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>What's Trench Crusade?
An indie wargame with World War One holy crusader vs forces of hell dark fantasy vibes.

>How do I get started?
All the files are free online:
https://www.trenchcrusade.com/rules/

Old TC mega:
https://mega.nz/folder/70QH0BBa#Eg-blxYQKkY_C02wErnFTQ

>third party sources for making trenchers:
https://pastebin.com/YzXPVUAc
Vote with your wallet in protest against so many promises walked back on instead of using the official plastics.

>Trench Companion, warband builder and campaign tracker
https://trench-companion.com/

>Previous Thread:
>>98768430
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Are there any plans for 6mm/10mm scale wargames in the TC setting?
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>>98847551
>plans for TC
Lmao lol even
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Anyone itt telling you to make your minis grimier or dirtier or cake on more and more shit when your minis sufficiently and objectively reflect the TC aesthetic are no better than american blacks who can’t taste anything, can’t hear anything, and can’t see anything unless it’s extremely overdone or exaggerated - this is why their “culture” centers around excessively seasoned/hot food, loud music that is nothing but simple beats, and fashion that is literally bright bold solids bordering on neon not to mention shiny diamonds and gold. They can’t do nuance or subtlety or have complex thoughts because they literally cannot perceive reality on a level that isn’t super obvious. In summary, anons telling you to add more effects are spiritually American blacks.
This is why they can’t enjoy sipping fine liquor, the actual taste of steak, the dignity of non-attention-seeking clothing and hairstyles, or listening classical music. All these things are beyond their ability to even perceive. So the American black, so too the no-games TC fanboy who are “regulars” at their local game store.
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>>98847551
Nigga we don't even know what their plans are for plastics, or rules refreshes, they aint saying shit. But also no.
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Plastic Black Grail when
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>>98848337
They are in the next 2 player box that's coming next year, it's going to be Black Grail vs Sultanate.
Source: my ass
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>>98848088
They already have your money
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Gay woke shit
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>>98849993
Eat a gun homo
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I hate how astroturfed this stupid game is.
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>>98847156
Creators are on record saying there is no good or evil (in a game where one side are literal demons from hell) and are terrified of upsetting islamists to the point they are dindus. And they appealed hard to the competitive 40k market.

Why would I play a game by such spineless cowards?
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>>98850202
>Why would I play a game by such spineless cowards?
Because you can own the 40chuds amirite? :^))) This game *women*!
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>>98847641
>TFW no plans for a TC RPG

Feels bad...
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>98850202
>98850206
Gays Wokeslop shills
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>>98850317
You can dislike GW and TC both, you know.
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>>98850407
Anon I think you wrote that 'n' sideways.
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>>98850206
Only r*gerians post that way anon. How many kapeikas is your bot paying you?
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>>98850210
Be the change you wish to see anon
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>>98850210
It would be fairly straight forward to convert Never Going Home.
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Thoughts on the warband? Also, what do you guys use for a tank palanquin?

## Trench Ghosts? In this economy? ##

Faction: Trench Ghosts
Rating: 699 Ducats | 0 Glory
Patron: War Priest Charon

## Elites ##

Heretic Priest - 193D
Battlekit: Grenade Launcher, Sacrificial Blade, Tank Palanquin

Barbed Wire Banshee - 138D
Battlekit: Sacrificial Blade, Reinforced Armour, Trench Shield

## Troops ##

Heretic Trooper - 40D
Battlekit: Bolt-Action Rifle

Heretic Trooper - 42D
Battlekit: Bolt-Action Rifle, Bayonet

Heretic Trooper - 42D
Battlekit: Bolt-Action Rifle, Bayonet

Anointed Heavy Infantry (Trench Ghost) - 122D
Battlekit: Automatic Shotgun, Bayonet, Reinforced Armour, Trench Shield

Anointed Heavy Infantry (Trench Ghost) - 122D
Battlekit: Automatic Shotgun, Bayonet, Reinforced Armour, Trench Shield

## Stash ##

Stashed Ducats: 1
Unspent Glory: 0
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>>98851132
>>98851006

My thought was to modify the YZE version of T2K in some way.
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>>98851222
Priest is too expensive for a 700 ducat army, it weakens the rest of the warband
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https://www.trenchcrusade.com/trench-wire/community/trench-crusade-faithful-victory/
The event ends in faithful victory.
Cursed be the slaves of yhwh.
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>>98851222
>Take the sacrificial blade off the priest. A hammer is good enough for now.
>autoshotties are for scrubs who need help aiming, not your anointed
>consider a few wretched with a butterknife early on in the campaign. You can sell them back at full cost later
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What’s the status of Venice in the setting? I was looking at the map and it seems like it was wiped out, but I just want to make sure.
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>>98854493
All we know is Eligos specifically took it with his mechanical armies and War Cardinal Domenico Alidosi wishes to reclaim it.
https://www.trenchcrusade.com/lore/war-cardinals/
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>>98854414
Scoreboard CharonRats, Franz Ferdinand will guide us to Byzantium, also RIP cyprus you will not be missed.
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Played an intro game last weekend to get a mate up to speed with the new rules, was heaps of fun. Court vs Heretics, the court spanked on VPs
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How many shotguns is too many for a warband? Between the two Stosstruppen kits I have 5 and 3 flamethrowers, and I will be mainly facing Black Grail
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>>98851337
It's just that I wanted to have a palanquin right away, how would you arm him? Even without the palanquin I mean
>>98854443
Something like this?
## Trench Ghosts? In this economy? v2 ##

Faction: Trench Ghosts
Rating: 698 Ducats | 0 Glory
Patron: War Priest Charon

## Elites ##

Heretic Priest - 180D
Battlekit: Grenade Launcher, Great Hammer/Maul, Tank Palanquin

Barbed Wire Banshee - 138D
Battlekit: Sacrificial Blade, Reinforced Armour, Trench Shield

## Troops ##

Heretic Trooper - 42D
Battlekit: Bolt-Action Rifle, Bayonet

Anointed Heavy Infantry (Trench Ghost) - 135D
Battlekit: Grenade Launcher, Great Hammer/Maul, Reinforced Armour

Anointed Heavy Infantry (Trench Ghost) - 125D
Battlekit: Flamethrower, Reinforced Armour

Wretched - 26D
Battlekit: Trench Knife

Wretched - 26D
Battlekit: Trench Knife

Wretched - 26D
Battlekit: Trench Knife

## Stash ##

Stashed Ducats: 2
Unspent Glory: 0
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Help me /trench/, I'm going to a tournament in less than 2 months, I need a good tac list so that I can paint it and play it a bit before the event, what would you suggest?
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>>98850202
DESU, literal demons from hell being morally grey is something that dates back to Milton and Paradise Lost at least, if not further back.
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>>98859306
Don't expect these kinds of people, the kind that would be infatuated with 40k slop, to be well-read or be able to comprehend anything outside of very trite, simplistic and just plainly childish moral zeitgeist
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>>98860266
I.e an average /pol/ chud
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>>98860266
>>98860292
nta but you really going to say demons from hell are nuanced.
No wonder you nazis support islamofacism
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This fag really is a 40gurgler desu
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>>98860266

Only retards who read the beginning think paradise lost has morally grey demons.

Satan and the others are petulant assholes that revel in the fall of man and reject multiple chances to atone out of vanity and pride.
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>>98860730
touch grass and take meds
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Playing in a campaign right now, I'm rocking knights of avarice and my chorister rolled a patron skill. Can I use Money Can Buy Anything to have another Machine Armor? I've got it with Corrupts Merchants.
Also, Book of Golems in the Rare Locations table:
>You can purchase Battlekit for it in the Quartermaster Step, using your own Armoury Tables instead of the ones in the Iron Sultanate Faction List.
plus up to 50 ducats in formulas.
If I give him Seal of Solomon, would it be able to use items from both Knights of Avarice battlekit and Equipment from the Iron Sultanate, meaning mainly wind amulet and medikit?
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>>98849993
May we see it?
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>>98850202
The completely free lore on the TC website makes it very clear that the demons of Hell are irredeemably evil, making particular note of Beelzebub and Moloch. It also states that those heretics who believe they are not fighting for evil, but rather for freedom, are entirely deluded by the various tricks demons pull on them.
In short, you’re an ignoramus retard.
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>>98847156
TC has lost momentum sadly. Also no one gives a fuck about prussians, sacred affliction and raiders, everyone wants multi part plastics of the main 5 factions, not the subs. A winning move would be to allow people to "build a box" by choosing individual models and bits in an order to build their warbands or help kitbash their sub factions, kind of like how you can buy individual Lego bricks and build out your "build."
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>>98864695
Idk, people at the flgs seems pretty happy with new stuff, you might just be chudding out
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Companion anon here, as we're all aware there was a big PHP update yesterday. We've still got some problems in a few regions. I've been on call with our host's support team, it is a known issue that Wordpress (where our data is stored) is having trouble in some regions and that this has been reported by a lot of other sites.

So bad news is I can't do anything myself to fix it right away. Good news is that some people are working on it as we speak.
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>>98864851
What new stuff?
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>>98864695
It's odd the focus they're putting on the Prussians. I don't dislike them at all and the models in the Carcass Front are my favourite they've done so far (picrel) but TC feels so aimless/directionless since the launch I really don't know what their overarching plan is. I hope the pace picks up at some point but I suspect they're lacking some sort of soulless corporate aspect to whip the flighty artists into gear and get them to hurry the fuck up.

>>98862841
But anon you don't understand, one guy made an ambiguous statement in a discord server one time.
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>>98847156
Isnt this that WOKE game?
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>>98864695
>>98865926
The Prussians suck.
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>98866866
You need to be 18 to post here, bud. Come back in 5 years.
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>>98866872
I'm going to be honest, I also think they suck. I'm a black grail(durge)/antioch(alba) player and it's weird to me that they are shilling them so hard. Haven't actually played the game in ages to be honest. Also the main fan discord (previously known as the official discord) is so trooned out I had to leave. I tried to ignore it but jesus fucking christ those people are insufferable. Saying all this, I'm frustrated because I actually like the game and lore, it just now feels like the company is meandering around aimlessly being retarded. Had no interest in carcass front in the end because the models did not interest me.
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>>98867018
>Also the main fan discord (previously known as the official discord) is so trooned out I had to leave.
It's pretty bad. The most annoying thing is how they do this
>Guys no politics allowed, we can all agree on that right? Noone wants politics in their games
>btw nothing we believe in is politics :) It's just all "human rights" and "out identities" so we can spam tranny shit as much as we want
it's such obnoxious faggotry that every not explicitly-RW space does now.
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>>98867056
It's a shame because I like the game but that shit puts off normal people. Haven't been able to find a sane place online for TC that ain't a graveyard but I haven't looked recently so who knows. Was in the process of building my OC doughnut steel dirge executor (fallen Slavic princess) but it's now on my pile of shame (in spirit, didn't buy the bits I needed in the end). Plus I don't like working with resin. Don't know why, just don't like 'em. Makes me want to start painting them again.
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>>98867085
Sadly I think the devs took too clear a side too early to try and muster up any non-tranny movement now. Maybe in a few years someone can try to start a normal TC community and build some momentum.
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>>98866866
That's funny 'cause i have heard a lot of potential players getting put off by what they perceive as alt-right themes. And that's from people who regularly play Warhammer 40K.
My guess is the connection between american christian nationalism/chrsitian extremism and the various alt-right movements it has seeped into.
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>>98867056
>>98867154
And here we see the Duality of Man, everybody.
Damned if you do, Damned if you don't. Whatever you do you will drive away certain groups.
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>>98867154
Giving the benefit of the doubt to you that you're being sincere but that sounds like those people are massively retarded as the themes you've listed are clear from the outset of the game. Like saying you know a group of people put off by beef stew because they realised halfway through eating it that it has beef in it, and "that's coming from people who eat beef burgers".
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>>98867194
>>98867154
My guess would be that those kind of people can suspend their disbelief for Necromunda because it is so sci-fi-y but can't for Trench Crusade because it is more realistic and set in an alternate earth while still being fantastical.
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>>98867203
Ah yes I see. I guess the game isn't for everyone but I stand by the themes being clear from the outset. If you don't like those themes then fair enough, don't eat the beef stew.
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Why do people love to troll in this thread?
Is this trolling deserved?
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>>98867244
Because it's easy and you get big returns.
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>>98865926
I'd assume they are blocked by Archon that can barely manage their current tiny range. Pretty much everything is constantly out of stock
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>>98867244
Mentall illness and lack of parental attention
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>>98867244
>Why do people love to troll in this thread?
There are many reasons. I can name some:

There was a time when anons had to carefully post when talking about Trench Crusade because of janny bias in defense of trench crusade. Even sincere posts got the hammer on them. Anons had to talk like voicing an honest opinion on plebbit but afraid of getting downvoted.
Thee trolling is "revenge" because post sharty hack the biased janny might be gone.
I don't know why the janny defense of Trench Crusade bias is still denied to this day, but I guess telling a lie long enough will make it true.

Holier than thou hipsterism because not Warhammer is a big one. This coupled by the unprofessional siding of the inq28 mods also blew the lid up. "We don't care lmao" when called out on banning on vibes and not actions basically sums up their mentality and TC team still sided with them.

TC has betrayed its founding selling points after the big kickstarter payout. The plastic Prussian prices not being competitive was the first big sign. More has come out.
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>>98869204
NTA, but you need to fuck back to your contaiment thread.
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>>98869248 (me)
Case in point with the boogeyman thing that >>98869204 proved correct.
In my honest opinion I think the zealotry in defending TC and the terminally online spergs that will defend TC to the death even after all that has happened from FFI is another reason trolls come here. The "zealots" for lack of a better term see trolls and their enemies in every post. And genuine posts talking about concerns for Trench Crusade before the info came out got branded as trolls. I think those posts that were not intending to be trolling hit harder than actual trollposts and the reactions that the zealots had to those anons that were not intending to be trolls made real trolls look at the Trench Crusade general here as a nice spot for doin' a lil ebic trollin. I'm surprised a bingo card hasn't been made yet about how the few TC fans left on this site react to anything. It might be just one persistent guy who created the stereotypical responses to any posts whether they're trolls or imagined trolls. Or a group of anons. Either response is still sad.
>tinfoil hat theory
Those posts are made by trolls that come here to larp as the zealous fanboys of Trench Crusade to attract more trolls and /trench/ is just a vortex of trolls trolling each other and larping as those they want to troll to life support this general. Could be an elaborate act from /awg/ers to keep Trench Crusade autism off their general.
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>>98869248
>I think the zealotry is sunk cost fallacy in action somewhere in the stages of grief as it seems the denial part is still there.
Its marketing. TC was pushed here by the marketing team of Reforged Studios, the international game marketing investment firm, Thomas' employers. They would have bought a mod or janitor, couldn't have cost much they already do it for free.
Anons were copping bans for green txting
>grimclusive
It was blatant enough it bothered autistic anons who will now troll forever because it was an astroturf and that in and of itself is a problem enough for them. Then the culture war stuff stacked ontop of that.
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The 40slop schizo is talking to himself again
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>>98869385
I am not familiar with Reforged Studios. I know Tuomas worked at Ubisoft from somewhere I read so maybe their shit rubbed off on him. It is morbidly fascinating that my stuff in >>98869308
has already been proven correct by the post below your post.
Maybe it is a troll larping as a zealous fanboy. It doesn't matter in the end as any conclusion is still a sad one.
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>>98869448
Thomas is co founder and
>chief creative officer
of Reforged Studios, they've been outsourcing and leveraging marketing to gaming companies for over a decade. TC was very astroturfed. That's their job.
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I like Prussians
I like Sacred Affliction
I like Black Grail
I like Navy Raiders
I like Lust Court
That is all
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as someone who's trying to get into TC, there arent that many "battle report" videos that arent +4months old. how out-dated if at all rules wise are these videos?
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>>98869308
You ironically prove that the jannies recognizing that TC threads were going to be troll farms after the Arch incident and dropping hammers down was in fact the objectively correct choice.
Just like how years ago the mods dropped hammers on Homestuck threads, furry threads, MLP threads, and anyone that posted those things was good as gone.
Now, you dont see those things being posted the way they were spammed, in some cases decades.
Especially since there are incredibly obvious, repeated troll lines that are spammed 50 times a thread. But for some reason, you think trolls being banned is... bad? Because this site is for trolling?
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>>98872152
The rules have no changed overly much.
Mostly small point costs, none of which radically change the game. The bones are still there.
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>>98867085
The trick to enjoying any nerd hobby during this tranny occupation of our hobby is to only play with friends, and gatekeep your social group from freaks.

I'm just starting to get my TC stuff built, got some sweet Abyssinan dudes ready to stab demons with swords. Game looks fun, lore is neat, trannies on the internet can't take that away from me.
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>>98872568
Sadly for me I live in bumble fuck no where so rely on things like table top sim and internet communities to play regularly so tend to be at the whim of the troon brigade seeing as how I can't find any populated non-troon communities online.
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>>98872413
>Disingenuous troll poster trying to pretend to fit in
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>>98872755
Do not attribute to malice that which can be explained as ignorance.
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>>98872811
NTA
The cool thing about contemporary social media prevalence, predation is that its often both! You don't have to limit yourself like that. It can and will be simultaneously bad faith actors trying to take your money and idiots saying crazy shit non-stop.
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>>98872755
>>98872811
>>98873306
>troll posts being deleted on sight is bad
>knowing shitposts are going to increase because of e-celeb melty is something to be ignored
>jannies NOT keeping up the banhammer has resulted in TC general being virtually unusable and kept up almost exclusively on troll posts and bait
So the current state of the thread could neither have been predicted, nor prevented!
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>>98876373
What are these flags even trying to achieve, I wonder
Is there seriously nothing going on in their lives that shitting up a thread for a tiny wargame on a dying chinese basket weaving forum is worth their time?
This has got to be some kind of mental illness
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>>98876497
fags*
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>>98876373
>>98876497
>everything I disagree with is trolling!
>noticing things is mental illness!
lol get over yourself.
If the game is going to be astroturfed on 4chan it has to accept the possibility it will get noticed and laughed at. Should have been obvious to them if they hadn't been total corporate drones.
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I finished the armoured fighters for my Swiss Guard. Way too bright and shiny for the trenches, but I still like them like this.

>>98856976
Looking good!
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>>98859306
Believing Satan is morally grey in Milton just makes you a retard. Dude's epic quest is literally to immiserate everybody because he's a sore loser.

I suppose it's possible you aren't retarded, just evil ...
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>>98848088
If you're expecting more major releases after Carcass front, I got bad news for you son.
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>>98870540
Funny how he always bragged about "TC had no traditional marketing"
Its a freudian slip in a way. He knew full well TC was astroturfed to the gills that fucking slimey cunt
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>>98877776
Anon you haven't been following the news have you? Are you perhaps a tourist?
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>>98877827
You have been psyoping this misinfo for many threads now yet you have zero proof to back up your shitposting with
How much are they paying you anon?
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>>98872413
>you think trolls being banned is... bad?
Your post proved that poster correct in his denial and downplay spiel. I'll assume you're being genuine and not a troll to make trench crusade fans look bad. Banning trolls is good. Banning innocent posters who voice genuine concerns over the state of Trench Crusade is not good. But it doesn't matter now as it has been exposed as a grift.
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>>98877563
Nothing a bucket of nuln oil/engine grease can't fix desu
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>op image
Can we play the pigfuckers yet? I could do with painting some porcs
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>>98878249
Yes, Black Grail with Antipope of Avignon as a patron. Can give a character Swine Hybrid because the antipope married and fucked a bloated and diseased pig (see: OP’s mom) to seal his pact with Beelzebub. The banner pigman and candle pigman are both on etsy, I ordered them but they won’t be here until mid November.
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>>98877563
these are great and a quick 50/50 black and umber oil over these would come up so well once you sponge it off.
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>>98870540
>it's a random picture with no actual evidence episode
Weird because Thomas isn't registered as a director for the company now or ever....
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>>98880054
Weird because he gets interviewed as being the CCO and lists it on his facebook page and the company put him forward several times.
Why are you liars like this? Do you think it helps your game?
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>>98878081
>zero proof
lmao this is desperate. The DARVO makes it very obvious, you're better off just owning up to it but that style of self promotion is too chud coded for your ideological side so it doesn't work. You always have to lie and deceive.

Here's your boss's boss's boss getting a 30 million dollar capital investment.
https://investgame.net/news/reforged-studios-mep-capital-backs-30m-platform-build-in-independent-gaming/

https://www.reforgedstudios.io/news/reforged-studios-secures-30-million-strategic-investment-from-mep-capital-to-accelerate-gaming-ip-platform-strategy
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Now that the dust has settled, why did TC fail?
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>>98877827
>no traditional marketing
What is traditional marketing?
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>>98877288
>kept up almost exclusively on troll posts and bait
>next 10 of 18 posts are troll/bait posts
Someone should do what they did to the sexy games general and spam threads until the entire topic is permabanned on /tg/.
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>98878086
>concern trolling now
>grifts now have physical books, miniatures for sale, and associated media
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>>98881574
There's someone on staff who approves of the game. So its highly unlikely.
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>>98881574
>what they did to the sexy games general and spam threads until the entire topic is permabanned on /tg/.
Lewd's been a thing for ages, what are you talking about?
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>>98880775
>>98880798
They're different companies you actual fucking retard. The logo, website and incorporation date for the holdings company should have clued you in, let alone the website that literally shows the senior leadership team. Tuomas isn't associated with them, he is however the director of Factory Fortress funnily enough. Reforged Studios is a failed corp for a failed kickstarter. Reforged Studios Limited is a videogame corporate shill company.
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>>98882016
>the company with the same name and same mission statement is totally a different company
lmao you have to translate their linkden from fucking finnish you absolute sucker.
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>>98882088
What missions statement? The other companies website no longer exists and again, he isn't on the board of directors at all, never mind as the """""founder"""" you dumb ass.
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>>98882274
They both specifically are about broad market enhancement for videogames. This isn't complicated.
Old link that's harder to find
https://www.pocketgamer.biz/how-to-get-a-job-at-netease-backed-helsinki-startup-reforged-studios/
Note they're the specifically Net-Ease funded.
>>
Oh look, same company!
Reforged Studios did acquire Headupgames and was Net-Ease funded. Funny that.
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Oh what's that?
>In the early days of the company, the CEO was Teemu Vilen.
Whole game has been astroturf side gig for the guy working at a multinational AAA video game marketing company.
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How much are they paying this faggot to psyop
Jesus Christ how many threads have been shat up
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>>98882378
>so btfo by the reveal you have to sage your own advertising general
get wrecked
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>>98882311
>>98882336
My guy I don't know what to tell you, Tuomas is not a founder or even part of Reforged Studios Limited. Reforged Studios in Helsinki went bankrupt in 2020 and ceased trading in 2021. Maybe Reforged Helsinki phoenixed into the other one but Tuomas isn't a director for it.
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>>98882352
He does look like a villain you'd order off of Temu.
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>>98880003
Huh. I imagined they would be an army variant. Very well then.
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>>98882465
Not your guy fucko.
Read what happened and figure it out, its not rocket appliances. They got bought be an even bigger company that does the same shit.
None of which would prevent the atrotrufing regardless given Tumoas' background and the he was deeply involved in AAA game marketing for over a decade.
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>>98882531
Right so... he isn't the founder or a director or affiliated then. Good to know thanks schizo. He used to work at games workshop as well oOooOo spooky.
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>>98882521
I’m huffing hopium here, but I’d be surprised if they didn’t get an army variant of their own when they get around to beefing up Black Grail’s rules like they did for Court.
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>>98882645
Cope faggot.
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>>98850181
>the butthurt samefags storming into every fucking TC related thread claiming it's astroturfed
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>>98850181
Sunk cost fags going to sunk cost.
Normal people abandon ship when a series stops having redeeming qualities or betrays their principles, sunk cost faggots don't want to admit they wasted their time and that any potential for a series is dead now.
Ironic that TC faggots suffer from the same exact sunk cost that people sticking to modern warhammer have
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Is there much info on what's going on with Spain? I had a very thin concept for a warband.

Also, are TC threads usually like this?
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>>98883945
They're right tho
Its hilarious to see the amount of cope TC fanboys have on literally any topic. They won't ever admit to anything, even something as trivial as a game being astroturfed.
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>>98884466
Not much. It's mostly theories and extrapolations, but a recurring consensus is that the iberian peninsula is pretty much pic related mixed with Bloodborne and more late-1800s guns
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Don't mind the troll, people. He's just butthurt he got banned from his LGS for not knowing how to use deodorant.
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>>98884466
Toledo got rekt by Heretic artillery, but the Spaniards held them off. Gibraltar is also a Heretic navy superfortress now. That’s about all we know.
>>98884625
>advertising is astroturfing
I wish your care home was more strict about your internet access.
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>>98884741
>Astroturfing is the deceptive practice of disguising an organized, paid, or corporate-backed campaign as a spontaneous, genuine "grassroots" movement from ordinary citizens

Thats what TC did you retard. Tuomas went on several interviews/presentations boasting about having no traditional advertising for the game, and how TC popularity was totally organic engagement from the community on social media lol. Meanwhile he was fully aware that a big driving force behind it was his own astroturf campaign.

Then again, nobody really cares cause it happens all the time, as long as the product is good who gives a shit.
The reason it gets pointed is out is because TC has scammed their customers and Tuomas have a proven trackrecord of lying.

Its just funny to see tards like you deflect on literally any crumb of critcism like your life depends on it.
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>>98884800
>like your life depends on it
>obsesses and seethes in every single TC thread because he’s assblasted by a toy soldier game
Methinks the faggot doth protest too much lmao
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>>98884800
How has TC scammed anyone? Genuine question.
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>>98884828
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4t9tJSYloo
worth a watch

TLDR:
Products are faulty, refuse to fix
Broke their kickstarter promises
DMCA abused creators making minis
Lie about everything
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>>98884818
No u
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>>98884832
>Products are faulty, refuse to fix
I got my products in a good shape and a friend who got holes in his resin mini got sent more minis
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>>98884832
I simply do not care. I’ve had no problems with their official products and there are a gorillion 3rd party model makers that make swaps for TC. I will continue to buy.
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>>98884818
>point out objective lies and deception by a company
>Wow You're so obsessed why would you seethe in every single TC thread because you got blasted by a toy soldier game LOL

Simple, I don't like liars

why do you let yourself get willingly groomed into a compliant shillcuck by the autistic lying devs of a Toy soldier company?
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>>98884851
>cry, whinge and shit yourself in literally every thread
>uhhm I just don’t like liars
Ok buddy. I get that this is your aspergic fixation, but literally no one else cares, we just like toy soldiers.
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>>98884839
>>98884841
>>98884876
None of that disproves anything in the video tard
You shills have literally no argument beyond >Don't care, doesn't affect me
Morality: 0%
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>>98884876
>I dont care
>Its just toy soldiers lmao
>runs defence in every single thread
>Cares so little he has to lie and deflect every single negative comment

You clearly care, tho nobody believes anything you shills say, and hasn't since the past year or so
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>>98885211
>muh morality pls let me concern troll you saar
No lmao
>>98885220
Ok little guy. Enjoy your final (You) from me, I have no interest in engaging with your retarded cry session any further.
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>>98885291
>I have no interesting engaging further
Don't lie Tuomas you'll be back within the hour
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>>98884832
>JAN AND ARCH LIVE RENT FREE IN TC FAGS MINDS
>posts an 8 month old Jan video
Very cool. Those points were refuted 8 months ago.
>MY FRIEND SAYS THE PRODUCTS ARE STILL BROKEN
>THEY SAID THEY'D MAKE EVERYTHING PRINTABLE (I'm making it up hehe)
>THEY DMCAed A GUY FOR LITERALLY COPYING THE OFFICIAL ART TO SELL MINIS! THAT'S TERRIBLE!
Fucked up. And Tuomas eats two scoops and owns BlackRock or some other shit.
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Golden Chalice pictures from Spiel, Essen is up on TCs site.
https://www.trenchcrusade.com/news/the-crimson-chalice-2026/
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>>98886915
Crimson Chalice*, not golden dito.
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anons
is this game just for tournament fags?
ive been getting annoyed at gw focusing on that shit only
i want to have fun and not chase some fucking meta
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>>98887245
This might be one of the least tournyfaggable games when played as intended, i.e. as a campaign. Instead it is filled with doughnut steel fags which is at least a nice change of pace. Set up a roster of your own original characters and watch them get horrifically maimed.
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>>98857364
Looking good.
After playing a gew games:
>heavy gun to the flame anointed
>offhand weapon for the priest (maybe glory staff)
>level up your characters and pray to bone daddy you roll double shoot on the priest.
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>>98884741
>>98884700
Perfecccct. I have a weird fixation on Galicia, thought their crusader origins might make for fun backstory to give to some Trench Pilgrims
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>>98886805
refuted with what? you tards have presented zero proof that he is wrong
genuinely be interested to see it but i dont for a second believe you have any facts in your favor or else it would already be out there to 'own the chuds'
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>>98887522
Thank you for your tips anon, now I just need to find the right models and get to work.
I was thinking about this guy for the priest, just using a gas mask head and a VB launcher from the WA WW1 french infantry plus the usual bones and gore to grim it up.
For the wretcheds I'd go with the same kit, zombie heads and a drill to make them undead.
I still haven't found what to use as Anointeds though.
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>>98887542
One of the future factions is slated to be Crusader knights, although thats probably a year+ away so do as you please, TP/NA would work best, i think the Sacred Affliction models kinda give me an Iberian vibe, actually its just the castigator, it's the hat
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>>98888307
That is a sick base model.
Go for it anon
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>>98888337
Galicia specifically has a lot of pilgrimmage spots, though I should check when they were built. I guess that diesn't necessarily affect whether they'd best fit TP or NA.

Spain at large had period of issues with local lords raising personal armies to settle blood feuds and the like. I think there were also specific associations of villages that agreed to protect things like nearby roads or other sites of importance, but none of that specifically speaks to NA, I don't think. I guess Yeomen would literally fit what they were called, hmmmmmmmm.... I should check Galician colors
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>>98888307
bro we got the same idea I also have the wolfenstein game somewhere for when i eventually do ghosts

>>98884466
TC hate is manufactured
Anyone bringing up "massive problems" is telling on themselves as a tourist because the usual ones they brought up were either fixed within days/weeks years ago or never a problem at all
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>>98850202
Because I'm not aware if you know this but the world of Trench Crusade is made up

>>98864695
You're retarded. Raiders, Affliction and Prussians are the most popular subfactions of their respective factions
If they released plastics of the generic ones you'd be complaining that they're betraying their promise to kickstarter backers
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>>98850202
If you don't like playing as the forces of hell you are a literal faggot. As in, a genuine faggot who probably got molested.
Satan forever son.
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>>98892626
Fuck you. I only play the good guys
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>>98891676
>Raiders, Affliction and Prussians are the most popular subfactions
No they aren't, what proof can you show for this?
>If they released plastics of the generic ones you'd be complaining that they're betraying their kickstarter backers
That doesn't make sense? They can still release carcass front.
Happy we're arguing autistically about the game and not manufactured outrage tho.
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>>98891659
>Anyone bringing up "massive problems" is telling on themselves as a tourist because the usual ones they brought up were either fixed within days/weeks years ago or never a problem at all

Show proof nigger
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>>98891659
>bro we got the same idea I also have the wolfenstein game somewhere for when i eventually do ghosts
You gave me an idea anon, thank you. <3 I don't have that board game, but I can use the power armors from warlord as the anointeds, they'd fit right in wolfenstein, I just need to ghost them up a little.
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>>98893919
> No they aren't, what proof can you show for this?

Companion anon here ( not to get involved in arguments but im the only person who actually has data) my player data does show prussians, raiders, and affliction are the most popular variants for their factions - but they are all second to the 'base' faction.
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>>98896463
That's because of carcass front though (and the fact that the Prussians were the first plastic) so not a fair comparison. No one was talking about them before they were plastic, 100% with raiders and affliction.
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>>98892626
Who won the carcass front bitch
>>98896493
I thought prussians were pretty popular before plastics, didnt they used to be the strongest NA variant?
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>>98894712
You made the assertion, you idiot cocksucker. The burden of proof that the supposed issues you flapped your faggot mouth about are ongoing is on you.
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>>98898008
I'd concede with Prussians that they maybe were, but raiders and afflicted definitely weren't.
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>>98898163
>TC critics: Well documented evidence of devs wrongdoings
>TC fanboys: NOoooOOO THE DEVS SAID THEY FIXED IT!!!!!!!

I know who I'll believe
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>>98899777
The density of your skull is astounding. Were you dropped on your head a lot as an infant?
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>>98899853
His brothers in Whateverthefuckistan used to tombstone piledrive him trough the kitchen table, I imagine.
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>>98899321
oh absolutely, i'm like 100% sure that KoA and Methodius were more popular before the carcass front
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>>98884800
>advertising
proof?
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Let’s get back on topic here lads.
Can you recommend good places to get miniatures of those big fat gross ugly black women with smug expressions to use in my armies? I’m putting them in prominent positions within each of my factions because in my head canon TC is a meritocracy and, quite frankly, big fat gross ugly black women deserve it for their real world contributions to civilization, technology, philosophy, medicine, science, public safety, law, and overall quality of life for all humans on planet earth.
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>>98900512
Any mini can be a black woman, stop assuming their identity you bigot.
Yeah, even the scenery.
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Every time this faggot gets called out he switched to talking about blacks
Must be a redditor
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I don't know if someone may be interested, butt TTcombat has put this guy in preorder, it kinda looks a good proxy for a communicant.
https://ttcombat.com/collections/new-tabletop-games/products/baphrael-the-bell-crowned-vatican-pre-order
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>>98867244
Trench crusade is like Concord in slow motion. They shit on gamers, censor political discourse for people they disagree with, and release a flawed product. Watching them go all "bioware" has been fun.
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>>98901087
TC can't bioware because they have dimensioned their expectations after their likely playerbase. They were never going to kill GW and they know that. Anyone who claimed they would was either a retard, a liar or both.
Bioware died because they released extremely niche slop expecting it to have a mass market appeal greater than even the best games they had ever released.
TC knows their product will ultimately appeal to a handfull unwashed nerds and are producing product based on those numbers. Sure, the TC unwashed nerds are more likely to wear a dress and call themselves Lilith but as long as the expectations are realistic that shit doesn't matter.
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>>98899777
>"I have well documented evidence"
>*looks at evidence*
>"my buddy keith said that..."

>>98900296
KoA and methodius were never that popular. Raiders and Affliction were considered the strongest and most played subfactions since 1.0. The one that maaaaybe was more popular was ghosts
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>>98901548
Fucking ghosts? Bullshit, there's like zero way the dead bitches were more popular than the golden cunts
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>>98881580 see >>98869308
>The "zealots" for lack of a better term see trolls and their enemies in every post
To be fair it is
>grifts now have physical books, miniatures for sale, and associated media
Warhammer has those things and still is a grift with their models being laughably overpriced, books, and associated media. Tuomas presented Trench Crusade as a product that wasn't going to resemble Games Workshop in their sneaky ways and they got a big kickstarter funding from that good faith built up and now they've gone and done the sneaky shit GW does all the time.
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>>98901548
Putting your head in the sand won't make TC problems dissapear Tuomas
We know why you respond this way its because the evidence is so heavily stacked against you there is no point beginning to refute it anymore.
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>>98904256
>the evidence is HEAVILY STACKED!
>uh umm no I won’t actually present said evidence…
Lmao kys
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>>98901087
>They shit on gamers, censor political discourse for people they disagree with
They simply didn't create their own discord, they just used reddit community discord for TC, which is ofc moderated by woke retards. They already removed discord links from their webpage. I can't say i don't understand it tho, since you don't have to pay anything to these retards. But ofc if you want a professional, moderated community you have to spend some money, no intelligent, sane person would do that shit for free. Game itself isn't bad, i'm currently playing a campaign with 7 of my friends (i play Black Grail) and it's good enough. I didn't buy any of their products tho, and from what i understand they fucked over a lot of their kickstarter supporters
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>One retard starts obsessing over shitting up the TC thread a year ago
>People move elsewhere to talk about the game
>Thread slows down
>Retard thinks the game is dead because people avoid him
>Still obsessively refreshes the thread every 5 minutes
>Replies to himself every other post

At this point I've moved my TC discussions elsewhere and just come here to see this parasocial schizo have meltdowns
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>>98904424
>links to public video that lays out all the evidence in almost hourlong essay with timestamps for each individual topic
>YOU"VE GOT NOTHINGGGGGGGG CHUDD I"M JUST GOING TO PRETEND IT DOESNT EXIST

Lol this is why people continue to laugh at you tards
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>>98907177
>p-please… please watch my seething vlog :(
No and kys
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>>98907407
Paypig really doesn't have much more to say.
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>>98907829
>He's still referencing the janovich video and replying to himself
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>>98907407
>Evidence of TC wrongdoings doesn't exist, and if it does exist I'm going to pretend it doesn't exist anyway

Absolute state of TC fandom
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>>98908044
>Literal No U
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>>98908095
>>98908053
The double posts are real
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>>98905570
>At this point I've moved my TC discussions elsewhere and just come here to see this parasocial schizo have meltdowns
I've been trying to find anywhere that isn't unbearably pozzed (discord, reddit) and isn't here obviously. But I can't ask here because then we risk the faggot following along and shitting up somewhere else.
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>>98911200
facebook is unironically the best place right now
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>>98911200
>>98911994
I second Facebook
I'll add Instagram and any local group to your area, wherever that is
Use the "find a local trench" tab on the discord (I promise they won't be as gay as discord)
There's no shame in sharing because mods there actually will ban the retard
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>>98911200
>>98911994
>>98912191

Enjoy your safespace
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>>98912477
>Dude really thinks it's a win that he's so retarded people have to go on Facebook just to avoid him
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>>98913169
>dude really thinks its a win to stick his head in the sand and pretend the devs aren't scamming immoral corpo fucks that broke every promise they ever made
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>>98911994
Lmao

The cope is real
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>>98913595
Thomas must've fucked your wife with how much time you spend thinking about him
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>>98912477
I will? Why the fuck would I want to discuss a hobby with someone interjecting every 5 minutes to shit it up with their retarded conspiracy theories. In any non-online arena you'd just be called an annoying faggot and asked to leave, we only have to suffer you here because of the quirks of 4chans system. While I'm here Tuomasfag, why doesn't he use his super powerful shilling company to promote his other game En Garde like he does TC?

>>98911994
>>98912191
There's apparently a TC night being planned at my LGS soon so maybe I'll try and get something going there.
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Can anyone help me? I'm in a campaign, I rolled on the Rare table and I got
>Book of Golems
>You find a Rabbinic manual on creating Golems. Studying it allows you to create a Golem. Add Takwin Homunculus from The House of Wisdom Variant Warband in the Iron Sultanate Faction List to your Warband. It has the Human Hands Alchemical Formula, plus Alchemical Formulas worth a total of up to 50 for free (you do not have to pay for the Formulas that you choose). The Golem has the Golem
Keyword, and replaces the Sultanate
Keyword with your Faction's Keyword. You can purchase Battlekit for it in the Quartermaster Step, using your own Armoury Tables instead of the ones in the Iron Sultanate Faction List. The model is treated as an Ally that can never be Promoted or receive additional Alchemical Formulas.

Does it mean I can add just one Golem or that they can be recruited normally from then on?

The Sultanate ones can't have armour, even with human hands, but this states that they can choose Battlekit from their new faction, not just weapons and a shield, so, can it be armoured?

If given Seal of Solomon, from which warbands battlekit list does it select its equipment from, Sultanate's or the faction's? Is Seal of Solomon even necessary, since it lacks the Sultanate's limit to battlekit?

Am I right in understanding that it can have up to 60 ducats in formulas (50 I can choose for free + 10 for human hands)?

If given an additional arm, can it hold a held item like an instrument and a 2 handed weapon?
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>>98915466
>why doesn't he use his super powerful shilling company to promote his other game En Garde like he does TC?
Except, he did? its just that his reputation was already ruined and En Garde was an even more obvious cashgrab than TC, blatantly trying to piggybag Blanche's reputation. Tuomas just wasn't able to fool as many people this time. Im surprised it even managed to raise as much as it did frankly.

Also the game just looks generally unappealing since Blanche artistic capabilities were well past his prime (Not a critique of him, but just didn't know when to stop kinda thing)

Maybe youd be interested in seeing that En Garde is starting to shape up like a similar shitshow as TC did with uncommunicated delays, but I doubt they are allowed to discuss objective reality in your facebook safespace.

>>98914300
Lets be real that manlet doesn't fuck anyone except other goblins.
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>>98916140
Just to be clear: I'm playing Knights of Avarice, so if it is free, I would like to outfit it like this, is it legal?

Golem
Formulas: Human Hands, Hawk Eyes, Inhuman Strength, Seal of Solomon, Additional Arm
Battlekit: Anti-Materiel Rifle, Coin Hammer, Tarnished Armour, Trench Shield, Combat Helmet, Gas Mask, Infernal Brand, Medi-kit (from House of Wisdom via Seal), Shovel
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>>98847647
Ok, Saar.
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>>98916151
>the game just looks generally unappealing due to the artist, not the gameplay
Peak nogames babble.
Don't you have a DnD thread to shitpost in?
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>>98915466
>quirks of 4chans system
You mean the owner being unwilling to break the backs of the bots and shitposters?
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>>98915466
Yeah man, you should go! You'll have a blast
>>98916140
You can purchase one golem for free +give it golem upgrades up to the point value specified in the text box
You can give it any of your equipment that it is allowed to take by its own rules and the rules of the equipment
Ex: if it says no armor, then no armor
If the equipment says elite only, then it can't have it
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98903541
>Warhammer has those things and still is a grift
This guy is actually just spitting out words; I've seen the same kind of actions from the worst blue hairs on tumblr.
I am beginning to agree it is actually a mental illness induced thing.
Or is a bot/janny.
Shitposts and trolls in any way possible even when it doesn't make sense, and is never banned or has posts deleted.
Meanwhile, you could make a post right now saying white men are the majority of 'soft target' mass shooters, and you will get a 3 day ban.
This site is cooked, as the kids say.
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>>98916498
>Ex: if it says no armor, then no armor
So, instead of the previous loadout, this would be legal for Mammon's Chosen, right?

Golem
Formulas: Human Hands, Hawk Eyes, Inhuman Strength, Seal of Solomon, Terrifying Appearance
Battlekit: Siege Jezzail (via Corrupt Merchants), Sacrifical Blade + Trench Shield (Knights Battlekit), Alchemical Ammunition, Medi-Kit, Combat Helmet, Shovel (all these from Seal of Solomon)
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>>98916549
Ok I've read the rules
Seal of Solomon lets it have armor
Just replace "house of wisdom armory" in the ruling with "knights of avarice armory"
Elite restrictions still apply
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>>98916486
Good job picking the least relevant thing out of the comment so you can purposefully deflect and cope about Tuomas moving onto his next scam
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>>98916834
My brother in Christ you admitted last thread that you're an avid Slop&D 5.5 fan
No one is ever going to take you seriously again
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>>98916582
>Seal of Solomon lets it have armor
I genuinely thought it would let use only the Equipment part of the Battlekit, not armor.
>This Takwin Homunculus can have Equipment from the Warband's Armoury
So, basically, fresh it can only use weapons from the faction's Armoury (in my case, Knights of Avarice), with Seal it can take armour and equipment too as long as it is from the faction's armoury and not from Sultanate?
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>>98917504
Went through the rules again
You're right, it's equipment only for the seal
You get human hands for free
Then, it says you CAN purchase kit from your list rather than the house of wisdom
I interpret this as you can pick from your or the Sultanate list at creation but only your list afterwards
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Just give me a tc discord tts community that isn't trooned out, I just want to grill for God's sake.
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this month's heroes infinite release has some amazing models to use for trench crusade. Id use these as heretics but i already got 2 warbands that... i should have painted months ago...
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We're getting standalone campaign for a Hollows ttrpg. I hope this is preparation for proper ttrpg they make in the future.
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>>98917538
I've asked the other players in the campaign, they let me ignore the discovery and simply use the result for loot, too much of a hassle otherwise. Shame, it sounded cool having a pet golem but it's written too vaguely and I can't make heads or tails about it.



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