked off back to here. Now what, ya nogames retard?

>>98811630
>>98809714
I and everyone else here believe this is a fair and complete summary of the situation

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So I have a session 1 starting tomorrow, and im kinda worried about the progression of the plot. Its a standard start, 3 player party meet in a tavern, shit happens and they will be compelled to investigate, which spirals into the main plot. My problem is that I want to plan ahead without railroading too much. They start in a tavern, cultists come in and try to kill and kidnap who they can, the party fights and stops them (or dies, 2 of the players are...not good, 3rd player is a DM himself and actually knows what hes doing.), town guards find and question them post-fight, Captain of the guard briefs them on ongoing cult activity, charges them with eradicating the cult, then....what? Do i just react solely to what the players do? How am I supposed to handle them taking action thats completely out of left field and not what I planned for?

>>98813363
Well, ideally, one of the players being a DM will help to steer the party towards actually dealing with local problems.

That said, at a glance, it does feel a bit questionable.
>people who met for the first time ever sitting in a tavern
>cultists break in and start stabbing people
>town guard shows up too late to do anything
>tells the three randoms who were just attacked that it's their job to deal with the cult now
I could absolutely see a player deciding that the town guard was the most suspicious there. Perhaps agreeing to the captain's request to keep up pretenses, but then seeking to skip town since it seems like the cult and the guard are in cahoots.
The guards threatening to arrest them won't help if the cultists are kidnapping people.

My suggestion would instead by that the party has already been hired. Have them escorting some merchant or similar VIP, who has promised them the rest of their payment in the morning after they finish their delivery or secure the funds from whatever contact they came to the town to visit.
Then, have the merchant gone in the middle of the night, being kidnapped by cultists. If you still want to have a fight with cultists in the tavern, then you could have the innkeeper or one of the other guests/staff be in on the conspiracy, calling for reinforcements once it's clear that the PCs are going to investigate the merchant's room and try to solve his disappearance.

This immediately sets the PCs on the trail of the investigation with the promise of a reward, alongside a reason to work together. It also gives them some potential locals they can trust in the form of the merchant's contact.
From there, you have a town full of clues that should hopefully point them towards whatever dungeon the cultists hides out in. Though you don't want to be solely reactive, in the sense that that the cultists won't just sit in their dungeon never doing anything until prompted.

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>Monk who has powerful fire powers.
What would you play to best match this vibe? Which is the most fun?
Ascendant Dragon Monk [Fire] and flavoring all features with a fire theme.
Four Elements Monk who exclusively uses Fire and flavors all features with a fire theme.
Mystic Arts Monk with Fire damage spells and everything flavored with fire themes.

>>98813449
I'd personally go for Dragon. You're dealing Fire damage all the time with your punches, and you get proficiency bonus uses of your breath weapon for free. It's also done as part of your attack action, so it enables your bonus action punches and works with Extra Attack.

Elements has to wait for an AoE at level 6 and gives up attacking to do it, and otherwise doesn't feel very fiery when you're just pushing people around with your punches.

Mystic Arts has to wait until level 6 to reliably deal Fire damage as part of its regular attacks, and even then is reliant on Green-Flame Blade for it to really be better than just punching.
You are effectively a short rest caster once you hit level 6, but even then damaging Fire spells don't keep pace well with the levels you're getting access. Searing Smite would improve this greatly, but making the stats work for a Paladin multiclass is messy. Best spread I can find is 13/16/12/8/14/13.

All of which is to say, Dragon is definitely going to be the most reliably fun and consistent. Less worrying about multiclassing, ability scores, etc. and more tossing out a big wave of fire and then punching whoever is left standing with a burning fist.

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>>98813449
I'd probably have the most amount of fun with a Mystic Arts option cause I like spells.
>Cantrips
Sorcerous Burst (Fire) or Fire Bolt
Blade Ward (Protective Will o Wisp)
Elementalism

>1st Level
Absorb Elements
Shield (Fire Barrier)
Jump (Fire Jets)
Burning Hands
Fog Cloud


>2nd Level
Misty Step (Fire Teleport)
Flaming Sphere
Blur or Mirror Image (Heat Mirages)
See Invisibility (Heat Sensing)
Hold Person (Flame Bindings)
Scorching Ray or Aganazzar's Scorcher

>3rd Level
Fireball
Fly (Continuous Fire Jets)
Fear or Hypnotic Pattern (Heat Hallucinations)
Ashardalon's Stride

>4th Level
Fire Shield
Wall of Fire

Some downside is that you don't have any fire punches like Ascendant Dragon and Four Elements do at level 3. Level 19 you could get Conjure Minor Elementals (which you can cast 1/day for free and use your spell slots) and Fog Cloud with Boon of Magic School Mastery all of which sounds neat. There's probably other spells that you could swap for and flavor with the fire stuff that I'm not immediately thinking of.

I started playing a dnd campaign some years ago which we're still continuing and my dm wanted me to host a campaign on the side so he could play for once. I was excited for that so I prepped up something after a one shot and it's been great, lots of learning as a dm and making mistakes but it's okay. I expected to host my campaign every other weekend so people would have time for personal stuff too.
It's been a year and a half and we've only done 12 sessions in total and one level up. First 4 sessions were very consistent, but then people started canceling and since spring we've been sitting at a rate of one session every two months. It wouldn't be that bad if it weren't for the fact that the sessions are usually cancelled the day prior or even 4 hours before, so I effectively can't plan anything for that day. I also feel the need to convert my campaign to an episodic format because I imagine it's hard to get invested into the plot. But the worst of all is the itch to play. I could play with others or even randoms, but I never know if there might be a day when everyone's available. It's the lack of consistency that really bothers me.
So idk what to do. I feel like it'd be better to just agree on a day that works every week, but that will just kill the campaign since there's no feeling that there should be a session on weekends.

How do Vestige warlocks talk/interact with their patron, since it sounds like the companion is supposed to be your patron? The companion appears to be able to speak, so are all interactions with the patron verbal after hitting level 3? If not, does anything stop the warlock from having the companion fuck off to a neighboring town and act as a living telephone between you and people there? Is the patron effectively an imprisoned power source for your magic abilities with no agency if you dismiss the companion and never bring it back out?

>>98813962
>Is Vestige Pact warlock retarded?
Yes.

I had an idea for a campaign where there is a apostle of dark god offering (dubious) resurrection to anybody to gain followers so their God can gain power.
We can start the campaign with every PC having an item that acts as a catalyst for their adventure in their backstory and later to be revealed that the items were brought there by another god to stop the evil one.
Every dead PC becomes a new minion for the evil god.
Alas, I am not a DM and have no time to prep sessions these days...

>pg 8
ded thred
ded gam

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Hear me out. Italian-American drow underdark campaign

>Fuck you, Lolth
>OH!
>AY!

>>98814694
I've found it's best to front load your cool ideas for campaigns these days. A lot of campaigns die quickly. Such is the nature of being an adult rather than at school.

>>98815809
I make my drow Australian since they're criminals from down under who are used to giant venomous spiders

>>98817088
Fair cop.

>>98817088
I really play up the dommy mommy theme with drow. I regularly have an extremely sexy drow lady in the games.

>>98786507
I had't thought about Goblins in awhile. But I'm not surprised he's a tranny in the woods now. Shame he did that to the wife and kid.

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>>98817311
What happened exactly???

What's the ETA for the new WoW book hitting 5e tools? I want to see what they've done for the shaman and rogue subclasses

>>98819972
A month

>>98786507
>>98791246
>>98791663
>>98817311
That meme comic that gets posted about goblins is not an accurate summary of the story at all. It's a total strawman.

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Always wanted to play a barbarian zealot so drew this fella, going to play dragons stormwreck isle and apparently we've already had one player soil a big secret

>>98786507
Reborn Undead Warlock, Level 3 Invocations: Pact of the Chain, Agonizing Blast, and Eldritch Mind.
A 2-meter-tall, pale Reborn with long black hair and white eyes. He always has a familiar around to remind him when to breathe, blink, and make facial expressions.
Thoughts on this character concept?

>>98822377
Not too related to roleplay, but Zealot Barbarians hit really hard mechanically. I ran the numbers, and they actually stay very close to Berserkers until level 11 (I haven't really bothered calculating beyond that).
I honestly thought they were weaker than that, but they manage to stay competitive with the subclass that deals the most damage in the game while still being able to heal themselves. Pretty cool.

are there any resources you anons recommend for domain level play and even BECMI type stuff like achieving godhood etc?

>Preserve life can restore up to half an ally's HP
Jesus Christ, that’s brutally lame. I used to think it meant you couldn’t heal a character for more than half their HP, like if a rogue has 30 HP, I could only heal them for up to 15. But now I realize it actually means I can’t heal them for MORE than half their HP. I’m disappointed, man. This feature is so much weaker than I thought it was going to be. And I’ve already created my character and gotten really invested in the roleplay of being a Life Cleric, too.
I guess it’s not that bad if you use it to bring an ally back from 0 HP, but it still sucks in pretty much every other situation. I was hoping I’d be able to use the feature outside of combat, but it’s basically useless for that.

>>98817184
Do you prefer drow as antagonists or have you run an Underdark game where you play as drow?

>>98824963
>I’ve already created my character and gotten really invested in the roleplay of being a Life Cleric
Invested in being the literal dedicated heal bitch?
But yeah, rookie mistake. Welcome to no fun allowed edition anon. Should have picked grave cleric instead.

>warlock
>magic initiate (Cleric)
>Magic Connoisseur for Prayer of Healing
>can get back to full power in just 10 minutes once per day after running out of spell slots
>group healing/support on top as a bonus
Neato

>>98825904
my biggest grip with the celestial warlock. why the fuck does it regenreate its healing light pool on a long rest when the whole point of the warlock is short rests

>>98825982
See, I’m the other way around—I feel like classes with core mechanics that recharge on a long rest should have subclass features that recharge on a short rest, while classes with core mechanics that recharge on a short rest should have subclass features that recharge on a long rest. That way, everyone’s incentivized to care about every kind of rest.

Unfortunately, WotC doesn’t share my vision.

>>98826112
>many 'short rest' classes have subclasses features tied to long rests, and long rest ones have short rest features to mitigate the need (Arcane Recovery shouldn't even exist)
>the "resourceless" classes' subclasses are almost all resource based
>all martial classes have spell casting subclasses, most casting classes have martial oriented subclasses
I don't know man, wotc seems fairly open to your idea (and anything that kills the uniqueness/specifities of a class in general)

>>98826183
Arcane Recovery is a bad example because it directly circumvents the core mechanic being based on long rests. I’m saying that the stuff you get from subclasses that distinguishes you from other members of the same base class should be on the other type of rest so that the mechanical expression of character options is distributed less uniformly.

>>98826195
>in the poster child of short rest class, every patrons except for the GOO have their features tied to long rest. Every fighter subclasses except the champion do the same
>only 2 wizard subclass have perks on shortrests, none for the sorcerer
wotc nerfing non full casters again, how surprising
god I hate having to play dnd because no one in my teams wants to learn a new game (they barely know dnd anyway and take an hour to do a round of combat)

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>>98823946
>What are your hopes for psionics in 5E?
>I'm hoping there are psicrystals and a psionics system that actually uses power points.

>>98828206
I just want a return to 3.5 psionics. I find 5e just never does it justice.

>>98828206
It's literally just spellcasting in 5e. Not "like spellcasting", like in 3.5, but the actual Spellcasting class feature.

you guys think discipline domain will be a good class for peope that enjoy heals? or it will be just a missed oportunity
i had a blast playing order cleric to turn heals and other buffs into value with voice of authority

First time dm finishing up phandelver soon, looking to go into storm kings after but have heard chapter 3 sucks? Any ideal way to run it or good guides to read?

Tell me why I shouldn't draw steel instead

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>running 5e game involved Shadowfell BBEG (because why not?)
>next adventure was going to involve going to shadowfell fortress to find artifact MacGuffin to help defeat BBEG
>beholder from nearby beholder kingdom (which PCs have been close to but never visited, so it's properly foreshadowed) was going to be there also, with his minions, looking for the artifact for his own reasons
>they are level 8 so a beholder is still decently scary for them and they would get a chance to spot his camp and be like "oh shit" and have to visit when he's not there or possibly confront him over the artifact
>this would be their first encounter with a non-zombie beholder
>......
>last session, one PC finally go to do something from their backstory and get a clue to where their missing family member is
>I kinda spaced out and improvised it and made it so that he was a slave to the beholders
>PCs will now go rescue him
>this will take all the weight out of encountering the beholder in the shadowfell
So how do I handle this? Should I have them meet the particular beholder treasure hunter while rescuing the family member of that PC? Or just hear about him? Maybe they can hear a rumor that he is seeking out the artifact as well and then they have to decide whether to rush to stop him? What do you guys think?

>>98829721
Why would I think that or try to convince you of it?