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>"B-brother please, awoo with m-ACK!"
>>98857072>TQAh, yes! My most recent game! It was... it was, uhhh... uhhhhhhhh
>>98857072>TQive played tree games over the weekend, both as sisters of battle since im still learning the army...the first game was vs a sweaty tourneyfag running an optimized ork list. (very nice person outside of game) The game didn't last very long. they popped turn 1 waaagh, got max distance on all the advance and charges and that was gg. I learned that as sisters vs orks keep alot of units in reserve and hide behind terrain as much as possible. The one highlight of the game was my repentia brick dropping ghaz to 1 wound then a vehicle explosion did the final point which felt nice 1/3
Do solo games count?
>>98857109>does jerking off mean I'm not a virgin anymore?
Planning to mix CK with someone else, do I need codexes for each?
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98857124I still don't get this meme or the meme of the guy replying to you with some weird wojak
How can I play Guard but in a cool, tank-focused way?
>>98857124
>>98857103my second game was vs a based csm wordbearer lad. Learning from my last game I stayed much further back and let his units rush up the board into my overlapping tank fire to soften them up for my infantry. I mainly fought over the two nml objectives and let him have the middle objective since I did not want to fight a huge chosen brick backed up by the warp talons. The best turn for me was turn 3 where my Warsuits led by Morvenn managed to take out a maulerfiend and a daemon prince of slaanesh. i had a ton of fun in this game since it was mostly infantry fighting.2/3
>>98857134The only thing to get with his meme is the use of the word chaos in two pieces of media. It's the same thing as someone Jack posting. The wojak is just a sharty poster who got lost and has become trapped here
>>98857142the last game was vs a dark angels guy that really liked fluff and didn't run a primarch. he was wrecking my units when we ran out of time and I fully believe he would have won had we managed to go all 5 turns. He also had way more painted models than me which I love
>>98857140Make a custom armored regiment and field a lot of tanks.
I can’t believe I actually want a Christmas Battleforce for once. I just need them to release the price to kill the urge lmao.
>>98857079I don't remember seeing a battleforce this shit before lol
>>98857079That's literally the new custodes combat patrol except 1 basic dude becomes a character model from 2015.
>>98857178In concept, a battleforce with Dante, sang guard, a chaplain, death company and a furioso dread would be a pretty good BA box. It's just that the primaris sculpts are all really bad.
>>98857072>TQUnique orders for each detachment. Also pure lasgun spam detachment to justify running 60 cadians
How do I use this shit?
>>98857247Slather unto the base, wait until it cures.Done.
>>98857157The summer battleforces are on the online store for $265 USD after the price increase. Probably going to be that, slight chance a little more.
>>98857040Had a cool idea for a Chaos Knight House but then I realize it's just the same as House Herpetrax... something about non/pre imperial chaos societies intrigues me
>>98857193Do you think it's curved by the camera lens or did they actually fuck up the sculpt
>>98857268If I recall right, some of the promo spear models have it too.
>>98857268Reminder that the studio painted examples for promos/packaging have been found to be 3D printed prototypes
>>98857268GW has never fucked anything.
>>98857140https://listhammer.info/list/27d7eafe20d2a54e6d
>>98857134It's ritualposting cancer.
>>98857247le helpful frog
>>98857300Dubs of trvth
My paints feel so flat and dull, how can I make that shiny effect contrast paint has, but on my model all the time?
>>98857339Gloss varnish.
Help me sell this plasma effect better
>>98857072>What are you hoping your codex changes about your army?Eldar, like other similiar armies, are kinda fucked by the general rules and how the scoring works. Hopefully the next set of cards will adress that and make denial a somewhat relevant strategy again.In terms of army itself, individual units need to be more killy. Aspect warriors should hit on 2s and get like +2s to their weapons across the board, atm other than dragons and banshees they shoot water guns.Also, I hope harlequins get the custodes treatment and become significantly more elite rather than just another flavor of an aspect warrior.
>>98857349Say it uses AI.
>>98857349Are the coils all one color? It appears that way if it isn't, which might be your problem. Consider either using dark orange or white.
>>98857386Thanks I'll give it a shot
Do I want new ork box my fellow orks?I only got the launch box so far
>>98857079>Ugly sang guard models>Chaplain with wrong base sizes and illegal loadout which is monopose so it isn't even easy to convert>Jump Pack infantry sold as "Death Company with Jump Packs" when there's actually nothing uniquely DC about them except the additional upgrade sprue>Poor value for money>Primaris dreadnoughts are worse than boxnoughtsThe only thing not wrong with this box is Donte. The level of fuckup is impressive
>>98857413add to that the discount is probably going to be abysmal
>>98857079Even as a Bangles hater I feel bad. I still think old sang guard are shit sculpts. I just didn't expect them to be even worse.
>>98857349thinned white ink in the recesses
>>98857413It's gotta be the worst box set they've put out since that one Eldar vs Dark Eldar box they put out in like 9th edition with one new sculpt in the entire box.
>>98857411>only 10 Boyz
>>98857449Oh yeah that one was legendarily bad for a number of reasons. Like the more you look at it the worse it gets. And this was the first box they made the big price hike on battle boxes for. Although technically it had two new sculpts as the incubi were the first time they were in plastic instead of resin alongside the new drizzar.
Is the Ork Battleforce a good buy if I started Orks with starter set lineup + individual buys, have:>40 boyz>3 warbikes>warboss>weirdboy>trukk>tankbustas
>>98857454I fucking love this box so muchI got cheap squighog because some knife ears faggots are buying ton of them
>>98857455Not really, no.
>>98857455for you unironically nofor armageddon cuties? maybecause they can easily slide into dreadmob if they dont mind the daff and meganobz aging kits personally I dont think deff dread is that bad, it kinda hold up unlike meganobz it suck cause meganobz is good gameplaywise they just need maybe extra killa klans or another dakkarig like what are you going to do with 50 boyz?
>>98857463oh wait thats not exodite boxsorry i'm blind
>>98857471>like what are you going to do with 50 boyz?Buy 10 more boyz.
>>98857140I wish infantry guard wasn’t dogshit to play
post WIPs/models
>>98857454In retrospect I actually love this box
>>98857471>like what are you going to do with 50 boyzIf he's not playing sweaty competitive leagues, he can have a green tide list with 50-60 boys depending on how he wants to spread them out. Put one 20 boyz with warboss plus some support char into a battlewagon. Meganobz are generally good elite unit. Dread is only questionable unitHe can also use boyz to kitbash breaka boyz from Wrecka sprue.
GOD DAMN IT I STILL HAVEN'T GOT A FACTION REEEEEE
>>98857560Make Orks riding Nids.
>paint Death Guard>get illludonarrative kino
>>98857508Nice mech-lad. I finished my first batch of Armageddon Orks, and made a small matching gaming surface for them out of a pin board. Starting on more ladz this morning
>>98857560Fuck it, play traitor guard.
>>98857580>traitor guardDoes this legit exist?
got a 1000pt 4th edition game later(you) should stop plsying current edition and have some fun
>>98857583It's a bit jank, but CSM has an honestly kinda stupid amount of just regular jackoffs in their model range, including traitor guardsmen and commissars with an ogryn bodyguard. The big thing they're missing compared to regular guard is the tanks, but daemon engines make up for it imo.
im so fucking sick of custardI rather play against muhreen than these gold fuckers
>>98857575The paint job looks great, but man I still really dislike the 11e ork sculpt style.
>>98857072>TQtried out custard bike spam vs Tau, went well but I had to play cagier than I'd have liked since ever unit in his army was purpose built to kill my custodesEnded up winning 98-85
Worth it?
>>98857508Chipped away at the Ork getting started box for 2 months. Did em as Goffs.These were my first ever TT minis painted.1/2
>>98857588Minor spelling mistake detectedGlory to 11th edition
>>98857508>>988576172/2
>>98857247You need prime the base first, and this will sound silly. But put some shade or wash paint on the primed base as well. it will be sooooooooooooo much less fragile if it has paint to stick to and not just primer. Then once you have slathered, and it dries, gently apply either another wash or shade, or if you dont want to add anymore color, do a varnish. If dont do this it will crumble off the model promptly.
>>98857588>implying I started playing
>>98857614If you dont have them absolutely. They are all your best units as SW.
Do you hate Guard and/or Guard Players?
>>98857631depends on the guard fan
>>98857631
>>98857630I have the army set and the old combat patrol besides firstborn.
>>98857653nigga you in the wrong neighborhood
>>98857655That's what I get for having all my /tg/ tabs together
>>98857653Depends on the format but creatureless control has existed since the beginning of magic
>>98857631I have several guard friends and I don't hate the players themselves. I even think they have lots of cool models and neat theming across their many regiments. That said, I kind of hate the army on the tabletop. They're such a slog to watch other people play through and move around and try to remember all their rules and what is buffing what each turn and their shooting just takes forever and flip flops between doing nothing and suddenly clearing half your board so they have to take every single chance.
>>98857661The reason I find the guard annoying is they have like the second biggest collection of models and sheets, and have been bad for like 4 months and act like GW fucking hates them, when other factions like DE, Demons, and GSC exist. Only CSM, as a group competes for GW's second favorite faction spot with the Guard.
>>98857124>Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98857631I like hoard guard player who set up heavy gun nest and stuffs I hate the people who bring solar and 6 tanks, they are just knight army at that point Or maybe because it's the only army I can't stream roll so I hate playing against
>>98857671You already posted this
>>98857624>>98857617>>98857575ECKS DEE
I think guard need a rework personallyscrap regimented units, just have it be an "infantry squad" etc as beforeand make orders the cherry on top, not the main faction ability, or at least make orders more engaging than "I do order"i'd make it so that officerd share their leadership to units in range, and vox casters extend itthen the officers can issue orders to any number of units in that range and take a LD test to do so, with a -1 to the test for every unit beyond the first so it gets harder
>>98857588every thread with this bullshit, we already have enough ritual posting nonsense we dont need fakegrog spam too
>>98857508just started working on yet another 10 neophytes, fuck bros this is draining. i thought hobbies were meant to be FUN, well im NOT HAVING FUN REEEEEE
>>98857682this thread is 90% shitposting and ritualposts anyway, not like one more retard changes anything
i for one sit eagerly awaiting the coming lucasarts games workshop disney factory fortress warlord revel bandai superconglomerate
>>98857682>fake grogI had a game on sunday, i'll post a pic from my game later provided it happens
>>98857669Maybe I just play with Guard players who are way less whiny than average. Then again, one of them is a Krieg guy and one is a Cadians and Scions guy and both of them have been overjoyed with current Guard releases. I'm sure if you hang out with Steel Legion or Catachan or Valhallan fans then they probably are a lot more disgruntled about the state of the faction.
>>98857693>unpainted and unbasedno please spare me with the pictures im fine thanks
>>98857669>act like GW fucking hates them, when other factions like DE, Demons, and GSC exist.No one ever remembers the poor Grey Knights...
>>98857698oh no i'm playing someone else later, there will be painted terrain, no idea if his orks are painted (I think they are)
>>98857631only played against 2 guard players so far and they were great, i got shit on both times but they were lovely people to vs. havent seen an obnoxious one yet apart from people posting online but we dont have a resident guardfag who tends to swap to a different army entirely depending on the meta
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98857681why is it guard one of those armies that people think you have to give stupid rules to to make the army work. like marines can get advance and charge or assault weapons (the doctrine thing) on demand without jumping through hoops and multiple ways to turn it on again.this goof wants to tie orders to leadership tests. one of my last guard lists had over 20 orders to issue. so that's over 20 Ld tests to take slowing the game considerably and with the -1 I'll probably lose more than half of them. Just terrible. This is not fun game design.
>>98857677but that wasnt me, ratfag
>>98857708i am a 3e kiddie and never found deldar to be terribly cool please sell them to me lest i come to look down on your pleading on their behalf
Here's a fun general question: What army needs a total rules rework the most?Either for fluff or mechanical or other meta reasons like price points.
>>98857715space marines lole
>>98857712It was though, you just wanted to add your inane text to it.
>>98857715GSC at this point probably needs an entire rework. point decreases arent going to do shit
>>98857719XD HE MADE A FUNNY :DD XDDD
>>98857710because its more thematic, orders should be more engaging than "I do thing"if anything i'd get rid of faction abilities almost entirely, guard can have custom reigments back
>>98857721Hasn't their army rule been totally rewritten more times than any other Army? I think they've had more patches than admech at this point
>>98857720different filenames you utter retard, also i was at work when that other anon posted it. gee i cant wait to see all of your photos when you go on holiday with your shitty painted models, lemme guess bali again?
>>98857722not actually joking thoughbeit lole >///w///<
>GW commissions someone with an actual digital artstyle to do some art cards and they make the best official art in a decade>immediately go back to whipping Dainton to make him produce ten pieces an hour that all look like shit
>>98857715>Bump Space marine points up>Bump Sororitas points up (make them stronker to compensate as they should not be a hoard army)>Imperial agents; lol lmao>Give back Votann their OP shit from their release>Put the Deldar rework guy out of his misery and throw him a KT or two
>>98857725like several times in 10th, and it will probably get rewritten when the codex comes out
>>98857715SoB should bring back acts of faith instead of miracle dicemiracle dice are lame as shit thematically and were just eldar fate dice>roll a 1 or a 2 and never use it>only use your 5s and 6s for melta weapon damageBORING
>>98857715Sisters.>fundamentally not designed to fulfil the basic army fantasy of nuns with guns and flamer throwers purging heretics>entire army wrapped up in and dependent on special characters>army was basically rebooted from the ground up with 8th ed in mind with supporting aura character models as force multipliers which are now goneThey're just a mess.
>>98857731will sob to go T4 this edition? also that deldar ritual poster will keep going regardless if theres an actual refresh or not. at least the i like orks poster gave up
>>98857726I ain't ratfag just calling out you freaks and of course you have a schizoid meltdown for everyone to see.
>>98857742>freaksoh i just WONDER whos behind this post?
>>98857731>>Give back Votann their OP shit from their releaseBut they aren't Ynnari or other armies allowed to have broken things thus the fans will complain.
>>98857739Who knows with GW, we could get S5 bolters which would be funny on a T3 unit but its a dream for it to happen
>>98857746>get called out for schzoidism>double and triple down on itGrim. Get back on your meds. And I don't mean the estrogen
>>98857739Why would sisters go to T4?
>>98857754>get called a schizo from someone who thinks 2 different people are the same posteralso defending ritual posters is unforgivable
>>98857757because marines went to T5
>>98857760So what? Sisters are baseline humans. Marines didn't just go up to T5 because of power armour.
>>98857072>TQmy most recent game ? shit, must've been two month ago. i think it was my salamanders vs blood angels>other TQi pray every night that some 30k mechanicum datasheets come to 40k
>>98857763im happy to be proven wrong, guess we have to wait for the codex to come out
>>98857072>TQi dont really care anymore as GSC are so JUSTed
played a game today, tau vs blood angelsi lost
>>98857769ausfag
SoS didn't go up to T4 so there's very little chance SoB get that. Things I predict for the codex though:>S5 Bolters>Vahl gets lone op and can no longer lead Warsuits, goes up to like 350pts with statline/ability changes to reflect that>Warsuits get a buff so they are actually good on their own>New fast attack (people say horses but it'll be something else)>Repentia unit with pointy meltacharge sticks
>>98857757Because the entire point of spreading the stats out is to better represent different unit types across the scale.
>>98857769nice minis
if I kitbash a boyz into something like thiswhat would he be able to proxy as?
>>98857776They did it to make marines feel better as stated in their warham community articles. SoB were never mentioned once. Imperial Guard didn't get improved boltguns in line with the new marines stuff. I guess in the end it could happen but it wasn't stated in their initial statements. This is the same as CSM players thinking they are going to lose rhinos and predators even though GW hasn't said anything about that.
>>98857763>Marines didn't just go up to T5 because of power armour.The same Marine might wake up one morning and put on Phobos (T4), Tacticus (T5) or Gravis (T6) armour, without the underlying man changing in the least.
In a S5 world T3 vs T4 doesn't really matter. Sisters players would probably complain about having to pay for a meaningless upgrade if it did happen.Armies in general do need to be 20% smaller though. Game is becoming unmanageable on the non-elite side.
>>98857757Because GW doesn't know how to make a T3 Army into anything but a horde at this point
>>98857677that’s just my le cultist XD
>>98857796Meant to say not JUST because of power armour. A marine isn't just a regular human in armour he's also got that whole genetic aryan demigod thing going for them.
If you could pick any single box product GW has ever released for 40k and bring it to the table and have to fight with only the models contained in that box under current 11th edition rules, what would be the most powerful box in the game? (for one faction, no battle box team ups)
>>98857814this is almost 2000 points now
>>98857814IIRC you could literally buy an entire 1000 marine chapter as a bundle box back in the day, so them.
>>98857763>Marines didn't just go up to T5 because of power armour.But they do. It's not really consistent. Sisters or eldar wear special armor but are T3 like a guardsmen, because they're roughly only as tough as normal humans.But marines are between T4, T5 and T6 depending on what kind of armor they wear even though the guys wearing the armor all have the same biology. Same with custodes, terminator guys have extra T.
How is it that all of the "Spanish Airbrushcore and black latex glovesloppa" algorith painters use such big brushes on their miniatures in the early stages? I swear it's like ragebait or something
>>98857775If your bolter didn't get an update like CSM did, fat chance you will get it in your codex.
>>98857824fuck off retard
>>98857814Trajan 2655 Squads of 3 Guards - 240 x 5 = 12003 Vertus - 3303 Allarus - 270This box is over 2K in current points, and you can turn some guys into captains.
>>98857824Computer, translate this gibberish
I keep seeing posts saying that guard is really weak and needs to get major buffs since they keep losing in tournaments. Is this actually the case or are most guard players just dogshit?
>>98857837Anon lacks brush control and is confused how someone with finer motor control can paint smaller mini's with a larger brush
>>98857814>>98857819Jetbikes - 870 ptsWardens - 780 ptsTerminators - 450ptsThat's a 2100 point box if you build a shield captain for each unit.
>>98857824I wonder if you're one of those retards that will basecoat an entire mini using a 0 or 00
>>98857845yeah I didn't factor in every possible captain lol
>>98857821Yeah but you can't legally field more than three copies of the same unit and a lot of those units are legends now. So most of that set would go to waste.
>>98857715sisters. they feel like shit to play and their army rule fucking sucks ass mechanically and thematically. I wouldnt mind them dying to absolutely everything if they did a lot of damage consistently, but with their weapon S being so low across the board realistically they are only ever wounding on 5s and 6s for only a single point of damage. I want miracle dice to be removed entirely and the rest of the army to be given good stats to compensate for not having access to them.
>>98857715admechthey need to be a lot more elite with higher damage
>>98857759>>98857804What stage of alogging is this?On a scale of Eisenhorn xenos to hereticus, where are we?
>>98857677No he didn't, it was me.
t'au'va upon ye
>>98857823Toughness differences are what they have to use when there's nowhere left to go with things that actually matter (saves, wounds). A sister of battle is more durable than a grunt because she has a 3+ normal save rather than a 5+, and less durable than a marine because of the single wound. The toughness stat is just for flavour and internal balance/variety in marines. It doesn't matter much and not having to pay for T5 is one of the reasons phobos marines are now meta picks over tacticus (without invulnerable saves).
>>98857863>he thinks that’s alogginglooks like someone discovered a new word!
>>98857715Imperial Agents is the obvious answer because they don't have an army rule but they're basically abandoned at this point anyway. Second worst is probably Chaos Knights but I also hate that the faction even exists. So I guess legitimately the worst one might be Guard? They just kind of... Don't work properly right now with how the rules of the current edition want tables to be set up and missions to play out.Honorable mention to Drukhari and Sisters for having a lot of the same problems as guard but not quite as bad since their special rules are slightly less convoluted and still work through Battleshock.
>>98857842Both can be true, but most space marine players are dogshit too and held up by their faction having a significantly higher skill floor.
I need to paint an entire 6x4 realm of battle boarduhhh tips?
Is this worth it as a taster for Nids?
>>98857897None of those paints taste very good even if you are a nid.
Flashgitz Yellow is quite the dish
>>98857823There's plenty of space now to make some currently T3 units T4, but fundamentally I don't think that changes anything about how lethal the game is right now or how armies play on the TT. Lore wise guard should have like 400 infantry bodies on the table plus 8 tanks, but you can't really do that, so how do you make a brick of 20 guardsmen feel like 100? >>98857879T4 makes a legitimate difference with all the high S weapons floating around right now. Sisters being wounded on 3s vs 2s for S6-7 weapons is a big deal. Also Phobos are good because despite T4 they actually have really good other stats making them a good choice over regular intercessors
>>98857103>turn 1 waaaghI thought you could only waagh turn 2 onwards?
>>98857897Fuck no. You can't even use those models if you ended up liking them either because everything is fixed box-locked squad sizes now.
>>98857894use big brush
>>98857879The reason phobos are meta right now is that they got globally +2 to move but didn't go up in points AT ALL to compensate for that, they're just giga efficient. Hacks at GW probably didn't even realize what they did.
>>98857934one big brushone thick layer
Opinion on these? I'm torn between using a unit of them or venatari.
>>98857936Everyone was too busy being distracted by T5 and S5 when really Mv8 is the most insane buff they got.
>>98857897just get some dudes secondhand. there’s still plenty good deals after leviathan + combat patrol magazine.
>>98857942Depends on the meta. These are Knight hunters.
>>98857942Too expensive right now/10.
Space Wolves or Dark Angels - which chapter is cooler?
Are Space Marine supplement armies still getting their own Codexes and release waves this edition? I'm seeing conflicting information about this online.
>>98857955
>>98857897you can get a full squad of those monopose gaunts for £10 and those same colours in larger bottles with better coverage for the same price from AKin other words, no GW has not sold anything that's a good deal for a long long long time
>>98857955A somewhat gay chapter vs the gayest chapter
>>98857943Why is 8" move a big deal when marines had a bunch of 10-12" infantry options already? 8" movement on reivers is nice and all but I'm still taking jump intercessors instead to do a better job.eliminators are the best phobos unit and they never want to move more than 2.999"
>>98857956It's Space Marines, don't doubt that there would be at least another wave of release for them.
>>98857952>S8>knight hunters
>>98857976meant for >>98857949
>>98857956They haven't confirmed anything about future codexes yet. There's no reason to think they won't, but the tight three year edition cycle can lead to armies missing out or getting folded in together temporarily.
>>98857922You can waagh at the start of any phase, but most people opt for a later turn when they're in fighting range to make the most of it.
>>98857976I actually don't know anything about them.I had a 50/50 chance of being right or wrong.Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
>>98857967The real reason it's crazy is that they didn't get a points increase to compensate, but movement is still useful on a unit that stands stationary three out of five turns in the game because of the potential it adds to them. Especially in an army with easy access to advance, fallback, shoot, and charge shenanigans.Every inch you add to a unit increases its threat range linearly but increases its threat area exponentially. Each additional inch of move speed is more impactful than the one before it. At 8 in of move speed a unit can reasonably run from cover to cover without being exposed anymore. A deep strike in your back line can reasonably be pivoted back to and charged into to close up a flank. You can run into cover and make it up to the second floor for plunging fire instead of having to sit on the floor. You can stage 2 in further away where you are safe and not give up the option to threaten someone if they advance. If you have to fall back, you can actually fall back into a safe position instead of still being left in the open. If they are one of your last units standing in round five, they have a reasonable chance to get where you need to get to secure those last few points you need to cinch the game. It just adds a whole suite of additional options to a unit that was already good so that even if you won't take the most games, when they do come up, you now can take them.
>>98857988Well they did go up in points. Reivers and Eliminators from 75 to 85. Incursors 85 to 90. Infiltrators went down without the op deep strike denial bubble. A lot of that is justified by the power increases while some abilities got slightly worse (no "any phase" on the haywire mine, reivers OC-1 aura is by model not whole units), but they did go up in points.AP-1 on bolt carbine shooting is the strongest buff phobos got.
Redpill me on playing GSC against marines in 11th (CSM), what's the correct play? It seems the recent buffs really made things harder for them
>>98857967Reivers are cheaper than JPI's, move further on T1 with scout and have better rule.Their job isn't to do big damage, it's to be better than the opponent's skirmish units, which they are.
>>98858002Reivers now also have both a gun and a knife, they're much more deadly now in shooting and melee than before.Also, AP1 on all bolters is an insane buff man, marines players consistently underrate how big of a deal that is vs almost every other army.
>>98858002>Incursors 85 to 905 points for >+2' to move>+1s to gun>+1 AP to gun>sidegrade to ruleCrazy shit.
>>98858042I missed, but also>+1S to knives
>>98858042You ever just look at your own army's elites that cost the same while being slower and having worse attacks and defenses and just wonder what the fuck is going on with the game balance?
>>98858059GW needs to be removed from the position of game balancer
>>98858059The space marine wank on the tabletop needs to be studied. Every other faction starves while they feast.
>>98858059>tfw when guardsmen cost more than souped up marines
>>98858042>there will be less marines on the table as they've become significantly more elite*look inside*>+5 ptsIt's okay, I play a horde army with an abundance of out of phase movement tricks. :^)
>>98858059I just accept it while the rest of the xenos players start marine armies
It feels so good to be a space marine player boys
White Scars is going to be the new Marine boogieman. 18 bikers plus characters, with like 6-8 speeder variants+ATVs, a couple impulsors with erads, barreling into your deployment T1, everything with advance, assault, charge. Extremely thematic but wow is that cancer.
>>98858042They were 95 on day one of the mfm update which felt more right. The scan ability is really nice in marines now they don't have Oath reroll hits, even if +1 to hit is technically stronger than reroll 1s. The mine is worse now you can't drop it into the face of a charging unit and maybe kill a guy or two before they can swing at you. I'm running two units but not sure if it's worth a third with the 10 point tax.
>>98858106>rapes you in the ass>this is thematic!I have thematic fatigue
>>98858006The only correct move is not to play.
>>98858087If everyone plays marines they will stop bitching about how op they think marines are and realise they're a pretty balanced midrange army most of the time. Everyone sees the strengths and cries favouritism while not noticing the weaknesses. Right now terminator spam and deathwatch support are carrying winrates because they're pretty specifically busted.
>>98858119I know the meme but are things really that bad?
>>98858119>Ahhhhh Star children save us!
>>98858059blame the sloptube lore consumers and SM2 setting the expectation that a squad of 3 marines can solo a tyranid invasion and chaos incursion.>intercessor squad costs 3ppm more than dire avengers but are t5, s5 in melee, lieutenant fucks the exarch in melee with potential S8, nuboltrifles are just flat better than avenger shuripults, and they get much better rulesdeport marinefags to HH
>>98858112That's the thing. They lowered the cost since no one is taking them because reivers are even better. Even though they're crazy value if you consider game as a whole. And when they inevitably nerf the reivers everyone will take those instead.That's the problem with having 100 fucking datasheets. Endless whack a mole.
>>98858119>The only correct move is not to play 11thFixed that for you.Go and play 3rd/4th, everyone that matters will have more fun.
>>98857715GSC, and it's not even close. The best part is that they already HAVE the perfect army rule for them, namely the 9th ed one! Literally just give them back crossfire and ambush deployment, it was so fucking cool and fun.
Meganobz are so shit looking
>>98858080>I play a horde army with an abundance of out of phase movement tricksHello DEldarfag
>>98857454I collect all eldars, I liked the box, the book being the only junk. The falcon mold was still in an ok shape at the time.I did buy it 2nd hand new on sprue though.How bad was the initial price comparatively?
>Gallagher painted this and it was just tossed in the bin and some shitty digital art was used for dark vengeance insteadEvery time I think I can't hate GW any more I find another dribble of hate
>>98858139Nah GW can't do that. The 9th rules worked too much as a proper wargame rule and 40k has stop being a wargame for years now.
>>98858122It's pretty bad overall.
>>98857869Those sure are some greater goods.
>>98858151It was $230 USD which was unheard of for a box in 2019.
>>98858154How are CSM E-tier when they got the 11th edition stat buff?
>>98858120>If everyone plays marines they will stop bitching about how op they think marines are and realise they're a pretty balanced midrange army Are a better version of your non-SM army*. FTFY GW has given space marinefags access to basically everything in the game while ALSO being extremely point efficient while ALSO having great movement and killing power. At what point exactly does the marinefag take a look at the dire state of non-SM armies and realize that the things they are given other factions have to pay MORE points for less of everything. Your army baseline saves on 2s and 3s. You have more than 1 wound. You hit on 3s and force opponents to save on 4s and 5s. You have eldar tier movement. Just what exactly are SM midrange at when they are better than everyone else at everything?
>>98858166stay in your discord
>>98858160Also who the fuck was the target for that box?Totally new players that some how wanted both eldar? or a couple of friends that for some reason wanted eldar and dark eldar?I can see things like IG vs Ork, or GSC vs marines. Hell Chaos vs Necrons.But boxes that are like Grey Knights and Custodes? Like who the fuck would be the market for that?
>>98858160GW price? So 200€, even with 20% off that was 160€. Fuck that's 2025 battleforce price, I get the reputation more now.
>>98857085This looks awful, just sayin..
>>98858162because they are overpriced and forced to pay for their abilities unlike marines
>>98858133The previewed cost from youtube channels was 90, then the 95 on release day was a surprise, then the next day it was back to the previewed costs. Just normal GW oddness. Incursors have been recognised as a strong choice since the datasheets leaked, reivers seem to have gained popularity online more slowly.
>>98858166>Just what exactly are SM midrange at when they are better than everyone else at everything?Aesthetics
>>98858171Ynnari player.
>>98858179Thats you and your stank ass that looks awful, just sayin...
>>98858171I think it was supposed to be an Ynnari box set but the models in that box have never all been legal in an Ynnari army at the same time, and certainly not when it was released.
>>98857085Biggerer Batman syndrome
>>98858183>ynnariBe serious anon.
>>98858183>Ynnari
>>98858120>If everyone plays marines they will stop bitching about how op they think marines are and realise they're a pretty balanced midrange army most of the timeEver since victrix released there was not a period of time when marines weren't in the top 3/top 5.Marinefags competing with guardfags in the delusion olympics.
>>98858185Nobody else responded because it just reeks of poor craftsmanship and inferior modeling skills, trash it and start fresh and ditch the excess model so you can focus on improving. Also suck my dick.
>>98858166I get it, you don't play the game and things look really unfair when marines get new stuff so often. But if marines were really so strong they'd be getting more tournament wins and higher winrates than they do. Whenever something emerges that is genuinely OP (like new victrix was) it is nerfed fairly swiftly. Terminators were awful in 10th and are enjoying some time in the sun, and yet custodes still did the same list better before their new codex.
>>98858162They didn't.Yes, on paper, they did get it. But very few of their units actually got anything out of it. Legionaries are almost always only played in 5s with two heavy melee weapons, and heavy melee didn't go up in strength. The chainsword buff is nice but realistically it affects 3-6 models across an entire 2k point army.Accursed weapons and powerfists were unaffected, so chosen and terminator melee damage has fallen through the floor, compare chosen and bladeguard and fucking cry. Terminators are the ONE unit that actually got something resembling a buff, and that's on their bolters. A big terminator unit can now put out some stupid shit in the shooting phase. Of course, you pay more than loyalists for the "privilege".Then, a ton of their stuff got much worse from the marine buffs. Defilers (who have been eating huge nerfs) have a lot of S6, S9 and S10, all of which are breakpoints that suffer badly against the new marines (you'd think S6 would be great, but gravis and terminators are T6 so no). Forgefiends at S10 are worse into enemy terminators and terrible into gravis (because they get -1 to wound from a detachment). Raptors pay out the nose for heavy melee that went unchanged, and Warp Talons are also still S5, meaning they're much worse off now too.And so on.
>>98858187Yeah the entire box makes little sense. Not even the explanation of moving stock could explain it.The GSC and Wolf box only existed to sell the new characters for both armies. Aberrant and generic marine commander #1488But it still made a functional basic bitch army or starting point for either armies.
>>98858207Do you think they’re nice and toasty in their suits?
>>98858200marines can be op as fuck and still have a poor winrate because all the dogshit metachasers switched to marines.
>>98858200Marines have shitloads of tournament wins you clown. What are you on???Their global winrate never reflected their powerlevel because newfags and the most retarded monkeys like yourself also most commonly play them, dragging the winrate down.
>>98858214Law of large numbers also starts to play in with marine matchups where they're so ubiquitous that mirror matches are extremely common, skewing the win rate to the mean.
>>98858198Not much left of your pecker after the mohel botched the surgery, yah obese rat.
>>98858204>A big terminator unit can now put out some stupid shit in the shooting phaseExample?
>>98858200Marines have the second most event wins of the edition right behind Orks. They were winning plenty even before their codex.
>>98858228What a stupid comment
>>98858239>Eldar have zero event wins this editionWild. Thought I'd never see the day that even the factions specialists couldn't still steal a major here and there.
>>98858240But enough about your posts
>>98858239that win rate tho. need buffs.
>>98858230Take Cabal of Chaos as your 1DP (Almost all 2DP can make use of it, so that's more to taste), put a termie sorcerer or a termie lord with the psyker enhancement into the unit, have a termie sorcerer apply death hex to their target and a helbrute stand near wherever you're dropping them (the footprint will be huge, and the heavy weapons can string back to extend it if necessary).That's 36 S6 AP-2 D1 (8 terminators + the combi-bolter on the character) shots with sustained/lethal and full hit re-rolls, just from the bolters and they can have two reaper cannons and the sorc's psychic shooting too. You can add on all kinds of stuff, like in Fellhammer you can have Warp Tracer somewhere else to let them ignore cover, renegade raiders can take them to AP-3 against enemies on objectives and so on. Combi-bolters going from S4AP0 base to S5AP-1 base is kind of nutty for CSM terminators, they were already shooting respectably.
>>98858200>I get it, you don't play the game and things look really unfair when marines get new stuff so often.anon.....ive played 3 games just last week and even posted my batreps in this very thread all 3 vs SMs btw just scroll up>higher winrates than they do.they are in 2nd place for wins, what is this cope? just admit sm are overpowered until the other armies hopefully get fixes with their codexPicrel, most recent game ive played
>>98858241makes sense when all the gimmicks keeping the army competitive get nerfed or given to marines.
>>98858255Iktf anon. I'm a sisters player and it hurts watching salamanders do the flamer gimmick better.
>>98858239They didn’t fully grasp what allowing mixtures of detachments would unleash
>>98858254Nta but it only makes sense they would have Marines be so strong, it’s their bread and butter and their players fund all the other secondary factions.
I don't care what you guys say, I'm picking up the CSM christmas box, paint them in deep red and enjoy playing with them
>>98858256BBC is superior, you should've known
orsk is spinning mjod tales about how much dog cock he's taken again
which factions consistently counter / kill custodes units?not just this edition but through all editionsI wanna make custodes players suffer
>>98858282Ultras are the de-facto african SM chapter not the Wolves
>>98858285First you have to be a good player. Sorry anon, not happening to you.
>>98858286>Romans are the African chapterWhat are you on about?
>>98858282white male chud iron hand is better actually.
>>98858122I dunno I haven't played vs. the new marines yet but will probably this weekend. This was from my last game before the codex was released, it was 94-94 draw.
>>98858285Anti-infantry shooting stuff that ignores high toughness and metal wounds
>>98858285i like how everyone in the community is in alignment that custodes are the tranny faction.
>>98858285>Death guard>Admech kataphron breachers>Dark angels deathwing terminators>Grey knights>Thousand sons>Tyranid monster spamDid I leave out anything?
>>98858166I guess bro forgot that there are only 2 codexes at this point lol
>>98858290Yeah but his pp smol
>>98858296>Matt Wards ultramarines but goldMatt Ward literally invented Grey Knights as they are now.
>>98858301The weakness of the flesh can be augmented through the purity of steel.
>>98858308Women's don't want cold metal boinger, only sizable Salamander shlong. Sorry pal
>>98858296>mostly used by beginners or tryhard tournament players>gw decided they will be the diversity good guy faction>OC donut steel better than everyone else lore>boring as fuck to fight against on the tabletopthey indeed are the tranny faction
>>98858166Once Salamanders and Black Templar get their Codexes we won't really need sisters anymore.
>>98858314>>98858296At least the existence of Custodes makes Knights less abhorrent by comparison.
>>98858197>consistently strong but never OPSpace Marines were perfectly balanced all along
>>98858321Anyone who has enough knights to run them as a list should kill themselves thoughbeit
>>98858224this has always been such a retarded cope
>>98858312> womendisgusting creatures, iron hands are chuds
>>98858239>of the two armies with codexes space marines are performing the worst, thusly they are OP
>>98857072>Chaos Editionhaha yes HAHAHA YESSSSSS
>>98858241Good lol fuck eldar
>>98858329>copeYou mean the thing you're doing right now? >>9885823945% winrate, only 5% 4-0 while at the same time second most tournament wins.Cope away, tard.
>>98858312Human women are made for BGO
What is the most raped army?>blood angels>emperor's children>dark eldar>grey knights>imperial agents>chaos daemons
Is it me or is this middle picture not Tabletop Quality at all?I'd say minimum Tabletop Standard is somewhere between the first "Fully Painted" and the middle image which to me is just basecoats with a finished base. Even just a wash would make it more finished.
>>98858367Yours, oh and Space Wolves ofc
>>98858367Dark Eldar and Grey Knights sit on the top neck and neck with the others a wide margin below, though definitely still raped
>>98858371Though actually reading that, WHW want everything to be Fully Painted and not just their Tabletop Quality
>>98858357lil dude is crashing out at his own fabrications lolmarines are fine relax
>>98858377Space Wolves are doing great and are beloved, I’d say Blood Angels got hit the hardest. Valraks latest video discusses people’s anger over their current treatment.
>>98858321knights are still more fun to play against as they dont have a 2+ save with a 4+ invul
>>98858385Space Wolves take it to the knot, and watching/listening to Valrak makes you also a fag
>>98858392You sound underage so I’ll just ignore you
The over proliferation of the 4++ is probably my single biggest gripe with the game right now
>>98858383I didn't fabricate the data lil bro, you can check yourself.But it's chill now, I understand you felt personally attacked by the fact that marine players are generally dogshit and can barely scrap 45% with an overpowered faction.
>>98858399Funny enough only underage furfags enjoy Valrak so nice projecting
>>98858400Agreed. I don't think any model should ever have an invuln better than 5++, and even that should be exceedingly rare. Yes, daemons should have regular saves.>b-but my dudes will be so squishy without a 4++ or even 3++!AoS is fine and it doesn't have invulns (except nighthaunt, and they don't get better than 5+ saves). If AP or general killiness was reduced invulns would be less necessary. Storm shields and force fields and stuff like that could be represented by extra wounds or other defensive rules like better regular save against certain damage profiles.
The spess wolves christmas box is all termies. I love termies. Wanted to finally get some marines. How do the Wolves play anyway? How much overlap will there be if I already have orks and world eaters?The other marine faction I like is the Templars. Not sure what to pick if any.
>>98858407This is a GW psyop,the northener is a chud who spoils GW announcements
Me and my friends are playing 500 point games. I use CSM and with the new big box on the horizon that got me thinking it might be a nice jump to 1500-ish points.>Lord on terminator armor>5 legionaries>5 terminators >hellbrute Plus the christmas box. Would it be a nice combination? The only thing I'm not interested in is the warpsmith
>>98858419Wolves can either be an aggressive melee army that aims to overwhelm the opponent with waves of tanky, fast melee units that disrupt enemy responses to them (thunder wolves and wulfen usually do this) or a tanky brawler army that puts their shields up and tells the enemy to come get them and punishes them for half-measures or trying to be sneaky (this is what wolf guard do). So if you get the battleforce, you're likely aiming for the second type of playstyle.
>>98858400I think 4++ is fine when it's something that will take a million saves, like a little psyker or something.The mistake is having 4++ on fucking vehicles and T11 monsters because you hurt them with weapons that have very low volume so it's giga swingy and can feel terrible for either side when your rolls are slanted.
>>98858401The data says they’re not OPYou say they’re OP because you’re crashing out and falling apart little manRight before our very eyesRough to watch ngl
>>98858423Yeah, that sounds like a pretty stable list. It actually really does want the warpsmith though, he does wonderful things for the defiler. Helbrutes are the best friend of all CSM shooting platforms, mutilators and terminators are excellent rapid ingress threats (especially mutilators) and you get some skirmishing with the legionaries and the warpcrawler.
>>98858298>admechadmech has a 70%+ loss rate against custodesinfact custodes counter admech
>>98857729Because there is no god.What is the name of this style of digital artwork? Does it have a name? Reminds me of Vermis
>>98857072Ive got a few though I mainly only play CSM and IG.Hoping for CSM we keep our full lethal or sustained hits without any of the caveats of lethal hits only being against certain units such as lethal hits: infantry like what happened to Lieutenants in the SM codex. As for IG, probably buff the guns up and turn Bridgehead Strike into a 2dp detachment and give it the treatment other 2dp detachments have where its got more stratgems and more enhancements. I'd also like the +1 to wound back that it originally had before it got changed to a +1 to hit when you drop from reserves or disembarkRecent game was against my work buddy, it was a 3k game at Warhammer world, his custodes vs my CSM, I lost but I got a morale victory by destroying his termis with my own
>>98858429Yeah, it's rough to watch you, lil bro, but whatever makes you happy. I'm sure they're totally not gonna get nerfed next update. :)
>>98858447nice ultramarines bro!
>>98858439Dungeonsyth maybe?i know that's a music genre, but this type of art style does feel like that
What's the fastest army in the game right now?
>>98858456Phobos Marines with Outrider and Speeder support.
>>98858456Depends. Overall, probably dark eldar, they fast as fuck, boi.Certain armies like World Eaters can be REALLY fucking fast out of the gate with scout moves, but slow down afterwards.Marines are fast in a flexible way, they're almost always acting and it's very difficult to keep away from them, but strictly speaking they just aren't as fast as eldar can be.
>>98858367sisters
>>98858467>probably dark eldar, they fast as fuck, boi.Dark Eldar are actually slower than Marines now, and Raiders are so paper thin that they'll get gunned down the instant they poke their hull into a line of sight.
>activates sandevistan
>>98858439It's derivative/inspired of ASCII and ANSI art, but it's so refined that it's closer to MSpaint art or any other aliased digital stylesin fact, I have a suspicion that the texture is literally the MS paint spray tool texture
>>98857085kino, now paint that bitch up.
>>98858467>but strictly speaking they just aren't as fast as eldar can be.Anon...
>>98858385>Valraks latest video discusses people’s anger over their current treatment.Is there a petition? Are people taking to the streets? Should Rountree be worried?
>>98858241>faction specialistsA non-zero of "faction specialists" just aren't playing their factions right now.They're still playing, just with factions with better rules and units in current game than *their* faction.>>98858254Anon, please learn to identify bad faith shitposters fasterAll they want is to make you mad and to get you down in the metaphorical mud with them so they can laugh at you having been dragged into the mud. Do not engage with them.>that Rhino seam between the front glacis and the left sidegrimConsider some tamiya putty or something to fill it in before you paint it in full, that seam will bother you when you look at it after it's painted up.
>>98858139Sorry crossfire was too hard for Winters SEO to wrap his head around so he whinged about it to daddy GW and now GSC is relegated to dogshit boring and "digestible" faction mechanics for the rest of time
>>98858400Yep. Especially since only mortal wounds counter invulns and invalidate ap. but the units that have invul saves all have multiple wounds or units. It's just a really terrible feeling mechanic in general
>>98858474The prices killed any interest I had
>>988584925 euro for 12ml, where 2ml of it will dry on the shitty pot. I can just get Vallejo/AK equivalent of 18ml for 3 euro instead.
>>98858473Anon, phobos marines being M8 and regular deldar infantry being M7 doesn't make deldar slower than marines. Deldar transports move 14", faster than anything marines got. Reavers are 16" move BASE and auto-advance 8", for a 22" guaranteed move, which is WAY more than anything marines can do. Deldar have access to abundant assault, advance/charge and some really nasty out-of-phase movement tricks.Yes, they're made out of wet paper and die to overwatching bolters, unlike marines, but that wasn't the question.
>>98858450I’m OK with them getting nerfed pipsqueak, I like an uphill battle
>>98858500Guess which army has army-wide advance and charge and advance and shoot access? I'll give you a hint, it's not DEldar.
>>98858509Sisters of Battle!
>>98858509Oh, oh, I know this one!Emperor's Children!Wait, not the answer you were looking for? Too bad. Just advancing and doing stuff doesn't make you the fastest army.
>>98858499how long till paint pens
>>98858514...except EC is legitimately one of the fastest armies in the game.
>>98858439Fake Videogame Art for the pretentious. Most people will call it something like >retroor >8bit art not really understanding the specifics of it.
>>98858520Oh, they're definitely one of the fastest armies in the game, and I'd definitely put them above loyalist marines when it comes to speed (because they're not reliant on doctrines, they're just fast every round of the game), but they're still slower than deldar (and honestly, probably regular craftworlders if those guys build for maximum speed too).
>>98858528But it doesn't really look like any video game, except maybe Ruin
>>98857769>losing against blood angels? How??
>>98858539https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0rQAB3s99Y
>>98858534But wait I thought that loyalist space marines had every single thing that every other army had but better?
>>98857411Battlewagons are one of the most efficient transports in the game, and they're a kickass model to boot. And with how much they're trying to charge for them on their own, I wouldn't buy one unless it's in this bundle
>>98858528It has literally nothing to do with videogames outside of being made of pixels and having a limited palette
How would (You) fix invulnerability saves? Hard mode: No removing it from the game.
>>98858557You're doing that thing again when you attribute what one anon said in a completely different context to what another anon is saying. Don't do that.
>>98858572You keep it rare, the best is 4+ on ultra rare shit.One iron halo per army (plus chaplain rozarius) was the right way. You actually make it matter.Rerolls should be very rare.
>>98858534Reivers/Incursors scout 6", 8" base, D6 advance (or flat 6 with a strat), SHOOT (with strats or doctrine), and with a Phobos Captain can move D6 AFTER shooting, AND still charge. That's a potential 20" +3D6 threat range.I cannot do that as elves unless I go with Eldritch Raiders, a 2DP detachment that is blanket Advance and Charge but has no other support for the army at all. White Scars are maybe 1-2" slower than the fastest elves but they have way better data sheets.
>Painting bugs>get bored of itWhat's the sexiest army? I want to paint something attractive So I'm leaning between Slaanesh or Dark Eldar
I'm completely new to warhammer.I got the Space Marine's half of the starting set (the one with terrain) from a friendwhat's the cool guys' Chapter of choice? Let's say I paint them as salamanders, does that stop me from using other chapters' characters?
>>98858572Easy. No invulns better than 6 and increase wounds across the board. This game is way too lethal so make getting hit feel good for both players. At least if you're doing damage you're making progress instead of 50/50 to do nothing.
>>98858565Pixel art and ASCII art are rather tied to video games
>>98858528>Fake Videogame Art for the pretentious.But I really like Vermis and this art style. Do I have bad taste
>>98858598Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Blood Angels, Black Templar and Ultramarines are the only chapters worth using since they're the only ones that have actual range and support from GW. The rest are just "dude marines but yellow" with at most 1-2 special models specifically for them.
>>98858598No, just play whatever chapter you want.
>>98858618I refer to them as the Knights of the Round Table
>>98857140Banehammer with six bullgryn insideProbably another 4 Leman russes, couple of rogal dorns, 20 Cadians, maybe a Enginseer to buff the big tankMaximum annoyance for your opponent.
>>98858617No, but you do share taste with pretentious YouTubers and millennial hipsters
>>98858589Lykhis+Warp Spiders can do 26" plus charge. Without needing a target to shoot at or giving up hidden. Every round, no scout move necessary, with zero detachment or stratagem support. 27" in Warhost.Deldar can have a raider scouting 9", then moving 14"+d6" and still charge, putting it at a healthy 23+3d6" turn one threat range.>White Scars are maybe 1-2" slower than the fastest elves but they have way better data sheets.But the discussion wasn't about how good the datasheets are, is it? It's who is the fastest. And yes, UNDOUBTEDLY, loyalist marines of whatever flavor is a stronger army than deldar or cwe, much because they can be ALMOST as fast but much better at actually slugging it out. But that's not what's being discussed.
>>98858635Eh I ca live with that, broken clocks are right twice a day, they happen to have good taste on something. But probably like in for the wrong reasons and draw the wrong ideas from it
>>98858598Space Wolves and Blood Angels are considered the cream of the crop in terms of coolness.
>>98858598>cool guys' Chapter of choice?/yourdudes/ are the ultimate way to be a cool guyOr if you lack in creativity, whatever you think looks coolest. You can play flamerspam White Scars and you can play bike spam Salamanders, they just have chapter-specific detachments that give some benefits to running them; Forgefather's Seekers is the Salamanders one that heavily wants you to run flamers and Vulkan He'Stan, for example.>Let's say I paint them as salamanders, does that stop me from using other chapters' characters?Yes, if you use the "chapter-specific" detachments for them. You can't take Guilliman if you play Forgefather's Seekers, because Forgefather's Seekers only lets you use Salamanders units and generic space marine units.There are only 2 models that have the Salamanders keyword: Vulkan He'Stan and Adrax Agatone.That said, there is nothing stopping you from taking Guilliman in your Ultramarines successor chapter of /yourdudes/, either, as long as you use Ultramarine rules that allow for Guilliman to be in your army.
>>98858572change every invuln save to a FNP
Successor chapters are the glup shittos of 40k
>>98858595Just get yourself one of these.
>>98858640>Lykhis+Warp Spiders can do 26" plus charge.>just use a 240+ point named character combo that will still likely be single-useEven bare Warp Spiders are 15/20 points more expensive than Reivers/Incursors.
>>98858642I guess it depends on why you like that art style, and then cross-examine that with the justification for why people like Super Eyepatch wolf like that aesthetic as well
>>98858572Characters only.
>>98858661But they ARE faster. Why do you keep adding in unnecessary caveats like points and combat stats?
>>98858659Got a load of those venom sacs!
>>98858671NTAIt's to put the comparison in perspective so you can actually compare an apple to an orange instead of just comparing the glucose content of either fruit to the other
>>98858640Yes, I get your point. A lot of Xenos players are salty because while we technically still have our niches, the gap between us and Marines has been ground down to so little that our (small) advantages in our niches don't outweigh the multitude of advantages that Marines have in every other area.
>>98858664>Super Eyepatch wolfNever heard of him so I must be doing something right. I just think its an unique art style and I like the creativty of the world they made
>>98858598marines malevolent are the cream of the crop when it comes to cool dudes.
>>98858079which ones, because you are full of shit. cheapest marines are 170, most expensive guard infantry 150. And a 10 man scion squad will do a lot more killing than a 10 man intercessor.
>>98858664What are the "wrong" reasons to like something and what are the "right" reasons? Am I suppose to hate something because someone with the wrong opinion likes it too?
>>98857079I just know they hoped that this manlet will generate firstborn hype
>>98858692I only bring him up since he's the author of that book the other anon brought up >>98858528
Can't think of a good name for my chapter. Using Soul Reavers as a placeholder but sounds too generic.
>>98858674Kek
>>98858715what’s their lore?
>>98858702>What are the "wrong" reasons to like something When they like it for a retarded reason >what are the "right" reasons?When they like it for an elevated, intelligent and relatable reason.Like the cunts who like Vermis because its western souls like story telling but hate dark souls for being dumb and confusing, when actually they hate dark souls because its made by the Japanese and they're retarded racist americans who think art made by non whites is bad and inferior. Retards like that enjoy it for the wrong reasons
>>98858715My chapter are called "the Knights Cosmic". Original chapter donut steel.
>>98858367Dark Eldar are good for nowThey will be raped soon once the "refresh" comes, replaces their god tier Kabalite kits with flavorless and monopose ones, adds bitchless Vects, puts Wyches into burqas and fixes nothing which actually needed fixing like replacing their lost resin Haemonoculi and Mercenary minis, let alone expanding their range
>>98858733>when actually they hate dark souls because its made by the Japanese and they're retarded racist americans who think art made by non whites is bad and inferior.is it just me, or has there been a lot of back to back schizoposts lately?
>>98858733Isn't Dark Souls just based on old GW Fighting Fantasy and Lone Wolf CYOA books?
>>98858744Those types of people are real anon sorry to say. Same cunts who think anime subbed is garbage and unwatchable and that mangas are inferior to comics. A strange mindset only found in millennial americans who claim to be anti-racist but have intense deranged racist views
>>98858726Mix of feral and feudal homeworldMelee oriented with massed infantry Signature weapon is the eviscerator
>>98858733>>98858762Getting a little off topic hereThere are plenty of weebs who like jappa shit just for being jappa so its not wild to think there are people who think the oppositeHaving said that, I’ve really been enjoying the 11th edition of Warhammer forty thousand
>>98858762You sound like a total kooky bitch
>>98858733>who think art made by non whites is bad and inferiorhaha
>>98858736Yo that pic is hot
>>98858598Honestly if I could go back in time and re-choose my chapter I would probably choose ravenguard. I regret getting invested in blood angels.
>>98858784he’s definitely a schizoposter, but never forget you’re still the lowest of the low here.
>>98858788You can barely paint a GW model thoughbeit.
>>98858791Raven are p cool
Why has GW never fixed the anti-synergy between lethal hits and dev wounds?
>>98858791Dante is disgusted by your weakness and Mephiston will rape your soul then Astorath will rape your corpse.
>>98858797I don’t see what that has to do with anything. though I can assure you I’m a very talented painter.
>>98858598I like Iron Hands; the concept of Space Marines with crippling body dysmorphia is hilarious and I happen to like it when the cruellest and bloodiest regime imaginable engages in a bit of tomfoolery
>>98858797trueI hate painting
>>98858811Painting and assembling is the lamest part of the hobbyI just like playing games with friends
>>98857300I remember many many years ago they used that Baneblade for the 360-degree view on the webstore page once, was pretty funny.
>>98858793I’m a model poster and 4 year vet so I doubt that
>>98858808I didn’t realize they love rape so much. you’d think they and space wolves would be best friends then when it comes to sex crimes.
>>988588184 year vet of what? the twitter incel wars lmao
>>98858818>4 year vet trying too hard. you’re not making anyone upset, you’re just embarrassing yourself.
>>98858791I love his dumbass bolter birds on his base.
>>98858818Come back when your a 21 year vet like me
>>98858818doakes.png
>>98858808I'm surprised Dante, Mephiston, and Astorath took a long enough break from sucking dick to even know who I am. Maybe they should spend more time getting artificer armor for their SG that doesn't look shite, get us some death company models, and bring back the librarian dread.
>>98858829What the fuck are you even talking about just shut up>>98858819Projection from a gay
>>98858733I like it because it makes my pp hard.
>>98858818No one gives a shit if you're not posting models.
>>98858371I thought everyone was welcome? Almost like gate keeping and standards are a good thing. The same people that enforce these painting requirements believe in open borders. Fully painted army or we turn back your dhingy mohammed.
>>98858844>tries to troll >starts getting a melty over it failingsee what I’m talking about? this just makes you look insanely pathetic.you need to stop overplaying your part.
>>98858736DEldar will be fine. We will just kitbash the old models with the new or print and add our own gruesome trophies. Not like we aren't all used to fixing GWs mistakes by now anyway.
>>98858856Nobody is trolling anyone except you retard
>98858864
>>98858565The entire art 'movement' has very little to do with actual videogames. Its just a style built on the ideas of videogames they would have liked to play or watch someone play more likely. There's a bunch of them. Same with dungeon synth. It was new a few years ago so its filtered through to mainstream art like 40k.
>>98858860There's so really nice DE alternate sculpts out there, it pays to be coomer adjacent.
>>98858815Assembling, converting, kitbashing, printing, sculpting, recasting are GOATPainting is absurdly boring. It's such a drag it takes me ages to do. I gave up recently and just started to paint all my backlog asap, details be damned...playing?
>>98858872Link to any particular ones? I'm looking for some myself to print
>>98858791I heard people buy this guy more to turn him into a NL character than to use him as he is lmao
>>98858860>printNo good Dark Eldar stls exists. I tried and looked and they all suck and look like knock off chinese garbage. Those edge guy minis suck too and are not modular
>>98858870Dungeon Synth has been around since the 90s.Here's an example of a album from 1990https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roZ_WtzdWYc&timo I would associate it more with OSR than video games
>>98858842You were never a Blood Angels fan
new mini todayfinally finish that entire hellforge box
>we're moving soon>Come home from work all tired as fuck>family magnetized 80% of my model bases with miliput and theyre all greatI could cry.
>>98858962>finally finished that entire hellforge boxgreat! just in time to get ready to paint the entire cult of destruction box :D
>>98859006Honestly a pretty great box to add to it.
>>98859006dont have to get that boxcause I literally just bought everything but warpsmith weeks ago
>>98858996Awww that’s cute, Gratz on having a loving family brother.
I'm a filthy secondary who wants to get into Marines this edition. Any recommendations on where to get started on a Terminator army? What kinds of support will they want as far as other models go? Beyond some configuration of buffing via solos/attachments, I imagine that some kind of heavy armor popper would be good, some way to harass and mess with opponent scoring since my big boys are slow and thicc. Secondary question, how is Marine armor? I sort of like how howertanks look.
>>98859042Thanks anon. Im glad the process is simple. Miliput + magnet is enough to make a sturdy magnetized base. No glue required.
>>98858892Armies for the feel of this album?
>>98858947And to you I say fuck off good sir
How come there's not a version of the hive tyrant evolved from a trygon prime? The prime already is a synapse creature and coordinates attacks, and underground is way safer than on the surface for a leader organism. We could even call it a dive tyrant.
>>98857655Why is ZOOS here
>>98857705Share pics please. 4th ise great. Way better than nuhammer trash
>>98859111No one at GW communicates with each other and every department competes.GW has a ton of sculpts they could release at any time, they just pull one out of a hat whenever its time to release a model. Nobody looks to see if the model is good or makes sense.
>>98858996unironically impressive
>>98859070NTA and although that's probably true I like to add glue as well.
>>98859109>I own a shitty $15 mug with a nu blood angel on it, so I like them!why not post your blood angels army or your collection of blood angels books?
>>98858996Hopefully they didn't mess up the polarity ahah..
>>98859142nta but its funny how much shit people here get for being GW paypigs despite GW sucking ass and being extremely anti-consumer, but then the second you start arguing its like “oh yeah PROVE it! show me all the merch you consoomed or you’re a fake fan!”
>>98857823Space marines are toughness 4 anything else is an autofelative fanfiction. Daily reminder that kroots have strength 4 like a space marine while wearing no power armour.
>>98859152there are like 2 dozen different factions on here but as always people like you want to group everyone into some analogous blob
>>98859075SoB, Knights, Either imperial or Chaos, maybe Mechanicus
when do the collage anchorposts start?
>>98859152anon, models and books are the main ways you enjoy an army and their lore what the fuck are you doing if you don’t do either? its like calling yourself a star wars fan, but you’ve never seen the movies, tv shows, or read the books. do you just look at artwork all day and go “hell yeah, those guys are probably really cool, too bad I’ve read fuck all on them”. not like that’s why people are called paypigs either, no one here calls someone a paypig here for buying models, they’re calling someone a paypig for buying every model possible no matter how inherently dogshit they are/look.AND THEN the original post was claiming he was a fan because he consumed chinese sweat shop made merch anyway, so why not demand he post more merch?
>>98859109Damn that mug is fire! I’m gonna order a Space Wolves one right now.
>>98859204last week of the month.
>>98859215I just listen to audiobooks about my favorite faction
>>98859219Don't forget your dude wipes, faggot!
>>98859233nah, as a true space wolves fan, I let it crust as the wolves of fenris do.
>>98859142Sure, have some firstborn
>>98859251nice try, you’re not fooling me with those loyalist night lords.
>>98859229this anon gets it
>>98859144I just checked them all as I put them away (cleaned up the extra bits of miliput here and there) and the only issues are that some models are a bit "wobbly" because the magnet is sticking out like a quarter of a milimeter. I tried pressing into them but its been a couple hours so the miliput already hardened somewhat so the magnet wont sink further, but its fine. So nothing major thankfully, the polarities seem fine.
>>98859233>>98859246You’re negative all the time and hate when people enjoy their hobbies, so freakin odd.
>>98859281why the did you reply to me? I like space wolves!
>>98859281You haven't painted anything in a year faggot, shitposting on 4chan is not a hobby
So for 11th edition the most important thing is the footprint right? Can I just slap whatever on it for the actually terrain or do I need to make more specific stuff, I was just gonna make a few foam walls and use likes cans and other random shit to fill it out
>>98859272ah shit. yeah the way i do it isglue magneta couple drop of glue around the magnetapply milliputthen put the mini down on her base and rub against my mat until the milliput is perfectly flatbecause yes magnets are usually the same height as the underside of a base
>>98859292The type of terrain matters too unfortunatelyt. spent 20 minutes before last game setting up terrain for the specific matchup template
What's a planet in 40k always under attack by Xenos and Chaos with them sometimes taking over too but it's such an important planet that they can't even afford to just glass it?
>>98859289>hobby: a pursuit outside one's regular occupation engaged in especially for relaxationseems like a hobby to me, I’m honestly really upset you’re downplaying my pass time of crying about trolls and posting my nuln oil slathered models :(
>>98859289Painting Hellblasters for the collage dumbo
>>98859301You mean besides Armageddon? I guess Vigilus.
>>98859301Armageddon
>>98859305>t.Ugly shitty painter
>>98859307Nice try, you haven't posted a single wip picture so they're either being commisioned or you're lying. Also you're not getting on the collage anyway lmao
>>98859300Im mostly trying to make some budget terrain since my friends are getting into Warhammer, but I haven't played since 9th and Ive been figuring out the new shit with 11th but I at least need some terrain to teach and actually fucking play
>>98859317IIRC you need small walls, high walls, and some tower things
What's the best Warhammer wiki? There's like a dozen of them.
>>98859316You don’t make the decisions here so what you say is irrelevant
>>988593321d6chan since it gives you old /tg/ lore as well
>>98859314I mean yeah, I just told you I slather them in nuln oil, and shove decals in every free space, and refuse to listen to any criticism regarding them. sounds pretty ugly and shitty to me tbqh. anyway, we’re done having this argument, get back to posting about warhammer.
>>98859342Funny nobody ever says that about my models in person and they are overly complimentary with them but like you said this convo is over.
>>98859332lexicanum used to be the best, but now there’s a new one made with pretty much the same people with a better UI and less glitches. https://warhammer40k.wiki.gg/
>>98859371HEY! those are my models you’re talking about, and I don’t ever get compliments on them irl because I’ve been banned from all my local game stores! and no, I need to have the last reply or else I’ll shit my pants and cry.this conversation is over.
>>98859316I think he’s just looking for attention, but it’ll still be really funny when the anchor post is made, and we get to see that the mutant is in fact banned permanently from the collage.
Who at GW do I have to slap in order to get some decent models?
>>98859399maybe don’t pick the army with shit models? I got plenty of decent to good ones on my end :)
>>98859399You have to slap them with a fist full of cash and then thank them for a Primaris lieutenant.
>>98859293>because yes magnets are usually the same height as the underside of a baseYeah my magnets are like, just a bit thinner than the space between the base and the flat surface, so the miliput is necessary inbetween as a buffer.
>>98859396If he doesn’t allow him on then he will have proven him right that it was all for show and that he’s a bully.
>>98859451that’s enough talking about things outside of warhammer. get back on topic.
>>98859251Cool vintage models, I’ve been thinking about getting some, my dad used to have a bunch.
>>98858572Give invuln saves a built in damage threshold. So yeah, you save, but only 2 damage or something.It represents a shield, better, a Bladeguard Veteran would eat 1 or 2 damage hits nonstop if they hit his shield, but a railgun or lasgun would penetrate it.
Does anyone in the Galaxy actually want peace?Is the Imperium's goal to finally be peaceful once they rule the galaxy? Do the Eldar want the galaxy to be at peace?
>>98859601Why would you settle for a piece when you can the whole thing?
>>98859601Once the Galaxy is cleansed of all Xeno we can move on to the minorities
>>98859135That's stupid. That doesn't seem like a very efficient way to work.
>>98859601T'auTyranids (technically)the Imperium nominally wants peace in the long run, but even if a genie wiggled his nose and deleted all Chaos and xeno threats it has so many internal enemies that it would still be on a total war footing forever—ditto Necrons
>>98859493Thanks anon
>>98859601Maybe Guilliman.
>>98859657Nta but I do agree, The Imperium and Necrons seem to have the most disharmony amongst their internal factions. There’s always someone doing something else wrong that can be improved upon in their minds.
>>98859670Poor bastard.
Is there any downside for me running 3 Castigators in my sisters list?
>>98859601>Do the Eldar want the galaxy to be at peace?Yes. The Craftworlds predate the fall as merchant and exploration vessels that would often engage in diplomacy and trade with other races. They previously viewed violence with disdain and after the Fall now view it with horror. If every other major faction just vanished from 4he galaxy overnight, the Craftworlds would happily go back to floating through space interacting with younger races.
>>98859651It gets worse. The sculptors are allowed to decide what units get added when codexes get updated. They just told to make sculpts for that codex and the rules people are stuck working with whatever the fuck the sculptors came up with.
>>98859696I reckon a huge chunk of the Eldar would want to have a go at settling the Maiden Worlds and starting over again in the event of total peace breaking out, perhaps to the point of landing their Craftworld on a planet and using it as the heart of their new colony.
>>98859601The Imperiums goal is to see Humanity to survive long enough to become a completely psyker race, and then live in the Imperial Webway (Heaven,) together.
>>98859724Damn that’s pretty sick
40k is getting so well known that the two big American comics companies are copying it for book>>>/co/155980977
>>98859696Fascinating. How well do they get along with the Tau, and that other faction that just wants to engage in peaceful commerce with everyone?
>>98857072My group is trying out 4th ed rules, with 3rd ed codexes. Homebrew Custodes codex. Straight forward missions & lack of mental load due to tracking strats/timing was cool.
>>98858736I want the refresh to see the 3D artists to become interested in dark eldar again. No GW restraints, balls to the wall dark eldar flavour,.
>>98859741The Eldar may or may not have been responsible for the Tau's spectacularly fast evolution from ogga booga cavemen to a technologically advanced spacefaring species.
>>98859754what kind of stats do homebrew custodes have in 4th edition?
>>98859741The inly notable Tau-Eldar conflicts have been when the Tau try to settle in Maiden Worlds, and even then the Eldar give them more warnings than other races.
>>98859736Dunno ask /cm/
>>98859801Do the Tau and Eldar females ever kiss each other?
>>98859724Only when Big E was up and about, ever since He got throne'd the Imperium's aim has been to maintain the status quo.
>>98859801Everything about the end of the Mont'au is so "Big E recovering one of his lost sons" coded that it not being A) a fragment of his soul doing its best to get the ball rolling again or B) a convergent evolution thing where the Ethereals remained in hiding for most of their species's history but then revealed themselves to unite their homeworld and start a great crusade to unite the galaxy under common cause would feel wrong.>>98859822Fair enough, but surely there's T'au presence on the native worlds of other races they get along with, like Pech and whatever planet the Nicassar are from
>be armageddon ork pleb>see new ork battleforce>it would put me into playable army instantly>but the models are so fucking old and they are clearly using this to get rid of old kits before refreshing it>but even if you know they are set to refresh, it still going to be 6-12 months away at leastthe dilemma
>>98859317the footprints are all that really matter. the rules that actually interact with terrain pieces are few and far between. terrain areas are assumed to be infinite height when blocking line of sight through them regardless of what's put inside, and infantry moves through solid objects. any old junk is fine when starting out.
>Bonus TQI played my 60th Combat Patrol against a buddy (me: Strike Marcellos vs his vardenghast swarm) and always lose. I'm just convinced that SM combat patrols are ass.
Is there anywhere I can download the lore bits of Titus: 500 Worlds or Armageddon: Operation Imperator?
>>98859927You're not supposed to play a combat patrol against another combat patrol as a gamemodeThey're a slightly smaller "start an army" box than battleforces. They live in 3 spaces>hot dogass meant to empty shelves in warehousesThe Guard one is a good example.>you'll probably want these units as a good starting point to work from, but you have a long way to goThe SoB and Dark Angels ones are good examples.>buy 1-2 of these to have a solid "beginner" 2k army (with a few choice additions)The Tau and Custodes ones are good examples.Part of your problem is you're playing a game with boxes that aren't meant to be complete or comparable.
>>98860028GW supposedly "balances" the special rulesets for combat patrol to be more or less balanced against each other, it's not anons fault they dont actually do that
>>98860014I have it on PDF. But, if you want me to hand it over, you have to say “Glory to India. India New World Order NOW”
>>98860050I curse Vishnu
>>98857508
>>98859886Just wait, you’ll wish you did.
>>98860044The guard combat patrol is 285 points.The custodes combat patrol is 1170 points.There is NO universe where these two are balanced against each other (especially considering the guard one contains zero tanks, where the custodes one contains a dreadnought).This is why I say they're a "start an army" box.
What's the deal with Imperial Agents?
I fucking love meganobz.
how do I into sisters of silence without contacting special agent chang?
>>98860088They're some idiot's futile attempt at making an "army" out of what really should have been Codex: Imperial Soup Ingredients.
>>98860088
>>98860088Half assed attempt at replicating the 3rd edition inquisition codexes dragged down by a dozen KT squads and no stormtroopers or requisitoned tanks.
>>98860097[apartment int.][george walks in]>hey george, how did your date go? What was it, Warhammer?>yeah warhammer, but she played Custodes Jerry!>custodes?>how can i date someone that plays custodes jerry, it's unnatural!
>>98860070Do they even still release new combat patrol rules with the 11e boxes like they did in 10th or have they abandoned them all together?I am curious to see how the hell they tried to balance the Custodes one and how terribly they failed. Even in 10th edition as I recall you had to just pick a unit not to bring to the game at the start of every game for Custodes and Grey Knights.
>>98860088They ought to have Custodes, Grey Knights, Deathwatch, and Imperial Knights folded into them so they can be something like a real army and the folded-in factions can be put on the tabletop with a reasonable number of models instead of, e.g., having literally every Purifier that realistically exists in the setting all in one corner of one battlefield dealing with some Skitarii that got uppity or having a dozen or more Custodes present for literally any reason besides somebody breaking into the Imperial Palace
>>98860107"Combat Patrol" is a marketing term now, that's what I'm saying. Custodes just got a combat patrol like 2ish? weeks ago.They abandoned the gamemode as its own thing not long after introducing it.
>>98860118thank goodness they made sure to waste 16 pages in the codexes telling you about them :)
>>98860103Kek
>>98857072>>10th/11th Edition RulesWhy does the OP say 11th Edition Rules when none of the 11th edition books are in either link?
played a gqme of 4th earlierme and opponent forgot to do the mission so we just killed each other, as god intendedI lost due to phase out
desperately wish that sisters of battle just got terminator armor
>>98860118>>98860107Lol, I checked into it and apparently the new custodes combat patrol just doesn't let you use half of the box. You only get to field five models out of 11.So they are still making rules for this game mode and ostensibly trying to balance it somewhat.
>>98860207desperately wish that sisters of battle worshipped my cock instead of the emperor
sisters of battle should get pregnant instead
>>98860207This is how we get another Vahlgons situationYou and I both know that GW won't let them be good on their own so they'd need a leader, and they'd only give us one leader for them so you're limited to 1 unit per army.>>98860208That Custodes patrol is still 675 points even at half size. The guard one would need to be more than doubled to be comparable.
>>98860207same sis....same
>>98860197>using minis that werent available during 4thIMMERSION RUINED
>>98859820Army special rule was super fearless (letting then choose to fail/pass any moral, fall back, and not being destroyed from Sweeping Advance).Guardian Spears have +1 Str or +1 Atk when charging or when charged.
>>98860107Nah, they took the Combat Patrol out of the codex even. I would say unbalanced are fine for narrative scenarios, but sometimes it’s a bit too much to contend with.
>>98857140
>>98860207I imagine Paragon Warsuits are meant to be their Termie equivalents. I like em, though I wish the arms were contained inside the suit as well.
>>98860207Give SoB Saturnine as armed and armoured exo-suits.
>>98860237the nobz?
>>98860285yes and that also looks like a warboss converted from a beastboss. at least minis werent painted back then too
>>98860285>Those green cones..Gross
>>98860241>AI slopped the troops iconholy soulless
>>98860288nah the warboss isnt made from a beastboss, he's older than thatI think he's based on the AOBR guy
>>98860285I'm jealous of your classic wraiths, I have warriors and a lord or two in the old style, but not those.
>>98860315which came in 5th edition, immersion just keeps getting btfo. at least you're consistent
>>98860250Having the arms controlled by visible joysticks preserves the power loader vibe that they were obviously "inspired by" and the armored legs allow people who don't want to think about what the pilot's legs are doing don't have to. It's peak.
we need a new bread so i can ritual post
>>98860319I also have metal immortals, flayed ones and pariahs >>98860338at least I play the game
>>98860353>those rodsAre those Lego lightsaber blades?
>>98860353>playing 4thi wasnt much of a fan back then and im still not now so im fine with not playing that edition
>>98860359nta but no, those came with the kit. It was pretty cool at the time. I was saddened to return to the hobby and find that idea was dropped with modern Necrons.
>>98860387I wasn't, I fucking hated having to buy third party ones that were 100% just lego lightsabers if I wanted different colored energy
Anyone got art of the really old style imperial guard armor?
>>98860241Got a link?
>>98857583You can do CSM, Daemons (Shadow Legion), or Chaos Knights. They all have access to Damned units.
>>98857715>>98791883
It’s beautiful, 11th here we come!
>>98860446>paper plate
Now that the dust has settled, what does /40kilograms/ think about post-codex Custodes?
>>98860470Good. Fun to play. Fluffy as hell. Tons of new options. Actual integration of HH models. Actually accomplished the job of making them feel elite from both sides of the table AND reduced the price of an army to play for once.Space Marines looks like armature hour compared to this one.
>>98860088It's just an excuse to give Kill Team models rules for 40k
>>98860468So what? Are they bad for you or something?
>>98860207If you had to choose between getting sisters on bikes or sisters in terminator armor, which would you choose?
>>98860475>armature hour
>tfw still no red terror solo releasegw have to be taking the piss at this point
>>98860446>half helmet
>>98859886It's going to take you half a year to build/paint everything up anyway
pre nuhammer/votan fluff, what were the men of stone and gold supposed to be?
>>98860479just wash your plates like a normal person
>>98860486>>98860446I would have bought the codex if the cover art was better.
>>98860495
Can an eldar corsair captured as a slave by dark eldar eventually earn their freedom through fighting in the wych arenas, and thus essentially become a fellow dark eldar?
I don't think I hate painting but I also don't love it. I think I'm a creative person but for some reason I don't get excited at the prospect of painting minis. What do?
>>98860495he can't, he lives in his car
>>98860509Be a man and just suck it up and paint, also look forward to posting your finished product here for your peers to review and admire
>>98860502>>98860446>decalnigger bought the meme collectors edition>he also eats from paper plates like a fucking animalcan't make this shit up
let me guess, you "need" more?
>>98860446best watch yourselfthis is an ork neighborhood.
>>98860522get back on topic to warhammer instead of prattling on about garbage like this.
>>98860446>That fat fucking gutLeast surprising decalpedo reveal
>>98860521Yea that looks like something an Ork might eat
>>98860521>anon is eating as if germany is still flying overheadwell at least its on a normal plate
If anyone is tired of the never ending decal faggotry and his orbiters every thread just (You) this post with a timestamped pic of your models.I'll shoot you an invite to the 40kg painters discord. It's where thread regulars chill and chat with each other about the game or w/e when the threads get annoying without worrying about catching a stray ban from the jannies
>>98860479Nta but no lol. There is a recent trend where people are too lazy to wash dishes so they only use paper plates. Nothing wrong with that but some people are really judgey
>>98860483I saw the typo before I sent it but thought it was funny so I left it
>>98860534why does it matter? you’re also partaking by getting off topic. what does your shirt have to do with 40K?
>>98860470I like their new points cost. Obviously it sucks if you already own a bajillion of them, but it’s at a good size now to buy into as a side army, like getting into knights.
>>98860534>for no reason
>>98860526>deathskulls boy eating from some looted corpse starch cans after a battle with IG.
>>98860545life isn’t fair. go back to talking about warhammer and suck it up, or get out of the warhammer thread.
>>98860525>hmmmm, should I paint my blasties? >eh, maybe another day. gotta own those trolls first.
>>98860493something mysterious to fuel the players imaginations
>paypiggie edition>spends all day lurking 4chanMust be sitting on a large Inheritance.
>>98860392You could literally get 12" rods of the stuff in basically any color for pretty cheap.
>>98860507That is literally Yvraine's backstory so yes, obviously.
>>98860577I wonder what Yvraine’s feet smell like
>>98860552Would you mind telling me what faction you play if it’s not too much trouble? Not starting trouble I’m just curious.
>>98860582Guilliman's cock, we've been over this.
>>98860586I know but I just really like feet :^)
>>98860584FINALLY! something on topic. orks.
>>98860592Okay very cool, most Ork players seem really even keel and genuine in their responses so we’re good mate.
>>98860592ECKSDEE
>>98860577I thought she just retreated to Commorragh and then joined up with a wych cult and wasnt a slave?
>>98860601As far as I know, no. None of the annoying 40kg shitposters are in the server since you have to actually own models and want to participate in good faith with the hobby
>>98858726>>98859927>strike force marcelloslmao had my very first game vs. that box. I tabled my opponent hard with the GSC combat patrol, I think only my Magus died. Rockgrinder ate the Agressors, aberrants killed the infiltrators and the Librarian was left alone in the end. GSC combat patrol was too good, the game was totally unbalanced but was a good introduction to the rules for me.
>>98860624how does the acolyte squad with the mixed loadout work? always wondered about that with combat patrols
>>98860601>>98860608Nah, I'm not in any of the 40kg discords.I mainly just use that to play games with my irl friends
i wish i was a thread primarch :)
>>98860480Bikes without a second thought
>>98860630It just works like it's in the datasheet. Acolytes were divided into two separate datasheets with the codex and in the Index they were a single unit.
I'm looking for STLs on the good stuff.No proxies, no half assed scans. I'm talking about high quality STL files for only the multi part kits which would allow you to build twice the amount of minis.Specifically, this one from Necron Immortals. Anone have a good place to for them?
>>98860674you cannot find these things just by asking for them, you're several years too late for that
What the dog doing
>>98860626you can either join and post in the confirmation channel or post a pic of your models with timestamp in the threads
>>98860673Jeez demo chargers were way better back then, even the mining tools were better at taking out teq
>>98860624Did you end up finishing your 5 tacos or is that a different gsc anon? I get you two mixed up for some reason
>>98860566or rich parents
>>98860740I have a friend like that. Sometimes I get jealous. Then other times I'm reminded that struggle builds character.
How would I paint my 'reens in a cool and messy way, like they're in the middle of battle? Not only will this look better but any sloppiness can be excused as dude battle damage lmao or dude weathering or something
>>98860787You mean chipping? You can be deliberate with chipping. Or grab a sponge and lightly dab the corners with the desired colour. Usually a dark brown.
>>98860787A simple battle damage recipe is small chips of any dark brown. Deeper cuts get a large chip of white. The DEEPEST cuts get a chip of dark brown, white, and a little silver in the middle.Also, if you use terrain stuff, don't forget to dab a little on the legs and anything hanging close to the ground
>>98860794>>98860795Not necessarily battle damage, but the actual paint job being battle worn and messy, rather than the usual regal look they have
>>98860798If you want to "grimdark" it you just slop on a oil paint then grab a makeup sponge and clean the excess.
>>98860798You mean like an in-field ersatz camo job?
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God I wish I saved that image for ideas for World Eaters. It was an AoS Blades of Khorne battletome that had ideas.
Don't forget, you're here forever
>>98860835beautiful first post
I hope you guys painted models in the past 21 hours
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>>98860857Do it for her
>>98860480Bikes and it's not close.
>>98858367Has to be Blood Angels, at least in terms of going from great to shit. They got a couple passable character sculpts in Dante, Meph and Astorath but that's really it. Sanguinor could be worse but he's small and hasn't been playable in a while. Lemartes got a dogshit pose and has a ballgag. Sanguinary Guard are OG Sigmarine tier. Their DC units got wiped out with only a couple pieces on an overpriced upgrade sprue. Their unique dread got squatted, the other given to everybody. Their sang priest is almost indistinguishable from regular apothecaries. Their unique captain doesn't come with a jumpack and has a dogshit pose for adding one and minimal flair. Their unique chaplain got the Furioso treatment with Armageddon. Their unique predator is almost certainly going to get the Furioso treatment when those get released. They have no real unique unit kit to speak of outside of the Sang Guard which sits just above fucking Coteaz in unpopularity of the sculpt.So they lost three pretty well loved characters, three unique dreads, their great standard infantry kit, their DC kits and their terminators. The sculpts for Lemartes, the Sanguinary Guard and the Sang Priest are all varying levels of shit. The only redeeming quality is their top character models aren't bad but they're not making up for the rest of it.For the rest of the list EC got a good refresh but need more fleshing out. DE and GK need refreshes that they'll eventually get which may or may not be good. Their raped status is pending. Agents exists just as a repository for random Imperial units GW feels like making and has never really been a real army. I don't care about daemons as a faction and can't comment. BA got it the worst because there's no real room for redemption, for all the others there's still at least hope. At best GW will throw them an actual Death Company kit. Otherwise everything is only a few years old so it won't get touched for another six to eight at least. They're fucked.
