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Vozhd

>>98863643

https://strawpoll.com/05Zdz2VQbn6/results

So why Theurges? They seem the most specialized in that all their shit is Spirit Realm focused mainly.

>>98863689
Niggas do just wanna be like
>zzap muthafacka

>>98863689
for a lot of people spirit stuff and the umbra is the selling point behind both werewolf and mage + it's the wizard auspice and wodg loves it's occultists slash spellcasters

>>98863689
The spirit world is fun, and being able to navigate it is practical. The character I'll be playing in my group's upcoming Werewolf game is a former marine who's specialized in stepping sideways, so I definitely want to utilize this ability in combat to give the ST a headache as he has to pay attention to both realspace and the neighboring penumbra. Also a theurge has low rage, which allows your character to exist in society with anyone who isn't a spineless vermin.

>>98863689
Theurges are wizards and spirits and the spirit world can affect the mortal world so they pretty much in a round about way can affect everything. not helped by the fact that the books even point out that they can steal gifts from other gift lists by messing or bribing spirits so they draw both powergamers and people interested in the cosmos

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>>98863689
While I haven't played Woof, I tried creating a couple characters. Expected the Ahroun rip n tear experience to have more interesting gifts than flat and simple mechanical bonuses like resistances or intimidates or damage type buffs at least until highest ranks. Rabagash I expected more teleports, dodges, and illusions but it's more of a thieves' kit. Theurges get access by default to all sorts of interesting Rituals even if they're more demanding to play

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Which Clans, Tribes, and Traditions/Conventions would you say are the most Timmy, Johnny, and Spike?

For those unfamiliar with MTG/TCG design, that is type of players that prefer respectively Big Dumb Things, Creative and Interesting Combos, or Metafagging with Optimal Options.

Man, I feel stretched pretty thin atm.

I was the Storyteller for my friend group’s game, and I’m also writing one one-shot story and another longer one.

On top of that, I’m working as a substitute teacher at a high school for 13–18-year-olds, teaching them math, chemistry, physics, and even lab work.

Fuuucck.

>>98863689
Ahroun is just extra rip-and-tear. All it does is make a werewolf better at what a werewolf is already good at doing, killing shit. For some people this is a good thing as Werewolf is the killing-shit game and it's fun to double-down on the combat focus, but for others it's redundant.
Ragabash occupies a weird space where its social role as the omega of the pack is almost given more attention than the stealthy aspect of it and even then, who wants to play a stealthy guy in the rip-and-tear killing-shit game that is Werewolf?
Philodox has strange flavour as a socially-focused role, it's not about charismatic leadership or domination of lesser wills, it's about interpreting a complicated legal system, ensuring that the pack stays true to it and punishing others for breaking the rules. It's awkward, especially for newer players.
Galliard is in the same situation, where it's a socially-focused role with a narrow niche that only really cares about sharing stories of the past and of other Garou. It's a bit of a cuck role in that it cares more about what other werewolves have accomplished than anything that the Galliard themself has done and can do.
The Theurge is the spirit expert in a game where the enemy is ultimately spiritual rather than physical, not only are they mechanically best suited for fighting the most important enemy of the Garou, but they also have the most importance when it comes to lore as they're the only ones with the understanding of the Umbra required to win any meaningful victories.

It's no surprise that the wizard auspice and the fighter auspice are on top, when the other three are defined by their weird social roles. Not even CofD fixes this, as the Elodoth and Cahalith auspices maintain the weirdness of the Philodox and Galliard even if the Ragabash is fixed by being made the stealth auspice first and foremost.

>>98864419
The sad reality is that this can only be solved by stripping away the weird flavour and boiling the auspices down to very basic roles. If the Ahroun is the fighter and the Theurge is the wizard, the Ragabash should be the rogue with no omega-of-the-pack bullshit, the Philodox should be the party face with no judge-of-the-litany bullshit, and the Galliard should be the cleric and support role with no storyteller-and-lorekeeper bullshit.

>>98864333
>Big Dumb Things
Hermetics
>Creative and Interesting Combos
Hermetics
>Metafagging with Optimal Options.
Hermetics

>>98864405
Prioritize. Focus on one story at a time on the writing front (whichever you feel more inspired by) and bang it out, at least in rough draft form, before you start another.

As for work, unironically work less hard and save that energy for your creative outlets. You're a substitute, one day of glorified study hall or a vaguely related to their studies T.V. isn't going to ruin those kids (probably mediocre already, no offense) education.

Lastly, if you need to take a hiatus of a few weeks or even a month from being ST, take it. It's helped me when I'm feeling the burn-out before.

>>98864419

I mean, Ragabash are kinda saved by also being the Ranger of the group in addition to the Rogue.

Galliard is the main weird one in being at face the Werewolf Bard, but with all the party face stuff better handled by the Philodox who is more direct about it. The Galliard is mainly there just as support.

>>98863517
How does one go about courting a spirit anyway?
>>98863689
When you examine how popular Tremere and Tzimisce are, and how Theurges generally get the most space to be nebulously unhinged and amoral with how they barter and use spirits or magic, it kind of makes sense. In essence they're the least jocky-Garou as well

>>98864333
>Power Gamer
Any type of Mage
>Combo Autist
Probably some variant of Garou or Changeling who swears this combination of niche techniques from an obscure rulebook let them solo an Ante
>Metafag
Tremere and it isn't even close.

>>98864419
>The Omega of the pack
I know what this references, but I can't help but think about Kengan Omega

>>98864583

https://strawpoll.com/NPgxeJK9KZ2/results

Well, specifically, people are big on the Order of Hermes itself here.

Which makes this general just seem like the shadow battleground of the Tzimsce and Tremere, its true.

>>98863689
>18 votes
What happened to the other 12 these polls usually got?

>>98864614
>5 factions of dog got votes that could have gone to fighting the Crypto-Tremere domination of the board
I'm disappointed, back in the silver cages for you lot.

>>98864636
4chan got nuked quite hard, maybe anons still haven't come back

>>98864333
>Timmy
Tzimisce wins for Vampire because of its big flashy focal Discipline, Vicissitude.
The Get of Fenris wins for Werewolf because it goes all-in on the killing-shit side of the game.
The Void Engineers win for Mage because they have the biggest and most obvious accomplishments, if you believe their propaganda.
>Johnny
Ventrue wins for Vampire because of the clan's absolute mastery of social Disciplines, which makes it unparalleled at NPCs into assets in a variety of different ways.
Glass Walkers win for Werewolf because it does all of the things that other tribes do but in the one area that almost other tribes are incapable of interacting with, which is tech shit, which they can use to accomplish all sorts of crazy stuff other tribes are incapable of.
Virtual Adepts win for Mage because of their "scientific" approach to magic which allows them to incorporate other paradigms into their own, so they can perform all sorts of magic without being limited by what they believe in.
>Spike
Tremere win for Vampire because of full access to all of Thaumaturgy which has more subcategories than there are Disciplines in the game and because their clan weakness can effectively be ignored if the ST doesn't make the regnant an asshole.
Uktena win for Werewolf because they get the excuse of being able to mess with shadowy shit that aligns with the Wyrm while still claiming to be good guys, they an still get in trouble with NPCs but it's the only real justification for playing a Garou who gets to mess with the Wyrmish third of the Triat.
Syndicate win for Mage because money is seen as a cheat code that can accomplish almost everything that any Sphere can do at any amount of dots and if magic is really necessary, they can augment it with their vast amounts of money and then use magic to recoup any financial losses.

>>98864641

I'll have you know the local /wodg/ pack is six werewolves.

-Bone Gnawer
-Get of Fenris
-Glass Walker
-Red Talon
-Silver Fang
-Stargazer

And statistically, with 2 of those being Theurges.

I think either the Tzimmis or Tremeres might be in for a bad time.

>>98864738
>tfw red talon and get theurges and stargazer ahroun

>>98864738
>>98864828

I'm the sole Silver Fang. I'll take the Galliard role since its least popular and my derangements tell me to.

Anyone got stats for a spider spirit? I’m supposed to set up a big boss fight this Saturday for my W20 group. They’re entering the Umbra to defeat a trapped Weaver spirit (and its thousands of small to very large spider younglings) that put a whole caern to sleep/mind control.

So far every kinfolk safe one little girl died, because their zombiefied minds couldn’t enter the umbra and survive the harsh winter. The garou are starving and trapped in webs inside the Spider’s lair.

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>>98864597
At least it's not the other fictional thing that comes to mind when you mention Omega these days.

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>>98864641
>5 Tzimisce Votes, 0 Tremere votes
>Even literal whos like Daughters of Cacophony, Salubri, and Baali got a vote
Your foul stolen unlives end now, Usurpers.
>>98864587
>>Combo Autist
>Probably some variant of Garou or Changeling who swears this combination of niche techniques from an obscure rulebook let them solo an Ante
I'm pretty sure there were some posts a while back describing just that for a Get of Fenris Gift that allows you to not die until your target is dead. And yeah, not sure about Dreaming, but Lost Contracts seem to be designed for precisely that.
>>98864442
Damn Hermetics, they ruined the Order of Hermes
>>98864662
I appreciate the effort in your post anon. Completely agree Tremere Spikehood since Rituals+Paths let you cover anything you might want more so than Koldunism/Necromancy/Akhu. Not a woof playe but weren't Stargazers a pretty Spike choice for wolves too? Heard Kalin-Do was busted to LARP as John Talbain

>>98864858
I was very, very close to listing Stargazers as tied with the Uktena for Spike, since I recall them being able to circumvent all of the downsides of Rage, but I couldn't find the Gifts responsible for that on a whim, so I decided against mentioning them.

>>98864442
Like, I am not joking, summoning gods or sending timed nuke right into enemy stronghold from across dimensions is not something out there, its literally shit they can achieve with their core rotes.

>>98864841
There are multiple spider spirits. Check out Book of The Weaver pages 69-73 and pick which one fits best.

>>98864636
I don't know enough about them to vote so I won't

>>98864738
>Be Get Theurge
>Have to autistically woo the spirits by deadlifting the rest of my harem
Spirits are fucking bullshit.
>>98864840
I'm not sure how I feel about a sister-fucking cultist singing the tales of our deeds

>>98864910
>I'm not sure how I feel about a sister-fucking cultist singing the tales of our deeds
That's right, can't trust like that. Then again, not like the others are any good. Would you work with someone who fucks dogs, is a master jew or has sold their soul to the weaver? You can only trust yourself.

>>98864587
>>98864858
CtD Anniversary has a power that temporarily revives people, which should technically turn an ante into a normal mortal, so theoretically a Dreamling can beat an ante with primroses and a baseball bat.

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>>98863689
all the theurge votes are from vampirefags, all the real garoubros know the real way to play is to channel the masculine urge to shift into crinos and awoooooo out with your bros (no homo)

>>98864970
Any CtD 20 Changeling can unleash with "Destroy that big mean Vampire" and there's nothing they can do about it.

>>98864999
Im a vampirefag and I voted for Philodox.

>>98865002
This is why you need to pay your Ravnos to bully them with Chimerstry.

>>98864957
Fucking wolves is different from fucking dogs though. More honor that way.

>>98864999
I'll awoo with you (after dealing with my spirit harem)

>>98864999
My first vote went to Ahroun

>>98864738
And the 40ish people that voted on the werewolf exclusive poll are the local sept: the legion of the four leaf clover, holding the eponymous caern.

Originally a Fianna caern, though the Get hold the strongest current population, they are routinely outvoted by the politically dominant City-Wolf coalition. As a result, the proud Get have to cozy up with the somehow impressive red talon presence to get their edicts through at the chaotic moots.

The Legion routinely clashes with the local hermetics, tziggers and tremere who keep fucking up the local everything with their sorcery much to the chagrin of well, .. everybody.

add more lore, let's make a funny 4chan sept

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>>98864858
Angels to some, Fiends to others.

>>98865182
There is one Stargazer, no one knows where he came from, he doesn't vote, no one's sure if he even speaks English, but he's definitely there

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>>98865182
>And the 40ish people that voted on the werewolf exclusive poll are the local sept

Does that make me an honorary Bone Gnawer or am I still a 5 dot pure breed Silver Fangs kinfolk?

>>98865287
Five dot Pure Breed Bone Gnawer Kinfolk, the truest hobo.

Forsaken went well last night. A shorter session than normal, but we packed in some revelations and development so all's good.

The PCs spoke with their Totem, which had been wounded by the blighting of the Hisil in the last session. They asked it about the Host they're hunting, and it told them to go ask someone else while it slept off its damage. The PCs sought out Crafty Vermin, a carrion spirit that they've dealt with previously. In exchange for Essence, it inferred that the Hosts were kin to the Uratha, pretenders that sought to impose their law on the Hisil. The Pure are pretty cool about that, and it's why Spirits are happier to help them than they are the Forsaken.

The PCs then went to their Vampire contact, a Ventrue named Dominic Hauler. The man's a bit of an idiot, but the PCs don't know that. They sought out his house, and split up. Dolly, our Cahalith, wandered off and got a dramatic failure, getting found by his Ghouls. Baz and Stray, Rahu and Irraka respectively, elected to kick in the back door of the Vampire's haven. This started a big row, in which Dominic managed to pass his Frenzy check and barely managed to keep his shit together. Dolly was brought back by his Ghouls, and the two parties began to barter. Baz loudly shouted that he "had to break the door down", and Dolly attempted to smooth things other.

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>>98865244
>Angels to some
to fucking who?

>>98865317
They told Dominic about the Host, and asked if he had any contacts in smuggling hounds. It is 1980 after all. Framing it as an olive branch, he told the PCs about some dog-fights that he is involved with. The PCs went along with him to one that was conveniently happening that night.

At a farm outside Southminster, a dozen or so men and women gathered to bet on dogs of all sizes and breeds, trapped in rickety metal cages. Fear spirits tormented the hounds, and in the Hisil, the Hosts waited outside, baying for blood. The PCs saw one cage in the corner, a small Irish terrier, bucking and thrashing. It had a seizure before the PCs very eyes, and they watched as its body broke and cracked, twisting and swelling into the shape of a wolf. As moonlight crept through the window, the new wolf vanished with a pop, slipping into the Hisil to join its new kin.

We left the session there as it was getting late. But next week the PCs want to look into the Pure in town, believing them to be responsible for the blighting of the Hisil. They're barking up the wrong tree unfortunately, but they don't know that just yet.

>>98865182

I'm more curious about the 1 retarded pack we have that is stuck in the middle of the complex Tzimisce vs Order of Hermes conflict that defines this general.

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>>98865304
Bone Gnawers cant purchase Pure Breed, anon.

>>98865407
Its not purchased, its obtained through other means.

>>98865287
You are like the Sam Haight of the Legion. A horror story of what happens if you leave normie kinfolk unattended. Consequently also the holy grail, all the retarded Get want to kill you to restore the honor of the sept. The actual story changes based on who tells it and how much liquor the Galliards have had before they start the tale.

>>98865407
It is, just requires Storyteller permission and a story constructed around it, since it's so out of the ordinary. The Pure Breed Bone Gnawer will get a lot of attention from other Garou for being potentially the first respectable BG to ever exist.

>>98865287
THE PACT OF THE CIGGIE PACK WITH SERVANT-OF-BAKERS STANDS STRONG. HOWL WITH ME, BROTHERS. AWOOOOOOOOOOO!

>>98865445
>the pack of the ciggie pack
the least retarded bonegnawers, everyone

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>>98865182
Are Black Spiral Dancers allowed if we’re “chill” and also kill other BSD? Though in the voting since BSD wasn’t there I picked Fianna. Can’t remember my Pure Breed tho. I think that I remember that it was high.

>>98865319
Some Ecstatics if we're going by Hellraiser logic.

>>98865283
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0PkDICYZukk&pp=ygUPU2ltcHNvbnMgeWFrdXph&ra=m

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>>98865319
To people who are into freaky body horror.

>>98865439
Do you automatically lose Pure Breed dots if you swap tribes to Bone Gnawer?

>>98865384
Nobody knows what wizards and vampires and wizard vampires have against each other. The Get postulate that there can only be so many effeminate men in faggy bathrobes in a single place.

A pack of the mightiest, wisest and most forward-thinking of theurges and ragabashes has been assembled to get to the bottom of this great mystery, and they have already brought forth impressive results that will surely shape the lore of Garou to come.

IMPRESSIVE REAL AND NOT FAKE (BUT POSSIBLY GAY) DISCOVERIES:
Human Wizards can NOT cast spells without their stupid little wands and bathrobes.They are CAPABLE of casting cool spells such as AWESOME FIREBALLS but IF they do magic, then it is gay and stupid magic that does not blow shit up. Their spiritual reflection in the Penumbra also SPARKLES. These combined factoids have led to the theory that wizards are powered by homosexuality, which leads credence to glasswalker claims that humans become wizards randomly upon reaching 30 years of age without any sex.

VAMPIRE WIZARDS are presumably just as autistic but our mighty Get Ragabashes have yet failed to bring back any actionable information. This is because they slaughter all Vampire Wizards on sight like the disgusting wyrmbeasts they are and forget to ask them any questions in the process. The methodology is being reworked as we speak. We might even have to ask the Starg*zer how to make the Get less ragetarded but all he says is OMMMMMMM or some shit, I don't speak chinese or whatever.

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>>98865319
this girl. even if they did it completely just for the novelty of it

>>98865384
>Tzimisce vs Order of Hermes
but the tzimisce and order of hermes are bros. because they hate the tremere

>>98865453
I'm sorry, I don't play werewolf. Would the Rite of the Ciggies have been more appropriate? I just found the Newports storyline of bakeslave's shitposting funny, thought it'd go well considering the Bone Gnawer Rite of The Pizza is an actual LV1 Rite of Accord in Werewolf.

>>98865182
Terrible outcome. Can't exactly drive property values down when you have to cover everything up.

>>98865319
To people that are into the whole "biblically accurate" thing?

>>98865439
>respectable bone gnawer
More like when you try to poach a high value employee from a shit company

>>98865598
>Least obvious Ragabash post
Never call me a Ragabash again you H*man-lover

>>98865599
The child is more likely to become some insane cultist into extreme kinks if they rescue her though. Logically though, a child's mind can't really comprehend the "pleasures" these guys offer so they aren't really appealing victims.

>>98865609
I'm sure they'd have a rite of the cig or some equivalent yes, even if it'd be a reworked rite of the pizza
The pack of cigs would likely just be a bunch of bone gnawers though

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>>98865736
oh yeah they aren't even hidding that this is long con recruitment

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>>98865751
and that's actually the entire short comic

>>98865754
Sloppy art (as in poorly made, not necessarily machine made), if she's getting roughed up as intensely as the story implies, why doesn't she have any visible bruises?

>>98865776
Because some abusers have the sense to aim for places covered by clothing.

>>98865776
that's actually a thing child abusers aim for by aiming mostly for stuff you don't see

>>98865781
dad does not look like the type to think things through that far ahead

>>98865786
you don't need to be a super genius for that anon. Trailer trash figured this out

>>98865751
>>98865754
iirc Cenobites only extend the conversion or recruitment to those who end up harboring deep malice and sadomasochism which could probably be seen within abuse victims much more frequently. Either way, abusers are definitely the type to summon or end up in a summon.
>>98865776
A majority of domestic abusers will avoid places that have more showy bruising like black eyes or anything that is harder to blame on an accident. Nevermind that abuse can be sexual or psychological in nature and not necessarily physically violent

>>98865786
>>98865792
As a Ryona enjoyer (who would never beat a woman iirl) there's a reason a majority of ryona consists of gutshots

>>98865468
Kill teaming is fine as long as you are not caught or get others to go along with.

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>>98865806
>iirc Cenobites only extend the conversion or recruitment to those who end up harboring deep malice and sadomasochism which could probably be seen within abuse victims much more frequently. Either way, abusers are definitely the type to summon or end up in a summon.

Those guys recruit from the souls trapped in hell so they are mostly people who opened the box willingly rather than bystanders. Sure, there is plenty of bullshit that triggers the box but that the gist of it if memory serves.

Anyway I had a picture that tied to those fuckers but I lost it so here's a generic goth.

>>98865599
Probably the reason I loved watching the OG Hellraiser was how there was a dreadful sense of there's more than what you can see.
Frank getting resurrected by blood magic was excellent but the fact he knew and demanded more added to the fact. He seemed like he really knew about the things beyond the veil and that made him more horrifying.
Of course, he still seemingly jumped at the box because someone told him about the """pleasure""" part of it and paid for doing so. But his character was god damn scary as he knew exactly what he was doing.
And the original manifesting of the Cenobites without all the Hell/Leviathan shit (great in its own sense but not here) was terrifying because you didn't know what they were really doing or where, all you saw was the torture and some black stone corridor with the Engineer in it. You didn't see the full picture which is fantastic fiction in my book.

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how the norse sidhe work

>>98865877
>Canonically making a Get seethe and mald (or worse)
Is sidhe the anti- Clover pack group?

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>>98865815
>As a Ryona enjoyer (who would never beat a woman iirl)
such a gentleman
>there's a reason a majority of ryona consists of gutshots
because one good hit can make em puke which further adds to the humiliation?

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>>98865428
I just wanted to bake bread!
>>98865439
>It is, just requires Storyteller permission and a story constructed around it
If we are going that route then could he be a moth kinfolk since he was reborn in a moth caern? It would explain why he has 5 dots of pure breed.
>>98865445
AWWOOOOOOOOO
>>98865468
The Pure Breed was related to when people were rolling for kinfolk. Though you could still take 5 since everyone else was allowed to. A pure breed White Howler is very impressive.
>>98865609
Honestly one of my favorite shitposts.

>>98865751
>>98865754
My ST uses an image of a Lament Configuration as the icon for our current chronical, but so far we've yet to see anything even remotely Hellraiser-ish.

>>98865895
Well yes but also damaging a woman's face is taboo and would lessen the appeal of the ryona as it's less of a contrast between intense brutality and feminine beauty

>>98865428
>>98865904
It's like the ginfolk situation all over again, except it's too late this time

>>98864424
So, Werewolf should be D&D?

>>98865965
Werewolf would be better with FATAL

>>98865182
Put Skin Dancer on the next poll. i will also accept "Soulsteel Ashtray"

>>98865776
They didn't see her ass.

>>98865904
>A pure breed White Howler
DaveB just had a heart attack.

>>98865990
Keep going, then.

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Rolled 1 + 3 (1d2 + 3)

>>98865827
That’s my garou!

>>98865904
I remember that I had it high. So I’ll leave it up to Fate (which Shark canonically has at 5). So I’ll roll 1d2+3.

Also Shark is inhabited by the spirit of White Howler themselves. And anytime we retrieve a piece of Anubis, Shark’s sire and the one who usurped White Howler’s body, we also strengthen White Howler. So in a way, Shark is “saving” the original White Howler tribe! Though once Anubis and WH are fully restored chances are WH is getting dunked forever, and their soul will be trapped forever in Anubis’ sceptre.

>>98866023
… when I decided to roll 1d2 I kinda assumed that I would get 5. I wanted 5 without attributing it to myself… even with training wheels I couldn’t get it and now I’m embarrassed.

>>98866059
Don't be sad
(Don't be sad~)
Cause 4 Dots of Breed ain't bad..

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>>98866107
B-bu-but I’m supposed to be the ultimate life form! I wanna be perfect! I wanna I wanna I wanna!

And like some inspiring bug guy quoting another guy said… “You’re either perfect, or you’re not me”

>>98865965
Auspices should be inspired by D&D classes, instead of being weird social roles that require research in order for new players to make sense of them. How is a new player supposed to make sense of playing a Philodox or a Galliard?
Higher degrees of nuance can come from the tribes, but auspices should be basic and rudimentary.

>>98866251
I gained rage from this post

>>98866251
The purpose of a Philodox in a pack is to make sure that the pack adheres to the Litany, to justify its deviations from the Litany to other Garou, and to use potential violations of the Litany as an attack vector in social conflicts with other Garou. Galliard is roughly just as bad, since its role is to inspire and guide the rest of the pack with stories of other Garou, and to bolster the pack's collective renown with stories in social situations with other Garou, and to use historical precedent as justification for the pack's actions and an attack vector against other Garou. Both roles are borderline unplayable for new players still getting to grips with the setting and Ragabash is almost as bad with the whole omega trickster vibe and having to balance being the bottom-of-the-rung bitch and knowing when to use their jester's privilege. When over half of the auspices are hostile to new players or people who are less roleplay-focused, you know that auspices have a problem.

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>>98865941
>It's like the ginfolk situation all over again
What do you mean? Im not opposed to being a Silver Fangs kinfolk, it would be hysterical for them to see a long lost kin, realize he is possessed by a bane, and associates with Bone Gnawers of all tribes. If the BSD realize my ancestory, are they going to rape the shit out of me?
>>98866059
>>98866138
There, there... *face contorts* Do you wanna hit up some nightclubs, find one of them 'matador' vampires I think theyre called, bash in his skull, and drink the fluids that come out?

>>98866251
>>98866294
Uh oh anon, you wouldn't want to get the alphas angry
They're very sensical though and they really can just be boiled down to one word each, sure they're a bit specific but it's no weird than an RPG having a cook class instead of Philodox (laywer) or Theurge (Priest/Wizard)

>>98866336
Ginfolk was a kinfolk in the RP thread that had high SF pure breed and ended up in a chase by the various Garou (and other) in the thread, mostly for the purposes of stopping him from ending up harmed / using him as Pure Breed material / whatever fucked up shit BSD with two dicks do, except as a fomori you'd probably be too far gone and you'd end up in an honor killing situation. Frankly, any pure breed corrupted character would probably be shunned orally so as to avoid the clan losing status I'd assume, and they would definitely send assassins after you. Though the Shadow Lords would help just to dab on the Silver Fangs one last time before also honor killing you.

Lot of honor killings in WtA-land.

Best drug to induce Awakening?
Asking for a friend.

>>98866492
It's that forbidden sorcerer kush

>>98866492
Solificati have a rote for creating one. Its just LSD.

>>98865882
aesin in general would make ready made non wyrmish antagonists for the garou
because they confuse the garou as a whole with the get fenris and there are 3 things

first is the whole garou into mount thing mentioned which makes the get hate them

second is that the aesin believe themselves to be the generation after the aesir so they all believe that they come form odin so they believe the get of fenrir to be agents of ragnarök aka the apocalypse

and third is that despite all this they manage to have a truce with the get which they broke during the shattering and the aesin been pissed at that but unable to do anything about it for half a millenia because they been stuck in the dreaming

they are also really classis assholes who see you as below commoner fae and already consider the idea of commoner raised to noble status to be nonsense which could be nice thematically if you have a garou group who thinks about humans and kinfolk the same way

>>98866334
Counterpoint : auspices is a shit test to make sure that new players actually read the fucking rulebook them being not intuitive and needing research is a conscious design choice.

>>98867226
>hahahaha we made two to three of the five auspices unplayable for new players intentionally as a test
Are White Wolf retarded?

>>98867237
>Are White Wolf retarded?
Yes

>>98867237
How new are you?

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>>98866336
>There, there... *face contorts* Do you wanna hit up some nightclubs, find one of them 'matador' vampires I think theyre called, bash in his skull, and drink the fluids that come out?

I would love that

>>98865182
>/wodg/ campaign
Imagine all the silly shit that would go down.

>>98867610
How many little girls do you think we'd have as PCs?

>>98865182
Beer we need more beer and whiskey get me a barrel of water we need alcohol to vote properly

All in favour of complaining to the local council about the newly established "road improvements" which have limited drunk driving capabilities significantly since their inception?

>>98867620
Werewolf is little girl resistant I'll have you know. First changes happen after you stop being a little girl and you'll need a few years of training and education (off screen) before you're allowed to take the Rite of Passage

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>>98865841
>but I lost it
Here you go.

>>98867652
A mage did it.

>>98865973
>>98865973
Given 90% of the shit you find in there would work as Fomorians and their powers it's better to go the other way around.

>>98867659
>Playing pinhead in DBD be like

>>98865182
...as one of two Syndicates who voted for them, I will enjoy watching the fireworks from far away. Void Engineers bros, good luck there.

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>>98867749
>I will enjoy watching the fireworks from far away
Feels good to watch deviants kill eachother as the money rolls in.

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>>98866336
>>98867516
While I support recreational debauchery, I feel obligated to warn you not to let Shark out of your sight. I'm fairly certain he (she?) still has people on the hunt for him (her?) after he (she?) devoured an entire swimming pool of schoolgirl Revenants.

If I drug a kinfolk with a drug capable of awakening sleepers will they become proper garou instead ?

>>98868120
kinfolk can be mages so no. go skin idiot

>>98868120
No you'll just get a mage. Why would you want to awaken someone like that? You're at risk of getting a dreamsneeder.

>>98868149
>Why would you want to awaken someone like that?
Shits and giggles.

>>98868149
EVERYONE needs to get Awakened.

>>98868174
*Enlightened

>>98868178
>>98868174
It has been FIVE HUNDRED YEARS
Gonna start inventing paradigm-neutral terms if you keep arguing

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Do we have any information on what a corrupt Gurahl is like?

>>98868190
That's asking too much when half of the point of the nomenclature is to diferente themselves from one anotherm

>>98868178
By their own intelligence?

>>98868208
from the met wyrm book of all things
they don't have unique powers but all theirs powers get corrupted
>"Purgers have turned their backs on their totem, so the Gifts that they use are twisted. Wherever a Gurahl Gift would heal, theirs harms. Where a Gurahl Gift would cleanse, theirs taints. The same is true of their rites. They are the same rites as those they learned, but these rites are skewed to bring about corruption and death."

>>98868251
That and the power of Science

>>98864520
Thanks.

The ST problem is fixed as one of the players in my table said he can take over the ST role.

It's honestly the stories and creative writing I'm mostly stressed about. I've got my own projects, and I'm helping one guy by editing his story.

>>98867854
They tasted delicious! Like if an elder has spent centuries playing house for a bunch of poultry only for them to unwillingly serve me a delicious plate of chicken nuggies!

Oh man, that brings me back. Over a year back, when Shark was only a Schreck.net character. I remember trying to mix both Shark from the rp thread and from the chronicle as one, and doing reports on the rp thread as if Shark went back in time. I dropped doing that because it was too hard and the game went at a pacing slower than I expected (also I thought that the Nazi stuff happens way earlier). Nowadays I can of consider both Sharks as two different guys. Like a retcon from DC comics.

=====
Shark is probably already on the Red List (or about to if not publicly known) for multiple reasons…
1) High ranking Sabbat guy
2) Is an abomination
3) Key player / the cause for Gehenna

Also with Fate 5, I must be on the garou equivalent as well

>>98868190
>Most impactful Hollow One

>>98868190
I'll start.
>Awakened
Keyed.
>Sleeper
Locked.

>>98867652
Lupuses get first change at 2 years old.

>>98868645
Yes and they turn into the equivalent of 14 year old humans in Homid form and begin to age like humans on top of that.

>>98868723
>Bez Tytułu
Zabito Boga?

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>>98868731
Tak

>>98868120
>Wizards
>No sense of right or wrong

I have two Nephandi and one Hermetic make an appearance in my magical girl mage’s awakening moment.

Is this too much? At this point, it’s basically just a story, even if the character sheet is already done.

>>98868928
REALITY IS A LIE AND THEREFORE ALL MORALITY IS BUILT ON PRETENSE
WHY SHOULDN'T I SUMMON THE SPIRIT OF VENUS, BIND HER TO AN EMERALD PILLAR AND RAVAGE HER IN EVERY SPIRITUAL HOLE SO SHE STOPS HAVING HER LIGHTNING MENHERA ATTACKS ALL THE TIME

>>98868664
My ST did it wrong, then. We've got an NPC who's about half a year out of her first change and is physically about 12.

>>98868962
I mean if your ST says otherwise I guess

>>98868664
I have a Lupus who has that as a part of his character.
He outlived his wolf-family and it gives him depression

>>98869171
Red Talons usually go crazy around their 30s when they outlive 3-4 generations of wolves so they perform a ritual that transforms them into magical guided missiles that they send at the Wyrm.

>>98869249
>tfw little to no missile-based gifts

Come on Glasswalkers, you've had decades...

>>98869249
>>98869171
Isn't 40 years old roughly around the time Garou start to go bonkers because they realize they're starting to job chronologically and they haven't beat the Wyrm yet?

>>98869369
It's more like 35, the rank of elder is reserved for Garou is given to any Garou who shows signs of ageing, stiff joints and a bad back are canonically reasons for Garou to take the rite of the winter wolf. I can't remember the last time there was any canonical Garou older than 50, it's crazy.

>>98869369
>>98869525
>give the Garou brains to do their job
>give them longer than human lifespans
>they use the brains to develop ableism
>go on suicide runs before they even hit half their lifespan

>>98869525
I'm pretty sure there's a canonical story where the Children of Gaia pressure one of their own into going through the Rite of the Winter Wolf because their hair starts to go gray.

>>98869539
>meanwhile, Mokole...

>>98869548
The Shadow Lords don't even use the Rite of the Winter Wolf, it's in their Revised tribe book, they assassinate any Garou in their tribe older than 30.

>>98869525
>There's a merit which allows a Garou to live to 130
>IS THAT A 31 YEAR OLD WOLF?! THAT'S ILLEGAL! KILL HIS ASS SO WE HAVE ANOTHER ANCESTOR SPIRIT TO GET GIFTS FROM!

>>98869555
At least that's better than the Get of Fenris. Starting on their 25th birthday, every Get has to prove himself in a trial by combat. If he loses, he has to go through the Rite of the Winter Wolf, because clearly he's surrendered to the weakness of age and can no longer contribute to the Garou Nation.

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>>98869555
>>98869556
Somewhere, the Fianna feel a disturbance in the Force. Like another tribe is trying to match their bullshit.

>>98869560
The Fianna are the worst. Their tribe book makes it clear that they heckle and pressure anyone older than 20 into killing themselves, because they're past their prime.

>>98869568
Okay at that point I know you're bullshitting.

>>98869572
Look it up.

>>98869574
If Fianna chicks were exclusively under 20 and usually under 18 there's no way they'd ever lose a 4chan popularity poll.

>>98869568
Black Furies take it a step further. Any Fury older than 15 is labelled a Crone whose ovaries have withered and has lost all value as a woman, and must therefore kill themselves by suicide-rushing the servants of the Wyrm.

>>98869568
>First change at 2
>Rite of Passage after 3 years of education, making you 5 years old, but you're still basically physically mature
>Pressured to die starting from your 8th birthday, right after when most wild wolves kick the bucket from old age
>Wolves in captivity live to 15 years of age

You know what I can see why a regular-ass wolf would think this is OK but Garou stay in their physical prime for decades and don't see the effects of aging until they're like 70 or something.

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>>98869525
Imagine getting old, lmao.

>>98869581
No, Garou culture expects most Garou to be too old to be useful to the Nation starting around the age of 10.

>>98869612
Ah but the Garou are guaranteed life after death. Even if they kill themselves.

>>98869663
Everyone is guaranteed life after death through the gliry of our lord and saviour Jesus Christ though.

>Imagine suffering from the genetic defect of aging, lol. Couldn’t be me
-t. Shark

Good news. Mathilda’s player contacted us. They are likely to come back between December and January. Early February at worst. So in the meantime Mathilda is going to get pimped by her sire to the richest, and nastiest ugly bastards in Germany.

>>98869663
An afterlife full of other garou sounds like a punishment desu.

today i learned that fallen can be sorcerers
it talks about summoning and binding in the corebook
>SuMMoning and Binding
>Armed with the correct summoning rituals, a sorcerer — whether mortal or demon — can summon a demon into his presence. A second ritual can then bind the demon to the summoner’s will, forcing her to become his servant.

>A mortal summoner can breach the barriers around Hell and summon a demon from the Abyss — an impossible feat for even the most skilled and strong-willed demon. No one knows exactly why demons are blocked from pulling their brethren from Hell, but the popular theory is that God placed wards within the fabric of Hell to prevent just such an occurrence. Perhaps the
Creator knew there was a risk of demons escaping the Abyss at some point, and He ensured that such escapees could not simply pry open the gates of Hell and rescue their fellows. Therefore, only a human occultist can summon demons from Hell — assuming she has access to the right rituals. Of course, there is nothing to prevent a demon from teaching a suitable thrall to enact the summoning rituals — or from summoning and binding demons already loose on Earth.

but there is a trap if you summon demons like this
>Once the demon is summoned, the summoner can interact with her, assuming he is not panicked and overwhelmed by witnessing the demon’s apocalyptic form (see Revelation, p. 253).
willpower vs perma faith if you fail that roll you are reduced to a gibbering mess if you botch it you faint dead with a angry demon in the same room and even if you manage the roll you are awed but can still think somewhat rational

anyway i think real juicy thing is that it means you can combine lore of the forge and the path of enchantment in a single character
i was using thralls for that before

>>98868253
That makes sense even if it is kind of a pain in the ass to deal with.

>Garou hate it when you're over the ripe old age of 5 years old
>Garou also hate it when you extend your life unnaturally
meanwhile based bastet:
>practise sorcery, a high chance to turn themselves immortal via some bullshit
>have gifts to just fucking steal the body away from unsuspecting children because fuck you I deserve it more
>fuck off to timeless realms like the dreaming and just stay there

I always wonder what sort of statblock a Ceilican Elder that's fucked off into Arcadia/The Dreaming in 1200~ and came back recently would have, or the immortal Khepur Bubasti who rule their tribe since ancient egypt.

>>98869922
it is made for MET which is simplier than the tabletop in some way

but i haven't found any alternative in the other wyrm books i own (which exludes the w20 one so perhaps it's in there) or their breed book however

>>98869941
sounds like the bastet don't have to deal with totems like owl that murders them if they try to become immortal

>tfw Garou's worst enemy isn't even the wyrm, it's the Garou
Garou sure are contentious people

>>98869966
Now get this
There are Wyrm Garou

>>98869961
Nope. They have personal totems instead that they can presumably even swap out if the vibes are rancid. Also Bastet are far, far quicker to tell spirits to suck it. Bastet teach each other gifts even if it makes spirits seethe and steal them from spirits and other Fera. Their rites are also basically Garou Rites except you can do them solo.

>>98869966
I wouldn't exactly call them people

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>>98869988
>>98869941
Cats win again

>>98869961
>>98869988
most fera have a better relation with their totem than the garou... and then there are the serpents

one war of rage was not enough

>>98868178
>t.

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>>98868178
>you enlightened yet, brother?

>>98869966
I think the irony is that every other Fera is objectively better than them

>>98870070
there is a reason why garou are a pack animal. it's also what is most often even by garou stated to be the reason why the war of rage went in their favor

Man the garou sound more and more retarded the more I browse this thread

>>98870081
welcome to the world of darkness

to be fair everyone is kinda retarded the garou just take the cake

>>98870076
that's partially because they are the novelty prestige option and white wolf loved making rare stuff op

>>98870117
>>98870070

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>>98868178
Total Deviant Death

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>>98867516
>>98867854
Ugh, my head. What happened last night? I remember trying to console Shark and next thing I know Im waking up, rushing to the toilet with a strong taste of iron in my mouth, and puking up red. I dont even drink red wine...

>>98866356
Heh. Is there a way for them to tell I am Kin? Ironically I can use my IRL family history to possibly explain not having innate ties to the garou. I have some Russian nobility in my blood but my family had to flee the country during the bolshevik revolution. I always love telling people my great great grandfather knew Czar Nicholas.

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Why are tziggers like this?

>>98870117
in actual gameplay the bastet are just way worse. Sorcery is way too expensive. Their formstats are gimped for half of them. Their gift lists are way smaller. Far, far harsher curses (Yava). Totem buffs worse. Some Bastet tribes just have like 10 statpoints in Crinos whilst others have like 5. Garou have 8. Do they compensate with other things? Nope! Just worse.

>>98870167
>magical cape that turns you into a vampire(female)
T-tremerebros, I think we are the ones to be blame this time...

>>98870128
All woofs can roll primal urge to tell you are kin and if they are of the same tribe they just know automatically if you have any dots of purebreed.

>>98870167
I hate how the artist's take on vampire reproduction is that feeding automatically embraces, so their population would inevitably go out of control.

>>98870068
>speaks about enlightenment (like a settite)
>wears slut glasses
Que?

>>98870140
>Kyle Rainer's average day as a useless bum who causes more problems than he fixes

>>98870244
Bullshit.
His noble (even if unwilling) sacrifice saved someone else's ass that night.
He is the hero we deserve.

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>>98870187
I want to know why you guys made more than one cape

>>98870286
Because we coul-
I mean, different features/iterations.
Some change the wearer's body more drastically than others, for example. Some mess more with their minds.
There is the catgirl one...

>>98866356
DESU Ginfolk was never specified how much pure breed he has. Just that he was an abused SF kinfolk with silver hair, part of an abused family, and his garou relative and his entourage were disgraced silver fangs. The kind that fell from nobility and were nothing but bums. Angry and spiteful that they were brought so low, and passing their nerves on Ginfolk’s family, while also lazing around.

>>98870128
Oh you’re waking up! We had a lot to drink! Lots of stuff happened, so it’s kind of hazy. First time taking alcohol. First time getting wasted too. A guy/gal could get used to that.

>>98870254
He's a great hero because despite being a useless bum he still mans up sometime. While everyone else calls him a fag responsible for all the world's woes (he is)

>>98866356
Speaking of ginfolk, didn't he get nabbed by a demon?

>>98870443
A fallen redemptionist if I remember right

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Tell me about Ananasi, why do they get infatuated with kindred?

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>>98870802
It's just a fetish.

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>>98870802
Tldr "Theyre relatable"

>>98870443
I don't quite remember but that sounds about right. A mummy also got pretty close, and there was at least one incarna

>>98870802
A-anon, this is not an ananas spider...

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SEX WITH NOSFERATU!!!

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i can't wait to shitpost on here from inside my spess game

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>>98871060

>>98871068
>elysium gossip
Go on...

>>98871081
There's this hairy nosferatu guy, particularly good with obfuscate.
He likes to assume the appearance of a certain toreador and make up with innocent neonates.

>>98870211
can't you just double tap the person after feeding.

>>98871068
Why did Nosferatu name their super secret network after Shrek anyway?

>>98871468
Good movie

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>>98871468

How many Trem*re (and gargoyles) are permanently present in the chantries of small/medium/large cities, on average?

>>98871639
Nice try, tzitard.

>>98870802
Why are the spiders like this? Are they trying to seduce someone?

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>>98871712
B-baka

>>98871639
around 8 is the ideal, but we are told that most chantries are below that and 50 is the absolute max that they probably never reached outside of coeris which had over 200 at one point when the tzimisce burned down all other chantries in the region

one is the regent + 7 apprentices the other is the regent with 7 apprentices in each rank of apprenticeship

this does not include Acolyte (gargoyles and ghouls) and Magister(tremere who dipped out of politics to become advisors or teachers) at all however

but then kekw vtm numbers also say that a city with a million people in it has 15 vampires total so however many you need for your story is the right answer

>>98871744
WoD numbers are stupid and I've personally always ignored them.

>>98871744
Thanks, I‘m trying to gauge a plausible size of a chantry (and the number of vampires in general) for a city of 5000 (Riga) for a V20DA game.
It’s confusing how there’s both supposed to be an overpopulation of leeches but the official numbers say two to three dozens for a city of 10000, iirc. I’m considering 1 vamp for every 100 to 200 people, but that seems like far too many, though the strong clans of a city are supposed to have several elders with numerous younger vampires beneath them.

Anyway, for the chantry I’m thinking 1 regent, 2-3 apprentices, 1-2 visitors/other functions, plus 1-2 gargs and some ghouls. Also a sorcerer and his apprentice at a castle of the swordbrothers further out.

>>98871647
Nope, the local fiends will have to fight tooth and nail against the encroaching ventrue and their allies.

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Bros I think my studies into the Hermetic method of using the Entropy sphere are paying off in real life. Goatfucker was right, chaos magic is REAL.

Fuck I really need to pick up a mage game instead of thinking about werewolf all the time...

>>98872137
Nobody actually plays mage and I challenge the residents to prove me wrong by talking about the chronicle.

>>98872137
Can you mage up a girlfriend for me ?

>>98872231
Do it yourself pussy, invent a girlfriend rote right now

>>98872236
Ok but teach me where do I learn chaos magic

>>98872252
Chaos Magic is "copy and paste whatever the fuck you find from others and use it" look up something along the lines of "Egyptian love spell" and that should be enough, the Greek version require led tablets for fuck that.

>>98872273
I have a tablet and I think it has led screen.

>>98872288
Kek

>>98872288
See now you're getting it

How can I spare my enemies and turn them into friends/recruits like in Deltarune?

>>98872357
Gotta invest in both the social rolls and enough dodgetanking to flirt with them until they submit.

>>98872357
You need at least 3 dots in Mind sphere

>>98872357
Having nonlethal options helps with the first part, having a common goal usually helps with the latter

>>98872357
A little bit of Social Conditioning goes a long way. Basically, get a couple of dots in Life to tranq them and Mind for brainwashing.

>>98871889
>Thanks, I‘m trying to gauge a plausible size of a chantry (and the number of vampires in general) for a city of 5000 (Riga) for a V20DA game.
dark ages are also around 5-6 in the area. we see jearvis travel across a path from coeris to this area and he find 7 chantries that all aren't fully staffed (8) because of the omen war but are staffed well enough that he can convince each of the regents to give him a apprentice for his quest of wiping out the telvanic tremere

the last one where he managed to talk the regent out of his only female apprentice had i think 4 tremere in it

so yeah you are fine

>>98872496
checked and it's 6 chantries. etrius actually gives him one "warmage" at coeris

>>98869944
It's fine I'm just imagining the kind of bullshit you could pull of with mirror charms.

>>98869612
Yes yes becoming immortal as a spirit mage is easy on paper but good luck pulling that in a game, let's be honest y'all don't have tables anyway so it's a moot point.

>>98869314
It's not their fault White Wolf is shit at translating military gear. Memes aside there's a whole PMC camp so if anyone has those gifts it's the GWs.

The problem is making them usable at an actual table.

>>98872536
I mean technically you could use Trash is Treasure and a broken RPG for free RPGs on demand but then you'd have to carry it around and stuff. For me it's the broken switched glock strat.

>>98872496
>>98872505
Thanks! Where did you find that information? Do you know of any other sources about the area?

>>98872551
dark age clan novel tremere and dark age clan novel gangrel are about the ventrue and tremere's effort to wipe out the pagans cainites in that area and said pagan's efforts not to be wiped out

Is there an equivalent of the foam grenades from Demon Hunter X in CofD?

>>98872659
When will you rage?

>>98872702
Finns are too apathetic and autistic to do anything.

>>98872659
Free woof pussy let's go
Fuck sake don't tell me even Finnish WOLVES are too autistic to go inside another being's house

>>98872702
Once they put some stupid mutts before my AI gooning needs.

>>98864614
HISTORIC embarrassment for the trememes. I don't have a favourite faction but maybe I'll vote for Gargoyles to make it even funnier.

>>98872659
>Wolves get domesticated 2.0
Yes I know that isn't how that works

>>98864333
Brujah, Get, Hermetics, Iteration X
Tzimisce, Glasswalkers, Orphans, NWO
Tremere, ???, ???, Syndicate

>>98872659
Weaver does literally nothing and wins.

>>98872920
>Brujah Timmy
I get the principle as the Brujah are the martial smashy clan, but they're just not showy enough for a Timmy.
>Hermetics and Iteration X Timmy
They're both a bit too cerebral for Timmy, Iteration X are all about a long-term project to build the ultimate machine while the Hermetics are all about covering all of their bases with their numerous houses. Both lean more Johnny in my opinion.
>Tzimisce Johnny
I kind of get it, but they seem way more Timmy with their "throw Vicissitude at every problem and win" approach.
>NWO Johnny
They're more Spike with their whole "I win if I control everything" approach. A Black Suit would be utterly miserable to play MtG against.

Now I want to design a custom MtG set built around WoD.

>>98872526
What are you talking about? Any normie can become a drone if they hear the OneSong.

Why isn't there any nerd clan that can do both oblivion and blood sorcery?

>>98872582
Neat, much obliged.

> Touch of Chaos (1 point) [Euthanatos Tradition Book: Revised - Supernatural Flaw]

> Disturbing things happen when you character's around. This is one persistent manifestation of decay or randomness that, while not immediately apparent, will give away your occult connections.
> Withering plants, signs of pestilence, or wild, inconvenient luck could easily be the one thing that always happens when you've been around. This occasionally irritates others and makes it harder to hide your nature.

Playing a Euthy, anyone have good ideas for a Touch of Chaos? For some background she's a Federal Agent, her master implanted her into the FBI so she can perform investigations and deliver the good death. She's got a lot of catholic guilt because she really enjoys killing people.

>>98873070
FBI? Documents she pens go missing occasionally

>>98864333
let me the resident demon fag
>timmy
devourer: those guys can litteraly make custom made bygones with the only limit being how much shit the ST is willing to allow them
they are also the most green of the demons
>johnny
fiend, no not the tzimisce the Neberu use the same nickname and those guys not only have one visage that allows them to cast several evocation per turn (their extra actions are actually full extra turns unlike celerity) they also have timestop bubbles to do even more actions and same visage also gives them extra arms for even more stuff to do in a single round so a Neberu can just do combo after combo till they run out of steam
they are probably also the most blue of the demons with scyring, illusions and pattern manipulation
>spike
Malefactors because abusing the crafting system is just the optimal option after a certain point
and the lore of forge it itself neutral and needs other lores to work off it to be really busted

>>98873078

Mn, that's not bad, it's a little bloodless since her Avatar has a primordial essence, but it makes a lot of sense. Maybe could lead to cases getting fucked up in an interesting way.

>>98873070
Lights flickering when she passes by, bubbles going through the water dispensory thingie when she passes by, makes all the vampires working there drop their cover a bit just by being nearby.

/wod/ getting destroyed by Tzimisce popularity was so fucking funny. Not even being the writer's pets could save them.

>>98873235

Lights flickering is classic, yeah I should go with that, her avatar is Hekate so that'd work great with the weird fucked up goth vibe im going for.

Hey everyone, I wanna ask: how different are every splat from each other, and how specifically the Storyteller System differs.

I tried to join a mage game on the official discord… and let’s say the ST was “irritated” that I applied without fitting his qualifications.

He wanted medium to veteran players. I thought he meant in WoD systems in general, or even OWoD with me having almost two years playing VTM, Hunter and WTA.

He meant medium to veteran MAGE players.

>>98873017
How many of those fuckers still retain control of themselves?

>>98873764
Its same base system but splats have different exclusive mechanics, quintessence, paradox, spheres and how that works.
Dont think about it too much if he treated you like that it means he is a faggot anyway and the game he leads wouldnt be fun.

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>>98870167
>Why are tziggers like this?
I don't know.

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>>98873316
Xenomorphs expies are hot, what did you expect?

>>98873888
>Its same base system but splats have different exclusive mechanics, quintessence, paradox, spheres and how that works.

Yeah that’s what I figured. Doesn’t take a bachelor degree to figure out the different kinks between splats. Like Rage/Gnosis for werewolves vs Blood Pool for vampires.

>Dont think about it too much if he treated you like that it means he is a faggot anyway and the game he leads wouldnt be fun.

Yeah, I explained the confusion (and that most people posting games do the way I described). Said that I was sorry and wished him well in his game… while he was rude about it (or has a really low threshold about being surprised).

You can communicate with the dude only if he accepts you as a friend. Didn’t have the time to finish explaining and wishing again him and his players to have fun before he unfriends me and cut off communications.

I was so taken aback I was wondering if I was somehow the asshole or if I made a wrong assumption.

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>>98873030
>Why isn't there any nerd clan that can do both oblivion and blood sorcery?
Because introducing them now, when they fleshed out both ideas, would be too much of an effort.

That and what would be their deal? Too much overlap with other factions to make them into something more interesting, that lore feels like a garden overrun with Kudzu (Tremere).

Playing in my first real vampire game v20 and I have an insufferable redditor in the group who takes up 80% of the gametime with his epic funny bits

Do I just leave the game? Is there any hope of having fun in a situation like this?

>>98874149
That's a (You) decision buddy.

>>98874149
Aren't the other players tired of his shit?

>>98873030
Because that involves having so many monsters owning your ass your clan bane is a luminescent tramp stamp.