Short kings of big things edition>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>98830191>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/>4e Booksgofile.io/d/KAQe7n7f>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator (old):https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread question:So. Will you be getting the box?
>>98839515>tqNah, I never particularly cared about dorfs to begin with and I'm not a fan of the basic infantry. I do think all the other units bar the valayan guard stuff is pretty good though.That being said, despite never caring about them before, the fyreslayer box is now calling to me...
>>98839515>TQProbably won’t Rules look neat, and big dwarf soup is something that appeals to me, but I’m holding out to see what the eoe brings. Also moneys tight.
>>98839515Nah. I might get the centerpiece and Hjulda for fun later but most of the range just doesn't do it for me. The golden rule is that you should like your faction's basic troop and they might be one of the worst offenders in that regard. And it's not like they offer you a tempting alternative elite or cav list either.>>98839525I'll be getting this to round out my slayers collection with a third droth instead. Outside of that promo runesmiter and new character my collection will be complete.I might have to nab a second grimwrath while I still can too.
not a dwarf fan. i just hope we get a better 5th. Give us generic spell lores, artifacts and such things. give us actual list building choices.
>>98839559trolltrader had a bunch of the promo runesmiter a year or two ago when i got mine for a pretty good price. might be worth checking out if they ship to your region.
>>98838272>>98838370>>98839456>What should the next army for Death look like?Like anons mentioned in the previous thread GA is basically horror tropes: the army, and that well has almost been exhausted. I mean unless we go further back but I don't know if battletome: fu-manchu would fly these daysWe do still have mortal death cult and frankstein stuff that could be spun off into their own armies. Both do have some problems though, like the hypothetical frankenstein construct army would be stepping on the toes of OBR, who are already doing that stuff but with bones instead.Also I feel like vampirates are more likely than both simply because they're already and established warhammer thing, even if they're kind of derivative of another faction. I suppose in AoS that doesn't matter that much because we already have like 7 of those.Lady of flesh for mortarch of a cult army in the likes of picrel would be kino though. How many of those are there supposed to be anyway? 9? I think we're at 6 now.As a sidenote for some reason I thought shordemaire was mentioned as a mortarch but he isn't. He should be, a zombie dragon mortarch would be cool.
>>98839585Just did a quick search for recasts and it seems I'm good but honestly it's not exactly my favorite FS model anyway. His legs just look weird. Pretty neat cloak and beard though.
>>98839515>of big thingsBig for a short kins
>>98839525I was waiting for a box that has 2+ droths for a few years now, but this might be the best the closes GW is willing to give me...
>>98839601I mean technically that box has two of them...But yeah two of the big ones might be a bit much to hope for from GW. Have fyreslayers ever had a christmas box? I don't think so, that'd be the only real avenue for a double droth box.
>>98839601Still kicking myself for not picking up more of those start collecting boxes when I could. But I'm sure most armies can relate to that one.
>>98839660You can't say that word!
>>98839672It's okay his grandma on his father's side was 1/8 gargant
>>98839581Lmao, when list building looked like picrel the armies were all 9x Stormdrake Guard. Rose tinted goggles. Spell lored and artifacts suck, but lists themselves are the most diverse they have been since the game has had point values.
>>98839590I'm not sure Fu Manchu would be considered a horror character; he's a pre-pulp supervillain
>>98839590>stepping on the toes of OBRnot any more than moulder invalidated tomb kings
>>98839581If we get generic enhancements it'll be because they remove battletome ones at this rate
>>98839590>I thought shordemaire was mentioned as a mortarch but he isn't. He should be, a zombie dragon mortarch would be cool.agreed, mortarchs are meant to be nagash's top generals, and shordemaire is meant to be raising and commanding all the undead dragons, instead we still have manfred as mortarch even though noone likes him, not even nagash
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>>98839759Game recognizes game.
>>98839724make a rule of three and you fixed it for the most part.
>>98839590we already have 9 high profile special characters for death, the two problems are that gw is clearly reserving the title for significantly central figures of each range, so it's keeping some spots vacant for whatever next ranges death gets; while the other problems are the baggage of the end times mortarchs and of how bloated gravelords are, since they contain way too many stuff.Ideally these would be the archetypes of death.>vampire: neferata>ghoul: ushoran>ghost: olynder>ossiarch: katakros>skeleton: (unnamed wight?)>zombie: (lady of flesh?)>necromancer: (random guy? spot fused with the zombie archetype and replaced by sea undead?)>knight: (vhordrai? lauka vai?)>werewolf: (radukar? hrunspull?)with arkhan promoted to the special title of nagash-jr instead of mortarch and manfred banished like the niggardly rogue agent he is
>>98839515>TQhell yeah
>>98839861Lesbomancy...
>>98839869Not in this game, I'm afraid.
>>98839858Has any archetype lost more juice over the years than necromancers? They just kind of exist now.
>>98839920Juice? They’re fucking dehydrated. It’s only ever been vampires and even more fucking vampires. We only finally got an “alt” sculpt of a necromancer and the fucker looks like from that princess frog story or just straight up baron Samdi himself. I guess there’s the dude from cursed city as well but he’s kinda meh.
>>98839920robbed we were
>>98839590I remember being surprised to see Warcry move from the Eightpoints to Ghur. I'd have bet they would simply rotate from the Bloodwind Spoil to another one of the pizza slices.
>>98839920They were never a respected bunch to begin with.Only kemmler could manage something but only because he was written before vampires were made the rulers of undeath.
>>98839928The eight points would have been more interesting to stay in than ghur.
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>>98839923At least skellies are on the upseing. Liche hero when?>>98839935You could set warcry in modern day winnipeg and it'd be more interesting than gh*r
>>98839947Limiting liches to Nagash and Arkhan has to be one of GW's most retarded Death ideas.
Grey Seer, Master Moulder and 18 Rat Ogres. How bad idea of a 1000pts army is that? I can get 3 Ogres for 6EUR per kit, it's ridiculously cheap to build an army this way.
>>98839968rat ogre spam was pretty popular at the start of the edition, i imagine its still decent
>>98839949PtG lets you take a skelly wizard
Another year, another gobbo. Recognize any REs?https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/8prrlmvd/da-red-gobbo-returns-with-a-new-festive-miniature/
Helsmiths are currently the third highest win rate faction at GTs, with a 58.3% WR
>>98840121I thought everyone complained about their mechanics being shit?
>>98839581Just scrap that allies bit and perfectionI still remember that bullshit when Kroak was somehow 390 fucking points so he could add a MW nuke to every Order list (especially Stormcast)
>>98840132Being competitively viable does not mean their internally healthy
>>98840110Oh the biggest of sloppers bother with these pieces of trash. They aren't even good as painting pieces because they are so covered in shit.
>>98840121> Slash all their points down to nothing> Massively boost their sub factions> Wow it's crazy they are suddenly doing well!!!
>>98840110vincebros... we won
>>98840154>>98840132Regardless, there's people still complaining about how weak they are, and at this point it's a self report.
>>98839934>They were never a respected bunch to begin with.Necromancers were fine back in 4th edition.They have been in a gutter ever since the VC/TK split though, which I guess is close enough to be never at this point in most peoples minds.
>>98840180I don't know anything about Helsmiths due to not paying attention to the faction at all, but is it not possible to have options that are strong in competitive while still being an underwhelming faction otherwise?
>>98840110If this was a normal unit (and toned down a bit) it'd be the coolest kit added to 40k in the last 20 years.As a christmas thingy it's kind of whatever though. Yeah it's another red gobbo. >>98840174>why yes, my Loonboss on Giant Cave Squig is from chamon, how could you tell?
>>98840226Thankfully it's not too hard to modify it to look like a normal kommy gobbo, it's what I did with the original GW release of these christmas red gobbos.
>>98839869is that what it sounds like
>>98840110GW's Red Gobbo obsession was tiresome three years ago. Now these models simply evoke no emotion at all.
>>98840400No it's completely unrelated actually
>>98840400Fuck you, you made me feel old.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDMw7oiF-E8
>>98839767is that the actual font used
>>98839924I need more of this design and an expansion of the lore dammit have them do something
>>98839767One day we'll return to the pvrer days of a grand total of 4 battletomes. Order, Chaos, Death, and Destruction.Let me guess you need more? Wasn't until we got individual books that things got squatted!
Tell me if this one hits as good as the HoH one did a year ago.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/oqxhoin0/chronicles-of-ruin-the-weight-of-remembrance/
Newfag question here. I’ve never played with or against hedonites of slanesh but I’ve read their rules and the temptation dice mechanic looks really fucking cool. The idea of negotiating with your opponent mid match and trying to persuade them sounds like it could be fun. Is it actually a fun mechanic for both players or does it become obnoxious. I’ve heard warhammer players can be annoying, pedantic, and faggy but honestly everyone I’ve met so far is nice.
>>98840466>Is it actually a fun mechanic for both players or does it become obnoxiousIt's a lot less dramatic than you'd imagine.>I’ve heard warhammer players can be annoying, pedantic, and faggy but honestly everyone I’ve met so far is nice.I think the AOS community is generally more pleasant even if there's a few cunts that I loathe in my local community.
>>98840461way too many foids
>>98840210The complaints are not that the faction is underwhelming, there are blanket complaints the faction is weak. Previously people were making the claim that only Taar's restrictive AoR, Grand Forgehost, was competitive, but that's no longer true at all. They're winning as castigation battery. They're winning as daemonsmith cabal. They're winning with bull centaurs. They're winning with artillery. They're winning with generic hero on Bale Taurus. They're winning with massed infantry. It's not like there's some restrictive competitive list that you have to play, the internal balance is there.Again, at this point, complaints that the Helsmiths are weak or that you'll lose a lot by playing this army are just self reports. Theyre at the point where they are becoming too strong.
>>98840461I'm interested to hear what the old duardin cultures of realms besides Aqshy and Chamon are like. I take it we'll get to know more about that since they now have patron gods associated with all the realms.
>>98840504Sorry anon, they all died out like the fyreslayers.
There's... stuff back there?
>>98840476Sounds awesome it actually works. I like it from a mechanical standpoint but I’m not a fan of slanesh aesthetics or models so I probably won’t collect them. >I think the AOS community is generally more pleasant even if there's a few cunts that I loathe in my local community.Yeah I’ve noticed that most of the bad stereotypes about Warhammer players comes from 40K at least in my areas. So far all the AoS fans have been friendly, accommodating, and fairly chatty during games which I like. From what I’ve seen at the 40K tables they seem way more sweaty and take things way more seriously even when talking about the lore or painting. What exactly causes this phenomenon. I thought maybe it’s cause 40K players are Warhammer fans first and wargame fans second while the reverse is true for AoS but the more AoS players I meet the more I see that a lot of them only play AoS so that can’t be it.
>>98840517It was unfinished, we couldn't have that.
>>98840518>What exactly causes this phenomenonI think 40k being this long standing pillar vs AOS being relatively "new" (been out for a decade and is basically just continued fantasy but regardless) I also believe and this is more personal that AOS exists as a pre-poisoned well and so most people probably don't wanna scare people off by being a needly prick. But yeah the fact we don't really have any secondaries helps quite a bit, folks just wanna play the dudes they like and have fun.NOW I WILL SAY, there's still cunts about the lore but I don't wanna get into a rant about that fuckhead who keeps trying to tell me Stormcast are just as morally grey as Space Marines and Sigmar is a bad guy.
>>98840517I see slayers with hornswhich aren't actually that common...
>>98840531The Emperor had good intentions but sometimes acted cruelSigmar has good intentions but sometimes acted stupid
>>98840541I feel like they're even less comparable because Sigmar feels exponentially more human than the emperor. Even as an actual god.
>>98840410>>98840408oh… good to know…
>>98840543>>98840531>>98840541Sigmar, at least personality wise, feels a bit more like a demigod to me. I like how he’s well intentioned but flawed but also not ridiculously so. A lot of his choices feel like him trying to make the best of a bad situation like his whole idea of making a pantheon. Like yeah gorkamorka and nagash would turn on him but he’s gotta stop chaos somehow. Likewise I really like the stormcast eternal lore with sigmar doing his best to make them perfect despite his limitations (IIRC nagash was also fucking with the reforging thing by trying to claim their souls). Speaking of the stormcast I kinda like that instead of being forced to fight until they die the stormcast can retire and only be recalled if absolutely necessary. It’s rather nice to have an actually moral good faction. I also like how the stormcast live among normal humans and interact and befriend them. Frankly I thing the more concrete good vs evil thing makes AoS more appealing than 40ks grimdark and everyone is evil thing.
>>98840543Ah yeah, time as an actual mortal probably helped a lot there
>>98840533Actually yeah, I think it's supposed to be a heartguard because of the flail-axe, but they don't have helmets like that.
>>98840585TLDR: if I lived in each universe I’d worship the emperor because I’d have to but I’d worship sigmar becuase I’d want to
>>98840585I feel like Gorkamorka is more reliable than Nagash desu. Easier to herd a cat that just wants violence versus the cat who wants to usurp you. Also I agree that black and white in a setting is better than endless shades of gray. I’m tired of the subversion nonsense that came with boomers, or Gen X, or whoever
>>98840585>Frankly I thing the more concrete good vs evil thing makes AoS more appealing than 40ks grimdark and everyone is evil thing.This is why I hate that guy, I mean several other shit takes he has too but that's besides the point. God I wish he wasn't the like, head of the community...
>>98840461It’s alright. The HoH one was more philosophical and I think that makes it better. This one has a bit of that but not much. Both were decent, though, and oddly enough finally having normal dwarves feels sort of refreshing because they still have some stuff that makes them differ from their Fantasy ancestors. The lore blurb I really love is the one about the old Dwarf with his niece going deep into the Karak and him removing his half mask to reveal himself as a chorf.
>>98840605Yeah come to think of it the destruction faction’s races in general aren’t just constantly chimping out like 40K orks. I do like that gargants and ogors are both in cities of sigmar. It makes both of the races more interesting that they can be negotiated with by giving them food and other resources. I guess sigmar could’ve don’t something similar with gorkamorka if there were more enemies to sic him on.
>>98840612Who is that guy? Is he in this thread or are you talking about a community manager or e celeb.
>>98840110My Loonboss from Moon City>>98840226I love the Red Gobbo models but you're very right. It's downright insulting that they refuse to make any fun gretchin units for 40k outside of these.
>>98840585I appreciate AoS doing more with godhood in general. Sigmar was a Germanic barbarian king with a noticeable temper, and they kept that as a personal flaw of his even after making him an actual god. The only lore bit about him is that he was good friends with Nagash in the Age of Myth. A practical ally for his pantheon, sure, but galavnting around Shyish to help him consume all the underworlds like a brother-in-arms is just stupid. Especially considering Nagash is very open about who he is and what he wants. IIRC, Sigmar still remembers the World That Was, so he should still remember having to smack him around on two separate occasions.
>>98840635I've heard that anon complain about him plenty of times before kek he's just an annoying local guy I think
>>98840635He's just the guy who runs my local community shit, he was the same guy who got like 3rd in a tourney awhile ago and started the terrorgheist spam thing. He's neither a celeb, community manager, nor in this thread.
>>98839104It’s nice to dream anon >>98839590What would vampirates even do in AoS? I mean where would they operate? Is there a coast side of somewhere that’s analogous to where they were operating in Fantasy?
>>98840628I think there were some orcs that followed the refugees of chaos back to azyr, but weren’t they genocided? Still, having orcs go back with them willingly says something on its own
>>98840672It's sad how Firestorm is fading from /aosg/'s memory.
>>98840585I’m very fond of both the Emperor and Sigmar and think they have a lot of interesting narratives they could have explored about their characters but Sigmar personally and especially resonates with me because I love that he was the ideal noble savage free spirited Conan-esque leader figure when he was alive as a regular guy but has had to reluctantly turn back on that and personally assume the role of being the symbol of civilization itself. It’s an aspect I hope gets more exposition in the future. Classic good and evil certainly has its place but I’m also quite fond of 40k’s grand of grey morality in particular too with how much freedom it offers.
>>98840672>Is there a coast side of somewhere that’s analogous to where they were operating in Fantasy?There will be one soon in the last world.
>>98840672There's coasts everywhere. We already have an entire faction dedicated to coastal raiding, as well as several subfactions of other armies like spume's plague fleet.That'll be the least of Vcoast's issues
Sorry to burst your bubble but zombie pirates with tricorn hats and pistols and whatnot don't really mesh well with the characterisation of the living humans as wielding early handgonnes on a stick.And GW most probably catalogues vampirates as a total war faction, thus an old world faction, like cathay and kislev, instead of a core warhammer thing that they would feel the need to port onto aos somehow.
>>98840533artistic liberties with the silhouette of the crest though I wouldn't be shocked if EoE came with a refresh given GW are peak Jews
>>98840765>Sorry to burst your bubble but zombie pirates with tricorn hats and pistols and whatnot don't really mesh well with the characterisation of the living humans as wielding early handgonnes on a stick.Anything can happen in any realm! IF anything just say they're older humans. Like how all the skeletons are wearing slav armor that doesn't match cities at all.
>>98840452These came out after Fyreslayers and Pestilens, so those plus SCE, Khorne, Seraphon, Everchosen
Anachronism between factions is really not something GW concerns itself with. Not to mention all the bullshit skaven or kharadrons or helsmiths are rocking with.I mean even within CoS alone you have both handgonnes and mitraillettes.
>>98840851It is fun to see Seraphon still able to kick ass with dinosaurs riding dinosaurs, though.
>>98840695Like tears in rain.Not just by us but especially GW.
Why didn't CoS lean into this aesthetic?
>>98840955Tow
>>98840955why should it?
>>98840843>>98840851sorry but it just doesn't work
>>98840955Old world had dibs.
>>98840963why not?
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>>98841018skaven and dwarfs are a completely separate tech trees so they're allowed to have toys that humans don't have, meanwhile undead humans can only have up to what humans have, unless they get a tech tree of their own, but that's not thematic for pirates, so they have to be stuck as undead versions of human pirates that would exist in the setting, and human pirates cannot exist in the setting as we normally envision them because the humans of this setting are at a different point in regard for their own tech.>but removed minis >but outdated RPGsdon't matter, the cities of sigmar in their current incarnation are to be considered your point of reference, and you can't have them sport older styles of guns than a faction of undead humans with scavenged human gunsbest you can have is pirates without guns, or a rare few guns of the same style of the cos, but at that point you're trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, give it up, vampire counts are an old world faction
>>98841054As if there wasn't enough reason to hate CoS already
>>98841054Meh, again, CoS already have mitraillette/volley guns on the gargants and cogforts, plus the fusil major has this sniper rifle thing. They can make it work.
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>>98840466It's a bland mechanic to play against and doesn't look to fun to play. Some of the worst model range to work with hobby wise too.
This reminds me, is this dragon model still fucked?https://youtu.be/6GD4n-PDexE
>>98841125No, they can't, that's an elite thing, this is the standard gun, you can't expect your faction of scavengers to be better equipped than the normal average.You can have one or two dudes champions with guns, not units.You cannot have your cake and eat it.
>>98841126>>98841130damn, drogrukhs, I didn't know your culture was that interesting
Right. It's up, or so James told me. Anybody got a link?
so are the legends fyreslayers units going to be in the upcoming tome or are they going to be in a separate new document or just keep using the index for the rest of the edition or what?
>>98841277Document until the end of the edition. Which is next summer.
>>98841196the new bull centaurs have this problem too, there's a missing piece that leaves a noticeable hole on one of the torsos. there's also an unusual socket on the sprue that looks like there should have been a small part there, but there isnt and no number is present, so it seems like a small filler part got accidentally missed during the cad sprue mapping and wasnt caught before production
>>98841126>>98841123>>98841130Sex with femtaurs
>>98841298>there's also an unusual socket on the sprue that looks like there should have been a small part there, but there isnt and no number is present,That's not that rare tho, happens from time to time. Probably just no bit there.
>>98841300If we'd been allowed to keep BoC we would've had beastwomen by now.
>>98841235Alright anon now you're just bitching to bitch. We've established that the tech level exists, we've established that the tech level exists for humans specifically, (none of which is necessary) and now you're complaining that hold on it's not common enough.Nevermind by the way that CoS equipment isn't the end all of human capabilities in setting. This is like complaining that deathrattle round shields are impossible because cos don't have em. Come on.
Reddit spy here. Repostan leaks.
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>>98840955>cities of sigmar>it's just altdorf againthe whole point of AOS is that it's not the old world.
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>>98841407Actually they're just in Hammers of Sigmar colors.
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>>98840955Nothing stops Your Dudes to have this aesthetic
>>98841260Instant girlboss character...who are they making this shit for?
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>>98841260Surely the boat should be bigger than the model in truescale? A whole squad and crew of dwarfs should be able to live in there.
>>98841398Man these battle formations are so boring
>>98841414So they’ve literally treating runes as a Lore of Magic now? I guess it makes sense for the sake of streamlining mechanics, but it has… weird implications lore-wise. Aren’t Duardin supposed to be biologically incompatible with being wizards and that’s why Chorf Daemonsmiths get the Stone-Flesh Curse?
Fyrebros how we coping?
>>98841442>An artefact of Thorgrim's great library of grudgesImagine having to spend eternity as the guy who catalogues every single thing in all the cosmos that ever offended any individual member of your species. Man, it would be suck to be that guy.
>>98841468>magmadroth with taxi rulesneat
>>98841532Literally just the runesmiter's magic tunnel ability but making far less sense
>>98841398those subfaction rules are all 4 of them terrible.
>>98841479because gw no longer allow anything to be depicted in media (their own or 3rd party) if it doesnt have a buyable miniature and every allowed piece must be made carefully to represent the buyable miniature(probably)
>>98841510IIRC the battletome cites a daemonsmith who implies the petrification isn't a natural response to handling magic, but rather a price they pay to Hashut in exchange for their magical ability.
>>98841548its not. its not that at all. read it againthe runesondroth can taxi a unit every time it moves, like a KO ship
>>98841510GW: "stfu. just consume and dont question."
>>98841510They said wizards in the reveal steam, everyone just presumed the hosts were mistaken
>>98841330it's not bitching for bitching's sake, you can't argue that one of the more advanced guns of a faction should somehow be the standard issue gear of a less industrial version it makes no sense, you want vampirates, I get it, but this is not the setting for it
>>98841611Old cos models are still canon, dawnbringer crusaders or whatever they're called are just poorly equipped.
>>98841630>poorly equippedso would be zombie pirates
If you want pirates I think you'll just have to settle for KO. They even have (clockwork) parrots and peg legs.
KO are so gays its unreal, with their little diaper armor.
>>98841611I don't particularly care for Vcoast, I just think "but CoS have handgonnes" is a stupid objection.
>>98841703Some of you are really have rent free diapers in the head. You see them everywhere.
>>98841077i thought people here liked COS though
>>98841738Not everyone loved their reinvention starting in 3e.
>>98841711Explain to me how a faction of pirates scum, who also happen to be undead, would be better equipped than the faction they would be taking their guns from.
>>98841758They're the squatted CoS handgunners and ironweld engineers who got bitter and spiteful.
>>98841414>One prayer lore>two spell loresQuite the turn for dwarfs
>>98841758I’m just jumping into this conversation now, but don’t they have multiple factions to take that shit from now? Khadrons duaradin of any variety, this new supposed black steel something something, I’m gonna guess the anon already said that the tech level for cities is already all over the place.
>>98841422I really thought the Valayan's at least would have two wounds.
>>98841777Presumably they get an additional prayer lore in the fyreslayer AoR.
>>98841782I'm mightily surprised by the 4++
Can someone give me a summary of the first episode of the *Arkanaut* series, or a link to watch and download it—or better yet, both?
>>98841835try next week
Found a new terrain piece for 1€ at the store today
>>98841839Whatcha got planned for it?
>>98841835Better get Warhammer plus :)
DAMNIT WHERE CAN I FIND ONE OF THESE FOR GIANT BASES. I've tried making tape walls and it never fucking works.
>>98841758Why the fuck would they be taking shit from CoS exclusively anon that's just some shit you made up.The agloraxi had fucking lasers.
>>98841837>>98841868Reply to first comment: That’s great advice, thanks—I’ll give it a try.Reply to second comment: I only buy or get things directly from the source—meaning I go straight to the store; I will never, ever buy or get anything online.
>>98841871the algoraxi are extinct, the other factions are secretive with their tech or the means by which they work, or use special resources to make them work, and in any case aren't up for grabs for lowly pirates who happen to be undead.you cannot have undead pirates inspired by 17th century pirates when the average human level is the 14th century.
>>98841478BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE
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>>98841946Wow, the gunners stole an ability from Fyreslayers' worst unit.
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>>98841946>thrundrin is the stocky one>thrundrok is the thin onesomeone fucked up
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>>98841983The big kahuna
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>>98839515Grombrindal is a god now too? I considered him as a demigod, the least?Guess this makes him the sixth god with a model?
>>98841951Shield golems a 3+ lmao
>>98841999Maneaters are exceptional individuals, exceptions aren't examples, you can't convince anyone that a fully fledged faction made of ogres with scavenged kharadron tech is a thematically sound thing in the setting.
>>98842012I think he properly became a God at like beginning of 3rd edition.
>>98842012Not all gods sit at the same levels, thorgrim, grombrindal, and inghilde certainly feel like lesser gods to valaya and gazul, let alone grungni, grimnir and hashutalso >>98839515 says grugni isn't the oldest, which makes it quite likely that hashut's claim of being the eldest of the brothers is true
>>98842015Point is there's more than enough shit for them to scavenge>CoS units with guns>unmodelled cos units with guns which still exist in fluff>non-cos human nations with guns>one of like 5 other factions currently in the game who mass produce guns
>>98842093not enough to justify a faction of zombie pirates with more and better guns than the faction of living humans, no
>>98842111Fuck you mean "not enough"?You counted them lmao?
>>98842134Yes, I cheekmned.
So are grimdroth or whatever in a orruck situation or are they both firmly in the same space
>>98842092>which makes it quite likely that hashut's claim of being the eldest of the brothers is trueI really want to know, assuming it’s actually true, if this is somehow the same entity from fantasy or a new incarnation considering the cyclical nature of gods.
>>98842151the normal army is for a soup of normie dwarfs and fire dwarfs together then there's an army of renown for only fire dwarfsthen there's an army of renown for normie dwarfs and fire dwarfs and sky dwarfs together
>>98841758They're not getting them from CoS, I am personally supplying large amounts of undead with high quality but appropriately aged blunderbusses and cannons. That's why they're appropriate for AoS.
>>98841930>Only buys directly from the sourceCute but also retarded. Do you think they make the minis in the back of your lgs?
>>98841971>Thundrin should be the thin one>Thundrthighs should be the fat ones
>>98842092>quite likely that hashut's claim of being the eldest of the brothers is trueI hope they just make it a fact of the setting. Having a banished ancestor god adds a nice layer of depth and complexity to the dwarf pantheon. It also sets up some potentially interesting theological conflicts and helps differentiate the Helsmiths from the rest of chaos.>>98842154>same entity from fantasy or a new incarnationI'd be fine with retconning the WHFB Hashut so that he was always an ancestor god. This would make his split from chaos, and alliance with the other dwarf gods make more sense.Honestly, I like the idea of chorfs/Helsmiths being a more mercenary or bureaucratic kind of evil. They sell arms to, or fight for, anyone that's willing to pay their price, but they'll also just as soon wipe both sides of a conflict out if it means expanding their bottom line and gaining more power - which appears to be exactly what happened during the age of myth when Hashut worked with the other dwarf ancestor gods.
>>98841970It's crazy how much lamer the Exile is now. Woo hoo, shitty lone hero who dies instantly in melee can deepstrike and get into combat to die faster. This is the guy that used to have a 4+ ward, a run and charge ability for allies, and a once per battle burn one enemy the fuck down by rolling a dice for every wound they had and doing a shitload of mortals. At least the Flameseekers are still good.
>>98841973Flamekeeper still inexplicably not a priest, even after they got rid of the Runemaster. These Fyreslayer rules are not bring me any joy.
>>98841951>>98842013They're a bit weird as a battering ram unit that you kind of want to stick in a suicidal situation ASAP.
>>98842154>new incarnation considering the cyclical nature of godsThe only god that could fit this is Grombrindal but that’s only because Grungni literally reforged him. Otherwise they’re the same ones. Until Morathi fully steal’s Khaine’s power or Gotrek finally stops being a pussy and mantles Grimnir there’s no new incarnation we don’t know about. Morr and Ulric have one in Morrda and Ursricht possibly unless that’s Ursun
>>98842189Fuck off nagash
>>98841979HGB are...probably slightly worse, all things considered, even if just for losing the flail option.>>98841983Auric HG are still pretty trash, but at least -1 to hit is better than -1 move.
>>98842305Tyrion is very Asuryan coded still and Teclis is basically Hoeth
>>98842305It’s more of an elf god thing, but I could see GW pivoting it into other gods. >>98842345Yeah, this is pointed out in the latest LRL tome.
>Valaya's rune on her axe>Thorgrim's rune on her bookWell aren't you popular.
Anyone painting tonight? Anyone wanna talk about paints you like? Experimenting with anything? Anyone wanna post models for critique? Making some human leather boots today
>>98842345Where does the moon chick fit into things
>>98842347>Let it be known that the Khazalites have returned to the realms. No longer will we allow our karaks to be defiled and the lands to succumb to the plage of ratmen, the hated thaggoraki. Oaths we have made and oaths we shall keep. We emerge from our refuge shoulder to shoulder, as hardy as the mountains we call hearth and hold.>We remember those that came before; they are our unbreakable chain to the past, our traditions that we hold dear. For through tradition do we find mastery, the epitome of the Great Toil to which we all adhere. None are more venerated than the Ancestor Gods, to whom we owe all. In reciting their names and deeds we give them honour. In turn, they grant us strength and wisdom. In remembrance, then, do we live on, as everlasting as stone.>There is strength in rock, something we duardin know well. It speaks to us in an ancient voice, its secrets ours alone to wield. We shape its ores in our forgecraft, which has no equal. We harness its magic in runes or by shifting the earth itself, in which we dig our roots.>With boot on ground and axe haft against shield do we strike the beat of war, our clamour a shout to rouse the earth. With fiery wrath and berserk fury do we mete out our vengeance, our grudges long in memory. Let our foes quail at our coming. Let them baulk at our dauntless ranks as we, like an avalanche, sweep them from our sight.>Our Khazalid Empire shall be remade, our halls purged of the filth that infests them, so all duardin can again be one clan as the ancestors intended. By axe and hammer, we swear it. By the ancestors, we shall see it done.I take it the "Great Toil" is somehow a positive spin on the idea of indebtedness and social obligation that informs the Helsmiths' Wage of Toil.
>>98842408Lileath's super gone.
>>98841930But the humans have stuff like this too
>clangunners fire stone-tipped bulletsThey're really committing to the bit of rocking and stoning.
>>98842420Yeah, but who's taking her mantle?
I just realized the gaunt summoner has bunny ears like Khorne does
Okay but Root Kyngs when
>>98842407Nice boots. I’ve been working on rat ogors a bit in between studying. I’m trying gulliman flesh contrast for the feet and I’m not sure how I feel about it. I feels a bit too vibrant/melainated for skaven. I imagine my rat ogors having paler more diseased looking skin mixed with bloody ripped open wounds. I might layer after I finish everything else about it
>>98842407My backlog is completely clear and I don’t have any hobbying ambitions to look forward to right now, so I’m catching up on vidya. Ace Combat 8 first then Red Dead 2.
>>98842525Pale flesh is hard to do, there's a bunch of guides but I can't seem to actually do it>>98842561I'm the opposite I play tank in wow and there's some new patch but I just wanna paint
Kharadron hunters harpooning a... lightning bolt?Possible answers:1.- The greed of these guys reached a point where they started harvesting (hunting) the spirits of Stormcasts trapped in Be'lakor's dark clouds, threatening to destroy them unless the Stormcasts "buy back" their brethren's souls at exorbitant prices, or...2.- They are hunting some being or creature made of pure lightning to gain some sort of benefit, or...3.- The Kharadron are literally at war with natural storms out of envy, because they can't stand not being the only ones who can "thunder" in the skies.
>>98842722How long are these episodes anywayI don't suppose any of you frens have wh+?
>>98842751Apparently this one's less than 15 mins.
>>98842373More like a fucking SLUT.A FILTHY SLUT THANE WHORING HERSELF OUT TO TWO ANCESTORS AT ONCE. SLUT SLUT SLUT
>>98842722I’ll be honest, all of those sound cool and soulful as shit. First and third especially.
>>98842587My problem with pale flesh is the shading part. I love rakarth flesh as a base but it feels hard to find a good contrast that doesn’t stain/saturate it too much but also provides a nice dark color in the recesses and gives definition on the muscles.
>>98843116I meant wash not contrast but speaking of contrasts once again they all feel too saturated for pale flesh.
Any info on what kind of restrictions are placed on Armies of Renown in the new Khazalid Tome?
>>98843133One is only Fyreslayers, the other is all Khazalites + any KO. Only restrictions is no RoR's.
>>98843163Fuck yes. So that means you can run KO+Fyreslayers+KH mash.
>>98843163There's also a third AoR focused on the Faction Leader. I don't know what unit restrictions it has, though.
>>98843180Yep. Duardrazhal in all but name.
Since leaks for the Khazalite are coming out, anything on the major subfactions? I am curious if they mention any.
>>98841983>Enemies struck by magmapike bolts find their attacks hindered as the rocks cool and rapidly solidifies on their armour and flesh >Once per turn (army) This shit is so fucking stupid. I know it's just muh meta but at least write something new like it's a sparingly used rune that augments the ammunition not a fucking innate material property of the baseline ammunition you god game activate
>>98843314Maybe if you weren't a dumbass you'd realize that GW is helping you out by clearly telling you not to buy more FS. Take a hint.
>>98843580These shit rules are not dwarf specific, every army does this and it's awful.
>>98843695While we’re on the topic of rules I don’t like how so many abilities are like roll a d3 and you need a 2 or higher to do anything. I feel like you could take out a few of these at least.
>>98843695These rules are based because I only need one block of chosen or varanguard. Your rules are lame because you are perfidious and unimaginative and rely on spam.
>>98843294
It really wouldnt be that difficult to improve Stormcasts
>>98843163>>98843193So we can bring Fyreslayers, Khazalites and Overlords in one army now?! How is this not fucking KINO?!
>>98843985making them good makes them less suited to be whored out as posterboys and trap for clueless beginners
>>98843995>How is this not fucking KINO?!imagine if you could include helsmiths too
>>98843995I lowkey fuck with the idea of all three dwarf factions teaming up to pound the ass of the Helsmiths
>>98844058why not to kick united elves?
>>98844094>draw the ancestors as cute girls>don't draw the one little sister ancestorONE JOB
>>98844105It’s a bit funny how all of these elves could work with 2 other alliances at least but lumineth would realistically only work with sylvaneth.
>>98844105>Host of the Eternity King, but Age of SigmarTAKE MY MONEY, JAMES!!!!
>>98844050IMAGINE>Grand Alliance: Duardin
>>98844050>>98844105>treehuggers vs deforestators>sky boats vs flying fishes>naked lesbos vs naked homos>normie dwarfs vs normie elves
>>98844124Elves are hypocritical by nature, they can work with the elves they don't like just fine.
>>98844188arent elves also stoic, disciplined and to themselves tho? feel all elf factions wouldnt normally fight alongside any other elves
>>98843995Because first of all soup is gay and second THEY SQUATTED HALF MY FUCKING ARMY
>>98844221>Because first of all soup is gayThat's fine by me <3>THEY SQUATTED HALF MY FUCKING ARMYNot one soul shall mourn the death of Vulkite Berzerkers
>>98844234Faggot.
>>98844195>arent elves also stoic, disciplined and to themselves tho?only as much as a tsuntsun
>>98844234>Not one soul shall mourn the death of Vulkite BerzerkersThere's always someone mourning the lost, if not in their entirety then just some part or potential in their design.
>>98844240Give love a chance :D
>>98842722>Kharadron hunters harpooning a... lightning bolt?Would elctricity latch onto metal or air more?
>>98844105>What if we did the Ynnari again, but in AoS and didn't fuck up their plotline?I'm game
>>98842561That's alright, you can paint mine instead. I can assure you we'll never run out.
I'll miss the vulkite berzerkers lads.pic unrelated
>>98842373>star of david runeShe was Jewish, Hjulda?
>>98844117kys pedo
>>98843855Bit hard to read at this size but if I'm getting it right:>Karak Uzul : shyish>Karak Angaraz : chamon>Karak Thryngaz : ghyran>Karak Bokdrun : ulgu>Karak Zharrzon : aqshy (also designsted fyreslayer hold)I think angaraz is supposed to be the 'main' scheme and stuff, since it's the richest and biggest hold, plus it's in grungni and he's the main guy. Uzul also has a shot since it seems that's where they were originally holded up before returning.Sidenote but which ancestor god is in charge of Ghur now that hashut is manlet non grata? Do they talk about this at all?
>>98843695It's an objectively strong ability the issue is it's phrased like one per turn (army) the bullet penetrates the skin - "bullets pierce enemy armour" it's an undiegetic abstraction
>>98844521>Karak ZharrzonMy, feeling creative today aren't we.
>>98844560For reference.Doesn't even make sense because because zon comes from the KO's Dutch language influence which other dorfs don't use.
>>98844094cute…>>98844117valid complaint…
>>98843985
>>98843985horrible>>98844623kino
Got my Khazalite army box <3
>Vostargi Mont has fallenBillions must cry. ;_;
>>98843985Where's the improvement?
>>98844636Billion must fry
Now that the STUNTIES are out of the way, Kurnothi have to be the next release. Right?
Okay yeah Angaraz is indeed the main hold judging by paint scheme Kinda wish they kept it in shyish, a non-death faction having their main settlement there would be cool
>>98844654I thought (hoped) you were dead.
>>98844662Bronze and white in top right is awesome, also really like the top middle.
>>98844637Anon's a chubby chaser
>>98844654Definitely on the chopping block. All the units inherited from WFB will get squatted without replacements and they'll get souped with some other elf army.
>>98844680Buddy what units do you think kurnothi inherited from whfb?
>>98844690Sylvaneth, dummy
>>98844694>shitposter doesn't even know the differenceKek
>>98844696There are Sylvaneth units in that picture and I was referring to the Sylvaneth range. You can stop pretending to be retarded now. Unless...
>>98844699>I-i meant t-this other thingkwab
Gholemkind and gholems are confirmed to be different things. The gholemkind were the ones who taught the ancient duardin how to create living constructs.
>>98844680Pretty bad bait
>>98842381>50mmAnon... I kneel
>>98844710Did the base autist say 50 or 60? I wanna know if his powers work
>>9884471250He won.
The Greyfyrd and Lofnir lodges maintain their independence from the Khazalid empire, though they are frequently besieged and so could really use some close allies.
>>98844710>>98844713Oh shit
>>98842381Why is she so big? Dwarfs are like greenskins
>>98844768Clanshields have bad posture.
My thanks to the Anons who posted on the Khazalite subfactions.I might have missed it, but was there anything on what happened to the various Fyreslayer Lodges? I believe there was at least one in each realm, are they all gone now?
>>98844662Top right best, middle bottom main characters, middle left most unique. Never seen burnt umber dwarves
>>98844777Vostarg Mont fell to Helsmiths and the survivors resettled in Karak Zharrzon. The Fyreslayer AoR is also named after Zharrzon. Greyfyrd and Lofnir underscore their independence. Dunno about the state of other lodges.
I'll just reread my 1e tome. I reject nu canon.
>>98844808>AoS survived long enough to have old good new bad and nulore not canonAge of Oldmar... Home.
>>98844801Thank you.Dang, while I understand the reasoning and having a single Karak for Grimnir makes sense, it's sad to see the decade of lore for the Lodges go.
Where is the guy who insisted golems were mecha bull sized and totally on bases way bigger than 50mm? I wanna laugh at him
>>98844768It's just the tactical rock, if you put them on equal footing they're the same height.Also hjulda's face is way smaller proportionally which I'm sure contributes
>>98844832I'm right here >>98844710
>>98844839
>>98844843
>>98844839They REALLY are just another secret army while dispossessed get ignoredHilarious
>>98844847
>>98844850
>>98844848Dispossessed are mentioned as joining the Kromdron and Fyreslayers in the new empire.
>>98844858Could one get a dwarf gf here?
>>98839946>>98843985I really like the uncanny facial expression of the stormcasts in these artworks, actually makes them feel threatening.
>>98844839>>98844843>>98844850A bit monotonousThere should be a hold that's like a dormant volcano island in the ocean or some shit. Now they're all like>wow this one has mines can you believe that?!
>>98844848They’re basically the same fucking thing
>>98844870No they're not.
>>98844869direct portals into the underworld are pretty fantastical to be fair
>>98843985That's just a stormcast, like a regular one
>the Ulgu karak is actually an Aqshy karakGoddammit
>>98844889Knew it was too good to be true
>>98844858Are Root Kings in the book >>98844873NTA>Oh no our holds were fucked we had to hide Vs >oh no our holds were fucked we had to hide
>>98844897>Are Root Kings in the bookNo.
>>98844897And before you bring up the other ones>oh no our holds are fucked we gotta fly the fuck outta here>oh no our god got fucked we gotta pound his essence into our skin and soul
>>98844808You've never read it because if you did you'd know Fyreslayers were never intended to be a monoarmy
>>98844900That’s going in the Book :(
>>98844897>have to run to sigmar and be productive members of human society>be instrumental in establishing all the free cities but long to one day reclaim your holds>have years of lorevs>we ran into the underworld and you never ever heard of us before until [current edition gimmick] made us reveal ourselves!
>>98844514>finding people cute = wanting to fuck themstop projecting your own pedophilia
>>98844906They've always been their own civilization with their own city states, tardo.
>>98844902Don’t forget they have the exact same “we gotta retake our holds” thing going on too. >>98844911You’ve never heard of dwarves that got fucked up in the age of chaos and we’re irrelevant and nobody heard of them? Damn why are you so mean to the dispossessed?
This is an "army" set
>>98844839>>98844843I like the repeated emphasis on resonance and acoustics in Duardin rune-magic and rune-tech in all the snipets of Khazalite lore we've gotten so far. It gives the factions' takes on classic fantasy dorf tropes a very unique feel. I mean, a whole karak in the realm of the dead, holding the line against the predations of the undead and the draw of a black hole of magical oblivion, thanks to gholems powered by unending choruses of dwarvish throat-singing? Isn't that the most "power metal music album" thing in the best way possible you've ever heard of or what?!
>>98844897>existed in the game as playable subfaction since day 1>have been phased out of this army recently; giving a perfect excuse as to why they're now their own thing building upon this decade long lore presence>come pre-baked with an interesting internal dichotomy of centuries of sigmarite coexistence influencing traditional dwarfen way of lifeVs>like the 15th "guys we were hiding this whole time until [edition gimmick]" army in the game
>>98844911from sewer dwelling slaves to productive members of society this thread is eternally bipolar about dwarves
>>98844930>this threadonly the shitposter
>>98844929How exactly does any of that stop it from being the same concept you can do the same thing over after you did it already
>>98844930I don't mind adding to the dispossessed by writing that some escaped to the underworlds, I just think it's retarded that they're the whole driving force of the faction in line with all the other retarded secret faction gimmicks GW just can't give up on.
>>98844923Yeah it's a spearhead
>>98844934You don't think it's rather lame that they did the same uninspired hiding gimmick again even when they have a perfect excuse to explain the new faction right there already?
>>98844931I’m aware anonymous isn’t one person and a name multiple people ran with that meme. Anytime GW does anything with dwarves it’s hated until they do another thing with dwarves then all of a sudden it was always based wtf gw
>>98844936It’s a post apocalyptic setting with the whole foundation being 99% of the setting is a chaos blasted shithole and the other .5 percent of 1 is a magical shithole and the other .5 percent of that 1 is settled and constantly assailed. Also Gazul being in hiding has been a plot point since 2nd edition
>>98844938No I feel like they just extended the concept
When can we expect the spearhead? How long does that cycle usually take after the army set release?
>>98844945...genuinely how?It's the same damn thing.It becomes sillier every edition too because why is only [current edition's gimmick] forcing them out and now the previous 4 or 5 apocalyptic events like the realmgate wars, soul wars/necroquake, rite of life/era of the beast, ...
>>98841835From what I've heard, it's about a KO crew venturing into Cursed Skies (a plot point returning from previous editions, basically a magical anti-Stormcast trap designed by Bel'akor) to hunt for Stormcast souls still trapped in there, so they can then sell the souls back to Sigmar.Which, in my opinion, is utterly hilarious in the best way possible. Only the KO would think of making a business out of something like that.
>>98844952Isn’t the cursed skies still going on >>98844950Idk how to explain to you the concept of dwarves hiding from the apocalypse to reclaim their holds when they can is the same thing as dwarves hiding from the apocalypse to reclaim their holds when they can. I can’t convince you that these two shapes are both X’s I give up
>>98844960>Isn’t the cursed skies still going onI mean yeah, I meant that its was introduced in previous editions but IIRC it hasn't really been mentioned since.
What colour schemes are people thinking for their Khazalid? None of the official ones jump out at me though I love the white beard.
>>98844923That's right! Well done, anon! :D
>>98844950>the necroquake is uniquely powering death magic to raise whole armies of nighthaunts as well as the ossiarchs, who remained still until their primary general and streategist was free and in place>sacrosancts come out only to deal with the negroquake and went away after it>thunderstrikes and ruinations are direct answers to the cursed skies and the growing toll of stormcasts deaths>kruleboys showed up only because of kragnos fulfilling some role or prophecy their main guy had for them, otherwise they're sneaky far and large>megagargants only began growing significantly in numbers and size after behemat's death >tzeentch, nurgle, khorne, undivided, skaven, and beastmen were always active>kharadrons, fyreslayers, and ironjaws showed up fast as the age of chaos came to an end>idoneth were forced out by an event in the malign portents, otherwise they had the strongest excuse for staying hidden>slaaneshi forces gathered in strength and power around the time slaanesh almost got free and gave birth to the twins>cities of sigmar solidified their look with the thalian reformation and the preparatory efforts for their biggest dawnbringer crusades ever>lumineth came out of nothing also as reply to the necroquake and effectively ended it almost single-handedly>gloomspites became active when the bad moon began showing up more the only flimsier excuses are for helsmiths, who are marching out because they're opportunistic assholes who got a deal and headstart to expand in the wake of the skaven vermindoom, and the khazalites who may be showing up now only because shit is getting dire for dwarfs at large, kharadron and fyreslayers included, who are getting rescued or housed, and the holds reclaimed.
>>98844937Its crazy thats what they're charging 190 CAD for now, just started watching aos again since like 2018 and wow have things seem to have gone down hill
>>98844978Slaanesh broke one chain of like 100 and the Lumineth have been a thing since forbidden power when Teclis told Sigmar go fuck yourself deal with Nagash alone until that didn’t work out well for him and then the Lumineth marched
>>98844925>I mean, a whole karak in the realm of the dead, holding the line against the predations of the undead and the draw of a black hole of magical oblivion, thanks to gholems powered by unending choruses of dwarvish throat-singingHardcore af
>>98844966Mentioned plenty of times, but a lorelet like you wouldn't know that.
>>98844988>CAD>Canadian Well! There's your problem.
>>98844997Nothing more powerfulhttps://youtu.be/htdxK2FtYII
>>98844997>choruses of dwarvish throat-singingit's actually just a reference to the rangs of powah
>>98845021AW LAWD GAZUL
>>98845021>>98845025https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao5vqJre-xQ
>>98844923Yes, it's three unit kits and a hero, plus a battletome and warscroll cards, like basically every other army set released in the last five years. Why do newfags keep pretending to be surprised by this?They're not battleforces, that's an entire other category of discount box.
>>98845034>You can't complain about bad practices if they go on long enough!Eat dirt BISH
>>98845037Ok buddy
I was there, 3000 years ago.
>>98845050Better times.
>>98844960Anon they haven't been hiding since the game started. We (the playerbase) have seen them interact with the larger world, some have armies, some have stories of *their armies* interacting with other people's Dispossessed armies and whatnot.They have existed in the actual game before right now. These new ones have not. I'm baffled as to why you think this is such a hard concept.
>>98844978Listen, there's an infinite number of new armies that are hiding just around the corner, or behind that rock, or sometimes under your bed. And that's just how GW likes it.
>>98845063except none of them is vampire coast
>>98845034This one and the helsmith army set have been smaller than the usual army sets of 4th edition. They've also been cheaper.>>98845050I shit you not the LGS one town over still has thing. Or at least it's still on their website, maybe they just forgot to take it down all these years.
But yeah, modern GW's insistence in making every minute change to their product lineup a "lore event" has gotten quite tiresome.>New Army? Here's why they always existed and had a thriving culture and massive empire no one knew about until right now>Unit or Army Squatted? Quick, read this weirdly spiteful fiction we shat out that explains why all of them are dead forever, and furthermore, they deserved it for not selling better.>What's that? Beloved characters and faction leaders that existed in the fiction and battletome lore for 10+ years and were heavily teased as getting a new model? Ha Ha, actually they died a humiliating death between battletomes, the details of which you can check out here, including the extremely necessary 4 additional paragraphs about how they were repeatedly raped and eaten before dying and then their soul destroyed, just so we can replace them with some shitty new special character model no one cares about. AoS is rapidly reaching the point where just blatant retcons instead would be less insulting, honestly.
>>98845084>>What's that? Beloved characters and faction leaders that existed in the fiction and battletome lore for 10+ years and were heavily teased as getting a new model? Ha Ha, actually they died a humiliating death between battletomes, the details of which you can check out here, including the extremely necessary 4 additional paragraphs about how they were repeatedly raped and eaten before dying and then their soul destroyed, just so we can replace them with some shitty new special character model no one cares about.whos that?
>>98845084What are you even complaining about? That they bother to add lore to their shitty business decisions? Half of this is assumptions on you stop fucking having a mini Orktober every month and making it our problem
>>98844947in a lull between releases we'll get Fyreslayers and Mawtribes dropping alongside Kruleboyz, KO, and Tzeentch
>>98845088noone
>>98845090Why the fuck would they need to shit on Fyreslayer, BoC etc players even morwe than already having their shit squatted?It's straight up malicious.
>>98845095>shit onthey didn't
>>98845100>your entire faction got easily eliminated, deal with itYeah not at all
>>98845102>got easily eliminatednot what happened either
>>98845105cope
>>98845088>whos that?Glittermaw, who was positioned as the destined Ogre Faction leader since 2E had his brains bashed out and eaten by his shitty daughter and her new model. Not confirmed yet, but it's rumored that Bael-Grimnir AND his daughter are going to be killed off just to justify Fyreslayers having no leaders left. Also some nonsense about how every Vulkite Berserker in the entire realms all died at the same time for similar reasons.
>>98845108>every Vulkite Berserker in the entire realms all died at the same timeI think you have problems understanding what it means when a miniature goes out of production
>>98845090>That they bother to add lore to their shitty business decisions?Yes, assuming you're capable of reading, you would understand my point was that trying to justify every shitty business decision using lore just makes the lore worse and any attempt to actually engage with the setting lore increasingly untenable going forward.
>>98845084I do think gw should be more willing to retcon stuff in, the hiding thing gets really old really quickly.But overall I'm not per se opposed to things being a moving narrative instead of static. In theory it can help make connections between factions and the world, which is imo one of aos' bigger problems lorewise that everyone just kind of does their own thing. I'm just asking for some creativity here, they can do better than "hide until x".>>98845088Bael-grimnir I assume
I'm the one and only anon in /aosg/ who has ever read an issue of White Dwarf. Because of this I am the only anon who recognizes that Rhûna-Grimnir, heiress of the Vostarg Lodge and magmaqueen of Karak Angaraz, first appeared in Jordan Green's short story "Reignition" published in the June 2019 issue of White Dwarf, accompanying the Tome Celestial: Vostarg Lodge feature in that magazine.
>>98845109>I think you have problems understanding what it means when a miniature goes out of productionI think you have brain damage, and my case is much stronger than yours, given your shocking lack of reading comprehension.
>>98845109Anon, the whole discussion is exactly about this topic. Gw writes little humiliation rituals for units or factions being squatted. Sometimes it's executed well (or at least better), sometimes it just fucking sucks if it's /yourdudes/. >>98845119Right, sure would've been great to have a miniature of either these two established characters instead of ...ormyr and ashtongue
>>98845114Yeah I believe just deleting things from the setting and saying absolutely nothing at all is in fact an amazing idea
>>98845128>Beastmen died doing Beastmen things and like all Beastmen do after getting their ass kicked fucked off>dwarves got their asses kicked by Skaven for the 9000000000000000 time in their racial history Yeah really humilating that things that always happen just happened again. You need to fucking relax
>>98844710>>98844712>>98844749Okay, that gave me a good laugh. I call it base autism but really it’s just looking at the height/width ratio of the base + common assets on models like skulls. Once you realize that the more flat a base looks the wider it is, estimating a size is easier. It’s best when you have both the head on picture and one where it’s framed next to other minis in an army shot. 80/90mms always give me a bit of trouble to guess because I’ve never really worked with them.
>>98845128This is Warhammer not D&D bad things are going to happen to your faction regardless if they have models or not I don’t understand this
>>98845116LIke five years ago, I would have agreed with you that the moving narrative thing was a good thing, but it's gotten increasingly sketchy since then. Modern AoS is starting to remind me more of the American comic book industry, where everything is supposed to be this enduring unified timeline (except when it's not) but in practice what you have is an endless succession of new writers glazing their favorite characters and shitting all over the ones they don't like, which gets partially reset or changed by the next writer, and so on until the whole thing is just a mess. AoS is getting old enough now that the people who created the early setting and characters (and rules even) are completely different than the current crew, who have little to no respect for what came before. In another five years or so, this team will also move on and be replaced by another creative team with their own vision, and so on.Basically a living narrative is a much cooler thing when it's based on an at least somewhat coherent creative vision and not just month to month knee jerk corporate bickering and empire building accumulated over decades.
Malerion is just behind that rock bro. I know it.
>>98845132Overexplaining is always the mark of a poor fiction writer. I don't even care for Vulkites particularly, it's just an example of particularly childish and stupid lore writing, which admittedly is a GW specialty.
>>98845147>Basically a living narrative is a much cooler thing when it's based on an at least somewhat coherent creative vision and not just month to month knee jerk corporate bickeringThat's really what it comes down to in the end
>>98845147>but in practice what you have is an endless succession of new writers glazing their favorite characters and shitting all over the ones they don't like, which gets partially reset or changed by the next writer, and so on until the whole thing is just a mess.What fucking campaign books or novels have you been reading
>>98845157Id appreciate if you’d explain how things are childish for a faction to get beat up in a warhammer setting instead of just saying that
>>98845172This is really funny when the majority of characters in this edition new or old have all been some form of loser
>>98845147>not just month to month knee jerk corporate bickering and empire building accumulated over decades.Do you have a source for this or do I have to absolutely believe that’s the case like slaanesh dying, Orktober, and what else am I missing?
>>98845156I want to believe this so bad. It'd be the coolest thing gw did in years.>>98845157So does the new book have an explanation for vulkites leaving specifically? Because with individual units like that it's best to just move on and pretend fyreslayers have always been elite only imo. >>98845176Eh there's "wow these dorfs got btfo by chaos in the past and that's why they lost their holds and are now in the mixed human army looking to reclaim them" and there's "wow these dorfs got btfo so hard they straight up don't exist anymore lmao"It's the same difference as being a vampire counts versus a tomb kings player in 2015.
>>98845176How do you not understand that writing >And then every single Vulkite Berserker in the entire mortal realms, not a man, without exception, all died in battle simultaneously, the end. Is anything but dumb and childish. You could just say they took heavy losses and were largely phased out as a military force in favor of other formations (though some lodges might still use them, as a nod to people still using their Vulkite collections as clanshield proxies or whatever)At this point I have to assume you are both new to the concept of fiction and writing in general.
>>98845189>wow these dorfs got btfo by chaos in the past and that's why they lost their holds and are now in the mixed human army looking to reclaim them" and there's "wow these dorfs got btfo so hard they straight up don't exist anymore lmao"This is 9.5 out of 10 factions in AoS
>>98845197Please reread carefully before posting
>>98845185Believe what? That none of the old creative and rules leads are around? That's just a fact. That they are making massive changes in the setting, almost akin to an End Times for AoS? Also not in dispute by anyone. I'm not proposing a conspiracy theory, just observing that GW is a corporation and has the same problems with corporate drift that every other big company has.
reminder that fyreslayer holds specifically survived the age of chaos with pvre chad energy while everyone else had to flee to Azyr (or the skyports) but now I guess they all just died bro
>>98845191>And then every single Vulkite Berserker in the entire mortal realms, not a man, without exception, all died in battle simultaneously, the end.Is that printed lore or are you being overdramatic to emphasis a thing that has happened before
>>98845209We don't have the full Fyreslayer lore yet, supposedly there's gonna be a PTG book documenting their downfall, But it's what Boole has been saying for several months now.
>>98845202My mistake 9.5 out of 10 faction in AoS are the result of getting BTFO’d I’m still waiting for a point, is it because it’s your faction? You’re splitting ass hairs at this point to be upset
>>98845206Lofnir (and grefyrd) chad still holding out
>>98845205>That they are making massive changes in the setting,You know it was a massive change to the setting to not being a kaleidoscopic hellhole half in the realm of chaos or does that not count? Asking before I say anything else because we’re about to do the slaanesh thing
>>98845156It must be true, it's the funniest outcome
>>98845191Are we talking about the same guys who literally want to live the same life as their god who was too prideful to not kill himself in battle because he got helped out once? Those guys all died in battle? I’m shocked wtf
>store still had some soon to be OOP fyreslayer heroes>eh not like anyone will buy them, I'll get some soonish>2 days later>they're all gone nowThe fuck bro, are scalpers in action? I don't believe there's more FS players in this country than me who suddenly want grimwraths and runemasters.
>>98845218>shadow elves are literally secretly watching from every shadow>have done so for 11 years without anyone noticing
>>98845218He is literally sitting behind a rock in the Stormcast Danger Room he gave to sigmar to train them
>>98845222Checked Still funny Grimnir getting fucked to death by a big lizard is foundational lore, god what a way to go
>>98845246It should’ve been me
>>98845212Don't you think there's a bit of difference between>exists as a result of xAnd >doesn't exist as a result of x?
>>98845003Implying their prices haven't doubled across the board for all of their products everywhere
>>98845084Can’t wait for my factions single named character to fuck up his singular goal and be a laughing stock, entirely so James can fellate their precious ‘real’ factions. I’m trying to not get my hopes up for any new Ironjawz lore can you guys tell?
>>98845254Is that literally all you care about? I know you aren’t annoying enough to insinuate bad things happening is bad and wrong in Warhammer of all places, in AoS of all places the setting that only exists because nothing but bad things keep happening
>>98845264D&D is right over there buddy
>>98845264Don’t know about you but I got my first step towards united dwarves so good luck seething on the outside of the club
>>98845223I don't even play fyreslayers but all the discourse has made me appreciate how cool the grimwrath is and I've been wanting to pick him up
>>98845278The Nu-lore killed off my Fyreslayers. Leave my poor KO alone!
>>98845274Why would I want dnd? This is AoS
>>98845285It's genuinely one of their best models and got squatted in favor of far worse models(exile, flamekeeper) purely because they were newer. Same for the runemaster but I can see why people don't care for the chinstrap beard.Battlesmith is the one I do get as he does kind of look like a slightly fancier vulkite.And the doomseeker was always just a novelty model from Warhammer Quest.
>>98845298You don’t want AoS where your faction doesn’t get a win every edition in fact it gets beat on
>>98845274>His only defense is a non-sequitor that doesn't even make sense. Thanks for the concession, I guess?
>>98845308As if that post makes sense? Where they’re so ass mad they reason malice on retards to promote what exactly? I don’t really care to engage with hurt feelings I rather make fun of them I’m not a therapist
>>98845318Don’t you get it? GW personally fucking despises Nagash that’s why he lost the soul wars against teclis. Bad things only happen in setting because they’re out to get me
>>98845230>I’ve painted a playable LRL army in the time I’ve waited for MalerionI was originally wanting his faction but saw the writing on the wall that Chorfs were coming first and settled for LRL. If his army plays like I imagine it will (tricksy, squishy, high skill floor), it’ll be a playstyle I’ve grown tired of stumbling into because I like the models.
>>98845305I agree that the Grimwrath was a cooler model, but at least the Exile used to have sick rules. I'm doubly mad now that I know they squatted the Grimwrath AND nerfed the Exile into the fucking ground. They also left the Flamekeeper as not a priest, even though that never made any sense and the removal of the Runemaster left a huge door open for him to get promoted. Instead we get one prayer lore that has mostly nothing to do with Fyreslayers and only one priest hero. They'll probably expand Fyreslayers again, 2-3 editions from now, but as they stand now they just look way less fun to play than they used to be. No cool prayers, no strong priest, no sick as hell endless spells, remaining heroes mostly nerfed, HGB losing their weapon options, which is an indirect nerf, etc etc. The AoR will probably be unplayable just because of all the little nerfs and changes they made to Fyreslayers.
>>98845318Malice? Lmao you’re reading way too much into it buddy. I play an NPC faction and have the hopes of having a fraction of the love GW gives to chaos, and I know I’ll never get it. Maybe you should go calm down
>>98845060The disposessed literally live in hiding in the Cities of sigmar because they cannot take back their holds. Any single novel or book with them explicitly has them talking about how much they want their holds do you think if you asked a dispossed if he could go back to Karak Buttfuck instead of living in the sewers as a slave what do you think they would say? I mean sorry as friendly productive labor. They are not living in the cities by choice they explicitly left holds they made in Azyr to help build the cities so they could retake their holds they are in hiding they do not have the power or influence to do that. This is a distinction without a difference. There’s a reason dispossessed reclaimed like what three names holds? There’s a port city somewhere in fucking Ulgu I think I don’t remember and two more I forgot because the dispossessed never had the power to do it really >B-b-b-ut there is a difference Gazul hid them Oh sorry instead of being his by a god to bide their time they got hid by a god to bide their time you’re right there is a difference here.
>>98845335Oh so you’re crying about being made a laughing stoke, joke, humiliation rituals, getting kicked while you’re down etc just for fun? You don’t feel like that? Assuming youre the same anon I hope you wouldn’t be a different guy defending acting like a fucking kid who’s parent yelled at them
>>98845358Are you brown?
>>98845147>>98845172Can you address that? I’ve read the vast majority of campaigns and supplements what books are you talking about
>>98845369>His only defense is a non-sequitor that doesn't even make sense.Thanks for the concession, I guess?
>>98845354>do you think if you asked a dispossed if he could go back to Karak Buttfuck instead of living in the sewers as a slave what do you think they would say?Sounds like a great narrative hook for this new army!
Lmao. Probably an Indian; he has to copy another anon’s message in some weird gotcha. Go tend to your izzat little dalit
>>98845378Congrats it’s called Khazalid Empires, enjoy!
Is there any lore on the new High Kyng?
half this thread would commit suicide if they had to stomach half the shit SCE and Sigmar fans go through. They’ve been getting “humiliated” since like halfway into realm gate wars. iirc the last definitive win they had was reviving the god of thighs and then immediately got their shit rocked for it.
>>98845397What's a queen in AoSism?
>>98845398My orc ass in a humiliation competition and the fatcast sigmarine walks in
>>98845405You’re an orc all you care about is fighting and dying fighting. Imagine the crux of your faction is YOU WILL DIEYOU WILL GET YOUR SHIT KICKEDCHAOS WILL FUCK YOUR WIFE AELVES WILL FUCK YOUR HUSBADNAGASH WILL FUCK YOUR CATGREENSKINS Like okay man sure
Today I will remind them.
>>98845398>Be Sigmar>Travel the realms while everyone else is playing sim city in their home realms >Find Magical nukes scattered all over the place >Cant break em>Cant turn em off>Receive magical algebra machine from Aelf>Ask Dwarf if he can turn it into a magical retard machine to hide magical nukes nobody does anything about >Aelf finds out>Aelf leaves you to get raped by Nagash specifically because of that Thanks Teclis
>>98845417I feel like the FEC range has been forgotten. Vince won.
The Indian is still seething. Amazing. Do they ever calm down or does it just kinda stay forever?
>>98845423Forgotten how
>>98845412Can I watch the Aelves fuck my husband atleast
>>98845436No one cares. No one plays them. No one posts them.But Vince gets posted. Vince is eternal.
>>98845445>No one cares. No one plays them. No one posts them.Such is the power of Nagash
>>98845412Speaking of do Stormcast still fuck or was that just that one book
>>98845206Lorelet Every first forged lodge fell. Fyreslayers survived because all but one Runeson left to make successor lodges, and on and on. Absolute tourist.
>>98845452As of yet just that one book but there isn’t any thing to suggest they don’t in fact there’s way more to suggest they do
>>98845417FEC is easily the most popular death faction and they get discussed all the time here.
>>98845305>doomseeker was always just a novelty model from Warhammer Quest.sold separately since day 1. Is the Darkoath Chieftain just a novelty too? Retard
>>98845492Yes.
>>98845185Okay but something was definitely up with slaanesh though. Idk if they were really going to kill him or just put the sucker on ice until they figured out which way to go, but SOMETHING was happening there.
>>98844564That makes me like them more for some reason I like that language scheme>>98844704Then what are gholems? The constructs?
>>98845535Yeah it was being imprisoned and raped by Aelves.
>>98844869I kinda wanna live there now
>>98844863only if you’re handsome and tall and have a big… you know…
>>98845539The gholems are the constructs.
>>98845398>god of thighs Who
>>98845535He was/is on ice. That’s what was up. Getting taken out of the picture for as long as he was is still a pretty big deal all things considered.
>>98845557>and have a big… you know…I'm afraid my beard is lackluster.
>>98844925When you put it like that, it is pretty damn inspired…
>dwarf acoustics are newSTOLEN VALOR
>>98845021>>98845025>>98845027always cracks me up
>>98845571Allariele or however the hell you spell her name
>>98845696Inshallarielle
>>98845702forgot pic
>>98845398Price you pay for being immortalInstant jobber status
Can someone tell me the best battle tactics for a retarded Skaven player to use? I'm too stupid to know what's good to play.
>>98845827When your faction can exist without the aegis of the storm god you can talk
>>98845148I still don't get how that vertical map of shyish is meant to be interpreted, what lands are where as far as our maps of shyish are concerned?
>LGS got 20 of the boxes and sold out by 12pm today I still dont like the factions looks but I am hoping I can get a second hand battletome for cheap.
>>98845890I'm not sure I understand the confusion. Stygxx is part of the Prime Innerlands. That's the area we've had maps of going back to 2e. We can see where it is in relation to the Nadir. I don't know how you don't get it.
>>98845911biggest store in my country has sold a grand total of 1 since I last checked this morning.You live in a funny place.
>>98845708>>98845696Oooooh yeah that makes sense
>>98845922Do you like in transnistria or something
I was definitely not expecting regular dwarves to spur this amount of discussion
>>98845938The lore is great, even if the way they "returned" is questionable. Its also a bit tonally different than most other battletomes.
>>98845952Tonally different how? Just because they're an Order faction?
>>98845938I think the problem, as per usual with GW, is execution. AoS is a fuck-off massive setting, but it does a poor job of communicating that there are groups and things happening outside of whatever the current narrative is. In my opinion, this leaves AoS feeling like it's a series of self-contained bubbles rather than a cohesive world(s). How the Helsmiths were introduced was already mentioned by another anon, but it's a good example of what I'm talking about. Chorfs were a think in the setting prior to the Helsmiths release, but you never got that sense they were doing anything in any real capacity.I'm not asking for a a full range release for anything, mind you. But it wouldn't kill GW to make a conscious effort to throw out a line here and there about X group doing Y thing in a battletome lore blurb or in a BL book. That way, if they do decide to release a new range, it doesn't feel like they just materialized from the fucking aether.
>>98846003no its a bit more hopeful. Most other factions, especially order, are always on about how they are wronged or something while the new holds are about taking back what's theirs and finding a future. Sylvaneth and Deepkin for example are both a lot more malicious just from their opening.
>>98845887Blazing onslaught is probably easy for skaven, right? I play slaves to darkness and a big thing for me is to do a few mortal wounds in every phase (cast a spell, shoot a bit, some impact mortals on charge phase, combat, maybe something end of turn). That triggers Blazing Onslaught easily.
>>98846084Blazing Onslaught is the one I stick with because my chad Doomwheel gets it easily. I have absolutely no idea what to pick for my second one.
How are Fyreslayers looking?
>>98846098squat(ted)
>>98846098Honestly, I think if Khazalites get a second wave, having their range triple in size is probably worth the squatting. They trade a bunch of pity heroes for actual build options, but maybe I'm not fyrepilled enough to have an opinion.
>>98846124That's one hell of an "if" , Kaptain.
>>98846124Actually they lost their real heroes in favor of the pity ones, skinwalker.
>>98846124If it was just the pity heroes going that'd be one thing, but the vulkites are the really annoying loss>use them as clanshields!Yeah sure (though you have to rebase them) but still losing your core infantry fucking sucks and kicks the legs from under you.Yeah they looked ass but c'mon
Has anyone uploaded the Arkanauts episode yet?
>>98846220If you want to watch it this badly you should just subscribe.
Is there any source for the older edition aos books? Not seeing anything in the trove, does gee dubs crack down on that sort of thing super hard? Just trying to recover the books I already owned and have since lost.
>>98845922Sure, bud. We believe you :D
>>98846260Thanks. :)
new dwarf tome is actually ridiculously mobile, thats surprising
>>98846048Is there really no mention of the other factions before they become their own thing? I can’t recall any off the top of my head but I’m sure there must be a few>>98846228How did you lose them?
>>98846271Idk its been almost a decade and ive gone through major life changes including a couple moves. I dug up all my warhammer crap recently and only had my 8th edition 40k book sadly.
>>98846228What books do you need? I've pdfs/scans of a good few
>>98845354they aren’t actual slaves though are they
>>98846284GHB 2018, whatever u got for grand alliance books, blades of khorne & seraphon battle tomes. Looking to run narrative games with the kids.
>>98846228Tcrepo has the warscroll compendiums if you wanna go that far backFor tomes mainly just ask around here, there's a couple guys with a pretty big collection
>>98846336Yeah honestly I could almost make due with just warscrolls and basic rules but gw has most warscrolls hidden behind pay walls now for whatever reason
Anyone have the current OBR tome? iirc it has some Thanquol lore in it? That's all I'm interested in.
>>98846054It’s the first tome of the army Don’t worry GW is going to enshitify them before the next edition can drop. They refuse hope to be an actual theme of AoS now. You’ll get hope but it’s going to be covered in shit, vomit, and the entrails of your brother also Elves are fucking assholes another thing GW needs to do apparently
>>98846292It’s a meme, there was a time the only time dispossessed ever came up was to laugh at them for being construction workers, sewer dwellers, and slaves to umgi. And no it wasn’t just one guy doing that
>>98846376In what setting are elves not assholes?
>>98846387Not that guy but Lord of the rings elves are pretty noble as a rule
How do we have pictures but no tome :(
>>98846392did we read the same books
>>98846323GHB 2017 (These costs are used for the Grand Alliance books and the Battletomes I'm giving you)https://files.catbox.moe/g83kxm.pdfSeraphon 2017https://files.catbox.moe/wawudy.pdfBlades of Khorne 2017https://files.catbox.moe/i5uqp0.pdf
>>98844850It’s really funny how in AoS you can delve too deeply and just end up on the other side of the universe like a looney tunes skit with China
>>98844843When are we getting six smiths lore also why six? Is six important to dwarves or sigmar? I thought his number was 12? Is that why it’s 6, they’re half his height?
>>98846402>>98846336Tyvm for the resources
I do not care for KH being a light mirror to HoH
>>98846417https://ageofsigmar.lexicanum.com/wiki/Six_SmithsIt's a Stormcast reforging thing.
Anyone paint the new Warhammer heroes yet? Need ideas rather than just copying the box art.
>>98846124>Squat BSB>Squat horde infantry>Squat Endless Spellsfrfr things look PEAK glad to see Fyreslayers are finally a playable army now that they have a unique foot hero!
>>98845222>>98845211>>98845209>>98845191I’ll wait until we have further confirmation before passing judgement. I think some of them should survive but they aren’t the most unbelievable choice to have this happen to them I guess.
>>98845911Preorders are less than the stock they'll get/order. I picked up Mawtribes from mine yesterday but it was sold out day 1 originally. Maybe it's cancelled orders but I think GW just issue more for a solid month
>>98846464Before passing Grudgement, you mean. That's their new word.
>>98846444Grand Alliance BooksPath to Glory 2017Original Rulebook Age of Sigmar Skirmish and its errataAll for 1st EditionHave fun.https://www.filemail.com/d/zseenrazffcrvrh
>>98846417Grungni could only get it up 6 times
>>98846471>Age of Sigmar Skirmish and its erratanta but wtf
What's the lowdown on Doom Flayers? Will they finally help my Skaven army actually score battle tactics? Or are they just useless with no synergy?
>>98846511Warcry before Warcry was a thing, basically. Was actually kinda fun
>>98846205I like or dislike armies based on how much i enjoy looking at them. Everything that got cut was stuff I didn't enjoy looking at. Everything left is stuff I do. The addition of leaf blowers is a negative, but I don't mind the hand cannons, so overall there will be an increase in armies I like looking at.
>>98846532Lore is the most important part of an army to me. Can't play a faction in anything if I don't like their fluff
>>98845146You’re telling me D&D never has to deal with anything like this? I guess they got lucky in some places after all…
>>98846380is this stuff in battletomes or the BL stuff? kind of adds a new dimension to them
>>98845119Look at that, I guess they do dot their Is sometimes…
>>98846575There’s no reasoning with him. He thinks wanting a single win for your faction is the same as asking for no losses, ever.
>>98845952Aside from the gazul ex machina I do like the new fluff, especially the ancestor god stuff. Inghilde is cool. Though I wish she was hashut's kid instead of gazul's.
>>98846449Lexicanum spared no expense on that article.
>>98845119Perhaps being squatted was a mercy.
So is every faction just going to be headed by a girlboss now? What's next, a new Everchosen rises and is female that deposes Archeon? A female skaven rises to the top against all odds to radically change how skaven society? A female fungus showing what real anger looks like?
>>98846449Is groongni the only god with confirmed demigod children running around? For a semi mythological setting like AoS there's a surprising lack of them.
Not sure if this is the best thread to ask but does anyone have the Soulbound RPG archive that was going around?
>>98846788>What's next, a new Everchosen rises and is female that deposes Archeon?You mean Abraxia?
>>98846802Tfw saved by having a big centerpiece model GW can't squat.Shieeet Archie.
>>98846788Literally just now we have a new faction releasing and the main character is a dude.The last new faction after that, helsmiths, also with a dude at the helmYou're just bitching to bitch.
>>98846788I'm amazed khazalites are led by a high king but I guess they were already pushing it with all the valaya stuff.
>>98846822Is Urak Taar the head of the Helsmiths? I thought he was just the OG daemonsmith.
I hope we get news about the EOE on monday.
>>98846788Gr8 b8
>>98845417The hunched over pose is not good. The model is almost all cape from any other angle.
>>98846863He's leader of the Forge Anathema, so the main subfaction on all the box art. I don't think there is a supreme leader.
>>98846822Just because anon's exaggerating doesn't mean that hasn't been an obvious trend by GW since 2e.
>>98846863He's the de facto dictator of the paramount ziggurat, he's as close to a leader as they have under Hashut.
Is there any faction leader that is not also the biggest model in the faction? Skagrott is the only one, right
>>98846897It's already a girl-coded faction, so there's no reason to rage at Sylvaneth's female leaders.
>>98846901No fuck off with that sky is falling bullshit every fucking thread is filled with doomposting this shit is boring and annoying. If I wanted to post in /40kg/ I would go there
>>98846449I know that but we don’t have any idea of them or any real information beyond really powerful soul smiths
>>98846659>single win Yeah man that’s totally what you were bitching about. Right, right, right.
What is the purpose of sprues like this? Who does this benefit? Why not just bundle them together? >t. abhorrent gorewarden instructions
How do I paint these two without just copying the boxart colors?!
>>98846584Mostly BL, some in Soulbound, and the core book. Of a story features a dwarf character they have like two archetypes. Guy with a chip on his shoulder who’s about to make that chip your problem or guy who’s been fucked so many times he’s wizened and nonchalant (for a dwarf)
>>98846918Used to be we had some female factions, some male ones, and mixed. But then male armies suddenly became problematic and they had to force them to be mixed as well.KO and Fyreslayers being good examples as navy and mercenary expeditions and thus obviously being all male but then GW had to really hamfistedly change that with shit like this >>98845119 and now the KO tome cover is a fat woman.
>>98846949Choose colours you like and pai t them that instead
>>98846949Give em based Hallowheart colors
>>98846956There’s nothing about either of those dwarves that suggest they should be inherently all male, especially in a post apocalyptic setting where everybody has to work and fight or die
>>98846949follow ur heart
>>98846960If GW kills Hallowheart I will light myself on fire in front of their headquarters
How long did the Khazalite Holds Army Set last before selling out? Because when I bought the Ogor Mawtribes Army Set, it took 40 mins total for it to sell out.
>>98846961They were obviously patriarchal in 1e.And that's all the more reason not to send your women into the meatgrinder.Also AoS is not the apocalyptic end times setting you seem to think it is.
>>98846974Good news you can still buy it.
>>98846977Not in the US I can't
>>98846941Stay mad pajeet
>>98846984I guess third world countries get very limited quantities.
>>98846975>They were obviously patriarchal in 1e.This is not mutually exclusive with my claim>And that's all the more reason not to send your women into the meatgrinder.If you have the freedom and military power to let half your population do nothing we should be in the age of Fyreslayers not sigmar >Also AoS is not the apocalyptic end times setting you seem to think it is.Yeah it’s actually fucking worse if you include the necroquake, inverted Shyish, dark skies, skavendoom, and the seven other magical apocalypses happening all at once
>>98846984>>98846977>>98846974Wow, that's crazy. I check last night and it said "coming soon." Check today and it says: "sold out online."Was going to ask my local to order it, but lol lmao.
>>98846900>I don't think there is a supreme leaderIsn't there only two named characters in the faction so far anyways? There's Taar and that fat bitch from that Underworld box. I could be wrong though. I've only skimmed the battletome, and as far as I know, that's the only real lore source for them.>>98846906Goddamn, I don't want to make the monkey's paw curl, but Halsmith really need more named characters to flesh out the different aspects of their society. The daemonsmiths and priesthood are in a perpetual dick measuring contest, so it'd be neat to have a high priest or priestess for Taar to compete with.
>>98846960What are Hallowheart's colors?>>98846963My heart is unsure.
>>98847000>yes literally every single miniature is male, they're ruled by runefathers and sons, women are never mentioned but urmm technically it doesn't say women can't be Fyreslayers even though they had to write in a cope short story about bael Grimnir breaking tradition in making a daughter his heirYou have to go back, slimy worm. I won't waste any more time on you.
>>98847049>yes literally every single miniature is maleThis doesn’t mean anything>they're ruled by runefathers and sons, women are never mentionedFalse the first mention was in 2018 in fact the necroquake was so bad that Fyreslayer women had to take more roles in society as they’re not retarded to be so stringent during the apocalypse >it doesn't say women can't be Fyreslayers even though they had to write in a cope short story about bael Grimnir breaking tradition in making a daughter his heirYes that’s how that works no matter if it makes you mad. They were healers and defenders until they had to step up
>>98845918where is that on the vertical map?
>>98846916There's a handful>volturnos>bastian/vandus >brokk>olynder (if you go by "mass" the black coach has her best though she's obviously taller)Who would be the faction leader for each of the chaos factions by the way? Like is it skarbrand or khul for khorne, shalaxi/the twins/sigvald for slaanesh, rotigus or festus for nurgle?I suppose you gotta split it down in mortal and daemon halves.Poor tzeentch doesn't even have a noteworthy mortal champion now that the curseling is a whole archetype.
>>98847080Gazul's gate relative position on the vertical map is presumably in the spot where Gazul's gate is marked on the vertical map. >>98845148
https://youtu.be/5WOBQCWLvFkIs this sylvaneth or maggotkin core
>>98846969Good news anon they're mentioned in the TLW map of next edition. Rip tempest's eye though>>98847037Blue and white. Could be pretty cool on a fire mage honestly, make the fire blue too.
>>98847110>presumablyare you sure? because that would mean that if you were in the prime innerlands you couldn't look down the nadir, since the hole starts way above on a different plane above yours and the hole has walls
>>98847136I like the blue fire idea but isn't that more just Tzeentch stuff unless you're a specific stormcast?
I left AoS when CoS came out and nuked my Warriors-and-Quarrellers only Dispossesseed army I was mid-building. (I had a whole theme and story for My Guys about it) (also I never played WHFB, for the record)I come back bc New Dorfs, and I just want to say in the most autistic way possible...I hate how GW has no concept/respect for their own invented language. I know it's the minor-est of dumb things to spaz about. But it would have been so simple to like...consult their own wordlists and construct things in a way that made sense. Not just lumping random phonemes together.Like, Dron is thunder, but Thunderers are called Thunderers bc the word for handgun is Thrund. Kromdron just...means nothing, really. Same with Thrundrin, and Thrundok is a bastardization of Thrundi/Thrundaz.Anyway. I still wanna buy the things, even though I haven't played in years and I know it'll prolly be stupid, based on the slight rules leaks in here so far.
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>>98839515Just got Hashut-pilled and bought the spearhead, anyone have the helsmiths tome they'd be willing to share?
>>98847157At least your warriors and thunderers are good clanshields/clangunner proxies if you still have em. /yourdudes/ will prevail after all
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>>98847216But it wasn’t page 10…
>>98847147Yeah, that’s their domain, it would have to be a different color. Maybe white.>>98847105What about the one that messed with that moon?
>>98846897Tree mechs are so cool bros…
>>98847255That's what I thought. I don't hate the Hallowheart idea though. If it just feels like a pallette swap. The regular fire can work as a good contrast at least.
>>98847247We're at 600+ replies and like one post away from page 9, I feel like we're well past throoding
>>98846952hmmmm guess i need to take a closer look then >>98846999kek
>>98846975>Also AoS is not the apocalyptic end times setting you seem to think it is.Lorelet
