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These two are fine but I'd say they're missing the zazz of Twin Mill and Bone ShakerEl Segundo Coupe and GT-Scorcher.just don't have the same Transformers-y mouthfeel
the new hot wheels collabs both look good, if a bit generic. I just wish they'd picked some more interesting cars from HW's extensive lineup
>>11781742>These two are fine but I'd say they're missing the zazz of Twin Mill and Bone ShakerI agree. They look good, but lack the personality of the first two. More like generic bots. Which isn't a bad thing, but maybe not at $34.99 a pop.
it's starting to feel like mattel mandated that all hot wheels cars have to be autobots
>>11781743I hope they get some nice weapons, because they do feel a bit... normal (just saw, double barrel exhaust makes sense, and the spoiler 'sword' is fun, if a bit small). The first one looks similar to Sideswipe without the attitude. The heads also feel a bit samey, goggle like. But these are fun, and probably the best collab yet. I'll probably pass on the Twin Mill repaint, but will get the new ones. Surprised the Twin Mill is using the colors of both these new guys. HW has some iconic exotic looking vehicles with a wide palette of colors, so hopefully we get some of those.
>>11781748Especially when Scorcher could have looked like this
>>11781748Well, yeah. Basically all crossover figures are good guys and the reasons should be obvious. But people are dead set on on Decepticon Hot Wheels figures.Like, I've even seen people unironically clamor for some of the football helmet guys to be Decepticons and it's like come on people, use your heads.
>>11781752That is a nicer color, but there's no reason it wouldn't still be an Autobot.Purple Autobots (and red Decepticons for that matter) have been around for a very, very long time.
>Tell me, Chaos Bringer, if you can: you have destroyed so much — what is it exactly that you have created? Can you name even one thing? I thought not...
>>11781748Every collab bot is an Autobot except for the JP Dinosaurs and the Universal Monsters.
I'm dissapointed that ML Ironhide just looks to be a mostly original design instead of just the original toy with modern articulation like all the previous ML figures. Feels like it really missed the point.
>>11781737>>11781741Neat, what's the asking price for these guys?
>>11781753Am I wrong that Twin Mill had no Autobot insignia anywhere one it? And the fairly Decepticon-coded Bone Shaker only had it on his shifter. Could just not include one.But with HW getting so many figures compared to the usual one, it feels like they could avoid to have some good vs bad, especially with how some vehicles in HW are meant to be the 'bad guys' if a kid wanted to play with them that way.
>>11781753all the collabs have been good guys because, with the exception of the autobots from the JP crossovers, they've all been good guys in whatever IP they originate from. hot wheels doesn't generally have a story so there's no reason for them to be exclusively autobots
And now I wait for Liege.
The Energon Class (scout) figures were all pretty cool. Simple but articulated designs and transformations, clear weapons.The Combat Class (deluxe) figures. Autobots were mostly pretty weak, very simple robots and the combination gimmick just bogged them all down, worst combiners of all time. Most of the Decepticons are neat, just proper figures. The combiner teams (4 energon class limbs and one combat class torso) were neat figures for their time.The Mega Class (Voyager) figures were along similar lines, but it's worth pointing out the Ironhide mold was especially awful.Command Class figures all fucked hard. Scorponok was awesome, the Landmine and Bulkhead figures were great values.Leader Class, Optimus was strictly inferior to the Armada Optimus. Megatron was a big, chunky figure, but had less play value than the Armada figure.Supreme class. Black Unicron fucked hard. Omega Supreme was big.
>>11781777>Am I wrong that Twin Mill had no Autobot insignia anywhereIt fits pretty naturally too
>>11781783Man, Nexus really does look like shit.
>>11781785That does, could have fit one there. His expression is actually a bit of a snarl looking at it head on like that. Maybe he's the 'Decepticon' of the two despite how Boneshaker looks.
>>11781784>The Mega Class (Voyager)I only put it together a few days ago, but they really only made three autobot moldsSomeone gets left out of combining
>>11781741Close enough, welcome back Glyph
>>11781737>>11781740why does this look better than virtually every carbot we've gotten since earthrise ended
>>11781815because they're prioritizing the car mode and the robots are designed from the ground up to accommodate that
>>11781737>>11781740>>11781741>>11781742Just for the hater in the previous threadThese guys look like they transform like micromasters
>>11781836Weirdly he looks like a monkey to me
>>11781839Transmetal 2 Cheetor was weird
>>11781849Nah, that still looks like a cat in some waysThe Tigatron reminds me of one of those black and white bald looking monkeys
I wish I was in the parallel universe where kenner didnt die and we got to see more beast wars. There are so many animals and types of animals that would have been amazing to see. And that's not even mentioning how some could be fuzors/transmetals or even mutants.
>>11781855He's kind of in a bigfoot pose and looks like a yeti I guess
I can't stop thinking about transmetals I feel like I'm going to end up buying third party shit even though I dont normally buy masterpiece stuff.
>>11781867why are even the retail versions of this mold so expensive?
what's an underrated pre-WFC mold I can get for cheap?
>>11781872It's good and everyone wants it.I got Depth Charge for $13 on ebay back when he was new, I feel very lucky today.
>>11781882Skullcruncher
I thought one of them was blue
>>11781904Rumble and Stumble
>>11781736I'm still trying to decide whether I should get that overgear ironhide
>>11781884That's a pretty good choice, but of that lot I'd reccommend Hardhead/Quake
>>11781884Skrullcruncher is meh, ever version of the mold had weak tolerances.
>>11781906>StumbleYou mean, Fumble
>>11781736Very good bake>>11781743I'd slurp up world race carbots so fast
>>11781737>>11781740>>11781741>>11781742>>11781743>>11781950Acceleracers brosWe're so close
>>11781955>Teku and MM bots with team badges instead of autobot/decepticonIt seems like such easy money that I can't imagine the powers that be arent at least talking about it
>>11781950I'm sure I had this hot wheels car in chromed blue and it came with little surfboards, I never knew there was an IRL version.
>>11781836Looks rad; shame he only got a Transmetal 1 toy (that was a repaint of Ravage). I'd like to see them do some more modern TM2s other than just Megs - especially Dinobot 2 and his badass repaint, Rapticon. Dude's still one of my favorite TM2 designs of all times (even if I don't transform him anymore out of fear of flaking or damaging his wrist wires and rubber tail); I'd love to have a modern version of him and the other BM Dinobots to go with T-Wrecks.
>>11781882Highbrow. The most underrated TR mold IMO.
This game's winner are...RED TEAM!
>>11781783What about soundblaster
>>11781882Most TR deluxe are greatTFA had almost no bad toys at allIf you like movie shit RotF and DotM had amazing stuff
What if Goldbug was a gold bug
I wish I was in charge of Botcon repaints
>>11781863do you think kenner was the limiting factor?
>>11782000i can't believe mine's still in such good conditionI only wish his arms peggted in . and that his limbs transformed better. there's been some 3P ones that tried, but nobody can ever get it quite right.I can't imagine a new one would make any good decisions, but I still want it.
>>11782033Holy shit who is this freak
>>11782034nta, but Aaron archer talks a little about the internal politics of Hasbro and how they basically wanted to wash their hands of Kenner simply because they were still considered a separate company from Hasbro despite being bought by them. There was some resentment from Hasbro that Kenner took over the boys lines in the 90's and that Hasbro proper was considered failing the boys lines in the early 90's.When Hasbro closed down Kenner in '98(because they wanted to have the credit for the Star Wars Episode 1 toy), they technically offered employees jobs within Hasbro but they had to move from Ohio to Rhode Island, which most employees, being older with families, decided against, Aaron being young and single was able to make the move. Thats how he got the job running Transformers towards the end of Beast Machines and directed the RiD localization into developong Armada onward. A lot of Hasbro employees like to claim credit for successes, and because ironically because Kenner had so much success and few of them went to Hasbro, it meant that a lot of what Kenner succeeded at was stuff no one at Hasbro could take credit for. It's also probably why they decided to drop lines like Batman or minimize them like JP, since they didn't see them as important as Hasbro original lines. Aaron talks about suggesting BW revivals and no one at Hasbro being on board because they just rolled their eyes and thought it was a weird outlier they didn't want much focus on.
>>11782042a brown bionicle with toa tahu's mask obviously
>>11782031This is a Dairycon style redeco. Cheeky and oddly fitting
>>11782033Even though I think Botcon redecoes that are just non-G1 molds made into G1 molds are boring(or just preexisting characters in general, I liked the brief era of Botcon exclusives being new additions), this is still kinda neat.
>>11782042Beast Machine Thrust. The first toy vehicons looked nothing like the show.
>>11782046oh how sad.oh well, we've never been allowed to have good things. sometimes I wish I'd known how bad things always were, because the SHOCK of going from the amazing everything's-getting-better 90s and early 2000s to THIS.. the hurt adds up to a higher number than any of the pleasure I got out of it. But that's probably just my old tired bones talking. I never even play with em anymore because getting em off the shelf always dislodges 6 others, and my stupid old hands and eyes can't do as much with em as I want.
>>11782042A digibash of Beat Machines Thrust. Like Tankor and Jetstorm, his model was "tweaked" for the show; the Motorcycle Drone toy released later was much more show-accurate.
Rest in peace Transtech.
>>11782053He's hideous, I want one
>>11782058I loved this ugly fucker as a kid. He has so much weird small details that made my autistic kid self fixate on it like psudo pneumatics and fake pneumatics, chrome, the third mode and movable jaws and fingers.
>>11782058Need more freaks on shelvesQuintus and Amalgamous are filling the brief but there's always room for more
>>11782078I'd be surprised if you didn't know him, but as far as freaks go this guy is pretty hard to beat. I love his whip arms and both of his weird robot modes
>>11782042>>11782053Beast Machines was such a weird series in terms of toy development. According to a Hasbro employee, Takara gave up on the line because Hasbro had two different designers for the Beast and Robot modes and basically forced the engineers to figure out ways to get between the two
>>11782081People will call this a triple changer
>>11782089>two different designers for the Beast and Robot modes and basically forced the engineers to figure out ways to get between the two>fired the people who wrote beast wars for some reason to write the show, resulting in complete assWhat the fuck were they thinking
>>11782081I love the spider-y motifs in Rampage's designStuff like the mouth parts and the skittery legs
>>11782092It's so fucked up part of me thinks it was internal cooperate sabotage. But maybe they were just insane.
>>11782091Will they, though? He's a clear example of a "third mode" bot, like the BM Thrust in the thread or, you know, Perceptor, or whatever. I think a triple changer is one bot mode, two vehicles.
>>11782099I hope I'm not going to ruin this thread by bringing up L*GO but that mode really reminds me of the Vahki from Bionicle and I've always fucked with that quadruped "insectlike" body plan
>>11781737>>11781740>>11781741>>11781742They look generic but in a classic Diaclone car robo kinda way that ends up making them very appealing to me. Helps that the nature of the collab necessitates that they have really good altmodes. I hope that the HW collab continues, maybe even make it a full line?I do wish they went with >>11781752 for Scorcher's color scheme though, as-is he looks a little too much like Sideswipe, I could see the two getting confused all the time
>>11782119>They look generic but in a classic Diaclone car robo kinda wayYeah they weirdly looks more "like transformers" than a lot of actual characters
>>11782092>>11782100Kenner was closed down around 98 so a bunch of the employees on the US side from BW were just gone. Hasbro seemed to experiment with hiring more external concept artists like Draxhall jump
>>11782092Second one is good though, I can't imagine Beast Machines with Beast Wars retarded Loony Tunes humor.
>>11782078>Need more freaks on shelvesI am once again asking for demolishor but BIGGER
>>11782092>fired the people who wrote beast wars for some reason to write the show, resulting in complete assThat wasn't Hasbro. That was the producer of Beast Wars. Firing people to get more compliant writers that would implement his brand of dark and gritty style is a hallmark of his creative direction.
Just learned about this guy today. Are there any other beast minicons I should know about?
>>11782148There were a number of dinosaur minicons of course.
>>11782148HOLY FUCK I WANT THAT oh... just saw how much people are asking for it...
>>11781937Tumble
>>11782099Not spider - crab, inspired by a certain other Rampage, hence the claws with treads coming out of them.
>>11782153Maybe you can get one of the repaints. I got him pretty cheap a few years ago.
Now I finally saw someone try to fit Nexus Prime onto the Bruticus frame... It won't work. This just means Shattered Glass Heatwave will be a Hot Spot pretool.
>>11782179>HeatwaveThere is not going to be a Heatwave.
>>11782148>>11782153>>11782178I love this mold - I've got 4 out of the 5 uses for it. From left to right: Universe Brimstone, Classics Nightscream, AOE Sling, and the Europe-exclusive "Transformers Fizzy Candy" version of Brimstone that I use as TransTech Miss Q. The only version I don't have, Dragoyell, is sadly a Grail made of Unobtainium...
>>11782192>>11782179They already gave you a Heatwave you ungrateful bastards
>>11782148>Are there any other beast minicons I should know about?The Predator Attack Team was the only Classics toys I had whenever the line was originally released, me and my brother shared these three little guys and they were some of my most played Transformers as a youngster.
>>11782120yeah, they look like remakes of obscure late G1 guys who never existed, like the Axelerators or whatever, I really like it. I still need to get Boneshaker...>>11782199Man Bulkhead's altmode really relied on that big shield to look convincing huh
>>11782202That wolf and tiger both look awesomeProbably like $80 now though right..............
>>11782058that's actually kinda cool. Fix his neck placement (the windshield is in the way, it should fold back over his shoulders I think) and he'd be perfect.>>11782071everything is autism. okay whatever. yes, I miss being a kid and fixating on lil details like that. We could just be enamored for what felt like hours..
>>11782092"we know what works, now let's try something different. it's not OUR money. unless it succeeds, then we will take total credit."
>>11782208NTA but everyone in this thread is probably autistic to a degree, fixations like this don't really happen out of nowhere for 99.9999% of people
>>11782147but dark and gritty style would have improved beast wars tremendously. Why were the writers resisting it? Hell, they wanted to do a really cool dark episode where they reinsert dinobot's memories into his clone, and just didn't have time. they always wanted to do fucked up shit.
>>11781783God, I really don't like Optimus being one of the Thirteen. IF I felt like making a display with all of them (because as it stands, I only have Vector and The Fallen), I'd probably want to get the Kingdom Ark and pretend it's The Last Autobot
>>11782148i want every version of this guy so fucking badlybut not badly enough to pay what it costs.
>>11782202the giger confuses me. the beast legs visible in robot mode are clearly not the beast legs on the beast mode.. they differ in size, shape, and jointing.
>>11782210i argue that they do. this is just one of those things like 'wanting to be naked' that everyone pretends is rare but in reality is everyone, until they have feeling-otherwise beaten into them.except I think the fixating imagination thing just wears off when you're not a kid anymore because your brain isn't as spongy anymore.
>>11782212I'm not a fan of calling Optimus one of the 13 eitherNot sure why they're abridging their own fiction where he's supposed to be the reincarnation of Thirteen
>>11782214tiger*
>>11782212the Thirteen is a dumb enough conceptmaking one of them optimus makes it even dumber
>>11782212It's just a Doctor Who reference like all the 13 lore
>>11782216Maybe a lack of identity for the original self. Must be easier to just copy Star Convoy than come up with a new design.
>>11782205They are awesome. They don't seem to go for too much these days.>>11782214The robo-mode legs are the beast's front legs facing backwards, with extender bits folded out from inside them.
>>11781783I kinda like the smaller wings better after having it like this for five months.
>>11782227>extender bits folded outOH, okay, I see it now. thank youthe rear legs still don't look like that ball joint exists on the beast mode though
>>11782222This is the dumbest shit i've read in a long time
>>11782239You would have to know the novels like Lungbarrow sadly, but it is
>>11782239The "Doctor Who inspired the 13" meme is just that, a meme. Here's what the accusation is based on. In some shitty novel that's for whatever reason important to adult Doctor Who fans because it's from the DARK GRITTY Doctor Who novels adult fans love, the Doctor is revealed to be one of the original TIME LORDS that started everything, one of the founding most important members. He goes into a loom (because they thought this wasn't retarded) to be reborn into a normal guy who is destined for great things. Also there's 13 times the Doctor can regenerate until he needed to do it more. That's it.That's all the accusation is.
>>11782242that's actually not a supplies at all.
>>11782249funny, around the time I stopped watching, they had just gotten done making part of that canon and, in so doing, erasing the other partnever before has there been a show that more thoroughly and evenly combined "This had so much promise and they ruined it" and "this was fucking garbage from the start, we were just willing to tolerate more"
>>11782251If the 13 Primes and OP being one of them was based on these Doctor Who novels it was a lot more easier to get away with back when the novels were just something only Doctor Who super nerds gave a shit about before they tried making it part of the TV canon, yeah
>>11782235I have the Apexus version of the mold - here he is in mid-transformation, to give you an idea of how it works. His front legs become his robot legs; only one of his rear legs has the balljoint on it, and it's his left one - the right one is static and has his Powerlinx port on it (the picture in >>11782202 has his alt mode mirrored for some reason).
>>11782215I don't really get the wanting to be naked analogy honestlyDon't get me wrong I am not saying everyone or even close to everyone is on the spectrum. But if you look at the crossover of people who post on enthusiast imageboards and people who are autistic that's probably close to 100%.
>Cybertron, well...it's been a long time!>>11782212I'm not really big on the Thirteen in general. The toys are cool and the concept of there being thirteen original Transformers is fine, but I think all of them also being the first Primes is a space bridge too far. I'd find it a lot to easier to parse if Prima was still the first Matrix bearer, but the title of 'Prime' was something created to honor him. A way for everyone who carried it after him to pay respects to their forebearer.Optimus being one of the Thirteen is a different set of problems. I was against the concept of the Thirteen when I initially heard about it because I thought it made him less special. Basically making him the in universe equivalent of Jesus, to the point that he's described as having a spark most like and in tune with Primus, is actually taking it way too far in the opposite direction. This is probably the general sentiment, but I prefer Optimus starting out as an ordinary dude who is forged into something extraordinary by the whims of fate.
>>11782257Also, he's transformed wrong in that pic - here's what the proper robot mode should look like.
>>11782249Those novels are still better than what the show is now, holy fuck.
>>11782257ohhhhh mirroring. Okay, the puzzle has been solved now.thanks you for just explaining instead of giving me the business. When I look at pictures of transformers I don't have, my brain wants to know how they work, and if I can tell by looking.>>11782258well I'm saying those things you're talking about are normal. There's a pretty big difference between "as a kid I could just stare at all the details and colors on something and be enthralled for ages" and "i commission the same exact porn drawing of a train fucking another train, dozens of times, but changing up which train is which"one is a normal way brains grow and learn, the other's a mode you clearly got stuck in due to brain damage.
>>11782262that makes much more sense and looks much better.i want him now.
>>11782261You should take a photo of this backlit and merge the fire from that with this one
>>11782199ik you're joking but man this mold sucks even for the character. Never been so disappointed going from Chase to this.
>>11782262Wow, twenty-whatever years later and now I see how this guy's supposed to be properly transformed. I always did his left arm like the stock photos on the packaging.
>>11782179>Shattered Glass HeatwaveI hope this actually happens, fully replace AOTP Nexus, fuck him
>>11782234Which kits are those?
>>11782286DNA + Toyhax
>>11782288Thanks, toyhax one looks solid.
>>11782293I love all the Toyhax for the PrimesSome people think they're gaudy though so I know they're not for everyone. But because of that Star Convoy only having a G1 inspired sticker set instead of one that matches the rest of the Primes will always make me autistic
>>11782277To be fair the majority of the Classics minicons are the definition of "first draft". So many incomplete looking motherfuckers.
Missing Link Ironhide
Nemesis Star Convoy, Rodimus replaced by Energon Shockblast
>>11782302Normally i'm a sucker for nemesis repaints but it honestly kinda sucks in this mold
>>11782301>>11781765You dumb bitch
>>11782301this bodes well if they're willing to let people have their cake and eat it too. I want this used for some Beast guys at some point. Give me the option of it being like the original, or improved.>>11782303the shade of teal is completely off, and it shouldn't be TOUCHING the red like that. was there ever a Nemesis Star Convoy before? I have to think the robot mode titty windows would ahve been better off in gray or whatever.
>core Energon Megatron/Galvatron in mainline>core Shockblast in legendsWe could have had a core Energon line if they hadn't killed Core
>>11782302Scary
>>11782302>ShockblastWhat's funny is that this is very clearly that Core Shockwave from a while back. I'm still baffled as to why they made a new mold for that Hot Rod instead of using his Core toy as well.
>>11782302This gives me Psycho Gundam vibes, I love it
>>11782307>was there ever a Nemesis Star Convoy before?Lmao no but its not like this has ever stopped takara before, nemesis prime is a very popular deco that i am super surprised there's no more presence in cartoons and the like
>>11782313>I'm still baffled as to why they made a new mold for that Hot Rod instead of using his Core toy as well.I hope you haven't been baffled for awhile because it was to make it look more like the original toy
>>11782302why shockblast and not rodimus unicronus or something?
>>11782315sure I'm just sayingif you gave me access and you were like "hey, nemesis prime is cool"i'm like "Yeah""We have this Star Convoy, we should make a nemesis version"I'd be like "Oh awesome. Okay let's look at the original. Hmm, his vehicle mode had red windows, but his robot mode had like smoked ones with heavy reflections, or something, depending on who colored it"yknow?
>>11782119>>11781815>>11781750
>>11782319The New Legends figures have been connected to their ongoing End of G1 Universe fiction. First release Green Lio Convoy connected to him using that form again to defeat the Prime Leaders, with that story showing the Stunticons leaving Cybertron on the Nemesis. Second release G2 Stunticons connect to them traveling to the Galaxy Force universe and getting G2 decos from Forestonite exposure. The end of that comic had the Nemesis manifest Nemesis Prime (connecting to Missing Link Nemesis Prime claiming to be an incarnation of the Nemesis' AI) with a cloaked Superlink Shockwave planning to destroy the universe with an Energon sun.
>>11782319>>11782324
>>11782322decepticon Evil Twin PLEASE
>>11782031Man, there should be a Starship Troopers crossover with a bug Decepticon, or an Autobot dropship. That'd be sick.
>>11782301Not really liking this one. It way different than the original toy. He doesn't even have a sled
>>11782329It's attached to its back
>>11782329
>>11782301If I'm reading right, the g1 mode is called "respect mode"
>>11782330>It's, not himBecause the Diaclone Ironhide was a machine not a character, I get it, nice autism
>>11782302>SOUNDWAVEWait, what?
>>11782335
>>11782331You know what sucks? His weapons platform mode is gone. I know the G1 Respect mode, but it's a shame you can't take off his backpack that comes with his head to make it work.
>>11782346>it's a shame you can't take off his backpackDoes it say that
>>11782325>purple windowssee this is a good compromise for a body whose chest isn't fake windshields>>11782329oh you're right, it is kinda changed more than the others, isn't it
>>11782347i think he's saying if the head is part of the backpack, then said backpack cannot become the sled without taking the head with itunless it's accursed (but pretty era-appropriate) partsforming
>>11782264Lmao non I literally have autism (diagnosed) and would stare at:>The pattern on carpets and cross my eyes to make it like a 2d puzzle>The ocean>The LED lights inside my tv screen>The sun with binoculars >Patterns in concrete >Grocery store barcode Scanners to look at lasers >The lights on the back of my eyelids >Two mirrors together >And the details of toys Chrome metallic vacuum mettalized paint is the most beautiful thing in this world by the way. Except the sun and lasers I'd do that for hours. Like someone who was condtantly tripping balls. Even if this was somehow a kid things it's official and you have no idea what power level of autism you are dealing with.Unfortunately I am not autistic enough to be skilled at painting or have a high paying stem job so I could do all this shit in real life.
>>11782351The sled now becomes a transformer called Sledhead.
>>11782302I love this but I have a lot of nitpicks but since it's going to be so expensive I'll post them anyways. >Agree that the red titties should have looked more like RiD scourge but it doesnt look bad.>Shockwave with green is kind of ugly. Galactic Man would have been better.>pretending a sword is a aser blast is lazy and stupid >No micromaster trailers apparently?I fucking love it besides that though. Does the plastic quality actually feel good in hand on the regular Star Convoy? I dont actually own that version but I'm seriously considering this.
>>11782347The picture doesn't show it.besides that, the rest of the body is different. The legs, the arms. the whole thing is changed.
>>11782365>No micromaster trailers
>>11782365Trailer is there, it's stored on the leg in one pic with the turret on it.
>>11782315>that i am super surprised there's no more presence in cartoons and the likeMy favourite part about RiD Scourge was that he wasnt just an evil repaint of the Prime from his serious. He was from a totally different line so it makes him feel a lot more unique. I always thought if they had a cartoon with a new Scourge they should do that. And it would be funny if it was a RiD Prime in Scourge's colourscheme for irony.
>>11782365>>Shockwave with green is kind of ugly. Galactic Man would have been better.Technically it's Energon Shockblast
>>11782370>My favourite part about RiD Scourge was that he wasnt just an evil repaint of the Prime from his serious. He was from a totally different line so it makes him feel a lot more unique.True But in fairness a Black Fire Convoy would be pretty cool too
>>11782365>Shockwave with green is kind of ugly.You take that back right now
>>11782379There actually was one but it was extremely rare. Maybe only 10 or so made in the world or something.
>>11782382this honestly looks so much better I'm hoe
>>11782384
>>11782384The color scheme made me think this was Magnaboss for a second
>>11782266An attempt was made.>>11782234Yours honestly looks great. I've been tempted by that upgrade kit a few times, but I usually only reserve those for a mold I feel is really wanting or already like and want to make even better. Vector is just kind of middle of the road to me, so I've chosen to leave him as is for now. Still, it would be nice to have two swords for the guy with a clock based motif
>>11782386Is it not Magnaboss?
This is a long shot. Does anybody know in which of Thew's Transformers review he says something is "a bit Naked Lunch, isn't it?"? I just watched that movie and want to finally get the reference. I think it was one of the older reviews.
>>11782387Hell yes, cool stuff anonI wanna get into photos and editing my stuff but I don't even have a backdrop yet
>>11782388It is, I shouldn’t have doubted myself
>>11782382Maybe it's just photo quality but that looks way too muddy to me
>>11782360okay well you may also have a disorder, but keep in mind A) doctors are retards and B) those are all totally normal. a kid not doing that has mental probs.I remember sitting and watching the lights and bubbles in fish tanks, and also I had this bright red toy phone with bright yellow and royal blue letters on it, and if I stared, the letters clearly shimmered and vibrated, because of light frequency interference shit or whatever.
>>11782379True, that was neat. though I was confused about how he was a clone of Fire Convoy, or based on a scan of him or whatever. That's usually some multiverse bullshit.>>11782382This gives me total sentai vibes.>>11782384>>11782385>>11782386>>11782388>>11782391wait, is it just... are they like the cybertronian forms of the combiners?>>11782387nice subtle glow
>>11782393reckon the issue is that whatever lighting it was in has been replaced with blank white via either compositing or hand-erasing. this is clearly in a darker area, not surrounded by bright white.
Picked up the Studio Series Leader Snarl today. That's the stego.Not a huge fan of the beast mode, the g1 Dinobots all have very retro alt modes and he's no different. Robot mode is pretty good though, he's chuffty and quite posable. Great body design on these studio series guys.
>>11782395Basically Scourge and the other Commandos/Combatrons were Beast Era protoforms that were reprogrammed by Gigatron and forced to scan military vehicles. Fire managed to be scanned alongside the tanker truck he was trying to save, making Scourge a hodgepodge of both. That’s why I like to headcanon that if Scourge wasn’t corrupted, he would look identical to the original Laser Prime
>>11782345Incredible
>>11782405but he looks like a paletteswap of laser prime, so what part did he get from Fire?
>>11782411He looks like Optimus because he scanned Fire
I really wish there was a fallen upgrade kit that gave him several more fire effects instead of just bigger effects
>>11782389It had to have been a freaky bug transformer from Beast Wars. Maybe even Galvatron from Beast Wars II because it has freaky leg claw things or something.
>>11782413okay but do you get what i'm saying?there's nothing within Fire Convoy that should produce Laser Prime, in-universe. It only makes sense to the audience, from a meta-perspective.
>>11782389The only thing you need to know about Naked Lunch is that there are two things wrong with that title
>>11782387>I've been tempted by that upgrade kit a few times, but I usually only reserve those for a mold I feel is really wanting or already like and want to make even better.It improves everything about the figure except the wings. You'll get better poses with the smaller wings strangely unless you just want him standing there
>>11782419He also scanned a truck. And Kelly.
>>11782405But he does look identical to Laser Prime? Scourge is literally a repaint of him. If you were meant to say that if Scourge wasn't corrupted then he would look identical to Fire Convoy then that would make sense.
>>11782419>there's nothing within Fire Convoy that should produce Laser Prime, in-universe.He scanned a truck and Optimus at the same time, so he turns into a truck robot that looks like OptimusI was able to follow the logic at six, you should get it now
>>11782422yes, and he got his form from the truckso what did he get from Fire Convoy? If you're suggesting that SANS Fire, he would have ended up as Laser Prime, then that, mathematically, suggests you believe Fire somehow contributed the black and teal color palette.>>11782424my dude, I got it when it happened, I was a few days away from turning 16. Point is it's only an out-of-universe reason.
>>11782426>Point is it's only an out-of-universe reason.What do you mean?? I just gave you the in-universe reason
>>11782261>I was against the concept of the Thirteen when I initially heard about it because I thought it made him less specialHis literal dying words were him saying that he wasn't special.
>>11782427I'm starting to think you're six nowOptimus the idea makes sense here. Optimus the person does not. For a bunch of reasons. I know Japanese canon gets weird, but even if they're directly related people, if you scanned like, say, Optimus Primal in gorilla mode, you would not somehow end up with his cybertronian vehicle mode. Unless you think he just carries that inside him (I mean maybe? the transmetals had to come from something). But I don't understand how Fire Convoy, in any way, 'contains' Laser Optimus Prime. LOP is not an INGREDIENT in FC that could be scanned.and in this case, there's nothing about Fire Convoy that contributes at all to Scourge, he's clearly just Laser Prime in black. Fire did not contribute the altmode (that was sitting right there) nor the color scheme, nor any of his 'optimus-ness' because that's not a thing.
>>11782431>>11782431>any of his 'optimus-ness' because that's not a thing.That is the thing though, he just gained the Optimus phenotype.Who knows what a hypothetical truck-only scan would look like, headcanon whatever you wantBut he scanned an Optimus so he looks like an Optimus. It's that simple.
>>11782390>>11782395Thanks. I'm admittedly using AI for these, but it's given me some fun ideas for stuff to try in the future. And I wish I could recommend the diorama I'm using as a background, but it's kind of a flimsy piece of shit that was way harder than it should have been to put together.
while we're on the subject of clones, how the fuck did Dinobot's clone make sense? It seemed to be intelligent and autonomous, but obviously lacked a spark. Megatron seemingly only had access to the organic components, as he wasn't able to make a duped robot mode, so.. did he just.. program an organic utahraptor with a full semblance of sentience? And did he do so by microengineering its BRAIN, or is there a small machine inside there? Like BW is part of G1 so I guess you can just MAKE new Cybertrons, like the Dinobots, appropriately enough, but.. that always felt weiiiird to me. and Dinobot ate him with apparently nothing left, no robo brain or whatever.
>>11782431anon do you genuinely have a learning disabilityit literally ain't that deep:scanned optimus: looks like optimus+scanned truck: turns into truck+scanned human: he gets to, like, control Fort Max like other humans, or something, it's been years since i watched itthat's it. that's all there is. you are looking for deeper connections and explaination when there aren't any, by design or necessity.
>>11782432There's no logic to the concept of an optimus phenotype, i'm sorry.The only even slight logic I can think to that is that Cheetor and Tigatron ended up so similar, and Blackarachnia and Tarantulas, suggesting that MAYBE the scan of a similar altmode triggered a similar robot phenotype. But much more likely it's coincidence, and their previous lives before they lost their memories in the damaged/compromised stasis pods already looked like that, give or take. Just with like, a sports car hood for a chest, and axles crossed over the back instead of cat arms.
>>11782434oh okay, I was wondering how you lined it up so perfectly. I thought Anon had asked you to try one photo in the weird lighting, one without, then splice the fire of one into the other.
>>11782435He's a drone. Intelligent, but sparkless drones drones aren't a new concept in Transformers. He has SOME machinery in him, since he was able to radio Megatron. Dinobot could have simply eaten around and disposed of any metal parts.>with apparently nothing leftYou actually see his skin hanging in Dinobot's quarters later on.
>>11782436but it doesn't look like optimus. it looks like a guy we know as optimus, but they don't. he's a different guy. and even if he's the same guy, that's the same guy at least 'one body ago', a body that has nothing in common with his current one.the ONLY way what you're saying makes sense is if you mean his head. His head is an optimus-looking head. except it's still not, it doesn't look much like fire convoy's head. Maybe a little.
Fuck blacks we need more Toxitron repaints.
>>11782437>and their previous lives before they lost their memoriesThe stasis pod occupants, with the exception of Rampage, were all newborns. They didn't have "previous lives".
>>11782440Oh yeah good point, the skinI guess offscreen he salvaged the parts and just gave them to Rhinox like "here, you can fix the radio or whatever" Prolly dramatically smashed the robo brain after stripping all the flesh off of its head.
>>11782444nnno, anon. Protoforms are infants in the Animated universe. in BW/G1, they're the crew of the Axalon. They've gone into stasis for the long trip.Cheetor is a kid. The pod guys are adults, but each and every one had their memories wiped due to either a damaged pod or Tarantulas's meddling with their programming.
>>11782441>but it doesn't look like optimus.Okay, now you're just obviously trolling at this point. I'm done with you.
>>11782443Personally I wouldn't mind returning to Magnus as the default repaint
>>11782447Literally false.
>>11782441Idk looks close enough to me
>>11782449I wish the last Magnus like this we got wasnt in a stupid four pack I couldnt get easily here and I think I missed out on him.
Toxitron is fugly do another Nightwatch
>>11782449>>11782451Speaking if Magnus repaints I regret so much not getting this guy on mandarake a few years back. He's one of my favourite Magnus repaints (and my most nostalgic Prime toy.) He actually gets to keep the Matrix, and the half armour colors half white looks sick.
>>11782456Oops
>>11782448it doesn't look like THIS optimus, you mookit looks like an optimus YOU know, from a previous toyline.>>11782450Anon why would you take dozens and dozens of newborns to a planet to do exploration, with only two adults and one subadult commanding them?they all have rank and shit. They're explicitly called the crew.
>>11782302Damn, HasTak really have forgotten how to mix metallic paint.
>>11782447buddy don't tell me you watched all of beast wars under your misinterpretation
>>11782451Arright yeah, the head and maybe if you squint, the chest. you could say he's influenced slightly, but it is a stretch. The vast majority of his robot mode comes from apparently nowhere.>>11782457that color scheme realllly works with this mold.
>>11782458Oh jesus, you're the same anon? Being stupid about two different things?
>>11782461nobody even considered that protoforms were babies until they were babies in Animated.they specifically talk about how you can go into protoform stasis, and they all have existing programming and identities. They have no trouble sprouting a name. They're occasionally METAPHORICALLY referred to as having been 'born' on earth, but that's the extent of it. All of the fiction, the base show, the extended shit, all of it is very clear on who these people are.
>>11782451NTA, but I discovered RiD/Car Robots because the clip of that scene was on a VHS I had taped as a kid or that someone taped for me because I had no recollection of it.From what I recall of that scene alone, the pod scans Fire Convoy, the truck, and Gigatron. When born, Black Convoy has a Prime-style face and an oil tanker truck alt mode. He quickly shows leadership potential like any other Prime and has Decepticon markings since he is a vehicle compared to the Destronger beast forms. I don't think it's too much of a stretch that he looks like a black Laser Optimus Prime given the mixing materials.
>>11782450>>11782461>>11782463No no no, they are the Axalon crewDo you have any rebuttal beyond "nuh-uh"?
>>11782464>nobody even considered that protoforms were babies until they were babies in Animated.Anon, literally EVERYONE thought that during Beast Wars's airing. Because that's what it was. That's what was presented in the show, and that's what the writer's intentions were. It wasn't until the BotCon comics in 2006 that the idea of them being former active individuals was used. And btw, extended shit doing extended shit things doesn't make it canon to the show.Animated has the protoforms be babies because it was copying the idea from Beast Wars.
>>11782468thank you. well, except the blanks, obviously. Those were spare bodies in case someone gets damaged on their mission, since they were planning to essentially be stuck there until Rattletrap (or whatever he was calling himself at the time) swung by to pick them up in such-and-such megacycles.The whole story makes so damn much sense it's amazing how little was planned. Of course they'd put the crew into stasis so they could take a smaller vessel, nobody would think the Axalon is carrying anything important, or such a large crew, so it wouldn't call attention to X. then they could just dispose of him, do some science, and go home.
>>11782469https://youtu.be/EJ1Rgx_tunAJust give yourself a refresher, please
>>11782469But that's wrong. And even if it was right, it just means more people were as wrong as you.BotCon comics would not have made up a new idea, they would have clung as hard to the original intended idea as possible. Everyone with any logic in their heads understood that the crew were adults. That's why they all had to be damaged or reprogrammed, not a single one just woke up normally. Why else would they do that?for chrissake, they consistently refer to blackarachnia as 'having been a maximal before, and can be one again.' Yes, once, they say 'maximal protoform' but the rest of the time it's in the past tense, a former life.
>>11782472There's nothing there that contradicts what I said. If you think there is, you're going to have to explain your thought process.
>>11782472>ro-man the robot monsterI like you for reasons other than you agreeing with me, friend anon.also isnt it weird that no version of Primal beyond MP has ever given him his show-accurate gray fur? Takara's version of the Kingdom mold fixed the exposed gorilla skin, but that's it.
>>11782463Theres an anon here who says the stupidest shit and has the exact same grammar and lack of punctuation in every post. Its really easy to tell who he is. The scary thing is right now it looks like he's samefagging.
>>11782473>BotCon comics would not have made up a new ideaI don't even need to read the rest of your post
>>11782474they're the freakin' crew, dude.why would you take a crew of essentially feti on a mission? What, just wake up and put you to work? That's a hell of a way to start a life. They didn't ask for this job. If you could just MAKE new transformers who are instantly active and capable, they wouldn't NEED Rattrap to ferry them. They would have just popped a protoform and bam, this one's an expert pilot.No, in BW it's clear that they grow up, they grow older over time, and they even have relatives.
Baby fuck its alright
>>11782475I broke my Primal and did my best to make lemonade out of lemons
>>11782476hey my grammar is flawless. literally a proofreader. i'm just too tired for punctuation.>>11782477Why do you think it's so easy for me to have invented the idea back when I watched the show, in my head, but think Botcon also made it up? Or do you think they were basing it on fan misconception
>>11782480oh snap (pardon the pun), which head broke? or was it the entire assembly? Isn't that on a pretty thick pin?
>>11782436I think they briefly implied his personality was also influenced by Kelly, like how he's quick to lose his cool.
>>11782477No dont you remember how in Beast Wars it was well established that you can make guns out of digital red bullshit and even a full ass cheetah medic
>>11782480Still so weird to me that they gave this mold human feet, and let them hinge downward for stability but not upward to get them out of the way (let alone swivel around like in the original toy, to be show-accurate.)
>>11782484Wait did they seriously?I never read those. I was told the BW comics were basically just them saying "After the Beast Wars, there were more Beast Wars, featuring all the toy-only characters, who were the remaining protoforms left behind"
>>11782482I really did a number on itThough it's only one screw holding it togetherBut it's fine, the whole thing just plugs back together and is perfectly workableBut what am I gonna do? Have access to a headless gorilla and *not* make a ro-man out of it?
>>11782488Ohhh I gotcha. So life gave you reversible lemons, and you decided to make some lemnad first. JawesomeReminds me of when my Earthworm Jim figure fell, broke (Playmates engineering at its finest), and the head-launching spring flew out somewhere, but the torso went back together fine, so now I could just remove the head at will, and somehow it was even more fun now.
>>11782439I'm pretty sure that is what he asked me to do. The problem is that I'm retarded and have no actual photo editing skills. So, like many unskilled retards before me, I just went to ChatGPT, plugged in two of the same shot with different lighting and got those as the end result. I'm actually pretty impressed with how some of these came out, though you do have to yell at it sometimes when it starts trying to insert poses from previous images and stuff like that.
>>11782488>what am I gonna do?Obviously get some shorts and a wee clock, and make Time Ape.
>>11782490I guess it shouldn't be that weird that the data regurgitator is good at copying when you actually want it to. I need to start using that shit more but I don't remotely know how.
>>11782486Those are different comics.The BotCon comics were as follows (and not always in the same continuity):- Hey did you know there were these convention characters also there this whole time (just go with it)- oh shit there's some Unicron/time travel/proto-Thirteen stuff happening- after BW, Tarantulas gets reborn and has Vok powers, so the Vok revive Tigatron and Airazor and make a new guy out of the control suit Quickstrike used on Primal- after/during BM, there were a bunch of toy guys also running around (just go with it) (this is where the digital weapons guy is)- OMG UNIVERSE (2003) WAR- hey what happened right before BW- hey what happened right before BW, again (but, like really badly written)The "remaining pods had all the toy-only characters" comics were normal retail comics by IDW, and took place during BW, but slightly out of time-phase so they didn't affect the show.IDW much later put out a different BW comic series, which was a retelling of the show with some new characters and other differences thrown in.
>>11782493My favourite was when they killed off Daniel and Arcee became a hermit and learned Kung Fu and also a spider.
>>11782493and speaking of that later IDW series...
>>11782499
>>11782499Izzat supposed to be Filch?
>>11782444Dude. The Axalon's mission was to transport a team of scientists and colonists to various planets to test for habitability and resources. Only the bare minimum crew required to pilot the ship were kept online; everyone else went into the stasis pods. This is how you have characters like Grimlock whose toy bio explicitly states he's the G1 guy.Botanica relays a similar story when she's introduced - she was on a similar mission as the Axalon, and she was the sole crew member who hadn't gone into a stasis pod, which is why she was the only survivor - her organic plant mode protected her from Megatron's virus, while her crewmates, who had reverted to Protoforms, had no such shielding from it.How have you gone this long under the misconception that the Protoforms were newborns when the toy bios and the show itself literally told you otherwise?
>>11782501No that's... shoot what was her name? Skald?
>>11782501Skold, a new Predacon character based on Snapper. The Maximals' new character is Nyx, based on bat Primal.
>>11782502>This is how you have characters like Grimlock whose toy bio explicitly states he's the G1 guy.Grimlock wasn't in the show. Stasis pods weren't even a thing in the toy bios.
>>11782441>>11782458Because he scanned Fire Convoy AND Gigatron and a whole other vehicle. He’s not just an Evil Convoy but conceptually closer to Gilthor than most Black Convoys/Nemesis Primes, which is why he’s one of the best and most unique versions of the concept. Him being a repurposed Optimus is a happy accident because that Optimus looks so armed and dangerous that he pulls off the idea of not just being a black Optimus but a corrupted one closer to the Decepticons.Universe Nemesis Prime, the Big Convoy redeco, is the only one to come close to managing the same feeling
>>11782502The toy bios take place in current day Earth and have Tarantulas as a stupid ninja and Depth Charge as a reluctant combatant, my guy.
>>11782502>>11782444The show, which is the only canon source, makes it clear there's both kinds among the Axalon's cargo. Silverbolt, for example, has only foggy memories of his prior life whereas Airazor and Tigatron are newborns.
>>11782301I probably won't buy this but this looks cool as fuck. Like, best G1 Ironhide figure of them all levels of good.
>>11782508>Silverbolt, for example, has only foggy memories of his prior lifeliterally never happened
>>11782502>and the show itself literally told you otherwise?except it doesn't
>>11782510https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BabkQgitifU
>>11782506He didn't scan Gigatron, Gigatron used his spark energy to corrupt all six protoforms into decepticons.
>>11782508SIlverbolt and/or Quickstrike canonically did have a previous life, but they have no memories of it because their data-tracks were not recoverable. One of their pods says, "data-tracks not recoverable," during their birthing process. No foggy memories for Silverbolt, no nothing, any data-tracks he previously had were destroyed either by the crash, the Quantum Surge, the alien wave that disrupted the orbit or a mixture of the above.
>>11782512>>11782514Datatrax are not just memories, they're just any data. this includes "you are a maximal" Also, you know, Megatron was outright lying to them in this scene.
>>11782513It’s been a while so pardon the mistake, but effectively the idea is the same, he has three influences so he’s not a single influenced being but a mashup of sources Gilthor similarly isn’t just G1 Optimus and Megatron visually combined, he also has some Starscream and original influences
>>11782515True, but the pod itself said the datatrax were not recoverable, not just Megatron.
>>11782517read my ENTIRE post
>>11782302I really do not need to be considering this, but those colors are sick and two Star Convoys on one shelf would look pretty fucking cool...>>11782492Yeah, it's particularly advantageous for my lighting setup. It's got red, blue and purple options in addition to the regular lighting. Some colors really pop under some of them, like Megatronus' flames under the red, but it'll often come at the cost of the overall image looking worse or less clear. Being able to mix and match with different lighting conditions opens up some neat possibilities. And I only just started messing around with it myself, but it doesn't seem terribly complicated, just a lot of potential trial and error with getting things to come out the way you want them to.
>>11782514Silverbolt remembers his old name and his character, that's what I was referring to with "foggy memories".Very funny to imagine that he and Quickstrike were probably just a couple colonists or something. Quickstrike as a simple farmer, who everyone agrees is an asshole but thankfully he'll never hold any real power.
Is there a third party Slash that fits in with the Leader Dinobots? Nowadays the group feels incomplete without her.
>>11782523Didn't we just get rumors on a new slash?
I dont understand how people are still fighting over this
>>11782525I heard someone in the general saying there's a dinobot repaint of Slash coming down the line. I was hoping for more of that G1 chunk, y'know?
>>11782527Anon...
>>11782527Evergreen post
>>11782522This isn’t necessarily an old name of a prior existence, Airtazor’s debut episode heavily implies she’s a new being and she states her own name. It’s heavily possible that the provided data tracks put them up to speed from a new born enough to understand the need for a name and to name themselves. I don’t agree with the idea that proyofirns are newborn idea in terms of analogous to a human lifecycle, they are new beings, but being mechanical ones with computer programming they’re given enough information to bring them up to the equivalent of adult mentality instantaneously.
>>11782534>but being mechanical ones with computer programming they’re given enough information to bring them up to the equivalent of adult mentality instantaneouslyNTA, but does this mean Cheetor had a learning disability?
>>11782508They literally state when they find Tigatron's pod that the identity circuit was damaged.
>>11782522>Silverbolt remembers his old namedude, whathe literally makes it up on the spot
>>11782536Identity meaning "you are a robot and a Maximal", not "you are Mr Ti G. Atron, former address 123 Cyberservo Way, model plane hobbist". Dude thought he was an actual tiger.
>>11782535As if you needed further confirmation
>>11782535he wouldn't be the first Transformer character to have one, nor the last
>>11782535It makes him more relatable, especially for certain anons in this very thread.
I wish they'd do Star Convoy, but for Megatron.
>>11782535I think the best way to look at age in transformers is the same way Futurama does it. Some robots are just built at different ages.I think experience also shapes their maturity too. Cheetor was coming from an easy life in Cybertron going to amusement parks and seemingly never saw combat before. Rattrap and Rhinox seemingly had been around the block and did “ adult” activities like study advanced science or go to clubs so they’re adults.When Cheetor gets more experience he acts older. They treated him as a kid but over time they don’t anymore and he’s an equal. Between those two things he effectively grows up. Protoforms are tossed into action and battle almost immediately so their adults have to grow up instantly.
>>11782535Like, half the G1 bios describes them having neurological conditions. Cheetor being impulsive isn't a stretch.
>>11782543They already did - or his equivalent, anyway.
>>11782544>I think the best way to look at age in transformers is the same way Futurama does it. Some robots are just built at different ages.It's really funny imagining whichever Quintesson made Wheelie going 'yeah, for this one I'm thinking an annoying 10 year old who speaks in rhymes'
>>11782548If you lean into the consumer product thing it makes sense.He’s basically a rogue My buddy for alien kids, I’m sure market research thought the rhyming would go well with Garklaggian offspring.
>>11782548like getting someone's kid a drum set to annoy their parents
>>11782493that's weird. That's a lot. thanks for the rundown though.>>11782499oh yeah i've seen this art style. yikes. it's like all the flaws of Animated without the charm.>>11782505pretty sure they were
>>11782538no, that part is literally all he had left. he knew he was a maximal and he had to behave heroically.his prior life as ... probably like, Triatron or something, was lost.
>>11782534>Airtazor’s debut episode heavily implies she’s a new beingwhen?Rhinox's musing about new sparks being brought online? he didn't mean HERS. He was just talking, as he repaired someone's soul, about how precious souls are, and that new ones are the most precious.
>>11782548They are obviously not like that. Who would program someone as a kid? why would some robots need experience to grow up, and others not?what I wanna know is, just how MUCH memory did they keep from before. because Blackarachnia talks about how the last big cybertronian conflict (not the great war) was 400 years ago. and they obviously have some semblance of their names and personalities.
>>11782556>that's weird. That's a lot.Bot Con started doing the comics and toys exclusives back in the Beast Era, their first half decade or so was *all* beast stuff.
>>11782559It's in the lyrics of her theme songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhJY4rSX9og
>>11782556>>11782505I stand corrected, there's exactly ONE reference to stasis pods in the toy bios:>Ramulus’ stasis pod crashed in a mountainous region of prehistoric Earth during the onset of the quantum surge. Isolated, damaged and forced to develop his own survival tactics, Ramulus trusts neither Maximal nor Predacon alike. He is reluctant to fight, but brash and impulsive once provoked. Characteristically calm and reliable when venturing through unexplored territory in his own. Relishes adventure and argues that the Maximal’s success depends on their continual repositioning and relocation. Longs to see Cybertron. Ramulus wields a double slagmaker cannon in robot mode and his fractured Spark crystal generates disruptive ion pulses.>>11782562>They are obviously not like that. Who would program someone as a kid? why would some robots need experience to grow up, and others not?Don't forget that Cybertronians started as a product line. Made by the QUINTESSONS.
>>11782571could have sworn there were many moreyou are correct that the EARLY toy bios had a completely different setting.
Anons of /tfg/:A genie visits you tonight. He lets you have a full, complete toyline, anything from G1 to current year. (To keep, not to resell, don't be a faggot - he says that too, word for word)What are you picking, and bonus point, why? Nostalgia, toy variety, rarity, grails?
>>11782563Mostly correct. The first two BotCons were pre-Beast Wars, and had exclusive toys.
>>11782575I kinda have everything I want, except for the rare limited shit, some of the japanese stuff, basically I only have grails left, so it's hard to pick which line I'd rather have all of, just to get those grails. and does that even count? What line do I choose to get the Big Convoy color variants? Or does picking the BW Neo line just give me every version of the mold, even the super limited? I mean that'd get me the Tako Tank too so I'm kinda into that idea..
>>11782575Everything in the original Beast Wars line. It was my entry point for TF and I regret not holding onto the toys I had for it and never getting the really cool ones like Tigerhawk and Optimal Optimus.
>>11782581>Or does picking the BW Neo line just give me every version of the mold, even the super limited?With the question in mind I was thinking you get every "common" toy from the line, so with the Armada toyline you'd get the Armada Supreme Unicron but not the 1/10 Unicron of Light.
>>11782575Universe 1. I love wacky original repaints and it's full of banger molds from all the different eras up to that point. That or g1 because it's a broad label and that's the only way is get to mess with most of those expensive molds.
>>11782562>Who would program someone as a kid? why would some robots need experience to grow up, and others not?transformers are humanized for the simple meta fact that they’re marketed by humans to humans in real life. Why do millions of year old robots that predate mammalian evolution have human like faces with Japanese samurai kabuto helmet facsimiles? It’s just not that kinda franchise kid. But if you need explanations, for one the cartoon has the products line idea. Then there’s also the fact that some fiction has them as existing to experience different experiences before returning to the “ one” within the matrix. Then there’s just the simple aspect that their personalities will correspond to what they experience and what roles they have. A robot who’s bought online and not given a dedicated role as a soldier immediately and allowed to experience childlike or youthful experiences will probably act young. A robot immediately conscripted to war with readymade knowledge of what is needed for I fight and survive will act more mature. How others treat them will also reflect their self perception, too.Bumblebee was older than the Aerialbots but treated as a younger cadet. The aerialbots were bought online and tasked to be ready soldiers so they acted thusly.
>>11782575Heh. I wish for 3 more wishes. *magic shackles clamp around the genie's wrists and he struggles with all his might as he's pulled back into the bottle*
>>11782596Fuck, this guy's good
>>11782596He literally says you can’t wish for more wishes thoughHave you not seen Aladdin
>>11781784>but it's worth pointing out the Ironhide mold was especially awful.Ironhide is arguably the best out of the 3 autobot megas.
Today I learned that AI can be helpful for certain photo tweaks, but very much has its limits. Sometimes you just gotta do things the old fashioned way.
>>11782654So what’s his name?Star Nemesis?Star Scourge?
>>11782671Nemesis Star Convoy>his
>>11782302Damn, I'd only want this for Shockblast. Always loved the color scheme. The Core Class gun mode also works REALLY well on him whenever the guy wielding him is fuckhuge lmao.
>>11782674LameWhy wouldn’t it be he?
>>11782360what is that Sonar digibash supposed to be?
>Your chariot awaits, my lady!>Down, boy. There's still a mission to complete.
>>11782685The Nemesis (as in the Titan) as Star Convoy.>>11782723Clearly Convobat.
>>11782147Biggest problem with Beast Wars was that it was a big hit with an awesome cliffhanger s1 finale that stretched into s2 and then proceeded to kill enthusiasm for the toys by rushing two 13 episode seasons, aired irregularly, while also compromising the core conceit of the toys: organic beasts that transform into robots.
>>11782759>the nemesisYou what?The nemesis isn’t nemesis prime, have I missed something?
>>11782766that didn't happen the way you described
>>11782771Yeah, I had to look this up too, anon. Basically, for the toy fiction, the Nemesis ship enters the End of Transformers Universe or whatever they call it and manifest as Missing Link Black Convoy, then partners with Energon Shockblast and through some sort of shenanigans becomes Nemesis Star Convoy.
>>11782766Biggest problem with G1 was that it was a big hit with an awesome s1 that stretched into s2 and then proceeded to kill enthusiasm for the toys by rushing a movie starring Poochie, and a poorly-written season 3, while also compromising the core conceit of the toys: realistic-looking Earth vehicles that transform into robots.
wtb
>>11782329>>11782331>completely different arms>completely different legs>battle sled appears to be non-removablefirst bad Missing Link figure, RIP. Was this from a different designer or something?
>>11782813Fuck off
>>11782818And it's not even cherry red it's just toonshit color.
>>11782301Looks pretty sweet, but I'd rather wait for Ratchet.
>>11782813Totally agree. Part of the charm of ML so far is trying to make the ridiculous G1 toy designs into something reasonable... and Ironhide had an especially ridiculous design. He didn't even have a head! This just seems like a copout.
>>11782766As praised as the Transmetal figures are, it's kinda interesting to note they apparently didn't do as well as the first few years in both Japan and America. I think the appeal of getting a "normal" animal toy that could transform was part of the appeal. When it's a robot, it's cool but there's also a few other toys like that too and the disguise aspect is gone. You expect a robot animal to have missiles or something. The early BW stuff fit in well with other gnarly animal toys of the time with the bonus of it turning into a robot.
>>11782249Some of the details are wrong there.The "Doctor is one of the founders of time Lord society" thing was an unresolved plotline from the original Dr Who run that only existed to add mystery to the character and the show runner only allowed it to run try and add some much needed mystery to the character but never intended to let the pay off play out once he learned that the pay off radically fucked up all existing lore (in particular it made Doctor Who's species a race of clones who use use regeneration to hide the fact that the plant had a small population and that the entire species is sterile too, and that the Doctor lied about having a wife and kids and Susan, his granddaughter, was some random kid he grabbed off the street to pretend to be his granddaughter).The whole pay off was only allowed to happen because the New Adventures line (the dark grim and gritty novel line that was the default continuation of the dhow's lore in the early 90s) was being cancelled most of the writers who set up the plot thread (known as "the Cartmel Master Plan", after script editor Andrew Cartmel, who commissioned the storyline) wrote in the New Adventures line and kept teasing a pay off and decided to do so, because with the release of the 1996 movie and introduction of the new Doctor, Paul McGann, the BBC gave the order to kill the New Adventures line (which was published by Virgin Media, run by Richard fucking Branson) and move all Dr Who book tie ins in house at the BBC and hire a whole new slate of writers because the BBC wanted a more kid friendly take on the new Eighth Doctor, not the dark and edgy crap a bunch of writers, many of which were lunatic lefty homosexuals still pissy about Thatcher even though she hadn't been in power for ages, involved.
>>11782853When the book Lungbarrow, came out with these revelations it was the second to last NA book and the last canon book with the 7th Doctor and led directly into the TV movie. FANS DESPISED IT. Hated it so much that it overnight poisoned the entire reputation of the New Adventures line and the Cartmel Masterplan fanboys who kept hyping up some grand reveal. It was so reviled that BBC gleefully refused to acknowledge it after the fact and so poisoned the well for the NA line that RTD declared the entire NA line non canon when the Dr Who revival happened.And for added shits and giggles, the book had a super low print run along with the last NA book (which was full of bitching and crying about the BBC killing the grim and gritty sandbox of the gay commies), that even today a copy goes for $100+ if you can even find it.
>>11782783>Trans black man nemesis prime and their short kingThank you takara, I didn't think transformers could become even more progressive
I LOVE MY DEVASTATOR.How's the new Bruticus set looking for far?
What is this I saw it on Twitter
>>11782868Cyberworld. We saw the new stuff already some months back.
>>11782868I am so getting this guy and repurposing him as The Dweller.
>>11782864Really depends on how much you love frames.
>>11782876>framesOh feck.
>>11782335Yeah, it's when a Sunbow toy is doing a G1 toy configuration. Takara previously used this term for MP Shockwave (left arm reversed) & MP Skyfire's toy configurations. >>11782395Watch this: https://x.com/AnarchyBerly3/status/2051991554097594415?s=20>>11782493Gem of a post>>11782507That only applies for the first year (1996), Grimlock is from the second year & ever since, they made so that the toy bios are in the settings of the cartoonex: TM2 Blackarachnia mentions she was a Maximal Protoform
>downloaded Til All Are One comic compendiums and IDW Phase One and Two collectionsI am very erect right now.
good picks?
>>11782868RightI forgot about that
>>11782889Careful with Perceptor, the panels on his legs are precarious.
>>11782810But why Shockblast?
>>11782897are they wont to snap off?
>>11782903If you twist them wrong the little hinge piece can stress to breakage, just be gentle with them.
>>11782900Someone at Takara tripped over a loose Core Shockwave toy, remembered that "yeah, we make this", then suggested they repaint it and bundle it with something for easy money.
>>11782584yeah no need then, save the wish and give it to somebody else.>>11782588yeah and part of that humanization is that they are NOT just born capable adults with names already. so the guys in pods were already pre-existing
>>11782671Starge
>>11782852exactly>>11782853it is incredible how mad Thatch makes them, when she was their best PM since Churchill
>>11782882but he doesn't
>Doctor WhoI just remembered this. I need to read the comics already.
>Omega Prime has dreadful release qc issues, off scale and that bad chest>Sideburns mold is awful and not fitting>Commandos will probably not be done, if they are it wont be right regardless>Scourges shoulders CRID got it so bad, at least Skybyte is okay
>>11782900Legends comics are made by someone reaching into their toy box and pulling out random toys. Or Japanese guys linking deepest cuts to deepest cuts because of a similar sounding name. It's crazy.
>>11782912But Nemesis Hot Rodimus would have worked better.
>>11782936I always forget that Death's Head isn’t just a TF UK thing, he’s fully owned by Marvel>>11782938I’ve never realized how well “CRID” works as shorthand for both versions, I’m shocked that isn’t used more often. Also, don’t forget Tow-Line
>>11782889And amazing prices, too.
>>11782916Jesus, if this commu yesterday were able to recognize somehow a dozen of characters by looking at the new TF Hot Wheels toys (as it tend to happen often), it's not farfetched to recognize your Convoy leader, from someone having just a similar head & torso. >>11782900It's lore-driven, & honestly it fucks better than pulling from one of many existing black hot rods
Just need the damaged Megatron now.
>>11782963community*
>>11782864HorribleGenuinely
>>11782889>TFLand chadBased. I got Sideswipe and Drift from 2015 RID and a Cyberverse Optimus custom painted touch ups for like sub $30
Transmetal 4 Megatron
>>11782002nta, what's his alt mode look like?
>>11782671>hisIt's Nemesis. This is a fembot.
>>11782857>Trans black man nemesis primeThis is more of a Splendid Convoy situation - she shares a chassis with Star Convoy just like Yellow Convoy shares a chassis with Fire Convoy, but she's still a fembot.
>>11782983>>11782995Why do these look so bad?
>>11782938Unfortunately CRID is just one of the many former lines Hasbro routinely has fucked up alongside TFP, Cyberverse, RID 2017, and the rest.
>>11782998I tried to do weird textures and panel washes
>>11782994God I wish Shockblast was me
>>11782983bitchin>>11782994what
>>11783016Nemesis in her name comes from the Decepticon ship who is a fembot. She does a thing and becomes a thing and energon shockblast is here because reason
>>11783021you sure it doesn't come from how it's it's always nemesis convoy?
There are too many "Optimus Prime but black"s.
>>11782864Combined mode looks on par with the other frame combiners but the individual bots are better than anything we've gotten so far. Brawl and Blast Off are genuinely two of my favourite toys this year. >>11782876Okay, I'm sold. I actually really like how that looks.
>>11783025it's tradition!
>>11782972Why'd they go so far so to make the arms a frame combination when it looks nothing like the animation model? Literally just the the torso and legs would have been fine
>>11782964Are you willing to wait an eternity for a Megatron with the right colored legs?
>>11783037>pink eyed blast offcringe
>>11782889Definitely. Perceptor is probably the weakest of the bunch but he's still an interesting toy.Happy to see Highbrow made the cut.>>11782992
>>11782964I got damaged Prime the other day and I really like him, I'm just thoroughly confused as to why his hips are an even darker grey than the first version. I figured for sure that since the hips were obviously gang molded with the trailer that they'd take the opportunity to mold them in white.
>>11783045Silver eyes or cyclops, which type of wrong are you?
Skybound is using Prime Skyquake.
>>11783062Oh hey, Lugnut.
>>11783062That's not terribly surprising considering the same writer introduced Bulkhead as the first thing he did in his run
>>11783066Right, except those who were deluding themselves that the script leak was a deepcut hint at a Generations Euroquake toy are already throwing a hissy fit despite everyone already telling them that it was probably the Prime version since that's one of the shows Kirkman is familiar with.
>>11782844this. If you're going to change the original toy that much, might as well go with a CHUG
>>11783041No point doing it that way if the fucking positions for Blast Off and Vortex are so scrambled and flippedHasbro is just retarded and trying to milk the frame shit
>>11783041the designers only care about accuracy when it gives them an excuse to do the lamest dogshit possible
>>11783025Fun fact.JG1 now canonically has 3 completely unrelated Nemesis Primes, in addition to RID Scourge.
>>11783119well that fits well with a setting where scanning fire convoy gives you laser prime
>>11782301Gorgeous. It's what the Onebox should have been back then, instead of a empty skeleton accessory pack to a micro figure. Now it's a real Diaclone Car.
>>11783119I’m guessing that’s not including the clone Prime from A Prime Problem or the fake Prime created by Dark Nova to fight the Battlestars
>>11782983BWII Galvatron fucking sucks as a design and no color scheme can save him.
>>11781737>>11781740Okay hotwheel, im paying attention. Now give me this recolor.
>>11783169That's rad as fucki miss when cars looked cool. but I also get why they can't be, and why I'd never be able to drive one regardless.
>>11782331imbecile.
https://x.com/ILOVEINNOKOmk3/status/2053407321129464158Neat
>>11782301This is novel from the perspective that they made a "G1-ish" toy of the cartoon version of him, but even from that perspective they fucked up with the head. It's way too close to the show to be a G1 toy.
>>11783156There's Binaltech Black Convoy created by Arkeville, MP Black Convoy created by Unicron and ML Nemesis Prime who's the Nemesis spaceship AI. And of course Car Robots Black Convoy/RID Scourge.And that's not even counting Universe Nemesis Prime (the mammoth one) who became Alternity Black Convoy.
>>11783191That is weird and freaky and I do not like it
>>11783191that is pretty neat. I like nonstandard body plans.>>11783216That is a fair reaction. it is weird.
>>11783169God pleaseAnd IT BETTER NOT FUCKING YELLOW SO HELP ME GOD
>>11782389I'm still looking for the naked lunch thew video. Anybody have any ideas?
ME GRIMLOCK AM HAVE TOUCH TOO!
>>11783241I'm afraid you're not going to find anyone who cares. And even if we hadn't become totally soured on that poor formerly-funny faggotron, nobody remembers individual jokes in individual episodes of a casual toy review show.
>>11783246You got this, Grimlock!
>>11783247I dunno, sometimes there's moments that stand out. Like SINGLE WEAPON PORT, or Road Trip II: Bunch Out For Lunch.
>>11783168I'm not trying to save him I'm trying to doom us all.
>>11783247>wespeak for yourself
>>11783253I just calls em like I sees em, and I've never once seen Thew-positivity in here.
>>11783023This is a reference to the new Legends comics - the character is not your usual Nemesis Prime. Nemesis (the female Titan from Legacy) ends up in manifesting as Missing Link Nemesis Prime after jumping universes; she then partners with Energeon Shockblast, and after shenanigans, gets upgraded to Nemesis Star Convoy. She is continually referred to as female throughout both upgrades, so even though she LOOKS like your typical Nemesis Prime, she's a whole different character with different origins.
>>11783259She's going to end up turning into Spychanger Scourge (female) at some point.
>>11783265I get it, because Spychangers Optimus is what originally inspired Yellow Splended and it was also mentioned that the Scourge of Optimus's universe was also female. Truly we have gone full circle
>>11783259Flat is justice
>>11783259That's pretty stupid>>11783268hey that's right.
>>11783275I've been tempted by Missing Link Optimus for awhile, but the Nemesis colors look so good on this thing.
>>11783281>That's pretty stupidHey, man, I don't write this shit - but it's the lore provided for the character via the tie-in comic, and given that this is the first appearance of a "Nemesis Star Convoy" ever, it's literally the only thing we have to go with in terms of official writing. Takara says she's a girl, that she's the upgraded form of Missing Link Nemesis Prime, and that THAT is a reformatted Nemesis (specifically the one who turns into a fembot Titan), so that's who she is.
Finally got my flea market Metroplex a helmet!
>>11783268>>11783265And all of this started because during a BotCon script reading, one if the audience participation roles went to a woman voicing tiny lemon Prime.
>>11783299>Man, what IS this thing? A bounce thing?
If this whole Nemesis thing happened to Beast Wars characters, Navi-ko would take on this body instead of her dolphin body.
>>11783303It will never not bother me that they fucked up the gorilla fur color on the main version of this mold (AND the Takara redo that at least fixed the skin)so we lost what should have been a really cool effect, where a lead-gray-furred gorilla with purplish blue-black skin becomes a black-furred gorilla with bright purple skin. That's way better contrast.. and then his robot helmet could have been purple.. I think that tracks a lot better.
>>11783246Grimlock's T-Rex arms should not be pointing down, it looks so off.
>>11783322Pardon my ignorance. Better?
>>11783331I admit I'm a tooner so I prefer them pointing up, but it's your toy, display it however you wish.
>>11783334i thought the only person using that faggy term was one who dislikes them
>>11783336>faggy termCalm down, anon. It's just an emgo reference.
>>11783338since the fuck when? I feel like that would have come up before now.
>>11783334I mean, I want them to look 'correct', I just don't have the finer visual details of a lot of G1 characters committed to memory. I want to be accurate to the source material with the way I display, pose and photo my toys though, so I honestly appreciate when people point stuff like that out.
>>11782983>>11782995These look so cool (especially the Galvatron digi), the dry brushing on Toxitron looks like a Toybiz figurine
>>11783299METROPLEX HEEDS THE CALL OF THE PITTSBURGH STEELERS.
>>11783331Cringe AI Slopper
>>11783259>Nemesis (the female Titan from Legacy)I don't think it's female in Japan so as far as we're concerned, this is just your fanfiction
>>11783358>I don't think it's female in JapanNTA, but where are you getting that from? As far as I know, Legacy Nemesis was female across the board. Do you have any sources that say otherwise?
>>11782302Somehow looks better in these colors
>>11783314>It will never not bother me that they fucked up the gorilla fur color on the main version of this moldHow did they fuck it up? There had never been a Nemesis Primal in fiction before, that toy was the first. There was no prior portrayal for it to be inaccurate to.Meaning: they didn't "fuck it up", they merely made a stylistic choice that you might not have preferred or would have done differently. But to be clear, those are two very different things.
>>11783396> on the main version of this mold
>>11783358It has a gigantic pink dildo, so choose the gender and how do you want that thing to be used according to your preferences.
You get ship if I get trip!
