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Previous thread: >>98905656

>TQ:
How do you like handling of mana (loosely: any time limits that prevent you from using a spell/power over and over)?
Should it be specified in detail?
Should it be nonexistent (you can cast as much as you want)?
Should it be abstracted away (no explicit mention, but the reader is trusted to assume some reasonable amount)?
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>>98909481
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>>98909477
is there another page?
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>>98909481
Can you enchant golems? I could see enchanting high-level golems with stuff like resistance, restoration and swiftness being pretty strong.
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>>98909496
Nta but no, it's a WIP and that's all we have of it for now. There will be more later, probably.
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And with that there's 4 halloween OCs from CYOAG this month so far (13h 44min remain until November 1 ends in the world's last time zone, UTC-12).
( >>98909477 ) and ( >>98909481 >>98909486 ) might be wips from what I understand?
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>>98909481
witches utterly RAPE and SHIT ON vampires thanks to crafting.
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>>98909468
>How do you like handling of mana (loosely: any time limits that prevent you from using a spell/power over and over)?
Any setting that uses mana can never go above B tier on the Magic Settings List, barring extremely rare exceptions.
>Should it be specified in detail?
Ideally.
>Should it be nonexistent (you can cast as much as you want)?
Only if reasoned adequately.
>Should it be abstracted away (no explicit mention, but the reader is trusted to assume some reasonable amount)?
Sometimes.
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>>98909468
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>>98909518
Witches wish they could compete with vampires, craftjobbers get the mushoku tensei special as martials are magnitudes stronger than them in every metric. At least make yourself a girl so you have some value to vampbvlls.
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>>98909526
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>>98909522
>can never go above B tier on the Magic Settings List
Is that just a turn of phrase or are you referencing some real setting autist list?
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>>98909508
So we count the last time zone then?
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>>98909468
I like mana because it works as a much more convenient prevention method for obvious exploits then reality getting mad
It stops infinite loops, it sets a base understanding for magecraft, all and all it seems like a useful addition
(Although now that I think of it it would be amusing to have a world where magic constantly trounces conservation of mass and so the planet just keeps getting bigger until it looks like a junkyard filled with useless shit people created (Which they never sort through, because it's quicker to just summon more). It would then be revealed that every planet was a demiplane created by a wizard who got sick or the stink of old planets and after a certain age planets collapse into black holes)

>Should it be specified?
I would rather it was, but "Permeating energy that intelligence can directly manipulate" is good enough
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>>98909546
>>98900887
In as far as there's any real authority, that one anon said so.
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>>98909505
>Can you enchant golems?
The vehicle section says yes
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>>98909581

And with that there's _5_ halloween OCs from CYOAG this month so far.
My bad.
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Next verse, same as the first
>Experiment 1: Talent Discount
Making a builds where your talent rating in one aura type provides a discount. This is to make basic techniques cheap, master techniques slightly less ecpensive, and leave legend techniques largely the same.
Compare your "G" rating to the rating required for a technique, if you G rating is higher it subtracts it's value from the point cost.
Example:
Seismic Strike costs 6 points to buy.
Your build has G3 in Core.
Seismic Strike only requires G1.
Seismic Strike now only costs 3 points for you.
>Experiment 2: Aura Burst Mode
Kufoku mentions you'll be able to Double your points after completing an Aura Burst campaign, so why not make builds for that?
Make a standard build for your freshly summoned conscript, then making Another build for your conscript after completing all their campaign missions.

The second build gets build and equipment points equal to their starting "Potential"(45 for talented, 35 for mutated, etc). They get no bonus alterations.

Given how the "Prodigy" alteration works,, double these bonus points points for your second build, but equipment points are not doubled
>Experiment #3
The Aura costs of techniques is reduced by taking Training. Each training reduces a specific category of techniqued by 1 star at initiate, 2 stars at master, and 3 stars at legend.

The category of Techniques a Training effects are specific.
Skill Training can reduce aura cost for a techniques below 1, but doesn't make a technique free. Techniques with on aura cost below 1 have a cost from 0.75 to 0.25 of one star
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>>98909530
>At least make yourself a girl so you have some value to vampbvlls.
>Not getting raped by a yandere vampire queen
I refuse.
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>>98909587
You remind me of the pdf cyoa about cyoag authors poster
What became of that anyway? Did it reach playable state?
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>>98909508
Dont know how recent/old this one is.
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>>98909600
never did
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>>98909481
Vampires vs Witches is the clear winner.
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>>98909611
>AI art
>pill picker
>No killer aliens/robot
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>>98909621
It's not even finished

>>98909518
craftKEKs...
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>>98909611
Complete lack of soul aside, I doubt it was supposed to be a CYOA; they wouldn't be strictly ranked from weaker to stronger if they were. Looks like a random image from the internet to me.
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>>98909621
Nah, it is the ghost one. While Blood Moon has potential, it is still only WIP.
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>>98909626
>It's not even finished
>>98909632
>it is still only WIP
That's how hard it mogs. It's WiP and still obviously wins.
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>>98909591
My brother
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>check r/makeyourchoice
>all the top posts are reposts
Lmfao this hobby is so fucking over
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The hobby will be saved once Elden Ring drops trust the plan
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Gilbert ;_;
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>>98909481
Maybe I'm blind, but how much blood do Vampires use each day just to survive? Or is blood only spent when using certain powers/mana or regenerating?
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>>98909675
>post frenzied flame ending
its gonna be shit
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>>98909627
It doesn't even have any instructions like "pick one" or something. It's just an info panel, it could be a part of something bigger I guess but by itself it's just vague lore about monsters.
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>>98909481
I was curious about this but holy shit yea, vampires absolutely obliterate witches. A theorcrafted build for a clanless vampire is like Vitality 5, Celerity 5, Might 5, Perception 4, Umbramancy 2.

All of this combined means they are resistant to large explosive and anti-tank weaponry on top of being able to regenerate from basically nothing within a second and being immune to basically any hax curse or potion below tier 5. They can not only move at potentially over around 6000 mph AT LEAST and have near-light speed reaction speeds but also have in-built ultra instinct precog, they are physically capable of exterting force strong enough to cause localized earthquakes and ripping apart pretty much any mundane or magically enhanced ability due to having "the ability to bend enchanted tungsten rods like paperclips" just at tier 4, and can break or block esoteric intangible things and magical effects. They can INSTANTLY process all of their senses at these hyper increased physicals, hear and see literally everything within a large radius around them including the intangible and have precog that tells them when they're being watched, and can conceal their aura and go invisible in darkness.

There is nothing, I repeat, nothing that a witch can do that can compare to this. Anything a witch could even attempt to prepare will result in them being splattered from miles away by a prime vampire flicking a rock at them at beyond railgun speeds in the milisecond their neurons even fire to do something malicious. The only potential recourse witches have is if things like chimeras and golems can be enchanted to the same godly levels of power, but chimeras are inherently uncontrollable and we have no idea how good the enchantments are but the text makes it seem MUCH lower.

Witches are basically just alive because higher vampires let them be alive, this setting is so utterly fucked. I'm just gonna be a prime vamp with my vampire bride harem I guess.
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>>98909667
Make oc
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>>98909739
>Near-light speed reaction speeds
what? That's ridiculous. Several times the speed of sound is nowhere near c. Moving past Mach is pretty silly though, vampires are way stronger unless witches can summon something stronger.
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>>98909747
>what? That's ridiculous. Several times the speed of sound is nowhere near c.
Both Celerity and perception compound to drastically speed up reaction times to the point the calculation is closer to light speed than anything natural.
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>>98909739
Abjuration 5 is unbeatable.
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>>98909753
Nothing in the cyoa suggests that. Going too fast would just mean they light themselves on fire anyway.
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>>98909771
Its easily beatable, actually. It can't resist might 5.
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>>98909774
Something Something wind clan
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>>98909779
It can. It is even intended. Barriers are specifically resistant.
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>>98909481
sons clear both
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>>98909784
They job to paladins.
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>>98909774
Celerity makes them able to go that fast without consequence basically.
>>98909783
Resistant doesnt matter unironically, vampires are operating so fast and on such a higher level your barrier and insinuating it being "resistant" means anything shows you didn't understand what was said.
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>>98909753
Explain your reasoning further because light speed cognition is very big
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>>98909802
cognition =/= reaction
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>>98909784
Any witch that survives vampire hell is prime Tempered Hero material so they solo sons.
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>>98909753
Let us assume the following:
Celerity increases reaction times exactly to the point you won't run into things
Perception halfs reaction times every level

Knowing that Celerity 5 allows you to move at "several times the speed of sound" we will assume this number is (7)(340)m/s = 2380m/s or over 7000 km/hr
assuming they see things a constant 10m away from them to be able to react to them, they must then be able to react at a time of 10/2000 = 2ms
If said reaction time halved each level from perception it would become 2/2^4=1.3 e-4 =0.13ms reaction time
Assuming an event happens 100m away it would take light 100/3e8 seconds to reach, or 3e-7 or 0.0003ms
Meaning the speed of light is still effectively instant for the purposes of our calculations.
Very fast, but nowhere near the speed of light
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>>98909792
Can you punch harder than a nuke?
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>>98909742
so you can post it on reddit?
nah, I don't think I will
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>>98909826
The amount of force able to be generated by might 4, let alone a potential might 5? Yes.
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>>98909792
Speed doesn't matter if they can't even scratch it. Barriers are clearly intended to be effective by the author.
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>>98909831
I do not believe you
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>>98909791
not a fair comparison, vampires and witches job to paladins too
that cyoa is spiteful and cheating.
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Hey so about the vampires... Are you guys aware that they seem to use mana too? Going full throttle all the time might not be possible.
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>>98909818
At level four perception they are able to process stimulus instantaneously as per the cyoa, combined with boosters this should put them either at or close to that even with a little suspension of disbelief on the literal interpretation of the instantaneous part.
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>>98909841
You bring Entroshitters to bully other settings. Fairness isn't something you truly care about, that's for sure.
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>>98909837
>Speed doesn't matter if they can't even scratch it.
Good thing they can generate enough force with might five alone and are hyper boosted by celerity speeds increasing impact force.
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>>98909850
An instant is the smallest unit of time a human can measure
If two events happened 1ms apart from eachother, most humans would not be able to distinguish which happened first
I wouldn't say instant means a literal instant, because that would be an infinity
I think 2^n scaling makes enough sense
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>>98909845
Hypothetically its moot since we have no idea how much anything costs or how much mana a vampire has/can have.
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>>98909845
>Are you guys aware that they seem to use mana too
Their mama is replenished by drinking blood. Take Hemokinesis and have functionally infinite mana by draining people long-distance.
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>>98909774
a few times the speed of sound is already enough to set yourself on fire

if you were going at relativistic speeds through air you wouldn't just be a source of fire, you'd be a source of nuclear fusion going off like countless nukes constantly
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>>98909865
>>98909865
I would assume that going all out and giving a punch more powerful than a nuke is probably going to cost you
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>>98909862
Debate aside I would also note that if you took deathly invigoration you could move and react even faster-er if you actually do manage to get wounded. Witches just do not stand a chance.
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Why don't the witches, being outgunned, simply lifewipe the planet during the daytime and let the vampires starve to death?
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>>98909885
Just summon the summer court and watch the vampires melt lmao
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>>98909885
morality
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>>98909883
Actually your blood is health, so you would just get faster as you spent it
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>>98909712
It's the kind of image you get when you give ChatGPT image generator a simple prompt and tell it to make a poster. Even 1 sentence is enough.
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>>98909885
They aren't actually fighting, it's a sex thing
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>>98909885
Because that would not only cause the vampires to destroy you but would also cause other witches to destroy you, nothing available is feasibly possible of doing that anyways in a timeframe not able to be sufficiently countered by either vampires or other witches in short order.
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>>98909841
The exponential damage increase neuters the cyoa to me, because there instantly is no challenge to anything.
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>>98909861
Anon, I seriously doubt the author did any hard math here. Nuclear explosion is a symbol of the strongest shit our modern civilisation could pull off, it isn't called its hard limit, just something it can tank. I operate on RAI. And you try too hard.
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>>98909907
>I ignore the cyoa because I assume the author is retarded
Ok why are you talking about headcanon then?
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>>98909896
>CWC
, he's the boss
>Sonichu
, he's the protagonist
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>>98909896
This is surprisingly sweet for being a parody of chris chan. I bet if he saw this he would probably cry.
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>>98909899
>nothing available is feasibly possible of doing that anyways in a timeframe not able to be sufficiently countered by either vampires or other witches in short order.
Summoning 5, Enchanting 5, Astromancy 5 and a lot of mana crystals during the daytime
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>>98909896
MLW is looking very fuckable there.
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>>98909919
Literally nothing there is going to be destroying a significant part of the city let alone all of the world. Even attempting to be a terrorist is going to get you ganked and murdered in nothing flat. A prime vampire can last a while in sunlight at full power, by the way.
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>>98909928
>Literally nothing there is going to be destroying a significant part of the city let alone all of the world.
So we're ignoring the cyoa text now?
>Even attempting to be a terrorist is going to get you ganked and murdered in nothing flat.
That's why you set all of them off in every city at the same time
>A prime vampire can last a while in sunlight at full power, by the way
Only their vitality stays level 5, no one cares about the level 4s especially without a target in front of them to fight
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Sadly, I don't think I will complete my contest entry in time. I have encountered some stuff late in the game that needs a major rework to make sense given other sections I added. I could cut some content but it would destroy the structure and point of the CYOA. Thanks to the people who have cooked something up though
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>>98909947
>a single city block
Yea its doing nothing, this jobs to prime vampires easily.
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>>98909963
Now read the rest of the sentencw vampcope
Fixed because tism, I know no one cares but it bothered me
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>>98909947
>Only their vitality stays level 5,
No all of their powers stay at max as per vitality 4.
>So we're ignoring the cyoa text now?
A city block is doing nothing to the entire city
>That's why you set all of them off in every city at the same time
Precog and normal mana sight will see you attempting to set these up, you can cope about it but its going to take you forever to actually make and enchant things and try to make all of the things, and this assumes you're going to even be able to pull out more than one archdemon at a time through summoning. Other witches and vampires will see this coming through precog or just normal mana sense long, long before you even attempted this and you will lose.
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>>98909947
>anon is unironically trying to say he can make enough archdemon explosives to level the world, let alone the city
I'm pretty sure the archdemon would just not answer if you're being this much of a retard excluding all of the other obviously retarded parts of this plan.
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>>98909982
>A city block is doing nothing to the entire city
Why are you so scared of the rest of that sentence?
>Precog and normal mana sight will see you attempting to set these up
Precog is shit in this cyoa and you can hide all the prep in your demiplane thanks to animancy.
Fair on vitality tho
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>>98910000
>to level the world
I'm trying to destroy a bunch of cities not the world? Then summon demons to hunt the surviving humans while I hide in the demiplane like a coward
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>>98910002
>Why are you so scared of the rest of that sentence?
It doesn't matter, power is city block level.
>Precog is shit in this cyoa and you can hide all the prep in your demiplane thanks to animancy.
Precog will have literally everyone know you're doing something, demiplane or not. A higher vampire is going to sniff out the entrance to your demiplane and rip it open like paper before raping you.
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>>98910008
Even more of a failure plan, you're ngmi long before even trying.
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>>98910011
>Precog will have literally everyone know you're doing something, demiplane or not.
Now post a pic of the precog that does that
>A higher vampire is going to sniff out the entrance to your demiplane and rip it open like paper before raping you
The entrance doesn't exist until I decide to make one
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>>98909975
You gotta fix the spelling mistake now
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>Inb4 vampires get nerfed to oblivion because they keep getting inflated interpretations
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>>98910026
>Now post a pic of the precog that does that
Both perception and divination give portents of the future and future sight.
>The entrance doesn't exist until I decide to make one
The entrance does exist as your mana traces are left and might allows vampires to physically interact with esoteric magical effects. You were honestly never cut out for being a witch at this rate.
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>>98910041
>Mana traces of the spell casted are left so clearly there is an entrance to rip into
That's a very convenient interpretation
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>>98910026
>The entrance doesn't exist until I decide to make one
OH NO NO NO PORTAL BRO
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>>98910052
Its not convenient you're just illiterate and ignored the cyoa.
>>98910053
Lol
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>anons think they can actually hide in their demiplane instead of it being a featureless void like implied
Lol
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Someone with Glamour 5 armed with Curses 5 + Enchanting 5 artifact of instant fuck you can simply assassinate super vamps in their sleep, add Animancy 2 to be extra safe. Witches naturally operate in covens, teamwork is the name of the game.
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>>98910062
nta, I'd assume that just means opening/closing a portal would leave a trace, not that the portal is still there somehow.
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>>98909954
The bunny will miss your entry and await the promised OC.
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>>98910062
>>98910062
That still does not prove that there is a portal after the portal has been closed? Why would it be?
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>>98910041
>perception gives portents of the future and future sight
Where
>The entrance does exist as your mana traces are left and might allows vampires to physically interact with esoteric magical effects.
>Might 5 lets me use witch magic
I'm not even surprised anymore, vampkeks need to make up shit instead of reading the cyoa
>>98910053
Now explain how knowing a portal was opened there at some point means you can open it, if portals stayed useable forever teleportation circles wouldn't need to exist. Once their closed there's no longer a portal there
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>>98910078
And where does it say that?
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>anon is faking illiteracy still
Not even worth replying too anymore.
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>>98910091
Oh and witch precog sucks, vague portents and one possibility for the next day aren't reliable
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>>98910100
"Something something remember that alchemy is not the intelligence affinity"
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vampkeks getting uppity again.
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>>98910085
Here's part of the first header, before a section about your side hustle. I do still intend to complete this in the next week or two. It involves leeches. Thanks for your gunpoint reassurance, bunny.
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>>98910101
5 sec precog is pretty good on a fight though
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>>98909481
So what's the max of both witch mana pools and vampire blood pools? CYOA doesn't say
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>>98910167
we dont know because the cyoa doesnt say. You answered your own question
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>>98910169
Oh....
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>Abjuration can create conditional barriers
>Abjuration barriers can get strong enough to resist nukes
>Barriers are explicitly resistant to Might 5, and difference in mana can also make Might 5 less effective
The very attosecond a vampire enters a witches range it's absolutely over for them. Barriers protect the witch and trap the vampire. Buffed with mana from mana crystals and the vampire is just fucked. Fruitlessly wasting blood and mana trying to escape. Genuinely just shit and finished.
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>>98909667
>check r/nsfwcyoa
>all the top posts are oc
really makes you think
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>>98910182
>The very attosecond a witch enters a vampires range it's absolutely over for them.
true
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I just want to make magical minions and have a monstergirl harem is that so wrong ;(
why is animancy and witches so bad :(
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You aren't fooling anyone vampkek
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>>98909481
Are witches female only or what?
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>>98910203
no
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>>98910201
softie...
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>>98910183
R*dditor detected. True anons can't check it now.
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>>98910146
Gives me Lone Observer Road trip vibes, I miss that man.
Your writing is sort of soothing.
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>>98910216
yea...
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>>98910182
Negation field fucks them up even harder to compound it
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>>98910209
On who´s brathority do you speak brah?
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>>98910201
Just make a witch and don't involve yourself in the war
Also vampires can make monstergirls too
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>>98910217
true anons lurk on every website at once.
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>>98910242
You're already involved just by being a witch/vampire.
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>>98910203
It doesn't specify a gender requirement, and several Witch options (Fae Summoning, Cartomancy, etc) feature men, so I'd assumed they aren't female-only.
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>>98910217
The hell are you talking about? You don't need an account to look at reddit. Are you br*tish or something?
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>>98910254
You need it to look at NSFW parts of it, apparently. And they killed off the old version for anons too.
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>>98909481
Are the average vampire/witch as strong as the choices we get? Because then we are kinda fucked up eventually.
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>>98910273
Depends on how good the atavist and lunatic options are supposed to be compared the other options
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>>98909921
She looks literally like picrel, it is her.
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>>98910271
Yep reddit porn is dead
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>>98910273
If the apprentice and other vampire ally powers are anything to go by, no not even close. Higher end is probably like 20 points spread out with no level 5s.
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>>98910291
Looking, for example, at vampire clans... its just picking up a drawback for your clan and a power. You could try to minmax and pick the best drawback and power, but it still would not be much better than the other clans that already exist.

What it gives is soft power as you are now the leader of a clan, but being a clan member of another clan leaves you the path open to eventually be the leader of said clan if you play your cards right anyway.

And in exchange you have 10 less ichor.

And how does this answer to the power of the average vampire/witch? How much ichor and lumina do they have in their builds?
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>>98910304
So 7 points for apprentices tier?
10 points average.
15 points talented.
20 points prodigy
25 founder
30 unholy shit
35 alucard
Does this sound good?
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>>98910320
I doubt the player is meant to be that high up, though they're definitely meant to be a top tier
The clan founders and original magi are probably stronger right now, with the gap between the player and them currently unknown
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>>98910328
>I doubt the player is meant to be that high up, though they're definitely meant to be a top tier
Its more or less based on founders being 25 ichor points worth and assuming the rest of founders were like that and are the strongest or almost strongest member of their own clans.
>The clan founders and original magi are probably stronger right now, with the gap between the player and them currently unknown
Does that mean you can try and gain more powers of the cyoa overtime?

The player is for sure a top tier, but now it kinda look like alucard against normies vampire
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>>98910328
>The clan founders and original magi are probably stronger right now
But the players can be those things too, so they are meant to be top tier if they choose to be. The clan founder and original magic option aren't locked forever, they are just WIP right now.
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>>98910339
>Does that mean you can try and gain more powers of the cyoa overtime?
I'm assuming it's possible due to the witch assistants being able to be apprentices and how the player is assumed to be an experienced and successful member of their species(just look at the item section)
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>>98910343
Again I'm assuming its possible to grow stronger, if it's not then yeah the player is probably one of the strongest vampires/witches alive
If it is then they original magi and founders probably did exactly that since you're implied to be younger then them
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One thing that is not talked about is... we are in "Luna city" what the fuck is Luna city and how it is?
It is a neighbourhood of vampires living in a ghetto and witches living in their own ghetto?
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>>98910360
Remember that it's a WIP, maybe the description of the place is something that will come in the full version.
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>>98909733
I want to fuck alien prison bitches so bad bros
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>>98910455
And yet you never will. Funny how that works isn't it?
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>>98910471
The chances of getting sent to space prison for a crime you didn't commit are low but never zero
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>>98910320
>>98910339
An Atavist/Lunatic probably isn't as strong as a clan founder or true mage from the start, right? It would be weird if the strongest tier in the setting was 10 points below us.
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>>98910225
That makes me very happy; hopefully my CYOAs live up to his standard one day. They are some of my favorites
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>>98910535
It would mean we are just nuts. Not that founders/original magi are weak. If the companion options are anything to go by, 25 points is a fucking lot and would let you fodderize average members
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>>98909486
I hope there are ways to get more money in the full version, like drawbacks or missions or something. Getting a Train base with all the additions and some facilities takes almost all of my budget, and I don't have enough cash left to buy any staff/employees.

Other than that though, really cool cyoa, great work.
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>>98910683
>like drawbacks or missions or something
Missions with actual rewards would be cool. More cyoas should have those.
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I keep trying to make a witch build and it just feels like shit. Animancy/enchanting/potions 5 just doesnt do much against super vampires
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>>98910719
I am pretty sure Animancy creating a super golem and putting your soul in it. Enchanting making your new body stronger and potions to get a few invulnerabilities.

Vampires will always be the strongest combat option, thats why witches will always be the best for utility. But even as a witch you can be stronger than the majority of vampires.
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>>98910726
No dick then, death is preferable
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>>98909481
>Witch
Normal
>Powers
Level 5 : Enchanting, Abjuration, Astromancy
Level 3 : Animancy
>Power Combinations
Phylactery Creation, Mana Crystals
>Affinities
Druidry, Minor Conjuration, Minor Transmutation
>Resources
Human Agent, Communication Crystal, Invisibility Field, False Identification, Raw Materials, Gemstones, Mana Crystals, Large Mansion
Could spend the rest on contacts, properties, more human agent or addditional materials, crystals and gemstones.
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>>98910765
Nowhere it says you can't be a guy, and some images like necromancy use a guy.
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>>98910770
No I mean by turning yourself into a golem.
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>>98909667
There's an assmad butthurt mod who hates gifts of faves, pill picker style cyoas and anything using ai art and has been on a deletion/banning spree and he's killed some cyoas that didn't fall into those categories in his lackadaisical perusing to make sure they were actually in the categories he hates. And now the whole reddit is almost all reposts and traffic has slowed to a crawl. He's kind of a catnigger type of person.
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>>98910779
Red is the ONLY mod on the subreddit that is active. Nigga is the only thing keeping that subreddit alive, glad he kicked out the low-effort spambots doing pill pickers and shit.
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>>98910779
holy based
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>>98910787
Where is skeletickles???
Is he safe??? Is he alive????
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>>98910793
Who knows, even red said he hasn't been able to contact him in like a year or more.
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>>98910787
>>98910791
Dead sub now so great job on that guys part.
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>>98910800
>redditors literally cannot make anything thats not low effort slop
Thats not his fault.
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>>98910779
>mod who hates gifts of faves, pill picker style cyoas
Uhhhmmm based??? Is reddit saved?
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>>98910800
It was dead before the spambots just made it seem otherwise.
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>>98910726
>Vampires will always be the strongest combat option
The strongest combat option is always the strongest option.
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>>98910779
A janitor removing trash? Unheard of, really
It is quite strange that reddit has cyclical reposts of the same cyoa's given that they have a searchable archive
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>>98910719
Just don't imagine all of the vampires as having 3 level 5's?
Instant death should work against most opponents, and enchanting is an extremely useful skill
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>>98910854
>Instant death should work against most opponents
I don't have that??? Even looking at summoning, it seems like its way more work for not enough pay off. Stuff like animancy and potions and stuff requires you to get ingrediants and stuff but summoning is dealing with demons or fey that are going to ask for stuff like sacrificing babies or whatever for barely enough payout. Shits fucked.
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>>98910779
Based, if only the nsfw mod team could ban that dickhead that's been doing "hey choose a waifu and powers from these media properties!" For two fucking years now
>>98910800
Do you think gift of faces are really that good? Everyone does one and they're the most annoying shit ever.
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>>98910854
>Instant death should work against most opponents
>it works on nobody, it needs direct contact which a witch should not be getting.
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>>98910874
>doesnt choose any good combat options
>mad that hes not good at combat
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>>98910874
You could have instant death curses
>>98910877
Glamour. Enchantments. Creativity.
You don't need to kill that many people to live a good life
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>>98910846
What if you're a pacifist
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>>98910883
then go back into the ocean retard
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>>98910881
The instant death curses are not very good desu, you yourself are never going to be good at combat so banking on something that needs touch is stupid. Even attempting to imbue it into bullets or whatever is just asking to get murdered by any decent physical vampire. You have to go the alchemist route and either create or summon things to fight for you, but both require lots of effort outside of combat. Like what kind of things are named demons or even an archdemon going to ask for in return for helping you? The potential blood sacrifices are too much for someone like me, and fey aren't going to be much better even if I think I prefer them over demons (and you still get the imp, hellhound, succubi infernal, etc options just 'fey' so like fairies, cu sith, nymphs ???? and then you go progressively higher in the noble line until you get an archfey summon which is ???? just like the archdemons)
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>>98910146
I'm considering the same with my not!Shiki cyoa. I have Monday free but there's just 7h left and I'm sleepy. I'll try a bit more before quitting though.
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potionmaking is the only immortality method for witches so you should be taking it no matter what unless you're willing to enslave yourself to a demon for potential immortality
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>>98910896
I haven't read the cyoa but by common sense shouldn't witches be able to make potions for each other?
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>>98910906
Sounds like a good way to get enslaved to another witch. Nobodies going to hand out tier 5 literal immortality potions for anything less
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>>98910908
>Nobodies going to hand out tier 5 literal immortality potions for anything less
I would
Guess you just got btfo
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>>98910896
Animancy/Necromancy 5. Maybe moderately wanked version of Glamour 5 too.
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>>98910876
I'm actually not a huge fan of Gifts of Faves as the format has been heavily abused and the original premise ignored but there are some that have interesting writeups/scenarios and powers and the fun is always coming up with what you'd do with them in whatever setting (or rl) that you'd end up in. That goes for most cyoas though.

Same went for some of the pill pickers. Most of those are low effort trash but some have added pages of interesting synergies and are far more thought provoking than some grid buy or 1 page junk someone churned out.

The real issue is that it kills any sort of creativity or desire someone had to make more cyoas so the hobby as a whole loses out and yes, most of those people won't make anything more complex than their pill picker but some have gone on to make more cyoas that are more indepth and now those few are being chased away due to some mod. People are very short sighted and rarely look to the future or the consequences of their actions.
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There was a cyoa where you handed out powers to a large group of witches (whom you also administer). My build was to design a disease that makes all humans immortal, and from leftover points the only thing left to do for the witches was holy water to placate witch hunters. Dark bg. Anyone know it, post it?
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>>98910921
Witchmaster?
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>>98910924
https://imgchest.com/p/a846g6jv7xj
No. From the name I thought this surely must've been it but no. The cyoa I mean didn't have specific characters in it. You designed spells by method and effect and gave them to a slightly configurable but anonymous mass of witches you'd administer.
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>>98910271
Yeah, they killed off the old version, but you can go on the normal one and visit nsfw subreddits without a problem, even without an account.
I ask again: are you br*tish?
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>>98910999
This is the screen I see. I am a different, not british anon
Where do you live? Do you have an account and have you checked without cookies?
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>>98909481
Yea idk I can't build for this cyoa I dont really want to be a vampire but witch is too bad.
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>>98911018
Works on my machine. I can click on those "view nsfw content" and it shows it no problem. I don't have a reddit account. I'm canadian.
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>>98911064
Ok
I am irish
I have asked chat gpt, and it claims many countries but does not provide an exact list
I suppose I might set a vpn to canada to avoid some trouble then, but I don't intend on browsing reddit in the near future, so that doesn't mean much
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How do you feel right now anon?
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>>98911117
Tired, so tired and yet I must persist. I noticed my CYOA had no witches or vampires in it so I'm adding some.
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>>98911117
Pretty bad desu, I'm not doing well all things considered.
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>>98911120
It is honestly pretty funny for you to have made a vampire and witches cyoa without vampires or witches
Fight on anon! Live a life with nothing to regret
>>98911121
Ah, that's unfortunate
I hope you get well soon anon
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Are there any fantasy cyoas where non-combat abilities are emphasized?
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>>98911157
Alchemy in spirit conscript.
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>>98911157
yes
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>>98909508
How much time is there left?
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>>98911212
4 hours 4 min remain until November 1 ends in the world's last time zone (UTC-12).
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>>98911214
Thanx
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>>98911157
>Are there any fantasy cyoas where non-combat abilities are emphasized?
Of course!

Off-hand, I'm going to point you at Magic Item Shop (by Bliss and Beri), Fairy Friend (either version), SDA's Magic Mentor, the Lost Greenhouse, the Magic Book Store, and - if you don't mind some lewd art - Fairy Gardener (by KoboldAnon).

Is there a particular topic or concept you're interested? And if it's okay to include some multiversal shenanigans, I have even more suggestions.
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OC OC OC
The following is my submission to the Witchs/Vampires Halloween contest. As is usual, most of the planing was done well in advance, and most of the implementation in the past few hours
I am stuck by both the thoughts that I should have spent less time on this, given outside concerns, and that I should have made it better. Such is life
I think I might start using the name "PW", if it doesn't have any unknown connotations and no one has any better idea's
For allsync anon: I made antipact a while ago. It wasn't very good

Tell me if something is wrong
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>>98910779
ngl it is funny but not surprising to see cyoag come down on the side of 'yes, mods SHOULD remove everything they personally dislike'.
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I too, have arrived with OC OC OC and more OC
May have missed something and in a bit of a hurry. Meant to be a simple waifu cyoa with five girls to choose from. But the limited time of the contest forced me to cut corners, given the amount of time it took me to write only three of them.

Happy Halloween everyone, better late than never i guess.
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>>98911402
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>>98911409
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>>98911414
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>>98910874
>that are going to ask for stuff like sacrificing babies or whatever for barely enough payout.
,,,I guess if you want to assume the cost to benefit to ratio is that bad you can, but why would you?
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>>98911402
If you were the tired anon, good night and sweet dreams
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>>98911459
No, that was me. I only just now woke up, I took a nap because I was too tired to think.
33min to go.
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>>98911506
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>>98911569
>14:00:01


AHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH okay this was invalid. The version posted within the unreasonably stretched Baker Island timezone timespan of the contest officially contains no witches or vampires.
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>>98911569
What was this?
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>>98911575
I don't think people care. The other 2 WIPs are probably going to count anyway. It's not a reason to delete your completed cyoa either.
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>>98911569
>>98911575
What did you delete
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>>98911715
The perfect cyoa for you, particularly.
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>>98911745
:(
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>>98911423
They're demons.
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>>98911771
Yes?
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>>98911402
Svetlania/Ritual of Midday
Skill At Arms (Expert)
Tracking and Survival (Expert)
Tactics and Strategy (Expert)
Insight and Intuition (Mastery)
Guardian Protector (Mastery)
Blade of Clover

Nice cyoa. Feels a bit rushed but that's understandable given the contest.
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>>98909508
Finally finished my image build for this. The reason it took so long to finish my build was that I used a bunch of images of one of my favorite monsters in Monster Hunter, the Gore Magala and I used AI-editing to change color on the Gore Magala from purple, red and black to cyan and black, and the AI services I used have a cooldown on how many images you can edit/generate per day, so that's why. I even had some of my friends prompt edits on their computers to work around the limit. I decided to use cyan to turn the Gore Magala into the ghostly Gol Magala, because cyan is one of the most iconic ghost colors. Originally, I wanted to go for teal, I think teal is a really good ghost color, but it looks more evil than cyan. And since my Anchor isn't evil, cyan would fit me better.

I'm really satisfied with my build, and I really liked the CYOA! Still, it could be made better if the CYOA didn't mix art styles.
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>>98911779
That's it, why would they not ask for blood prices and try to scam you?
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>>98909468
>>98909468
Woke up, bought me a masala chai, popped open some tangerines, set a timer for two hours. Gonna see what kind of CYOA I can shit out in that time
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>>98911402
>1 art style
Good
>Terrible text-to-image ratio
This is abysmal
>Font on the option descriptions is as big as most other option titles in other CYOAs
>Images are so big they don't even fit on my gigantic ginormous gaming screen
You need to scale down the fucking scale on everything in your CYOA. I have often heard about anons complaining about CYOA texts being to small and asking if the CYOA was made for ants... Is this CYOA made for giants? What the fuck is up with this unnecessarily big scale? This CYOA could have been 2 pages long, but you decided to scale everything to maximum and make it 4 pages. Fucking retarded.
>Title of the CYOA uses a text style for "And the Coming of Fall" which is not thematic for the subject of the CYOA. To be fair The Season Witches does have a thematic text style.
Another red flag, one of many. I will not play or even read this dumpster fire of a CYOA. The author should be ashamed of themselves for producing such a shittedly formatted CYOA.
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>>98911948
Well the obvious reason is 'this is a level 4 power and it is clearly not meant to be a trap'. Beyond that you could say that if they set the prices too high they just won't get anything at all, and they know that. Or you can do what I did, take Fae Summoning and take the options that make you a Big Deal among faeries.
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>>98911882
>>98911970
Nobody cares about your shit opinions tok. And you bring shame to the glorious Gore Magala by treating it like that.
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>>98909481
>Good fantasy theme
Fantasy has and always will reign supreme in CYOA themes
>Mostly 1 art style
So close...
>Pages fill out the 10 000px image lenght limit
Very good
>Text is a good size
Good and readable
>Images are neither too big nor too small, nor have they been cut into obnoxious round or irregular shapes
Perfect
>Says it has 3 pages, only posts 2 pages
Post the third page already

I don't hate the design and formatting of the CYOA. This will make me give the CYOA a shot, and I will read it when I have time.
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>>98911715
Desuarchive still has it. It's an expanded version of the 3 candies cyoa in the OP.
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>>98912005
You retard tok, it's a WIP, the 3rd page isn't ready yet. Did you not see the "not available yet" options at the start?
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>>98912018
I don't read CYOAs before I decide if the CYOA is or isn't worth my time. I do a format and visual check on the CYOA first. Because if the formating and visuals are shit, chances are that the CYOA is shit. Because foramting and visuals are so fucking easy to get right, and if you mess it up like you put bright yellow text on a white background, then you are most likely a fucking retard, and the readability of the CYOA will be the least of the CYOA's many problems.

So a visual check of a CYOA is like having a food taster who checks for poison so that you don't eat poisonous food. It saves me a lot of time not having to engage with garbage CYOAs.
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>>98912049
>e if the formating and visuals are shit, chances are that the CYOA is shit
To be fair that does check out with the state of your cyoa, look like ass, play like ass.
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>>98912052
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>>98912049
I mean, skimming cyoas isn't a bad idea, I do it too, but basing it compltely on visuals is retarded. You should at least read the option names.
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>>98912060
Thank you for providing a shitty looking cyoa to prove my point.
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>>98911989
The witch types that give you fae true name and stuff have shit points which isn't good. Maybe you're right though, let me mess with a summoner build. I don't want potion 5 but I also want immortality, and summoning 5/abjuration 5/astromancy 5 does not grant it unless I can bargain for it from a demon, and that price would probably be astronomical.
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>>98912064
I'm only proving that you have shit taste when it comes to visuals
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>>98912086
>posts another shit looking cyoa
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>>98912092
Post a good-looking CYOA then, you won't, because you're a fucking coward
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>>98912097
Low hanging fruit? Maybe.
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>>98912108
So every CYOA should look like a Tankista CYOA, or it looks like shit?
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>>98912110
You asked for a good looking cyoa. Not the floor for acceptable level of visual design.
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>>98912118
If that was a good-looking CYOA, what is an excellent-looking CYOA?
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>>98912124
An excellent looking cyoa is by definition "good looking".
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>>98912130
False
Good<Excellent<Perfect

Tankista CYOAs are perfect in their visuals. They are the roof on visuals, and you tried to say they are good-looking in order to insult me, but you fucked up because if Tankista's CYOAs are good looking then you have no other CYOA that can be beyond good-looking. You fucked up, and I exposed you. 0-1 Tok, get fucked!
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>>98912147
Nta but you are being dumb about it. Its like the subgroups within real numbers.

Excellent looking is a subgroup of good looking.

A perfect person is good looking, and its also excellent looking. An excellent looking person is also good looking.

And why the fuck are you debating this? You told him to bring you a good looking cyoa, he did. Either say "okay, we all know tankista is basically the peak of that category, can you bring another example?" instead of trying to say "hmm ackssually with good looking I meant a 7/10 not higher"
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>>98912147
>False
Youre retarded. A thing cannot be considered "excellent" without first being "good".
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>>98912108
ngl that text is hell on the eyes
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>>98912147
>"a ferrari isnt a fast car because if thats a fast car there are no really fast cars"
sasuga tok
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>tok asks for good looking cyoa
>has one posted
>complains that the cyoa is too good looking and that it doesent count
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>>98911296
Pretty much their battlecry until it's their shit that gets removed, then they whine and cry about how unfair it is.
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>>98912261
idk if its tok, but it was very pathetic.
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more cyoa that mog tok to death
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>>98912385
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>>98912398
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>>98912414
>note: italics cyoa are generally quite ugly, and they still look much better than toks
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>>98909508
Hey, thanks for adding Vows Beri. My nasty little min-maxxer heart swoons for joy!

>Soulfire 4, Feral 4, Hybrid 4, Wisp Mastery, Full Manifestation [11]
I'm Firebird. I manifest as a flock of blazing sparrows or a single searing eagle. Subtlety is utterly unknown to me, luckily I am inexplicably remembered mistakenly (though this offends my vanity) yet vividly as swamp gas, a troll's flashbanging drone, a UFO or some mortal avian set alight by wildfire.
>Cyan + Pink Hybrid Ectoplasm, Second Signature, Potent Colourplasm, Weird Diet (exhilaration), Passionheart (performance) [7]
My favourite trick is to spin around wildly spewing cyan-pink globs with attuned emotions. Soothing for the scared and excitement for the interested. I dance that I might see my wonder reflected in their eyes, it is the sweetest sight. One worth all of unlife.
>Visibility 3, Audibility 2, Tangibility 2, Flight 3, Willwell (1), Vitality (3), Ectoplasm Font 1 [-2]
I Blaze Brightly non-stop except when I must dim and rekindle to banish Banes or want to use my extended Visible aura contact to smear ectoplasm on onlookers.
>Sunlight Weakness, Barrier + Otherwill Immunity [-2]
I can't stand to be outshone by the Sun and she when not Blazing my way through the affront allow myself to fade until I can write my shining afterimage on the darkness. The boundaries of other, either of property or propriety, mean nothing to me.
>Newbie Exorcist, Sole Anchor [0]
Melody's a sweet kid. I like taking her for rides, she screams and screams until she gets over her fear and lets exhilaration take hold. Then I drop her just for fun before catching her. She usually tries to exercise me after that but never follows through (well, not so far anyway...). We're in it for the long haul and I've no objections. Two lifetimes are quite enough.
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>>98912486
Oops, forgot Favours!

>Princess Support
Probably best to get all the violence out of my system before I pair up with Melody. Always wanted to set a palace on fire...

>Kill an Exorcist
Melody will probably want to try talking some sense into him and she's welcome to. When that fails I'll burn him alive. No more murder after this, promise!

>Adopt Pets
I favour birds for obvious reasons. A phoenix ghost would be best of all, the irony of an undead example of resurrective immortality!
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>>98911292
Wat
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YOU ARE GIVEN A MAGIC CUBE CAPABLE OF SIMULATING ANY CYOA OF YOUR CHOICE, BUT ONLY THREE.

Which ones do you pick? L
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>>98912555
Black Magic
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>>98911970
Almost an honour to have my work be judged by you tok.

>1 art style
Happy to pass this at least.
>You need to scale down the fucking scale on everything in your CYOA.
True, the formatting was a challenge. I tried a 10000x1800 when first starting and could not fit a thing in there. It´s like my brain fails to compute and fit both the text and the borders surrounding them.
>Title of the CYOA uses a text style for "And the Coming of Fall" which is not thematic
The cyoa is about halloween, which occur during the fall. I did however, include the succeeding season as well.
>Another red flag, one of many.
A sad state of affairs, but i will take it in stride. Thank you for the blunt honesty tok, will try and do better next time. I will not reformat anything at this point, instead saving it for future works, as i grasp the gravity now. If i may ask, what are the other red flags not already mentioned? Good to have all cards on the table.

>>98909508
Are updates acceptable in the spirit of the competition? I just realized a major issue in >>98911409 that might give readers the wrong idea about an option.

>>98911786
Thank you kindly for the build anon, saved.
>Feels a bit rushed
Yes, so little time but the challenge was worth it.
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>>98911882
>Gore Magala
Stop liking the things I like, Tok!
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>>98912528
Huh?
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>>98912687
I know right? But instead of feeling bad about it just think that it's so good that even a retard like tok can't help but like it. If you let him influence you he won.
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>>98912686
>Happy to pass this at least.
It's very important to have 1 art style, most CYOAs don't so it's actually quite an achievement.
>True, the formatting was a challenge.
If you don't know how big your description text should be 12, 14 or 16 is usually the best font size, depending on the text style you choose to use. I used to use 16 for Arial, but in my later CYOAs I have shifted to 14 so I can fit more text into each page. I usually use around 300px to 400px long images in my CYOAs, sometimes much larger depending on the context like the Dragonfall map was fucking huge. But I dislike too-small images, so I always try to stay over 300px.
>The cyoa is about halloween, which occur during the fall. I did however, include the succeeding season as well.
I could not tell since nothing in the CYOA resonated with the Halloween theme. And the text style reminds me more of adventure and exploration like Indiana Jones, not Halloween.
>A sad state of affairs, but i will take it in stride. Thank you for the blunt honesty tok, will try and do better next time.
Good, I hope you do better next time or change the CYOA to make it visually better.

>>98912687
You all hate me because I am too much like you all, whether you like to admit it or not. You would fuck a horse if you were given the chance, you hypocrites.
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>>98912686
NTA but I think you shouldn't let some arbitrary contest rules limit you. The purpose of the contest is to encourage more oc contributions to the thread after all. Also I have some questions; Is the fallen knight guy evil? I didn't get that impression from his desc. What season do the Witches represent? and do you have to wait until your Witch becomes the Queen before you can have sex? My only exposure to this fairy court stuff is from Dresden File so I got a little confused about the autumn and spring stuff since those aren't part of the courts in the books.
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>>98911960
Whoops it's been three hours and I'm not done! I wanted it to be a one pager but it's 2200x7000 and it looks like I'm out of room, frustratingly. Not sure what to do about this.
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>>98912555
One piece from Lordvalmar.
Laboratorium from Tin
Spirit Conscript/Entropist depending on the day.

One Piece from lordvalmar has the waifus and low stakes adventure.
Laboratorium is the eldritch powerfantasy.

Entropist is higher than spirit conscript for me, but having to kill so much would actually suck until I get used to it. So while on the long run Entropist is way better, depending on the day I would just pick Spirit Conscript for the easier guilt free start, and in others I would just pick entropist and endure the start.

But if its a simulation, then entropist wins due to guilt free simulations
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Hey everyone. Thanks for your participation in this year's Halloween contest. I messed up on a couple things organizing it, but there was a remarkably good turnout. Either this evening or tomorrow I will go back through all the threads to make sure I didn't miss any, then compile the entries into a couple of polls for us to vote on our favorites. WIPs will be included, and honestly I considered removing the limitation on theme, since we had at least one or two that fit the spirit of the season but not Witches/Vampires. Open to feedback on that. It seems a little unfair to include a New Ghost, for example, however there were a couple of CYOAs that were explicitly stated to be entries that did not have the two monsters. I'm leaning toward the stricter side at the moment. This was a learning experience for me. Next round I will be sure to give at least three weeks or so for contests, make threadly reminders of them, and set the deadline at a time that doesn't perfectly coincide with Pollanon's monthly reviews. Talk to you all soon.
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>>98909468
One to the poor kid, one to the smelly kid, one to the persistent kid. If I get hit by eggs then so be it. Beat the evil kid to death with a heavy object when he moves out of view and hide the body.

He's guaranteed by fate to kill at least two people and rape one if he survives, so killing him is a net moral positive. Maybe the poor kid can live a good life if his story gets to continue, perhaps he' ll die of something else soon after, at least I'll have tried.
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After reviewing all the Halloween CYOAs, I think A New Ghost by Beri is objectively the best CYOA. It receives my stamp of approval, and you all should vote for it.
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>>98912816
The only serious competition for it is WIP, so yes.
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>>98912816
>>98912868
It's technically not based on the contest theme, and since Beri said it had been in the works for a while I'm not sure it can fairly be included. It should sweep in the monthly poll however. I'd be OK with adding it to the contest poll, but it seems like kind of a spit in the eye of people who deliberately worked to match the theme, when they might otherwise have made a better CYOA about something they were more interested in.
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Even at its lowest, this general is a fountain of OC. All of us anons drink from the wellspring just as we pour our souls into it. In that way, we are quenched.
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>>98912816
Rub my big old fat belly if you want to get my vote... oh tok make a big old fat anon happy and rub like you know how to do it. I am a magic old fat anon, I can make your wishes come true just rub me...
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>>98909481
Vampires are clearly much more frontloaded and martial oriented and witches can do basically nothing without prep time, which already makes for a fucked up skew in the vampires corner, but then you have vampire clan powers that are literally just true alchemy or doing things like mahitos transfiguration and they do them BETTER than witches can do their versions. Utter insanity. Witches aren't even immortal base, why would you ever pick witches?
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>>98913010
The physicals for vampires are just massively overtuned and the power limits in general not extrapolated on enough.
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>>98913033
Yea as is even just tier 3-4 on physicals for vampires are treating witch minions and stuff as fodder. Zombies, golems and whatever else are all laughably weak compared to a vampire.
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>>98913010
Sunlight weakness is a HEAVY drawback. And clans add an additional drawback. The alchemist one, for example, makes silver burn as hot as the sun to you, and you already die with the sun.

Withces dont have such a big weakness. During the day, vampires are cucked.
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>>98913096
So witches are free from vampire tyranny at least during the day, good for them.
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>>98913110
Its not that its free from vampire tyranny during the day, is that during the day they take control of the city if they want.

If you watched jojo, its like that time in battle tendency where ceasar could have killed a guy way stronger than himself merely because it was during the day, and he lost because he was an idiot.

You know a vampire is in X house (using several powers to get that info) go fight in his house and take off the roof. Good luck for him.

During the day, witches are the rulers.
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>>98912735
>12, 14 or 16
>300px to 400px
Now i see the problem...
>Indiana Jones
Funny, the font you had issue with is based on that. I was just too lazy and stressed with finishing other sections of the cyoa, so i reused old resources. But yes, to emphasize adventure was also the point.
>nothing in the CYOA resonated with the Halloween theme
The cyoa was a mess, i can admit that.
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>>98912750
You might be right. Even more so as >>98912780 definitely talks about me. I just thought the theme of Witches & Vampires, meant that you could pick either or.

>Now to your questions
Höldur is not evil exactly. Sick and delirious might be a better word, and less in control of his actions and impulses. The seasons as we know them here, work differently in the elemental plane. Where they act more like a living force. All things work in a degree of light, dark and grey which balance it all. But the dark wants everyting. The dark is autumn and winter, and they are actively altering Höldur to be an agent of theirs, showing him things until he begins to perceive the world like they do. It is still him deep down. Just with an altered world view. He´s still resisting to a degree. The queen for example, has fallen completely to their side. But still loves him and want to give birth to his children. But he is self aware enough, to know what season those children would serve.
>What season do the Witches represent
Midday stand behind fire
Unmaking began with a water affinity, but has since a few generations back, opted for blood.
Requiem stand behind spirit
Then there is the Ritual of the Flimsy, related to air and imagination
Not sure about the last witch, but i named hers the Ritual of Cultivation and is related to earth.
I would say they stand behind spring and summer, but their actions help keep the ambitions of the later seasons at bay.

>do you have to wait until your Witch becomes the Queen before you can have sex?
Yes, their power and your own, hinges on it. Something the forces working against you will try and use.
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>>98913139
No they will get horrendously molested trying to fight a vampire at all, they at least get a break during the day when all the vampires are sleeping and can go outside without fear of being raped.
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>>98913208
What is it with you and rape?
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>>98913215
What other purpose do witches have? Oh I guess they can knit enchanted sweaters for their vampire harem lords.
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>>98913208
>be vampire
>your house is destroyed
>open sky
>sunlight
Literally impossible to win but oh well, you were not the smartes guy in your class anyway
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>>98913010
oh I am picking witches for the exponentially expanding wraith swarm. The war is going to pretty much genocide humanity, but at least witches don't need human blood to live so they will survive the aftermath.
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>>98913254
>be vampire
>live in a house
lol
>>98913257
Dead within a day to both witches and vampires, you're genuinely retarded.
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>>98913257
humans dont normally possess mana and cannot hurt them in any way, so there's no such thing as an expanding wraith swarm retard
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>>98913267
>and cannot hurt them in any way
And wraiths cannot hurt them in any way*
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>>98913267
just use them to posses people and make them kill themselves.
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>>98913215
Some people have an obsession with rape because they're insecure
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>>98913275
they cant do that
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>>98913281
they are ghosts so they can
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>>98913294
No, they cannot. Show me where it says the can possess people in the cyoa.
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>>98913280
It's the only way they'll ever feel the touch of a woman
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>>98913275
I dont think that would count even if it was possible
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>>98913203
>meant that you could pick either of
This is correct.
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>>98913297
standard ghost powers, like the cyoa doesn't say anything what ghost can and can't do
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>>98913312
>source: headcanon
Glad we cleared that up.
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>>98913318
well do you have anything in the cyoa stating that wraiths can't kill people? That is also headcaonon.
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>>98911402
There's a very clear best option in this one.
Mio gets hard countered by the Hollow Beast and Willow get's no-diffed by the Fallen Soveriegn
Svetlana already knows what's going on, has no baggage holding her down, and her magic doesn't get countered by anything.
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>>98913322
Normal humans have no mana and don't die without it and their only method of attack is draining mana. Next headcanon of yours please.
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>anon is furiously coping about how his definitely not suicidal plan definitely works
Witchkeks are too funny
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>>98913329
normal witches are humans and vampires convert human blood into mana, so its seems like humans do have mana.
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>>98913263
>lol
you skipped a whole section buddy
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>>98913343
All witches are inhuman, the normal witch explicitly says you were human. Magic is not something normal people have an everything about witches supports this. Please continue with your headcanon.
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>>98913346
>be vampire
>live in house
Major poorfag detected
>>98913343
Humans have to be injected with both blood and mana to be turned into vampires and the servant section pretty succinctly shows normies can't learn it.
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>>98913356
no it explicitly states "you are fully human", the not human part is "at the very least" means at the absolute minimum you were human which is a minority. Have better reading comprehension your making you own headcanon.
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>>98913374
Normal witch outright tells you you're inhuman. Try again.
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its pretty obvious this is based on like soul-eater style witches and that normies don't have mana and spellcraft.
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>>98913367
>Major poorfag detected
You still didn't read the cyoa. Come back when you hmm... read it
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>>98913096
>Sunlight weakness is a HEAVY drawback
Vitality, the stat vampires are going to buy anyway for curse immunity, literally gets rid of it.
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>>98913381
Are you fucking illiterate or are you trolling? It verbatum says "Like most witches, you are fully human" there is literally an Or after that sentence showing that the inhuman witches are a minority. have better reading comprehension
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>>98909481
Doesn't a level 5 glamour effectively win the witches the war? Simply create a glamour of a second sun rising at night relative to the city and then abuse glamour 5 to make it behave like the actual sun in relation to vampires, being able to trick all 5 senses means it can behave precisely as the sun would to someone not resistant to illusions.
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>>98913408
>anon could not afford anything better than a house
Low-class vampire.
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>>98913416
>Simply create a glamour of a second sun
>>98913413
>>Sunlight weakness is a HEAVY drawback
>Vitality, the stat vampires are going to buy anyway for curse immunity, literally gets rid of it.
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>>98913414
>anon cannot read the whole normal witch option
Incredible readlet powers. Thanks for posting proofs witches are inhuman.
>>98913416
It's nearly that strong. Creating something that big is not possible, its effects are limitied, and like picrel has a stupidly vague and confusing method of actually working.
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>>98913430
its not nearly that strong*
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>>98913430
okay your just retarded illiterate... I am not going to continue arguing with you because you probably can't even read what I am writing.

What kind of retard do you need to be to read "Like most witches, you are fully human" and say that all witches are inhuman.
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>witches are readlets still floundering about on how to beat vampires
Witchcuties, you can't win.
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>>98913203
Thanks for the answers. Looking forward to the finished version if you decide to keep working on it. Which I think you should.
>>98913325
My thoughts exactly. On physical attractiveness alone I would have probably gone with Willow if it wasn't for her personality. Unfortunately I'm not enough of a saviourfag to handle that.
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>>98913443
>at the very least, you were human
Try harder next time readlet-kun. Normies don't have mana and magic.
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>>98913454
sure... sure... readlet-kun if you keep saying that it might become true
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>>98913462
>if you read the cyoa its true
Correct.
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>>98913474
heh... then provide me the source? You have no evidence, while I have a literal quote straight from the cyoa "Like most witches, you are fully human".
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At this point, it's clear thst Blood Moon is the winner of the cyoa contest.
Anons cannot shut up about it.
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>>98913435
It doesn't need to be particularly 'huge' as an objective size, you can exploit the benefits of perspective and conditional changing to make a couple of meters wide sphere a few kilometers up and to all observers it would appear as an actual sun. We also know that there wouldn't be a range issue given it would be incredibly odd if the personal glamours had a pop in range or their reflections behaved weirdly at long distances.

The potency of the story here would be extremely strong given everyone in the city will have no choice but to believe in it, so saying it couldn't replicate the sun is entirely headcanon on your part.

>>98913429
A lot of vampires suck, if you cut vamp numbers by upwards of 50% sure the strong remain but its a massive boon.
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>>98913483
nah the amount of shitposts don't determine the quality of the cyoa, Personally I would say that new ghost is a winner because it has a lot more builds.
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>>98913482
>heh... then provide me the source?
>>98913414
Picrel

>>98913494
Even if you broke the masquerade and made the sun which would get you killed by other witches vampires can destroy and counter it, and its limited effects meaning it wouldn't affect vampires anywhere near like a real sun. You're grasping at straws like the other retarded witchcuck. Anons are so desperate to not be shit but the cyoa doesn't support witches at all. Lul.
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>>98913509
>Picrel
do you understand what "Or" and "at the very least" means?
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>>98913494
I have an extremely hard time believing glamour could actually generate any meaningful amount of light comparable to a sun. Witch powers are very limited, glamour more so. Also yea, its not working on anybody and even in the miniscule chance it does its not working like a real sun, maybe giving them minor burns at best.
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>>98913520
I accept your concession.
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Reminder that all witch things need to be recharged with mana and are not indefinite effects.
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>>98913532
yeah, I accept you concession glad that we agree that most witches are fully human
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>>98913543
headcanonlet is actually dying on this hill|
Lul witchcucks are so retarded.
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>>98913550
He's desperate for his nonsensical plan to work when everyone knows it doesnt. Witchkeks have nothing, you gotta give them some forgiveness.
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>>98913499
>nah the amount of shitposts don't determine the quality of the cyoa
Untrue. Shitpost density is a great indicator of anons actually caring about a cyoa. If anons made 100 builds, but barely talk about a cyoa, then they aren't as invested as a cyoa where there theres 10 builds and 200 posts arguing about powers.
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>>98913509
>Even if you broke the masquerade and made the sun which would get you killed by other witches
Mass hysteria
>b-b-but
Mass. Hysteria. Explains everything free of charge, city full of people completely believe there's a sun there, mass hysteria, no problem at all so long as you set the conditionals right.

On them countering it, the idea is for it to be several kilometers up, so unless you have some idea on how they would A detect a minor magical effects precise location from that distance and B actually get someone up there to destroy it and C stop me from immediately repairing it/having backups, I'd say its pretty safe.

Again the effects thing is gross headcanon on your part, you cannot substantiate any claims on how strong or weak it would be at effecting vampires. Vitality also doesn't actually make you immune to the sun, it removes the power weakening and grants resistance which is wholly different from it doing nothing.

I'm not saying that vampires don't have some innate bonuses over witches, I'm saying that I am simply sufficiently better than you that the difference doesn't matter.
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>>98913571
Anon made a WIP urban fantasy martials vs casters but made the martials really overtuned and the casters really undertuned. It's generating discussion by sheer buzzword posting.
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>>98913575
TLDR more witch headcanon about how glamour is stronger than it says it is. Nice. Witchkek, give it up. Your illusion is going to get countered and does not work in any meaningful way the way you want it too.
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>>98909481
is the author even still alive?
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>>98913575
>anon thinks the illusion can generate enough light to be a sun
>anon calls it a minor magical effect yet thinks its going to be strong enough to kill vampires
>anon thinks people will acknowledge this as anything more than a weird looking star
>anon thinks he will get away with this when vampires can fly, everyone can detect magic, and even other witches don't want you breaking the masquerade
>final sentance is "nah i'd win"

Witchkeks are on total suicide watch, its over. Its just headcanon after headcanon.
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>>98913583
the shitposting killed them
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>>98913587
It has been one day, they're probably working on it with how much feedback they got.
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itt CONNIVING witches are MINDBROKEN and MESMERISED into PERSONAL ONAHOLES by NOBLE vampires
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Enchantment 5 + Curses 5 can make artifacts of you-fucking-lose. And Glamour 5 users can just assassinate all the problematic vamps with them.
Even Might 5 users need to actually parry instant death spells, it is not a passive action.
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>>98913593
Vampires have their own assassins which go fully invisible, can do things like mind-reading, destroying illusions or teleporting through mirrors, and even perception 2 on vampires lets you bypass illusions. Anything a witch can attempt, a vampire does 10x better.
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OC OC OC
Welcome to the Psych Ward
(based on an idea I had in the shower this morning)

>>98911960
Hehe I accidentally worked six hours straight on this instead of two, but I'm pleased with the result. Haven't made a CYOA in years, and it was fun to flex my writing muscles and imagination in a way I don't really get to often.

Things might be a little misaligned graphically, and it's definitely smushed together. Wasn't really trying to make a pretty one this time, and I wanted to fit it on one page
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>>98913593
Especially since the effectiveness of might 5 depends on the difference in mana. It can be overpowered if one uses more mana on the spell then the vampires uses to cast their might.
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>>98913593
>the gun with bullets that take god knows how many resources to enchant with an instant death spell
>tier 3 celerity already lets you dodge someone shooting at you
its. over.
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>>98913610
Not to mention a vampire just blocking it with something, or god forbid being an amonite who just kill you as a ghost lmao
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>>98913603
>perception 2 on vampires lets you bypass illusions

Only of equal or lower level.

>>98913610
Can't dodge if you don't know you need to dodge in the first place.
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>>98913618
>amonite who just kill you as a ghost

They can't.
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>>98913622
>Only of equal or lower level.
Doesn't say that. Vampires also sense mana as well.
>Can't dodge if you don't know you need to dodge in the first place.
Vampire senses are high enough they will know. Even if you have more cope celerity 5 actually does do this as its ultra instinct.
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>>98913577
>It's generating discussion by sheer buzzword posting.
And?
That means the author made a cyoa that anons care about. The fact anons care about stupid shit isn't relevant.
A good product is the one that sells, not the one with the highest quality.
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>>98913627
>Doesn't say that.
I take that back, I was thinking of a different power. Doesn't matter though to be honest there are other ways to recognize it outside of just seeing it.
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>>98913629
>A good product is the one that sells, not the one with the highest quality.
This idea burns autists like sunlight to a vampire.
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>>98913627
>Doesn't say that. Vampires also sense mana as well.

Read the cyoa. Again. Slowly. Surely.

>celerity 5 actually does do this as its ultra instinct

And Glamour 5 counters precog.
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>>98913641
>And Glamour 5 counters precog.
Doesn't counter vampire 5 as its not precog.
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>>98909477
>Page 1
>Is the only page
I guess the author chose trick instead of treat.
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>>98913641
>Glamour 5 counters precog.
Vampires don't have precog. That's a Witch power.
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Glamour is just illusions, it takes negative seconds to realize whatever shit isnt real.
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>>98913657
>Glamour is just illusions
Except Glamour 5. Then the illusions are semi-real and actually hurt you.
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>>98913647
It is. Otherwise it is something even worse, because subconsciousness still works with your senses.
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>>98913662
No they aren't, it takes a mountain of people believing in it to even start to have a real effect. Meanwhile umbramancy can destroy magical and intangible effects and be made completely physical with a combination. Everything witches do vampires do better, there's a reason there's two clans of vampire assassins and not one of witch assassins. Lol.
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>not using astromancy to sit in your goon dimension and then just casting spells out of it
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>>98913673
Because witches don't even have clans...
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>thinking your goon dimension isn't a featureless void
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the witch experience
>fighting a vampire
>pretty difficult since the fucker is punching all of your instant death spells and dodging them, but you can see five seconds into the future so you get a few hits in
>luckily your illusions are holding up, so he can't see you
>manage to kill him for the 4th time, but he keeps reviving for some reason
>the moment your mana runs out one of his buddies comes out of your shadow and permanently turns you into a sex thrall
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>>98913664
>It is.
No, it isn't. Highlighted words are specific powers. Precog is the Divination 5 power. Vampires don't have access to Divination 5.
Vampire Celerity and Perception are not Precog.
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>>98913686
>Highlighted words are specific powers.
It amazes me how many Witchtards can't read their own fucking power section.
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>>98913684
Vamps still use mana too.
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>>98913695
Vamps can restore mana with blood. Keep a few bloodbags as free mana potions.
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clearly the optimal strat is to use animancy 5 to steal a vampire body. Then you have benefits of both.
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>>98913684
>the witch experience
>>fighting a vampire
>>dies because they move faster than the human eye can see and kill you instantly
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>>98913701
And witches have Mana Crystals.
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>>98913712
You need to take very specific powers for that, which are bad for combat.
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>>98913708
But it turns out to be an illusion and the overconfident bloodsucker suffers instadeath.
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>>98913705
>clearly the optimal strat is to use animancy 5 to steal a vampire body.
You need to somehow subdue a vampire first. Good Luck.
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Wtf why is everyone arguing about blood moon again
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>>98913719
See >>98913684
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>>98913721
oh just subdue a lower level one and then go up the hierarchy.
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>>98913716
Anon, witches work in covens, they cooperate with each other. Mana Crystals is something you can just buy in the cyoa.
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>>98913732
Vampires can't understand the concept of working together because their powers suck for sharing stuff
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>>98913732
And they're not restricted to witches...
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>>98913705
Depending on how that interacts with Thrall 4, you might accidentally commit suicide meeting the wrong vampire.
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>>98913716
both of them are pretty great at combat I would say. Enchanting gives you resistance to Mesmarism, fligh, speed so you can partially keep up with celerity and Elementalism. While abjuration makes you tanky enough to withstand a nuke and also allows you to reflect damage.
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>>98913729
Thrallmaxxers aren't very dangerous compared to full combat builds.
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>>98913740
>Be a Weak Vampire gets captured by a witch
>It's over tm
>Witch Laughes maniacly
>Watch in horror as they strsp you down and tear out their own soul
>They shove it in your mouth
>>They shove it in your mouth?
>You shallow
>Witch is Suprise Pikachu and dies
>Walk out confused
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>>98913747
>They shove it in your mouth
This reminds me that Thrall 4 doesn't specify "Drained of Blood", it just says "Drained to Death".
Watch out for Femvampires anons.
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>>98913768
>Thrall 4 doesn't specify "Drained of Blood", it just says "Drained to Death".
>Watch out for Femvampires anons
It's so over witchbros
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>>98913775
This must be why all the witches we see are female. Male witches are the natural prey of Vampire Queens.
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>>98909481
I'm just waiting for the finished version, I want to see what the custom options do.
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>>98913775
It's only over for vampussy seekers, and they are a very rare breed.
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>>98913785
>This must be why all the witches we see are female
I just thought all witches are female
are you telling me there are moids among us?
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>>98913785
>Male witches are the natural prey of Vampire Queens.
>>98909591
>At least make yourself a girl so you have some value to vampbvlls.
>Not getting raped by a yandere vampire queen
>I refuse.
Anon isn't gonna make it.
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>>98913793
Some of the pics are literally dudes and there's no mention of a gender requirement
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>>98913789
>and they are a very rare breed.
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>>98913793
yes anon, all the vampires and witches are female its all part of the magical process of becoming one, the cyoa is about toxic yuri
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>>98913768
>This reminds me that Thrall 4 doesn't specify "Drained of Blood", it just says "Drained to Death".
Kek.
Definitely unintended, but still funny.
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>>98913799
This is false because nu-cyoag authors could never cook like that
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>>98913799
>the cyoa is about toxic yuri
Get out of here Epstein.
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>>98913793
If a cyoa doesn't mention forced BTG, there is no forced BTG.
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>fighting vampire queen
>use precognition to see into the future
>the only possible future is your cock facing might 5 suction that could put the byford dolphin diving accident to shame
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>>98913811
all cyoas should have forced BTG
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>>98913811
it calls you a witch therefore you're a girl now harriette
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>>98913847
And I call you a niggerfaggot.
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>>98913865
good thing we aren't playing your cyoa then :)
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niggerfaggot cyoa when?
like you can choose which type of nigger you want to be: house, field, lightskin, yn
and then what kind of faggot and I don't know maybe you get powers from different kinds of faggotry
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>>98913882
no, the two sides have to be at war so people can argue which one is better
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>>98913606
Is this a CYOA for giants?
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>>98913606
That's a nice cyoa, although the thread is currently consumed by the contest
Build:
I'm literally God
>Persuasion is the power most likely to get me out of here and overconfidence is the closest to my personality
Friends:
Penelope Pippa Pallas
>She is cute, I am going to have sex with her
Goro
>A great soldier for the cause, if a little enthusiastic. I can't be dying before finishing my DESTINY
Items:
A Master Key
>I FUCKING LOVE SECRETS
The Jamiroquai's Bible
>A map is good and there's probably some other useful stuff in this
>Like any other bible, it should contain some vague prophecy about my personal life, so that will be fun to look out for
>(Note that the more holy the bible the more accurate it gets about the one true saviour, Me)
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>>98913890
I may have forgotten how sizing works hehe.
Later I'll shrink and see if I can fit more on the page, since I had a lot of other ideas.
>>98913898
Thank you! I'd say you're well equipped to find secrets with Goro as your guard and Pippa as your guide.

I don't really know what the contest is I'll have to scroll up and read, but as long as one person enjoys I'm happy.
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>>98913911
About two and a half weeks ago an anon declared there would be a cyoa contest for halloween, then set a poll where we voted from a list of monster options
Witch/Vampire won said poll
Then anons had until a few hours ago to make cyoa's about witches / Vampires
It's gotten I think like 4 submissions, which is pretty good all things considered, although they have been a little rushed
This contest was inspired by a previous contest for: "Death and immortality", which was loosely inspired by an informal contest a great while ago about "Pact"s

The contests are good for oc, although it comes in clumps because everyone waits till the deadline to post

This is unrelated to the polls which started in January
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>>98913931
Ah that explains why there was ANOTHER witch/vampire CYOA today haha. Sounds cool I'm glad you guys are keeping the general alive and well. I'll participate next time ^^
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>>98911292
Refuse the offers and report both as sex offenders, having the kids mention incriminating stuff, that i totally never had them practice beforehand.

Then get working to provide for them, while acting as a good role model.
Orphilia shall be a doctor or a chef, Abby gets put in sports until she takes a liking to one. Austin will run a few games with me and get to meet new people. Finding him a job is also on the to do list.

Your work with the image borders is something else my man.

Justice for the orphans, Orphilia especially.
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I swear you guys only think about sex.
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>>98913606
This is actually cool. It's simple and funny. Maybe I will post a build later, instead of keeping it to myself like usual.
>>98913911
>Later I'll shrink and see if I can fit more on the page, since I had a lot of other ideas.
I'm curious to see what those are. It's been a while since a cyoa about a relatively mundane scenario was funny enough for me to care.
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>>98914040
hungry man thinks of bread
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>>98914058
Hogs?
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>>98914053
Thanks. I know there's not many choices to make but I'd still love to see your build. Really glad you like it.

I'd like to add 'threats', maybe a few locations to make your home base. Stuff that's fun and adds to the world, if you can call it that.
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>>98914066
No, not yet, it's page 5. No new bread for you.
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>>98914066
Mild
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>>98913606
The waifus suck ass. Can I fuck Doctor Dee instead?
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>>98914137
You can certainly try, but it won't be easy. It's hard to get close to her, she views you as a test subject, and she's swamped with admirers. If only there was a way to potentially get access to her...
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>>98914157
Does she ever disguise herself as one of the patients?
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>>98913606
>Dude the voices
Guess my attempt at making a tulpa was TOO succesful
>Loulou
There is something oddly appealing to giving scritches to this beast of a woman... Could do without getting pissed on though.
>Penelope Pippa Pallas
Mostly picking her up because she is cute but the looting expeditions are promising regardless.
>Loaded gun
Might come in handy besides chances are Penelope can steal some ammo for it. Hopefully i won't have to use it, thankfully with the counsel of my friends living rent free on my head i will definitively totally know the moments where there is no other option but to fire.
>The bible
Has some interesting info that could be useful on the long run.
>Important note
How the fuck is Dr.Dee such a cute dork?
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>Kill the heavens cyoa
>Section where you must pick a generation
>It locks you out of higher realms
>Cultivation cyoa
Who made this garbage?
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>>98914038
Thank you, Nice build
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>>98914208
IIRC, only Ancestors truly can't go further after chargen. Everything else is about chargen maximums.
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>>98914208
it doesn't, you're already at the max cultivation realm if you pick that and don't somehow fuck up your realm, growing past realm 10 doesn't involve cultivating anymore, you're at the stage where you're supposed to go kill the heavens

i think it's a more useful reminder that talent exists so that you can be neurotic for a while before realizing you can just pick some combo of customizable traits that makes you replenish your own talent
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>>98909481

Reading Enchantment, it says "power equivalent to or less than level 4's." And it says "Affinities count as Level 2, Fae Power as Level 3, and Clan Powers as Level 4 for the purposes of level-dependent effects." So a Witch with Enchantment 5, can create Enchatnments of any Affinity, Fae Power, or Clan Power out there. And technically, it doesn't say the Enchantment has to be among the powers you have, so any of the Witch and possibly also the Vampire Powers up to Level 4, are possible.

The Witch Meta is therefore clear. Mana Crystal, Enchantment 5, and enough minions to hold them all. If a Vampire is trying to fight you, you activate your Teleportation Circle to go to the next city over, and teleport in simultaneously 300 Homunculus with a dozen Enchantments each, which vary between your Level 5 Powers and General Level 4 Powers, to jump the Vampire in question via each of them having an Enchantment with the same True Name.

And since Enchantments only decay with use and not time, you can theoretically stock up as many of these as your Mana and resources allow, which should be a lot, given money's usually no object for supernaturals, and Mana you refill in an hour's time anyhow. Witches can just stock up these disposable armies, and hand out the keywords to each other, to ensure their safety in case of attack.

It's not the 1 Vampire vs 1 Witch matchup that should be considered here, it's 1 Vampire vs 300 Teleporting Homunculus with a dozen enchantments each, that should be considered.
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>>98914266
In the level 1 description it says "your witch powers" and it's implied to continue like that
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>>98914266
It is about General Enchantments, and this term isn't explained anywhere.
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>>98914280
Nta but I'm not sure why enchanting keeps fucking people up
Charge is the effect you get at level 1 the. Upgrades at every level, but you also get some other stuff too
Charge is the one that lets you enchant stuff with your witch powers, general enchantments are different
Not sure I buy being able to enhant stuff with vampire powers tho
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If you want all the powers, all of them, you need to go for something like Enchanting + Demonic Essence.
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>>98914208
Play a better cultivation cyoa then
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>>98914231
>>98914257
The cyoa says that exceeding your maximum cultivation realm only grants a minor increase in strength. Which would mean that a disciple, whose maximum is 4, barely gets anything out of reaching 5. Alternatively, it means that you can't be a disciple and start at a higher realm than 4. The same sentence can be interpreted in multiple ways. I hate that.
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>>98914208
Just don't pick to be a used up old raisin that peaked thousands of years ago?
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>>98914208
Autism
>>98914329
Seething
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>>98914335
>The cyoa says that exceeding your maximum cultivation realm only grants a minor increase in strength
That's only in chargen, going higher afterwards works normally
Unless you picked ancestor as your generation
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People with WEAK INTERPRETATION can't survive in cyoas.
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>>98914366
>t. Weak interpretation anon
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>>98914366
Stop sucking yourself off, metafag
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Tok is courting death by existing on the same dimension as me.
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ENTROPISTANON, I AM GOING TO FUCKING KILL YOU AND SKIN YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY IN FRONT OF YOU IF YOU DON'T RELEASE CONQUEST IN THE NEXT 5 ATTOSECONDS!
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>>98909481
>Hire 4 assistant witches
>Make them make tons of lvl 1 manaburst amulets
>Make a contraption that can fire them at a very very fast speed in quick succession
>Drown vampires in a tidal wave of mana bursts
>After you are done you can simply recycle the amulets to use for later
>If the vampire(s) survived they are injured and you have not spent a single bit of your own mana giving you an advantage
>You could also give the contraptions to homunculi for fire support instead so you can focus on throwing stronger spells into the mix
I AM A GENIUS
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>>98914430
This is like shooting the hulk with nerf darts.
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>>98914505
That would imply that all vampires are vitality 5 giganiggas and that is not the case
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>>98914518
Even at tier 2 vitality you aren't doing anything to them but tickling them with a tier one shitty enchantment thing.
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>>98914524
>tier one shitty enchantment thing

I really don't think it is worse than small arms fire. His plan is still retarded though.
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>>98914524
Probably effective until vit 3 though
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>>98909481
>Planning to buy a Might unholy shard and then boost it with a strength potion to multiply it by 2
>Might 3 males anything that affects the body cost way more mana
That'e very annoying...
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>>98914577
high might by itself really means nothing if you dont also have the speed and endurance to back it up.
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>>98913606
>l'm Literally God
>Loulou and Penelope
>Mater Key and Bible

This place is clearly hiding something, something meant for me! I will find the secret of the labirynth and emerge as the master of the wards. With a guard dog and a guide cat I won't get lost or harmed, but why would they harm me in the first place? I am god after all, they should worship me instead.
>>98914070
>I'd like to add 'threats', maybe a few locations to make your home base.
That does sound fun, the locations in particular could add to the "lore" of the world. Personally I went with this fake chosen one build, I think it would be funny if there really is something supernatural going on, I mean there is a talking octopus.
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>>98914605
So if you don't get vitality you are just going to explode anyways? That's even more annoying will a resistance potion do or do i have to chug a regen potion every time i punch for real?
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I am god though. I don't get the joke.
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>>98914642
It's a non-god thing you wouldn't get it.
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This is a mortalKING general
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>>98914634
you don't explode from your own strength with might
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The only thing I care about is giggly fae pussy, and Witch is the only one with access to it.
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>>98909481
Summoning would be a lot more interesting if they were mystical nature/elemental spirits or something instead of demons and fey which are in fantasy both very prone to fucking over their bargainers. Or even just stick with fae but make them interesting elemental/nature spirits the user can conjure to help them and bargain with naturally like ancient magus bride.
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>>98914676
So what's the problem then
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>>98914693
There is a fuckton of different types of Fae so chances are you can find one you like.
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>>98914634
No you're just still weak, who cares if you can flip cars if you still get outsped by a vampire of similar level and die to the same things a normal squishy human dies too. Strength by itself means nothing in a fight with opponents that have strength + speed + durability + hax.
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>>98914724
Demons are probably wont to ask for blood sacrifices and such while fae are going to try to steal your memories or some shit.
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>>98914693
Dealing with demons is like dealing with a bank. If you can successfully navigate commerce with evil people who want to hurt you then you can navigate commerce with demons and fairies who are pretentious people who want you to think they're very smart.
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>>98914767
>Demons
>Not asking for blood sacrifices
?????
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>>98914751
It isn't like might 3 is all you have though
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>>98914780
Read that post a second time and then delete yours in shame.
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>>98914786
>Wont to ask
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>>98914786
Nta. I know what you mean, but it's a very strange way to say it and I'm sure a lot of people, especially joung people, don't know that's a thing. It's something that may as well join the likes of "thou" and other old english things.
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>>98914814
esl-kun...
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>>98914814
Huh?
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>>98914830
Don't slander esls like that. I'm esl and I know what that meant.
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>>98914335
no, that's talking about starting strength, not the stuff you can get after you start
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I ran out of opus 200 dollar tier.
Cyoas for this feel?
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>>98914849
>>98914849
>>98914849
>>98914849
hogs in the wilderness



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