Have you ever stopped to think about the morals of the hobby?I converted Catholicism a while ago and I've been slowly growing less fond of it; particularly after a priest told me that collecting toys wasn't a good thing to do (I had no clue how to confess so I just threw in whatever I thought was necessary to confess).I still love toys and it's one of the few things I don't resent about modernity/industrial society, but when I think that the money I spent on Beyblade could be used on buying food for the poor or just to gift them to children who love toys as much as I do but lack the funds, I can't help but feel guilty.I have a bunch of figures from various lines, and I know that, for example, I wouldn't be doing good by me nor a random kid, if I gifted them one of my import figures since they exist in a weird middle ground between display piece, fidget toy, and action figure. They are meant to be handled by adults or by very well-socialized kids, but you wouldn't bring them to the park to take them on adventures, throw them in the mud, leave on a bench, etc.I could start with my Transformers, but due to various reasons when I was picking up some speed in my purchases, a lot of them are limited releases or imports.I feel a bit at a loss, so I've stopped buying anything in a while. I plan to buy the upcoming Armada Jetfire, but I kind of have no enthusiasm about it anymore. It's just to complete my favorite set.
>>11768821notldr rest
For the record, they praise statues, necklaces, and pieces of wood. They celebrate Christmas too, you know, the holiday where you get toys.
>>11768852>For the record, they praise statues, necklaces, and pieces of wood.Icons, rosaries, and relics aren't exactly playthings.>They celebrate Christmas too, you know, the holiday where you get toys.Receiving toys is more of a bonus than a core feat of Christmas, where we are called to be close to Christ. If I could put that money to good use by giving toys to children who can't afford it, at least within my family.
>>11768886*If I could put that money to good use by giving toys to children who can't afford it, at least within my family, that would be preferable, but I still want toys for myself.I didn't finish the sentence.
>>11768821No.YOLO
>>11768821>I converted CatholicismI'm sorry to hear that. You're being lied to.The entire religion is built on lies and only propagates them to enrich those at the top. They use your guilt as a weapon and ensnare you in a vicious cycle by forcing shame upon you. They use fear and doubt to keep you in line while offering intangible rewards as compensation for compliance. They claim their book is good because it's says to help the poor and needy and less fortunate, but the majority of them actively hurt those very people unless they specifically align with their own personal beliefs. Charity should not come with conditions. But for the majority of the Church, it's either be a believer or suffer for your blasphemy. Even now, the fact that you are feeling guilt over something you should enjoy is their way of twisting the knife in your back. If you truly want to help the less fortunate, it's very easy to do, without ever needing religion. Try buying one toy for charity for every figure you buy yourself. You will end up getting less figures for yourself sure, but you now have that peace of mind that you are helping others. Forcing yourself to suffer because someone has it worse will not help those who have it worse. If you do not find your own inner peace, through whatever means, you will never really be able to offer aid to those in need. No, I do not feel guilt about my habits. This life is short, fleeting and ultimately a cosmic hiccup in the grand scheme of things. There is no second chance, there is no do-over, there is no other side. Our shot at happiness is right now, and I will do my best to enjoy this one moment in time where I am alive. I will find joy in the mundane, happiness inside myself and from those around me and I will in turn try to spread that joy and happiness to others through acts of kindness for kindness's sake. Be good, care about others and give when you can, but always make sure your own needs are met as well.
>>11768903>YOLOThat's exactly why I second guess myself. What if I could do things better?>>11768908I get what you are saying, and you make very good points I agree with, but you have atheist brainrot.
>>11768910Not atheist, realist. Any religion who can look at a new born baby and say "That thing is full of sin, wash it or it'll never be one of us" is pure evil. Even if the christian god was real, I still wouldn't worship something so vile as to condemn the souls of children to a fate worse then death. The fact that you can see my points by ultimately dismiss them because "atheism bad" shows that you're beliefs aren't that firm. Save yourself some suffering, go buy yourself some toys, give some to charity and sleep in on Sunday, you'll feel much better about everything in no time.
>>11768928It's all more complicated than that.And I'm not dismissing all of what you said, just the unnecessary slander against religion and the nihilism, under which I'm not including the fact that it's a miracle that we exist. I don't need them, you don't need them.
How is collecting toys "immoral"? What would be a moral hobby? Drunk driving? Exchanging stds with others? Killing animals? Those are the kinds of hobbies normies have and want you to have I guess
>>11768821>I can't help but feel guiltyThis is Catholicism in a nutshell, you got yourself into this.I suggest you look into different sects of Christianity less focused on shame and repentance for things that you never even did and less on worrying about toys.
>>11768939>How is collecting toys "immoral"?Not gravely immoral but, how do I put it, wasteful. Think throwing away half a plate of perfectly good food after each meal.You aren't actually harming anyone but your finances, but more importantly, that food could be put to better use.>>11768944This isn't like being in a subculture, you know.
>>11768821He told you that because you feel you are collecting in a way that is wrong that's why you brought it up. It's good to patron crafts and arts that you love but doing so beyond your means to afford or store is wrong. The first step to dealing with a problem is admitting it exists. As for the poor...fuck them. This isn't Jesus times anymore. Nowadays people are poor cause they're asshole substance abusers and if you give their kids anything that's just an excuse for them not to feed them that week. I'm not kidding. I grew up in a family that was constantly the target of druggies trying to "get clean and find Jesus" and soon as they had financial security they'd start using again.
>>11768886>Icons, rosaries, and relics aren't exactly playthings.they still praise and care for them like they're important. Idolatry is against the commandments
>>11768938It's only as complicated as you make it. There is no grand secret to life, we're here for a cosmically short time, then we're not. It really don't get more simple then that. I say one should enjoy the time we have while we got it, but you're sitting there feeling guilty about buying toys. One of us is enjoying the short time we're alive, the other is making threads on a toy forum trying to reason away the guilty they're burdened with from an imaginary sky daddy. If you're so concerned about toy buying being "wasteful", then stop buying toys and start spending money on charity. Simple as that, no religion needed. But instead of doing either, you continue to "waste" money on toys and now you're "wasting" time on an internet image board trying to wash being *guilty* about wasting money on toys. But to me, time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time at all. The same could thus be said about toys. It brings me joy, it brings my kid joy, it brings many people around the world joy, as such it is not a waste at all. Could I spend more money to bring others who have less joy as well? Sure, I generally buy toys for kids at Xmas who aren't as fortunate and participate in food drives for those in need. But I can do those AND enjoy toys myself, no guilt needed. I can't save the world, but I can certainly do my best to make it suck a little less. And I don't have to sit in a room full of old people in gilded robes telling me to be ashamed of myself to do so.
Don't donate money to charities, they're mostly scams and your money will go to well-off people. It's more valuable to volunteer time and you can see what's actually going on on the inside.Ask yourself why you find random strangers more worthy of that hypothetical toy than you are. What causes this? Self-hate or glorifying the innocence of kids? You've only mentioned wanting to give to kids, not struggling adults.You work for your money, that makes you worthy of whatever you want to spend it on. Why would your god want you to be a less happy person?
>>11768821Toys are art, and I think art is one of the purest aspects of life. They can also be sold, which is to say shared with others and so are not consumed like food or petrol.There are so many greedy rich psychos in the world anon, you're not the one causing a child to go without. If anything you deserve more.
Religion is a joke, if you truly believed it you wouldn't be listening to these guys and instead would follow the original texts in their original language or the closest thing you couldAll that guy is saying is his view on the matter and ultimately it sounds like bullshit because it's clearly an opinion rather than a cited reasoning Also this guy >>11769105 is right, Charity is mostly a scam because of how much of it goes into people's pockets rather than the people it's meant to help
Catholicism is the most trinket loving religion out there, but is also designed to make you feel shitty and guilty about everything, so you go confess because you’ve been gaslit into feeling bad about everything, then the relief from the pardon from the kiddy fiddling priest gives you dopamine.If you like Jesus and want to follow him, just do as he did. Be kind to others and volunteer your free time, not your money to faceless charities. You can do stuff like take mentally disabled people out for little day trips or volunteer at soup kitchens or homeless charities, which is far closer to following Jesus than getting nagged by a priest. Toys are fine, just use your time well like he did instead of wasting it at church or preaching platitudes.
>>11768821I'm not into fantasy novels
>>11768821>larping to get (you)You know you can just go to /v/ and say the same thing but with videogames to get more (you) for your daily fix
>>11768821Take everything religion with a grain of salt Anon, all of them say that god told them this and that but in the end all you hear and read has been written by the hand of men.>particularly after a priest told me that collecting toys wasn't a good thing to doThat guy sounds like a retard with double standards, why does he spend money on any possessions when he could donate it to charity instead?>but when I think that the money I spent on Beyblade could be used on buying food for the poor or just to gift them to children who love toys as much as I do but lack the funds, I can't help but feel guiltyYou can always donate or help people in need but never do it at the expense of your own happines and wellness, no one can be a martyr in real life...
>>11768821stupidest roleplay I've every seen on this board and that's saying something.
>>11768821>I converted to CatholicismWell, there’s your first problem. You joined the most masochistic branch of modern mainstream Christianity.>a priest told me that collecting toys wasn't a good thingI’m sure he also says that using protection during sex isn’t a good thing and that divorcing from an abusive spouse is bad too. Those priests sure are a wise bunch.>one of the few things I don't resent about modernity/industrial societyI doubt you were raised in complete rural poverty away from civilization and modern amenities, but if that’s the case go innawoods and live off the land all Walden style or become a Buddhist monk instead. You have no idea how much you benefit from industrial society and modernity. Is it perfect? No. But don’t act like it’s mostly all shit except for the toys. Antibiotics, running tap water that isn’t laden with toxins or germs, internal plumbing, HVAC, food with shelf lives measured in months/years rather than hours/days, using a computer to digitally whine on a Sri Lankan basket-weaving forum…. I’m gonna bet you like those parts of industrial civilization too.>I have a bunch of figures from various lines, and I know that, for example, I wouldn't be doing good by me nor a random kid, if I gifted them one of my import figures since they exist in a weird middle ground between display piece, fidget toy, and action figure. They are meant to be handled by adults or by very well-socialized kids, but you wouldn't bring them to the park to take them on adventures, throw them in the mud, leave on a bench, etc. I could start with my Transformers, but due to various reasons when I was picking up some speed in my purchases, a lot of them are limited releases or imports.Then sell your pricy collector toys and use the money to buy clothing and food to anonymously gift to struggling families.Otherwise this is just a pussy excuse for your avarice and materialism being more pressing than your alleged spirituality.
Japanese don't seem to have these conversations and know its a dumb hobby anon, why are you white people like this and need to confess some sort of sin? Is it indulgent for all of you?
>>11768821People seem to have difficulty separating the teachings of Christ from the church that utilizes the former as a cynical means of control over the masses. Your body itself is God's temple. That was what God attempted to impress upon Solomon with his riddle before the smooth brain idiot decided to solve the riddle by summoning and enslaving actual demons to build the first temple. You don't answer to priests or popes or archbishops. If you are doing something wrong God will tell you himself and you will know if he does.
>>11768991>they still praise (them)This is blatantly untrue lmfao
>>11768821Have you considered the majority of funko pop collectors are American and propagate low quality slop as sacred? What you collect is fine just don't be American about it and treat it as No 1
>>11769465then why do they carry them around every time a prayer or lecture happens?
>>11768944Yeah, join a big evangelical megachurch! You don't gotta worry about sin or guilt or anything, just pay the big guy on the screen and all your sins will be forgiven! Unless you miss one payment, then it's off to SuperHell© with you, you apostate!If you believe all others are lies then why not just go to the one that justifies yourself the best?Or just sell me all your toys, it's moral to sell them off to purify them, no?Heck, why not sell them for cheap so that that it's just like donating! That'll earn you some keys to heaven, you good little testament to Nietzsche's warnings about slave morality you!
>>11768821catholics aren't Christians and defying the Bible is built into your weird little cultyou're also just plain stupid. you shouldn't feel guilt about spending money on toys instead of giving to the poor. you should feel guilty about spending money on figures because they are plastic idols and you are worshiping them by spending time, money, and attention on them. you literally have them in a shrine inside your home. a lot of the figures are also based on things of demonic origin from stories that are subversive.
>>11768821>collecting toys wasn't a good thing to do >better be donating to church!!!kek lol lmao
>>11769961catholics aren't ChristiansI’ve heard this statement before and it always confused me. Anyone mind explaining how one of the oldest branches of Christianity isn’t ‘Christian’? Genuinely curious how they don’t count as a Christian faith. Is it just Protestant self-righteousness or is there something I’m not understanding. I was raised Methodist btw but have been agnostic for more than half my life now.
>>11768821Having hobbies is one of the things that makes life worth living for. We can only give a limited amount of damns in our lifetime, so use them wisely.
