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>>98911350DO YOU LIKE LE ORKS LE XD XD :DD XDD XDDD?
>>98911350>1. What's the musical theme and/or music you like that fits the tone of /yourdudes/?First thing that comes to mind is megadeth.>2. In your opinion(s) what makes someone's homebrew army/lore interesting when it comes to first impressions?Probably doing something compelling that is in line with the setting of 40k. As in, using the grimdark nature of it in a way that actually interests me.
Something about all marines is just so tedious to sit down and paint for me
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
I have figured out what I want to paint for the next collage. Can it be a pop culture reference? I assumed it had to be a reference from these threads (dead yiffs, o&t marines, orks XD etc)
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>>98911382NOOOOOOOOOOO. SAVE THE ELVES
>>98911350>1. What's the musical theme and/or music you like that fits the tone of /yourdudes/?I always think of Water Ruin, from Jet Force Gemini, as their general theme, and Valley of the Kings by Gamma Ray as their "wartime" theme.
40k fans will unironically ostracize anybody who is critical of 11th ed and try to force them out, then act like everybody loves 11ththey do not see the problem they are creating
>>98911366>Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98911404The one thing 95% of 40k fans can agree on is that [current edition] sucks ass, even the ones who keep playing anyway because it's the path of least resistance. The ones who get defensive about it because they've invested their identity into GW are a minority.
>>98911393OH FUCK
>>9891140411th Ed sucks, I think the core rules are decent but the codex creep is real and the difference between 10th and 11th ed ones are too wide. I only play casually and at least my playgroup is decent enough to not skew list.The mission pack also sucks, with every game being 90+ on either side. Just had a 99-98 game yesterday, scoring primary is extremely easy and even though you can prevent them from scoring anything in a round, they can max it out later. And secondaries are extremely difficult to prevent from scoring, I hate how the game comes down to the cards you draw which is random rather than how you play.
>>98911424Steel rain!
>>98911424This probably wouldn't happen to me because I generally only accidentally spike my models into the ground immediately after varnishing them.
>>98911350>TQ 1No idea since their Tyranids>TQ2something that fits into the universe and feels organic. I don't want to hear about super special mary sue marines being the best at everything.
KINDKOLOSSALKUSTODESKNOCKERS
>>98911422>>98911431wdym, the 40k discord says everybody loves it
>>98911467I don't care what others think, just speaking from my own experience with the game.
>look at model online>get really excited and it looks super cool>order it>it arrives>excitement is lostWhat causes this idiocy and how do I stop it?
>>98911472order cooler models
>>9891140411th editions is not great but a step up from the abyssmal 10th. 11th just suffers from being based on 10th.
>>9891143111 edition completely killed all non-competitive play.In 10th you could have your random models play crusade and stand in circles and pretend they are relevant.In 11th if you are not a tournament optimized list you lose on deploy step.
I'm going to make a big push to finish this army this week. And by finish I mean have 2000 points of painted models. Still a bunch of models in the queue
hehe my dark eldar listis half Corsair shit because the factions are competing against eachother
>>98911487lose on deploy? you can lose at listbuilding these days
>>98911487I had experience with crusade as well, it started out nice but it spiraled into metafaggotry too quick to the point we stopped playing as it was not fun anymore. You need a CM with an iron fist to prevent skew lists into each other.
>>98911518Losing in the listbuilding stage is not new, people just give enough of a fuck about how good their armies are now to notice it
in my experience, the modern editions of 40k always result in SOMEONE not having fun in some waycan't use the models you like because they're not "meta"can't play the list you want because it's shit (e.g I like mechanized infantry) and you'll easily losesomeone is getting shitstomped half the time, resulting in one player not having fun, and the other half of the time its two miserable "meta" lists slugging it out
Do these guys count as a reference? Surely the guy with the hat is a reference to slash.
Are these issues avoided by only playing with friends?
>>98911448>No idea since their TyranidsRecommending Deep Rock Galactic swarm/dreadnought themes
Still no LotDIt's going to be 2027 isn't it?
>>98911540Every issue can be avoided by playing with friends so long as your friends aren't retards and also want to have fun
>>98911534You have identified correctly that competitive games tend to have a winner and loser, and listbuilding will trend towards an optimal meta as time progresses.>>98911540Unless your friends are big tourneyfags who refuse to sandbag a little for the sake of fun, that should do it.
>>98911382Clean your home up
>>98911404The "new bad old good" gremlins are thankfully a small minority irl, they just dominate discussion online. 11th is good, as 40k goes.
the fuck is 11th edish even about. Where is the hype why is GW so quiet
>>98911562DP is a great upgrade to the army building. Balance is awful and the whole 'stealth updates via the broken ass app' is something someone deserves to beaten to death with hammers for.
Are blood angels really that bad of a state?Like can't they just use the generic marine detachments and find success with that until they get their supplement or would that work?One guy at my LGS has been bitching about the faction being dead and I'm curious if he's just being whiny.
>>98911382did the cat doodoo on the carpet over there?
>>98911568I'm so tired of these zoomers expecting 40k to have some sort of ongoing narrative. The whole point is to have an open setting where your plastic dudes can roll dice to kill anyone else's plastic dudes.
>>98911573*or would that not workjesus christ im retarded
>>98911576no, that was me.my bad.
>>98911577because they think 40k is the sequel to their Horus Heresy Black Library sloppa.
>>98911570>Balance is awful and the whole 'stealth updates via the broken ass app' is something someone deserves to beaten to death with hammers for.Balance is unironically as good as it has ever been with only a few factions genuinely struggling even when good players use them, and they've already promised patchnotes in the future. Playing rules wrong without realising is practically a tradition.
>>98911585balance is not good, there is just forced scoring which makes games artificially closed because never has whats written on a units data sheet meant less
>>98911573BA players seem to want to play in one specific way and it currently isn't very good. Sang Guard are still strong, and their characters are okay. They lack the OP terminator combos Ultras and DA have, but they can still put eradicators in an impulsor. It's mostly just a refusal to adapt from a hyper-specialised gameplan and seeing the grass is greener on the other side.
>>98911587lol okay nogames.
>>98911404That's how all fandoms work. A minority of social leeches enforce their "peace" by rooting out any negativity. We have some here.They see the problem but they project it onto whatever fits their narrative.
>>98911590>Blood Angels are actually really good bro, you just have to run Sanguinary Guard.lollmao
>>98911587balance was never and will never be perfect. accept it or go play chess.
>>98911595chess is imbalanced asf though
>>98911597subtle bait
>>98911600NTA but doesn't the guy gong first have a huge advantage
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/nuc8rzsm/new-horus-heresy-battle-group-boxes/
>>98911600
>>98911602Depends on your level.Introducing echo chess: each player writes a move in secret, each turn sees both moves played at once. Pieces can mutually take themselves.
>>98911604That's a cool ravenguard demi-company box. Might get it one day if the price is good (+ discount)>>98911605You should always switch sides. They do that in Space Hulk too, and it used to be part of the rules in oldhammer iirc.
>>98911604I know some people love this aesthetic but god those boxes just look grim and boring to me. It's everything people accuse primaris of being.
>>98911573They struggle into Terminator Storm Force space marine builds because blood angels have a shitton of d2 weapons and that detachment can give terminators -1 damage taken with a stratagem. They could do it themselves but other marines have damage 3 dev wounds thunder hammers and blood angels don't have as many of those. Also have to factor in that tournament players will just play whatever faction is meta and ignore paint, so the good bangels players are playing red ultramarines + red deathwatch. that just leaves the bad ones throwing death company intercessors up the board and demanding that it works
>>98911604>30 tactical marines>30 tactical marines but slightly differentlol
>>98911595Isn't chess mostly a memory game at this point?
what kind of dices do you guys use?consider buying these
>>98911604>33 miniatures >42 miniatures What's the catch?
>>98911630the catch is you have to play h*rus h*resy or you can use the vehicles in 40k, i guess
>>98911604>army box full of beakiessick
>>98911631they gave the okay for tactical marines to be used as primaris intercessors, so now the flood gates are opened to use literally everything in that box for 40K
>>98911604Why can't 40k boxes look like this? If these are going to be priced around $270-300 they're fucking steals.
>>98911508Those 3 guys look like they should be triplets who all became marines together.
>>98911404Isn't 40k meant to be a shit game? The only positives I ever hear are about the model quality, admittedly this is going away as time passes, and how ubiquitous it is.
>>98911593Well yeah you're supposed to use the superior sculpts
>>98911624yeah, but so is competitive 40k just with a little bit of variance through dice rolls, but thats why they introduced so many re-rolls. so that comp fags dont get frustraded as much.
>>98911667nta but I think these are shit, don't fit warhammer at all. But again that's the point of AoS.
>>98911669No human plays Nu 40k anon. Actual 40k players are playing things from 1st to 7th. Yes even 6th is more 40k than whatever the fuck this is.
>>98911695I think you need to step outside of your echo chambers for a bit because this level of delusion isn't healthy
>>98911696But is true, humans do not play modern 40k.There are things that use human language to spout things about balance and winrates
>>98911688>don't warhammer at allIt's literally just a marine but better
>>98911703What makes it better?
Show yourself, decalfag
>>98911523this is exactly the problem I have. buddy and I have been playing 10e crusade and tried to establish some rules regarding units but now a year in he basically forgot our no legendaries rule since it's making for a better list and me saying anything about it is being a bad player apparently how do you meta police your crusade games when GW obviously can't be fucked to do so?
>>98911631>>98911641You can run them as CSM as well, don't forget about us hehehe
>>9891140410th edition fucking gutted 40k and left its corpse spasming on the ground. I genuinely think they tried their hardest to fix 11th within a 10th paradigm, and pretty much every change to the core rules is good, but it's all just lipstick on a pig. Pretty much anything that wasn't a total rewrite of the game was doomed to failure. You can't build on a ruined foundation. As an aside, one of the complaints I hear a lot about 11th is about the setup time for terrain templates and layouts. This is a self inflicted problem. If you just fucking put terrain on the board until it looks fun to play on, then declare which pieces of terrain are objectives, the game is both more fun and quicker to set up. People are so fucking hung up about GW's SUGGESTIONS that they follow them as commandments
>>98911721>People are so fucking hung up about GW's SUGGESTIONS that they follow them as commandmentstrue. this is partly the fault of the MTG crowd that has infiltrated it as a "competitive" game and partly the accessibility of guides and tutorials online that will always have a superfan / comeptitive focus. the vast vast majority of games are played casually and you can literally just put terrain down randomly and do whatever you want.but similar to 5th, if you have to house rule everything why use the rule set at all? why pay for rules you have to fix yourself? why are we getting used car fixer upper performance at new car prices?
>>98911728I mean that's the thing, it's not house ruling. They flat out tell you the layouts are only recommendations and give you rules on how not to use them. But people get so fucking hung up on them. Everything I described is just playing the game RAW
>why does this have so many com- Oh
>>98911740>noo not that kind of diversity!
>>98911740What did bro mean by it thoughbeit?
>>98911350>1. What's the musical theme and/or music you like that fits the tone of /yourdudes/?How many Guard armies have Klendathu Drop as their theme song?https://youtu.be/CIGHCoVzqtk?si=vZRQKyOzDeZX75tX
>>98911736GW is suppose to be the baseline, the impartial official. Players officiating for themselves leads to the memes of Tau players who set up the board with an empty middle of the table.
>>98911366Dude, use shots from Headshot. Holy fuck those pole dancing scenes.
Will Lion force the Blood Ravens to return everything they stole?
>>98911350this guy, the Noise marine, a tyranid warrior on drums and a couple other musical models for a band.
>remember liking the FW contemptor dreads>now they kinda spark nothingsaturnines can look kinda nice i guess but unless converted into a defiler they're kinda just an expensive paperweights
>>98911448here's some Nid friendly musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2QgMBcaA60
>>98911753Prefer some Jerry Goldsmith for my boyshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ST8zZjuJjY
>>98911770Mordian Iron Guard theme right hereI'm partial tohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz1OfN2-Z1Uand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXw_GjEWFi8
>>98911765The FW contemptor dreads were full bodies, not just a torso and head like now.
So I'm trying Duncans tri painting style and wanted some feedback on my WIPI used a darker shade on the shadows but I can't tell if I need more of less shading on the skin.
>>98911604>no Solar Auxilliafuck that
>>98911740>paint them in a human skin tone>wash them in a dark color>everyone now is part of the 13%
>>98911783Is there an easy conversion to put a big helmet on one of these so it doesn't look so dumb?
>>98911757so you have the meme of that? and the opposite version with the guardsman being "we need more terrain"?
>>98911757the issue is that people now just do EVERYTHING GW says, no free thought allowedas anon pointed out, the terrain layouts are a suggestion, yet people act like it's word of god and MUST follow it to the letter
remember when they changed the rules so instead of feel no pain there were 100 rules that all did the same thing but had different names, and then called it simplification? why hasn't whoever did that been shot?
>>98911813I hate it, I feel like a tons of armies have the same rules now just under a different name now, especially space marines. Space marines always feel like "Oh actually I have the same rule than your army, maybe restricted to some units, except I also have ten different rules that are absolutely busted as well"
>>98911787Hard to tell with the lighting in the photo but I think the shading/highlights look distinct enough on the right arm so if its like that over the whole thing it will look good. How's it look from table height?
Morning everyone, let’s have a productive and event filled Monday.
>>98911813I am absolutely certain that 4th ed had less pages of rules compared to 11thI haven't actually compared the rulebooks, but I am confident in my assumption11th is a bloated, microtransaction filled shitfest that prides itself on "its simple" because the core rules are, but everything surrounding it isnt
>>98911839It's overcomplicated. I get that they added rules to make weapons and profiles less swingy and shit, like sustained hits, etc, but things like invulnerables being on full units instead of being restricted to some characters is jarring and fucking annoying
>>98911839>Be 4th edition>Have cityfight ruless>Have VDR rules>Have the ten different army types in White Dwarf>Nine different versions of the same rule, some dating back to early 3rd edition(past edition 3.5)You weren't there.
>>9891183970 ish pages, about half of the pages is art. The other 60 are missions, scenarios and campaign rules
>>98911856for 11th or 4th?
>some of my models don't have rules anymore, not even legends>some of the models i wanted to get arn't produced anymoreit's like these bastards at GW don't like selling plasticit's like these bastards at GW want me to commit into making my homebrew minimalist rules based on 4th ed with semi generic profiles to accommodate every model ever made
>>989118664th. That is including the specail rules, weapons, unit type, phases, etc.130 pages, half of it is random fluff and art, while 60 are just missions. The rest of the 130 pages of the rulebook is lore and hobby sections like how to make a bunker or how to kitbash
>>98911837yeah I need to learn how to take photos on minisI didn't get a response on time so I just went over all the skin with nuln oil.I don't want to rely on washes and learn how to do shades though
>>98911803There are 3rd party upgrades. Picrel is based on the old FW UM mk4 castraferrum.There are still rumors of a venerable dread remake, so that could also be it, have to wait and see.
>>98911874i fucking miss vehicles profilesthis brought granularity and balance to vehicles
>>98911839It sure feels like it at this point. I liked the idea of it at first with more granular wounds and the way they're doing teams/operatives but now I'm not a fan; it doesn't help that the whole game just died without even getting off the ground at my LGS. It especially stings because there's a lot of stuff that lends itself to narrative/campaign style play but there's just a big narrative/campaign shaped hole in the rules.
>>98911867>minimalist 4th edDon't make 5th 2.0 plz.Also fairly sure 4th had unit creation tables, wouldn't be hard to port units anyway.
>>989118905th rules on 4th codices felt pretty alright until the newer codices started coming out.
>>98911878Do another one but don't do the wash and side by side them.
>>98911890and i forgot to mention, i would use d12 because it fix most issues the game had back then
>>98911736NTA I rarely see anyone comment on the terrain setup of their game when they're talking about it but this would imply to me most people are using the default because if random placement or player chosen terrain features there would be way more complaining about the other guy "cheating" by whatever they placed. That being said, might be the people placing terrain in a more casual and agreeable manner aren't inclined to complain about it much at all, but it does seem to lack commentary at all.
>>98911874and for 11th? the full rules not the smaller, simplified pdf thats free that misses out half the shit
>>98911906The people I play with are a bit of tryharders who complain when dies or things don't go their ways, so I have a hard time convincing them of taking things lightly and just setting terrain like we want. I don't understand this mindset, especially when the game is a mess to begin with. I mean I complain too during games but more about complicated rules, or the fact that there are a lot of counters to core rules now imo, which make it hard to strategize and think ahead.I'm a casual player and started in 9th though so I don't have much hindsight.
While I know technically Crucible rules are compatible with 11th, I think character creation should be a thing in every codex.
>>98911812THIS. As an old time player, I'm HORRIFIED by the mindset of the newbies to the hobby. Ive seen people ask if it was ok to PAINTtheir marines a different color that's not like the box. Much less convert them by swapping arms/giving them different weapons from a different box.
>>98911818>>98911813They should go back to Universal Rules instead of having different names for Sticky Objectives, Armor of Contempt, etc.
>>98911813I really miss the old "Return to Shadows" stratagem of GSC, where you removed a unit after it got shot at back at reserves. Now it's a generic return to reserves at the end of the fight phase like everyone else's.
>>98911628I use a random pile that I've assembled over years of different starter sets for games. 12mm are best because trying to roll 30+ 16mm at the same time needs a very big tray. Nothing wrong with spending money on some nice looking ones if you really want to, but the price some of these sets go for are insane.
>>98911943For the colors it's crazy, but for the loadout, as a new player you can be overwhelmed by the options and afraid of messing it up, and not have the playables weapons you should have.Of course it's meaningless but still
>>98911628I use chessex dice
>>98911943remember how in the last stream someone unironically asked them if thry could use fantasy models in AoS for model varietyevery time I bring this up people run defense like "but they're asking about muh tournaments!" even though the TOs clearly do that already
>>98911952it's not that complicated.When I started, Tactical Squad Boxes came with a Missile Launcher and a Flamer, period. You wanted a Lascannon, you bought a Devastator Box and used that. Plasma? Either buy yhe metal Plasma Gun marine or grab a plasma gun somewhere else.
>>98911952>but for the loadout, as a new player you can be overwhelmed by the options and afraid of messing it upi remember in 4th gen being able to put almost anything on a marine squad sarge and making custom ones, shit was cash
>>98911904Elaboratet. working on my own tabletop rules and keeping D6
>>98911962Those people's heads would explode if they saw my "Astra Militarum" army composed of models from Cities of Sigmar, Grand Cathay, Ogor Mawtribes, Solar Auxillia, and Necromunda.
>>98911978that's just your average 30k militia army
>>98911952>you can be overwhelmed by the options and afraid of messing it upIt's a pretty valid concern with the fact that wargear is free to take in 90% of cases, and magnetizing is a pretty big ask for new players. There's no reason to never not run a havoc ML on your rhino, sure, but what about a soulreaper vs a heavy flamer on a rubric? Because both options are 0 points you want to make the most of the unit (and it's soulreaper by a long shot, the heavy warpflamer is total ass)
>>98911978>Astra MilitarumIt's the guard, son
>>98911976well it all boil down to granularity and the limits the lack of it can bring, especially with diverse unitsit was less of an issue in 3rd ed because a lot of unit were very similar rule wise between armies, but with 4th gen it got more variety, new shit with tau and so on, and the lack of granularity make these differences difficult to express and balance, you can do one but not the other
I like having different miniatures from different eras in my army. Can't imagine buying the exact same boxes five times over to make the current meta netlist and not hating myself.
>>98911920Not the anon that said 11th had more rules. But I honestly have no idea.I was considering FAQ and Erratas into the page count of 4th though.
>>98911993so many units that don't have rules anymore in a single pic>white dwarf easy cactussovl tho
>>98911985Back in the day, you had a marine with a plasmagun and you had another marine with a meltagun. You used the guy you needed in your Tac squad, and the other guy stayed home. Not complicated.
>>98911993>the foam spiky ballsfor some reason these always remind me of that caltrop ball manny made in diary of a wimpy kid kek
>>98911923Casual player from 2nd-4th, looked back in around 8th and have been chuckling in bewilderment ever since. Its a different enough game at this point I know I wouldn't enjoy it but its interesting to see the differences.
>>98911884My only big issue with vehicles during 3rd/7th was it never felt right.Either they are way too tanky or too easy to prevent them from doing anything.Like everyone had to use a version of extra armor and/or machine spirit to even function due to how generous the shaken and stunned results where.
>orks codex releases>if this is your warlord get 1 extra cp>SM codex releases>if this is your warlord get 1 extra cp>custodes codez releases>if this is your warlord get 1 extra cpjust fucking push out the warlord benefit for every army already you jews
>>98912019>My only big issue with vehicles during 3rd/7th was it never felt right.>Either they are way too tanky or too easy to prevent them from doing anythingfor me the 4th gen vehicle tables worked greatwhen they removed table tanks and vehicles in general became garbage because they couldn't tank anyhting
So they renamed the assault cannon to "heavy onslaught gatling cannon" for primaris, and then have a regular "onslaught gatling cannon" that iirc is the storm bolter equivalent for the redemptor.You think they'll ever do a primaris squad that's all of those, kinda like a rotor cannon squad for heresy?
>>989119933 generations of Gaunts right here. Although i use the plastic 2E ones as Neurogants because they're so small.
>>98911923Since I play once a blue moon, I recall that during 9th I had to bring a flow chart and other gaming aids for my GSC, just to remember all the random shit my units could do.Meanwhile my 3rd GSC the newrecruit printed list is enough to remember all the things they can do.Worst thing was the minor powers that a Magus could use.
>>98912029exactly mate, love it
>>98912024all with different names btw>da boss>transhuman strategist>aquila commander
>>98912025Newer version are worst than the old tables, but like I said they always felt off.My AV9 trucks in GSC tanked way more damage than one would expect vs my Leman Russ with AV14. Mostly a result of the random result tables than an issue with glancing or penning. That was the part that always feels wrong.
>>98911628these ones
>>98912036It drags the game to a chore. I know my unit profiles quite well now but there is so much random shit going on with the weapons I always have to check what they do
>>98912040holy crap all metal attack bike
Noob here. Can jump packs be magnetized, as to swap them out for regular power armour backpacks?What is the feasible limit for magnetization??
>>98912048The weapons drive me insane. >guys have a laserback then everyone's laser was the same, but now? even within the same army similar weapons have slightly different profiles. D3 shots/damage are extremely annoying
>>98912024new codex privilegeYou aren't a poorfag and also not unlucky right?
>>98911992Fair, I keep with the D6 for convenience (most people have D6s at home, even if they're not tabletop players) and I rather try to work with the limitation of the D6.One of the OG wargames from which most descend from worked with coin flips when units met. I prefer to have granularity in unit and wargear options, while keeping game results (dice rolls) about luck/randomness, rather than simulation/granular.But I'll have to see if it works out in the end.
>>98912024I hate stratagems. Fuck this magic the gathering yugiho bullshit. Either it's part of your army list (off table artillery for instance) or part of the scenario (booby trapped area). I don't want to manage fucking mana, this is a wargame, not Yugi vs kaiba pulling shit out their asses for convenience.
>>98912059Yesterday my friend hit me with a D6+6 attacks WITH blast 2, meaning he got a whooping 10 guaranted attacks on my 12 man squad, without even throwing the dice. I mean just give 10 or 12 attacks flat to the profile in that case, don't waste my fucking time
>>98911593I could have sworn sanguard had full on wings
>>98912058powerpacks and jumppacks on intercessors don't use the same plugs, but you could just shave them off and magnetize them, it might be a tad tedious but entirely feasable
>>98912077they did
>>98911628A ton of old chessex dice but I do also have fancier ones that I'd like tou se.
>>98912043maybe local damages and weapons destruction could be trimmed off for streamliningbut for me the basic table is necessary to prevent vehicles from being one big bag of useless points that can go down in a single turnbut on the other hand the possibility to reduce the danger of an unit you can't take down easily is a good tradeoff gameplay wise
>>98912080I member when kits had a fuckton of actual options AND a lot of leftover bits to disperse among other models for fun kitbashes.Curse of endless tilt shields upon thy.
>>98912075Removing templates kind of fucked up blast weapons.The small one for example only got the massive meme up 5 auto hits if you had an entire squad bunch up inside cover or a chokepoint. Every other time you just got a 1-2 hits plus maybe 2 or 3 partials and that happen because you are in the open preparing to get blasted.
>>98912062>keep with the D6 for convenience (most people have D6s at home, even if they're not tabletop players) and I rather try to work with the limitation of the D6.fair, but while i agree with the idea for some dnd or similar that don't need much more gear, when you get bunch of plastic and tools to assemble and paint you're already invested enough to have dedicated dice
>>98912095Most of the time when I play 4th I do not aim to destroy a vehicle. As long as it can't shoot it is good enough.You could achieve that with most of the result. Like immobilize sure it can still shoot, but it can no longer aim so it was almost the same.
>>98912072I'd take stratagems over every unit having a special power.
>>98912099>GW removes blast templates, gives blast a generic +x attacks per 5 models in target units>wrist-mounted flamers get blast 2>artillery that can detonate an apartment building with a single barrage only gets blast 1I'd be more forgiving of blast if it were applied consistently and in a way that made sense. As it stands it's just a way to make flamers stupidly good into horde infantry to the point of those hordes not being worth bringing at all.
>>98912096I've got loads of templars bits left over from their kits. Modern Space Marine sprues don't lack of extra greebles.
>>98912116I'm torn on this. On one hand it's cool to have some special rules for units so they do "something more", on the other hand it quickly and often devolves into annoying bullshit like rerolls.Maybe some units could have some rules like sticky or extra action, which would make sense as there are many objectives which rely on this, but yeah
>>98911350why am i so fucking shit at this gayme?
>>98912080The fuck those look way better than the modern(?) ones
>>98912117During cityfight small blast was D3 and Ordnance D6 and you could only hit as much models the target had. So if you only had 2 models left and rolled a 6, you could only hit 2.Flamers had D6 an 8" range, but you could only see up 6" when shooting into a building. Multi flamer units had to allocate any extra hit to the first visible model then the next guy and so on.
>>98912116>>98912072>>98912126I'd like stratagems and special abilities if/when they let units do something different, like reposition, fight back, etc.Starts that merely go "do more DPS" are LAME. This is a game of chance. To hell with your mathematical optimization.
>>98912103Sure, but since I'm aiming at rules and not models, I'd rather not introduce D12s on top of the rest. Plus it's easier for people to try it out, they don't have to get D12s to try it, everything is in the rule book.But what's important is making rules that fit what you want, if D12 is vital, who cares about D6, so godspeed.>>98912116I'll take neither. Why would anything other than characters/specialists have special ability?>>98912122>Crusader squad kit>Extra bits kit>Vehicle kit>not counting forgeworldMiddlehammer was the golden age of marine kits.
>>98912155Yeah that could be nice. My DA friend can just advance and charge or retreat and charge all the time and it breaks the movement phase completely but if everybody could do it in some capacity it would be less busted
>>98912126Some units should have special rules, sure, the problem comes from everything needing to have one so you get random magic powers like sticky objectives or return to reserves with no explanation of how the unit is doing that when others can't (like last edition marine scouts could leave the battlefield and teleport around, but jump pack units couldn't?). Special equipment is cool, incursors carry a big mine with them. There's a model there on the tabletop, both players can see it and know it's going to do an explosive thing. How do intercessors action while engaged? I dunno, they just needed something to fill the quota.
>>98912099>>98912117to be fair, Blast+Scatter dice is NOT a good thing if you're playing competitively
>>98912165Competitive gaming is a fucking bane
>>98912161Running really fucked up the game.When it was just the guys in the Fast Attack slot it was choice during the army construction, but when every single unit has it. Running messes with everything. Position matter less when everyone has 6"+D6" movement with no real penalty.No not shooting is not a penalty, since you could not run and left the unit out of position it would not be shooting regardless.
>>98911813We still have that problem today with like 50 different versions of Objective Secured. It really should have just been made a core rule.
>>98912151All of that makes far more sense than "add x dice to your total attacks"Having more hits than models in the target is kind of a bandaid on top of saves and invuln saves as-is, so to do something about it to go more in-line with the old system you'd have to entirely rework the save system, which I would also quite enjoy because I'm fucking sick of units shrugging off an attack because "lol coinflip invuln">>98912165>playing competitivelyYea, the goal is to get rid of compfaggotry and prioritize *having fun*
>>98912096>>98912122>>98912156dude. Plastic Tempestus Scions kit made five guys. It had TWENTY TWO++ heads. I fucking love GW design philosophy circa 2008-2017.
>>98912165>my sport car is not good at moving heavy cargoWargames should not be in the tournament mentality. Is not you can't have events with them, but there a better things for it. Like for example and RTS. Way better suited for a highly competitive and with needs of balance. A sport car can move stuff, but there are better tools for it, like you know a truck.
>>98912173To be fair a lot of new kits have a fuckton of heads. But that's often the only meaningful bit of variety, and the heads can be very bland and/or lame.I'm still assfucked that the new intercessor kit didn't have swappable chest pieces and that the variety is still worse than the old 2014 tactical kit. Come the fuck on.
>>98912168wasnt 2E move x and do stuff or run 2x and no shoot/charge?3E i remember only Eldar had Fleet of Foot
>>98911839the 11th ed rule book is probably shorter. Only because half the rules for the game aren't in the rulebook, they're in the app.
>>98912165>playing>competitivePick one. Either the game is winning, or the game is the game.
>>98912077>>98912080The wings were removed because GW reasoned having custodian venatarii with wings and gold-painted sanguards with with wings would be confusing.
>Blade Champion (Edge of the Blade)>Sentinel Guard (Vexilla)>Telemon Heavy Dreadnought (2x Fist, Augury Uplink)>SoB (Power Weapon, Inferno Pistol, Multi-Melta, Meltagun, Simulacrum)>Immolator (Flamers)>Ministorum Priest>995 ptsStill playing around with squeezing a 2+/4++/5+++ Telemon into 1k points. SoB allies bring 2 combat squads, a transport, and a bunch of Melta which seems like a good complement to Custodes. What do we think?
>>98912182At the very least, they had a TON of guns. That kit has like, more than 5 Hellgun variants, but also had like, 1 of each plasma, melta, grenade, volley, and multiple CCWs for the sergeant. They should have just updated the kit into a 10 man kit and made it a dual(triple) kit w the Aquilons having special drop backpacks (command squad).
>>989121842nd if recall correctly a marine had movement 4" and could at best move 8" Fast shit as genestealers had Movement 6"During 3rd/4th Fast units had jump packs, bikes, transports or a fleet of foot that didn't allow shooting unless they had assault weapons.So yes older edition did have running, but it was also slower and the board where bigger. Meanwhile 3rd onward everyone was moving at genestealer speed and then they decided that being fast as fuck was not enough and added running too
>>98912198Are there Stormcast Prosecutor conversions?
>>98912202>dual/triple kitsDo these still exist? Is GW still making them?I think the only middle hammer dark angel kit I don't have was the glorious deathwing termi triple kit. Such a shame what they did to it. Fucking disgraceful.
>>98912207yes
>>98912211They exist either as legacy 40k/AoS kits, or in Horus Heresy I think. Modern 40k they seem to be disappearing as things get updated. BUT the Biovore/Pyrovore box is still a thing. Oh, and Norn Assimilator/other norn.
>>98912224if they kill russes and chimeras I'm done with this semen slurping game.
>>98912198>I know these models have had wings since 5e but our new toys have wings and we don't want the paypigs to get confusedTo be a blood angels fan is to suffer
>>98911382Congrats on the army of Fallen.
>>98912246>the world you grew up in no longer exists
>>98912198I think that is cope and the real reason is some monkey brain designer said, 'hey these are primaris sanguard and primaris sanguards should have those faggy lame little fins on their packs like the other primaris jump troops and that means no wings'.
>>98912224I guess we can count those nid kits, although they seem more like options than actual dual kits. It's just that instead of 1 profile with multiple options, GW is separating options into profiles, so they can sell the boxes with as slim as possible.>>98912246I will never stop saying that the rogal dorn is just the 40k leman russ now. Worse kit, bigger model.
>>98911382Cat is like>dumb bitchKWAB
>>98912161Can't everyone reposition though? Is that not a core react- uh, stratagem here?
>>98912163>return to reserves with no explanation of how the unit is doing that when others can'tYou were given the explanation for how terminators get picked up by a dedicated Thunderhawk. You just don't like said explanation.
>>98912260Except literally all the other 'primaris sized' stuff released over the last 3 years has trended towards mixing up armour marks or reducing the obvious primaris bits, like the angry face helmets and back banners on the new intercessors or the space wolf models or the black templar ancient or the new legion of the damned.It's only blood angels who got utterly shafted in this way and is almost certainly because GW decided having two units of gold angels would be confusing.
>>98912304So why can't any unit be picked up by the thunderhawk? Is the pilot an elitist? It's a dumb magic power for units that can actually teleport.
Why does Guilliman deprive his most needy sons of resources?
Blood Toof Red 4 is the first Tone Pro I’ve bought that genuinely just sucks. It has a strange consistency and coverage that no other of the Tone Pro paints I’ve bought have.
Has anyone here had success with wiping off all the chapter iconography and wolf bits from grey hunters and blood claws?
>>98912317successors exist to refill the ranks of the ultras when most of them get killed every few years. the relationship doesn't work in the other direction.
>>98912041This is kino thou
>>98912329Why would you want to do that?
>>98912311Nah, I think >>98912260 is on the right track. The other factions clearly had enthusiasts driving the facelift, giving them personal character and specific aesthetics. BA haven’t had anyone in their corner for a while, so they got a lazy design that copy-pasted baseline primaris jump pack models as much as possible to spend the least amount of effort on them. Would explain why Death Company don’t even have models anymore.
>>98912353Because I want mixed-mark assault intercessors for my chapter, obviously.
>>98911350Kill team game at warhammer world today, was surprisingly busy!
>>98912317spears are a dumb weapean and no other marine uses them
>>98912375Forced perspective diorama with some LIgma scale minis in the background standing while their commander holds a speech and in the foreground an Ork sniper is taking aim with a big sniper rifle (with a targeting squig). For extra funny, put a few holes and dead marines around the commander, and a pile shells next to the Ork sniper.
This thread fucking sucks lately lol
>>98912448>lately
>>98912451Well you got me there, it's sucked for a long while now.
while we're at it what happened to the rogue janny we used to have here? the one that would delete on topic stuff as offtopic
>>98912448>>98912459>>98912466
>>98912313>Is the pilot an elitist?Literally yes - terminator armour is worth so much wars have been waged for parts of incomplete suits, allegedly.Though it's unashamedly a way to make people buy more Termies. I heard some guy won a local competition using a list with 33 Termies, and such a list was worth like $1500 usd or something idk.In 30k any unit can be extracted by a flying transport if you have one, no biggie. I wish Termies teleported in that game...
>>98912500Nobody knows. When 4chan shut down a few months back, some of the mods never returned, and that was that. /tg/ itself is fairly unmoderated, iirc moot himself never cared much for the board so it never got attention.
Can’t wait to head down to the LGS later and pick up some fresh pots, nothing makes me happier than scanning through that rainbow paint selection.
Would anyone here happen to have a Gravis marine body and a MK3 helmet so I can see what they look like combined? I wanna mix the beefy marks
>>98912545You would like to see it ? Well too bad it's mine
>>98912545It's not hard to type words into Google and get most of what you need, but here comes the choo-choo train.
>>98912559Have you ever stopped to think why people make posts on here to ask questions and such instead of just going straight through Google or whatever?
Fuck your trendy Cyberpunk bullshit that you fake retards hyperfixate on just to hyperfixate on the next trend. Give me Kiss X Sis season 2.
>>98912565Nta, I know it's because Google sucks now. I search for stuff that I know exists and it simply doesn't appear
POST wips lads. Doesn't matter how far along it is. Picrel is mine
>>98912565I don't care what retards think.
>>98912556I hate orange but Kang Tao somehow makes it work>>98912559Thanks anon, those proportions look good>>98912565Probably because when I did google it before coming here it did not give me the facebook post that image came from, hence me coming here to ask if anyone had it on hand. It's almost like this is a place where people come to talk about the hobby
>>98912582It's also because people want to talk here and get responses from their fellow posters.
>>98911628>what kind of dices do you guys use?A lot of white with black pip chessex dice. I think I saved the containers they come in to use as miniature display "boxes." I have a lot of white with black dot dice because I play guard and I expect to lose some dice. Also people will generally use fancy dice so I'm fine with that as it will be easy to identify mine versus the other player's fancy dice he likes to use.
>>98911611>It's everything people accuse primaris of beingNot even a little bit.
>>98912329Why not make use of the teeth stuff for a cool tribal chapter? Pic unrelated since it's the armageddon intercessor used here
>>98912587I dont own models. I just jerk off to femboy porn and watch Warhammer lore vids on youtube
>>98912515>I wish Termies teleported in that game...Depends on the faction, but you already knew that. Bigger issue is how 3.0 completely fucked over deepstriking as a mechanic.
>>98911366rat is awful, and the only good member of promise is kronii, and it shows because my tax dolars went to kronii not to rat
>>98911573BA is the most overrated faction.
For the love of God, enough with the British accents. The only other accent I've heard in recent 40k is just the Space Wolves with that Scandinavian accent. Was looking at Dawn of War and forgot Alexander had no accent and fit 40k really well.
>>98912612But not Ultramarines for being the mascots of 40k? Are you retarded?
>>98912618It’s a British franchise, you retard.
Are Imperial Guard a horde army? If so, why? Eldar have the same amount of HP yet hit extremely hard though.
>>98912629Because infantry units are quite cheap and numerous, but you can play it full armour
>>98912629i dunno ask /y/
why do so few 40kg posters ha e models? are these threads Flooded with secondaries?
>>98912618I remember awhile ago I was listening to an audiobook and a catachan started talking and he sounded like a limey and I was like, yeah naw I'm done. No Thanks.
>>98912629>Are Imperial Guard a horde army?Infantry horde? NoTank horde? Yes>>98912642Many of us have models, some simply don't want to be easily identifiable to one of the resident schizos/shittersI'm painting a Russ Commander right now
>>98912257are those 80+ year old Stuarts being used by freaking Paraguay?
>>98912618>no accentyou might be the dumbest gorilla in the thread and that's counting the samefagging schizo
>>98912642just cause they don’t reply to “post models/wip” everytime doesn’t mean they don’t have models. you’ll see when collageanon posts there’ll be plenty of model posts in the last month.
>>98912642You don't know what anyone here owns, stupid fuck. No, a post saying something you don't like does NOT mean they don't own models.
>>98912652alright, I get it, but why do you have to be so mean about it :(
>>98912642I don’t feel like learning how to paint. I just like gooning and watching W40k lore vids
new mini todayhavnt make any new muhreen in awhile since defiler took so many days
>>98912284Thinking about it that way, the most dual/triple/multiple kit is either the Leman Russ or the Baneblade.One box: LR Battle, Demolisher, Executioner, Exterminator, Eradicator, Punisher, Vanquisher, Commander. I think the Baneblade builds more. Shame they rolled the Devil Dog and the Banewolf into a single Hellhound Profile. I dream of a Chimera/Salamander kit.
CSM are the only based space marine. Loyalist marines are lame and gay.
>>98912670built for big hive scum cock
>>98912573Trvth NvkeNow back to >>>/a/ where you belong
>>98912587Working on my Hellblasters then a Knight
>>98912673t. hive gangnigger
>>98912676>hellblasters
>>98912515to be fair, 33 termies is three HH Tartaros boxes and change, you just have to know how to convert/kitbash for the weapons
>>98912690Wait, HH Tartaros boxes are cheaper than regular 40k indomitus? Those have 10 Termies too right?
>>98912648Till like 2014. The Brazilian Stuart with 90mm gun is funnier though
>>98912666The Baneblade builds 8 different models, the Russ builds 7 different models with 8 different datasheets (Commander shares a model with whatever main gun it has).I don't think the Salamander is ever coming back I'm afraid, the Hippogriff ate its lunch.What I want is either alt weapon options for the Basilisk or a reintroduction of the Medusa and Griffin.
>>98912676its funny how you’d likely have them done if you didn’t spend hours arguing about how “/yourdudes/“ lore is cool, and valid (why would a bunch of stealth marines take glowing plasma weapons and tanks to a stealth mission again? and why were they frequently sent to the outer reaches of fenris to the point they’re able to form bonds with the frost claws who should be formidable enough to take care of their own issues or at least have the space wolves themselves help?) but now its day 2 and collageanon is likely searching through the archives already to assemble the collage. you’re running out of time :)
>>98912622smurfs get their fair share of hatered, furfags too. but i haven't seen a single person that ever talks about them being shit, while they have the same amount of plot armor as smurfs
>>98912675Kiss X Sis is Warhammer Chad kino
>>98912670i don't like the skin texture he does. it always looks so dirty and grimy
>>98912700Yeah I'm digging through the archive right now. Expect the collage later today.
>>98912678its the trvke doe
>>98912670
>>98912736he has a tiny highborn penis
>>98912700I’m sure that makes you giddy as a school girl
Any real ass niggas here?
The blood angels box really is the same price a the other christmas sets lmao
>>98911604>CSM AngleMk6 box:>2 10 man legionaries without upgrade sprue>(Can build as a 10man + 2 havoc squads if you pick up a heavy weapons kit)> 2 5 man warp talon squads> Predator> Rhino> Brute? (Or use leg. rules)>Chaos LordMk3 box:>2 10 man legionaries without upgrade sprue>(Can build as a 10man + 2 havoc squads if you pick up a heavy weapons kit)>Land Raider>Chosen>1 Terminator squad You'd get one leftover terminator and I'm not sure what you'd run the breachers as aside from more legionaries.
>>98912778no, i'm white european therefore not
>>98912224Forgefiend/Hellbrute?
>>98912786You a fake ass nigga
>>98912769It does, it really does. I like you, mutant.
>>98912224bullshit. custodes dread is still dual build box
>>98912799The nomodels anons are talking out their asses again, just ignore them.
fuck dat nigga alpharius. most useless ass nigga in the heresy
>>98912779The BA box costs $265On their own, its components cost $303 at GW pricessans the Chaplain, it's $262, so you're literally just getting the Chaplain (who isn't wysiwyg game-legal in its as-intended configuration due to being a firstborn model) for free.>>98912784I'm heavily considering that Mk6 box to build into CSM for a raiders list, it's very good for what I have in mindI would still have to find 2 land raiders and a few more vehicles though, good thing HH vehicles are cheaper than 40k ones
i hate all these fake ass niggas. hella fake ass niggas out there. just like the traitor primarchs in the heresy
what else do i need for my custodes army?Imperium - Adeptus Custodes - Grav-Assault Force, Lions of the Emperor, Might of the MoritoiTake and HoldTrajann Valoris (265pts): WarlordBlade Champion (175pts)Blade Champion (175pts)Blade Champion (195pts)Shield-Captain (205pts): Paragon Blade & Praesidium ShieldShield-Captain (225pts): Paragon Blade & Praesidium Shield3x Custodian Guard Sodality (240pts)3x Custodian Guard Sodality (240pts)3x Custodian Guard Sodality (240pts)3x Custodian Guard Sodality (270pts)3x Sentinel Guard Sodality (240pts)3x Sentinel Guard Sodality (240pts)3x Sentinel Guard Sodality (240pts)3x Sentinel Guard Sodality (270pts)Anathema Psykana Rhino (70pts)3x Allarus Custodians (270pts)3x Allarus Custodians (270pts)3x Allarus Custodians (300pts)3x Aquilon Terminators with Solarite Power Gauntlets (285pts)3x Aquilon Terminators with Solarite Power Gauntlets (285pts)3x Aquilon Terminators with Solarite Power Talons (275pts)3x Aquilon Terminators with Solarite Power Talons (275pts)3x Custodian Wardens (295pts)3x Custodian Wardens (325pts)3x Custodian Wardens (325pts)3x Custodian Wardens (325pts)3x Custodian Wardens (325pts)5x Prosecutor Squad (50pts)9x Witchseeker Squad (100pts)2x Gyrfalcon Jetbike Sodality (260pts)2x Gyrfalcon Jetbike Sodality (280pts)2x Gyrfalcon Jetbike Sodality (280pts)2x Gyrfalcon Jetbike Sodality (280pts)3x Vertus Praetors (330pts)3x Vertus Praetors (350pts)Caladius Annihilator Grav-tank (250pts)Contemptor-Achillus Dreadnought (230pts)Coronus Grav-carrier (225pts)Pallas Grav-attack (135pts)Pallas Grav-attack (135pts)Telemon Heavy Dreadnought (280pts)Telemon Heavy Dreadnought (310pts)Martial Ka'tah Reference (0pts)
>>98912827seems like you have enough bruh, maybe its time to look at another army
>>98912827i would say constantin valdor but hes a fake ass nigga. bitch flaked out of nowhere
>>98912833i think about getting second caladius, contemptor and a box of allarus terminators.
>>98912827>what else do i need20 feet or so of rope should fix your issue
>>98912855i can shoot a 20 feet ropes, does that count?
>>98912855nah. dat nigga needs sum bitches. i heard custodes players get no bitches
>>98912858I don't know if your cordage is going to be strong enough to hold up your own weight for long enough, I'm afraid
>>98912827You have more than enough anon, about the only thing I can think of is the jump pack Custodians with lances
i hate dat bitch ass nigga lorgar. he ruined everything
fuck it seems i didn't include them in the listnow here's the full list of everything i ownImperium - Adeptus Custodes - Grav-Assault Force, Lions of the Emperor, Might of the MoritoiTake and HoldTrajann Valoris (265pts): WarlordBlade Champion (175pts)Blade Champion (175pts)Blade Champion (195pts)Shield-Captain (205pts): Paragon Blade & Praesidium ShieldShield-Captain (225pts): Paragon Blade & Praesidium Shield3x Custodian Guard Sodality (240pts)3x Custodian Guard Sodality (240pts)3x Custodian Guard Sodality (240pts)3x Custodian Guard Sodality (270pts)3x Sentinel Guard Sodality (240pts)3x Sentinel Guard Sodality (240pts)3x Sentinel Guard Sodality (240pts)3x Sentinel Guard Sodality (270pts)Anathema Psykana Rhino (70pts)3x Allarus Custodians (270pts)3x Allarus Custodians (270pts)3x Allarus Custodians (300pts)3x Aquilon Terminators with Solarite Power Gauntlets (285pts)3x Aquilon Terminators with Solarite Power Gauntlets (285pts)3x Aquilon Terminators with Solarite Power Talons (275pts)3x Aquilon Terminators with Solarite Power Talons (275pts)3x Custodian Wardens (295pts)3x Custodian Wardens (325pts)3x Custodian Wardens (325pts)3x Custodian Wardens (325pts)3x Custodian Wardens (325pts)5x Prosecutor Squad (50pts)3x Venatari with Kinetic Destroyers (255pts)3x Venatari with Kinetic Destroyers (255pts)3x Venatari with Verutum Lances (270pts)3x Venatari with Verutum Lances (270pts)9x Witchseeker Squad (100pts)2x Gyrfalcon Jetbike Sodality (260pts)2x Gyrfalcon Jetbike Sodality (280pts)2x Gyrfalcon Jetbike Sodality (280pts)2x Gyrfalcon Jetbike Sodality (280pts)3x Vertus Praetors (330pts)3x Vertus Praetors (350pts)Caladius Annihilator Grav-tank (250pts)Contemptor-Achillus Dreadnought (230pts)Coronus Grav-carrier (225pts)Pallas Grav-attack (135pts)Pallas Grav-attack (135pts)Telemon Heavy Dreadnought (280pts)Telemon Heavy Dreadnought (310pts)
>>98912895get sum bitches nigga.
I need to restock a lot of my generic paints (black, blue, red, white, grey, gold, etc). I was also planning to buy another set of vanguard vets and some more intercessors. I’d be stupid not to buy this, right? The downside is they’re push fit so I can’t customize, but that’s a deal.
>>98911523This. And it’s worse because you had the meta list skewing AND the upgrades from the crusade awards AND you could mix detachments. By the end of the crusade group I was in, no one wanted to play anymore due to the usual min-maxing and tourny play actually seemed more fair in comparison. Crusade only works among friends. You can’t even trust acquaintances at LGS who want to autistically run C’tan spam for a narrative game.
>>98912898i can't, i'm too autistic if it comes to women.
>>98912905bruh
>>98912902that's a lot of $ i used to buy my minis from a reseller in poland for 2/3 of the actual price
>>98912908i get tight throat and i feel on a verge of a heart attack. whenever i have to court a woman
>>98912648iirc them or chile were still using shermans into 2018>>98912697Do they sell a model kit of this? He cute and I need one
>>98912587starting to clean by showering with these bad boys. scrub scrub in little my little tub tub.
>>98912902This and some bikes and you a nice White Scars-ish ~1k army
>guardfags
>>98912915maybe you should try courting men
>>98912922no, because i am not a homosexual
Do the flesh tearers have sang-guards and sang-priests and the like? They are blood angels but they're never depicted engaging in the same fineries or being as ornate as most other ba chapters
>>98912618Everyone should have accents, but from different places.
>>98912922I wish to court the cute men on estrogen at my LGS.
>>98912917
>>98912902The vanguard vets are fairly customisable, only two have a shoulder pad moulded to the torso. The rest you can exchange arms and heads just as easily as the multipart kits. Hacking bits off pushfit models is fine as well, honestly. Speeders are okay. Intercessors are a waste of money. If you value the paints at rrp then you can do worse.
>>98912916Chile was using the Super Sherman M-60 (basically a Sherman M-50 with a 60mm gun) and AMX-30. They got replaced by the Leopards V1 during 1999.Argentina got scared and made their own bootleg M50.South American military is mostly bullshit, the only one that seems to have an actual functional military is Chile, everyone else is like Saudi Arabia/China/Russia, in paper it is great and some times you can even see it. But how much actually works or let alone has anyone capable of using is a mystery.Chile from time to time does operation outside its boarders so there is some practical experience outside of military parades.
>>98912940No. Everyone should sound British unless it doesn’t fit their aesthetic like the White Scars, Space Wolves, Catachans, etc.
>>98912811$255
>>98912952>South American military is mostly bullshitnah nigga. columbia is the only real ass vato there. they actually have combat experience because niggas over there do mercenary work. real ass nigga shit. u dont know shit u fake ass nigga
>>98912966Those 10 dollars don't change very muchHowever I did forget to include the BA upgrade sprue, so you get that and the Chaplain for freeThe BA Christmas box is in no way a good deal to anyone
>>98912967>they actually have combat experience because niggas over there do mercenary workNot what I said. Jeez there is a reason why SA is so backwards is due to responses like this one.Having some guys with combat experience doing mercenary work is not the same as deploying an army outside your borders.Its like BOPE, a lot of actual experience in combat, but I honestly doubt anyone would call them a powerful military power.
Why the fuck do terminators (and VanVets) even have an invl save at all? Like, the lore justification? Why the fuck is getting shot by a Giga cannon meant to kill titans a 50/50 save.
>>9891140411th core rules using only 10th codexes is unironically good for a casual game if a bit lacking but instead of expanding upon that GW threw a brick on the gas and rapidly codex crept everything and now we have a bloated abomination starting to resemble 9th again.
>>98912985Shield generator in the armour or iron halo. Van vets don't have one, just bladeguard.
>>98912985One of the reason is marine bitching.The change from 2nd to 3rd was too much for them. So they had to add the invulnerable save along with more bullshit.
>newrecruit ruined to avoid lawsuitshow long until we just drop this game altogether? the corporatists are ruining the game trying to force everyone into their non functional shovelware app subscriptions. legitimately shocking the community hasnt moved on to some alternative like OPR or something and just use warhammer for its models. most 40k players agree the 40k system hasnt even been good for several editions now. why do people keep using it? is it just battered wife syndrome?
>>98912991Orks book is bloated with every keyword thrown on weapon profiles. Shooting already nerfed.Marines are stripped back if anything. There's some bullshit combos but the core is just everyone defaulting to Gladius combat doctrines, nothing new.Custodes have like half the models on the board now, big power boost per model but it's not a strong book by comparison to the other two.
>>98912983>Having some guys with combat experience doing mercenary work is not the same as deploying an army outside your borders.nigga dat changes everything. everything starts with competent experienced small unit leadership that actually knows what they’re doing. not a bunch of retards doing gay ass drills outside their country who never seen a real combat deployment. BOPE is pretty much just a swat team, not even close to real grunts. using BOPE as a comparison is how I know ur a retarded ass nigga who’s never done actual military shit and u just a fake ass nigga who watches vids then thinks he knows shit. fuck outta my thread pussy
>>98913001buy a codex, brokie
>>98913005based /yourdudes/ maker.
>>98913001There is a reason why older editions are get more traction.Not because they are objectively better, but because the new one are so ass to play that reading poorly scanned pdf is an upgrade.
>>98912985>armor saves crept up to incentivize using high strength high AP weapons instead of spamming low AP low strength dice and hoping enough filter through the slot machine>GW then makes it easier to spam high-damage high AP weapons through units like Eradicators, Dominions and Fire Dragons>now units with good armor saves aren't tanky, so they need something to make them tanky>enter invuln saveThis then goes on to make the best way to counter units spamming low-strength low AP attacks to maximize chances at the slot machine. GW does not understand how mathematics or statistical probabilities work, so we will always be in this hole because GW never backs off from a problem they created, they instead fabricate a new problem to band-aid over the old problem and just compound onto itself.I pray the 4++ finally becomes the breaking point that gets some heads out of asses.
>>98913004Sure sure go a snort some cocaine now.
>>98913014>There is a reason why older editions are get more traction.Because the most vocal audience is 40 year old men pining for their childhoods.
>>98913006boot licked, a $5 games workshop voucher has been sent to your email. thankyou for your patronage
>>98913005"Knights Panther" feels stilted and weird coming out of the mouth."Knights Panthera" or "Panther Knights" both work better, for example. Consider playing around with the name more.Or if you want alliteration, Palatine PanthersPalatine has come to mean "palace guard" since Constantine.
>>98913005SEX Panthers
if i was in the heresy, i wouldve mollywhopped dat fake ass nigga horus. real ass nigga shit
>>98913017Psychic attacks should ignore invuln saves, but have low AP and not ignore normal saves. Close off the circle and make the meta fold back on itself.
>>98913038>>98913005anything panther sound kinda gay nglat least it's not cougar
>>98913052panthers are cool nigga. watchu got against panthers
black panthers
>>98913038>"Knights Panther" feels stilted and weird coming out of the mouth.Okay, you're right; I wasn't convinced about keeping the original name.
>>98913055well there's cooler cats out there
how do I stop salamander from killing my grots?
>>98913056they were sum real ass niggas. shame their leader got into drugs and fucked everything up. what a fake ass nigga
>>98913067throw more grots at him
>>98912993I don't recall ever there being a shield generator mentioned in anything recent I've read but that could just be an omission. I've always understood termie plate as just being very good armour. VV get the shield for the 5++ no? Anyways I just hate 4++ saves especially on something with a base 2+ already. Even 5++. Just give things like that a better save. 2+ 1++. Basically, 2+ AoC 1. 3Ap attacks save on a 4+. 2+ 3++ means 3AP attacks still save on a 2+. They want more granularity? There you go. The biggest baddest anti tank guns go to 5AP or more. Invulns should only exist on. A handful of data sheets, or should be conditional.> But muh elite SM infantry then gets bodied by cheap guard tanks and lascannonsGood. As it should.
>>98913056
>>98913051Grey Knights/TSons meta let's go
>>98913028I've seen people play them and I have models older than them.
>>98912648South Africa still has Centurion (entered service just before WW2 ended) in service as the Oliphant Mk.2.
>>98913017Was volume fire really a boogieman in the past or something? 0ap guns into a 2+ is still abysmal odds to get damage through.
>>98912957So everyone, yes.
>>98913001OPR is a meme that sucks ass. It commits the worse sin of all being extremely boring to play and the balancing isnt even good but now you have 0 flavor too and the no more bloat is basically a lie because they autistically make even regular unit stats special rules so reading a unit profile is still a vomit of random words instead of a number that says health or splitting melee and shooting accuracy you have special rules for these like tough 8 or bad shot.
>>98913066yeah lions and tigers are cool nigga but that dont make panthers any less cool. its like saying theres the m1911 and makarov but that dont make my glock less cool. kno wat im saying nigga?
>>98913005So Astral Claws? Knights Panther is cool af, fits great with SM chapters
>>98912916>Do they sell a model kit of this?There's a decent amount of sherman kits in 1:48 scale but I couldn't find anything past the firefly so the turret's all wrong.
Should it keep the black color, as in the lore?
>>98913075RT terminators had a minimum save of 6+ and could get a refractor field for a 5++ save. In HH Gorgon terminators (Indomitus variant) replace the normal shield generator with a conversion field. Cataphractii have extra shield generators.
>>98913115nigga why are they called white wolves yet you show me a whole ass black nigga str8 from atlanta
>>98913075crux terminatus I think it was called? either way terminator armor has an energy shield, most units with invulns lore wise either have insane speed or energy shields to explain their invulns like genestealers are supposedly just dodge bullets with their reflexes when using invuln saves
>>98913105eh, panther are on the lower part of the feline tierlist for mewhat do you think of lynx and cheetahs?
>>98913099It's not a bogeyman from old editions, it's statistical probability, aka "middle school algebra.">you roll 1 die that needs to be 4+ to do 6 damage>or you roll 40 dice that each need to be 6 to do 1 damage eachYou are more likely to get 6 6 dice out of 40 (~67% chance) than you are to get 1 die roll to be 4+ (50% chance)Both of these do the same damage, but one is more likely to happen.
>>98913099Nah it is mostly marine bitching. Playing back then and playing today I suppose that for some reason marine players where allergic to cover, transports and positioning. Expecting their 2+ and 3+ saves to carry them.Understandable because even T3 Sisters of battle where a bitch to remove if you did not have the correct weapons. Leave them in cover and they are even more of a bitch to remove.Remember that things that could ignore a Sv3+ where not common and you could only get them in spammable numbers with marines or vehicles of other factions At least during 3rd/4th
>>98913117Cool. I learned something. An invln of 6 is fine, 5 is bareable.
>>98913124>things that could ignore a Sv3+ where not commonAs long as you ignored all the Rending and AP2 weapons around.
>>98913122lynx and cheetahs are dope af. i havent seen a space marine chapter name with cheetah in it either
>>98913120I don't know! Ask GW.
literally nothing in the game should have better than a 6+ invuln save. Only a very few sheets should have an situational 5+. FNP is the balanced version of invuln. Prove me wrong (you can't)
>>98913115This looks like a lego castle faction and that's based
>>98913127What about 3++ storm shield terminators?
>>98913105>>98913122Guys, did you know that lions and tigers are panthers? "Panther" is a genus, not a species.
>>98913154Someone got fucked up by terminators
>>98913123Yeah, and that's fine. Why shouldn't volume fire be more constant by virtue of weight of dice? "The legionary who scoffs at the humble lasgun hasn't charged through open ground against a hundred of them" or something along those lines, the quote goes. 60 lasguns shots into a T6/2+ profile still does on average less than 1 damage. Against T5/3+ those same shots kill a Marine and wound another.
I miss 8th edition harlequins. Their rules don't seem remotely fun anymore. Meta gamers playing that one specific clown car masque ruined it.
>>98913154You'll take my army-wide 4+ invuln from my cold, dead mechadendrites
>>98913140The rending and AP2 spam came later. Weapons with AP3 or better where basically Plasma, Missile launcher, meltas and Laser cannon like.Beside melta weapons, usually you only found 1 of those per squad, maybe a plasma pistol if you had points left. The heavy weapons unless it was on a vehicle could be played around with positioning (marines are allergic to this) while the rest will be on bodies that your regular bolters are more than enough to deal with.On a side note the common AP2 plasma was mostly from other marines.Guard turn rather expensive to spam and hitting on 4+ was not exactly great.
>>98913164nigga the genus is actually called panthera. panthers are a whole different thing nigga
>>98913168Yes and no. I bodied a 10man termie brick with two of my own bricks of Tyranid warriors. It's very frustrating that high S, High Ap attacks from my big expensive monsters are reduced to 50/50 due to low volume, when really a termie getting shot by a rupture cannon should explode, shield generator or no.
>>98913171In older editions you did not really need special weapons to delete marines.The wall of lasgun was enough, T4 W1 after all so guard players had little reason for running anything else beside GL and ML in their basic squads if anything.
>>98913171>Why shouldn't volume fire be more constant by virtue of weight of dice?Do you want infernus marines to run the game for the rest of time?Do you think the gatling gun Leman Russ Punisher should be the best anti-tank vehicle?>60 lasguns shotsNow do it with 40 s7ap-1 flamer shots that also have blast 1 into any infantry targets. Those 40 are at base, so that's you shooting at a tank.10 Infernus marines can have what I've just described under Forgefather's Seekers via Vulkan He'Stan and an attached Ancient with Immolator. You're likely to do half of a Leman Russ' wounds in 1 burst from a unit of Infernus, who are nominally the "anti chaff infantry" unit.Volume of fire would be fine if it were a sliding scale, the problem is that there are a lot of dice spam weapons that fall firmly in the middle of the strength range and are therefore able to do everything at all times.
>>98913124so all of 40k's problems can be traced back to marinepigs complaining since 3rd that their dudes aren't invincible? say it ain't so.
>>98913206At least a lot of the issues regarding the game is that.I mean Marines used to be T3.
>>98911350Hey everyone, collageanon here.Here is the Spooky/plasma/energy weapon collage. Wonderful stuff as usual. Almost 40 submissions this month!Joke/reference won the vote this time. It's a very open theme. Could be a pop culture reference or meme, a reference to something special within the setting, an inside joke or meme from the general or something else you think is funny. Really this is the most freeform theme we've had. Very exciting to see what you'll come up with.As usual feel free to share your thoughts, feedback and suggestions.Thanks for participating! Until next time!
>>98913180>The rending and AP2 spam came later.Have you forgotten that Rending used to trigger on to-hit rolls? So each roll of 6 to hit was an automatic wound that ignored armour saves (and +D6 to armour penetration). There's a reason people used assault cannons whenever possible. And what change happened in 5e that increased the number of AP2 weapons?>Plasma, Missile launcher, meltas and Laser cannonYou know, weapons just about everyone had access to. And number of weapons wasn't tied to squad size. 5 man squad could take a heavy and special weapon. Then there's all the blast weapons with AP3 and AP2.>usually you only found 1 of those per squadAre we just going to forget 6-man las-plas squads being the standard?>On a side note the common AP2 plasma was mostly from other marines.IG could have 5-man two special weapon stormtrooper squads as Troops, four special weapon command squads (both as HQ and Troops), 3 special weapon veteran squads and 3 special weapon SWS.>Guard turn rather expensive to spam and hitting on 4+ was not exactly great.Except for stormtroopers, veterans and vehicles with Ordnance weapons.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98913117>RT terminators3+ on 2D6, as it should be
>>98912708Probably because BA have never been meta as far as rules go. They may have a few exceptional characters, but they’re so focused around melee that they’ve always had a major weakness balancing them out.Also they lose quite frequently as far as lore goes. When’s the last time they’ve even had a clean victory?
>>98913236>>98913236>swolves getting btfoluv this meme
>>98912779Really makes you wonder how they decide what to include in these “discount” boxes. You put the BA box next to anything else in that lineup and it looks positively anemic.
>>98913236my nigga big floyd cant breathe…
>>98913262>how they decide what to include in these “discount” boxes"What do we have a lot of in warehouses that needs to go"That's how Christmas boxes are designed
>>98912951I was just going to use the intercessors as a non-jump death company squad to screen deep strike with a little more firepower. I tallied up all the paints and that would be almost half the price altogether. I already have speeders so I might end up selling that to my buddy, along with the captain and lib.
>>98913148cheetahs would fit a white scars successor
>>98913241>talking about 3rd/4th>what about 5th>insist on bring marine vs marine, while anon keeps saying marine bitching was the issue>mentions vehicles are the main source of this weapons>but what about vehicles!If you are not going to read, you might as well play 11th
Thinking up a homebrew chapter, rate:>Ghastian Immortals>salamander descended>pale white pallid skin (think warhammer fantasy vampire lords)>marble white color scheme with red capes and black accents>extremely logical and emotionless, even for space marines>to the point they are almost retarded in some of their decision making>affinity for machines and servitors>homeworld named Ghastia is a forge world built on a toxic swamp death world filled with horrible diseases that can even wear down posthuman immune systems and giant insects >in the lower elevation and sea level areas of the planet there is a thick miasma like fog that saps ones emotions and makes them lethargic and passive, leading to them laying down and being consumed by carnivorous flora>naturally has floral zombies in these lowland fog areas>when the marines get extremely stressed its like a switch is flipped in their brains and they start crying blood and acting really edgy, think their fellow marines dying or their plans going awry horribly>heavy use of deployable fortifications like hammerfall bunkers, tarantula turrets>everyone has some form of machine cult initiation, not to the level of a techmarine but certainly above average for marines>obvious affinity for flame weapons>most of the population of their planet is servitorized or hypnotized
Have any anons ever had anything commissioned? I suck/hate painting white and had an awful experience painting my apothecary.i picked up an apothecary biologis a while ago and thinking about getting it done by commission.
>>98913236Why the fuck are my bunnies there? I was just asking if they could count.
>>98913277>when they become enraged they reconnect with their emotions temporarily, becoming problematically compassionate and horrified at their surroundings and chapter>over the course of a few months they return to normal emotionless mode and return to committing the horrible atrocities in how they conduct war / run their homeworld>chapter master is permanently in touch with his emotions but hides it by being as brutal as possible. his greatest secret is internally he's a huge pussy by his chapters standards>frontier bulwark world that has resisted invasion by many xenos and chaos forces and just holds the line, tyranids, dark eldar, chaos etc>entire system is basically entirely devoted to a defensive posture, to the point there is even conflict with the Imperium proper about tithing as the sector hoards so much defensive weaponry >a small amount of marines are known to go renegade in the system if they become too compasionate and can't survive in the chapter anymore, and the order tacitly allows this as a way to purge themselves of the Curse of Compassion meaning there are small orders of retired penitent marines scattered around the planet and system.>when Ghastia is threatened they will rally to the planets defense before leaving again, meaning their numbers are secretly greater than what the report to the Imperium>chapter has no space navy and is entirely reliant on Imperial or Mechanicus forces to transport them to other warzones
>>98913251>When’s the last time they’ve even had a clean victory?2nd war for armageddon was preatty clean win for them, and also they took all the glory for themselves
>>98913266By that logic, shouldn’t they have included at least another squad of death company or sang guard in that BA box? Definitely could’ve fit them, especially compared to the other christmas boxes.
>>98913284The only time it's acceptable to commission paint is if you're doing a horde army of like 40+ infantry
>>98913296> you shouldn't get 1 model painted you should get 40 painted by someone elsewhat is the logic here.
>>98913284>commission painting a single small character modelyou're paying way too much for that.
>>98913290NoLet me give you some napkin math to explain the logic>we have 1,000 boxes of intercessors and want to make 500 Christmas boxes>put 2 boxes of intercessors into the Christmas boxes>we have 500 sang guard boxes and want to make 500 Christmas boxes>put 1 box of sang guard into the Christmas boxesDoes this make sense? Anything that is duplicated would have to be found twice as often in the warehouse, and none of the BA units were apparently, or at least not enough to make it worth it.
>>98913284Yeah. I got my Space Wolves painted via commission. Just check all the artists available near you and look at their work/prices to see which one fits you best. Make sure you communicate exactly what you want, no one gives a fuck about your commission as much as you
>>98913305i havent even got a quote yet, im undecided. If any anon could give me a white recipe that doesnt look chalky id be willing to try again with white> have you tried pro acryl bold titanium whiteyes it still comes out chalky.
>>98913276>talking about 3rd/4th>what about 5thDid you forget the part there you said "The rending and AP2 spam came later." As in after 3rd/4th edition. What happened "later" (aka. after 3rd/4th, aka. 5e and onward) that brought in more AP2 weapons?>insist on bring marine vs marineBy mentioning IG?>mentions vehicles are the main source of this weapons>but what about vehicles!You can't just say something wasn't being spammed with the caveat that examples of said spam does not count. Eldar had plenty of AP2 weapons back in 3rd/4th. IG had plenty of AP3 and AP2 weapons back in 3rd/4th editions.
>>98913304one model is alot easier and less time consuming to paint than the hell of batch painting dozens upon dozens of units. If it's anything less than 20 models it's not worth to commission paint
>>98913236thanks for the primo position, my friend
>>98913317do you have an airbrush? if not, you won't really get a clean white.
>>98913236I'm sad I wasn't able to finish my diorama on time. I'll finish it this month alongside something more simple for november.
>>98913332You’re pathetic because you can’t even paint a white space marine
>>98913262It suffers for the infantry picks being 5+3 man squads where often you'll see a 10+5. And there's already a budget box available for the 3 man if a BA player wants more of them. The out of date character model, epic hero, and too many upgrade sprues are icing on the shit cake.
>>98913324nope, my room is too small for it and i really dont have the room. everything i do is by brush, hence my poor experience with white.
>>98913317Pro Acryl Titanium White is the answer you are looking for anon.
>>98913338wtf anon, it wasnt even me responding to you! that was somebody else lol. and i can paint white i just cant get it to look " smooth"
>>98913287>>98913277marines are for gay men, are you a gay man?
>>98913332Hellblasters?
>>98913345don't start with titanium white. start with something a little bit more grey, then dry brush white.
>>98913351He was trying to cover his dirty tracks just ignore him>>98913355Soon to be completed so don’t fret little nomodels
>>98913349Also do what this anon suggested: >>98913358
DARK DRAGONS>They invite the Lamenters to their blood feasts because being alongside such inferior beings makes them appear far superior.
>>98912696yrp, 10 to a box. The new Cataphractoi are 6 to a box so i dread when they redo these
>>98913236Not to be a shit but are we allowed to submit someone else's models or models we just had laying around?
>>98913317Start with AK warm grey or intermediate blue depending on whether you want a warm or cool white, then highlight adding in an ivory or frost blue, and a little pure white at the end for top highlights and edges if you really want to. You don't need to use white paint to make armour look white. If the rest of the model is dark or colourful it'll read perfectly well as a white object in an environment. Bright white should be used for lights and glow effects, like the apothecary's spotlight.
>>98913358>>98913360i tried this with my last model, base corax white, recess shade with apothecary white and then tried drybrushing back up with pro acryl titanium white.it still looked chalky, im starting to think the other anon is right that its impossible to get a smooth looking white without airbrush.
>>98913380If I were you, I'd start with neutral cold grey or prime in grey and then try to layer up to titanium white with pro acryl. White's hella tough to paint, I find that many little layers can help make the difference.Drybrushing probably make it look chalkier.
>>98913375I mean anyone can do that but it seems weird, that brother is popular here and stays outta trouble so not sure why they’d target him.
>>98913389>White's hella tough to painttrue that, its enough of a headache painting the hand on my iron hands, let alone doing a whole space marine white. Hence my thought on getting the apothecary comissioned.
>>98913286>>98913375Sorry guys, my mistake. Naturally submitting someone elses stuff or something old isn't in the spirit of this. Didn't catch that old Kataphon. I can remove those two if you want.
>>98913412I'd give it a go anon, it's better to push yourself you'll end up learning a ton, plus it's fine to take an extra amount of time on a character like that. I'd do it in sections: if you can get a leg looking exactly how you want it then you can replicate it to the rest of the model without worrying about the rest of the model off the first hop.
all these fake ass niggas out there. they remind me of Horus
>>98913372slightly related but for csm it'd probably be best to get a box of tartaros and modify it with bits to a desired end state like printed cathapractii shoulders?
>>98913421i might practice on some spair sprues i have. With the technique you suggested, i really want my apothecary's to like white and not " very light grey" though.
>>98913433Don't worry about it, the grey is just scaffolding on your way to a pure white. Please just remember that pure white is as bright as it gets so you can dilute it a smidge so as to have a nice little highlight going on.
>tfw found the old cathaphracti box>they indeed looked better>and 10 on topwtf they got raped with the new one
>>98913433Look at a white object. How much of it is pure, true white right now? Stop painting like a child.
>>98913438should i layer the bold titanium white by just watering it down or using contrast medium?
>>98913289Anon that was so long ago that Mephiston was still named Calistarius. Since then they’ve basically become jobbers.
>>98913236Great stuff
>>98913473You could use a pinch of water or medium with the pro acryl, it's already quite liquid enough but you do want to work with thin coats. One more tip for you: adding water to most white paints will cause it to clot and get cahlky because that's how the formula works -- more often than not you have to use medium if you want to thin it down.
>>98913442Even putting aside the value, GW has something fucky going on with their HH terminator armors. Whoever was put in charge of them seems to have a hard on for turning shitbrick armors into thin and reedy looking things.
angron is such a little bitch. i wouldve whooped dat pussy niggas ass in the horus heresy
>>98913481damn, alright. white is such a bitch man
>>98913405>>98913415Not my Kataphon, just recognized it and thought it was odd.
>>98913498Especially pure white, typically pure white is used very sparingly, like the dot on a lens reflection or the brightest highlight on most skin complexions.
>>98911667God damn that's sick, thanks for pointing it out.
fulgrim. i wouldve made that gay ass nigga my bitch in the heresy
>>98912165>dice roll game where the company updates the rules and changes thing at a whim>competitiveIt isn'tGames like BW or 3S, CF, Hive, ARE competitive because it's about player skill, not wallets or whatever the whim of the company is>i don't recognise those abbreviationsThen you don't play any competitive games
>>98912165It's a great thing if you value your wargame being more of a simulation than a board game.
>>98913473contrast medium is for contrast paints. matte acrylic medium is for matte acrylic paints.
>>98913236>4 people were able to finish a hellblaster squad w/in a month
>his army list isn't on CD-ROMNot gonna make it
I ordered the combat patrol for HH and some other stuff just to paint and I found decent options to use them as proxies for admech except for this dude, is my only option a knight?
>>98913600The only option is to wait for this fellow to get 40k rules which will probably never happen and it's a massive shame.
>>98913115>>98913005Where did yall find that version of the template? The only one I can find that looks similar is much lower rez and has way thinner outlines
>>98913600If I remember right, the Thanatar can fit on a Dunecrawler base
>>98913588Nobody cares
>>98913605I'm painting everything regardless just to paint, but that's a shame, I'm probably gonna end up picking up most of the HH stuff for painting projects, but I figured since I don't really play and if I do it would be games against my friends getting into the hobby I could just proxy some of them like that tanks for skorpius and such
>>98913589That was a thing they used to do? Any comments on how well it worked as a format?
>>98913588Everybody cares
>>98913600Basically a mini knight in terms of scale, yeah. Iirc it’s like half the height of a dominus knight. Not really anything of similar size within the Admech range.
>>98913619I'm of the same mind, I'm painting it in my colours because it still fits my force.
>>98913506>>98913415Hey those are my models so thought I'd clarify - those are 2 different models I've painted for 2 different collages, here they are side by side. I apologise for the confusion
>>98913655
>>98913284Had a Genestealer Magus commissioned, it was alright. Her staff fell off and it wasn't based so I still need to work on it a bit.
>>98913655Don't worry about it, thanks for clearing it up! They look great. Got a third one in the works?
>>98913589anon i NEED to see a screenshot of this in action
>>98913685Third one is done actually but I painted it a while back I and dont have it photographed right now
>>98913304This guy has a grey army, probably ultramarines, and he bought the Tidus pack.
Heckblaster status!?
>>98913236Based collage posters, I wish there mere spooky themed models.
>>98913748We don’t respond to tranny chasers here
>>98913777What has that got to do with the price of eggs? If you can't finish a squad of dudes in a year you do not belong here. Also it's now VERY obvious the rest of your 16K points is commissioned, just be honest and admit it.
>>98913798You’re just new young pup, I posted tons of WiP for knights and other units. Years ago. Keep up kid..
Like an anvil he said
Mods should just range ban him already.
>>98913415Im mostly confused, since there where some that complain about them not being 40k.Just confused, not mad at all.
>>98913807You don't actively play games. You don't actively hobby. You don't actively read and keep up with lore. It's honestly pathetic, why should we keep you around?
>>98913846>You don't actively read and keep up with loreNTA but to be fair /tg/ tends to treat that as a virtue these days
>>98913855No, even diehard tards who've sworn off BL still read codexes. Mutie doesn't even do that much
>>98913807>You’re just new young pup, I posted tons of WiP for knights and other units. Years ago. Keep up kid..That you haven't worked on since? It's been like a year or so since you last posted your primed Knight defender and your Hellblasters. In that span of time you've... painted marine pauldrons? Do you have a more recent pic of the defender or like any other WIPs you've been working on? You've mentioned on reddit that you were living out of your car- is that true? If so then it's pretty understandable that you haven't been able to make much progress.
>>98913846I’m playing another game tomorrow, I started my Hellblaster again yesterday and have 16k pts of self painted models and I check 40K lore on Reddit regularly you fat stupid retard. You’re nothing to me.
>>98913864> You've mentioned on reddit that you were living out of your car- is that true? That was clearly a joke you unsociable idiot
>>98913873So many lies, truly a shameful and miserable existence you live. Alright, you had your last shot at redemption. Back to ignoring you, and hopefully you're not still around by Oct next year, you'll never be given a chance again. Persona non grata
>>98913873and then you spent hours arguing over your shit lore, and thus haven’t gotten shit done with them lmao.
>>98913896None are lies so again you look like a completely obsessive fool and are a joke to the entire hobby, I’d ask to see your models but that’d fall on your fat deaf ears.
>>98913916nta but he 100% has models and so do I, and so does everyone who shit talks you. its just no one wants to put in the effort of replying to you only for you to move goalposts or play dumb.
I don't understand pulse blastersThey're described as having a technomagic laser pointer that sucks the "bullet" to it, but like, why? What does that do that a normal pulse gun doesn't do? How does it translate to being stronger at close range? Why couldn't they make the pulse shotgun literally anything but "it's a pulse carbine that can't rapid fire"
>>98913919You have far less built/painted models than me and they are almost certainly painted at a Hellen Keller level not to mention you won’t even post them because of how pathetic and cowardly you are, this conversation is over secondary. Ascend to my level if you want to have a discussion with me next time.
uh oh he’s back to delusional gloating.
>>98913939>paints base layer, trim and shoulders on his blasters>badly, outside of the lines all over the place>this gives him enough courage to go back to gloatingIt's sad to look at but I kinda wish I had such absolute delusional confidence. Then again I like living firmly in the realm of facts and reason so
>>98913957>t.fraud posting nomodels
>>98913932see you moved the goalpost just right now. though I’m glad deep down you’re beginning to realize everyone hates you and they all have models.
>>98913966Just make sure you continue to not post them like a coward, you’re winning anon!
>>98913966He's just going to keep up this behaviour ad nauseum. I was only interacting with him the past week because there was some glimmer of a chance he might actually finish a squad of dudes, now it's over and it's best to just go back to ignoring him. He'll never change at this rate
>>98913984>you’re winning anon!is this why you consistently feel the need to argue no matter how many times you’ve been BTFO? You need to score some kind of “win” against the people bullying you? I’m just having fun pointing and laughing at your retarded paintlet ass.
Is there like a guide for making terrain and what buildings or ruins and shit I need for the terrain footprints?
>>98914008Sure bud I’ll continue to mog you openly while you hide behind the screen, got anything more to say?
>>98914020Yes we’ve seen this grotesque display of Steven Wonders attempts at modeling dozens of time now, stop posting it and piss off.
>>98914024hey, what happened to “this conversation is over”? I must have really gotten under your skin. do remember that everytime you spend crying and delusionally gloating about your poorly painted models, there’s those hellblasters on your table you still haven’t finished.
Just finished the Auxilla book it was a really fun read highly recommend
>>98914024
>Steven WondersIt has to be a bit, it has to it just has to
>>98913236ty collage anon, glad to see we got many entries this month
What the fuck do the Black Templars even want to do? I’ve read the last Helbrect book and started the new one in both they seem to have problems with the indomitus crusade which is confusing because I thought their whole thing was crusading and being mad no one else is crusading.
>>98913236there’s a lot of really good entries here, but that massive fucking plasma cannon on top the tank can’t be beat.
>>98914035Can I get a woke rating from 1 to 5, 5 being a mike brooks novel (formulate by seeing how much the book contains things like the following: mention of 'dark skinnned' characters, girl boss female characters put in leadership roles (sergeants/generals etc) or being known for being the best fighter, LGBTQ content, pronouns, etc etc). I have thought about checking it out because of the premise but won't support it financially if the rating is too high.
>>98914087Fuck off, mutant
>>98914092Not your boogyman, trannoid freak.
>>98914039He probably watched a movie or a tv show or something recently that mentioned him and Hellen Keller and now it is stuck in his mind. It's how severely autistic people work, they hang onto media desperately to feel connected to a world they can never truly be a part of. Chris chan was the exact same.
How hard are chaos space marines and the other chaos marines to paint?
>>98914099There's a reason people meme about chaos trim. And it's not good.
>>98914118hey, this conversation is over, bub. now go back to painting those hellblasters.
>>98914098This is probably true but I also just cannot get over the>StevenLike how many chromosomes does one need to be typing like that?
>>98913873>I belong here>I go on reddit regularly
So, no more codices this year, right? Tau is the soonest, and it'll be until January, arriving with a model refresh.Idk Tau stuff isn't that old is it.
Feels so long when "Hellblasters with the heavy guns version" was the closest to Primaris Devastators.
>>98914168>Tau stuff isn't that old is itThat's probably the point, and part of why they're doing it (if true, it's just a rumour right?). Christmas period always slows down work as people take time off and shit, Tau refresh would be easy to still complete ready for start of next year and then when everyone's done with the holidays it's full steam ahead for DE refresh, which would be more work.
>>98914051Were they against crusading, or were they against said crusade being Primaris?
>>98914168None. GW said it themselves in the last FAQ. Roadmap coming in December along with the balance data slate and then things should be a bit more clear.So just relax for a while and enjoy the SM/Custodes/Orks meta.
>>98914051they want to be retards with meme lorethis is a reference to their fans who are retards who only know meme lore>inb4 hurr it says your a HERETIC
Gotta highlight the metal now
>>98914087You gotta be put down man
>>98914087man shut up
>>98914181I don’t recall the first book clearly but it was more so “ugh but the great crusade brothers we got better things to do, what about our vengeance :(“ The Primaris thing wasn’t so much important as the primarch calling Helbrect a dickhead was something that still bothers him. Not gorillaman doing that but the fact that gorillaman the son of god did do that and had right to bothers him. Maybe it’ll be more fleshed out in this second book
post some else's minis you saved cuz theiyre just that nice
>>98914200>>98914204Lay off the estrogen.
>>98914087we need a chart or something that tells you which BL books are woke or not.
>>98914024Wooow! I wish I had the confidence to say 'my models are complete' and post them for years on end when they look like that!You really are brave and courageous anon!
>>98914087I think you could fit in a few more buzzwords did you even try
>>98914245You done crying, wokie?
>>98914217Ok
>decalfag gets BTFO (again) and goes quiet>shitposter takes over (again)Like clockwork
>>98914217
>post models regularly>rarely get replies>keep posting anyway this is my thread and you are all just visiting (and are very welcome and cherished)
>>98914051The BT want to do what literally every other loyalist chapter does, kill the enemies of the Imperium. Other then being religious schizos they aren't that different from any other marine chapter and the only reason why so many people think otherwise is because they look cool, they have a few good books, and Sigismund.
>255 for the battleforcesi guess slightly better than expected?
>>98914289>okay great we love that you want to kill enemies of the imperium. here's some simple rules so we don't get a repeat of the heresy, like you can only have so many space marines so we can avoid legion building>*AUTISTIC SCREECHING*
some people are just fucking insane at kitbashing
>>98914302blood angels still on suicide watchspace marines and necrons have too much shit i have too much of to be interesting, maybe the dread and ctan wind up on ebay for cheap if im luckycsm box made christmas easy for my autistic iron warriors gf tho
>>98914341chaos knights also at the same so i will likely pick it upim also tempted to get the one with 20 cultists since i have none and then get some HH terminators for my fledgeling IWs
>>98914341>blood angels still on suicide watchSince when are they ever mentally stable? Tbt our resident BA player chucking a melty just yesterday
>>98913236Beautiful work everyone, and, as always, thanks for doing this Collageanon.
ive been making okay progress on my sisters of battle (i have 30 sacresants total to paint) how are they looking so far 40kg?
>>98913236Thanks for this anon
>>98914363the girls from the back
>>98914307Gotta love me an intelligent woman.
>>98914176All I want is the Fusion Blades back, man
Tau honestly just need more Detachments. I hope they get the 15 Detachment treatment like Orks/SM and very few unique keywords.
>>98914399Maybe there's no such thing as "too much variety", but it does feel overwhelming
>>98914303Unfortunately all sons of Dorn are prone to have extreme amounts of autism inherited from Dorn himself.
>>98914181It was about Ghazghkull. Helbrecht wanted to keep hunting him but Guilliman wanted Helbrecht to protect vulnerable Shrine worlds so they argued. Mind you this is the first time Helbrecht has met Guilliman. Black Templars are known for their zealotry and Primarchs are mythical figures among all space marines. There is no smoothly arguing against the resurrected 10ft son of god that you only heard about through books and seen through grand statues. I would completely understand Helbrecht hesitating and questioning his orders to Guilliman but he straight up argues with him
>>98914399>New detachment made to be the 3 Pointer one, just a general detachment that's good at shooting>Mont'Ka and Kauyon are keyworded for flavor purposes so you can only run one or the other but they're both 2-pointers now>Battlesuits get three 1 pointer detachments, they all share the same keyword>Auxiliaries get three 1 pointer detachments, they also all share the same keyword>Advanced Acquisitions Cadre remains the same as a Pathfinder/Stealth focused 1 pointer>Generic Vehicles Detachment as a 1 pointerSource: My dad works for Games Workshop
>>98914217I’ve unfortunately haven’t saved a lot of models that I like, but this one cracks me up from how mischievously they look at each other.
>>98914473>Mont'Ka becomes 2 pointsMfw. Can we currently run both Mont'Ka and Kauyon? MontKauyon>Battlesuits get three 1 pointer detachments, they all share the same keyword
>>98914470this is the good kind of autism.
>>98914217Loved these zorn palette converted CSM.
How do you get over the fear of fucking up while drilling holes for magnets?I fucking hate magnets so fucking much and every step of magnetizing something I'm extremely paranoid I'm about to fuck it up so the magnet doesn't sit right or won't fit.
>>98914459>It was about Ghazghkull.Okay that makes more sense I was the original guy confused about what they’re slightly seething about. Definitely don’t remember that from reading the book
>>98914490I drill holes in metal for my day job, if I fuck up enough of those I lose my job so I've obviously learned how to line up a pilot hole and the skill transfers over."Measure twice, cut once" and so on.
>>98914490It's okay bro you can always magnetize the pieces back together :^)
>>98914495Any advice? I'm still pretty brand new to hobbying. I've done some magnets, but one of my weapon ports on a tank has the weapon piece sticking out a tiny and it's pissing me off.
>>98914481>are you thinking what i'm thinking B1?>i think i am B2
>>98913236I love the community aspect of this. It really makes this place feel like the cool kids club, unironically.
>>98914356We have like 6 regulars that are BA players
>>98914490If i mess up ill just buy another one
>>98914509Line it up on one axis, then on the otherIt's easier to align on a one-dimensional plane than a two-dimensional plane, so just do two one-dimensional alignments.I own a little wood vice that I use for bigger pieces (tank parts, dreadnought arms, etc) to help me, but otherwise it's just a game of>find the general spot I want to drill, make a tiny indent with drill bit>rotate part 90 degrees, do the same thingYou now have 2 "center" marks on both axes of measurement, so you just triangulate the both into the "true" center point you want to drill on.You then drill your actual hole at your triangulated point. It sounds more complicated than it is, it's mostly down to "this looks like the halfway point on this surface" and then rotating to do it again, and then seeing how both vary from the true (0,0) coordinate in your area.Sorry if this sounds confusing and I over-complicated it, I was and am an engineering student.
>>98914236My models mog yours into the shadow real you pathetic loser
>>98914545Nta but why doesn't anybody like you?
>>98914545Decalbuddy I know you're extra upset right now because of the collage but you don't have to take the bait every time. It's not good for you.
>>98914549It’s some sort of inside 4chan joke that’s been running on for years, someday they’ll die or get bored of the constant fake insults but for now we just have to deal with them.
>we
Has anyone used those colour shifting paints before? I'm hoping to get a decent pearl or mother of pearl effect to spice up the white
>>98914555you’d think if it was fake, there’d be some anon who wouldn’t be in on it, or refuse to participate. but no, it seems literally every modelposter here is in on this “joke”.
>>98914555Wow. People here are assholes. Why do you stay in this shitty place?
>>98914559That sounds like a dope color scheme. Good luck anon
>>98914561No there are plenty who refuse to engage with the sick joke and just come and post normally but some people can’t help themselves and join in the weird schoolyard bullying.
>>98914571>plentyoh yeah? name three.
>>98914571Name some or no balls
>>98914573>>98914574>inb4 do the research yourself
>>98914541Who? There's blue bangels chad but I don't count him as a stereotypical BA player, he seems pretty level headed and technically they're a successor so he's more a /yourdudes/ player. Then there's lil bro having a hissy over his NL/BA project aaand that's it, can't think of any others. Absolutely nobody else.
Reply to this post with a timestamped model if you abhor the mutant.
yall are retarded
>>98914595Honest question, what's so bad about him? I don't frequent this general much, so idk.I did see his models. Yikes, that's a lot of decals, you guys weren't exaggerating.
>>98914579He's just going to say >Anonymous boardAgain. Which is hilarious because when the opposite question was posed people could name half a dozen.
>>98914608>him
>>98914613There are no women on the internet, anon, what else can it be??
>>98914570Thanks anon, it's something I've waffled on for a while. My goal is to get a nice visual resemblance between White Scars and 30k Thousand Sons, but also to make it so that you don't immediately think of them when you see it. Undertones and all that
>>98914608His list of shittery has gotten to long to feasibly outline it all, so let me try sum it up quickly.>best case he acts like a redditor (because he is one), just posting pure cringe shit about SW or knights>often gets facts about his own factions wrong because he refuses to read books, gets all his lore off reddit (second hand unreliable source)>worst case he's incredibly hostile, lashing out at everyone, throwing tantrums when things don't go his way and they often aren't>lies about everything - his models aren't commissioned (they definitely are), he plays games all the time (he doesn't) his hellblasters are going to be done this weekend and that'll show everyone!!!Overall he's just a shithead and such an obnoxious blight on this community that a) everyone hates his guts and either ignores or is mean to him, and b) he's attracted a permaban from the mods yet still ban evades and won't just fuck off
>>98914617If you're really not him the I will give you the time honoured advice for newfags:LURK MOAR.It took me under a week to figure out why he's so despised
>>98914608Decalstorians, do your thing.
>>9891462890% of this is made up just keep that in mind newfags
>>98914591BlueBAO&TLamentersanonNimbusGuardAnonNL/BA anonHuh. I thought there were more.
>>98914661Which parts specifically? Surely you can pose a counter-argiment that isn't just >Eberywun is meen 2 me 4 no reason :'''''''(
>>98914595Post this again next thread. This one is about to die.
Should I prime in the basecoat colour?
>>98914667>BlueBA>O&T>Lamentersanon>NimbusGuardAnonThese are all successors so again, I don't really count them as BAfags. You wouldn't say someone with Blood Ravens is a TS player now would you? Or BT are really Fistfags?
>>98914595>>98914670>thread about to die>Aussie work hours on a weekdayYeah this is timed really poorly
>>98914675New painters should prime in the basecoat color, yes.
>>98914680That's fair. I do count Blood Ravens as TS though, just to spite ADB.
>>98914675For something that's mainly one colour, sure. Just make sure it's the exact colour you wanted to base coat
>>98914667I suppose I'm a BAfag but I don't really play much anymore.
>>98914470>jokero >cocklebox lol
>BA box also 255Sanguinerds STAY LOSING
>>98914608Off the top of my head, but>Started posting here after he got kicked out of Reddit>Unironically put symbols associated with Nazis on his tanks (twin lightning bolts, 88, etc), says that he's removed them after months of everyone called him out on it but has yet to post a pic of them with them actually removed>Is reportedly banned from his local LGS, so he only posts games against his Brother and his Ultramarines (Said games look staged as well)>Uses reaction gifs that you'd see on Tumblr in the early 2010s to respond to people>Constantly shittalks factions he doesn't like (Basically anything that isn't Marines or Necron), gets extremely defensive the moment you shittalk Space Wolves>Whines and kicks his feet whenever somebody calls him out on being a mutant>Calls anyone who disagrees with him a nomodels, pushes the goalposts farther back when people post models in response to him>Put on a tripcode after people said they'd stop bitching about him if they could filter him, he posted over 200+ times in a single day and removed the tripcode a few days later after people stopped replying to his posts after filtering him >Brags about how he has thousands of points of models and how he's an expert painter/builder, yet everything is stock out of the box with no kitbashing or drilled gunbarrels, paintjobs are sub-par with little effort outside of some airbrushed effects, and has terrible looking 3D Printed heads for his knights>Is directly responsible for multiple modelposters leaving the thread because of how obnoxious he is>Is directly responsible for a thread-based tradition dying out, tried to resurrect it after the fact on his own accord and rightfully got shat on for it>Is the only person to explicitly be banned from taking part in the thread's monthly model collagesNow watch as he tries to claim this is all made up despite it all being searchable in the archives.
>>98914712Based decalstorian
>>98914712I pity the brother. Also what was the old tradition?
>>98914628>>98914712Yikes. Sounds sad. Like a warning story, really. Throwing tantrums and being autistic...I thought that was part for the course in 4chan. No offense, I mean if I'm wrong then I'm wrong.>thread-based tradition dying outCriminal. What got lost?
>>98914712Very thorough, but I think it's also important to raise that he has a habit of pretending to be other people to defend himself.
>>98914712>>Uses reaction gifs that you'd see on Tumblr in the early 2010s to respond to peopleAre there approved reaction pics? I've seen you guys shit on anime and frog reaction pics. I thought those were local.
>>98914747You'll understand when you see them.
>>98914734>thought that was part for the course in 4chanThat's exactly it though, it is par for the course and a lot of channers recognise this and let a lot of autism slide, maybe have a bit of a dig at someone being a little too autismo. To be SO autistic and an asshole in such a strong combination to piss 4chan users off and get a permaban is a real feat. We don't refer to him as a lolcow for nothing.>what got lostThere was a similar thing to the collage where an anon collected cool model pics and "pinned them to the fridge" (digitally ofc). Decalfaggot caused so much drama about it fridgeanon just gave up and stopped the practice, stopped coming here too I believe>>98914747Yes, there's a whole host of 4chan approved classics and such. You have yo lurk moar to understand.>shit on animeUsually only when it's stupidly offtopic like the simps talking about which fake online girl they want to fuck.>shit on frogThis I don't believe happened.
>>98914712Again 90% of this is just me defending myself from people excessively shitting on my models for zero reason because 4chan likes to make people a whipping boy for their own amusement but sometimes jokes go to far and start to bring about a life of their own, that’s what’s happening here and some disreputable cretins here don’t know how to let things go or when something has gone too far but alas nothing I say can stop them as their appetite for drama is insatiable and once they smell blood it’s over.
>>98914761Fridge bitch got banned for being a massive hateful skank who attacked me personally many times and others as well.
>>98914763stop acting like a lulcow on a fucking anonymous image board and you won't be a target. you fucking retard.
>>98914763this has been asked numerous times, but why is it that literally no one stands up for you or defends you except yourself? there are plenty of posters who are/were massively hated or became whipping boys who still had people defending them. why are you all alone?
>>98914763Nta but reading this makes it clear the problem is from your side. Who even thinks like this on an anonymous message board...
>>98914763even if anons are being unfair, literally the worst thing you can do is be overly defensive about them. Sallyfag, and the I like orks :D poster were shit on heavily for their paintjobs (whether justified or not is up to you), but they never got defensive over it, and would either not reply, ask kindly for advice, or even outright agree there’s room for improvement. After that, posters stopped treating them as a “whipping boy”
I miss the fridge
>>98914733>>98914734Let me regale you about ye olde Fridge>An anon began posting a Fridge where people could request to have a model they were proud of get added to it>Many anons participated, to the point where a second fridge had to be introduced>Decalfag asks to get put on the fridge (This is months after he first started showing up)>Is told to fuck off>FridgeAnon gives Decalfag opportunities to get put on the fridge with good behavior, he slips up within days every time>Is eventually told he's not allowed anymore, a "No Sloppers Allowed" sign is put on the fridge going forward and he's banned for good>Decalfag posts fake versions of the Fridge with one of his Knights added>People call out his shit each time>Eventually FridgeAnon gets a permaban from a mod because they called out Decalfag's shit one thread (Keep in mind Decalfag also regularly ban evades and has been banned at least 200+ times as of today)>Reveals that they were actually a thread regular who painted Lamenters, and was also in charge of hosting a collection of paint recipes from other anons, makes one final send-off post saying they're leaving for good>Other anons follow suit, say they're tired of the constant shitposting in /40kg/ and they fuck off to /wip/ or parts unknown>A few days later Decalfag tries to bring back the fridge with one of his models again, people shit on him even more due to the backlash in previous threadsPic related is the last version of the Fridge before the ban I believe.
>>98914747>I've seen you guys shit on anime and frog reaction pics. I thought those were local.Pepe was originally from /b/ with shit like feels good man, then spread to /v/, but not really much else. Nu-pepe is pretty driven by election tourists who don't understand 4chan culture and don't want to. Like 80-90% of anime hatred is also from election tourists. Unless it's vtubers, then idk, they're too new for old 4chan to have interacted with, but we've never been too kind to e-celebs so there's probably not have been a warm reception.
>>98914763uh oh, mutant melty imminent
>>98914766>and others as well.[Citation needed]
>>98914770People are afraid or just don’t want to deal with the retaliation from defending me so they would rather let me drown in the sea of negative comments than risk drowning themselves to save me.
>>98914761>>shit on frog>This I don't believe happenedIt was an artisanal OC pepe, even. But maybe it was off topic, I guess. Oh well, life goes on.>>98914763As long as you keep pushing, the environment will keep pushing back. You may feel entitled to your opinion, but if you really want it all to change, it would be you who needs to take the first step by letting go of the gas pedal.Literally a non-newtonian fluid - the more you strike, the harder it gets.
>>98914793Holy cope
forgot to post this back when the whole https clusterfuck was happeing but i finished the last model in the armageddon boxnext up saving money for the multipart boyz, and a snazzwagon to creep ever close to a real 1000 point army
>>98914781Anyone have the hi-def version? I thought the fridge would last forever, hopefully the mutant offs itself and we can begin to heal.
>>98914793I could defend you in one comment and attack you on the next. Who the hell is going to know? This is an anonymous thread! We can be whoever we want, yet YOU CHOOSE TO BE RETARDED
>>98914763>Again 90% of this is just me defending myselfDid you ever stop to think that people shit on you constantly because you keep trying to "defend" yourself? This is Lolcow Behavior 101, people keep replying to you because they know you're going to reply back every single time.
>>98914812we've tried to explain that to him over and over. for literally over a year anon. its pointless. the mutant is beyond hope, beyond redemption, beyond the light of even God almighty.don't bother.
>>98914793how do you know this to be the case? how do you know there’s a silent majority who refuse to speak up? why do they feel comfortable standings up for other massively hated anons, but for you they make an exception?
>>98914781Nooooooo
>>98914763And you don’t think literally everyone else is right after all this time, or wonder if there’s any merit to anything these longer term anons say? I do feel sorry for your brother. If you’re like this to strangers, I can only imagine how your family endures you.>>98914781Aww, seems like a rather fun tradition too. The disrespect to try snd resurrect it despite being the one to cause it’s cancellation too…
>>98914810Its in the discord. Someone probably has a link to it hosted off-site somewhere too.
>>98914809heres the whole army together
>>98914781I might just be a daydreaming failure here, and I’m kind of retarded so forgive my asking, but how would one go about editing something like the fridge? is there some software to use?
>>98914782>Like 80-90% of anime hatred is also from election touristsDon't kid yourself, people who use anime reaction images (outside of dedicated anime boards) are commonly looked down on as being smug and arrogant, also when proven wrong they don't admit it and often double down. This is where the>smuganimegirl.jpegSort of meme comes from and it's not a new thing.
>>98914763>Again 90% of this is just me defending myself from people1. This isn't again, this is a new claim. Your old claim was that everything was made up and when asked to substantiate it you his like a bitch.2. Why the fuck do you need to defend yourself? This is an anonymous board. Why the fuck do you have an ego? This is why I shit on you for saying you belong. Your entire attitude is the antithesis of 4chan.
>>98914818Because that’s how nasty and ill natured the vitriol spewed against me is and how relentless it has been for years. It’s the old trope of first they came for them and I said nothin..so on and so forth.
>>98914827holy kino, a welcome treat after hearing the mutant prattle. what’s the waaagh banner say? I can’t quite make out anything aside from “gits”
>>98914828Anon, how old are you and when did you start using computers? Just curious
>>98914821His brother must have the patience of a saint.
>>98914831W/e I’m finishing my blasties and will post them later tonight, hopefully to either silence or simple constructive criticisms
>>98914832Theyre not coming for anyone but you because you're the only one who is constantly making an ass of yourself.
>>98914840I don't think everyone knows Paint.net off the bat. That being said, I no longer count as "young" myself any more, so...
>>98914832why’d you answer one question and not the other, again, how do you know any of what anonymous posters are thinking? don’t forget there’s plenty of people who’ve actively participated in making fun you and not on the sidelines.
>>98914545You're absolutely right! Your signature basecoat & dip style absolutely 'mogs' every other hobbyist on this board!I am so inspired by your work that I'm going to make some space wolves :^D
>>98914843KWAB
>>98914859What does kwab mean.
>>98914843>hopefully to either silence or simple constructive criticismsWhy would anyone give you constructive criticism any more when you've shown in the past that you blow off any criticism thrown your way, constructive or otherwise? Legitimately, I believe that you're going to put them off again today just like you have for the last year.
>>98914829I've been here a long time, and anime was at worst tolerated on every board until th mid 2010s. Or at least the ones I was on, which admittedly was mainly/tg/. Even what you're saying is nothing compared to the outright hatred election tourists have for anime
>>98914832>for yearsYou've been at it for years?! Dude nooo!
>>98914861Kek What A Bitch
>>98914862There's a mini painting manga? Sauce?
>>98914843You won't.
>>98914853Well that's why I'm curious about anon's age and experience with computers. Paint (including .net) does seem like an oldhead thing the newgens simply wouldn't really use/know about, but then there's the whole discussion about AI and the vibe coded Adobe suite, and zoomer/alphas are all into that AI shit so surely most of them are at least aware of the existence of photo editing software
>>98914839Nta but it says “Drive fast hit gits”.
>>98914869Sorry anon but its Gunpla not minis
>>98914872I remember cleaning my memes by hand. Regular Paint is so vastly improved from before I can hardly believe it. Layers!
>>98914843>or simple constructive criticismsI thought you paintmogged everyone in the thread. What happened to that bravado?This is how I know my criticisms are accurate btw, no matter how much you scream and shout about liars whenever someone says something that actually hurts you, you sulk. You make a sullen post like this because you know what is said is true and can't argue against it.
>>98914876 even better
>>98914876Dolls are dolls, anon
>>98913284>get off white (not pure white) primer which are pretty good these days>wash the model with either a light sepia or light grey wash depending on whether you want warm/cool>while it's still wet get rid of any pooling on flat areasIt's that easy.
>>98914880Fuck oath, .net is pretty crazy these days and *free*. Rip in pieces to the "1,000 hours in MS Paint" meme
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