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>Universal Sovereign Dickless aura-leeching ghosts. All good for getting shoved into weapons and onaholes.
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>>98796060
Mandrake Cyoa!
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>>98796054how does he do it? kino cyoa after kino cyoa
post Spirit Conscript
https://imgchest.com/p/na7konjjwy8
post outer reincarnation
post Traveller's Tale
>>98796087>>98796089It's not the current trend. Why would I post those?
post dragonfall
https://imgchest.com/p/5xy22anpnylhttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ObgmLnSo5yEod3g8r08FV_4Hc72s4RHK
>>98796066
Post Magi Case
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>>98796092You could start another popularity phase like SC if you do. Who knows?
>>98796095Man get this weak ass shit outta hereThread-killers only
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>>98796101But I'm not knowledgeable in those. I'd get less yous and more replies calling me retarded. Better to keep the current cyoa atop of the hill.
>>98796104
>>98796102Enough with the cringe shitpost. Talk about cyoas or fuck off.
>>98796114>Talk about cyoasI want more thread-killers, who's working on a new thread-killer? Tell us about it
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>>98796110>Better to keep the current cyoa atop of the hill.Its already going down. Notice how the only SC talk is gloating about it being popular but not actually discussing anything about it? Its over.
>>98796054>>98796085>>98796094>>98796118Now THIS is a good thread. Only the very best. I used to think it was over for /cyoag/ Gentlemen. We're back.
>>98796124
>>98796115(You) + Thread (rope) + Killer (chair).How about this thread killer?
>>98796129
>>98796125It's a new thread. Give it time and we'll reach 800 posts again.
>>98796133My life has no meaning or value. My death would impact the thread not one bit.
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>>98796144
Post dark and gritty and evil cyoas
>>98796141It has value because your post(s) kept our thread/story/romance going. Simple as.
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>>98796155
Would the black magic cyoa have been cooler with occult tech like >>98795755
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>>98796153Even if I'm a shitposter responsible for some of the most hated shitposts including wowan posting, I'm so tired posting and catposting?
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>>98796170We'd miss you eventually.Don't you see the numerous "baits/shitposts used to be better" replies?
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>>98796191finally, kino.
>>98796167it's actually a bit weird how often magic or other supernatural things are seen as being in opposition to technology and not something that can be used through it. I mean there are tons of urban legends about what are essentially digitally delivered curses or monsters that live in the screen and either drag you in or leave it to kill you if you encounter them
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>>98793247 (You) #Yinzhan>RaceHuman>PotentialOverpowered(60)>ScenarioAll>ConscriptionExorcist>LocationAnahata Precinct>Benevolent AlterationsPure Pool(60)Harem Mode(59)Mystic Beauty(59)Charismatic(57)Spirit Blood (Sullied)(56)Animal Blood(Bestial Pheromones)(55)>Malevolent AlterationsAge Disjunction (Shota)(60)Fanservice(64)Delicacy(68)Sealed Power(73)Malevolent Possession(77)>Aura SystemVast Generalist(67)>Recovery DispositionLovePain>AffinitiesCore G2(66)Phase G2(65)Flow G2(64)Alchemy G3(61)>TrainingTechnique Artistry(Legendary)(61)Ceremony(Legendary)(61)Tactics(Master)(61)Investigation(Master)(61)Scholarship(Master)(Science, Medicine)(61)Deceit (Legendary)(55)>Release TechniquesSense AuraBody EnhancementCloudy Spirit HandWeapon Link: Eternal Loyalty and Unerring TruthUrn of the DeadBeloved Name BlessingBewitchment of SkiesFeather Of LevitySummon Rite-Secret SupplyFour Point Sealing Body SigilCarnal Body SigilTracking Body SigilIndoctrinating Body SigilMerciful RecidivismInitiate Status-Arcane Acumen(52)Master Status-TransmutationMaster Status-TransfigurationMaster Status-TransmigrationChimera Egg(40)Vessel Transerence(30)Spirit Subjugation(14)Legend Status: Universal Sovereign(-1)>Equipment(29ep)Anceient Armor- Armor of Endless Rage(Seismic Gong, Explosive, Dismantling)(19)Purigication bell(14ep)Turtle shell Dwelling(6ep)Prayer Drum(1ep)>NemesisHellion Mob(0)My build ecists to realize one and only one purpose: To Charismamog ALL OF YOUDO!Alchemy affinity boosts charisma and personality, Legendary Deceit makes me the greatest troll to ever live, and I took every charisma beneficial alteration. I won't even need to fight, as my raw charisma will let me bully any enemy to tears.I plan to make entire legions of artificially ensouled chimera to bow and worship me as their creator and any spirit I kill as an exocist will be bound as conscious observers into my devoted chimera servants.
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>>98796201>it's actually a bit weirdI can tell you why it happens anon: because d&dGuns and tech were nerfed by the gods in early d&d lore, because gary didn't wsnt guns to unbalance is sword and sorcery setting.Now every fantasy casual thinks guns and medieval fantasy can't mix, dedpites guns existing before plate armor.
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>>98796167>>98796201Jeeta. Why do you respond to yourself like a crazy person.
>>98796217Fuck, I replied to last thread: >>98796085
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>>98796201You’re finally starting to see the bigger picture. >>98796240You appear to be schizophrenic. Jeeta is always right about everything.
>>98796240Same reason the jeet is posting every page of a cyoa instead of first page + link like a normal person: he wants to stop ALL thread discussion.We were havimg fun for too many threads and now he's seething.
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>>98796198>not OR>not Spirit Conscript>not Drag- actually that's fair>but the Homestuck cyoa where you die of old ageStop being a simp.
>>98796217>as my raw charisma will let me bully any enemy to tears.I'm sorry anon, but I'm too horny to listen. We both know how this ends.
>>98796258>>98796254Another name for me. Yoink.
How is science not bloody magic? All scientists are sorcerers to some shade. That's why they seek theories of everything to unify different layers of reality. It's as if scientists believe as-above-so-below and as-within-so-without. Scientists believe in summoning entities that transcend the body like AI and wish to become transhuman themselves. Don't forget scientists' quest for immortality either…and think about their obsession with seeking patterns, their inclination to turn patterns into geometrical representations, and their wish for theory to be beautiful! Scientists might as well wear robes and dissect bodies on altars- no, wait, they're already doing that… Christ, they might as well sacrifice materials in rituals to gain a material back with transcended properties. Oh wait…
>>98796261I'm sure some people find UG to be above OR and SC due to personal tastes. Perhaps they prefer the cosmology, or the companions, or simply how the CYOA looks.
>>98796265Nobody cares anon, talk about cyoas.
>>98796264
“Often the greatest magic trick of all is to trick others into thinking it ISN’T magic.”.
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>>98796201The only people who think magic =|= nature, science, tech, etc, are the misinformed and uneducated types who can’t use basic critical thinking skills.What’s funny is that whenever this is pointed out the thread goes berserk and starts having a tantrum.
>>98796265>>98796273
Holy shit, jeetanon has gone insanr. Man is spamming and baiting with everything he's got.
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>>98796285He'll reach the image limit eventually.
>>98796285You call it bait, but it’s really just their natural state of being. In their mind they’re just being annoying for their own amusement.
>>98796291
>What’s funny is that whenever this is pointed out the thread goes berserk and starts having a tantrum.This place is mostly underaged and adult manchildren so I dont know what you would ever hope to gain from being smarter than a bunch of shit throwing apes
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>>98796292He'll make a mew thread early when that happens, just like the thread we just came from.Jeet is desperate to kill any fun.
>>98796304>come into thread>state objective truth>anons scream>leaveIdk… it’s pretty cathartic…
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>>98796312You clearly haven't left jeetanon.
>>98796307Jeet has never once made a cyoa thread and you’re starting to sound unhinged.
>>98796319Jeeta is literally that one obama giving himself a medal meme but replace obama with a drooling autist instead.
>>98796319Anon, the last thread got killed on page 5 despite not being anywhere close to deletion.Now this thread is getting every bit of spam and bait jeet can throw at it.It's not rocket surgery.
>>98796152A father's love
Is the spam over?Did a janny come by and peepeeslap jeet?
>>98796344Seems so.Anyway, what are some ideas had for cyoas they never actually wrote?
>>98796344You act as though the jeet doesn’t ban evade
>>98796344I’m too powerful.
>>98796021I'm happy that /mcyoag/ is dying, because the only multiplayer they wanted was Sartre's /No Exit/. The big fags only cared about making you play as a bureaucrat who incidentally has superpowers. Now we're free to Choose Our Own Adventures, instead of letting them Choose Other People's Adventures.
Also. Whoever made this is the greatest cyoa author to ever exist. Bar none.
>>98796304>shit throwing apesOOK OOK OOK
>>98796261This slander is weak and expired, come up with better slander.
>>98796367>jeet is a phoneposting gilfagOh now you’ve really triggered me
>>98796367Thanks anon. I did not do it but a member of my species did
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>>98796261>ultimate god>they don't mean you
How is magic a part of nature when it’s meant to slap aside nature? It can summon fire for fucks sakes.
How is technology a part of nature when it’s meant to slap aside nature? It can break the sound barrier for fucks sakes.
>>98796362We don't want you multitroons here. Go back.
>>98796382Still low-quality, come up with something that actually relates to the cyoa and isn't made up.That one about the Pact being a HRA was solid and fresh.
>>98796085>Power of Friendship is the strongest thingtrue shonen kino.
IF IT IS WEIRD ENOUGH, THEN IT IS MAGIC, OKAY
>>98796403*HOA not HRA
>>98796403It doesn't stop being true because you stuck your fingers in your ears for long enough.
Why do I hate the human species? Because they casually say shit like “yo”, or “bro”, or “dude”, and it always comes across as group ape mentality. Kids can barely even read or write right now for fucks sakes.Reading and playing cyoas unironically ups your literacy levels but lowers maturity levels.
>>98796240this isn't about them this is about the lack of shit like Sonic.exe or the Ring, you know supernatural entities that work primarily through modern mediums like film or video games
>>98796419It's only true if you don't read the cyoa.
To be fair you need a really high iq to understand cyoasFFS
>>98796420love ya babe
>>98796404Where is that?
>>98796420>say shit like>for fucks sakes>unironically>upsYou ned to increase your literacy level
>>98796433>actually falling for itFFS
>>98796367That font...Could it be the Script of Inifnity...?
>>98796424It IS about them. They always say that magic and machines are the same but they are wrong when it’s up to the author to decide that.
For Wodan’s sake, please stop this madness.
woowoo... [o]_[o]
>>98796438An author isn’t the author of basic logic, friend. A wizard is doing science by default whenever they successfully cast a magic spell. A wizard is using technology by default whenever they successfully use a magic item.
>>98796428https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98758066/#q98761519>a 60 aura subjugated spirit would be significantly less powerful than any member of the trigram or yama/yudi>Consider that the trigram are spirits empowered continually by very large numbers of people who worship them, so in terms even of aura available they're beyond the pale
For the sake of all the fucks, and for all the fucks that were never given, please stop this at once.
>>98796462not power of friendship, more like power of a cult
I have gil at pepper grinder pointI will grind pepper into his face If you don’t shut the fuck up now
>>98796486Cum on his face while you are at it
>>98796481Cults are basically just friends
>>98796503Every fad is a cult when you think about it
>>98796503Friends with benefits
>>98796491Cum and pepper don’t mix well so no
Tok as a Supreme Biokinetic is a force of good
Remember that time the Chinese started a cult over fucking mangoes, and killed people over fucking mangoes. Cyoas for this feel?
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>>98796217Anons bully softie when they should be bullying actually retarded builds like this. Holy shit this is terrible.
>>98796530>the Chinese have the highest IQs on the planet>look inside >it’s a bunch of insane people What do white peoples have that Asians lack?
>>98796217Why not be an undead for the beauty buff?
>>98796543asian women
>>98796540Its amazing how many anons won't make it the first month. Just need to find a good place to bunker down
>>98796553>barren womb
>>98796543White people are divergent thinkers. The Chinese are conformist thinkers. The former leads to explosive breakthroughs. The latter leads to consistent prosperities.There are pros and cons to both. We’ve discussed this before. Chinese grew rice and that’s why they are the way they are.
>>98796566then just be a different race and take undead blood
>>98796217Also, no Discerning Traditional Garments? No Hypnotist or Ronin Eyes?
>>98796596The anons build consists of being the perfect undying aura slave and acting like the average mesugaki, what do you think their plan is?
>>98796608*splurt*
>>98796570>The latter leads to consistent prosperities>Looks in history book>Pic relatedI don't know how to tell you this anon, but...
>>98796649It looks like consistent prosperity when your baseline living standards are set by life in fucking Hindustan.
>>98796649The longest running civilizations in history are in China. This is because when civilization is at risk, all of civilization throws itself at itself, which is why Chinese civil wars are so fucking awful. When everyone’s prosperous you’re bound to reach a point where everyone’s miserable until that prosperity can be reached again. That everyone in that city even agreed to eat each other just shows how dedicated and committed they are to keeping their civilization going.
Chinese philosophy is about unifying divides. When divides are present they tend to start massive wars.
Oh nice new thread. Anyone mind making builds for my survey?>>98796085>>98793247I want to run a couple experiments, would anons mind making builds to see if they balance things better?>Experiment 1: Talent DiscountMaking a builds where your talent rating in one aura type provides a discount. This is to make basic techniques cheap, master techniques slightly less ecpensive, and leave legend techniques largely the same.Compare your "G" rating to the rating required for a technique, if you G rating is higher it subtracts it's value from the point cost.Example:Seismic Strike costs 5 poimt to buy.Your build has G3 in Core.Seismic Strike only requires G1.Seismic Strike now only costs 2 points for you.>Experiment 2: Aura Burst ModeKufoku mentions you'll be able to Double your points after completing an Aura Burst campaign, so why not make builds for that?Make a standard build for your freshly summoned conscript, then making Another build for your conscript after completing all their campaign missions.The second build gets build, free powers, and equipment points equal to their starting "Potential"(45 and a free great technique for talented, 35 and 2 free basic techniques for mutated, etc). They get no bonus alterations.Given how the "Prodigy" alteration works,, double these bonus points and free techniques/skills for your second build, but equipment points are not doubled.
>>98796658>The longest running civilizations in history are in ChinaAnon, no they aren't. The chinese love pretending that empires are the same to push this, even when the foreigners that replaced said empire existed at the same time and as a separate state from the empire they supposedly were part of.Chinese civilizations lasted on the same era cycles of around 250 years, just like everywhere else.
>>98796671The famous Chinese proverb is "The empire, long divided, must unite; long united, must divide" (分久必合,合久必分, fēn jiǔ bì hé, hé jiǔ bì fēn).>>98796649Chinese history is fucking hilarious. Too many golden moments that never should have happened.
>>98796686You’re not comparing the right things. The Byzantine empire wasn’t the same thing throughout its millennia+ long reign either, and yet it was still perceived as an eternally Roman thing.The dynasties changing don’t mean shit when the people still consistently identify with their cultural identity as one and the same.
>>98796673Has anyone ever actually made an aura burst built for your survey? As much as everyone complains, I've only ever seen "non-canon" talent discount builds.
>>98796686>Chinese civilizations lasted on the same era cycles of around 250 years, just like everywhere else.Cute how you think the cycle number is always the same number, or that nations haven’t been able to delay collapses, or that some cultures are just better at long lasting reigns, or extending it. America is a great example. Let’s see if they can do it again…
>>98796698Anon, nobody brought up rome. I said china fell in the same 250 year cycles as EVERYONE ELSE.
>>98796700i did.
>>98796686>the foreigners that replaced said empire existedThey didn’t replace them they enforced their cultures on them. You can see the difference between the Han and Manchu.
>>98796700>Has anyone ever actually made an aura burst built for your survey?Once. An anon make a yokai build for before and after aura burst, but yeah the discount is way more popular despite everyone talking about aura burst every thread.
>>98796707The Byzantine empire is a parallel of the later dynasties of China, lol. Both fell behind the rest of the world for very similar reasons. Both looked inward and thought they had everything. They were obsessed with upkeep of the glories of the past.
>>98796462Alchemy just keeps winning.
>>98796707That you couldn’t grasp anon’s point is just funny as fuck
>>98796713>They didn’t replace them they enforced their cultures on themAnon, that's called replacing a civilization. The privious civilization's customs, goverment, and religion gets conquered and replaced.
>>98796462It should be noted he said that in reference to being able to defeat them straight out of character creation, and proceeded to say that making cults for your spirits to make them stronger is a good idea, or even subjugating one of the trigram themselves to beat the others.
Culturally speaking the Chinese have become something radically different from what they once were, but their genetic heritage is still there, enslaved by the Manchu and then, later, Mao.
>>98796722>The Byzantine empireWho cares? I never brought up rome. Ehy are so obsessed with comparing china to rome?
>>98796735Genetics matters more than culture. Sorry. This is why European culture will always evolve into a form reminiscent of Christianity.You’re also allowed to splice cultures with other cultures. You may as well argue that China isn’t China anymore because its historical trajectory was butt fucked by something out of fucking India.
>>98796741I like asian women
>>98796700Look man, Aura burst is genuinely too many points. I keep thinking about everything I can buy with it and then getting paralyzed by choice. In the vanilla cyoa you can buy 1-2 legendaries(except alchests buying 5),with aura burst, you can double or triple that.
>>98796745Because intelligent people use comparisons all the fucking time, retard. Parallels exist all over the world. You’re an idiot if you think cultures are totally unique from each other. They aren’t. Your stupid 250 year cycle thing is an example of that. There IS a given lifespan of any given culture or civilization, and this extends to ALL cultures and civilizations, with select differences (it won’t always be 250 years; this is a safe estimate; some cultures also have threshold moments where they extended their reigns exponentially really, or a culture had multiple periods of 250~ year ups and downs, and managed to still come out on top). There ARE ways to mitigate the collapse and to come back on top. Most cultures and civilizations don’t do this.
>>98796768>>98796745>>98796741How does this relate to.CYOAs?
>>98796540Bro looking for any excuse at all to glaze his onahole
A lot of Chinese culture that was stamped out by the communist part was really old. They had ancestral practices going way back. Shamanism. The Wu/Xi.But no more. But know what’s still around that is also fucking ancient? Chinese traditional medicine. Which actually HAS a market. It’s a no browner why the CCP banned insubstantial shit but kept around the substantial shit. Money money money!
>>98796763>I keep thinking about everything I can buy with it and then getting paralyzed by choice.Is this why so many people ask about aura-burst and them never make a build? They get choice paralysis and chicken out?
>>98796738Yea it's not intended to be taken literally as "no spirit can EVER beat the trigram no matter what!" and was in reference to boosting a small or medium tier spirit all the way up to trigram levels. Softies game plan of subjugating more/stronger spirits up the food chain is still a completely valid gameplan in all honesty.
>Most cultures and civilizations don’t do this.Actually I take that back. A lot of long running civilizations seem to have been a thing due to a periods of collapse having managed to make a rebound. Civilizations can nearly croak and then come back to life. Those periods of collapse are relegated to violent burps. Some nations just don’t come back ever.
Stop that
>>98796785Probably. We can probably say you talent discount tweak was a complete success and the aura burst tweak was largely a failure.
>>98796790One major issue with that plan is that if the spirit dies they're set free and they'll remember who bound them.
>>98796804He can just rebind it assuming he has enough aura to do so when it dies. Given he has 60 aura, I think he will.
>>98796673So are ambivent alteration auraburst builds banned from meridian expansions even during the burst?
>>98796808Imagine binding one of the Trigram into your sword with Harmonious Restriction...
>>98796808Doing so would be dumb>My spirit just got defeated, I am in deep shit. I can waste away 16 fucking aura points or keep them to survive
>>98796808That's assuming he knows about it/is in the vicinity
>>98796818Harmonious restriction (trigram member) + Collapsing star + soul servantGood luck
>>98796817YesAmbivolent Alterations prevents meridian expansion. I imagine you can still cultivate the slow wsy, but quick meridian expansion is no longer available.
>>98796818Utter insanity if you can pull it off. It instantly becomes basically the most legendary weapon of all time with an extremely pissed off voice coming out of it.>>98796822It's 12 and is basically a full revive. It's perfectly valid for someone with that much aura and aura regen and actually gives him a humongous edge in prolonged combat.
>>98796830No.>>98796817No.Ambivolent alteration doesn't let you buy aura from the cyoa. But you can still train it like normal. So you could train it during the burst all the same
>>98796834This was my understanding as well. It's a chargen limitation that hurts your maximum by damaging your soul a bit.
>>98796817Logically no one should be able to do Meridian Expansion post chargen.
There's no point worrying about your aura burst build because at least one alchemist is going to Third Impact/Grey Goo/Supermassive Black Hole in those 108 hours.
>>98796823Pretty sure softie said he will be in the thick of it most of the time, I presume so that he can actually capture spirits with subjugation in the first place. It's a downside for someone like ming yue maybe who just sends them out and hides in her room.
>>98796818>>98796829I just noticed, nothing in harmonious restriction says it prevents spirits gaini g aura from worship. Just make sure you don't use a Silvered weapon for the exorcism and your Trigram Sword will have functionally infinite aura coming in from their cult.
>>98796840Doesn't even hurt your maximum aura possible, just the start.Its harder to gain more aura the more aura you have, now you just have to gain 5 more aura, but the longer it goes it will less difference.The time to go from 95 aura to 100 is the same if you have ambivolent alterations or not.
>>98796854Doesn't universal sovereign say spirits need to be present for worship for it to affect them?
>>98796840>>98796860Anons, you're assuming kofuko's instant meridian expansion shortcut is the same thing aura users do to cultivate aura. PCA anon confirmed they were different when we asking him if ambivelant cuts your ability to cultivate forever.My understanding is that taking meridian expansion during the auraburst would be copying kofuko's fast and easy cultivation method, not standard(slow) cultivation.
>>98796864Then have them follow you around as they worship your swordslave.
Once years ago I was Chinese
>>98796870If we take what you say at face value people have one more reason to not auraburst.
>>98796870>not standard(slow) cultivationWhat's the standard level then? If we go off the cultivation skill, it sounds like it'd be somewhere from 3-8 points per hundred years(human lifetime) depending how good you were at it.
>>98796889>people have one more reason to not auraburst....Why? If you it's not like going without it will make you cultivate faster.
>>98796890I have no idea. PCA wouldn't give us a straight answer no matter how much we bugged him about it. Your guess is as good as mine.
>>98796897Cultivation speed isn't meaningful even for someone without ambivent alterations.
There’s a frog epidemic on /sci/ right now
>>98796529Yes, I would make the world beautiful
>>98796915That's the face of a man who refuses to post Cataclysmic Cultivation.
>>98796830>>98796834>>98796817Why are people talking about lobotomizing themselves with ambivalent alteration when you can just alchemymax with vessel transfer to have all the alterations you want? You can even swap out your own custom alterations by switching bodies.
>>98796955I wish every alchemist in the setting would rope.
>>98796958>t. impermanent jobber
>>98796966>built for sovereign cock
>>98796966>t. spirit that jobs to softie
>>98796958>A new basic alchemy technique is discovered where roping makes them and their summoms immune to the Butchery Weapon Trait>A new breed of resiliant chimera is released that can't be hurt by non-ancient weapons>100,000 civilians dead in the first week
>>98796958But Kohas are nice, and Aki isn't bad too...
>>98796991>100,000 civilians dead in the first weekSo it was a pretty chill week in Youdo then?
I come to you with an epiphany I had last night.CYOAs, as a whole, are about designing a new character and a new life for yourself from a pre-set selection of choices. Daydreaming a different life and person you could be within the limitations the CYOA imposes. There's no real "gameplay", just a character builder - you can have fun daydreaming about the character you built, but that's it. The hobby itself is focused solely on this character building aspect.Are CYOAs not a very closely related, (very very slightly) more masculine version of dress-up games, like on DollDivine?Discuss.
Dark Sissy hungry for male attention again...
>>98796991Wpuldn't the monkey's paw fit perfectly in youdo as an alchemy tool? It seems like something those fuckers would make.
>>98797020I am not he
>>98797027Alchemist monkey pawing themselves probably happens every other time they try something.
>>98797027>It seems like something those fuckers would make.You literally can. It's an item that's valid under the rules for the alchemy master status-transmutation power.It's powerful, but it has severe and horrifying drawbacks. Exactly the kind of thing transmutation would make when trying to craft a wish-granting item.
Remember that there are strong aura users who can kill top tier Majushin elders and shittalk Overseers for 60 years, and the scary alchemists can't do shit about that. They are only good at bullying peasants.
>>98796955>Thikns he is better at this than KofukoThats how you end up being a jobber or killed by your own hubris.
>>98797027The fairy star is the monkey paw if you use it wrong
>>98797067>If you use it at all
have a toktastic night
>>98797053I want to find that guy, but just to shake his hand. On his own humbled the alchemyfags
>>98797053Yrue and there are spirit that make those aura users look like a cough baby trying to fight a nuclear bomb. There's always a bigger fish and we're only scratching the surface of youdo, let alone the other realities in this setting that could make youdo look like an ignorant backwater village...
>>98797071You can use it with the obvious wish it was made of, everything else is dumb for several reasons>>98796915Tok please, have some common sense for once in your life>>98796928Good times.
>>98797073>hisAnon, evidence points to it likely being a ninokata sex bomb.
>>98797076>let alone the other realities in this setting that could make youdo look like an ignorant backwater village...Well, the 2 kings of death and life, whose existence means all life and death are rituals of worship towards them, being in the city should mean its not a backwater village
>>98797084I want to think there is more people in the city trying to help by killing the crazy majushin leaders. Also, the ninokata are yet to take a firm stand against them
>>98797084Then I've already met her after I joined the clan.
>>98797086Let him have his xianxia ladder dreams...
>>98797086Still spirits. There are appearantly gods above them and abyssal lords below them that they know little about and would absolutely wreck their kingdoms if set loose.Yama amd Yudi are the biggest fish in the city between, but that doesn't make them the biggest fish of all the many worlds.
>>98797106>There are appearantly gods?>and abyssal lords below them that they know little about and would absolutely wreck their kingdoms if set loose.The abyssal lords, just like chimeras, are a threat to the rest of the city. Not to the spirit kings.When the cyoa says something is dangerous to the city they are not talking about it killing Yama or Yudi, its about the common folk.>Yama amd Yudi are the biggest fish in the city between, but that doesn't make them the biggest fish of all the many worlds.?This seems like either huge fancanon or I missed some A&Q
>>98797084Everyone just assumes Ninokata when they think about high level assassins, but Flow has good stealth too...But Senguru don't want you to remember that.
>>98797106>There are appearantly gods above themThere are not unless you're calling yama and yudi gods, who are spirits.
>>98796021>made a new thread while the previous one still had 80% of its lifetime leftWhy?
>>98797124>>98797106there are thousands of other worlds, and there are examples of creatures like angels and abyss lords and such which are not spiritsthe setting is a lot bigger than youdu and its shintohinduism
>>98797141>there are thousands of other worlds,lol
>>98797141Angels are Yudi's soldiers, IIRC.
>>98797150it's in the cyoa :)
>>98797156lmao
>>98797122>>98797124Anons, read Holy Harmonic State and Summon Rite - Angelic Avatars.There are gods above the wheel other than spirits.>>98797122>The abyssal lords, just like chimeras, are a threat to the rest of the city. Not to the spirit kings.Anon, summoning a tiny fraction of just one abyssal lord with Summon Rite - Unbinding of the Abyss Lords is enough to destroy a thousand worlds.That's like saying Yama/Yudi could solo the full wheel turning effigy based on what one limb summoned with Summon Rite - Almighty Limb can do.
>>98797141>there are thousands of other worldssource>and there are examples of creatures like angelsYudi's troops>and abyss lords and such which are not spiritsabyss lords are the only thing unknown, but you can't go from "we dont know what these things are" to "hey, there are thousands of world and the city is a backwater village"
>>98797155there is no such mention of them in the cyoa or loredoc, the only places where the word angel appears is under angelic avatars, yokai apparently sometimes spawning legends of angels on earth, and stalkers being treated as angels of death>>98797158haha>>98797164>sourceabyss lords technique, final sentence>Yudi's troopssource>abyss lords are the only thing unknownand angels
>>98797162>Anons, read Holy Harmonic State and Summon Rite - Angelic Avatars.>There are gods above the wheel other than spirits.Angels are Yamas servants or otherwise unemployed angels in heaven as stated by PCA. There are no other gods.
>>98797168>Angels are Yamas servantssource
>>98797170PCA.
>>98797171post it
>>98797175>waaah spoonfeed meBeg for it.
>>98797179you don't need to, i'm fine with being correct
>>98797162>Summon Rite - Unbinding of the Abyss Lords is enough to destroy a thousand worlds.Its a part to hype the technique. Not factual.Unless you really think that thing never happened as the world is not destroyed.Its an exageration>That's like saying Yama/Yudi could solo the full wheel turning effigy based on what one limb summoned with Summon Rite - Almighty Limb can do.The wheel can reshape reality. Abyss lords are just some randoms things.In fact, one of the possible shapes of abyss lords are demons, demons are canonically soldiers of Yama just like angels of Yudi.>Anons, read Holy Harmonic State and Summon Rite - Angelic Avatars.Servants of Yudi>There are gods above the wheel other than spirits.How do you get that from the angel section if its confirmed they are under Yudi?Its like you skipped the part where people theorized about angels and PCA came and confirmed Yudi is their leader.
>>98797181That's not begging, you wont get your WOG post everyones already seen before if you don't.
>>98797183>i'm going to ignore the parts i don't likeit's both factual and not some random thing>>98797184i accept your concession
>>98797020She's insatiable
>>98797188I'm waiting for you to beg so I can prove you wrong, come on anon. You know you want to. Say "please please anon show me how retarded I am!"
>>98797165https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98758066/#q98759126Here an anon asked about heaven, hell and about angels being below them.Now shut up, I am going to sleep
>>98797192I have no relation to the alias known as "softie" or any of the horny builds you weirdos keep obsessing over. I am an independent guru with my own wise insights on the fundamental nature of CYOAs
>>98797205Damn why would you give him softies q&a so easily, it's obviously wronganon.
>>98797183>How do you get that from the angel section if its confirmed they are under Yudi?Not the same anon, but upon looking at the angel and holy state technique. They are written in a way which really doesn't make it seem like they're under Yudi. Connection to the highest divine authorities, plural? Ancient gods? To me that sounds like Yudi is a middle manager, even if he might be ordering the angels around locally, he doesn't sound like he's the source.
>>98796847Honestly this. I am not doing Age of Truth builds anymore because it's basically guaranteed that someone in the city will use it to do something VERY VERY stupid. If not an alchemist then a terrorist attack or a Coup d'état or some other bullshit.
>>98797213They are confirmed the strongest and oldest progenitors in the lore doc. They are the two gods of the world.
>>98796846Yea honestly this, but it makes potential maxing even more boring as a result.
>>98797217All the other ages also involve something very very stupid.
>>98797222>meanwhile, the actual loredoc:>“If there is some sort of divine arbiter out there, they’ve certainly done a fine job hiding themselves. The City Between is no closer to finding a definitive answer than Mortal World is.”Lmao.
>>98797225At least you know what the stupid thing is.
>>98797232Thank you for reaffirming what I said.
>>98797233But that stupid thing is bigger. At least under the aura burst, the stupid thing only comes from techniques.
>>98797225It's easier to plan for those though. Hunker down for the Yudi Yama civil war (which is still a mission in other ages anyway), or prevent the Wheel keys/Fairy Star from being used.
>>98797234>i am certain of my definitive answer to this question!>the loredoc saying there is no definitive answer only reaffirms my position!Lmao.
>>98797241I already said thank you for reaffirming my point.
>>98797237I'm of the opinion the techniques being widespread is more chaotic.
>>98797241You are taking to wronganon
>>98797249All of us are wronganon, wronganon.
>>98797241If nobody knows it, even yudi and yama, then its the kind of question that doesn't matter because it changes nothing.Its like people thinking some kind of god exists, created everything but from then on did nothing and will do nothing. Okay...? then beyond curiosity it will change nothing.if there is something beyond it doesn't matter, the strongest beings are Yama and Yudi, if there is something greater, it isn't and wont do anything as it didn't in all the cycles before.At least you shut up about angels.
Angels are the strongest non-spirit summon available to anons, how do you summon even stronger things when its already the peak of g3? Summoning seems to really suck compared to the unlimited potential of core, phase or flow training.
>>98797252You can't gaslight us. It's pretty obvious when it's one of the true wronganons
>>98797256Yudi and Yama are not "the city between". In fact, the city between is between heaven and hell.
>>98797257I think the wheel limbs summon is pretty op
>>98797257Fuse them, empower them, merge with them etc.
>>98796934>Cataclysmic CultivationWhy are you enamoured with chinkslop?
>>98797269>Fuse them, empower them, merge with them etc.There's no written way to increase their power, how do you 'empower them' then? Merging or fusing summons doesn't matter if it doesn't increase their power.
>>98797264The city in between got its name due to being in the middle of the mortal world and the spirit world.It is in a sense between heaven and hell.Having said this, I don't understand from where in my comment you thought that sentence would contradict anything I said.
>>98797258Too bad, the word wronganon was coined to refer to someone being wrong on purpose in order to troll rather than someone who genuinely thinks they're arguing something that has real validity. You know what happened right after? Some wronganon started calling everyone arguing in good faith wronganons, despite knowing that's not a valid use of the original definition. Therefore everyone is wronganon, the word was poisoned from the start.
>>98797257Also spirits are already stronger than any normal guy can really be.>>98797275Universal Sovereign, Spirit Subjugation both let you do that. Just expand from there.
>>98797275>Merging or fusing summons doesn't matter if it doesn't increase their power.why wouldn't it
>>98797279>It is in a sense between heaven and hell.Heaven and hell are different from the mortal world and the spirit world, and are also stated to be what the city is between. The city between is between every realm, hence its connections to all of them.
>>98797275Also fusing summons makes them stronger by default, they get both their abilities
>>98797285>Universal SovereignTRAP, it makes you have spirit weakness. Whoever picks it is a ngmi>Spirit SubjugationDoesn't work with angels, only spirits you captured with it
>>98797279You're saying that Yudi and Yama don't know because the city between doesn't know. However, that doesn't automatically follow. Yudi and Yama might know when the city still doesn't.
It isn't that complicated guys. If the anime hits a wall where basically the city itself is too small because we become too powerful and have done everything. Only at that point would we find out the setting is in fact much bigger and Youdu is in fact a quiet backwater and Yama and Yudi are considered country bumpkins among the Gods of the greater setting.
>>98797285None of that answered my questions.>>98797289>>98797292Why would it? How are you going to make them stronger anyways? If I fuse an angel with the demon summoning method it's not going to significantly make it stronger it will just turn it into an archdemon summon or something. How do you increase the powers of summon rites to be able to contend with the big hitters?
>>98797282Yea and you are obviously the original type
>>98797293>TRAP, it makes you have spirit weakness.dont you also lose your human weaknesses by that logic?>>98797299that wall is already hit at the mortal level, earth is a million times larger than youdu and it's still too small for mortal humans>Why would it?because that's how every other summon works and this one doesn't have an exception written into itangel fused with abyss lord can be stronger than plain angel, i don't se what's complicated about that
>>98797308And this is why you're wronganon, unironically.
>>98797314>angel fused with abyss lordAlchemists, no sense of right and wrong.
>>98797326that's nothing, wait until you hear it's part of the plan to fuse both into yourself and use the dichotomy to not go crazy
>>98797305>If I fuse an angel with the demon summoning method it's not going to significantly make it stronger it will just turn it into an archdemon summon or something....what?Anon, fusing summons isn't like megami tensei where fusing demons just summons a new, existing demon type. SC fusion summons actually fuse the ingredient summons into a combined monster.If you read the linked post and pic from this post: >>98797205Pouring more aura into a summon makes them exponentially stronger. Fusion summons have the combined devotion cost of their components, meaning they get much stronger than the sum of their parts.
>>98797338>Fusion summons have the combined devotion cost of their components>not just using technique artistry to mix and match the best effects and lowest costsNgmi
>>98797321>No you Lol, lmao even
>>98797305>None of that answered my questions.What's not to understand? You can already summon incredibly strong things (spirits), and there are already techniques that let you make the stuff you summon flatly stronger so you can just build off those.> If I fuse an angel with the demon summoning method it's not going to significantly make it stronger...Ok, purely from a cyoa design perspective it should be pretty obvious that's not how it works.
>>98797338>Pouring more aura into a summon makes them exponentially strongerThat only works on the spirit summons which can have more aura devoted to them, so softies methods are really the only way to make summon rites actually strong? Fuck.
>>98797326Not even 1% as crazy as they actually get:>>98793609>I Made a special Chimera by collecting cells from Chimera Nuclei that I fusion summoned with various Angels, Abyssal Lords, Extinct Mythical Creature, and even Limbs of the Wheel Turning Effigy Itself!>It's utterly Invincible and Immune to any form of control or alteration to it's Mind, Body, and artificial Soul! It can->What That? "Can I Control it?" What a stupid question, of course I can. Here let me wake it up and prove it...>[Horrifying Growling noises quickly joined by human screaming]
>>98797291>Heaven and hell are different from the mortal world and the spirit worldI know. I didn't say the opposite.> and are also stated to be what the city is betweenLiterally during the start of the cyoa>But powerful souls are in great demand in this City between life and deathThen again in age of conflict>So the legend goes, somewhere in this City between life and deathQuest of missing persons>A lot of people disappear without a trace in this great City Between Life and DeathThis is the second time today I have to correct someone on a basic fact of this cyoa, in less than 30 minutes. I will go off 4chan for today.You are heavy on headcanon in the last part of the cyoa. I suspect you are the same guy saying we dont know who is the god commanding angels, and then got humilliated with the receipt. Good night.
>>98797345Waow, you're finally noticing that's what wronganon means, only took you six posts.
Umbrella Corp ahh fucking conversation.
>>98797347Nah, you just do >>98797345 and you get a summon for 10 aura that's stronger than softie's brute force 70 aura summonThats the benefit of being smart and not brute forcing things
>>98797357(You)
>>98797355>This is the second time today I have to correct someone on a basic fact of this cyoaYou didn't correct anything in this post, you spend a long time saying "Yea I know you're right."
>>98797362This entire conversation is basically alchemists arguing about how to make the biggest, deadliest nuke that we all know they're gonna accidentally kill themselves with.
>>98797350>>98797362
>>98797371>The cyoa says the city is between life and death>says he is correct when he said the city is between heaven and hell>somehow thinks heaven and hell = life and deathYou are dumb.The city is the middle point between the mortal world and the spirit world. Ffs, read undead's description, they literally spawn in the city for a reason.Now that I got several points saying the city is between life and death, now show me the examples saying the city between is between heaven and hell
>>98797363???? What are you replying to? Also you're not going to only spend 10 aura and beat whatever softie is empowering, you're being more retarded than he was.
>>98797362Oh right, that reminds me that I need to make an alchemy build focused on making chimera viruses for youdo brand Prototype 1&2 powers.
>>98797383Oh, it was meant for the post above that one, misclick
>>98797382>somehow thinks heaven and hell = life and deathIlliteracy run in your family or did you just need something not said to latch onto? Either way, yea you need yo take a break your brain is bad right now.
>>98797011I will return at a later date when the thread is wiser and more capable of understanding my grand insight (and less obsessed with some unrelated thread boogeyman)
>>98797382NTA but this is the single most wronganon coded post ever. The city is between heaven and hell, what the fuck nonsense are you trying to push?
>>98797395>>98797386it's described as both of those actuallymaybe the city between can be between more than two things?
>>98797389>boogeymanShe is real (Obviously a woman based on how stupid she is and her deflection tactics)
>>98797398Yes I already said that >>98797291
>>98797395I showed the source of the city being between life and death said 3 times in the cyoa with the parts were it appears.Do the same with life and death and lets see if you find something.Maybe when you realize it doesn't exist you will admit it.
If you keep giving her (You)s wronganon will keep being a tsundere at you.
>>98797403Sorry, sleep deprived, >Do the same with heaven and hell and lets see if you find something.fixed. Going to sleep for real now.Doubt you will admit it tho.>>98797398It isn't described as both.People think it is.The only talk about heaven and hell is about Yudi, Yama and the river of the souls. The city is never called between heaven and hell or anything like that, its the city between life and death, where undeads spawn
>But powerful souls are in great demand in this City between life and death, and you’re just the one I’ve been looking for.>somewhere in this City between life and death, the hidden Star can grant any wish of its owner’s heart >A lot of people disappear without a trace in this great City Between Life and Death.>technologies and treasures are buried in the infinite depths of the City Between, where only this pocket world between Heaven and Hell bears the record. This is three instances of between life and death and only one instance of between heaven and hell. Obviously this means that Youdu is between three lives and three deaths, but there is only one heaven and one hell.>mfw anons don't know how to hit ctrl-f on their pdf reader, or even worse, are looking at this shit through jpgs, yikes
>>98797363>anon berates softie for putting 60 aura beats the trigram>anon then proceeds to say he only needs 10 to beat them...
Maybe make a general for this shit
>>98797417It makes perfect sense, 1000 points of strength used by a retard to hit his head into a wall is worse than 10 points of strength used by someone smart to do something useful with
>>98797417You don't get it softie is definitely stupid and anon is definitely smarter and not a hypocrite!This is all most anons do here to each other. Downplay everyone else and upsell themselves.
>>98797430>>98797429Instantly proven correct lmao
>>98797423It's just wronganon baiting someone with another Pedantic argument. She is just a really dumb autist who can't understand even vaguely abstract concepts or perspectives
>>98797247>I had a great idea! I'm going to spend the entire time making chimeras, giving them artificial souls, and then having them face off trapped in spokeless cosmic wheels until one of them discovers a new way to escape impermanence
10 > 40 > 60
https://www.mediafire.com/file/1on25t0hw5aijkg/spirit_conscript_1.1.pdf/filehere's an upload from the other day anons, maybe this will make it easier to look up fluff and lore
>>98797377I imagine this is how the chimera got out the first time.Ou can really tell Alchemists have learned nothing from that event because THEY'RE STILL MAKING CHIMERA.They rrally are Ubrella Corp: The Aura Affinity edition aren't they?
>>98797400I support whatever they say they are, but they sure are annoying when I'm trying to have a not-completely-unserious discussion about the genealogy of CYOAs as a hobby, but their reputation is getting in the way
>>98797434Good job on getting the reference, anon
>>98797441I imagine they just arose out of aura mutations spontaneously and alchemists excitedly copied them
How do you tell the difference between evil and good alchemists? Obviously summoning and making rampaging chimeras is evil, however also obviously making useful objects and medical procedures is good. The problem is that medicine and chimeras overlap. Is any alchemist who uses medicine on a thing without a soul that is evil?
>>98797459They are explicitly originated by spirits and taught to mortals.
>>98797470All alchemists are good.
>>98797470Sense Karma.
>>98797473I thought that was just alchemy in general?>>98797476Spotted the evil alchemist trying to hide in the crowd.>>98797477Not reliable, susceptible to corruption.
>>98797476alchemist falseflag
>>98797429Sounds like you're the retard banging your head against the wall to be honest.
>>98797437Yea and the thing is multiple retards will be doing stuff. The bloody fog will detonate an aura nuke, a gang war between the hellion and six finger will break out, multiple alchemical experiments will go wrong, the Pale Demons will try and resurrect Yakshanek, Yama and Yudi will make a power play, the Hair Tribe will attack the Turtle Islands, etc.
>>98797486Please elaborate
>>98797481>I thought that was just alchemy in general?Both are true.
>>98796085I wonder, is there a way to give yourself more eyes on a soul level?
>>98797492One does not necessarily follow from the other.
>>98797491>anon obsesses over softie and constantly downplays his shit>erm actually I can do exactly what he does but 50x better because I'm just that smartYou are more retarded than he's ever been.
>>98797500Yes, you just can't start the CYOA with that unless you buy it, but later it shouldn't be too difficult as long as you have the right techniques.
>>98797507What techniques do you think would work for that?
>>98797501That doesn't really matter when the lore document tells us explicitly it was created by spirits and taught to mortals.
>>98797506I'll ignore that you're taking an obvious joking reference seriously and speak down to you as the autist you're presenting yourself asIt is in fact smarter to use effective combos rather than just brute forcing things, yeah
>>98797521>retard reaffirms he's retardedThat wasn't needed. Please get help for your obsession.
>>98797423Imagine if the discordsissys stayed on discord instead of using the thread as a captive audience for their faggotry
>>98797512It says alchemy was taught to mortals by spirits. It doesn't say making chimersas went through that same pipeline. It also doesn't say every single advancement in alchemy ever made was made by spirits, which is a very extreme statement that you'd need to justify somehow.Do you have any reason to believe no mortal ever came up with a new application of alchemy?
>>98797521nta but what 10 aura combo do you think is going to outdo a 60 aura spirit?
>>98797524You can't expect any kind of logic from the guy that obsesses over sovereign.
>>98797531I don't know, I didn't even check if there's a summon fusion with exactly 10 aura, i just used it as an example
>>98797528Retard.
>>98797537That still doesn't say mortals didn't come up with a specific use of alchemy? It just reaffirms that spirits initially taught alchemy as a field to mortals.
>>98797537nta but I believe the 'it' in question is referring to alchemy as a whole.
>>98797528>>98797537Yea kofuko explicitly says chimera egg was taught to mortals anon. He beat me to it.
>>98797543>kofuko explicitly saysWhere? Because >>98797537 is not it.
>>98797546It is.
>>98797549>>98797542>>98797540
>wronganon is now arguing with anons about wog in the lore docThis reminds me about when he said chimeras can't be soulless and sentient. Picrel mogging him again.
>>98797555Oh, good catch. It seems mortals did make chimeras first. So >>98797549 >>98797543 >>98797537 is wronganon. Got it.
>>98797557>It seems mortals did make chimeras first>only thing it says is that mortals mixed human flesh with it first>other post already hard confirms spirits taught it to humans firstLol, lmao. (You)
>>98797557Damn he's right about you being wronganon, all that post says is humans were the ones that made humanoid chimeras first. Spirits still taught chimera egg to humanity first.
>wronganon intentionally misleading people about things that are spelled out blatantly in the lore docWater is wet, the sky is blue.
>>98797561>Spirits still taught chimera egg to humanity first.But it never says that anywhere? You said it was explicit earlier. Just point towards it.>>98797560This is the same disjointed logic you're using by going "spirits taught alchemy to mortals therefore mortals couldn't do anything alchemical on their own". That was the reversal of your own faulty logic on you, but I guess only you get to make leaps in logic like that.
>>98797570>But it never says that anywhere?>>98797537
>>98797576He's referring to alchemy as a whole.
>>98797576If you keep replying to him he's just going to keep ignoring the hard proof and lying.
>>98797537>>98797555Honestly I think it could go either way.
>>98797581If you think that's explicit or hard proof, then you're the one who's lying. Just admit that you're wrong at this point if this is all you have.
Is bad faith the average anon's current disposition? Holy
>>98797587Apparently, it's amazing how wronganon can keep up his humiliation ritual so long.
Something about Spirit Conscript brings out the worst in people.
>>98797587They make stupid sweeping claims that aren't supported by the text, as if you are obligated to bow to their wise headcanon, and when you correct them they get butthurt about it. I don't know why they then feel the need to make shit up on top of that.
>>98797591If it was only one dude then bad faith wouldnt be the average disposition
>>98797587>downplay and shit on everyone elses builds>constantly make shit up about the lore>ignore RAW and WOGThere's a dedicated small amount of shitposters that are trying to ruin it for everyone.
>>98797511I have thought about this as someone who likes the Yokai. Normal shapeshifting like Inner Demon Chrysalis wouldn't be enough, you would have to use Transfiguration or a whole new body with Vessel transfer. Even then I would say you would have to take an alteration to gain either Inhumanity or Spirit Blood (Seen). If you already have Spirit Blood you might not need an alteration and could just unlock another Spirit Blood trait (same would be true for adding the benefits of other races if you have Undead Blood or Animal Blood), but that's iffy. Honestly "Seen" might be the best Yokai trait as a result.
>>98797591Her* obviously a Foid
>>98797606personally i think you could start with chrysalis and just train your aura system via regular cultivation and meridian manipulation until you make your aura system qualify for another eyethis may take a while but i don't see why it wouldn't work, everything in the cyoa is just starting stuff and a lot more than is listed is possible
>>98797594Its the same three fags arguing with each other for the last 2 weeks
>>98797618That could possibly work. Cultivating a change to your body until it is soul level. It's kinda obvious that PCA improvised the idea that to actually have more eye techniques the eye had to exist on a soul level after people pointed out how easy shapeshifting is. He created a lot of alterations that give body parts acting like getting them was somehow difficult when we are literally in the hands of the City's best flesh weaver. Shapeshifter race as a whole is extremely mid as a result.
>>98797647>Shapeshifter race as a whole is extremely mid as a result.nah it has the best racial techniques
>>98797606>>98797618>>98797647Speaking of demon chrysilis, where don't core users that use it turn into chimera.From what I can tell, the user is a real member of the species they turn into rather than a chimera using aura to fake it, even if the species is supernatural or something the core user made up. If another core user becomes the opposite gender of the same species, they could probably produce more of their kind without making chimera, and thus avoid the "Universal compatibility" problem.
>>98797673Which ones?
>>98797684mythic beast, mostly>>98797681>Speaking of demon chrysilis, where don't core users that use it turn into chimera.a chimera is a soulless thing with hyperadvanced and aura-suffused biology but no aura system and soul in the human sensecore shapeshifters are already doing the first half of that, doing the second half would be pointless and completely detrimental
>>98797681Might work for an actual Jurassic Park scenario. I think the main issue is that no one really cares to do it. If you wanted to "safely" breed a bioengineered monster using core users getting freaky in monster form it would probably work but it would take much longer than simply making a Chimera with Alchemy. Core users don't make monster armies and Alchemists really don't understand the science of what they are doing. Honestly a Conscript with scholarship "genetics", could do Youdou a world of good.
>>98797700>chimera is a soulless thing with hyperadvanced and aura-suffused biology but no aura system and soul in the human senseAnon, chimera can't be difined by the lack of a soul. Alchemists can literally make cjimera with souls of they use the right powers.To say nothing about if a retarded bestality fetishist fucks a chimera and produces human-blooded sapient chimera...
>>98797739>Honestly a Conscript with scholarship "genetics", could do Youdou a world of good.Or become the albert wrdker of the settimg.Knowledge is dangerous in the wrong hands.
>>98797739Anons convinced softie not to do his chimeralord build and nobody else wants to do chimera egg shit.
>>98797700>mythic beast, mostlyNo disagreement that it is a really good ability but it is very build specific. Outside of a dedicated mythic beast shapeshifter that is a literal dragon or something it's other abilities can be replicated with other techniques while undead, Yokai, and even humans have really exotic abilities that can't be gotten anywhere else. And the animals blood choices are kinda lackluster as they either grant body parts(you could easily get those elsewhere) or let you double up on two recovery dispositions that aren't really the ones you want to double up on in most circumstances. Prey's Reflexes is a nice Phase boost though.
>>98797753CHRISSSSS!!!! yea it's more likely they would go bad.
>>98797745didn't we just go over this like three threads ago? if you remove that distinction then there is no distinction remaining between a high level shapeshifter and a chimera>>98797770i can see major use cases for mythic beast, which is more than i can say about the exclusives of the other raceslike yeah aura drain is cool and can be built around but that one isn't even exclusive
