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Teeth on Battlemechs, Y/N?
Can a drawfag please edit this image so Cranston Snord is holding the White Monster he so desperately needs? Thanks!
>>98836853We got claws and talons, we should get teeth and hooves.
>>98836898Individual toesies.
>>98836907I think that can be handled with a quirk.
>>98836898Speaking of which where's the series of wolf themed quad omnimechs with claws to celebrate the Ilclan? I thought this was the era of clan supremacy, where are your totem mechs?
Here's the status of the Periphery Realm at the end of the last thread.===Location: The Draconian DriftFounding Era: Clan InvasionGovernment: Hereditary Feudalism (Low Central Authority)Interstellar Communications: C-Rated Service (or equivalent Post-Comstar)Average Technology Ratings: D (4)/D (4)/D (3)/D (4)Experimental Tech (Inner Sphere at War Ratings (see pic related), determined by the roll for the Averager-2 (cannot go below Average, determined by pic related's Battletech)): 6/6/3/5Inhabited Worlds: 6- Rubicon (Name not officially suggested, taken due to image attached to roll)(Pre-Star League Colonization) - 80 Million- ???- ???- ???- ???- ???===Rolls:Population (Roll 4d6 for each planet) (Highest population roll will be the Capital world.)If First Die is 1-2, Colonized during Star League or Earlier ((2nd die for small vs large, all four for pop)>1-5: 10 Million x 4d6>6: 100 Million x 4d6If First Die is 3-6, Colonized post-Star League (2nd die for small vs large, last 2 numbers for pop)>1-5: 2 Million x 2d6>6: 20 Million x 2d6Nature of Founding (1d6)>1: Displaced Pirates (Potentially Dark Caste if clans exist at founding)>2: Active Rebellion against a different polity (whoever gets lowest on relations roll)>3: Misjump to Founding World (may/may not be current capital)>4: Previously forgotten or abandonned worlds that consolidated into a new polity>5: Defensive pact against an External Threat>6: Ambitious Single Planet ruler engaged in conquest; declaring new nationExternal Relations (1d6)>1: Hated>2: Disliked>3-4: Neutral>5: Liked>6: TrustedOne roll for each of these "nearby" realms:-Draconis Combine-Lyran Commonwealth-Minor Periphery/Hinterlands-Clan Wolf-Clan Jade Falcon-Clan Hell's Horses-Clan Diamond Shark/Sea Fox-Clan Goliath Scorpion/Scorpion Empire-Rassalhauge/Ghost Bear-Outworlds Alliance/Raven Alliance-Other Non-Homeworld Clans
>>98836940The Wolves are boring, so they just make bipedal gunboats and slap 'wolf' in the name. No fun allowed in the ilClan.
>>98836958Feel free to make suggestions on stuff to roll for. I'm largely winging this with occasional input from a sourcebook like Campaign Operations or the Inner Sphere at War stuff.
>>988369743/5ths of those were made by the Foxes, tho.
>>98836974The Storm Wolf kinda looks like one, fwiw.
The Rasalhague Dominion seems pretty cool. Actually kind of tempted to buy some ilclan era mechs.
>>98836940The Wolves have the Orion IIC, so never felt the need to make a "real" totem Mech.
>>98836984Only the storm wolf afaik, and it was directly commissioned by the wolves. Alpha wolf, war wolf, wulfen, artic wolf, tundra wolf, are all clan wolf originals.
>>98836984>3/5ths of those were made by the Foxes, tho.The Wolves should really sue for copyright infringement.
>>98836940I honestly think it's a missed opportunity that every Clan doesn't have a decent spread of retard totem mechs. This is a silly setting, lets do the whole dog and ponybot show.
>>98837010>and ponybot show.The Heck Ponies do seem to lean into this most strongly.
>>98837005Good point, I was overselling. Mad Cat 2, 3 and 4 (which does officially have a Wolf name) were where my mind was.
>>98837016They only have one actual horse mech, but they do like quads a lot.
>>98837023I forgot about the Savage Wolf. Yeah, that one's all Sea Fox.
Horse 'mechs mentioned, reposting my Balius.
>>98837046Looks Awesome, Please share the files somewhere
>>98837046God that cockpit looks retarded.Not your fault, you did an amazing job. Those flames are sick.
Rolled 2 (1d6)>>98836958Rolling for relations with Clan Jade Falcon
Rolled 2, 2, 4, 6 = 14 (4d6)>>98836958Lets roll up another planet, lets call this one Golgotha where the populace did something to annoy the Jade Falcons in the past.
>>98836958>Experimental Tech (Inner Sphere at War Ratings (see pic related), determined by the roll for the Averager-2 (cannot go below Average, determined by pic related's Battletech)): 6/6/3/5Am I reading that right? Can they make Battle armor?
>>98837430I don't think tech ratings bypass era restrictions. Put another way, The Inner sphere had the capability but not the knowledge to build BA in 3049, since they made working examples as soon as they got samples.
>>98836898SARATH MY BELOVED. Now we just need bladed tails.
>>98837046You have done the most unfuckening possible. Great work.
>>98837491>as soon as they got samples.Maybe that's why the Falcons don't like 'em
>>98837430In prototypes and for some of the Elite forces on their capital, at least. Same with Star League E-rated units. But outside of said forces, it's mostly Succession War / Age of War D-rated forces.Someone might have occasionally picked up a piece of Clan-rated F tech that goes beyond that from Clan Diamond Shark/Sea Fox if those relations don't turn out to be in the gutter, but those would be single one-offs or few-offs that doesn't really count for what native production is like.
>>98837491Inner Sphere at War actually has restrictions on how high you can develop your tech depending on your starting Era, at least in the "Second Succession Wars" sourcebook if not in its original incarnation in the Interstellar Operations/Interstellar Operations: Battleforce book (might have it in there, but I have Second Succession Wars open, as that's the one that did some updates to the tech mechanics to include stuff like tech regression).But with these guys having a founding during the Clan Invasion, we're well past these restrictions. Clans are pretty much intended to be in the 8s, 9s, and 10s, depending on how much you want to mock a specific one. And we're probably looking at how this Periphery nation is looking like after having been around for a bit, probably in the FedCom Civil War or Jihad at minimum (while I did group in stuff like the Hinterlands and Scorpion Empire, I was not strictly implying IlClan, just that if those things were around, that's what their opinion would be about the same as).
Rolled 1 (1d6)>>98837556>In prototypes and for some of the Elite forces on their capitalMight see some Ravagers stomping around come the JihadRolling for the Nature of Founding
>>98838056Very triggered and owned. I deeply desire the respect of the sort of person that would create such an image, and I'm crushed to realize I don't have it.
>>98838056It makes me feel like you should buy an ad.
>>98838056
>>98838056Would you like me to validate your dolls or are you too much of a big boy for that?
>>98836853Surprised it hasn't been done yet. Nothing says "so that fear itself will be our ally" like coming across an Atlas "eating" a light.
Is there a random assignment table for mercenaries in the late 3rd Succession War (say around 3000)?Also, the Great Houses initially had weight averages for each of them, correct?Is an average weight breakdown for mercenary units?
>>98838056Great, because I love Flashgitz and actually saw the video when it came out, so I know their comments on Battletech were "It kinda reminds me of Mechwarrior. Oh yeah, Mechwarrior was awesome!"So it's just them being filthy vidya secondaries. Also, their new Small Soldiers vid is excellent.
>>98836813>This game is too hard :/ you actually need to be good at exploiting terrain to win. I just want to charge forwards and bully mechs with srm's and autocannons.This but unironically. I don't want to think. I have to do that at my job. I should be able to win based on the list I brought, not because I'm having to work hard during the game. Games are supposed to be fun, not work.
>>98836817test
>>98837750It probably wouldn't be Ravagers proper given the Marians only finalized those in 3084, which is Early Republic. Flip side, the Marians are on the opposite side of the IS from where the clans came in and were only able to startup the research program with help from the Wobbies in what sounds like the FedCom Civil War era with some delays when the Wobbies were kicked out.Given these guys were apparently founded by pirates kicked out from their original areas by the Clanners and proceeded to conquer and create a brand new nation in the Clan backline, they can get started as soon as they succeed in stealing some Elemental Battle Armor via unexpected dezgra shenanigans.How close or far that ends up from the Ravager will probably depend 90% on which suit they steal. Once we know the opinions of the Clans on them, might be worth making a set of RATs to roll on for that using the clans that don't like them to find out who they stole it from and what was stolen.
>>98838341It would be more likely for them to get IS Standard given that IS Standard is actually at least three or four "different" designs that are all suspiciously similar to each other and all but one started production with minimal to no public R&D. Having gorilla suits because some of the pirates were on the front against the clans is entirely reasonable.
>>98838355True. Though relevantly, the Tunnel Rat series does make mention of a set of mining exoskeleton having been made during Star League. Since there's at least two Star League/Pre-Star League planets, maybe they found a set of them in an old mine that got shutdown/abandoned and research on them plus the ongoing displays of Clan Elemental's BA is what is leading them to create a local IS Standard? One that favors a bit more of an industrial look leftover even though its equipped to Elite units as a side effect of this origin?
>>98836817I support the Dragon and a woman's right to Chose.
>>98838581It is every female samurais right to choose how she commits pregnant sepukku.
>>98838581Yes, women who dishonor the dragon are free to commit seppuku *or* jigai thanks to Theodore's currently very well received and highly popular amongst government officials reforms. Or else.
>>98837046>My mecha pony, friendship is dezgra.
>>98838589kek
>>98836817• Fedcom Liason: "Gosh, I thought he'd be happier in his true habitat."• Clan Refugee Worker: "Oh, I think he is."• Fedcom Liason: "Then why is he attacking his captors?"• Wildlife Refuge Worker: "Well,clanners are a lot like people, Mrs. Simpson. (00f) Some of them act badly because they've had a hard life or have been mistreated. (oof) But, like people, some of them are just jerks.(Malthus rams griffon repeatedly into atlas foot)Stop that, Star Colonel Malthus.
Rolled 3 (1d6)>>98836958I'll roll for Drac relationship since that'll probably dictate some things what with the location
Rolled 5, 4, 1, 2 = 12 (4d6)>>98838751>>98836958Interesting, so JF dislike us, DC, are neutral, we formed during the Invasion, and we have access to experimental tech...Well anyway rolling for the third planet
>>98838751While officially that is neutral, I almost feel that to offset the baseline Draconis Combine opinion about other nations you need to have done something they really liked. Especially with the Pirate Founding roll in >>98837750.
>>98838806What if, like, you strapped a jihadi to your mechs fist so that it exploded when you punched someone?I'm sorry I'm terrible at structured play.
>>98838806The mech company attended the coordinators niece's violin recital.
>>98838794>>98838806So we're basically the Republic of the Barrens
Rolled 6 (1d6)>>98838806Deniable asset/buffer? The Dracs subtly send some technicians to help us build some industry for the experimental tech we figured out ourselves and in exchange we basically free up some of their manpower by fighting Clanners near us?Officially neutral but under the table allies?I'll roll OAW/Raven Alliance to see how that changes things
>>98838836RoB are on good terms with HH, though.
>>98838956your first mission is to take out an equivelent of BV in Kodiaks from Ghost Bear in an ambush, round up. zero retreat protocol, if you retreat you will be executed.
>>98838984powered down in the middle of a snowstorm, you engage with kodiaks point blank. make it a variant without all the stupid ERML's
>>98838993If you succeed, you will be fully reimbursed, all mechs replaced or traded in for full cash value, and you will receive a fat lump sum payment, and full salvage rights.Fail and you receive NOTHING
>>98839002not only that, but you will be hunted by Kurita until the end of time, your broken company left in shambles as you are hunted to the ends of the galaxy.Good Luck, Mechwarrior.
>>98838956I assume a 6 means we're tight with the Ravens?Maybe we let them use as as a base for coreward deep periphery patrols that they use to make sure that the star adders aren't coming to get them.
>>98838984>>98838993Can I use Savannah Masters?
>>98839026And if that isn't allowed, can Hover SRM APCs be used in place of Savannah Masters
>>98839026Well, its not very honorable, but you ARE vile gaijan mercenaries, so..
>>98838984They got purty mouths.
>>98839062Honorable Kuritans rape their enemies AFTER their dead, to honor them.
>>98839039There is nothing more honorable than victory. Even the Clans acknowledge that fact.
>>98839094unless they losethen victory over them is dishonorable
>>98839020I'd want to say we're tight with the OWA, which leads to good relations with the Ravens when the RA happens. Couple that with DC being Neutral, and our pirate origins, I want to say we started off as a pirate kingdom out of necessity, went legit and made diplomatic ties with our neighbors, and act as a buffer/reinforments during the Clan Invasion against the Clanners. Obviously the OWA would probably be a lot more openly grateful for that than the Dracs. Maybe we even provided some heavy ground force projection as a sorta vanguard for the OWA's relatively weak conventional forces, and they provided us strong air support and more transport capabilities to ease logistics.
>>98839103>Its not dishonorable to get your dick sucked!>Its dishonorable to suck dick!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oflKrBIMmCw
>>98839113Are you going to fight the kodiaks or are you going to be a bitch?
>>98839118>Guys, it it gay to get a blowjob from a woman?
Rolled 3 (1d6)>>98839142I don't need a reason to curbstomp furriesanyway rolling for Hog relations
Rolled 5 (1d6)>>98838806>>98838956What if they absorbed a bunch of Dark Caste during the invasion, which gave them some inside knowledge into how the clanners think and that's how they ended up befriending the Raven alliance? Maybe even doing a mini version of the Raven Alliance, only without the battleships or fancy clanner tech (Besides the couple of elemental battle armor and possibly a few omni's to carry them which the dark caste brought with them)Lets see what the Diamond Sharks think of this fledgling pirate state.
>>98839256awful lot of background for some kodiak food.
>>98839160So why th not great blood with the Bears? Border squabbles? An "accidental" raid?
>>98839259>hahaha if I tell the same "joke" over and over someone will laugh
>>98839263Personal Beef between commanders.
>>98839263If we keep running with the buffer idea, Hogs were probably happy for some help, but that meant the OC state's biggest opposition was Bears, Cats, and Jags. Ghost Bears dislike us, Hogs like us, and that leads to a mixed response that's basically neutral when GBD comes into existence.
>>98839259>Kodiak foodJust challenge the bears to a game of space football and then surprise them with your full team of dark caste elementals.Don't need to deploy a single mech to win a Batchall after all.
>>98839292That dude is fucking awesome.He looks like he pours coffee over shards of glass and eats it for breakfast.
>>98839292his boots bigger than your face.
>>98839292its kind of hard to issue a batchall during a murderous ambush in a snowblind.
>>98839302>No Witnesses
>>98839160>Hog relationsWho are the Hogs?
>>98839292oops
>>98839311Rasalhague
Rolled 3 (1d6)>>98836958What does clan Yiff think of these fledgeling pirates living in their backyard
>>98839263>not greatBeing on neutral terms with a clan probably just means that they don't think about you at all.
>>98839091Wait, seriously? Where is that in canon? If it's true, I'm switching to Dracs first thing. There's nother hotter than a cold dead girl.
Rolled 6 (1d6)>>98836958LyrCom roll
>>98839344>Yes, please god, keep a few clanner units focused on the opposite border, please!kek
>>98839344Steiner funding periphery pirates to annoy the clans backyard? Its more likely than you think.Would also make sense why the only one of the three big clan zones that dislikes them is the Jade Falcons.
>>98839354>State funded piratesUh, we prefer "Privateers", thanks.
>>98839344Well that at least explains how they got design schematics for battle armor.
more like jade failcons
Rolled 6 (1d6)>>98836958>Minor Periphery/HinterlandsMight as well round off the Spheroid/Periphery relationships, rolling
>>98839363>Uh, we prefer "Mercenaries", thanks.ftfy
>>98839380>OWA=6>Lyrans=6>Periphery overall=6>Even Dracs are Neutral Jesus, and we started out as pirates, and somehow ended up heroes of the Spinward Periphery. This has to be the Face Turn of the century.
Rolled 6 (1d6)>>98839390Even the sharks like us at 5Lets see about the ponies
>>98839404>I see you're a combined arms chad, I run combined arms myself
>>98839404Holy hell, thats the most gonzo shit I've seen in a while. the fucking moonboots really sell it.
>>98839390These aren't just any pirates, they're pirates with a dedicated PR department.
>>98839417It's ok when you loot Clanners, it's baked into their rules. If anything it would be disrespectful of their culture to not steal everything not nailed down. We're an open minded people.
>>9883941580's Sci-fi was cringe but free
>>98839450truly, it was so.
>>98839446>Being some of the first spheroids to adopt the tradition of issuing Batchalls they managed to not get obliterated during the invasion (It's just a more formal way of saying "your money or your life" after all)>Their infamy only growing when they turned their desperate struggle for survival into a smash hit mini series that attracted funding from not just the Lyran Commonwealth, but even some of the more open minded clanners wanting to secure publishing rights as their entertainment industry was sorely lacking.
HONOR THE DRAGON!
>>98839450That's 90s.Late 90s
>>98839467>Be pirates, >be free and among friends>New guys come from further up 'North'>Lots of scary weapons, but really anal about dumb rules>They're like samurai but somehow even more autistic >Play along because it gets you the cool, shiny loot easier>Gaming them is actually pretty easy once you figure out how to work within their weird battle etiquette>Other factions start noticing how hard you're winning>Offer you recognition if you keep winning because every little bit of attention off them helps>lol sure>Keep winning>Great Houses start backing you with advanced industry built on your claimed worlds in exchange for some of that sweet loot>Hell yeah>Before you know it other states are treating you like a band of heroes >Even some of those Clan guys think you're cool>feels good man
>>98839494
>>98839494>Gaming them is actually pretty easy once you figure out how to work within their weird battle etiquetteJust keep bidding a single mech so they have to duel you or lose face.
>>98839526Basically, numbers don't mean shit if you can just bid down to whatever works best for you in any given engagement, and Clanners have to go with it because their leadership will look like pussies to their subordinates if they don't, and that leads to having to fight off other Clanners gunning for their rank.
>>98839541Clanners regularly subscribe to the philosophy of "it's only dishonorable if you leave witnesses".
>>98839541>Waddaya mean Trinary? All I've got is a single mech and some hovercraftAnd on that day a new legend was born
>>98839526Pros of following Zellbrigen with Clan Opfor:- Bid down to a single mech to reduce repair costs- Expectations of transparency and honor- You can always turn around and cheatCons of following Zellbrigen with Clan Opfor:- You have to be able to win duels against Clanners- You have to be able to win duels against Clanners- You will probably have to turn around and cheat unless you're fucking jacked with seasoned lancemates because- You have to be able to win duels against Clanners
>>98839562>- You have to be able to win duels against ClannersSkill issue
>>98839549Funny, pirates are big fans of that too
>>98839562A big con for pirates is no melee under Zellbrigen
>>98839570Historically works more often for the clanner in a dire wolf than the pirate in a one armed urbanmech.
Rolled 1, 3, 4, 6 = 14 (4d6)>>98836958Going by the good relations between both the Sharks and the Horses, I'd imagine that, post invasion, the Pirate State ends up of a major trading hub in the Northwest between interested Clans and Spheroids.Might as well roll for the third(?) world
>>98839576that doesn't apply to their opponents, just to clans themselves. its like their golf handicap
>>98839579Historically clanners don't offer Dark caste zellbrigen but just exterminate them.Given their good relations with most of the clans, clearly they did something right to impress them during the initial invasion.
>>98839576Melee isn't actually formally against the rules, it's just looked down on and they tend not to do it. If a Spheroid engages in melee but is otherwise following the rules, then Zellbrigen would still technically be maintained. Though the Clanners in question could still throw a shit fit over it, so it'd probably be something the pirates would want to hold off midnight until they're in a position to get the most out of engaging in melee.
>>98839582That would be fourth>>98838794>3/4 planets are colonized during the star league or earlierI get the feeling that this was once a SLDF outpost out in the periphery and that's why the clanners were on their best behavior around the facilities, viewing them as distant cousins who didn't join them on the exodus.
>>98839593What is the point of giving your mech a sword that cannot hurt other mechs?
>>98839593I'm going under the assumption that at least a couple of the pirates in the band are actually pretty fucking cracked in mech combat. Possibly as a result of needing to be good enough to fight samurai in past raids. Presumably the pirates that former this new nation are a cut above the usual dregs that run pirate bands, otherwise they would have gotten steamrolled like all the big time pirate kingdoms in the region did, like the Oberon Confederation and the Greater Valkyrate.
>>98839607>viewing them as distant cousins who didn't join them on the exodusWouldn't they view those worlds as traitors then? Or theirs by right, which might have been why the focused on these worlds despite being a bit of a detour from their goal of Terra, and the pirates earned their respect from the fights they got into.
>>98839627>Wouldn't they view those worlds as traitors then? Or theirs by rightI mean that's also what they think of the houses, but it would give the pirates legitimacy in the clanners eyes and if they then proceeded to win in trials of combat they could then earn their respect.I was more talking about something which might elevate them above dark caste, even if the pirates aren't even descendants of the original colonists. If their leader is savvy enough they could still leverage it to get more favorable terms during the Batchall.The star league is sacred after all and here are free people who are not under the joke of the houses.
>>98839607>I get the feeling that this was once a SLDF outpost out in the periphery and that's why the clanners were on their best behavior around the facilities, viewing them as distant cousins who didn't join them on the exodus.>>98839622>'m going under the assumption that at least a couple of the pirates in the band are actually pretty fucking cracked in mech combat.>Possibly as a result of needing to be good enough to fight samurai in past raids.>Star League outpost forgotten about in midst the fall of the Star League. >Need resources since SLDF decentralized trade falling through fucked them as hard as it did the rest of the Periphery.>Take a page from the First Hidden Secret War that spawned the Gunslinger Program>Mainly by going to DCMS Periphery facing troops, Ronin, and retired Samurai and needling them for duels until they angrily accept>They mostly humor it because they're fucking bored anyway. >There's a handful of DC militas, house guards, and DCMS officers in dead end positions who fucking hate the annoying pirate band constantly rage baiting them into fights, but also low key grateful for any kind of real actionBasically Dennis the Menace shenanigans, with Dracs as their Mr. Wilson.
Rolled 1, 3, 2, 3 = 9 (4d6)>>98836958>People keep forgetting to name the planets when rolling for themRolling for planet Cats Bane
>>98839657Oh right, I'll name >>98839582 Dreamers' Bay
>>98839607What is this weebshit art? Mechs aren't Gundams.
Rolled 3 (1d6)>>98836958>4/5 pre-SLDF colonization>Winning their initial Batchalls against the clans through clever use of zellbrigen and dueling in favorable conditions, the pirates manage to secure themselves some breathing room by claiming ancient SLDF heritage, saying that they will only submit to whichever clan manages to claim Terra, since they can only recognize the SLDF and not any one individual clan.>Due to their bravery and victories in battle the clans end up honoring this agreement during the invasionThat should at least buy a century or so's breathing room, hopefully they'll have forgotten all about that come the Ilclan era.Rolling for relations with the poison addicts
>>98839706>What is this weebshit art? Mechs aren't- ACK!
>>98839706That art depicts a jumping Phoenix Hawk IIC; an 80 ton assault mech defined by its 400XL engine and jumpjets permitting it to move almost as fast as its 35 ton lighter predecessor. It runs 8 and it jumps 5; and if that makes it a Gundam, then it's a fucking Gundam.That's not even the fastest Pixie IIC; there's one that jumps 8.
>Be pirates>No one dislikes you except for the angry birds>Being disliked by CJF is usually just the starting point since they don't really like anyone>Not even hated by themThese are some gentlemen like pirates to be se well received by literally everyone around them.>The only pirates who announce their arrival upon entering a system, avoiding infrastructure damage (So they can raid you again later but not too often) and relentlessly heckling whoever has the biggest mech to come duel them in an open field of honorable combat.
>>98839706Every single mechwarrior fan will be DOMINATED by trve battletech fans
>>98839777
>>98839772>Pirate Band has developed a sense of etiquette>It's not necessarily honor, they're still robbing you, but they're clearly having some fun with it>Dracs would get challenged to 1v1s or lance on lance>OWA to space fights>Conventional troops to some tank on tank>This is usually a diversion since some of them one group is robbing you behind your back, but they don't destroy any infrastructure or kill civilians>They'll even raid other pirates who are mid raid because they don't like other bands in their territory, and because the Captain finds it really fucking when they stealing another group's dropships mid raid.
>>98839792>really fucking*really fucking funny
>>98839792>This is usually a diversion since some of them one group is robbing you behind your back, but they don't destroy any infrastructure or kill civiliansI am now imagining a heist with battle armor.>Start out with elementals claimed as Isorla and bondsmen>Graduate to Lyran Battle Armor once they start sponsoring your little pirate stateA single point of elementals can rob so many banks you wouldn't believe.
Rolled 4 (1d6)>>98836958I think everything else on the relationship list is finished, so I'll do the general non-Homeworld clans roll
>>98839873So with the exception of the Hell's Horses and Diamond Sharks, Most Clans are neutral towards us with the exception of JF who don't like us. I'm kinda assuming the 6 we have with the Raven Alliance is more because of the OWA and the Snow Ravens just sort of inherit that close diplomatic tie when they merge.
The Pirate Band probably think Battle Armor is the coolest fucking shit ever.I'm going off the assumption that the Mechs in the band are obviously important, but rarer because they're a minor Periphery power, so the bulk of their forces relief on tanks and infantry. Some of the better infantrymen getting to be minimechs in cool power armor must feel fucking rad. Even when they go legit as a recognized nation with help building up some mech production, I can see BA production going as hard as they possibly can. That and plenty of tanks.
Rolled 2 (1d6)>>98836958Goliath Scorpion wasn't rolled, so I'll do that
when will mekhq come back with the core rules including BSP units while we wait for the new combined arms rules. I want some campaigning!
>>98839940It was rolled here>>98839714>>98839892>I can see BA production going as hard as they possibly can. Considering it was only at experimental level, I imagine the most they can pull off is repair and maintain the ones they have gained through either fighting the clans, or being donated some by the Lyrans who see it as an excellent propaganda opportunity, along with helping distract the clans. (hopefully)The hardest part to reproduce is undoubtedly the micro fusion engine, but there would probably pop up an entire industry around customizing and blinging out each of those rare battle armors with all sorts of accessories as the armor gets replaced with periphery substitutes.
>>98840000Ah ok, permission to have this >>98839940 be Comstar roll instead?
>>98840013>Comstar dislikes periphery piratesMore news at 11, guess that's why we don't have HPG
>>98840000>micro fusion engineBA runs on batteries.
can you tell me how a 5'8" spheroid guy wears BA designed for an 8 foot tall gorilla mando the clans have to manufacture and store BA in a wide range of scales to account for elementals of different height or is the battle armor somehow adjustable>aw dang we do not have any 2.5 meter elemental BA, I guess elemental jordy will just have to sit this one out
>>98839892>The Pirate Band probably think Battle Armor is the coolest fucking shit ever.And they would be correct
>>98840033>can you tell me how a 5'8" spheroid guy wears BA designed for an 8 foot tall gorilla man
>>98840033Hammer Space technology.Also, when being put to the job, the team the Fedsuns were on made two BA controlled from cockpits.
>>98840056>Fedsuns were on made two BA controlled from cockpits.>yfw Protomechs are the result of clan scientists seeing this and saying "we can fit an entire genetically engineered midget into a giant elemental with that strategy!"
Rolled 2, 4, 1, 5 = 12 (4d6)>>98836958Rolling for the last planet Ouroboros
>>98838589How can a star of Balius pilots learn about the magic of friendship?
>>98840145Beach volleyball.
>>98840033>can you tell me how a 5'8" spheroid guy wears BA designed for an 8 foot tall gorilla manYou get some Dark caste elementals who didn't enjoy being laborer caste to wear them instead.
>>98840033IS BA is designed for baseline humans, though BA troopers do have to be larger and stronger than average. I assume the armor is at least somewhat adjustable, as it's not quite form-fitting (see the picture in >>98840040)
>>98840213I'm pretty sure kai allard liao just uses elemental BA at some point without issue.
Compiling all the rolls that were done, we got these for the planets:Golgotha: 140 Million??? (was >>98838794 ever named?): 6 MillionDreamer's Bay: 140 MillionCat's Bane: 90 MillionOuroboros: 120 MillionSo a combined population of about 556 Million.-The founding nature is "Displaced Pirates"-Rolled For Relations are:Hatred>No one, somehowDisliked>Jade Falcon>ComstarNeutral>Draconis Combine>Rassalhauge/Clan Ghost Bear>Clan Wolf>Clan Goliath Scorpion/Scorpion Empire>Ohter Non-Homeworlds ClansLiked>Clan Diamond Shark/Sea FoxTrusted>OAW/Raven Alliance>Lyran Commonwealth>Minor Periphery/Hinterlands>Clan Hell's Horses-We've got a tie on population, so need to do a tiebreaker somehow. I think instead of doing a roll off, I'll build out a few charts of planetary features and that will be the deciding factor.We probably also want something that indicates their thoughts on the FedCom Civil War and the Jihad, but I think I may hold off on building that out because at the moment all I can think of is a generalized "level of investment" that indicates how much they gave a shit. Maybe incorporating Word of Blake opinion into the Jihad roll.
>Crap news first. Unfortunately CGL has pushed the release of the Battletech Core Box back another 2 weeks. Release date is now officially November 11th.Of fucking course
>>98840300Isn't it out already? I bought one from my LGS a few weeks ago. The box with a Regent, Mad Cat II, Uziel, and a bunch of other mechs.
>>98840276>6 Million>Only planet not named>Only planet not founded pre SLDFI think I figured out why so many merchant clans like us.
>>98840314They really are trying to push this dumbass ilclan bullshit, aren't they?
>>98840327The box is like half FCCW mechs and half DA/ilClan era ones.
>>98840327It makes sense from a marketing point, sell new toys that only work in the new era, so that when people want to play in an earlier era they need to go buy the old plastic toys (Which conveniently also work in the new era).
>>98840314It's even available over here in Dutchland Europia, both the starterbox and the corebox maybe they mean the second wave or something. Usually BT availability sucks over here.
While I work on painting up my new Annihilator, I need an origin story and a mercenary ranking for my company.Command lance: Annihilator, Archer, Rifleman, BlackjackAssault Lance: Atlas, Archer, Warhammer, BlackjackScout/striker Lance: Wraith, Phoenix Hawk, Locust, Wasp(Yes I know, it's just the alpha striker starter box and the wolf dragoon's star ;_;)All I have for ideas is either someone trying to copy the Wolf's Dragoons tactics to ride on their success and branding to get contracts. Or just a typical Lyran social general buying the biggest, heaviest assault he can get his grubby hands on to go with the family Atlas.
Going over this timeline no longer in Sarna.net:https://web.archive.org/web/20220625144723/https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Manufacturing_TimelineSarna.net cited TechManual and TRO 3075 on the BattleAxe and Ymir being built in 2459 and 2462 respectively. I assume that was retconned through the Proliferation Cycle series (where it was shown that it was the Lyran Commonwealth who acquired what they needed to make their own mechs from the Terran Hegemony, followed by the Federated Suns acquiring what they needed through deals the Lyrans reluctantly offered)?
>>98839157All sodomy is spiritually homosexual
>>98840054Fwiw, this is canonically a propaganda cartoon, so this scene probably didn't "really" happen.
>>98840054>>98840540Kai Allard-Liao figured it out, and he is not as tall as an Elemental.
>>98840276Sorry, didn't think to name it. Let me go with >>98840326 and call Neo Bazaar.
>>98840556Plus a mass produced piece of equipment like the Elemental BA would need to obviously be capable of adjusting itself to fit around different individual Clanners, even if the Techs need to manually do it. A suit that won't fit on most available people is pretty worthless for a military staple, which was probably one of the most annoying roadblocks to reliable Power Armor in setting to begin with.
>>98840556But we gotta keep in mind that he's probably only a quarter Davion, so he should be a pretty lanky dude.
is it worth buying the introductory box just for the rifleman and centurion
>>98840682It's also based on an industrial suit worn by regular ass workers. The elementals were a completely separate program of beefed up super infantry in a completely separate clan. The Yiffers put 2+2 together, trialed for the suits on one end and the super soldiers on the other, militarized them, then said they had a new unit type and it stuck.
>>98840825>is it worthNo. The game is completely model-agnostic.
>>98840825You should be able to get them cheaper from resellers, there's a good one on Ebay, but with it being as discounted as it is and supposedly still coming with a $20 coupon for Catalyst's online store it's probably worth it if you plan to buy anything direct from them.
>>98840825yes. give your money to the mormons.
>>98836958>>98840276Next set of charts:Dominant Culture's Terran Origin (1d20)>1-2: North American>3: Central Amercian>4: South American>5-6: Western European>7: Eastern European>8: North African>9: West African>10: Central African>11: Southern African>12: Middle Eastern>13: Central Asian>14-15: East Asian>16-17: South Asian>18-19: South-East Asian>20: OceaniaDominant Religion/Philosophy>1-25: Christianity>26-45: Islam>46-50: Buddhism>51-65: Hinduism>66-80: Shinto>81-90: Agnostic>91-100: OtherIf Other is rolled (1d100 and divide the result by 4, rounded up. Or 1d25):>1: Judaism>2: Deism>3: Yoruba>4: Sikhism>5: Ahmadiyya>6: Spiritism>7: Mu-ism>8: Ayyavazhi>9: Druze>10: Rastafari>11: Hoahaoism>12: Cheondoism>13: Chanters>14: Church of Starry Wisdom>15: Cult of the Saints Cameron>16: Exituri>17: Far Lookers>18: Lorix Order>19: Nesbit Foundation>20: One Star Faith>21: Scientos>22: Shepherds of the Void>23: Suk Requiem Believers>24: Unfinished Book Movement>25: Worshippers of the Great DelphiRoll once on the following charts for each of these systems (We'll do a strawpoll after this to determine the capital):-Rubicon-Golgotha-Neo Bazaar-Dreamer's Bay-Cat's Bane-OuroborosUnique System Features (2d6)>2: Frequent Solar Flares>3: Ancient Minefield at Zenith or Nadir (Determined whether first or second roll is a 2)>4: At most 3 worlds in the star system>5: Mineral Poor Asteroids>6-8: Nothing Unique>9: Mineral Rich Asteroids>10: Recharge station (1d2 for Zenith/Nadir)>11: Reclaimed Star League-era Space Station/Lunar Outpost>12: Functional Jumpship ShipyardUnique Planetary Features (2d6)>2: Frequent Natural Disasters>3: Highly Dangerous Wildlife>4: Reliant on Food Imports>5: Poor quality minerals>6-8: Nothing Particularly Unique>9: Significant Raw Resources Production>10: Heavy or Assault-class Battlemech Factory>11: Large Planetary Dropship Factory>12: Formerly Abandoned Star League Facility
>>98839605>>98839583Didnt Kai Liao challenge a Jade Falcon guy to a 1V1 melee duel because all he had left in a Hatchetman was his hatchet? If you expressly establish that the rules of a duel is melee only I think the clanners will abide by it, they'll just think it's a shitty duel
>>98839706Mechwarrior and it's consequences have been a disaster for the mechatard race. Battletech mechs are literally based off of anime mechs, they inherently move in an anime way
Rolled 6 (1d20)>>98841039Let's go South Africa, let's get Apartheid in here.
>>98841069Nope, that's gay and retarded. They move like AMERICAN construction equipment and when they use jump jets or do karate shit its Liao or Kurita propaganda.
>>98840327How many years now have they been putting out boomertech nostalgia stuff? Get over it old man
>>98841095I am going to sniff you.
>>98841080Don’t let this guy see Macross or Dougram, let him believe…
Mechs move like a guy in a big rubber suit.
>>98841073>Western EuropeanWe Landsknecht now
>>98841136Majestic
>>98840395>https://web.archive.org/web/20220625144723/https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Manufacturing_TimelinePer XTRO:Primitives I, the Lyrans stole the plans for the Mackie in 2455 and began production of it in 2459. In the interim the sold the tech to the Suns, who fielded an original design before the Lyrans managed it. For most (probably all) factions, the first 'mech design they produced is the the Mackie.
Rolled 6, 5 = 11 (2d6)>>98841039GolgothaUnique Planetary Features
>>98841171>omg warhammer!
>>98841171>11: Large Planetary Dropship FactoryMaybe that's why everyone either likes or tolerates us, we can make and repair dropships.Guess the ties to the ancient ties to the SLDF weren't just a bluff after all.
>>98841197Golgotha is from the bible, but I feel like the combined arms faction of giant stompy robots, tanks, dudes in power armor and infantry fighting off green hordes of alien invaders on a desert planet, was somewhat more appropriate,At least until someone rolls dominant religion.
>>98841039Rolling for religion If 91-100 then Taoism
Rolled 69 (1d100)>>98841246fug
>>98841253>Shinto>Western EuropeansI guess we're weebs then, the Dracs won the culture war.
>>98841221Everything from 40k is from something else just made grim dark and awful.I kinda like the pro wrestling camp, I'm not big on the TT of 40k at all tho.But this is about BT, so lets talk mechs ffs.How's everyone feel about the Enfield?
>>98841353>EnfieldVisually it's a Chameleon without hands.
>>98841267Time to organize the militia as Ikki shrine leagues, I guess.
Rolled 5, 4 = 9 (2d6)>>98841171Rolling for Golgotha's system
>>98840825No. The Rifleman is equipped like a regular Rifleman, though the pose might be different. The Centurion is unique (it has a claw) because it represents one particular character's customized mech. If you're really into that guy, go for it, otherwise it's not useful. The other lance packs that come with Riflemen or Centurions are better buys.
>>98841391wow, you're right... but it's an enforcer in all but name ironically.
I assume the battle reports for the Kapteyn Academy will start coming out next week. Correct?
>>98841445I was just gonna amputate the claw and call it close enough, but thanks anon.
>>98839622corsair is so ugly it becomes beautiful
>>98841150Ultraman Z was excellent.
Rolled 2, 4 = 6 (2d6)>>98841039I'll roll system features for Cat's Paw.
Rolled 6, 5 = 11 (2d6)>>98841803>>6-8: Nothing Uniquefugg. I'll roll up the planet features as well, I guess.
>>98841807>Gee how come mom lets you have TWO Large Planetary Dropship Factories?
>>98841642What *is* worthwhile is the previous Beginner Box with the Vindicator, because it hasn't been put into any other boxes yet.
>>98841699>tfw I can't launch my hand actuator at a mech to deliver a punch at range
>>98841146Obvious AIslop
>>98841830would such a thing be dezgra because bunching=bad or kerensky halal because fancy missile gud?
>>98841846Convene the council.
>>98841846Speaking of missiles. Advanced Strategic Missile when? I want super arrow iv
>>98841894This is literally the correct choice. The bloodnamed must argue autistically to make the correct decision, ideally capped by a Trial of Grievance of the tards that won't accept the consensus.
>>98841916>>98841894
>>98841904Arrow iv but all the ammo is designed to kill people engaging in different types of dezgra behavior.
>>98841916Robot Jox had rocket fists, therefor it is a cross American / Japanese consensus that rocket fists for giant robots are cool and is therefor peak battletech.
Tesla has strapped jump jets onto a car. Who is going to strap an autocannon to it and make a Kanga IRL?
Rolled 2, 3 = 5 (2d6)>>98841039Planet Ouroboros system features
>>98841991>Mineral Poor AsteroidsAnd planetary features?
Rolled 2, 3 = 5 (2d6)>>98841997
Instead of sperging about sementics, who's got the mormons in BT and are there any knock offs in lore?
>>98842167I think Marik has just about every religion
>>98842198iirc the Mariks have the most Jews? Maybe it's somewhere in Steiner space actually. Last time I researched this I think most of them live on a couple planets. Imagine how obnoxious those planets are
>>98841198We should make some sort of weird obsolete DropShip, like the Lion.
Rolled 5, 5 = 10 (2d6)>>98841039Dreamer's Bay unique system roll
Rolled 1 (1d2)>>98842330>Recharge station (1d2 for Zenith/Nadir)
Rolled 3, 6 = 9 (2d6)>>98842344>>98841039Zenith recharge stationNow planetary feature roll
>>98840157They should make Top Gun 3, except its just an AI generated gay porno starring Tom Cruise and Val Kilmer. Just 3 hours of buttsex without a plane in sight.It'd make billions.
>>98840069that mech is coming at me with "Who ate the last pizza roll" energy
>>98842545It's not even a mech.
>>98842583the point stands.
there is never an appropriate time to post this.oh well. enjoy.
>>98842781i like this picture cause you don't have to guess who colonel motherfucker is.or wu tang, for that matter.
>>98842583>protoMECHit says it right there idiot
>>98842247Or more likely the ubiquitous and humble MULE, which the periphery has a long history of modifying since its just a merchant vessel.Which have the added advantage of being able to be upgraded into pocket warships
>>98842781Heroic.
>>98842808not all heroes wear capes.or refuse to commit war crimes.
Rolled 4, 1 = 5 (2d6)>>98841039Rubicon's system
Rolled 1, 1 = 2 (2d6)>>98842846>4: At most 3 worlds in the star systemAnd the planet?
>>98842847>2: Frequent Natural DisastersHow appropriate
>>98842799Since its specifically a Large Dropship Factory, it could be that ~100,000 tons of Dropship can be produced per year but how that all gets split up depends on the factory. So we could choose to declare that it expends that all on producing 1 of the 100k ton Behemoths, 5 of the 20k ton Colossus per year, or 52 of the 1.9k ton Manatees. Or some combo of multiple different dropship classes that totals up to 100k.Maybe a max of 3 different types per factory?
>>98842853Weirdly fitting >>98841146>Western European At this point we might as well lock in the Pirate/Buccaneer theme.There's nothing more freeing than the life of a Freebooter.
>>98842860>Manatees>1 Cargo bay (fits 396 tons of booty)>4 mech bays>6 large lasers>12 medium lasersAt 52 / year I think production would far outstrip demand for mech transportation at that point, leaving lots of surplus production for cranking out Mule's or other ships for the civilian sector or selling to other nations.Union is another classic ubiqutous potato design.
>>98842857>you'd be able to pull your heads out of your own asses and see how wrong you areI'm not involved in this debate, but I've never seen, "Just think about it and you'll realize my religion is more correct than yours," change any minds.
>>98842860There's also the Aqueduct. They are THE liquid movers in the setting that no one talks about because everyone leaves them alone for some reason. It even comes standard with mechbays, but it's most likely for engineering work like connecting and disconnecting hoses and cables. Probably Stingers or Wasps for their hands and jumpjets.
>>98842929Well we're in the Periphery, so it'd probably be a good idea to have a variant that focus on ferrying tanks and aircraft too. It's starting to sound like the Pirate Band is a naval power that can hit above its weight class, albeit it's weight class is pretty small to begin with. They probably go nuts with Pocket Warships when those are introduced.
>>98842908Given the double large plantery dropship factories on 5 pre SLDF founded worlds.The clan founding era.And the nation being founded by displaced pirates?This feels very much like every single periphery pirate getting pushed out of their homes by the clans, only to make a desperate last stand at one of the only free ports and shipyards in the area.The survivors establishing themselves as a small trading empire in the clanners backyard.
>>98842969Small Pirate Band that took in the survivors of the other pirate states to size up into a full on fleet/trader hub
>>98842969>>98842978That's kinda already a thing with the Belt Pirates of Star's End. They had so much asteroid based defense in-depth and a functional enough shipyard that the clanners would have had to divert warships and delay their invasion of the Draconis Combine in order to deal with them. So they didn't deal with them, at least during the invasion.
>>98843017Yeah let's not bother with a bunch of losers who got steamrolled, the Pirate Band would just dilute its greatness.
Guess we're just missing Neo Bazaar for the planets?
Rolled 1, 1 = 2 (2d6)>>98843029>>98841039Right, rolling for NB system feature
>>98842908>Pirate/Buccaneer theme.Buccaneer DropShip!
Rolled 6, 4 = 10 (2d6)>>98843033uh ok, I guess that would explain why it's the youngest settlement with the tiniest pop. Rolling planetary feature
>>98842969I think the earlier idea with the star league outposts that turned to piracy out of neccesity and did it via dueling kuriatans is the best way to explain everything.
>>98843043>Heavy/Assault Battlemech production Oh hell yeah, though I'd have been tempted for another large dropship production site. If the planet is relatively recently populated, then this factory is presumably new?
>>98843054With the rest being SL colonies I think the best way to explain it is that it was a SL facility that has now been reactivated, or perhaps it had a SL basis but has been expanded/ is being expanded.
>>98843039At least some of the Dropships should be Buccaneers, it fits too well
>>98842908Don't forget the shinto religion, though.
>>98843068I'm thinking the Band, being a Periphery pirate band, relied mainly on combined arms and saved the mechs for the commanders and aces to handle drac duels in the past, so reactivating in-house Battlemech production is a big deal. Now we just need the most fitting mech to build. The easiest answer is a Banshee variant, it's very fitting for pirates, but we have plenty of options.
>>98842964>They probably go nuts with Pocket Warships when those are introduced.>When>>98843017I think we solved the mystery of how they pulled off not only surviving the clans, but ending up on good terms with almost everyone.>It ended up just being cheaper and easier for the diamond sharks and snow ravens to go in and set up some shipping contracts, instead of braving the minefield of hidden pocket warships scattered across six systems.
>>98843082
>>98843082I like to imagine that, while primarily European, the tradional relationship between the Pirates and the Dracs, plus the shared religion, means there's been plenty of Dracs that ended up mixing into the state and there's some Wako culture here and there among the different crews that make up the state.
>>98842824Skill issue, it's only an warcrime of you leave any survivors to tell the tale.I am almost done painting a catapult, soon it will be time to think up something to do for basing.
>>98843071Catholics have 'you shall have no god before me' as the very first commandment, and it's kind've rich to hear about idolatry from someone who believes in "Exalation".>>98843089Catholics do not and have never worshipped Mary, nor the saints, that's just slander. But I'm sure you know that already.>>98843115I was thinking Wako too. Drac exiles (and maybe refugees and slaves) mixing in over time explains both the culture and part of the neutrality, since they are culturally Drac in many ways.>>98843090That fits nicely.
>>98843068Another option is that it's a factory they slowly built in secret, since the constant solar flares presumably make it harder for Drac scouts to find the facilities buried deep underground to protect all the electronics.The great houses have a tendency to go out and kick over any mech factories the periphery tries to build after all.As for which Heavy/Assault mechI would personally recommend the Warhammer-6R, it's a classic every man mech and quite deadly when swapped to its C variant with looted / purchased clan techBeing Rugged, Ubiquitous, stable and even having searchlights.While also fitting the dueling theme nicelyYou don't need that many assault mechs overall, better to have your average pirate member be equipped with weapons that make a clanner think twice.
>>98843090Shogun maybe? There'd be a certain irony to it, and it'd be pretty much the last pre SL fall factory in existence.
>>98843154If we go with the idea that it's a new factory that was built on NB specifically to hide from the Dracs, a Merlin would make the most sense considering the location and our good relationship with the OWA.
>>98843169Merlin Mechs to be shipped around by Merlin dropships
>>98843154The warhammer is very good but I feel like something more 'totemic' would be appropriate, even though the warhammer was an SLDF favorite, it's also damned ubiquitous. I was thinking the Banshee since it's a pretty established pirate 'mech and with the excellent commonwealth relations it's not crazy to think they had help getting a variant that isn't shit, though the shogun is also a good choice.>>98843181The merlin is a new dropship made all the way in the League. I think the Legion is better, for both SL and Clanner ties.If we're going with something totally new than a merlin or banshee factory would fit best, and if we're going for something older than a shogun would fit that and also be mildly amusing to everyone involved.We could also potentially have it produce two mechs, or only one mech but parts and support for another, though this would firmly establish the realm as very much on the up-and-up and powerful without some factor to drag it down.
>>98843202A Banshee variant where the faction is their own thing but has some cultural osmosis from the Dracs and industrial backing from the Lyrans? Probably a PPC boat with maybe something like TCM and a hatchet provided by the Lyrans. Maybe MASC?
>>98843202>even though the warhammer was an SLDF favorite, it's also damned ubiquitous.That was partially the idea, even the clanners will buy spare parts for warhammers because they have a ton of them in their solahma units.And that means their factories can churn out spare parts for far more important things.If you're going to build a mech factory in secret and you have access to insane amounts of shipping through dropship factories, you should pick something you can sell to absolutely everyone.>Purchase the periphery special today!>1 Manatee and 4 WarhammersAs an added bonus this also means more money for the ultra expensive, experimental battle armor project.
>>98843071>MuslimsNot what moonies means.
>>98843222>TCM and MASCSounds more like the ultra pimped out command mech desu
>>98843181>R1 isn't sold to mercsI know that it's a bit much and there's still the Arondight and Excalibur Pocket warships, but it'd be nice to have a sub capital laser battery in orbit
>>98843169>A 60 ton vindicatorI don't fancy your chances in a Batchall piloting that thing.
>>98843256what a shitty meme
>>98843159>Mech suddenly reappeared in 3005 when the Wolf's Dragoons showed upI don't want to be involved with the goons...
>>98843282
>>98843290hurrr, lol
>>98843290kek
>>98843295
>>98843347i think it'd work better with word of blake.
>>98843381
>>98842857Do mormons and prots even have a play that isn't lying about what Catholics believe?
>>98843347i thought for a second it read "Jade Buffalo"I was like, "were there some lore changes recently?"
>>98843396Mormons: New HotnessCatholics: Old and Busted
>>98843429I thought you weren't even allowed to call yourselves Mormons anymore since the boss guy said it was a naughty no no word.
Do you prefer the Sweet Tooth head Akuma or the Oni Mask Akuma?
>>98843445I'm not religious, I'm just a slave to trends.
>>98843391>not >(broad)casting couch
>>98843429>>98843396Uh, this is a Shinto thread now, chuds.This is a Kami praising general.
>>98843567radical shinto kami anarchy: a turtle is a kami
>>98843611>Kamis in my Ships>Kami in my Planes>Kamis in my Mechs>Kamis in my tanks>Kamis in my Guns>Kami in my Home>Kami in my Brothers>Kami in my Soul>My gods are with me every step of the way, landlubber. Can you say the same?
Had a thought on why the Clans might like the place:>Long ago, a kid was attacked by a wolverine they innocently assumed was fine>Intense PTSD>Kid rises through the ranks of a pirate band or mercenary group in control of one of these worlds, eventually gaining command>Tries to hide fear of wolverines by trying to twist it into sage wisdom "never trust a wolverine" and shit>One day, Clan Wolverine Refugees/Minnesota Tribe enter system on their way to the IS>PTSD threatens immediate attack>Held back by 2IC who manages to arrange a meeting>Captain agrees against better judgement, goes there for diplo>Clan Wolverine commander reaches into pocket>Paranoia and PTSD running high, cap thinks this is a cross and is going for a gun>Cap attacks, ripping off one Wolverine patch in process>2IC tries to calm him down>Cap kills him as traitor and kills him>Fight way out, manages to escape with handful>Wolverines leave because cannot be bothered>Cap tries to spin it as 2IC really was traitor and it was a setup to kill him under truce flag he got out of>Credibility gotten as 2IC writings reveal really was traitor>Years pass>Legend grows>During CI, displaced pirates arrive at the then five systems bringing word of the Clans>Loose trading coalition sends in all forces under Pirates>Clans arrive>Force Commander says they throw out the Clans like legendary captain threw out the Wolverines>Clans confused but very interested at mention of Wolverines>Tale told>Batchall: Have Proof?>Eventually find the patch taken as trophy in mausoleum (shrine?)>Clans say they won the batchall and nation is safe until Ilkhan is on Terra>Sealed by recorded ceremony where patch is destroyed as an evil artifact
Samurai invented big dick energy. Africans had big dick energy, but it lie dormant cause they were all chillin bbqing chicken. Samurai know what it means to be pissed off. That is why they harness their ki to project big dick energy and perform feats of strength and combat prowess.
>>98843567That is its.
>>98843724Do not underestimate the japanese penis. It is like a highly compact, highly effecient four cylinder engine.One day, your cruisin' along in your 6 cylinder rear wheel drive camero, thinking your hot shit, the next minute, japanese imports have taken over and Ford and GMC need a bailout from the taxpayers.
>>98843567Does that make Amaterasu our nation's patron goddess/waifu mascot?
>>98843824will you stop pining over your child bride you homo. Its smells like Muhammad up in here.
>>988432354/6 banshee rocking tsm, supercharger (cannot have masc AND tsm) with an IS plasma rifle in each side torso? maybe a 3rd in the left arm? light engine, clan xlfe or sfe only. but if its clan xlfe, then you get only the lyrans building it in the same plant their 12S comes from.
>>98843154>10 tons of armor>70 tonsNGL, the warhammer is actually garbage. Any mech that isn't within 8 points of max armor coverage can't be good by definition. Your mech needs to survive. There is never a good enough reason to cover it in as much armor as possible.
>>98844125Probably can't get Plasma Rifles or Light Engine, although maybe a late era variant?I'd say TSM, ERPPCs, Hatchet, and FF armor should at least be reasonable in the timeframe the nation forms in. Maybe it has only SHS though.
>>98844032This man sniffs ragheads on a regular basis.
>>98844275ffs why'd you ban me this time you petty fuck
>>98844275kikes are creepy like that
>>98844281I can't help it, when I see a jew in the wild, I assume they owe me money and I see red.
>>98841823>Beginner Box with the Vindicator>no Alpha Strike card includedThis is why I have trust issues
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>>98844416I buy bootleg battletech models off the darkweb with paypal, you lil bich
>>98844145>There is never a good enough reason to cover it in as much armor as possible.Ah a fan of the original planetary assault mech I see.
>>98843567>This is a Kami praising general.
>>98844152Gotta remember that our tech rating is D across the board, we can't really make fancy shit but might be able to ship it in from some of our allies if we pay the outlandish shipping cost of getting past all of the clanners we're chilling behind.I know this is a list of mercenary mechs available from like 3058+ but I don't have a availability chart for clan era pirates, but something tells me they would have even less stuff available to them.Especially when all we have is a single heavy/assault factory hidden underground on a planet that gets bombarded with space radiation constantly.Would need a availability chart for either the Periphery or Pirates And also remember that just because the factory is not pre-SLDF, it was most likely built during the succession wars and not with fancy helmcore technology, since that would only be the houses and mercenaries who had access to that during the clan invasion.
>>98844430Clearly AI. Look at the artifacting. It's just been trained on anime.
>>98844537Now I kinda want a Grasshopper desu
A better question to start with when it comes to battlemech production is: Which standard engine can we produce?For example a Banshee uses a 380, which doesn't fit in a lot of mechsMerlin uses a 240Warhammer/Grasshopper would be a 280 Or a 260 for the thunderboltSince the engine is undoubtedly the most expensive part of any battlemech, the underground factory can likely only produce one size and then we'll have to use that for replacing most mech engines when they get wrecked beyond repair.
>>98844600Are those clicky tech mechs with 1/144 scale Gundam hangar bays? Those fit remarkably nice together.
>Things that a 300 rated engine will fit inside of>Dragon, Champion, Orion, Marauder, Flashman, Black knight, Atlas, King Crab, FafnirJust to name a few
>Orion has a quasi religious status among the clans>SLDF ties>75 ton generalist>Nothing fancy or hard to reproduce in it>Engine used for fast 60 tonners, most 75 tonners and even 100 tonners allowing for ease of repair/production/maintenance of mechs not produced locally.The poor mans Atlas sounds like a very tempting choice for mech production if you ask me.
>>98844702yeah but are there any good dueling variants of the orion?
>>98844716The Orion itself is a bit underwhelming but having more armor than your opponent is often a good dueling strategy
>>98844716Sounds like an excuse to make a periphery refit and unique variant, although there are some brawler builds that remove the LRM15 for more SRMsThe Gauss rifle variants are definitely out of our tech range however.Stuff that thing full of like 4-5 rocket launcher 20s instead of the SRMs and LRMs and you'll have a very deadly surprise for anyone dumb enough to accept a 1v1Other advantages include: Rugged, Easy to maintain and Anti-Aircraft targeting
>>98844716The simplest Orion periphery refitKeep the 2 medium lasersKeep the AC10 with 2 tons of ammoKeep the SRM4 with 1 ton of ammoPull out the LRM15 and its 2 tons of ammoReplace with six(6) Rocket launcher 20s for a surprise alpha strike that will make even a clanner think twice.
>>98844744I think it's a fine mech and one of my favorites but again something more 'totemic' and less common would i feel be cooler
>>98844776You'd have to make a brand new mech for it to be totemic, otherwise you're just encroaching on someone elses super special snowflake mech that only they get.Like for example replacing one of the arms with one that has a hand so you can fit a hatchet, moving the medium laser to the other arm and dropping a missile system to make room.
Which mech is this? I don't recognize it
>>98844811Cricket. One of the new 3150s mechs introduced in the ilClan-era Recognition Guides.
>>98844867>XXL engineThis thing is going to cost more than an assault mech despite being 30 tons isn't it?
>>98844885Light mechs with XXL engines tend to cost about the same as heavy mechs with XL engines. Which is still absurd, but nowhere near as much as heavies or assaults with XXL engines. Those encroach into dropship type prices.
>Dropship heavy pirate kingdom>Has access to battle armor in limited quantityIf we don't produce a mech that works for space combat and boarding actions then we are all collectively idiots with the wrong priorities.Jumpjets should be considered a must for dueling purposes also.Something like the Black Hawk U for boarding enemy vessels with a giant mech arc welder, sword and a ton a ton of machine guns, micro pulse lasers and heavy mediums lasers.Obviously for shredding battle armor after you vent all of the infantry and crew into the cold vacuum of space.Obviously we aren't going to be producing clan omnimechs, but I'm certain there either is an obscure space combat refit in the heavy/assault category, or some brave anon has an excuse to get tinkering.
>>98841997>>98841991>poor quality minerals on planet and in systemThis place was strip mined during the past five centuries wasn't it?
>>98844494i like capellan mechs
>>98844600Vlar 300 is objectively the best engine , followed by Pitban 240.
>>98845111>Jinggau>Huron Warrior>WraithI kneel, cappie sama
>>98845122>Pitban 240.The most cost effective method presents itself
>>98845122>Nissan 200 has entered the chatEvery medium mechs best friend, besides mobility is for people who aren't on permanent dropship factory garrison duty.
>The real reason they keep raiding the dracs is to steal PPCs for their assaults
>>98845009>If we don't produce a mech that works for space combat and boarding actions then we are all collectively idiots with the wrong priorities.>Jumpjets should be considered a must for dueling purposes also....>Phoenix Hawk PHX-HK2 is a D tech rating>Stinger LAM has multiple D tech rating versions>Wasp LAM has multiple D tech rating versions...no...no that can't be the solution...
>>98845260>>Stinger LAM has multiple D tech rating versions>>Wasp LAM has multiple D tech rating versionsClans hate LAMs on general principles. If we make LAMs, Clanners won't like us.
>>98840054They wear really tall boots, next question.
>>98845260>Medium>Light>LightHeavy/assault only (Fortunately)
>>98845260>champion LAM >uses the Vlar 300 engine>Obsolete prototypeIt's perfect
>>98836817I love them so much /tg/ it's unreal. And they shall tremble before our might.
>>98845401Depends on the Clan. Ironically having LAMs would actually fit really well when you consider how Ravens and Hell's Horses really like us while Jade Falcon doesn't lol.
>>98845009This feels like a good excuse to negotiate with Diamond Shark to have a local production line of Phoenix Hawk IICs in the future, but understandably wouldn't really make sense for the NB factory.I'm leaning harder on Grasshopper now personally.
What if we just roll for it? A mech by committee is just gonna end up milquetoast, and people seem to be prioritizing different things.Roll for the mech frame, then we can look into variants.
>>98845803Periphery anon will probably post a chart at some point
>>98845728It's not liking or disliking ASFs.LAMs are materiel miscegenation. In the Clans, you can be a Pilot or you can be a MechWarrior. You can't be both, period. QuadVees show up pretty late in the timeline and are frankly idiotic anyway.The Bears and Horses might be a bit more relaxed, I guess.
