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>>98914742NipponFox girls
>>98914742Hobgoblin Khanate. Because it’s a criminally underexplored idea with immense historical and fantasy potential. Imagine Hobgoblin Khans who worship the Open Sky. Kino.
98914732Not deserving of you (You). Cry more, GW slop eater. Why not play AoS if you want constant change and enshitification of miniatures? Or get a 3D printer and print whatever suits your fancy? Stop wishing things were ruined for people with taste.
>>98914813You will never be man sized
Kislev next winter btw. Screencap this
>>98915012I already screen capped this 2 winters ago And a summer ago
>>98914806Only way to make me start a greenskin army desu
What are the most affordable old world armies?
>>98915375I buy from some 3d proonter off of eBay so all of them.
>>98915375Depends. Do you want to use secondhand Fantasy metals, recasts, or brand new official Old World MSRP models? Anyway the answer is Ogres.
Those new ogres are callin' me, lads. May be time for a feast.
>>98915417I like how they added texture to make the skin look tough. Like yeah these lads got fat rolls but their skin looks like rhino hide, it's cool.
>>98915375lizardmen and orcs are the most easy 2nd hand armies to get imo
anyone got the page for that 4 player battlemarch scenario on the new TK journal?
Is this lore for a Barrow Kingdom too weird?>primitive tribe believe that a different “guide” comes for you when you die depending on how you live your life>they believe you are reborn and start life anew when you reach that destination the specific guide takes you>to represent this culturally, the dead are buried in fetal positions, their mounds meant to represent the pregnant belly of a mother>Mortuary Cult think its weird, but entertains it to learn more about the process
>>98914742>TQDark Elves looool.
>>98915792That's Lelith Hesperax.
>>98914316Why?
>>98915787you don't need an excuse to have the dead buried in a foetal positionjust say they're buried in a foetal position and cut off the fetishistic crap
>>98915828And you posted the worst 8th Edition slop. Cringe.
>>98914742isnt there a bit too much space between the skelletons ribcage and hips?
>>98915868not an 8th ed artworknot 8th ed unit designsman, you're bad at being a fake grog
>>98914742>>Thread Question:>You get to turn 1 people/faction/race in the WHFB setting into a fully fledged army. Which race and why?Speaking of new factions, the guy doing the latest leaks for aos posted this.
Do you think the new skeletons will come in boxes of 24 or 36?Could buying two of the new boxes ever be worth it? I was just planning on buying another box of archers desu
>>98916054Separate boxes will probably be 36, since that's the amount in the reinforcement box
>>98914483>>98914657There have been some misses but also hits, plus a new unit or two per army could be fun. Maybe use it to slowly give us legend armies back.
What's the difference between The Old World, Fantasy and Age of Sigmar?
why do people larp as grogs tho?
>>98916160TOW is WHFB but like 250 years in the past, AOS is a setting reboot made for modern day WoW players
>>98916018perfectly rounded rosterwe just have to wait for 2029, I guess
>>98916160TOW is a specialist game made to entice secondaries who know the setting from TWW and Vermintide, and to kowtow to the Chinese in the hopes they'll stop recasting GW minis (they won't.)Age of Sigmar is GW's flagship fantasy miniature line and tabletop game. It is the most popular fantasy wargame in the world and reflects the setting's current development."Fantasy" is the broad category under which both fall, as both are two points on the same timeline.Hope this helps.
>>98916175>he says>as AoS gets End Times'd
Can you be less obvious when you samefag please
>>98914742>TQFimir, I think they're a really interesting race in the background and I think making them another MI option for WoC does them a disservice, both narratively and mechanically. Also that fake Fimir army still lives in my head rent free.
>>98916018>aos getting vcoastImagine the secondary seethe
If you were going to make a 750 Battle March for WoC, what would you take? Also, general Battle March ideas
>>98916160>Fantasy Battlesrank and flank fantasy wargame set in a fantasy world very similar to earth, in the time period shortly before, or during, its end times; if you're familiar with total war warhammer, this is that world and that period.>The Old Worldessentially a new edition of the same rank and flank game, the world is the same, the time period is a pair of centuries before those end times, but in practical terms the difference in time period matters very little aside from some missing characters.>Age of Sigmara streamlined fantasy wargame with units on round bases set in high fantasy/high magic new worlds that formed an unknown amount of time after the end times of the warhammer fantasy world, some factions and characters have survived, others haven't and instead we find new ones.>The Last Worldthe mortal realms of the age of sigmar are undergoing an "end times" of their own next year, and the setting is getting soft-rebooted again, the 8 nebulous high magic 'worlds' are getting destroyed and a new, "last" world is forming, apparently lower in its high-fantasy/high-magic extremes, otherwise it's a way smaller timeskip and change than the one from the end times to the age of sigmar, tonally a return to the form of the old world and fantasy battles, but with age of sigmar factions.
>>98916018>wants mannfred out of AoS>wants Vlad and vampirates in AoS>seemingly no awareness of TOW's existence or its viability to accommodate the characters and armies that originated in the game it's emulatingI guess people like that also exist. Still confuses me.
>>98916212from my experience, TWW-secondaries are too retarded for TOW anyway
>>98916249>tonally a return to the form of the old world and fantasy battlesI wouldn't go that far as of yet, it seems they'll most likely be keeping their higher than high mythic fantasy landscapes, just on one planet instead of 8 different ones.
>>98914742>TQAmazons
>>98916167Shitposting to stir arguments.To get a reason to larp as superior shittalk new editions and talk down to newer players. Tourists tryingto fit in.
>>98916175Well crafted bait, well done.
>>98916170Vampire coasts is kinda ugly now that I’m imagining those as actual units
>>98916550Yeah I have no love for the faction, but I wouldn’t mind TOW getting it just to deny AoS from stealing another WHF thing.
>>98916546Was it, when he's used the same one before and no one's still taken it?
I think performative seething at AOS is the biggest tell of fake grogs.
>>98916550the hats are vital
>>98916640Giving it another try?
>>98916679Not b8, just trueSome fags think it makes them fit in
>>98916683How big is your folder?
>>98916160WHFB was a pretty fun, silly wargame until about 2002 when it was slowly replaced by a cynical corporate cash-in wearing the same skin. that wasn't making enough money though, so they killed it in favor of AOS, an even more cynical cash-in that reoriented toward the upcoming generation raised on smartphone games. then THAT wasn't making enough money, so they made TOW a (somehow) even more cynical cash-in aimed at recapturing some of the older market.there's still some good stuff in there, you just have to dig way way down.
>>98916160Old World and Fantasy are rank and flank games where units move in set formation, meaning units wheel, reform and manoeuvre as blocks. It has square bases, it also has more relevant unit loadout customization for both normal unit weapons and items for heroes. Flanking, morale, effects of banners etc.are important for combat resolution. Typically much more minis on tables than AOS also it's more of classic middle ground between dark and high fantasy compared to AOS's more modern high fantasy. TOW and WHFB have fundamentally the same core gameplay, just that certain systems got tweaked and are slightly different.AOS uses round bases and units aren't in blocks and move as squads where minis can be positioned independently within a set range. Armies are composed of regiments featuring a character and a few units. There isn't army loadout customization, but unit abilities are much more more important and the game also has certain army abilities you can spend replenishing points to trigger every round on certain units. Morefast paced than old world, miniatures are also bigger on average.
>>98916018>TOW does cathay, kislev, and ind>AOS does nippon, kuresh, and vampirates
>>98916766When you say it like that we really got the short end of the stick.
>>98916175>and to kowtow to the Chinese in the hopes they'll stop recasting GW minisWhat? How is this even a thought process? They have entire city factories that just make knock-offs of other products all over the place. Getting a knock off that looks just as good for a cheaper price is a point of pride culturally.
>>98916640Any supposed grog or WHFB fan who doesn't hate AOS is just a straight up cuck, period, end of. Put aside that the End Times was a fucking insult just because of how garbage it was in execution. Put aside that AOS is itself low-effort slopshit excreted to feed the most mindless paypigs. Purely on the basis of the >fuck you we killed your game haha dance and pretend to talk to your horse for rerolls you losers hahahaha rules they put out for WHFB armies in AOS 1st, anyone with even the faintest whiff of dignity and self-respect should hate AOS for eternity.The company that wants our money killed the thing we enjoyed and then literally laughed in our faces about it. You have to be a 100% bitch made faggot not to hate anything that does that.
>>98916827>How is this even a thought process?You're asking a lot out of anon.
>>98915864Coming up with a reason is the whole point of writing fluff. I don’t think a Junji Ito reference is fetishistic, I’m just wondering if it’d be too weird for a Warhammer backstory.
>>98916893anon said performative seething.legitimate seething is fine. nobody suggested we should forgive GW or stop hating on AOS players. obviously they deserve it. just don't be performative about it.
>>98916893I guess this is what 'Turn Brands into Identities' looks like in practice.
>>98916893>Any supposed grog or WHFB fan who doesn't hate AOS is just a straight up cuck, period,Not a cuck, just not that emotionally invested into my plastic toys and Games Jewshop to have gay IP grudges
>>98916893>Any supposed grog or WHFB fan who doesn't hate AOS is just a straight up cuck, period, end of.The only cuck here is you for treating a wargame so seriously lmaoThe people who are not mentally ill consoomers who identify with products will have no issue liking both if the minis are fun to paint and if the rules are fun.
>>98914806Seconding this, khanate would be fucking rad
>>98914806>immense historical and fantasy potential>goblin wolf riders>bigger goblin wolf riders>goblin wolf chariots>bigger goblin wolf chariots>...some kind of squigs...care to post any specific examples of what you're thinking about when you imagine them?
sup anonsI want to revisit an idea I had and I'd like your inputI want to make a Tarot Major Arcana with warhammer depictions, I have a few picked so I'd like your suggestions>The Fool(new beginnings, start of a journey, blissful ignorance)Felix making his oath to Gotrek>The Magician(resourcefulness, skill, ability, logic, intellect)Teclis>High Priestess(Desirability, unattainability, mystery, sensuality, spirituality, thirst for knowledge, mystery)Morathi>The Empress(fertility, motherhood, sensuality, nurturing, creativity, beauty, femininity)Alarielle>The Emperor(stability, dependability, fatherhood, father-figure, structure, protectiveness, authority)Karl Franz>The Hierophanttbd>The LoversGenevieve and Detlef or Vlad and Isabela >The CharriotSettra>StrengthGotrek releasing a gryphon mid fight, it happened in a short story>HermitKhatep>Wheel of Fortunetbd>JusticeStarbreaker holding the crown with Caledor ll dead>Hanged Mantbd, Malekith probably???>Death(Spiritual transformation, new beginnings, letting go, endings, change, transition)tbd, NOT Nagash, he doesn't fit the meaning>Temperancetbd>The Deviltbd>the TowerPolar Gates collapsing>the Startbd>the MoonLileath>the Sunvictorious Magnus the Pious at the end of the great war on chaos>Judgmenttbd>The WorldGhal Maraz
Did a scenario from the battle march compendium, found out beastmen do a pretty piss poor job at defending objectives, especially when you’re being picked apart by volley fire. A rare L for my beastmen, but I’m going to be building and painting up some ungor archers as a response.
>>98917121is it going to be bot slop?
>>98917128Wood elves range that deadly? Hard luck man.
>>98917118NTA, but plenty of things. Maybe a dedicated stealth unit ala sneaky stabbas just as a full unit, howdahs on some kind of giant warbeast, special mongolian flavored mystic shaman. Could also use extra mercs, ogres and Hung tribesmen.There’s probably plenty of things from ancient mongolian culture that I don’t know about that could also serve as inspo.
>>98917121I think the Empire does have its own cards, with the Major Arcana being based on the Imperial Zodiac, which I don't think is explained, but it's Star Signs and the gods so you could probably use that as a basis
>>98917145Oh it was comical how badly I was rolling. He managed to snipe my shaman turn two with his waystalker, and it all went downhill from there. His rangers also fucked my drogres to death bc I didn’t know about their anti fear unit ability.
>>98917156that's just stuff we already have or had, plus a squiggothis a whole new faction really needed for any of that?
>>98917172I mean seeing as it doesn’t exist, there’s plenty of changes one could theoretically make to differentiate it. Not everything needs to be wholly unique, some overlap between it and O&G would be fine. I feel like making them a company of mixed mercenaries is an interesting angle. Kind of an evil version of Renegade Crowns.
>>98917196>plenty of changes one could theoretically make to differentiate itand yet when I asked about it all you came up with was more of the same
>>98917213Alright well there’s no accounting for literal retardation. Have a problem with empire knights because brets already “have knights?”
>>98917196Could maybe have some guns they bought from chorfs.
>>98917220I'm literally asking for actual specific examples of such differences that you are actually imagining.
>>98917242Alright, maybe a giant war-elephant carrying the war tent for the khan. Hoboblins with chorf guns like >>98917226 said. Hung mercs with long mustaches and dual hand weapons. An upgrade for their wolves thats them feeding them drugs to make them extra vicious but with a chance for them to eat their rider. Hell, maybe some lardass hobgoblin who acts as treasurer, a hero to help mitigate a unique backstab mechanic that replaces impetuous.
>>98917267and you think that warrants a new faction instead of being some options or unit added to the orcs&goblins
>>98917282Yes.
>>98917290can you tell me why savage orcs, black orcs, night goblins, and forest goblins, shouldn't all be separate different factions then?
>>98917313In setting, O&G refuse to work with hobgoblins. They do not trust them, hence why hobgoblins are on their own as khanates in the north, or shack up with chaos dwarfs.
Is James completely high? I haven't looked at Warhammer prices in a year and the new Tzeentch MTOs are 50€ for what should be a 30€ at most per model.
>>98917455The Metal MTO have been overpriced for you get the same was true for the Empire and Brettonian infantry ones
>>98916683Oh. I remember that fag.It's always important to remember that most e-celebs (if they can even be called that) have basically no morals or personal ethics and will say anything for attention.
>>98917483grail knights need to complete a grueling quest before drinking Lileath's bath watermamy imperials knights are just rich kids
>>98917463It has been a hot minute so maybe I'm just not remembering the price point they were operating at. I just don't remember it being at this level a year or two ago. Of course I could be wrong.
>>98917507It was six metal minis for £54 (Command character sold separately for £30 or something like that)The Orc MTO they did later was more reasonably priced from what I remember
>>98917121First think about iconic imagery, events or themes, ideally at least one per faction, and only then try to assign them to the various slots of the tarots.
>>98917317In setting the black orcs also refuse to work with a lot of other tards that you'll find in an orc&goblins list.That's not a good excuse.
>>98917574No, it's different. Hobgoblins are viewed as the enslavers/traitors of the greenskin race. They are the worst kind of greenskin to the other greenskins. Black Orc hatred for them can't be compared to any other type of greenskin.
>>98917162Hard luck. Though you do know a character in proximity to a unit cannotbe sniped right? Unless WE break that rule.
>>98917585>No, it's different. Hobgoblins are viewed as the enslavers/traitors of the greenskin race.Slavery is common amongst orcs and goblins and so is betrayal.It's not different.
>>98917701Stop being a h*bgoblin apologist.
>>98917711I'm not an apologist, I'm saying they don't deserve their own country.
Building sepulchural stalkers. I don’t care that they are shit. I am including at least 3 in my 2k list
>>98917313>why savage orcs, black orcs, night goblins, and forest goblins, shouldn't all be separate different factions then?They should
>>98917657They can target a character but look out sir still applies
>>98917712I was just saying they deserved their own army, but you’re retarded so its fine if we don’t agree
>>98917738>normal orcs >mercenary orcs>black orcs >savage orcs>iron orcs >swamp orcs>hill goblins >pirate goblins>hob goblins >forest goblins >night goblins >sun goblinsthis is way too many armies, you can have either one book, 2 books, 3 books or 4 books, provided they're thematically and equally split, not any more.
What are Renegade Crowns good at? I'm reading through their army and they mostly seem like Empire but gimped.Phalanx is a nice trick, and Blunderbuss Brigands seem good. I can see the appeal in having Warband on my infantry and the novelty of putting armour on my shooty units.But after that it all seems quite empty. The cavalry is both bare-bones and expensive, there's no support characters, and nothing flashy or hard-hitting. I'm struggling to believe that the upsides are worth playing RC over Empire, to say nothing of the risk of my army being Legended.
>>98917313>>98917837Rediscovering launch agr of sigmar from first principles
>>98917172>>98917196no hobgoblins dont actually need an army. they could have just happily continued being a couple chaos dwarf units and the would be fine. it's just another example of splitting something off to sell more monster kits.>>98917282>>98917313>>98917317>>98917701every other greenskin in setting hates hobgoblins with a burning fury for selling them into slavery with the chorfs. it's one of the deepest most ingrained hatreds in the entire setting. hobgoblins are kill on sight for every other type of orcs and gobs. asking to ally hobgoblins with O&G is like asking why the wood elf list doesn't have the option to take beastmen. makes zero sense.
>>98917128Are these huts from pillage?
>>98918017Looks like it, along with the fences from pillage
>>98918017>>98918069Yup, great little kits, and dirt cheap compared to GW’s stuff. Need to give Pillage a proper try too, I love the fire spreading mechanic.
>>98917956>chaos dwarf unitsFor what its worth, despite me wanting a khanate army, I agree with you. My logic is that since AoS has stolen yet another of our factions (chorfs), we won’t see them returned, and Khanate would be a way to bring back some of those ideas to TOW. Wishful thinking of course, but I was just having fun spitballing ideas.
>>98917313>Codex: Empire Archers
>>98914742> TQA proper Marienburg roster would be awesome and very appropriate for the time period. While it could very easily be an Empire AoI, I think it would be more faithful to be a Renegade Crowns AoI.Core of the army would look a lot like RC with Sellswords, Freeblades, Free Company and Brigand units. You'd get a few more Empire treats like Engineers and Road Wardens, but then you'd also get Marienburg-specific Sailor Priests and Templar-Marines in place of Warrior Priests and Greatswords.It would also need to have access to Hugh Elf Sea Guard and Ship's Company from their AoI for Elftown, maybe with a representative Hero.Obviously abundant access to Mercenaries of all stripes.
>>98917890Renegade crowns are mostly just there for /yourDudes/ and nothing else unless you want a human army to have a bonegrinder giantUntil some Dogs of War content comes to TOW there goign to remain pretty barebones
>>98917815You were had bro. Unless the unit strength was less than 5 and your char is 3" from the unit, he is untargetable.
>>98917021>>98917040>>98917050Unlike you, you samefagging poof, I feel no need to performatively pretend to be uncaring about the things I enjoy, or pretend I enjoy them ironically. You may be stuck as a perpetual tween, desperately trying to pretend you're too good for the stuff that you enjoy so you can hang out with subhuman normieshitters, but not everyone is that pathetic.
>>98916893>Any supposed grog or WHFB fan who doesn't hate AOS is just a straight up cuck, period, end of.This is true. There is a GW marketing push to end the feud but honestly it'll never pan out. AoS is just a toxic brand. But you can see it because all of the content creators, who doubtlessly communicate with GW, are pushing it. Like Mountain Miniatures and Square Based. And then on the WFB reddit, you get astroturfed memes topping the recent best above any organic WFB content. It's disgusting and sad.Fuck AoS and fuck AoS gamers. Tick tock, troons.
>>98918260based fuck AoS troon and the cucks playing it. Literal slop for the goypigs they are.
>>98915904Nigga the nuCorsairs are disgusting ugly bullshit. The ones you posted were released months before 8th came out, and follow the shitty design language of 8th resculpts given to HE and DE. Corsairs look like picrel, not the shitslop you posted.
>>98918272> nu> a unit released in 2008> a full 2 years before WFB 8E
>>98918247Waystalkers have this though
>>98918310He's right. They are the new or "nu" sculpts that have the same weird look as revamped Druchii spearmen and crossbowmen, as well as the redone High Elf plastics like White Lions and Phoenix Guard. It's a bad look.
>>98918346no, you're not right, they're not from 8th, nor follow the design philosophies pf 8th ed elf kits, you've never had one in hand, be it a 7th ed one or a 6th ed one
>>98918310>nugood oldbad troll still doing his dumb shitFuck off already. AoS seems more your speed.
>>98918310>they're only 18 years old, you sick fuck
>>98918250>samefagginglol>I feel no need to performatively pretend to be uncaring about the things I enjoy, or pretend I enjoy them ironically. I do neither of those things. I enjoy WHFB/Old World and painting my plastic dudes without turning it into some sort of gay IP tribalism or identity, it's just a hobby I like. I don't need to hate AOS to like it.> but not everyone is that pathetic.I'd say treating a hobby like a tribal identity is the pathetic category here.
>>98918551>treating a hobby like a tribal identitynta but that's not really it. It's treating the people who like AoS like the shithead troons they are. They should stay away from our comfy grog game and setting and stick with Sigmarxist crap.
>>98918562>It's treating the people who like AoS like the shithead troons they are.Impotent headcanoning. And I won't be doing that either. Don't give a shit which fag likes what.
>>98918574tbqhfampai nobody really asked you. you're the one coming around to repeatedly counter WHFB players disliking AoS and the people who play it. to what end? I think you're just a GW shill. WHFB/TOW is healthier without the AoS crowd and the enmity between our kinds is a good thing.
I find it funny that people still call 8th ed "new" when the edition launched over 16 years ago.Just for context, the rulebook for 8th ed Fantasy is older than the Necron lore retcon and the first Badab War book.
>>98918601In the scheme of Warhammer Fantasy, 8th edition was only 1 edition ago. It's still among the "newhammer" era, and was largely responsible for the death of WFB. Some morons like to repeat "muh fantasy was already dead before 8th! they just wanted to milk money out of the people who still played!" but that's just not true. GW wouldn't have launched 8th just for some residual money. It's the newest edition of WFB (not TOW), so it's still new.
>>98918588Your post is pure retardation>tbqhfampai nobody really asked youNo one asked you either, I was responding to that anon saying "You must hate AOS or you're cucked" and pointed out treating it like tribal identity is retarded> repeatedly counter WHFB players disliking AoS and the people who play it. to what end? > I think you're just a GW shill.More schizo fantasy, I only responded to that one fag saying you have to hate it and treat it like some sort of brand identity and accused the people disagreeing of samefagging lol
>>98918608>but that's just not true.‘Cept it was Take your meds troon
>>98918613Consumerism is the new western identity anon. Don’t tackle his own brand of mental illness.
>>98915375I built a Lizardmen army around the time TOW released and I had a fairly easy time finding 2nd hand models online for good prices.
>>98918601Eh, it's more about the swap from hand sculpted to digital sculpting. They weren't the first, but with elves it was particularly noticeable because of the strength of the replaced metal sculpts.The new sculpts are decent enough, but they lack the character you find in the old sculpts.
>>98918626Character and elves don’t go together
Bought a bunch of used fucked up skeletons to practice paint schemes on before my TKs arrive. Ignoring the gold trim, what do you guys think of the red shield? Would this primary color work with maybe a turquoise secondary? Need tips on how to make the scrolls look good too.
>>98918608Even though it's the "newest" edition of Fantasy (if you don't count TOW), it's still not new. It's pretty old as GW edition go these days.The "newest" war between Britain and Germany was the 2nd World War.
>>98918632>The "newest" war between Britain and Germany was the 2nd World War.That wasn't a war, that was the UK getting its shit pounded until America came to save them.
>>98918562Nah honestly this is just terminally online shit. Irl AOSfags are normal on average. Most of the troons and shitlibs I've seen were playing/discussing 40K. Sigmarxism is when you look at it 90% 40K https://www.reddit.com/r/Sigmarxism/
>>98918641>Sigmarxism is when you look at it 90% 40K https://www.reddit.com/r/Sigmarxism/tbf it's by far the most popular of the GW IPs so makes sense, but AOS is the most pozzed out of the gate.
>>98918641While generally true, only troons play AoS. All the LGS in my area have a bunch of 40k players obviously, but then the crossovers are only the fat men in dresses with 5 o clock shadows.
>>98918658>only troons play AoSNope as I've said that's just terminally online meme perception, they're normal on average. > All the LGS in my area have a bunch of 40k players obviously, but then the crossovers are only the fat men in dresses with 5 o clock shadows.Doubt that, but that's anecdotal, my anecdotal experience is the opposite. So doesn't mean anything in either case.
>>98918626>metal sea guard with plastic sea guard shieldsngl that's pretty kino.
>>98918691Oh, they are metal shields (and a bastard to paint).
>>989187075th Edition seaguard game with blank plastic shields. The ones you posted are using the Island of Blood seaguard shields that have 3D features and tassels.
>>98918641Why do thy even call it Sigmarxism if there's very little AOS stuff posted?
>>98918736Guess they made some metal shields later then, make them they did. I don't think the plastic models even have shield variety.Don't make me get into my storage to take evidence pics.
>>98918755emperorisim doesnt quite match their ideology. Something about conquerors. idk.
>>98918755I never really followed plebbit shitters, so idk if it was ever about age of sigmar in the first place. I'm assuming it's just because the name sounds catchy.
>bitch deleted his post instead of just admitting to be wrong about decade old miniature releasesWhat kind of kindergarten shit is this?
>>98918827what the fuck are you talking about anon
>>98918827Those look real nice. I always ran my Spearman with the included quivers and helmet garnishes as Sea Guard.
>>98918839I think the 6th edition book basically said to do this with spearmen, and to just paint dragons on their shields. idk can't really remember without looking.Speaking of seaguard, the OP links don't have the High Elf AJ. Boooo.
>>98918842The instruction booklet for the TOW re-release of the Spearmen shows it as a way to make Sea Guard. Warmed my heart to see.
>>98918608>muh fantasy was already dead before 8th! they just wanted to milk money out of the people who still played!" but that's just not truePriestley states in an interview that whfb was in hot water as early as 3rd edition.>GW wouldn't have launched 8th just for some residual moneyWhy the fuck wouldn't they have lol
>>98918850>Priestley states in an interview that whfb was in hot water as early as 3rd edition.A game designer's statement on the state of the line from the 80s means nothing.>Why the fuck wouldn't they have lolThat's not how publicly traded companies work.
>>98918842That was always hilarious to me, because even the serpent motif in the armybook instructions didn't look very good.Honestly can't think why they didn't just include some serpents in the sprue.
It's too bad Seaguard are today and have always been utter dogshit for their points. The only reason to use them is if you like the theme.
>>98918850>As early as 3rd.Maybe in his mind as an employee fearing for his project. But reality is higher ups greenlighted a whole plastic starter box by 5th so they still had strong hopes it will catch up. No doubt they knew it was a dead dream by 8th tho.
Since we are talking about minor factions like hobogoblins>CW recruit mostly from Norscan, Hung and Kurgan>Norscans are vikangz, that's fitting and cool>Hung are horsefuckers, that's fitting and cool>Kurgan are... also horsefuckers... why?Always felt really wasteful to me purely narratively. Feels like an obvious third source of recruits would be Sword and Sorcery notConan/notCimmerian barbarians instead of more horsefuckers. Especially given how old Marauders looked like Sword & Sorcery and not vikangz like new ones. Just confusing all around for me
>>98918879Drilled and the free reform after shooting makes them fun to play at least.
Made a post in the AoS thread a couple days ago about how I wanted to get a Warhammer gift for my friend who always showed interest for the hobby but only ever played the Total War games. Between the info I managed to gather on my own and the helpful anons back there, I decided to get him these Spearhead magazines since they seemed cheap and small enough to check if he actually likes the whole collecting, painting and so on before investing into something bigger.Thing is, as the anons pointed out, the AoS stuff isn't really what he knows of from the TW games, so I decided to also look for something closer to the lore he's accustomed to. I know of The Old World and anon also mentioned Battle March. He likes the dwarfs, rats and vampires but I know he has somewhat of a soft spot for this Karl Franz guy. Would you be so kind to give me some directions for something noob friendly or some cool model of Karl?Thanks in advance, anons. For the couple of days I've been browsing this board, I can tell you guys are by far the most friendly people on the whole site.
>>98919158Some other anon can hopefully correct me if I'm wrong since I've never owned this model, but I think the General on Imperial Gripffin model can still be built as Karl-Franz, even though it's not advertised as such (KF isn't alive yet during TOW's time period). Not what I'd describe as a newbie friendly model though.This is what I'd recommend:https://www.warhammer.com/en-WW/shop/empire-of-man-captain-of-the-empire-2025Plastic character kit with the same vibe and simple enough to not be intimidating.
Total War was a net negative for whfb
>>98919260Total War Warhammer 3 was the net negative. 1 and 2 were decent and true to WHFB.
>>98919498eh vampire coasts were kinda pure OC. High elves also enabled kislev.
>>98919498They are games meant for secondaries.
>>98919513Vampire Coast should have been in 3, with Ogres in 2 in their place. I will stand on that hill until I keel over. >>98919559Do you consider all the video games to be meant for secondaries? What about people who eagerly played Shadow of the Horned Rat, Dark Omen and Mark of Chaos, before excitedly discussing the games with the lads at the gaming club? What about long term veterans of WHFB who would raid and PvP in Age of Reckoning, or fire up Vermintide for some co-op with the gaming buddies?
>>98919575Yeah kinda but Vermintide is good.
>>98919575>>98919583Wait nvm i misread. Yeah if you're actually participating with the main hobby you're fine.
>>98919583Vermintide 1 is a 10/10 game. 2 is... watered down and fun, but lacks the sensation of playing a WFRP campaign. The combat in 2 is also far more spam to win and less precise and weighed down. >>98919586Fair, have yourself a great night Anon. Glad we could agree after the misunderstanding!
>>98919575Vampire coast was kino and perfect for tww2, it was the right place and the right time.
>>98916189Reminder that it was admitted by ex-GW staff that 7th edition 40k and AoS combined nearly bankrupted GW and 8th edition 40k singlehandedly saved the company.
Fuck lads, this is the closest I've gotten in my 20 years of collecting and painting warhammer sporadically to having an actual armyI hope I actually enjoy this game
>>98919657Based, I feel you
