>What is /awg/?A place to talk about any wargame that doesn't fit another general thread better. This includes both historical wargames and various fantasy and sci fi games.>Example /awg/sDragon Rampant, Lion Rampant, and Xenos Rampant. Oathmark, SAGA, and Conquest: LAst Argument of Kings. Frostgrave, Stargrave, Rangers of Shadowdeep, and Ghost Archipelago. Pillage, Barons' War, and Never Mind The Billhooks. Bolt Action and Konflikt '47. Warmachine, Space Weirdos, Space King, A Billion Suns, Dropfleet Commander and Dropzone Commander. >Novice Troves, meant to serve as a sampler of available systems. Check out the Share Thread for up-to-date troves.https://pastebin.com/MjtsC8AXhttps://mega.nz/#F!zSYW0I4a!vXh8-UPi_tWXpJES_-p4zgGames, Ospreys & References folders for historical purposeshttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/lu95l5mgg06d5/Ancienthttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/81ck8x600cas4/Medievalhttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/w6m41ma3co51e/Horse_and_Muskethttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/vh1uqv8gipzo1/Napoleonichttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/bbpscr0dam7iy/ACWhttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/bvdtt01gh105d/Victorianhttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/b35x147vmc6sg/World_War_Onehttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8a13ampzzs88/World_War_Twohttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8i8t83bysdwz/Vietnam_Warhttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/7n3mcn9hlgl1t/Modernhttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/6jrcg496e7vnb/Avalon%20Hillhttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/pq6ckzqo3g6e6/Field_Of_Gloryhttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/r2mff8tnl8bjy/GDWhttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/whmbo8ii2evqh//SPIhttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/ws6yi58d2oacc/Strategy_%26_Tactics_Magazinehttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/lx05hfgbic6b8/Naval_Wargaminghttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/s1am77aldi1as/Wargameshttps://mega.nz/#F!ZAoVjbQB!iGfDqfBDpgr0GC-NHg7KFQ>Thread QuestionWhat else should be added to the OP, now that we're sharing?
Mass battle.
>>98808972Get the fuck out. We're not.
>>98808972Are you fucking kidding me?You faggot boomer assburgers are hostile takeovering /awg/?Fuck you guys.
reading through stargrave rulebook is surreal. My brain screams ai slop every few pages and i have to keep reminding myself the book is from 2021 back when they couldn't handle the number of limbs or fingers correctly yet.
>>98808972last mega link is dead
>>98808972Will this merge be permanent now?
>>98809214It won't.
>>98808972>/awg/ and /hwg/ mergePut the loads of links into a pastebin if this is gonna be permanent.Then an archive link of the pastebin just in case.
>>98809231i kinda like it tho. /hwg/ been dying from a while and this movie could resurrect it.
/hwg/ anon here, just let it die. All the regular posters are gone and it's just shitposting at best.
>/awg/ /hwg/I beg your fucking pardon?What actually happened with /hwg/ that ran it into the ground? You'd think the quasi-historical rulesets like SAGA, Pillage and Greathelm etc would give it a boost.>>98809080I recognise that gay blowjob
>>98808972Fuck off. We don't want extra autistic faggots ITT.>>98809244It died because its just shitposting.
>>98809313Sorry for your loss. I guess discord has really sucked the air out of /hwg/?I know many of you were critical of Pillage, I never played it myself so I can't comment. But yesterday victrix teased an upcoming set of siege equipment for pillage, including siege rams, mantlets and ladders. I think these look great and could be used in many other systems.
>>98809429>What actually happened with /hwg/ that ran it into the ground?Usual posters died of old age and got replaced by jeets posing as white supremacists.
>>98809447>jeets posing as white supremacists.well, there's plenty of those in /awg/, they should feel right at home
>>98809569maybe it's the same guy.
>>98809446I hope pillage doesn't bloat. It's a system written for narrative skirmishes between small time chieftains and captains and their personal followers. Trying to stretch that to make a siege work feels like it may be ill-suited.
>>98809429>>98809446Nah, people have lives that don't leave much for hobbying. And what's the point of spending time taking photos and writing posts when you just get one or two replies saying nice while shitposters (mostly just one guy that's a closeted homo) spam the general to death.
>>98808972Stick the historicals up your ass, make your own fucking general.
>>98809614>wargames>narrativeI wish this retarded meme would die and you retards would just play DnD instead.
Anyone get a chance to try this? I don't think it ever made it to pdf. Its not by Preistly but some other guy and Wombat Games. >>98809244>/hwg/ been dying from a whileCorrect. Consider how and why it died. >and this movie could resurrect it.No, it will just bring the remaining infection here.
>>98809942NTA. Most wargaming has narrative tie-in. Campaigns necessarily do. Scenarios (historical or not) are again necessarily so. Pick up games and tournament play don't require it, but it emerges regardless unless you're playing with and as the dullest spoons in the drawer. Doesn't have to be anything fancy like a map and war diary or whatever but if you're not doing some sort of imagination fun and building that with the game as it unfolds you're really missing out. That being said, the 'narrative' indie explosion around 2015, the solo covid boom and resulting fallout has made for some total bullshit rules trying to pass themselves off as 'narrative' when they're really just badly written garbage.
>>98809942There is wargames and what later became modern wargame and RPG.One focused mostly in the combat while the other mostly in the narrative.Wargames focused mostly in the combat is a rather a modern thing, but then again few wargames today even mention the concept of a GM.
>>98809446I agree with you on this. I read through the Pillage book and didn't hate it, siege rules might get me to give it a shot. There's one guy in town who wants people to play it, hopefully he's not a weirdo
Sorry, which folders contains A Fistful of TOWS stuff again?
>>98810134I didn't have all of the /hwg/ OP saved and didn't want to dig through the archive, so it might be lost in the shuffle.
>>98810090"narrative" for wargames is something interpreted through the outcome, it's fluff.If your scenario is narrated, it's an rpg.
>>98808972Make your own general.
>>98809994>No, it will just bring the remaining infection hereAt this point, maybe /awg/ dying would be a mercy. I can't remember the last time a thread didn't devolve into garbage posts.
Damn you excluded all the best OP links and troves. Idk how to access the archive or I'd get them myself
>>98810102Revisionism like that is so fucking retarded. They're literally called war games, the entirety of their rules have always been about combat, DnD was literally born from wargaming as a consequence of the creator wanting to play more narrative games, and yet you still spew this retarded shit.I'm 100% sure people like you are essentially just white dwarf battle report readers and not wargamers>>98810090No they don't have any tie-in. The narrative of a wargame is you wage war. That's it. The game discussed is called Pillage, the """"narrative""" is entirely contained within the title. That's all the narration that's ever going to be there. A handful of dudes pillaging.A couple of lines of text to give context to a battle (scenarios, campaign) doesn't have anything to do with what was discussed in the post I replied to, which said:>I hope pillage doesn't bloat. It's a system written for narrative skirmishes
>>98810783You fucking retard, Pillage was already based on a narrative scenario-driven skirmish game (middle-earth). Get over yourself.
>>98810783>narrative In the context of wargaming, narrative just means you have a string of battles in a campaign where the results and actions of the previous battles affect the next one. For example, you play a scenario defending a supply train, if the attacker destroys it then the next battle the defender is reduced, or you play a siege next and you don't have the ability to keep reloading your cannons or some shit. Or you have a hero or leader who can be killed, or performs exceptionally well and now gets a leadership bonus or something in the next battles because he is now see by his men as a legendary hero. "Narrative" wargaming is just playing a campaign with actual outcomes, instead of just playing unrelated one off battles like some random 40k faggots at the LGS
>>98808972>not calling it /hawg/ tuahone fucking job
>>98809005Looks great, who will these be fighting?;
Speaking on Indians, my Indian fatigue has reached an all time high and I'm considering getting into an Indian Mutiny project so I slaughter Indians on the tabletop, like pic related What are some good ranges of models for this period?
>>98811218Empress has an incredible Indian Mutiny range, and tons of jeets to be blown from the guns
>>98811218>I hate indians so I will paint and play with themUh.....?
>>98810467No, its generated emergently through setup and play. The outcome is part of that but not the entirety. That this isn't obvious to you is some nogames behaviour.
>>98810783>The narrative of a wargame is you wage war. That's itThe simple minded retardation at work here is impressive. The game discussed is whatever the fuck we want, not just whatever game has your nuts in a knot. That you can't imagine making note of how the game plays as you do so is pathetic.
>>9881095299% of pillage rules simulate dudes killing each other, there's only one narrative and it's pillaging, you fucking retard.>>98810954No. Narrative means narrative. Campaigns are campaigns. Those two words are not interchangeable. For the records I've been playing RPGs and wargame campaigns for the past 20 years. A narrative game is a game which has rules which promote stories. I design custom rules and scenario for wargames and campaigns that include NPCs, GM'ing, gaining money during battle and using it to bribe other players (in 1v1v1) or NPCs on the battlefield to trigger various effects and plenty of other mechanic. You need to add a shit ton of those and vary them to generate a narrative through a battle of a wargame that won't always be the same thing 9 times out of 10 because none of them are designed for that.>>98811471>The game discussed is whatever the fuck we wantYou're so fucking retarded that you legally shouldn't be allowed to talk to another human being. If you can't follow a conversation don't barge in, chessboard shitting pigeon.
>>98811457>I'm going to say what you said but with different words and think this is an argument against you
>>98811532>there's only one narrative and it's pillagingAnd setting things on fire and dealing with sheep stampedes and bears and escorting monks, all that fit within the context of small petty bands of pillagers. That's what the game is built around and the issue "Siege' presents is the trap that it'll bloat in size like every siege game for MESBG since those were introduced there.
Anyone play Dropzone Commander 3rd edition? Any take aways?Also, thoughts on Wyland Games quietly acquiring it's way into a mini GW?
>>98811958Dropzone v3 is definitely better than v2 was, and I've enjoyed the handful of games I've played of it, but I wouldn't recommend anyone get into it for now unless you specifically want one of the starter box factions or have an existing collection. UCM and Bioficers are they the only ones that have new plastics released, and all that's listed for sale at the moment for the rest of the factions are overpriced bundles of old models, which are even worse than would be expected as the kits that used to have multiple build options only come with the one shown in the bundle.
>>98810739>>98810145The correct OPs are both archived in /sharethread3 -> Da Annex. Anyone can post the proper OP to start the thread; it's tradition in /hwg/ to open with a military event that happened on or near that date.
>>98811916NTA but the only evidence of such I have ever seen is in the various BBC propaganda accounts, MAYBE one or two OSTENSIBLY pro-white accounts that seek to subvert by crapping on native european religion and/or pushing hebrew descended religion. but overwhelmingly those idian accounts have been solely about racemixing shit.
>>98808972can bloodbowl be discussed here? searching the catalog I don't see a general for warhammer side games anymore
Printed up my lava cave for frostgrave. I originally wanted it to be able to seamlessly transition from the dungeons, but the files didn't work right for that.
>>98813114So instead it'll be a deeper level you can delve to if you find the entrance in the dungeon. but the toxic gases and heat emitted by the magma are deadly, and a model loses 1 health each turn it's in one of the caves. On the other hand, top tier treasures down there.>>98813113Sure. If /gwsg/ isn't around, we can cover stuff like Blood Bowl and Mordheim. They feel more like awgs anyway
>>98813113when a gwsg thread dies it tends to take a few days for it to come back, there just isn't that much to discuss on the subject beyond gw's newest release of fomo sloppa, the thread has mostly been kept alive by the ragebaiting of two anons, one pushing the LRB6 for blood bowl, the other pushing necrodamus for necromunda,, the necrodamus guy is a fairly new thing but thats understandable as gw's fomo-reboot of necromunda is very recent still, whereas LRB6 guy has been pissing off the paid shills with his posts for years now.
>>98813113>can bloodbowl be discussed here? searching the catalog I don't see a general for warhammer side games anymoreYou.Can. Post. The general. Look at the link in >>98812382 . There are the /gwsg/ and Blood Bowl General OPs archived. Find a relevant image. Copy-paste. Hunt up the old thread in the archive if you can to link it in the OP. Ain't hard.
>>98813121Dungeon tiles. They're technically painted but i think i need to hit them all with a midtone grey drybrush to add some visual interest.
Anyone know of the forest dragon undead models come single model on small base?The ones I have from him don't, but dunno if you get them from him correctly if they got the bases now
>>98808972You guys have ospreys archive? I wonder if anyone knows where to find ancient warfare magazine stuff.
Anyone tried to play games like necromunda or mordheim or similar with 10mm models, converting inches to cm ?
>>98811958I wanted to but the new boxes are like twice the price of the former one. There's way more contents than before but fuck that.
>>98814714100£ seems okay for the 2 player starter box, have not looked at the prices for other boxes though
>>98814047Oh those look cool. Where are they from and for what ruleset you gonna use them?
>>98814745Thanks, think I got them from forest dragon miniatures, great stuff! .. Gonna use them for rattle and rend, some skirmish 10mm game, still in beta but seems funhttps://tabletop.willphillips.org/rattle-and-rend-downloads/
>>98814735The 2 player starter box used to be 45£ tho. 55£ with a cityscape/ruinscape box combo:https://web.archive.org/web/20210122181620/https://ttcombat.com/collections/dropzone-commander/products/dropzone-commander-2-player-starter-box?variant=31732785512496So yeah, twice the price.
>>98814714>>98814850It's a distinct thing I've seen lately. Most games are offering bigger, more expensive starter boxes. I think it's because the minis themselves don't cost much compared to everything that goes into development. If a box of 24 minis goes for 40, and a box of 60 minis goes for 100, you get a much bigger net on the bigger box, and you've already spent all the money on costs like art and sculpting and such, so the 60 mini box will only be a few bucks more to make. And your customer feels they get more value for the money because they're getting larger collections. The only issue is it's harder to convince someone to impulse buy for 100 instead of 40...
>>98814582Anon... here is a lil size comparison between a 28mm figure and a 10mm(*) one. You are NOT going to be playing anything like Mordheim or Necromuda with 10 mil, you might as well just play with empty bases. Skirmish games are not for tiny toys, these little guys are for big formations with lots of small dudes on each stand. Can't even put grass tufts on the bases those will obscure the figures.(*) technically it's an N-gauge figure which I'm to understand is very similar to 10mm
>>98814582>>9881553828mm games are perfectly serviceable at 15mm scale and you can either scale down the play area to match which is very convenient or use the regular size play area and get a much "larger" game out of it without having to put a garage of tables together.
>>9881458215mm is doable and there are even some prints already out there for it
>>98814582I've done various games with chits on magnets and drawn maps. Main this is figuring out which rule set scales from inches to cm easily. You can do this with basically anything. 6mm, 10mm, whatever.
>>98815538Really depends on how able to control your fat fingers you are, what size you make the bases, how flexible your measuring tools are and how much you worry about exact ranges. Smaller scale is more well suited to mass battles and abstract strategic but you can do a variety of things with it.
>>98815685Yeah, I can see 10mm with magnets or with leaded bases, especially if the minis are plastic or resin. 10mm is just way too small otherwise. A small gust could blow over most 10mm miniatures if they aren't in lines/groups.
>>98815569A while back I was talking to someone about playing Bolt Action using 6mm minis. He wanted to change the ranges to account for the scale and I pointed out that since BA massively compresses the ranges for gameplay's sake, shrinking minis without changing numbers just makes it more realistic. He ended up playing a game actually designed for 6mm play instead.
yea I can see 10mm cm mordheim would be a challenge, with using something like 10mm bases and moving that around
>>98815835I don't really see the advantage to it, since what 10mm terrain exists doesn't really suit Mordheim or its ilk. Is the goal a very small play area?
>>98815753>He ended up playing a game actually designed for 6mm play instead.This is likely the better choice. I have used cm conversions when space is limited or as an experiment more than converting scale for its own sake. >>98815735How much gaming outdoors are you doing? I haven't messed with 15mm, but 10mm and 6mm tend to have quite stable bases without even having to get to magnets. I have seen people use flat washers or pennies for extra though if round basing is an option.
>>98815858yes smaller play area, and I like small models
>>98815699Does this box flip over to be the battlefield? does it contain a rules book, dice, the minis, the terrain, measuring tools, etc...? I'd like to see the whole project if so, I did that for blood bowl at 15mm
>>98815753I will not help you turn this into /hwg/ fuck off.
>>98815879Not mine, saw it here a while ago. iirc it has the minis but not the book in the case. I'd be hesitant to put dice in there, they'll rattle around and bump the models. The other side was the battlefield yes. Trying to make portable wargames is an interesting project for sure, its why I saved that picture. I ended up shifting to a portable painter's box for small game stuff. They tend to have enough space for a few books, dice and bits but still keep it fairly light.
>>98815872nta I think they're right in that the vertical and getting into partially ruined buildings will be challenging at 10mm. Not impossible but for sure harder to pull off. Its overly fiddly but we're already into small scale so you could pattern out the building floor and layer it with adhesive magnet sheet so the bases have a bit more stability to them.
>>98815904I made a felt lined compartment for the minis to avoid damage
>>98815930Nice teams !
>>98815190Bingo: it's exactly the matter at hand. They give you more useless crap just so they can jump up the price. It's not criminal per se but in this economy it's a borderline suicidal move.I want to like this game but I don't have any faith in this "more models so more expensive boxes" pricing policy. By this logic you can already tell the rules will be unbalanced as fuck just so they can churn out new specialist units at a premium. It's all about getting the factories running at full speed.But if I wanted James Workslop selling strategies I'd go with James Workslop. At least he's popular.
What other games besides rank and files games like fantasy regiments, old world would be good to scale down to replace inches with cm directly
>>98816172Pretty much any 28mm platoon or up scale game can happily go down to 10 or 15mm and swap inches for cm. It's easiest if the rules allow multi-basing, but not crucial.
>>98813114Have you painted the first one you printed yet? My problem with my printer is that is prints at a faster rate than I can paint, so I have to really stay on top of things or it gets out of hand >>9881458210mm is too small, but 15mm or 20mm is great >>98815699Storage box is magnetic chess board?
>>98816307See >>98813145. The dungeon is basically painted
>>98816321Anon,.that's just a base coat
>>98816323You dont need much more for terrain. Maybe some drybrush if you are feeling fancy.Have you ever seen a fucking wall ?
>>98816323Hence why I said "basically". It has a base coat, it's basic.
>>98816332THIS is basic bitch barebones drybrushed printed terrain, you've got a ways to go.
I bought some stuff in past month or so, but i have so far been too much of a coward to actually unbox and try anything. Shopping is so easy, but actually doing something with free time, especially something that requires effort, is not...
>>98816420>The "I'm a discord tranny" starter pack
>>98816332>>98816350Nigga just dry brush your shit, stop settling for bare minimum. I don't know why you're even being combative, I'm just trying to have a hobby discussion, not everything has to be turned into a fucking argument. I was already hesitant to engage with your post because you have a history of being argumentative and combative, and you have only proven I should have gone with my instincts.
>>98816420>Bought the Quar starter with out of date rulebook and minis that he could've gotten cheaper with just two separate boxes>When the new starter is coming next weekLad...
>>98816420>DnD>OPR>Warhammer>Quar>Mindless consumption Holy tasteless NPC lmfao
>>98816466Got it on a big sale tho, but you're right, although i knew about the new one, i was unaware about the rulebook changes.>>98816494>>98816433Baitnigger, please try harder, you almost made sense there.
Saw that an 1/35 scale model of the m50a1 ontos is pretty cheap. Would it be worth it to turn it to a sci-fi vehicle for 28mm scale? Would turn the cannons into some sort of energy weapons.
>>98816550Sounds like a fun project, I'd try it.
>>98816550Yeah that would be KINO and 1/35 is a perfect scale for sci fi conversions
>>98816332Heres a 3d printed thing i did. You just base coated. It ain't hard to put in minimum effort like dry brushing and some other colors for slime/mold.
This thread was better without HWG, now its just hateful over nonsense that only bothers the non neurotypical.
>>98816787There is almost no posts about historical itt, and /awg/ has been toxic for a long time, what the hell you talking about?
>>98816550It always cracks me up that they put machinegun on each of the recoilless guns
>>98816882>/awg/ has been toxic for a long timeThen you can GTFO if you don't like it here with us, you don't need to drag your general's shit in here.
>>98817221I'm an /awg/ poster not a historical player, you sperg
>>98817255Then half of that still stands, if you think the place is shit you can close the window.>toxicthis particular choice of word says that your presence is unwanted anyway, in your terms you are "problematic"
>>98817370>mfw I'm arguing with an Archaeologically Informed Academic Heathen
>>98817423Not every anon is your boyfriend, and again, you can always go elsewhere
>>98817423Kek
Maybe we could fold the btg general in here as well and then some of you could learn to refuse a batchall every once in a while. Here's a house I made, I think I'm going to do a bunch with modular floors.
>>98817608if you think awg had shitposting up until now you would find yourself sorely mistaken if you brought the battletech anons in here.
>>98817608What models are those?
>>98817608/btg/ is active enough to maintain its own thread.
>>98817643You're right, is there any game with a fundamentally decent player base?>>98817783The painted one is reaper, the other 2 are frostgrave soldiers>>98818121it was a mere jape
>>98818157>is there any game with a fundamentally decent player base?Yes, you're going to hate it but pretty much all historical communities are normal well adjusted adult white guys with stable jobs and families. For some fortunate reason, the social outcast LGS/Warhammer type find history to be repellent. It should come as no surprise that the average history enjoyer is more of a well adjusted normie than the average "nerd"
>>98818173My local historical community is dominated by a guy whose stance is "who cares if it's accurate, we're just here to roll dice and have fun", which I find incomprehensible because at that point why bother making it history themed? Could easily make a more fun game by adding speculative stuff
>>98818173Compare to
>>98818173>>98818180>My fat old white guys are better than your fat old white guys
>>98817107Isn't it a spotting rifle though?
>>98817423Just go pray the goy away, anon.
Merging the two of them is weird, but I'm pretty sure some portion of the people against it are bait.
>>98809620Aren't we all old enough to know to ignore them?
>>98810783This is obviously bait.
>>98811457I have seen many many "After Action Reports" written for historical and sci-fi wargames. 40K and BPRE are very narrative heavy settings, and there is a bunch of lore in their books and explainations about what is happening and why. Tons of Wargames have you make your own armies or they have campaign rules.Some wargames have side rules for RPG stuff and some RPGs have wargame rules on the side. A lot of both are set in the third world, cyberpunk, near present, or historical.
>>98813113>>/hwg/ reverse aborting into /awg/>>now /gwsg/ trying to chaos spawn into the gay pile too Burn it all down
I consider getting the Greathelm ruleset, as the quickstart ones are nice. Can anyone tell me what do the full rules contain and whether or not they're worth the money?
>>98818815It's definitely not a finished product, but it has some neat ideas based on the Too Fat Lardies initiative/action system.
>>98818950>Too Fat Lardies initiative/action system.Go on plz?
>>98819110The concept of only having the actions available allowed by the result of the action dice pool.First place I saw that was "What a Tanker!" by TFL. They did "What a Cowboy!" too, with a similar system. Greathelm is kinda storebrand "not-What a Knight!" essentially.I'm not sold on its use in Greathelm, but I don't hate it either. But I've only had a few games.
>>98818815I like it. The main thing that the full rules have that the quickstart ones do not is scenarios, which in greathelm are made of 2 or more mini-scenarios called Scenes. There's also more developed choices for weapons, lighter armor, etc.Cheapest way to get them is to subscribe to the dev's patreon for one month. That also gets you the Realm Campaign rules, which are a surprisingly developed map campaign system.
>>98818157There are but I won't tell you about them because they only stayed that way by being gatekept.Figure it out.
>>98810102>What is Kriegspiel?Refrain from speaking on that which you are ignorant, lest you reveal the paucity of your knowledge.
>>98818177Because history changes? All the old guys have seen major archeological discoveries that have changed how things are interpreted multiple times in their life
>>98820052Yes a wargame that is not mostly combat. What about it?
>>98816307>Storage box is magnetic chess board?Any of the folding 24cmx24cm one will do, doesn't have to be chess. Chess ones tend to cost more for the same box.
>>98816550>scale seem to go from 1:35 to 1:72, no middle ground huh neat. 1:35 tends to be a bit chunky for 28mm imo but its a small vehicle and already goofy enough it'll work great as a scifi wunderwaffe.
>>98820321Or buy some wood artist panels and hinge them together for a larger board.
>>98820395That's the reason, with a lot of effort (the sprues seemed to be full of fiddly bits) it would look right next to stargrave automata and the like. Another candidate is the Wiesel, as it's also a small armoured vehicle available in 1:35 and it is not as immediately recognizable like a t-72 or an Abrams.
>>98820476These ones come with the magnetic base so it saves steps of having to put in your own magnetic sheet. But it does tend to fix board size to premades. Depends on what part of the crafting angle you're into I suppose. There's an appeal to taking existing things and making them work with minimal modifications but if you're getting into basic wood crafts making the frame and whatever size works for you isn't a big jump from hinges.
>>98820599>Another candidate is the Wiesel>looks it up This thing a cutie. Cold Quar when?
>>98820071Without context, it's also possible that canon's acquaintance is trying to head off an autistic spergout about uniform colours, whether or not it's of GAME BREAKING IMPORTANCE that a differing mark of a rifle has an extra 1/8" of short range bonus or the all time classic "why do half naked Egyptians count as the same Blades against my full-plate Yorkist Foot Knights in DBA?".Sometimes you're at game night to get away from squabbling schoolkids.
Anyone else find it curious how the British are always portrayed in pop culture media as the main character in history, yet it seems like there is no other major imperial power in history whose story is so rife with the most retarded and incompetent blunders imaginable? >Napoleon wars full of follies: Walcheren expedition, antwerp expedition, Wellington clapped in the burgos campaign, Royal Navy sent packing by Danish row boats >Lose to colonial farmers in America, unconditional surrender >Lose to colonial farmers in America, again: 1814>Royal Navy losing every single battle again American amateur navy>Retreat from Kabul>Bongs losing entire brigade to Afghans at Maiwad due to no reconnaissance >Khartoum>Lose entire army at Isandlwana to barefoot spearchucker, due to no reconnaissance >Charge of the Light Brigade: really nigga? (Still no reconnaissance) >the Somme>Gallipoli >WW2: Dunkirk, Fall of Singapore, Greece, Tobruk,.Norway, retreat from Burma, Market Garden, need I go on?It really took a lot of propaganda to portray these guys as mighty, because history shows their army and commanders as being total stooges
>>98818815What in the world made you think that was a nice and appropriate ruleset for what it tries to emulate? It's a gladiator school system trying to pass as a knight skirmish one.
>>98821011No
>>98820395Did you look in 1/48?
>>98821035/not-40kwg/soon.
>>98816172I think all of the Rampant games include guidelines to play them at different scale.Dragon Rampant also supports multibasing and some basic rank and flank features, so you can go for skirmishes or mass battle at 6, 10 or whatever mm scale.
>>98821011I refuse to eat out of this hwg flavored chumbucket, I like you guys ok but you need your own thread.
>>98821077You're one of the shitposters that destroyed hwg.
>>98821011Make your own fucking general shitheel.
Not doing this again. /hwg/ can sort out /hwg/'s problems by themselves; and we can continue in /awg/'s green and pleasant land.
>>98821011at least the British managed to conquer your mind, though tbf that's not difficult
>>98821108The green and pleasant land of not playing games because all the fags in 99% of the US play nothing but the mainline GW wargames?
>>98821038I did but not for very long, if you found one post it Id be interested. >>98821108That's dope, what's it from?
>>98808972You couldn't at least call it /hawg/ so it has a fun sounding name?
>>98821119Not my fault that Shartistan is an atomised consoomer hellhole dependent mostly on LGSs rather than nonprofit clubs.>>98821143Warzone Bauhaus, I think they might be Vulkans but that game had a surprisingly large range of stuff
>>98821011Skill issue. Space British do fine, transcend your shallow historical cage.
>>98821180I'll do that for the next one
>>98821180>>98821224Fuck off no one wants this but shitposters.
>>98821143I thought I found some but it was actually an m5a1. There's a ton of likely candidates in the self propelled anti air section on super-hobby
>>98808972>/hwg/Go fuck yourself make your own thread
>>98821247Sorry, I mean elf propelled anti air. Thought I was over in hwg/ for a second.
>>98821224you may as well just name it /hwg/ and nothing else because I'm going to make /awg/, period.
History cucks should be exterminated. Keep their trash out of /awg/
>>98821259>elf propelled air kek. 28mm skrimish scale Firelock 198x could be fun. >M5A1Thanks mate I'll give it a look.
>>98821191>one 25mm round per foot Man the 90s were insane. I'll keep an eye out for the model though, thanks anon.
>meanwhile at alternative and historical wargames general
>>98821180>/hawg/but what does /tuah/ stand for?
>>98821202What is this
I have found a way to have entry level hex and chit warfare in Moscow, and I'm pretty excited about it.
>>98821410FIlename. Wargame Atlantic made a bunch of >totally not 40k IG historical inspired boxes for cheaper These are stand ins for Praetorians but you could use them for 1889 or anything really. Ailen Zoology comes to mind or some sort of War of the Worlds game, there's a few, or any of the generics you want to do pulp space colonials fighting green zulu wakandians. WGA made a ruleset for their Death Fields series but I don't know if anyone has ever bothered to play them.
>>98821202>Skill issue Indeed it was, but fortunately for the British you can still pubstomp 3rd worlders without much skill required
OPR is for fags. Xenos Rampant is for KINGS.
>>98821575Who the fuck is playing Xenos Rampant in 2026? It came out, got a lot of buzz, then no community sprang out of it.
>>98821575Xenos fucking sucks
>>98821575Isn't Xenos the black sheep of the Rampant game line?
>>98821597What would you recommend instead?
>>98821599As in the only one with a non retarded command system?
>>98821611OPR funnily enough
>Bolt Action and Konflikt 47 don't get new editions at the same time>Rampant games don't get a new edition at the same time>as such you end up with staggered development and people saying "use X rule from [sister game]"
>>98821575OPR serves an important role in the /awg/, and that is keeping 40kuckold refugee players in the most 40k adjacent game possible and away from proper wargames with normal people.It serves as a sort of camp for runaway slaves so they don't have to taint society
I actually was one of the guys who worked on sister system to OPR that I found fun to work on, but I ended up liking systems that were faster or allowed for larger battles.
>>98821575wow, what an organic post...
>>98821661... do you not import rules from other games that work well or you like or think would be interesting to try?
>>98821108>>98821191Viktor battlesuit. The gay 3rd edition (UWZ) name for the updated vulkan battlesuits turned into a "mk 2" after 2nd edition collapse of the game. PA has a recent restock of Viktor battlesuits but those disappeared like hot cakes. Also thanks to Warzone Eternal all the jack holes on ePay have tripled their warzone mini prices, and since battlesuits are very rare on top of that, you're most likely to get some jackhole pricing an unopened box of battlesuits at $300 or such. Almost as gay as /hwg/.
Real men play defunct obscure 90s games no one's ever heard of.
>>98822089>EternalHow is it?
>>98822127I haven't even bought into it yet so am awaiting its horrid late self abortion myself.
>>98822162Didn't it already abort itself? There's this https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98743933/#98763517 and there's the fact that their now pushing the miniatures for One Page Rules
>>98822169It seems close to but the STLs have been passed on to a different company instead of the original dudes printing them for you. Thats the limit of my understanding though maybe someone else knows better.
>>98822252Unless they announced they went with some else out of the blue, they have no game designer, so I'd say its pretty much dead.
>>98822507Don't you think the minis all being turned into STLs already means it's an unkillable zombie game now? And that only means it can sit around until someone else takes over designing it for further releases? At least that's what I'm hoping this brave new world of printing means.
>>98822104Ok prehistoricals grampa
Behold my beasts of war project is coming together. I'm thinking the mammoth and bison will get howdahs and paintjobs to become Rasputin mounts, and the kaprosuchus will remain a overgrown extra attack doggo but maybe the templars attached to it will get a matching crocodile color scheme. Very glad I found the bison at the used bookstore two days ago after not getting the first one the same someone likely sold them. Literally tree fiddy.
>>98821626Again, who the fuck is playing xenos rampant in 2026?
>>98823002Who cares?
I think I've crossed the line from wargaming terrain to doll furniture
Posted by some fella on shitbook. My plan is to just out and out buy a whole one of these disposed of meme armies on ebay one day instead of invest in the game now since I don't want to play k47. You guys think k47 will last into a third edition?
trannies LOVE /awg/ anons
>>98823352Probably. If it flops, Warlord will try again in another decade or so.
>>98823373They get confused because they think /tg/ stands for transgender, then they stick around because toy soldiers appeal to all men.
>>98823373Kya?
>>98823682what is this meant to convey exactly
Has anyone here tried hex and chit wargames, like Battle for Moscow?
>>98822631While no longer bound to someone losing/breaking or selling the moulds to someone who would.It means the STL files are now at risk of the format becoming incompatible or being lost when the server they are held on breaks/is wiped.
Just wanted to share a screenshot from a game I am playing.
>>98823002I am playing nothing else but Rampants with my group, fag. Its just not much to discuss about it
>>98824220Arab Istaeli tank wars and Okinawa, loved both of them.Got me a khador ManO' War army for £45, full shock troops, demolition corps and bombardier units, chariot, solos and cars for the units, Sorscha 1, 2, and 3, mechanics, that warjack warcaster, 5 warjacks, and some other bits. Goes well with my old mk2 battlegroup box and widowmakers+doom readers.
>>98821035I hope you get raped to death.
>>98823002I play it with my son.>>98824780Yeah, it's a book with maybe 2 or three page FAQ. The lack of constant rules churn and no dedicated model range means there isn't much to discuss.Do you play with any house rules?
>>98824813>Arab Istaeli tank warsI looked into it and it seems reasonable. Is it more approachable than Mech War 77? Is it true that units move very fast?
I always thought Inexperienced units in Bolt Action should be a little tougher or close less. Maybe 35 or 40 percent less?
Man I wish I could buy from Khurasan
>>98825335yeah, samethose Bolshirats and Menshimice are great too
>>98824854Nah right now we keep pretty close to the book. It's a nice uncomplicated way to play 40k or Legion without all the complicated rules - just play with toy soldiers, roll a few dice and have a few beers. Look forward to play it with my sons in a couple of years
>>98825447slightly unrelated but do you guys have any idea why the hell most 40k players will act all belligerent and dismissive when people suggest playing OPR or Xenos Rampant or the million other rulesets that can work as alternative 40k rulesets instead of official 40k rules? This is despite the fact that they are constantly complaining about official 40k rules.
>>98825502Sunken cost fallacy. Explains most of it.Some 40k players are just waacfags that would rather play videogames, but suck so much ass at them that they turn to wargames where they can cheat more easily.
>>98825621>sunken cost fallacyBut the sunken cost mostly applies to miniatures, considering that 40k players are all too happy to never use their expensive rulebooks again every three years. You can use the same miniatures across multiple systems. It just doesn't add up to me, like I cannot understand their PoV.
>>98825502Because they're 40k players, not wargamers. You see something similar with fantasy players, some of whom get rather defensive if you criticise their janky and arbitrary ruleset. "It's fantasy, it doesn't have to make sense".To be fair, we can also be really annoying elitist cunts.
>>98825654My bad, the sunken cost goes way deeper than just models in the 40kfag. The modern 40k player is so retarded, that they really think you can't play the blue marines rules, because you painted your marines black.Some honestly think they can't play something else unless they get exclusive models for it.
>>98825335>>98825429Bongland shipping problems?
>>98825669Nah ships to UK (via you then placing your order through eBay so they deal with the VAT stuff) but won't to the EU at all
>>98821594>current year chasing in /awg/ lmao There's interesting games from two weeks ago and from before you were born, you can have both easily as the mood strikes.
>>98825668oh, like "I can't play this game because it doesn't explicitly say I'm playing with Ultramarines(tm) who fire Boltguns(tm)" tism? Well that just shows a profound lack of imagination on their part
>>98825674I phrased that badly, more meant >problems with the EU and UK shipping doesn't always work out but same result I suppose. Bummer.
>>98825695Yeah, there's also the notion that every fucking subfaction needs to have special rules for them to have flavour. You can't just build an army with a specific focus, but you also need to have super duper special rules on top of that.
>>98825335What is the middle one holding? A full size shovel?
>>98825695I originally thought it was a result of new people joining during the pandemic, but as anon point out >>98825705 newer 40k players are honestly retarded.Meanwhile the older players got infected by the same stupidity. It is impressive how stupid the 40k players has turn. Completely allergic to the hobby. Hell I've seen people refuse games because you are not using official models. Their so called "modeling for advantage"5th edition did so much damage to 40k with its true line of sight that it feels like WWI of 40k, happened long ago, but we are still seeing the after math of the fuck up
>>98825731My chapters veteran unit with jump packs and melee weapons is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from your chapters veteran unit with jump packs and melee weapons. The rules must reflect that!I haven't checked /40kg/ in years and haven't played it since fourth edition, but I trust what /awg/ says about the 40k community. /awg/ would never lie to me, right?
>>98825748>/awg/ would never lie to me, right?
>>98825748Some would think it is an exaggeration.But the amount of times I've seen the question in the local group chat "Can I run Blood Angels if I did not paint them like Blood Angels" some times more than once during the same week is just baffling.Worst part I'm starting to see it in Specialist games too. Oh Necromunda has some issues. Instead of using the house rules or alternative rules to fix the one issue the group has with the game. Immediately drop it for the new edition and proceed to bitch and moan about not having proper rules for their X gang. The entire thing is like dealing with a class full of retarded children that can't stop looking at the shinny new ball
These 40k players are stuck on james' plantation, simple as. Only use their models, only use their paint, only use their snippers, only use their glue, only use their brushes, only use their dice. Can only play the current rules or stop, can't play older editions that they and their community actually like. Warhammer fantasy replaced by slopmar? Just keep playing with your friends and peers? Nah sperg out and set your army on fire or smash it up. Unpainted armies, mechs without their arms, tanks without their turrets, don't take things you like you never know when x or y will get nerfed/buffed. L shaped ruins slop terrain, objectives are just circles put down x inches away from y or z. There is no casual play because everything is down stream from waac tournie players who constantly cheat and cheese.
>>98824665>screenshotThis isn't a place for videogames.
>>98825502Because I don't want to use your smoothbrain rules, gw has gotten worse by dumbing down HH, why the fuck would I switch to a system that makes that *worse*?And all you niggers cheerleading for this by saying "oh you don't need special rules to differentiate your armies, one unit is exactly the same as an other", why not just play chess then?OPR and its ilk are a gateway to the situation we find ourselves in now where the fucking historicals have escaped their containment thread and now want us all to paint 3000 6mm musketeers we can push round with little sticks.
>>98825797It was very funny watching Vince Venturella's recent video on the newest "tone pro" citadel paints and seeing him get utterly flabbergasted by influencers posting shorts and videos of how it's self-leveling as if it's some sort of new miracle paint. "Self-leveling paint has been industry standard for a long time at this point, every other company has self-leveling paints, I am not going to glob a bunch of paint on this model just to show you that, it'd be stupid." Meanwhile the GW goblins are chimping out about GW playing catchup like it's the Second Coming. They are nice pigments, though, just shitty pots and overpriced.
>>98826122>utterly flabbergastedMy honest reaction to every new GW model.Not because they look bad or anything, but because they are not models for a wargame too much crap and in odd poses nor proper display model like a scale kit parts in the sprue are placed at random and with no consideration about how the product will look once assemble. Like massive joints over muscle
>>98825761Proprietary brainrot disease.They think they need permission to play with their own toys in not-officially-approved ways.The solution to such people has always been vicious mockery, shunning, and periodic punitive violence.
>>98826060nice bait faggot
>>98822631Are they still 3d prints when bought at retail?
>>98826060>now want us all to paint 3000 6mm musketeers we can push round with little sticks.idk sounds kinda based to me
>>98826060Having to jump through multiple hoops and rolling multiple sets of dice for a single action isn't good game design in my opinion. I like to focus more on tactics, maneuver and command friction. Not memorising the ins and outs of the intricacies of the opposing army. A set of generic profiles with a wide variety of universal special rules upgrades is good enough for me.
>>98826300I think command friction is a good mechanic, and it's something I liked about Oathmark, which is more associated with historicals.
>>98826305Yeah, I think it's cool that units don't always do what you want them to do.
>>98826314This is why LGS owners kick people who don't play Warhammer out, because you're all fucking freaks who are into weird shit like this.
>>98826333Even TOW has some command friction, like frenzied and impetuous units, even if their rules are implemented a bit differently.
>>98826333Literally no lgs does that.
>>98824931I solo played it to learn the rules and found it flowed really well, even with one person playing both sides (designing 3 plans for each side each turn then dicing to see which they followed). But I havnt branched into the more advanced rules yet.
>>98825502They're lifestyle consumers. They have made The Brand their personality, so anything that "threatens" The Brand is a threat to themselves.
>>98826354Moxie Games.
>>98826384This, they're afraid that if they played an alternative ruleset with the same models that they wouldn't be "true fans." This is besides the fact that there are literal fucking secondaries who have never and will never touch a miniature who call themselves "true fans," it's an arbitrary label.
>>98826401Not looking it up, if you can't state your case then you don't have one.
Hussite knights with great weapons sprue. Cross-compatible with the other Hussite knight kit, but no spare great weapons unfortunately.
>>98826452I mean it is really nice but its such a jump away from usual Northstar plastic sprue designs.They are so damn good, wish I had any use for them.
>>98814047They're fucking rad! Care to share the stl mate?
>>98826452They're really nice, I'm honestly blown away. Finally going to start that asoiaf force I've had in the back of my head.
>>98825967that's virtual tabletop, get with the times grandpa.
>>98826769So a videogame.
>>98826780Fuck off furfag.
Can anyone recommend an Osprey or a game for the Utah War? I would like some details on equipment and uniforms.
>>98826796old memes are old, are old. average /tg/ poster doesn't even know who command keen was
>>98821021>emulatelol i'm trying to play a game not accurately simulate a knightly duel you fucking plank
>>98826796Still a videogame.
>>98826931Keep trying then smartass. You would have already succeeded if the rules were fitting the job.
>>98826060>the fucking historicals have escaped their containment threadTheir thread died. There were probably less than 10 regular posters. You are entirely correct about differentiation and customizing things to one's own preference being a big part of the whole idea. GW's bit is finding ways to monetize that interest to the detriment of the game. Even historical guys, or perhaps especially historical guys, can be very particular about the specifics of various units, equipment and vehicle variants in different time periods, theatres and such. I don't particularly need rules for 12 different kinds of hyperphasepulse blasters but having 3-5 and another half dozen different things from there gives variety over time. A lot of the current rules lite hyper abstraction is for games no one really intends the audience to play more than a dozen times so it doesn't matter as much there's less options.
>>98826801take it to /hwg/
>>98827095I find it funny mostly because when 40k 10th edition dropped people call it OPR but retarded.
Played Steel Rift again, a huge 350 point game on a 4x4 instead of 3x3.
>>98827162This isn't Titanicus what the FUCK NOT BASED
>>98826801Dracula's America, I'd be inclined to sub in the rules for the Dagonites as the Mormons and it calling them to the ancient shrines under the salt lake. Even things like the Nauvoo Legion sound occult. But you could use the Salem Sisterhood instead probably.
>>98827162Hee hee
>>98827168Ain't I a stinker
>>98826452>6 two-handers>2 spearsI can actually work with this.
>>98826801The era's a bit off because DA is post ACW but the guy in charge of the Feds going out to stomp the mormons ended up being a reb so there's easy tie in there. Running various local tribes as skin walkers taking advantage of the situation would work well too given how local indian alliances were to the mission. Could do early ACW tensions with the later day saints guy, forget his name, trying to influence the conflict, some bandits just trying to make a buck, some pinkertons. That's 6 warbands, throw in the arbitrator's weird west monsters and you've got the fall/winter's campaign for this year.
>>98822848What's with that glass bird?
>>98822848>Hurricane walkerKINO
>>98827331That's the first time I've ever actually seen one. Must admit it looks a lot better than the book art made it seem.
>>98826122I also found it very funny, I saw some guy gushing about how well the paint goes on straight out of the pot as if it was some new thing and then he showed it and it's just pre-thinned like half of the other common mini paint brands.
>>98822848you have some more pics of warzone stuff also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EMDF5nwfLg
>>98827442Prethinned but full price
>>98827162>>98827171I like the robotsthe game doesn't seem half bad either, although I prefer combined arms
>>98827180how does the game handle with that many models on each side? most of the vids I've seen were like 3-4 on each side
>>98826549isn't it just a small pet project of the owner for a random battle that interest him?
>>98827399It's a prodos one. The OG is lumpy like a WW2 plane it's awesome. One on epay is 250 right now and one 200 bc of warzone eternal shenanigans.>>98827265That's for smoking weed while I touch my toys. The parrot starts to talk to you after you light up, clever joke by the maker..>>98827452This video is new? Cus it looks like one I saw by a faggot who just talks shit about warzone cus he's a james Warhammer simp.
>>98825967This is actually a .png. I made that myself and am happy you thought it was from a computer game.
>>98826840I'm 31 and I know who Command Keen was.
>>98827901You'll probably have better luck with hex and chit stuff in /bgg/, though it's not common there either.
>>98827779I got this one, after I decided to repaint it it's soaking in the workshop for the past 4 years lol. The leg joints were fucked straight from the box.Yeah vid is like day old
>>98827550There are options for tanks, flyers, infantry, bunkers, and artillery, and we intend to try them, but they're not as interesting.>>98827570It goes on for longer, obviously, and the first two turns are pretty bloody with so much dakka getting thrown about, but as holes open up in your line, mechs become damaged, and scoring becomes necessary/possible your decisions end up carrying much more weight than when there are only a couple guys around. You get a little bit more forgivness for mistakes when you have lots of models but getting ganged up on is a LOT easier.
>>98827779I didn't mind a lot of the wackier designs in Warzone - quite the opposite - but the Hurricane just threw me straight out. I think it was because it looked exactly like the sort of model mashup I did when I was like 7 or 8; take the front of an Airfix fighter, glue it onto some Transformer legs, et voila.It would be a boring world if we all thought the same, though.
>>98825335I love Khurasan. Their 15mm and 6mm scifi ranges are some of the best I've ever enjoyed. Why can't you buy from them?
>>98826305>Oathmark >Command friction It always makes me chuckle when warhammer dorks play some bland simplistic normie /awg/ game and are blown away by the mechanics
What's the deal with all the autism and sperging out about historicals in this thread? What is it about historical gaming that causes fa/tg/uys to seethe? In my experience the historical community has always been the most chill and welcoming out of any "traditional games" tabletop community and the most "normal," with Warhammer being on the opposite end of the spectrum
>>98828343I lost the pic some hard drives ago but yeah some dude kitbashed a hurricane out of a model plane like that. I wanna say it was something aggressive looking like the me262 maybe.
>>98828571See if it was actually the friendly grogs that do actually play historicals and go to shows like Partizan there would be no bother. But it isn't.
>>98827452What's interesting is Steele in the comments saying he's still the lead designer on Eternal.
>>98828582Seems likes it's /awg/ spergs fucking up this general and raging, not /hwg/ guys.
A lot of the chatting on here is like 70% hating on specific games and not actually playing any games or promoting any specific rules in any specific rulesets.My money is on being bored and being "no games", including not even solo games.
>>98828571>>Rank and file redcoat boomers trying to take over awg when they own everything already.Give me liberty or give me death you evil greedy fucks.
>>98828582I'm pretty sure its the same guy trying to stir shit up. He's already posted about how chill and awesome the historical crowd is compared to the stinky /awg/ chuds several times in the thread already.
>>98828620>>98828617>>98828571>>Samefagging boomer talking to himself You walk TOWARDS the light grampa.
>>98828521Ah, I see the smelliest person in the thread has arrived.
3d printed terrain has gotten so good. No reason not to have a fdm printer in 2026
Two of these are the same guy, possibly even replying to himself.
You can tell it's obvious bait because there is very clearly a small group of people who are pretending to cumming and shitting over historical games, but one of them at least, is pretending all of the pretend trolling drama is just historical against alternate.
>>98828882I find printed terrain, especially buildings, to end up looking too artificial “perfect” compared to scratch built stuff, though the convenience is a plus if you need a lot
Truth is that historical games are played by pedantic boomers, rivet counters, highschool teachers, church youth pastors and other christcucks. Fantasy is high art and is enjoyed by patricians, college professors, and other archaeologically Informed academic heathens. Mixing the two topics together was always bound to be a source of conflict and division
>>98828982So you're arguing warhammer players are less subhuman than historical gamers? Really?
Played some more dungeon Frostgrave. Dice were against me and I pulled out after securing one treasure while my opponent got three.
>>98829180I wanted to get into frostgrave but the combat roll system is so unpleasant to me
>>98828571>the historical community has always been the most chill and welcomingCounting or not counting rivet-counter violence?That aside, the biggest issue with /hwg/ (like with most of /tg/) is that pretty much none of the regulars are actual wargamers, just nogame armchair historians and generals, so there's very little productive discussion outside of memes and trolling. Now that they've scared all of the other fags away and barely have enough people for a general, they come as refugees, hoping to do it all over again here.Many fags in /awg/ are also nogames who spend the day shitting the thread, so they feel threatened by the new kids in the block coming to leave this thread like your average Indian street. This means our shitposters are also putting more effort in shitting the thread, so at the end of the day, the quality of the general takes a nosedive in both fronts. >>98829120He's dropping the blandest, most obvious ACME brand bait ever and you're gobbling it up wholesale. Ignore and move on.
>>98829218It took me a bit to get used to how swingy it is, but eventually i realized the reason for that is that swinginess is necessary to avoid snowballing. Your knight with a magic sword and magic armor isn't that much of a problem if he still goes down to a lucky thief sticking a dagger in his armpit.
>>98829218That's one of the best parts of the system, humans don't inconceivably level themselves out of threat range of any monster, even at level 100 a skeleton is still a threat.
>>98828083As janky as the big metal and resin minis could be, the brittle big resin ones from back then were much shittier to work with. You going for classic bong shit mud brown or something else?
>>98829241Well ten years ago we had plenty of battle reports, devs sharing their wip rules and painting projects. That's all gone and it just ended with the closeted post physique/anti-Bong shitposter being responsible for 90% of traffic.
>>98829618I'll never forget the time I talked about my passion to do an anglo-afghan project and some anon, a geologist in Montana, sent me a box full of hundreds of metal vintage Anglo afghan minis that he had laying around, completely for free. That's the /hwg/ I used to know. We used to have monthly painting projects, an exclusive secret Santa separate from the /wip/ one exclusively for grogs. But the best part of old /hwg/ was that the general was full of true grognards, who could answer any questions about any obscure military conflict and prattle on about specific tactics and drill, and who knew a mini manufacturer and ruleset for literally anything you asked for. It was an actual repository of knowledge and experience. Genuinely I don't know what happened to 4chan as a whole, not just /hwg/, but trolling isn't the root cause. Trolls and shitpost have always been here and everyone tolerated it because next to the knowledge and passion of the posters the trolling made it all fun. Nowadays it's missing the knowledge and experience and passion, it's just the trolls. I see the trolls often mock /hwg/ and historicals in general for dying, but the truth is that all of /tg/ is dying in the same manner, /hwg/ has always been smaller so it's just on a faster timeline, everyone else is only a year or two behind /hwg/. Compare /awg/ with how it was 2-3 years ago and it's shocking. Compare it will 10 years ago and you will weep
Will there be a command sprue for Northstar Bohemians ?
>>98829702A commander in that period is wearing the same armor as his men and standing shoulder to shoulder with them.
>>98829685>Nowadays it's missing the knowledge and experienceThat's pretty much it, most of the people that made this place interesting either aged out of 4chan, found better hobby spaces or outright got fed up with the vibes in here.4chan has been getting enshittified for over a decade now, in good part due to it becoming the defacto platform for outcasts and also gaining fame as le edgy racism platform, which attracted undesirables and trolls like flies to warm shit. Many cool projects were born in here, but people don't really want to carry the reputation of being the 4chinz game designer when selling their project, nor do they want the constant negativity and low effort posting of nogames anons just trying to bring everyone else down to their level.Hell, back in the day I spent time cleaning pdfs, artfagging and homebrewing out of sheer enjoyment of the community and comfy vibes; nowadays I rarely post more than twice a week and close the tab as soon as I see the same stale bait and pointless bickering. It's sad, but the best we can do is keeping our hobby alive, playing lots of games and enjoying on our own slaves, with our own groups.
>>98829741Regardless, a command sprue should include bits for musicians, standard bearers and maybe some alt weapons/decorative bits for variety.
>>98829779>musiciansNot needed>Standard bearer Is included in the box>alt weapons/decorative bitsIncluded in the box
>>98829702Nevermind there is a command sprue and its pretty nice I am just blind.
>>98829685>>98829771The trouble is, I don't know where else to go. Where else can you post your stuff and have a decent /tg/ community where people engage with you and discussions with a modicum of free speech? I certainly would have left 4chan by now if I knew where else to go. I've tried Facebook, but it's all boomers posting meaningless "looks great!" comments and you have to post under your own name and face. Reddit similarly doesn't have meaningful conversations, and anything less than toxic positivity gets you banned or censored.
>>98829685>>I see the trolls often mock /hwg/ and historicals in general for dyingnigga it's all your crotchety old prehistoricals friends who are dying that's your problem
>>98829902I think the answer is engaging with people directly in-person or on social media. I've had some good interactions with others on IG by messaging directly, otherwise it's just "Looking good!".
>>98829989I live on an island off the coast of BC. There is no one to engage with outside of an online community
>>98829998Oh, I remember you. Well that's rough buddy. Maybe the answer is private online groups to keep the shitposters out.
>>98829978What's funny is how several anons accurately diagnosed how this place has attracted social outcast/undesirables, and then you show up right on cue kek
>>98829837>>musicians>Not neededBro who will signal when the dinner is ready in your army?
