First to praise Blake!

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What kind of a light/medium mech would fit into a merc company as salvage? Roughly thinking around clan invasion time frame to shortly after. Don't want anything too crazy/unrealistic, but it would still be a lucky situation for the company.

What would be a realistic set of 3 mechs to run with it? Just want to paint up a believable lance for display.

Thinking Rifleman / Wolverine / Thunderbolt

Pic related?

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>>98860874
>Wolf's Dragoons edition
As a side note putting a pilot with cautious + patient edge abilities into this thing is downright mean.

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>>98860971
If they fought the falcons then the shit fox is a very likely find.
Which invasion theater did the mercs fight in? That's a good place to start.

>>98861052
I guess you missed it.>>98834934
I came around to your argument after thinking about it for a bit.

>>98860971
Wasps and Stingers are the most available mechs. Any mercs can get their hands on one.

>>98860971
2 Locusts or a Phoenix Hawk

Since the Wasp and Stinger are so similar, it should be possible to Phoenix Hawkify the Wasp chassis.

>>98862095
Call it the Hawk Wasp.

i played my first game of battletech alpha strike two days ago after shilling it to a friend and it was so much fun. could someone please help me understand a few of the rules?
am i correct in my assumption that shooting out of woods does not give the attacker a +1 mod if the woods are only within 2" of him?
does this 2" rule impact how the 6" of wood to block LOS are calculated, or is 6" always 6"?
does partial cover always go two ways for attacker and target or is it possible to shoot out of cover while not being affected by it yourself?
how do vantage points work? is it possible to jump on a high building to use the angle of the roof to receive partial cover while shooting down freely?

>>98862095
>leg missiles
The big Wasp is the Crusader.

>>98862439
>>98862121
>>98862095
Would a 45 tonner Wasp/Hawk Wasp run:
>LL, SRM-6
or
>LL, ML, SRM-4
or
>LL, 2 SLs, SRM-4
or
>PPC, SRM-2
This is assuming 8 tons of armor but everything else remains the same besides an increased tonnage and the changes that come from it

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HONOR THE DRAGON!

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In the ilClan era do the Clans still have their ceremonial uniforms?

Or did that disappear with Stackpole?

>>98860971
Shadow Hawk if you really hate the person that has to pilot it. Generally any of the more ubiquitous designs.

>>98862486
>LL, ML, SRM-4
Something like this would be my choice, with both lasers in the right arm and the SRM-4 in the left hip.

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This may be cringe, but what "dad rock" and adjacent songs would work on a hypothetical BattleTech movie soundtrack?

>>98863255
If there's ever one, they'd better use All Along the Watchtower somewhere, but Elvis has been mentioned in canon.

But the most natural answer here would be Southeast Asian 'Nam era rock music.

>pipisi

>>98863445
>peepussy

>>98861194
Noted. William will start taking some long shots.

Weird character concept for the Holiday:

Clan mechwarrior who, in his free time, is an avid occultist. Goes out of his way to collect and study all things esoteric. Even paints a seal of Solomon on his Thor because of course he pilots a damn summoner as a “just in case” precaution, usually under the guise of being a “personal emblem”. Then following Tukayyid, upon learning that ComStar is functionally a cult within the inner sphere, makes it his latest campaign to learn all their secrets, and in the process become a general nuisance for ComStar. And no, I would never suggest that the character’s interest ever be “validated”.

2 questions:
1: how terrible is the concept? I mean beyond the general: “Battletech takes itself way too seriously to entertain such a goofy concept”
2: which Clan would he most likely come from? Or at least would be the least surprising?

>>98864193
1. Terrible
2. Nova Cat

>>98864193
Also look up The One Star faith.

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>>98863255
>>98863421
Jungle Work is the quintessential mercenary theme song.

>>98864337
Also the Believers of St Cameron, at least some of whom believe that their prophesied apocalypse is still coming and the clans are definitely involved somehow (average day to day "cultural" Believers think that it was the Amaris coup into succession wars and now they're past it). The cloisterers are busy making seed vaults on uninhabited moons and preparing their doomsday brian castles, but the templars are actively ready to fight the end of civilization, with a vibrosword if necessary.

>>98864384
Reminder that Tom Lehrer made the definite Taurian/Bolan Theme song.

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>>98862818
>In the ilClan era do the Clans still have their ceremonial uniforms?
i'm pretty sure that stuff was jettisoned a long time ago

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>>98862818
>>98865249

They wear all that shit all through the Dark Age into the ilClan. Malvina Hazen screaming at the Jade Falcon Loremaster with both in ceremonial garb during the Falcon Civil War in A Rending of Falcons is peak clantardation.

Then, there was Kisho Nova Cat traveling in Heretic's Faith in his full leather getup, and beating the shit out of a spacer for daring to charge him passage like a filthy merc.

Now, just like CGL tries to downplay the Blackout now, and the downsides of clan culture, they're trying to downplay the furry craziness. It's still there. Oh, and clanners using IS names for chassis way more than clan names.

>>98865292
>clanners using IS names for chassis way more than clan names
Stravag!

>>98865307
It's Deculture!

>>98865307
The true clans died in the wars of reaving.
Only misshapen halfbreed abominations remain.

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>>98865313
>It's Deculture!
DECULTURE!

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>>98865331
Good.

The IS will absorb those fuckers over time until the only thing clan-like about them is them yelling themed slurs at each other online.

>>98863018
>>98862486
We really need a 55 tonner penis hawk.
A light engine or cxlfe 6/9/6 with maximum armour and one heavy energy weapon, and supporting anti tank, anti toad srm/laser sets. Because the PH deserves to be in the 55t sweet spot.

>>98865331
>The true clans died in the wars of reaving.
please don't remind me of the absolute retardation of the wars of reaving

>>98860971
Kit Fox and Adder are the single most common light Mechs in Clan Green Birb and Clan Woof, respectively.

Fire Moths for Clan Spoopy Bear and Mist Lynxes for Clan Puff Kitty.

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>>98865933
*Autistic screeching*

>>98865933
Have you tried not taking the lore so seriously?

>>98866010
>have you just tried being completely apathetic towards the things you like

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What are the chances of a Darkcaste willingly working with Sphereoids to get revenge against the Clans?

>>98866038
They're effectively clanner pirates so I don't see why they would turn down an opportunity.

>>98866017
If you can’t laugh at your own fandom’s absurdity, it’s time to log off and touch grass. You don’t want to end up like Chris Chan do you?
this learned from having Star Wars and Star Trek among my beloved settings, you gotta learn to just laugh when the clown shoes come out, and just disregard lore you find disagreeable

>>98866052
"Not taking it seriously" is just another way of saying "stop caring".
I don't interact with things that I don't care about, I have more important things to spend my time on than things I don't care about.

>>98866052
You should consider how many of us have washed our hands of Star Wars, Star Trek, Dr. Who, Lord of the Rings and more before you comment on the last fucking thing we care to follow. You really sound like some Johnny-come-lately, and not someone who has loved the franchise for over 30 years and keeps it as the last franchise to follow among the old titans.

>>98866052
While I agree with personally discarding writing you don't care for, chris chan wasn't wrong for taking his favorite things too serious. That's maybe the least of his flaws.

>>98866052
Chris Chan raped his mom and your issue with him is that his opinions on Sonic's arms are too strong?

>>98860874
Why is she so overdressed? She should be topless with a thong and boots, and maybe the gloves. Decision at Thunder Rifts is very clear that Mechwarriors fight in as little as possible if they don't have star league vintage cooling suits or clantech cooling fishnet body stockings.

Is CGL just telling artists to completely ignore canon now?

>>98866117
If youve been around bt for 30 years then it's time to get out and let the newer fans enjoy things

>>98866391
>We don't want the old reliable fans that keep things afloat. We want new different fans from a completely different demographic!
Ah yes, the classic way to kill a franchise.

Also,
>Stop liking things you've liked your whole life. You should have no say despite how much blood and sweat and treasure you've poured in. Give unwarrented credence to unreliable newfags!
Shame. Shame. This bait is basically fossilized.

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>>98865933
>please don't remind me of the absolute retardation of the wars of reaving
It hurt my heart, anon. Haven't been the same since.

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>>98866038
The same chance as terrorists / traitors / defectors working with the secret services
So very high but it will undoubtedly be a one sided relationship, with the houses dictating unfavorable terms for the dark caste as they have no other options than piracy left.

>>98866391
>let the newer fans enjoy things
This is marketing speak for "stop telling the young ones about the history of the slop we're peddling"
Laugh at this despicable creature trying to lead the youth astray.
Nothing an old fan can says will be damaging if there is nothing to hide.

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I know this is probably asked like every thread, but how do we feel about Iron Wind Metals?
I really fuck with this funky Griffin but at the price tag I just have to ask

>>98866383
That's obviously not official art.

>>98866689
The metals look nice enough, but at that price?
I'll stick to RPE.
Sure, they don't have a lot of the redesigns, but they'll sell me a metal Urbie for like six quid, and that's about right.

>>98866383
>if they don't have star league vintage cooling suits or clantech cooling fishnet body stockings.
If you look at her chest she's quite clearly wearing a cooling suit and being a Gooner she obviously has access to basic bitch SLDF gear since that stuff is second rate by clan standards.

>>98866689
IWM is great. Some of the old sculpts are a little weird (like the Nightstar), but most are great. The detail is great, the fact that you can get any variant is great.

...But they're expensive.

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>>98865735
>Because the PH deserves to be in the 55t sweet spot
Just get a IIC and go full 80t

>>98866689
If you live in Europe buy from RPE
The prices are like 40% of what the IWM prices are
I just wish RPE had all new models
23 dollars for a singular heavy gauss sturmfeur is just silly

>>98866688
It's always been slop boomer-kun

>>98866010
The IP isn't directly owned by Disney/Time Warner yet, so one proud Davionman kindly knocking on a door can still exert his corrective influence on the universe.

>>98866689
They used to be cheaper. A lot cheaper. And then they were bought by CGL. CGL said they were only going to raise prices by 15%, but they never said how many times they would raise it by 15%.

>>98866915
Everyone used to dunk on the Fedsuns, but now we can only rely on them to make real change possible

>>98866701
>Goons
>aren't gooners
Fuck this gay Terra, we can't have SHIT in the inner sphere

>>98866391
No, you faggots don't know how to enjoy things the right way
>t. zoomer lmao

>>98867171
>we can't have SHIT in the inner sphere
The innersphere is Russia after day 97887 of the two week special military operation to reclaim Terra.

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So, turns out you can take all the lasers out of a Royal Locust and turn it into the most annoying thing ever.

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>>98868125
I want my
I want my
I want my PPC

>>98866383
Anon was jerking it a little typing this out

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Finally finished up the game of 8 billion tanks our group had going; the highlight of the game was probably the Cyclops dying in the most dramatic fashion. He tried to stop-drop-and-roll to dislodge the battle armor that were swarming him, when he flung himself into the ground, squished one of the Salamanders in the process, and set off his remaining ammo and exploded the entire mech. The resulting blast ALSO killed the rest of the Salamanders, but he died without getting to shoot that turn since he didn’t live to see the weapon attack phase.

The Devastator almost had a similarly dramatic finish, he got knocked down and took a nap next to the Kingfisher (only half a mech but still plenty dangerous at this point) and got his torso cracked open via aimed shots; then about 16 LBX pellets hit him square in the chest. I think he took like 9 CT crits in that turn, but the roll for the Stackpole explosion came up short so he died quietly instead of loudly.

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>>98865331
If the clans didn't want to die then why did they attack MY HOME PLANET?

>>98868680
But it was only the clans that didn't attack MY HOME PLANET that died.

>>98862534
That hunchie has sick art.

>>98865933
>let's write ourselves into a hole where half our factions can't ever be even vaguely relevant ever again

I play Alpha Strike at a local store and decided to printed some Elementals to ride on my omnimechs and I'm genuinely shocked at how good they can be. I had my Adders print through cover near the objective and spent all game jumping and harassing the enemy tanks. I'm an Inner Sphere boy at heart though, what are some good variants of Battle Armor I could pick up?

At least the clanners get to come back when they get destroyed. If you you liked Comstar/WoB CGL tells you in no uncertain terms to go fuck yourself they are not coming back. The even revived them to kill them again.

>>98869029
It's almost like CCG thinking in a way. "There's too many factions, let's cull some for the next set" was a very common thing for all the games that were trying to dethrone MtG before they all crashed and burned.

>>98869033
I've never played them, only fought against them, but the inner sphere standard guys are the same annoying armor peeling hoppers that are JUST armored enough to not get one-tapped

>>98869033
I only play CBT but I've had a lot of good use from the magnetic variant of the Longinus. They've got a machine gun, a heavy machine gun, and an AP mount gun, which means they absolutely shred regular infantry and still have enough volume of fire to do real (if scattered) damage to armored enemies.
And they have mag clamps so they don't even need to find an omnimech to hitch a ride.

>>98869302
I play CBT as well, but mostly Lance v Lance or a mini-campaign with a group of players where we each play 1 or 2 mechs. They seem pretty nice for urban maps but 0 medium or long damage I'll definitely have to play them as ambush or anti-vehicle/infantry. Just enough damage to pop most elementals in one attack.

>>98869159
It's not even like they have game balance to worry about. Writing multiple factions out of interstellar conflict in your setting designed to sell models for a space war game is like they just decided to saw off one of their own limbs. Absolutely demented decision.

>>98869159
I don't mind factions losing out if it makes for a great story, but killing so many so quickly just felt ham-fisted. Plus, what about the factions that are supposed to still be alive in the Homeworlds? Fuck them too, I guess.

>>98869549
There's not even diverent model lines like dwarf or elves or humans, only thing they have to do is produce some art and splat every now and then to keep a faction alive on the setting.

>>98869137
WoB was too chudcoded

>>98869137
Religious factions aren't allowed sweetie, that's problematic.

>>98866010
calm down, anon

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Anyone know where I might be able to find this Arrow IV demolisher file? Yeggi says its on cults but the link seems to be a dead end. Not sure who the creator is
https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/arrow-iv-demolisher

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What is the CUTEST clan mech?

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>>98869949
He's just a little guy.

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Can someone give me a quick rundown of these guys?

>>98869813
The designer, @HeadspaceUM, apparently took it down from Cults3D. I am probing around if i can get the stl.

>>98869949
Fire Moth's retarded arms were always endearing to me

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>>98869949
Jenner IIC

>>98870073
Guy on the right is Thomas "The Master" Marik, who joined ComStar and was injured in an attack. His brother Duncan was Captain-General until he was killed, then Thomas returned from ComStar to become the new Captain-General.
Except the "Thomas" who returned was a plant sent by ComStar to put someone sympathetic to their cause in charge of a nation state. No one really knows who that "Thomas" was, but he turned into a pretty solid leader of the Free Worlds League after several periods of civil war and turmoil.
Flash forward to the dissolution of the Second Star League. The Word of Blake, who were set to become some sort of provisional member, were pissed that they were denied their glory. The real Thomas, who had become an absolute fanatic and joined the Word when they split from ComStar, turned the Word loose on the Inner Sphere in what became known as the Jihad. Chaos and hilarity ensue in equal measure.
Meanwhile, the fake "Thomas" is revealed to be a fraud, and the FWL basically splits apart because of it. "Thomas" becomes known as Thomas Halas (taking his wife's maiden name) and takes refuge in the Duchy of Oriente. Still a respected leader, he helps fight the Word as best he can.
Meanwhile our boy Victor Steiner-Davion, fresh on the heartbreak of his Kuritan love's murder, draws close to and eventually marries Thomas Halas' daughter Isis. This leads to the creation of the Davion-Marik family line.
The actual, original Thomas is reportedly killed along with the bulk of the Word of Blake when the Prinicipality of Regulus decides to glass Circinus in nuclear fire in retribution for the Word's attacks.

>>98870266
Nope, sorry, switch that. Guy on the LEFT is the Master. Guy on the RIGHT is "Thomas. My bad.

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>>98866689
The price of tin went up 2.5x during the recovery from the pandemic, dropped back down, and is back up there again. (Globally, which suggests it's more supply & demand than policy-driven.) Wages and rent have stayed up as well. Manufacturing in the US is expensive, and making miniatures out of metal doesn't work anymore.

It's what's it's.

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https://www.mediafire.com/file/167dt0ihunv7ull/Demolisher+Alt+23+(UMF).zip/file

Here you have Anon. The designer sadly died during the war in Ukraine.

>>98870266
Thomas and Thomas were parent trapping the entire inner sphere. Early on they were swapping back and forth all the time, but real Thomas spent more and more time doing Comstar things until eventually he just stopped showing up entirely and False Thomas was left to his own devices. He wasn't even clued in on wob stuff, there were several Wobstar events that he assumed were part of a plan and avoided interfering in, but didn't actually know anything about. It was only when the Jihad broke out that he fully stopped trying to play ball with them.

>>98870334
You would think the guy tasked with pretending to be a house lord so the real house lord can go get indoctrinated at will would be some sort of fanatical ROM super agent, but all indications point to his marching orders being very loose and his actual intention being to govern as if he was really Thomas.

>>98870332
>The designer sadly died during the war in Ukraine.
Good. Death to unlicensed IP thieves, CGL uber alles!

>>98870357
It was something like 35 years before he stopped taking orders. He may well have been a fanatic at the start, but 3035 ROM was a very different beast than 3070 WoBROM, and of course he had spent most of his life living as a house lord.

Do most people accept custom mechs in games as long as they’re built right? Should I even bother?

>>98866689
Almost the entire miniatures industry is trying to get out of metal production because costs are through the roof.

>>98871249
As long as you run it by your opponent first and aren't a complete faggot about the build, you should be able to convince someone. Keep it to one custom unless you're doing a campaign though, and give your opponent the chance to run one in return.

>>98871249
Depends on your group. The only people in my area who try to run customs are munchkins, so everyone else are pretty leery of customs.

>small arms
It's a crying fucking shame that big stompy robots (unjustly) get so much attention, because the personal weapons in Battletech are superb, in both quantity and quality, (except the Federated Long Rifle) and they get zero attention.

>>98871327
>customs
Should be completely discarded unless you are playing Solaris, because holy shit that's the whole purpose of competition.

>>98871329
The level abstraction of CBT is high enough that individual models of small arms shouldn't matter. Even mech scale weapons don't get that level of abstraction. Thats the realm of Mechwarrior or battletroops, which are more niche.

>>98871338
I'm talking about a "Shadowrun" level of scale, a fuckton of the original books happen at the individual level, and the thought of a uberpilot getting shot in the face with a needler over a mechbunny is delicious.

>>98871249
The campaign I'm currently in allows one custom variant for your commander, subject to approval from the GM. Our general pickup games don't have any customs at all most of the time. The only times I've seen them come out otherwise was one time someone arranged a game specifically to be able to put some customs on the table and one time where we made frankenmechs and set up an arena fight.

>>98871249
>as long as they’re built right
The chances are that if you have built your customs "right" then you could probably just find an existing mech that does exactly what you want. The only way you can do it correctly is by intentionally gimping a mech or vehicle design in one way or another.

The consequences of Youtuber tourists telling people that Battletech's main draw is the customizability of the robutts has been a disaster.

>>98871568
>The consequences of the publication of Maximum Tech has been a disaster.
FTFY

>>98871329
Play the RPG then, that's what all that shit was made for

>>98871329
The Zeus heavy rifle being absurdly powerful always tickles me

>>98871723
>>98871329
Battletechnology enjoyers have to eventually face the fact that laser weapons and rocket grenade launchers make for terrible self-defense weapons.

>>98871249
just avoid boating pulse lasers and quirks like low profile. it breaks BV.

>>98871757
Or I could make like the Taurians and arm my militia with rifles that hit harder than 20mm cannons of today.

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>>98869949
im a sucker for fighter jet like torsos

>>98871784
obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G88ZTO1RXRs

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whats /btg/'s opinion on CGL art designs vs PGI re-designs?