>The World of BIONICLEMedia: https://biomediaproject.com/bmp/Story: https://wallofhistory.com/Wiki: https://biosector01.com/BTS: https://www.youtube.com/@BonkFoundArchiveMagnaleaks: https://magnaleak.github.io/MAGNALEAK/>Building with BIONICLESets: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?catType=S&catString=273Studio: https://www.bricklink.com/v3/studio/download.pageGuide: https://bioniclerebuilt.wixsite.com/fallingstars/studio-guide-v2Prototype gallery: https://biosector01.com/wiki/Gallery:Prototypes>Archive: https://archive.palanq.win/toy/search/subject/%2Fbiog%2FPrevious Thread: >>11763067hey anon did u get tahu yet?
r8 these custom masks i goti personally really like the akaku in yellow and the sand purple kakama, but those are more awkward colours to work with than dark turquoise
>>11797193That fucked pakari is actually really neat.
beep boop>>11797115>hey anon did u get tahu yet?He arrived and I even felt a little feel once he was assembled
>>11797115Buddy of mine secured one for me.
>>11797115>topicNo, cant find any stores near me that even have him and dont feel like getting him, more looking for technic bulk in general more than anything as of right now
Has anyone ever made a MOC of the Nameless Toa from Bionicle Heroes? Picked up the DS version recently, dude seems pretty cool with his various Toa themed guns.>>11797115>hey anon did u get tahu yet?I have no idea where to get them and I don't have the scanner app so nah
>>11797193these are odd colors. although lego has been releasing neon yellow lately so it may work with that pakari. really like the sand pink kakama>>11797456i use omgbricks and check stock online at walmart and target before going. you could also visit official lego stores and they will sometimes let you scan them
the bricks I have are drying, let's see how that goes and if they work later
>>11797193Love the colors. Please share your further progress and what you use them for!>>11797493Good that you replaced the blue pins for black, though I still see them as the eyes before the mantis ones lol...>>11797456Never heard of this, but he looks pretty boring and is an inika build. Can't say I'm tempted to construct him.
>>11797577the main reason why i ordered the masks was to get some inspiration for some matoran/ toa mocsso far i have an idea for most of them, although i'll have to order parts so far the idea is matoran for the kakama/ pakari/ huna/ hau and an off colour toa of fire for the akakunot entirely sure what to do with the miru and ruru yet, maybe a plasma matoran and a turaga respectively
How to cope with the fact that you had the full Gen1 collection as a kid, but parts broke, got lost, some were given away to younger siblings etc.
>>11797577>Never heard of this, but he looks pretty boring and is an inika build. Can't say I'm tempted to construct him.In terms of design he's not exciting, but he seems to have the ability to emulate the powers (and weapons? the exact provenance of his non-zamor shooters is questionable) of other Toa, and of course there's the general mystery surrounding him as an apocryphal 7th Inika with an unknown base element. Definitely more interesting as an obscure bit of pseudo-lore, like Shadow Matoran and the like.
Reposting here too, I want weird saddles, why are there ZERO, at most this scala one but its rare and expensive, and maybe damages itself, Where is the real saddle print or something that fits better onto a build, god, also its super weird that we got two saddles in earth orange, this scala one and the fabuland ones
>>11798302you could always try to get a non lego saddle from a horse doll>>11797577false eyes yo.. this head is unused and was meant to go on pic related but I decided it was too big.>>11797719just buy bulk lots :q
>>11798304gonna moc spam, i got a big bricklink order coming to finish up these builds and do recolors
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>>11798304Wish they made more pieces in earth orange, that one weird leak thing that happened a year or two ago showing that we coulda gotten a wave 2 mctorans line with much more exotic colors including earth orange sucks looking back since there shoulda been more technic or general bricks in earth orange, at least these saddles will be good to get two of. also finding a saddle at the flea market is dangerous business considering what you're dealing with, just making one custom for the rahi would likely work best since stirrupts are real fragile on the scala one apparently
how do i make a turquoise turaga that isn't just jungle slizer, who is also the most efficient way of getting turquoise connectors
>>11798855dip entire thing in turq, either that or try and find a paint that matches old light turquoise from belville
random parts, I found another pneumatic tube recently so thats 2 down, surprised I haven't seen it go down more in mocs
>>11798855Turaga with the same build and function as the ones in the sets, or a custom build?You could use a different color for the secondary. Sand green or olive could be cool and might make you have to improvise around their more limited part selection.
>>11798855I mean, just go through Bricklink at this point. Ton of turquoise parts past and present.>>11799541Recommend this path, too. Turquoise would be a good secondary to another color.
>>11799541>>11799567trying to moc one, i like the '01 turaga but i wouldn't go out of my way to make something look like themduma is just a slightly bigger '04 matoran, which i also dislike i've been brainstorming the past couple days about how to get one to work with the slizer body, only to realize i've been trying to reinvent the wheel and that i already have something close to what i want, so i'll just base it off of that with different colours
>>11798342I actually really like how this one looks.
finally got my Matoro, but some pieces are a bit yellowish, anyone tried bleaching white pieces with hydrogen peroxide?
>>11801011HP will make it whiter for the moment but fuck it way faster afterwards
>>11801088how so?
>>11801129Will come back way worse yellowing
I got a bunch of Mctoran missing an arm or two. What's a decent subsitute build for their arms?
Speaking of mctoran, have any of the 3rd party customs guys started to do reproductions of those parts?
>>11801525https://sidorak.store/search?type=product&q=Mctoran Sorta, no body though
>>11797115I miss BIONICLE. I was reading of the Makuta recently and was loving what I was finding out on them (like since Teridax sent them to die in the storms, it essentially means everyone there, Bitil and Chirox were actually recognized as competent enough to be a threat to him for example)Why did LEGO kill this off man? This was amazing.
>>11802932They weren't able to keep up the momentum back then and sales declined, the lack of continuous media probably didn't help, and while it was cool to get different characters all the time, the continually existing and upgrading cast of Ninjago keeps the audience familiar, even to those not actively following the media. Though, they tried that with Hero Factory, so who knows if Tahu and friends could have been the only main heroes for so long (and of course, a fully buildable set isn't quite like a minifigure with alternating prints). It still lasted nearly 10 years, which is pretty incredible for an original theme. And then G2 had... a lot of flaws, but probably most egregious was the presentation and storytelling. It had some strengths, but it was mostly flash with no substance. I'd like to think they'd be able to do something better nowadays, but who knows. If they never make more we at least have the stories that already exist.
>>11797115*steals your 200k+ collection of sealed bionicle sets*
>>11802976Nowadays everything re-explored gets monkey paw’d so it might be a blessing in disguise it stays that way, ending as it did
I'm 31 years old and now I want to buy back all the Bionicles time lost me.
>>11803002Entirely possible. Honestly, I'm ok with change, and I know I won't always be the audience. For example with Transformers and the various series, I'll like some, I won't like others, but with that continuous iteration the brand continues to thrive, though the focus recently has turned to the adult fans (I guess kind of like the addition/focus on the Legacy and Legends in Ninjago). I'm not of the mindset that if a new version of a story I enjoy comes out and I don't like it, that it somehow tarnishes what already exists, kind of like G2 and G1, the former's existence does nothing to G1, and if anything it makes us appreciate the depth of it more.If Bionicle G3 happened and was a character builder via SCCBS, I'm sure it won't be for everyone, but maybe kids will come to like it, and long time fans will get a bone or two thrown at them, while other long time fans will just be happy to support a brand they've enjoyed for a long time. Same thing if it was minifigure focused. CMF Tahu seems to be quite popular, so of course some people are speculating that this was a litmus test of sorts, and who knows.
>>11803030Holy well-adjusted fan alert
>>11802976>and sales declinedThat was because of the joint issue but Lego sycophants will never admit that
>>11803057maybe the lore got convoluted and boring, and bionincle would have benefited from not having a solid timeline. the entire series is about mystery, much like Legend of Zelda not directly connecting it's games with a timeline, so it would have benefitted if a new team was made without direct connection to the previous team but more of a legend with no clear number on how much time had passed
>>11803061that should have been a strength for a reboot, you could put it before or after
>>11803057>>11803061it was for a couple of reasonslego execs apparently didn't care for bionicle and hadn't for a number of years before cancelling itpart quality started declining in 2007 with the lime issues and then the following years with the square sockets being weaker than the older round ones the story had gotten too convoluted for kids to follow or get in to and sales had been steadily decreasing for a number of years, with 2009's apparently being low enough to justify canning it
I find it kinda funny how the new dinosaur set gave us reddish orange in a cbbs piece
>>11803111I couldn’t even read english properly and loved where the story went when I was a kid. I feel the bigger issue really was in the marketing and the like instead.
>meet duckbricks>he calls you a pirakaWhat do?
>>11803351Shoot him and steal his bricks
>>11803351My Piraka.
>>11803057The joint issue was huge cause these are toys at the end of the day. The story is cool for those that were really into it but you need the sets themselves to be stuff that people want to buy. If you buy a set that breaks you're not gonna want to get another. What was originally something with mask collectability, action features and something you could combine sets together, they became basically regular action figures by the end of it.
I think it also lasted too long.>dude the toa nuva are back and are fighting the makuta in the heart of the universe!Okay? I'm a teenager now and like fuck I'll be seen buying toys.
>>11797115I got two tahus. The scalpers hit my city hard for Lloyds and Tahus. So when I finally found two tahus, I grabbed them both. One for general use and one for long storage. Normally I would leave one for a child who'd get some joy out of getting him. But the only people who care about bonkles are millennial manchildren and the scalper douchebags would hoover him up before any children got him anyway. I wonder if LEGO will do the rest of the toa.I also picked up a Prowler from the Spiderverse cmf series. He was a bit difficult to find, as was Miles and Gwen. Even though I didn't pick those up. I wonder if LEGO is producing minifigs in uneven numbers.
>>11803111>the story had gotten too convoluted for kids to follow or get in toI feel like many fans seem to attribute too much importance to the story in this regard. None of the kids where I lived had any idea of the story outside of the movies, the ads and some of the (mostly non-canon) online content. And many kids knew even less about the story. But the toys were still popular. I guess marketing, atmosphere/style and an implied lore were still important. But the main problems were probably the fragile joints, the sameish builds and the rising prices. And in 2009 Bionicle already switched to that plain "generic elemental hero in bright colors" style Hero Factory and G2 also had. That was probably a factor too.>>11803509>I wonder if LEGO will do the rest of the toa.Very unlikely. We only got a Tahu minifigure because there are some Bionicle fans among the designers at Lego and one of them worked on this CMF series.
>>11803543>because there are some Bionicle fans among the designers at LegoIf anything doesn't that support the idea of more coming?
Thinking back, what really derailed the story for me was Metru Nui. I was well into all the Mata Nui era stuff (I had every book from that era on release) it all built up to Takua becoming Takanuva and giving Makuta a big defeat.Then it was all immediately thrown into the freezer. A couple of years later, we're finally back to where we left off and Takanuva gets sidelined and the Toa Nuva immediately job. Hurray.
>>11803582Same here. All I knew was of the Mask of Light but when the story got to the past I couldn’t care less. My mind as a kid was more that I already knew who those guys were in the present, and anything else woupd end up in square 1.Like even nowadays that I value those things exposing the past of the story, I still feel Metru Nui was a boring arc.
>>11803582>Takanuva gets sidelined and the Toa Nuva immediately job.This was a really weird choice. At least one of these things shouldn't have happened. If the Toa jobbed, then you could have Takanuva lead a new Toa team for a time with all his old Matoran friends, or just have the Nuva have to do something else. I get that it was supposed to raise the stakes and introduce a fresh new team, but haven't we learned anything from the '86 TF movie?
>>11803632something that always rubbed me the wrong way was that the chroniclers company is effectively just cast aside for no apparent reasoni can only assume it was because only maku got an official set, but on the other had iirc most of the inika didn't interact all that much before the 2006 story outside of jaller and hahli
>>11803582afaik bionicle was planned to have this big multi arc story spanning 7 parts which were 3 years each 2001 - 2003 was mata nui, 2004 - 2006 was metru nui, 2007- 2009 was the 'heart island', etcsome time around 2003 some of the older planners began to leave for various reasons, and eventually that was whittled down to just farshtey after 2005apparently 2004 being a flashback year was always intended, but somewhere along the line it was condensed down into being one year instead of three, then boosted to two after it was decided to not use metru nui for only the one year (which is why 2005 is such a nothingburger for story impact)i'm not entirely sure what the original 2004 story was supposed to be, i do know that krekka and nidhiki were supposed to be vahki captains and then became dark hunters later on, but i don't know if they were actually characters before that and that the dark hunter autism was entirely farshtey being an edgelord
>>11803658I'm curious about why the fuck Toa Dume and Nidhiki sets got as far as they did to be renamed Norik and Iruni. What were they even thinking for 2005 initially.
>>11803669best i can scrape up is that at some point 2005 was supposed to focus on lihkan's toa team, but that seems to be something based on the initial 2004 storyapparently there's some documentation out there but i haven't found it yet
>>11803658Fuck the dark hunters.>here's a childs fan contest oc>his name is EDGEKILLERIt's an entire faction of ridiculously powerful one offs that never do anything. Makuta should have killed them all during truce period between Metru Nui and Mata Nui.
>>11803680yeah, i think it wasvahki captains > dark hunters (forma de makuta's dudes) > dark hunters (edgelords r us)as time has passed i have increasingly found myself less tolerating of farshtey's direction post 2004 when he effectively became the sole head of the story
>>11803683Greg fucked the scale so badly.>the gsr is 40 million feet tallNo it's not Greg, that would make Mata Nui continent sized and we know it's not.>everyone and everything is thousands and thousands of years old100,000 years of history and only one thing happened.
>>11803680Everything relating to Makuta becoming Teridax was a mistake
>>11803697>>everyone and everything is thousands and thousands of years old...but all the cool mystic polynesian shit on Mata Nui is like a year old and everyone just has amnesia!
>>11803709I love how the Toa washing ashore, not knowing what the fuck is happening or where they are to the Great Spirit Robot getting domed by a moon is a year at the most in universe. Really cool.
What should someone who knows almost nothing about Bionicles start with? The films? The OG flash games?
>>11803697>>11803709i think everyone being really old was part of the original design documents, but the backstory was different iirc everyone had lost their memories after the gsr chrash landed, the turaga had a little bit more due to spiritual connections at their shrines but still not everything everyone not on the island was apparently in stasis within the gsr
Thinking about vehicles
>>11803722buy a bulk lot in your area and watch the movies :q. if you wanna get a decent rundown of the lore watch noah greenspan's 7 part series on it, and/or in the background if you'd like
Female bionicle (not water)
>>11803765Do you think Ga-Koro has the reputation of being a village of whores given they're the only females on the island?
>>11797115OMG bonklefags on sudoku watch!!!https://youtu.be/pEJTf08nw7I
why is there a general for a dead toy line?
>>11803765Gotchu.
>>11803896I hate these cringe rahi rabbit builds so much it’s unreal
>>11803853>>11803853Bc bonk fans still exist. One of them literally snuck into a kid's hotel to find a Tahu statue.https://youtu.be/BqLR5ImIHc8?si=LvPB1ajsMsA6cxr7
>>11803997is that why G2 failed?
>>11804005Honestly, Bionicle fans can be be so mental (Bionicle-2-trans pipeline)That I wouldn't be suprised if that's part of the the reason why Lego will not bring it back...
thinking about making a bionicle fangame
>>11803765Nikila...
>>11804005g2 failed because lego didn't want to market it properly and knee capped it at almost every turnthey were also receiving pressure from disney because it was 'competing' with their buildable star wars figures that were out a the time, so lego decided to cuck out and cancelled their own theme in favour or licenseshit, which immediately bombed because it turns out the reason for the low sales was because 90% of the sw figures looked like shit
>>11803853It’s better to be split off from /lg/ with how its a festering fleshhole now due to a shill and his spam
>>11804266Who's the shill?*Turns to camera*"Is it...(you)?"
>>11804291it's literally any anon he wants it to be whenever he feels like it's time to start shitting up the thread, then he comes to do it here
>>11803722it's always safe to start with mata nui online game, it throws you right in but the pc has amnesia so he's also learning as you dothe rest of the templar studios stuff is also a good next step, although their last bionicle stuff was in 2004
>>11804372Isn't MNOG super easy to sequence break if you don't have fan patches on? I remember it being possible to go to po-koro without ever clearing ga-koro
>>11804291>>11804366See what I mean? And always with this corny ass shit too.
>>11803997Tldr? I was unable to watch the whole thing due to the epic lolrandom millennial "funny voice". Why can't he just talk normally?
>>11804170>and cancelled their own theme in favour or licenseshitThe same thing they keep doing to this day.
>>11804496>>11804266We need a Lego Schizo General just to contain this retard
>>11804555>>11804507And this is why the board got flooded with 50 spam threads, because of fags like this.
Can a cool combiner model redeem a set you're otherwise not assed about? The Toa Hordika are like that for me.
>>11804600i think the vahki sets are alright but the kraahu and the kranua are really good combiners a shame they don't really do anything in the story, but that's because greg was no fun allowed and didn't like the vahki from the get go
I come here asking for knowledgewhat sets do you guys think have the perfect balance between playability and aesthetics, I only had the OG Toas as a kid but as cool as I think they are I can't get over the fact that they can barely move. from a quick glance I think the metru nui look pretty neat but I can't help but feel like their torsos seem weirdly empty. and I look at some of the last releases and think they probably have great articulation and whatnot but frankly just look a bit shit.
>>11804605If you like the Toa Metru, Iruini may be up your alley. He fixes a lot of their problems (chest armor, longer forearms, double gears).
>>11804605i think the toa metru had the best balance, the only real issue is that they lack a proper shoulder jointi kinda like the weird gap between the torso and hips if that's what your referring to, helps remind you that they're part robot my only real issue with them is that i wish their secondary colour was their turaga colours instead of dark bluish grey, but that might've made them too garish when they're all posed together
>>11804610There's also Norik, but I'm more partial to Iruini.
>>11804605Bohrok. Everything else I am thinking about suffers from not being that well articulated or floppy gear functions.
>>11803002Exactly this. Most things were not designed to last forever, and Bionicle was created for a specific purpose we're far removed from today. LEGO's heart would not be in it the way it was back then. Personally, I'm more than happy with fans carrying that torch, and the nature of building toys means there's no end to the characters and stories fans can create (even if 50% of the time that manifests in them giving toy "robots" tits).
>>11804605I realize this is sort of sidestepping your question, but for my money, as with all things Lego, the best stuff comes out of the community. I also primarily had the first wave (original Toa, Turaga, McToran, etc.), and revisiting them as an adult, like you, I found them pretty limited. So I looked into some community-made articulated Toa/matoran, and I ended up with these two. Honestly couldn’t be happier. They’re both quite solid and playable, and they’re fairly true to the original proportions and aesthetics (and obviously you can customize them if this or that aspect isn’t to your liking).
>>11804715Looks really solid, where'd you get the design for the torso?
>>11804722The design is pretty well lifted whole-cloth from this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw9FVFQmpug&ra=mI use a modified Gali torso because I don’t own (and didn’t really want to use) the Megablocks pieces required in the other torsos. I also kept the legs less bulky, and I plan to swap out some black pieces for red.Whole thing was a bit of a pain in the ass, because the video is long and full of jokes and tangents, and many steps are skipped over, but I can’t argue with the end result.
>>11804690my primary concern is that eventually the parts will dry upalmost all of the molds are out of production, and as good quality as many of the parts are, connector joints have a tendency to eventually develop cracks hell, for the project i'm working on i'll probably have the largest collection of dark turquoise connectors in my country, and i'll have less than 15
>>11803753>>11804372bless you
>>11804787Any hints for what you’re doing? I’m more just scavenging for interesting stuff before bulking up, also any tips for buying a ton of technic beams/random stuff?
>>11804615>>11804610I just wish they had a bendable torso. I guess that would have made them unbalanaced.
>>11804792nothing too crazy, just some mocs with dark turquoise as the secondary colour by the time i'm done i'll have about 14 connectors total, including the 5 i already have with jungle slizer
>>11804868Any other weird bricks you plan on getting? I got some weird joint test tools that came from hawaii I think would be a cool belt accessory
>>11804603Seeing Vrahno the other day talking about the Dark Hunters and the Vahki, and pointing out the similarities in the Vahki combiners and Nidhiki and Krekka had me like pic relatedReally cool combiners though, and honestly I should get some vahki again just so I can build those two.
>>11804899nah nothing crazy outside of some less that common colour connectors and a pearl light grey face part
>>11805054Vrahno - the best bionicle fan animator.Who now almosy exclusively makes Gee hyphen dee zilla content...
>>11805653To be fair to the guy, he was making Godzilla videos back while G1 was still happening. They're his bread and butter before Bionicle, but that man's talented. Hope he does another Bionicle video someday.
>>11804010im fairly convinced this is also the reason masks of powers got removed because they could not help themselves
>>11804787>my primary concern is that eventually the parts will dry upwe can print more.>>11804790yw!>>11804552Honestly I wouldn't even mind if they brought back ccbs and did another line of star wars but helmeted characters or droids only or especially transformers since they got the license now. Remember we got robbed of a B2 Battle Droid and a 501st clone trooper due to the cancellation of that subtheme.
>>11806334oh, i can see why that happened now...Can trannies try to not ruin something?Thanks in advance.....
>>11806334Why is Lewa using the mask of hanging? Is he stupid?
What are Husi worth anyway? Are Comets expensive or cheap?
>>11806334>you will never be a denizen of Ga-Koro>you are not blue>you have no upward-facing socket on your chest >when the red star revives you, you will be you default self.
>>11806483that's funny but what actually stops any bionicle from just rebuilding himself as a girl bionicle if he wants to be onebionicle society?
>>11806526They're organic to a certain level so they probably can't change sex even if they rebuild themselves
>>11806562then whats stopping one from shooting himself with a kanohi disk of gender transformation
>>11806571me
>>11806334>>11806385What gives with the trans/bionicle connection? Is it just that bionicle and trans communities are each very autistic? And is it also just that trans people are terminally online, so any online space has a disproportionate number of troons? Or is there something more to it?
>>11806841I'm fairly sure they are represent a way, way smaller portion of the fanbase than they think, they're just very vocal and since they stay in echo chambers it looks like they're the majority
>>11806841Its about the customizability, same thing as why they're often artists, involved with video games, etc. They can handle not being in control about basic aspects of themselves (biological, or even others' perception of them). They have nothing, so they become control freaks instead. Lego has bright colors and rahi boobs. It's fucked, and never stood a chance.
>>11806841>Is it just that bionicle and trans communities are each very autistic? And is it also just that trans people are terminally online, so any online space has a disproportionate number of troons?That's all. There's nothing deeper to it, they just try to force the connection because they want to have something that's "theirs".
>>11806841it's entirely because of the autism, every community that had a sizable autisic population got destroyed by the trans movementsomeone once said that introducing the trans shit to autists was like introducing crack to the ghettos and i can't think of a better way of putting it
If piraka is the matoran version of nigger do you think piraker would be the matoran version of nigga?
>>11806934>someone once said that introducing the trans shit to autists was like introducing crack to the ghettoslol goddamn, so true. The poor autists never stood a chance
>>11807017I'm an autist, why didn't get effected & tr00n out? If anything I became more masculine...
>>11807039It’s not guaranteed, but if you’re autistic, there’s always a fairly slim chance your special interest will be Gender
takua is trans
>>11806483>when the red star revives you, you will be you default self.Wasn't it confirmed that when a character gets revived on the Red Star they keep the latest shape they had before death? Like, in one of the unfinished serials there was that rebuilt Matoran with wings who could teleport. I forgot his name.
>>11807113And him turning into Takunuva is detransitioning back into a guy.
>>11806934>hrt to autism like crack to blackstruke
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>>11807145Do troons think anything undergoing change is a trans allegory? Do they understand the very nature of the world is change?
>>11807168I don’t think most troons even think
>>11806571Unity, duty and destiny.Bionicle is a religious setting, your troon delusions are blasphemous, it does nothing to help the great spirit.Stop denying your destiny.
>>11807168Of course not. They just want to “claim” anything as theirs, specially if it ruins everything in the process.
>>11807735This but unironically. Any attempt of revival in this current mad world is bound to ruin it. Either by pandering to minorities, by political allegories or by complete retards that want people to read their ideas that know nobody would without a famous brand.Look at Star Wars and you will see death is a mercy over your body being dug up and used as a skin suit.
>check this thread after a few days>troon troon troon troonI see.
>>11807845I checked it out just now out of curiosity, but the annoying "quirky" voice made me want to turn it off about 30 secs in.
The total lack of pink bionicle (or even technic) pieces is FUCKING my dream to make a 90s matoran.I think I could do an 80s matoran, though, out of black, purple, medium blue, and some yellow highlights
>>11807812Sometimes I wonder why I even bother checking here. With no functional replacement or continuation to the theme, this place just degrades further with schizos screeching
>>11807923>troonposting>hornyposting>notreplyingtomyMOCspostingYeah I’m thinking it’s cooked
>>11807812>>11807923back to r*ddit then I guess?
>>11807923PirakaPostinghttps://youtu.be/jZCYAXYG2fM?si=EvVUudAAonuIT-UW
>Barraki literally dominated the world once>the moment they are out of the Pit they start reconquering islands, discovering secret bases, piecing together Teridax’s plan and tracking down the Virus he used>>>hurr durr I THINK (you don’t) that the Piraka are stronger
>>11807923I've found that it's best to just talk about things you like when it randomly pops up off-topicly on other boards.
>>11806987i think it's evident piraka is just "pirate". especially consider that's basically what the piraka arei think during the golden age hurling that at someone was basically an insult
>>11808030Yeah the Barraki are actually some of the strongest villains we see outside of the Brotherhood and Dark Hunter top brass. Piraka had retard strength and caught the Toa Nuva off guard, the Toa Mahri didn't really even defeat the Barraki, Jaller was about to suicide before Matoro (pbuh) saved them with Mask of Life cheats.
>>11808110>>11808030Just their base powers kinda suck vs the Pirakas insane ass powers, just maybe they aren’t as interesting
>>11808126Skakdi are Makuta experiments so of course they'd have whack ass powers, the Barraki are just strong as fuck and have evil warlord charisma. The fact that Nocturn was only a lieutenant while having the power to crack islands in half says a lot about the Barraki's capability as warlords.
>>11808030all the power scaling post 2004 is retarded look at some of the visorak powers, the hordika beating a dozen of them, let alone an entire horde of them, is completely nonsensical considering how fucked up they already wereand it only gets more goofy from there in the later years
>>11807923i ran out of mocs
>>11808177I had almost every set up and including 2007, but I had no idea about the lore and all the retarded powers.Any story element after the bohrok comic books, and the mask of light and metru nui movie was just in my blind spot, it literally didn't exist to me.
This guy is still trucking along.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8re84QnnxMY
>>11808191i guarantee whatever backstory you came up with the sets yourself was better than the clusterfuck that was going on in 2004-2010, and i only caught the tail end of 2003 as a kidstill have a soft spot for 2004 though
>>11808110>>11808126It’s more of a matter of planning too. The Barraki were all monster tamers and could make truces. The Piraka were all trying to backstab each other for any bit of personal power they could find aside Zaktan, whose big difference was he knew you need help in the long run and even then he needed to quell rebellions constantly.Fight a Skakdi 1v1 and you are dying. Fight a Barraki 1v1 and you have a time limit for reinforcements to arrive.Matoro lucked out the Ignika gave him necromancy as a test because that gave him an immortal pocket army whenever needed because the moment the numbers got overwhelming Jaller was gonna suicide bomb.
>>11808191I remember back they at least bothered justifying why the Rahkshi got demoted to mook-tier. They gave us CDs and all with the sets explaining the Rahkshi and kraata have levels, so basically the 6 anti-Toa Rahkshi sets we got were the highest level that Makuta prepared specifically to oppose virtues and elements (like poison capable of killing goddamn fire). Hell, those guys even came with weird bonus powers like being empowered in the darkness in the Mask of Light movie.And basically most Rahkshis you find elsewhere were lower level ones that couldn’t compare.I don’t remember if the Visorak got any treatment like that.
>>11808316it's still a little weird that the fresh toa metru were duking it out with rahkshi in the archives and winning, even if said rahkshi were effectively just beefed up rahi int wisei don't think we ever got a real excuse for why the visorak didn't just immediately kill the hordika, 2005 was entirely a filler year because lego decided they actually did want to use metru nui again but not go with the og plans for metru year 2
Ga-Matoran girls!
>>11808191You were pretty much right to. I followed things for a bit longer but as I've gotten older I've just chosen to disregard everything after Mask of Light and replace it with my own fanfic headcanon.MY Toa Nuva never jobbed to the Piraka, certainly.
>>11798855I have a dark/light orange turaga, though I forgot to get the correct lower body connector.
>>11808568Finally some good fucking coombait
I need to experiment with more bricks, got a lot of pipes from lowes so 30 feet total of pneumatics for technic
>>11808568i see you have also adopted that style of matoran buildit feels a bit cliche to use, but damn if it doesn't look great
>>11808890Yeah its hardly original, but the end result is pretty nice
Does this old concept art imply that at some point it was considered that new matoran would "grow" out of masks or something like that?
>>11808985I don't think it implies growing out of masks, just a more "yin yang" type of deal.
>>11808985The Toa and Bohrok truly are brothers
>>11808968>>11808650Is the dark orange mask painted or knockoff? Looks like a painted piece there. Also Turaga of Iron?
Who made this? I like the concept of building a sexy moc using only pieces from an official set, it seems like a good challenge
>>11809218it's a knockoff in the style of the mnog pakari
>>11809245Jesus christ that’s a Fem Krekka
>>11809218A knockoff made and painted by a seller on Etsy (https://www.etsy.com/listing/1765042189/kanohi-mask-2001-style-on-demand), it's thick, but looks close enough. Fits a little tight. My other knockoffs are better. I just needed a unique design beyond the main 12.
>>11808985no, i think it's just supposed to mean that the matoran/ toa/ turaga had the same origin as the bohroklooking at this makes me lament that we didn't get the big spiders either, imagine how sick they would look with the bohrok 'eggs' on their backs like in the mural
>>11809245Retarded
>>11809245I don't really get these poorly made "sexy" MOCs. Don't the builders see these look like shit? Like, this one is so stiff and blocky. And why are the boobs always so high up? My guess is that part of these are just made as a "joke", and the other ones are "token female side characters" in the OCdonutsteel fantasy world of some autistic Bionicle fan who simply just doesn't give a shit. Because if it was made by/for coomers there would be a lot more attention to proportions, shapes, silhouette, details etc. I mean it needs to reach a certain level for your brain to register it as the body of a curvy woman. Though I've also seen a lot of "sexy" MOCs with a lot of effort put into shaping and silhouette that still looked horrible and cringeworthy.
>>11809527I think you’re looking too far into it. Some people just make something that is decent enough to be recognizable (hey thats a coomer MOC!) but not nearly good enough to be… Good. (hey it still looks like shit!
>2001 era makuta is closer to a god or a force of nature than anything else>turns out it's just a guy>there's more of him except they hardly do anything>they're evil because...they're evilwhat a disappointment.
>>11809836iirc the og concept for him was that he was some kind of virus, i assume this is where his antidermis form came from in 2006/7as you might expect, everything about him post 2004 was farshtey at the wheel
>>11809836>>11809865To anyone who has the Magna Leak downloaded. Can you give me a quick rundown on Bob Thompson's "seven books of Bionicle"?
>>11807168insects are a trans allegory
>>11809963Normal male/female puberty is a trans allegory
>>11809836I still hate that Makuta became a guy for Takanuva to 1v1 in a big robot form.Probably doesn't help that the set sucks too I guess.
>>11810033There are the Toa and the Toa Nuva and then everything after that is just mental illness
>>11810240toa metru are arguably as aesthetically pleasing as the og toa thoughjust ignore almost everything else about them
My parents despite being able to afford bionicle didn’t spoil me because they wanted me to learn the value of money and spending wisely. After spoiling me and my sister before I learned of bionicles.I think they failed on that front because I want to buy some bionicles.Most I’ve got (assembled) are some mata nui models and I recall a bohrok and the rest are in pieces for MOC and others just put into pieces because the sockets got cracks in them.Seriously I hate cracked sockets.So with that blogpost how do you guys organize your pieces?
>>11797115Sorry if this is common but I sometimes feel bad looking back on bionicles.It was a great toyline and oddly enough the story is better and deeper than I remember.I just feel sad that the years have gone by.Anyways what’s the general consensus on perfect tier accurate knockoff bionicle toys?Think recasts of bionicles parts.Hopefully the tech is better now so cracks are less likely to appear.
>>11810259i would prefer authentic but lego is never going to make more molds of the old parts againafaik most of them have been out of their parts catalogue for 10+ years at this point recasts are a necessity, maybe not mandatory yet but in the future they're going to be what mocs have to rely on
>>11810263>>11810259Any of them able to do a part or two in magenta? I got one of those ben ten magenta hands. Also it sucks how theres 0 official pink technic parts outside of 10 (ten) total pieces from one set
>>11810270some of the custom mask guys on etsy might, i know the reclamation guy has stuff in pretty much every colour lego has done, although he's mostly known for his blind boxes of imperfect masks
>>11810275Including Milky White? Or some of the fucky grays. Also how much does it cost to comm him, hundreds? More?
>>11810263>>11810270>>11810275Even though my first bionicle was vezok now in pieces I still feel like what 40k autists would call a “secondary” as I engaged with a lot of bionicle’s story on the website through comics online and the flash games etc.Please understand my neighborhood I grew up in didn’t have many boys my age to hang out with so I was no different from an iPad kid.I do want to revisit bionicle again. Have all the comics been scanned properly?I had what the kids call the dream and it was me in a store reading bionicle comics so I’m a little nostalgia hurt at the moment.
>>11810278the blind boxes of 3 masks are $15 cadhe's got some pics on his listing that might have the milky white you mentioned i found him by looking up 'custom bionicle masks' on google but his etsy store is '0m3g4sKanohiForge'cool guy, gave me a bonus mask when i ordered 2 sets
>>11810282>Etsy sellerMan I was hoping he was a Chinese or Russian vendor with a website keeping bionicle plastics flowing through “accurate bootlegging” if that makes sense.
>>11810280bionicle's story is such a clusterfuck to follow that following more than one medium puts you ahead of most of the casual fans who generally only engaged in one of the many mediums asides from the sets biomedia project should have all the comics, listed in numerical and year released, along with the books, games, and other bits of media
>>11810286Any particular ones it is missing right now?My internet is a bit slow and oddly enough this place works fine.
>>11810285the insides of the masks look a bit iffy but the outsides look almost as good as the authentic ones, maybe a tad less glossy you can feel the difference though, due to the different material used
>>11810287i don't think so, the site's been around for a number of years it might not have the movies due to legal reasons though
i wanted to make a proper makuta set since 2016i combined all the uniters, the creatures and umarak (and one extra chestplate)i used the head design from syoya
>>11810241Not straight on they aren't.>arms sticking connected to an axle>that fucking waistNot to mention their arms are worse than the mata/nuva when it comes to articulation. They have articulated elbows because the shoulder is fixed to the gear function. Always annoyed me as a kid when I actually played with them that I had to remove their arms to connect them again at a different angle to hold stuff with two hands and what not.
>>11810240I categorically refuse to ever seriously use the term "Toa Mata".
>>11809245>fridge body>shoulders wider than hips>gigachin>jutting adam's apple>receding hairline>ridiculous bolt-ons>flat assWow, I guess Bionicle really is trans coded.
>>11810241I sort of dig the Merry designs, they’re probably the last Toa designs I can actually appreciate. But I just meant the story/lore. You can’t beat the mysterious, stone-age Polynesian island vibes. An extended flashback to a space-age city revealing that, in fact, every character is not an islander at all, but some high tech goober with amnesia — “this is not a banger”
>>11810504*metru designs
I actually liked brown sets, they were some of my favorite.
>>11810645Hey, look at that Toa, isn’t that something?
>>11810645I feel like everyone knows pohatu is lowkey the GOAT
>>11810645in my opinion, Brown and Blue should have been the female colors. >excellent choice sir, and will you be having the blue tomboy toa or the brown tomboy toa today?
>>11810721Well perhaps, but that's no reason to resort to nigger acronyms.
>>11810709>"WOW, Brown!"What episode is that from?
Post your favorite combiners/alt buildsFor me it's tough to decide whether I like Bohrok Fusion or Zyglak more
>>11810825I believe it’s the episode where Milhouse’s mom doesn’t want her son hanging around Bart anymore. She thinks Bart is a bad influence. I believe the A-plot is Homer accidentally saving the nuclear plant from a meltdown and feeling like a fraud when he’s lauded for his heroism.
>>11810645onewa metru is my favourite of the bunch despite arguably being the weakest of themnostalgia may or may not play a part in that
Bionicle aint coming back.>6 new molds for masks>6 new molds for weapons>6 new molds for armourThats 18 new moulds per wave at the bare minimum. It aint happening bros :(
>>11810894give Bionicle licence to McFarlane instead
>>11810939>Jonkla, Toa of CHAAOOOOOSSSS
>>11810894>>6 new molds for armourWhen have Bionicle featured 6 distinct pieces of armor amongst canisters sets?I do think masks and tools deserve unique molds. I know recolors usually count as separate elements due to the the different plastics, but if that wasn't a factor, or if they just used paint, they could get away with one mold, possibly, for a set of colors.
>>11810939Kino
>>11810939>Im dah Toah, baby
>replaying mnog>great spirit robots head on the telescope>that metallic layer the onu-matoran hit in their minesSo when did people start to figure out what Mata Nui actually was anyway?I was out of the fandom by the time the reveal happened due to being a teenager.
>>11811308afaik 2006 is when people really starting putting all clues together, but i don't think it anyone 100% got it until the reveal happened
Is this safe for the rubber bands?
>>11811838Post-2001 rubber bands (the smooth kind with a round cross-section) are basically immortal in my experience.
So, just so we're all up to date on the Toa Code:>mask that lets you force someone to do whatever you want against their will: totally a-okay
>mask that literally just pushes stuff or pushes you away from stuff: LE BAD because... it just is okay???
I always figured that the Masks weren’t ‘evil’ or ‘good’ in and of themselves. Its how you use the powers that matter. >mind control maskIf used to stop an evil being from inflicting further harm, yes that is good.>pushing maskIf used to push Matoran down a bottomless pit, yes that is bad.
Surprised there aren’t more Yoshi type mounts, or something like tread foots for creatures to ride in Bionicle, same with Vehicles, maybe even mixing the two together>>11812149Toa hate Rocket Jumpers
>>11812219A random matoran had a mask that fucking ages you to death, I think allowing a few more Crasts to be made for something like a construction worker or a po-worker should be fine, just giving a few people physguns
>>11812149>>11812219>>11812237Something about "the Crast repels nature so it's bad" which is stupid because they made Krika one of the Makuta to question and ultimately oppose Teridax. Honestly the near total genocide of the Makuta species, even the ones that went against Teridax in the end is one of the stupider story beats of Bionicle. Krika and Icarax running around with parallel universe light Teridax on Bara Magna would have been cool, but fuck me I guess.
>>11812147Why are all the mid-masks so much better than the so-called Great masks? Invisibility? Mind control? Telekinesis? Nah, I’ll take X-ray vision please
>>11812243They didn’t my wigga to succeed…
>>11812245Catch me with my Akaku in Ga-Koro, knowhatimsayin
>>11812234>Surprised there aren’t more Yoshi type mountsDoes the Keras count? I recently built it since I'm trying out all Bohrok combiners and it's meant to be some kind of aquatic ussal with a saddle to be ridden by a tohunga, works pretty nice
>>11812252Looks like a yes, strange at how many ridable crabs there are in Bionicle
>>11812255
Speaking of "rideable" rahi I saw this stupid bird moc online so I decided to reverse engineer it since I couldn't find instructions, it's pretty neat and buildable from just one Nui Jaga which is good because I only have the blue one
>>11812272Here's the inner build if anyone's interested
>>11812219I was referring more to Greg's brainfarts about how Toa were supposed to be morally opposed to wearing masks that we know mostly from being worn by Makuta, wherein he gave retarded nonsense reasons like >>11812243.>repels natureWhat the fuck is that even supposed to mean, seriously? So does a fucking leafblower.
>>11812245>allYeah I'd much rather have slightly better low-light vision or the ability to read obscure dialects than unlimited Flash-tier super-speed.Both sets have their shit/situational masks, the Noble masks just hit that extreme as hard as they do the useful one. The Great masks are also more general boosts rather than focused triggered effects.
>>11812279>>11812272Got brains for feet
>>11812272>>11812279Cool use of the Mata brain stalks
Does anyone remember the seventh Bohrok? I saw it again in a dream and I know that Seven Toy Theory is a good litmus test for those who remember the prior uni vs those who were naturalized or worse, literally born in this one. I think its interesting that the ‘hunt for the seventh toa’ and the ‘seventh’ toa himself were still included in this uni but the bohrok dreams we shared kinda proves that in the original timeline every faction had a seventh member which is frustrating, since we can all agree on this fact but basically no other retcons come to mind, like if Hitler survived or that thing in India that happened before but hasn’t happened now. you know?
>>11812288How dare you say that to me.But also, if you could swap any mask powers around, what would you do? I feel like Kopaka with telekinesis kind of fits
>>11812325Why would I want to think of India, still a Bohrok of Light would be cool
>>11812325Cool fan fiction!
>>11812353I feel like there's some redundancy in the default assignments. Much like the mentioned already-shit Ruru being worn by someone who already sees in the dark as a racial bonus anyway, we've got the Kaukau worn by someone who can hold her breath a ridiculously long time and the Miru on someone who can use his power over air to slow his descent anyway. Maybe give Gali the Komau since she's big into influencing others and Lewa the Huna to play into the whole jungle hunter thing.>Oh, sort of like that movie, Predator. Only instead of hunting people he's crapping. I actually like having the Akaku on Kopaka because it plays into his sort of pragmatism, he doesn't need anything too flashy.>>11812361If you think about it, all Bohrok are Bohrok of Light.
>>11812422Okay, I didn't hit enter there, but you know what I meant.
>>11812149the evil looking masks were a stupid idea and restrict creativity, especially when they're awkward to use in general like the mistika makuta ones
>>11812245according to the deign docs invisibility was originally intended to be a great mask power and shielding was a noble one
>>11812422Predator Lewa would be GOATed
>>11812422you also have to remember that the power level on mata nui was pretty lowthe mask powers were more useful than outright powerful like in later years some even became outright redundant like the miru, akaku, and huna to the kadin, great ruru, and voltiak
>>11812483While it is true that a lot of the later masks were outright overpowered, I think it's more that the earlier masks were just simpler concepts. Something like super-strength or super-speed isn't as involved as astral projection or whatnot, but it's not any less powerful for it. As time went on they had to use more complex powers since the old ones were either taken or had been used in a non-mask form. Of course, since the original Great masks' powers (and those of the Noble ones, if you take MNOG and the Bohrok animations as entirely canonical [which I do, and you're a fag if you don't, regardless of what Greg said]) ended up combined into the Golden masks anyway, giving the wearer free access to any single one of those powers at a time, it's not so much of a big deal if a couple of them are pure utility or underpowered.
>>11812507i personally prefer the lower power level masks along with the idea that they had limitations the hau for example could only be used when stationary according to the design docsi don't count the golden masks as being regular ones, as they are clearly a special case
>>11811838This was the best combiner. It wasn't just a standard Bohrok function head with stuff built around it, it actually had a new head. It looked like it could be its own stand alone set.
>>11812579>standard Bohrok function head with stuff built around itIt will never not amuse me that this particular combiner's "Akamai"-coloured counterpart was literally just a regular Bohrok but with big fat massive cartoon punching arms each the size of the rest of its body.
Why are they like this
>>11812620their existence is entirely based on being validated by others, which makes them giga attention whores
>>11812620Ironically, it has actually learned how to take a picture of an object just the way a real woman would.>>11812623>picFor fuck's sake, anon, this is a blue board.
>>11812620Basically they grew up with all the same stuff we did, are also autistically obsessed with it, but need to warp it to fit their religion. Because their religion is very important to them, even if it annoys normal people and other autists.
>>11812620What do you mean?
>>11812620Not to be cruel, but I’d probably save my bionicle money and spend it on a de-5-o’clock-shadow-ing procedure first and foremost. Also the preeminence of troons in every autistic hobby space online must be studied.
>>11812679Or, y'know, washing its fucking hair.
>>11812692Hair doesn’t look dirty to me, just very dry
>>11812693Well I don't mean washing in the literal sense of hot water + shampoo but rather in the sense of washing it in the way that actual women do, with conditioner and whatever chick stuff. I've had long hair before and it's still fucking unmanageable using regular guy methods regardless of how good your hygiene is (which obviously should not be taken as a given with anyone posting their MOCs on reddit, or here for that matter).
>>11812698Women do be going buck wild on their hair and makeup and shit
That seems like a completely normal looking woman, why are you guys so upset?
>>11812705She has a bigger bionicle collection than I do :^(
>>11812620Insanity, pink is a danger color tooAnyways trying to find the pic of the 2003 Matoran I made with a prosthetic leg entirely done out of black bricks and in scale, will post it again when I find it
>>11812620I feel a deep primal urge to murder him , to fire an uzi at his balls
>>11812422The Kaukau should have let you breathe in anything as if it were air instead of just breathing underwater, or even just one of its evos, would have been a lot more useful long term and made Gali a sorta poison hard counter, or even shit like her breathing in literal nothing and being fine when facing a Rahkshi of Vacuum maybe, just a small buff to all the original Mata masks that needed it (Hau and Kakuma are fine enough/scalable easily so they get to stay the same)
>>11812763Also something like this would make it useful for those outside of Ga-Matorans and let them have their little water buff without it being useless since it can now be used by a Po-Toa to breathe the dirt while tunnelling or a Ta-Toa while under lava, the Akaku and Miru are the two others targeted by buffs but the Miru is letting others fly with you in levitating and the Akaku is super wallhacks or seeing injuries on allies/enemies too, would have spoiled them on the Bahrag potentially but just saying he didn’t notice until too late should be fine for that. Thoughts?
>>11812766>>11812763Also for the Kaukau if you think its too op like that, just making it “Breathe ANYTHING but air” like the gills potion from Terraria used to work be a good compromise, with Gali being able to naturally breathe longer synergising too with it>>11812422Anyways as I was thinking, make the Bohrok of Light White and Gold, or Yellow and Silver to more closely match the others, since real light schemes are a bit hard to write
>>11812766the problem with the miru is that the kadin is just more useful in almost every situation due to it being straight up flightthe only way i can see it being useful is if it could target the levitation onto something elseand the akaku is made redundant by the great ruru because that give night vision + x ray
>>11810270>>11810278Kennie on aliexpress makes a lotthough not all mask designscolor includes magentathey're injected molded ABS, so same plastic as legoI bought a few haus and kraahkans from him like 2 years ago
>>11812775Yeah I was suggesting Miru being able to levitate other shit too, also Onua’s mask stays the same just general strength is good enough
>>11812775>>11812780Also to differentiate them maybe giving the ruru constant 20/20 vision at any distance alongside perfect night vision but no or an extremely limited x ray, and the akaku uber x ray as stated before but no night vision aka dark caves are still dark or if you look behind a door it’s dark but you can wallhax/look inside others normally, all this is hypothetical
>>11812776I still think about getting a pearl gold avohkii and vahi. My original parts aren't doing so well these days.
>>11812776Does he offer regular parts too? Like hands or joints? Or is it dumb to ask for picrel in magenta
>>11812776>med blue hunavery tempting, i have a lazy naho moc that uses a noble huna
>>11806410Regular Kolhii Balls cost only 1 widget in MNOG2, but those were the new, smaller style with a more complex construction, so that could impact the price in either direction. They might also have been discounted since they were being sold to a player in the middle of a big tournament, and of course the Comet was an overpriced premium model (but not so much it was impossible to sell).All in all, I estimate the market value of one Husi would be in the 5-10 widget range, which is about the price of an Air Bladder, or 50-100 bamboo discs, or 2-5 Lightstones, or 1-2 nails. Mata Nui had a strange economy.
>>11812799>med blue... You mean light blue?Just because Lego is retarded and colourblind in their "official" colour names doesn't mean we have to be.
Since when can Toa freely form a Kaita? I thought it only happened that one time because of those chambers in Mangaia
>>11812799The whole Great/Noble masks having different shapes thing has always been retarded on several levels and was an unnecessary retcon added when Great and Noble had their meanings altered to mean Toa and Turaga power-levelled masks rather than referring to those two specific groups of six masks eachI guess what I'm saying is that you needn't worry about it
>>11812579I built most of the Bohrok combiners, I'd say this combiner (which I've nicknamed "El Monstruo") is either 2nd place or sharing the first place with the japanese combiner, which while lacking function just looks fucking cool
>>11812812it makes life easier to refer to the lego colours as the colour lego calls them even if they're wrong in the grand scheme of thingsit causes the least amount of confusioni have a lot to say when it comes to colours due to doing a lot of scale modeling, but this isn't the thread for it
>>11812813Does it actually matter? It's not like there was ever a single Toa Kaita other than Akamai and Wairuha so much as even mentioned anywhere outside of some Dark Hunter donut steel's description, so the only thing defining it is Greg spouting stupid shit online in the same manner as JKR (pbuh) talking about wizards shitting their robes.
>>11812815while i agree that great masks arbitrarily becoming noble masks is dumb, i do still like the look of the metru masksa black one could also be useful for a toa tehutti or one of the voyatoran
>>11812818>farshtey is bionicles jkrdamn i never thought of it like that
>>11812818That just makes me wonder why they didn't use it more>Against the Bahrag>Against the Rahkshi>Against the Piraka>Against Brutaka
>>11812825I mean they kind of didn't need it against the Bahrag, the only reason they had any trouble was because they were relying on the Exo-Toa suits. Soon as they got out and started using their powers they won, so there wasn't even an opportunity for them to think of it.Everything else though... yeah. Only other time they formed a Kaita was so a powerless Wairuha Nuva could make a one-page appearance to get gigamogged by >>11811838.
>>11812825>bahragi assume that's because they were going to use the exo toa before realizing they were useless and it wasn't really necessary because the bahrag went down pretty quick all things considered >rahkshigood question, i guess tahu getting poisoned prevented akamai from being formed but there was no excuse why wairuha couldn't >pirakafarshtey is a hack and went out of his way to make the nuva job as hard as possible to actual shitters, their loss makes no sense and they shouldn't have even needed to form the kaita to smoke them>brutakaiirc they were totally wiped after losing to the piraka and weren't stable enough to form them
>>11812272>>11812279TY anon. I've been putting off building a bird mount for my Toa of Plantlife and I could probably stand to have some inspiration.
>>11812832Reminder that he had the Nuva literally just keep directly attacking the one guy who kept getting up no matter what while they were getting picked off one by oneLike not one of them tried to throw him in the ocean to get him out of the way or anything, just hit him
>>11812272>>11812279>Gukko chickVery cute.>>11812838Thank you for calling it Plantlife.
>>11812832I'll never forgive Farshtey for putting Takanuva in the bin immediately after 2003.
>>11812840>Thank you for calling it Plantlife.Mentally I tend to call it "Nature" as I've been doing since I built the first version of the MOC back in the Nuva days, but I try to use the official terminology when discussing it with others.
>>11812865Well I meant cuz last I checked the "official" name was "tHe GrEeN" like this is fucking DC and I really just have no patience for that kind of banality.
>>11812867Huh, did not know that. Kind of neat since DC published the comics and they showed up in a view of the DC multiverse one time. I think I still prefer Plantlife in this particular context, though.
>>11812871Hey I don't mind a reference, I just think it's kinda cringe to steal the term wholesale. Especially when it doesn't fit the format of power names at all.Anyway, if we're thinking of the same thing, the Bionicle reference was in an issue of the Spectre, during the Hal Jordan era. Decent run, but then I'l read anything starring Hal.
Dunno about a seventh Bohrok but does this count as a seventh Visorak?
The whole "holy shit a 7th Toa" thing is funny in hindsight. There being other Toa teams and just random solo Toa around that aren't on Mata Nui or Metru Nui for... reasons really ruins it.
>>11812946Yeah I really don't like how Toas became more like superheroes the more it went on, any shitter could be a Toa instead of being those mythical beings they were in the Mata Nui sagaI'm fine with Matoran becoming Toa, but it has to be earned like Takua doing all sorts of things across the first 3 years
While building Bohrok combiners I added this tweak to the japanese combiner using leftover pieces from the base setsThis way the two windshields don't restrict posing since they don't need the arms to support them anymoreIt's also compatible with both standard green bohrok rubber bands, and the shorter white ones
Did Greg hate Takua?Everything special about him got robbed from him then he got sidelined.>defeat makuta>it doesnt matter or was a part of le secret plan>7th toa>there are loads of toa around a 7th one doesn't matter>toa of light>he's actually a matoran of light so he couldn't have become anything elseAt least he didn't got to Voya Nui and job too like the Nuva I guess.
>>11812978The worst part is that we never got Takanuva joining the Inika/Mahri as the new white member, imagine making Jaller a toa and not making him fight side by side with Takanuva
>>11812981>TakaNUVALiterally right there in the name, he's still a member of the Toa Nuva (team) even if he's not himself a Toa Nuva (protodermis powerup), much like Tahu after the end of the main story. Hard as Fartsey tried to split the party, there's still ironically a lot of stuff in 2006 that specifically reinforces his Nuva status. Like when Dume said that Takanuva had to stay behind when they were leaving and Tahu complained that they'd be down 1/7th of their strength, or when the insane canister builder says that they only made Toa canisters (specifically designed for use by the six Toa of legend, or "Mata" if we must) in sets of 6 because making a 7th one would imply that there was a 7th Toa who had need of it and that'd mean that shit's fucked fampai.
>>11812620What does the MOC look like?
>>11812769A bit hard to think of your Kaukau as OP when other Toa have, say, the power to run at lightspeed
>>11813125Since the only part of it I can see clearly is some tirenigger faggotry around what I assume is a wrist... probably not good.
>>11812981This, we should have gotten them going on adventures on Bara Magna but the most we got from the Mahri/Inika was the Gold Skin Being brainwashing them and then they just kinda wander off after and the plus got pulled.
>>11813125>>11813255
>>11812937>the same parts as the other 6 sets that were just different colors... but gold!In hindsight, how did they get away with this for 10 years
>>11813306The same shit but in gold feels cool, especially if it's a little harder to acquireThat stuff's treasure when you're a kid
>>11813146Look I think the potential ability to george floyd somebody at will isn’t to be taken lightly
>>11813316Don't mind me I'm just grabbing the occasion to post this image
>>11812812>>11812817That and we technically do have a real Light Blue, just it’s locked to Belville and Duplo prison forever sadly (picrel)Also we naturally got to bump, nice
>>11813267>>11812992>>11812978Takunuva underwater being a living spotlight would be nice, though I wonder if his name would revert to Takua or not, same with having an Inika Takua and how that would look
>>11813326damn those colors do not look good on a Toa
>>11813329Wonder what Matoran pallets would look good on a Toa then, since I have a big stockpile of them
>>11812978afaik apparently makuta threw the fight with takanuva because he was genuinely scared that takanuva would straight up kill him with his light powers if they fought for real
>>11813329i think the issue is distributiontakua had a med blue mask, red body and arms, and yellow feet as a tohunga, and blue legs/ feet when rebuilt a red body/ arms, yellow legs/ feet and the med blue mask might look alrightif not then his rebuilt colours might work, even if there's more of a contrast due to the blue
>>11813405Well that sucks, since I made it lol, but at least it brings convo lol
>>11813459Oh, at least it allows me to ask what's the deal with that chrome gold disc on his chest
>>11813473Wanted to include a bit of gold because >light element, and having it be like simplified armor was my idea, tried to think of other weapons for a Toa of light besides just giving him the sports staff but as his hand (Magnifying Glass on a staff is my best one, but making him go all in on being a defence class with giving him a big mirror shield likely would be nice too), that was my thought process
>>11813459Sorry anon, but I agree with >>11813405He should have a red torso and red arms, and yellow legs and feet, with the standard black joints.But it's mainly that the default Toa body isn't terribly exciting.
>>11813306This was before Ninfago gave everyone gold fatigue.
>>11813405>>11813329Technically, his Tohunga mask was teal, everyone just used light blue because it was actually available and it got kind of codified with his rebuilt form. So, y'know, it's even worse.
>>11813489Not just gold, but transparent parts as wellDesigns like the Uniters just feel grotesque to me, barely any of their main colors are present
>>11813326Also I feel for Inika or even Mahari Takua/Takunuva, making his weapons and armor plate out of Reddish Gold from Knights Kingdom is the best fit I can come up with him, with the Toa Tool he uses being a shotgun I would guess, with yellow light being its color. If I would have a different color for him though it would be the closest approximation to Platinum then, aka maybe Metallic Sand Blue, but that’s stretching it
>>11813492So Teal and Yellow+Red would be a good pallet
>>11813500I was thinking about marbled yellow+red, or at least marbling two of his three colors
Toa Takua should also implement some things from Pewku I feel like, and he should definitely have a staff or hammer weapon, not a sword.
>>11813501Oh damn that sounds good, but mainly for his torso or for more of his body in general? Not seen much marbling outside of masks and maybe weapons so that would be a big step up
>>11813508No clear idea, but if I had to say for his body overall? iirc some of the Inika having marbling on their armor
>>11813514Oh yeah they did, still marbling the armor mainly is how it would likely go
>>11812840>>11812865Plantlife as a element was probably one of the dumber things Greg came up with. He probably just copied Pokemon typings. Compared to Water, Fire, Air, etc. it's just so out of place. Controlling living things is not an element, it would have been better as a mask power.
>>11812798I think he has sockets, but anything requiring more intricate pieces like masks and these would be more difficult to manufacture.His metal molds come from 3D model files, which need to be way more detailed and accurate to what's on studio. I believe the models he has are 3D scans of the actual masks and then touched up to be as accurate as possible, and were provided by other people.
>>11813326Yellow feet or nah?
>>11813533
>>11813526Meanwhile Techromancy is only a mask/kraata power https://bionicle.fandom.com/wiki/Mask_of_Biomechanics which is dumb, especially since it was given to a literally who piraka looking motherfucker
>>11813533>>11813539I like the yellow feet accent>>11813532How do his hand parts look, any roughness?
>>11813526i think he just wanted some more exotic types for whatever reasoniirc they're first mentioned in 2006 in the piraka prequel book, where he and a bunch of other toa were killed because they were guarding the makoki stone lihkan was there too, for whatever reason
>>11813547Seems like it's the newer type of socketsI never bought any of these, but the masks I bought were pretty high quality, apart from some marking and excess plastic where the sprue was attached for the haus.
>>11813533Yellow, yes, skeetorange, hard no.Sadly, that is the only shade of yellow available for that piece, and only the angleshit variant to boot.
>>11813563Shame
>>11813573Yeah, I think that works.
even greg said the barraki would lose in a 6v6 against the piraka because the piraka are just fuck-off powerful. reidak alone could solo three of them at a time and apparently his adaptation ability is potentially permanent meaning there's no telling what attacks will do literally nothing to him. thok could make their armor and weapons come to "life" and attack or choke them. vezok pre-split was probably a better tactician than all the barraki, and regardless of whether it's pre or post-split vezok he could just copy their best powers for himself + his own abilities were already strong on their own. hakann took out like three toa nuva in a matter of seconds, could just shoot them with his lava launcher or mental blast/heat vision from a distance. avak's prison power could just execute someone and there's nothing they could do about it. and zaktan simply cannot be killed by normal means.
>>11813637so why the fuck did mata nui need piraka inside him forwhat is their biologo-chronicular function that is so necessary for him to fly through space and scan planets?
>>11813642piraka are powerful because they're skakdi + dark hunter training. skakdi are powerful because of makuta experimentation. their island was eventually quarantined because their entire species is unstable and powerful. i don't think mata nui really had a say in skakdi/piraka ascension
>>11813644Why wasn't their island glassed outright?
>>11813655good guys don't kill
>>11813655going to war against the skakdi would probably be a nightmare, and if they were to all unify it would be a huge problem i'd imagine
>>11813637Don’t forget Vezon’s Kinetic absorption
>>11813655>>11813644Skakdi are like africa: barely able to do anything due to constant infighting and being 99% dumb, Makuta maybe made them but whatever, also they have similarities in Toa biology with actually being able to use elements, although weaker due to needing another to really utilise them in a combo, plus not being gender bound on the element as seen with a ga-skakdi (Vezok) being a dude
>>11813675i consider them to be more like eastern europe or the balkans, because each piraka we see is actually particularly intelligent in some way, like avak being a fantastic engineer or zaktan being verbose, vezok being a tactician etc.
>>11813642I always thought the matoran/toa species were created to be the "main" or "chosen" species within mata nui, but given that toa can easily be outclassed and beaten by so many other stronger, random species, not sure if that's actually the case.Is the matoran species actually special, or are all species given equal standing within mata nui.
>>11813687Matorans are red blood cells and Toa are white blood cells, as I understand it.Makuta represent cancer, cells turned bad.
>>11813709What are skakdi then, melanin?
>>11813712bad gas
>>11813712why does this guy want the skakdi to be black so bad
>>11813637I never liked the Piraka solely for that back in the day. Even to my moron child self I felt like they (as in Greg/LEGO) were trying too hard.
>>11813678So they are individual brain cells, or skin pigmentation of Mata Nui
>>11813687Wish visorsk weren’t genocided, same with Vahki. Matorans are just generally good for the system while some of the other insane shit is obviously much more invasive
>>11813759vahki were only genocided because farshtey personally didn't like themnot sure about the visorak but it was likely for similar reasonswhen makuta took over the gsr there could've been a cool moment where the vahki duke it out with the rahkshi, horde army against horde army, and it makes everyone rebelling inside have an excuse to not be immediately overrun or hell, just have the big swarm of goons makuta uses to take over the universe be vahki since presumably those are easier to mass produce than rahkshi
I’ve got the most exciting pieces for my 80s and 90s McTorans. Now to surely wait three weeks for that one package with three boring but indispensable pieces in it.>>11813353Perhaps a 70s, 80s, or 90s colour palette.>>11813573Without proper yellow feet, I do think this is the best route. Yellow is crucial to the build, I’d say.
>>11813800Getting the joints in a proper color is a hard part when designing Matoran beyond tohunga>>11813770Bohrok being in there too, also was lame to make it mainly one rahkshi, wish it were better as a finale, also for there being Vahki past the 6 originals too, man so much missed potential
if i was a makuta i would make rahkshi with big tits
>>11813837You can do that even without being a Makuta
>>11813837I think a rahkshi of lust would be pink and red, because it would be funny
>>11812620Who's this cutie?(nevermind, I checked her account and she has a disproportionately huge Megamind forehead)
>>11813849really, I think she would be black, and have spiked collars, and fishnet stockings, and platform boots
>>11813851Pink and Red and looking normal is funnier for inducing AIEEEEEE I NEED SEEEX I’M GONNA DIE SAVE ME MAKUTAMAN
>>11813800Also are those feet bright yellow? They look like bright yellow
Looks like the one homo who spams out lego threads has gotten even more insane, either that or zat got reactivated, just wish there was somebody else here to nuke all the spam
>>11813909They’re just the regular-ass yellow from the original tohunga
>>11813912>step 1: spam new thread early to stay on top of the catalog>step 2: eat up your replies to bump limit with "Is coffee good for you?"-tier bumpniggering every time the thread drops off page 1 because nobody wants to reply to obvious shilling>step 3: see step 1I still don't see why they had to remove unique poster count.
>>11813925>I still don't see why they had to remove unique poster countit was to hide bot threads, since people would immediately notice one or two posters spitting out replies in a bullshit thread
>>11813912No one cares
>>11803024same, I just recently bought all 6 original toa on ebayunfortunately, no canisters though
>>11813928That and thirdies aka vtumor fans>>11813925It’s all so tiring>>11813956Nice
>>11803024I still want to buy the 2001-2003 sets I missed out on.The turaga, all the rahi, boxor, ect.
>>11813526Eat my ass, plant control has always been cool and Wood is a classical Chinese element. If there can be a Toa of Iron in a world of robot people there can absolutely be a Toa of Plantlife.
>>11813956I still have my original canisters, but sadly I removed the sliding outside dleeve part of the label fairly early on on all of them so it just has the basic "instructions" visible.Been debating for a while whether I should remove those too for completely smooth silver canisters or keep them on for the sake of preservation.>>11814040Being a Toa of Iron must be such massive blue balls. Like, you can just rip an enemy apart with your mind at any time but killing is le bad so you just have to throw whatever metal junk you find lying around at them or ensnare them in cables or something.
>>11814040>greg created toa of iron, magnetism, and gravity>immediately realizes they could single handedly btfo makuta so he kills them all offactively what was the point then?
>>11813526>it would have been better as a mask powerI mean I guess technically it is, since there's apparently masks of elements in general.On that note, it's still such hilarious bullshit that Hewkii got a whole-ass extra elemental power for his mask. Must have been the Ignika's way of apologizing for pushing his Inika form's ugliness to new and exciting extremes to the point that he's the honourary 8th Piraka set.
>>11814044What was the actual point of 90% of his "lore" faggotry in general?
>>11814047if i had to guess it was half to help flesh out the world, and half to make it edgieryou can really notice the tone shift in late 2005/ 2006 when he became head of the story and all of a sudden you get a bunch of literally who's showing up and nothing burger characters dying left and right hell, the early story of 2006 has jaller & co go to hell island while the toa nuva eat shit for no real reason
>>11814052No, it was definitely just to make it edgier. At no point did any of that stuff flesh out the world more, it basically just added irrelevant trivia. It's a "show, don't tell" thing; in this case, for example, rather than, say, a side story starring a Toa of Gravity character, we basically just get told "there are Toa of Gravity".
>>11814057in theory it was for kids to be able to make their own rando toaexcept for the fact that most of the alt toa have colours that are effectively impossible to create due to the colour pallet not having very many, if any, parts in those colours want to make a toa of gravity? eat shit, you're either using the purple pakari or one of onua's extra masks
>>11814059See, now that's just reckless and cruel, why would you *encourage* kids to make their donut steels the most special snowflakes? It's just inviting ridicule on them.
>>11814059Imagine if we still got mask packs or even parts packs with recolors of the new molds for the year.
>>11814059But also yeah very ridiculous to throw in more character options and practically zero actual building options. It's like they actually want you to break out the purple/teal/burnt orange rattlecans and commit paint gore.
>>11814068I have long contended that they were just leaving money on the table by failing to throw in mask packs (even if they would've been unrelated to the story) on later years, although clearly their marketing department disagreed. The Kanoka packs with coloured launchers and maybe even the Rhotuka recolour blind boxes were one thing, but then we get to 2006 and 2007 and it's just straight-up "ammo packs".
>>11814068I wanna see how people would do new Hordika/Igika masks, seriously why does nobody ever attempt to style that>>11814067And then do no donuts allowed for basically anything past 2004, it would have been COOL if we got a Gravity Piraka but we just can’t have nice things, or pallets
>>11814071the disk packs were mostly fine in the context of the story, even if the great disks were just a filler arcthe rhoutuka and various other assorted ammo packs were strait up worthless thoughlego in general was really stingy with recolours after 2004 too, iirc we only got three more in 2007 with deflaik, dekar, and idris, and i'm certain idris was only given one because nobody would buy the karzahni set otherwise
>>11814044For some reason he decided the Kal powers needed to be proper elements and then of course he couldn't just leave out some of them (except vacuum got left out anyway). Iron and Plantlife are just there because Chinese elements.The odd one out that completely baffles me is Psionics. Why suddenly make an element out of something that has never been treated like one, that requires a whole unexplained concept of "psionic energy" to make sense, and that overlaps with a dozen established mask powers and individual abilities?
>>11814078was psionics also the one with the sole male member because 'girls are le nicer' or some shit or am i thinking of lightining
>>11814077Well Karzahni does come with the only Hordika head recolour fucking ever on each of his fat curvy thunder thighs (mounted on inexplicably wide birthing hips).I do have to disagree on Rhotukas, at least in the context of their current year where "every random donut steel has a Rhotuka launcher" was the meta. Least it's an actual semi-proper piece getting recolours. Not defending it as the massive downgrade it is, just saying it's not anywhere near in the same league as literally just coloured plastic balls or more gummy squid to accidentally rip in half trying to make their idiotic completely non-functional launchers work.
>>11814080Yeah, that was the ragetard who fucked up the Zyglak and got his whole tribe R63'd as punishment.
>>11814078Well, at least it fits with most of the other snowflake elements in the category of "too overpowered to ever be allowed to actually be relevant to anything so might as well not be a thing at all".>>11814080Yes.
Are Bohrok Kal worth getting if you already have all Bohrok?
>>11814086Yes.Don't care if they're clones (all Bohrok are), they're still cool as hell.
>>11814086ehthey're neat i guess but not being able to see the krana through the faceplate makes them inferior they are still bohrok though so they're good sets regardless
>>11814086Yes. If nothing else, they make an exquisite upgrade kit to your Exo-Toa to customize it for your favorite pilot. That way they'll be able to use their elemental powers while piloting it, trust!
>>11814084>we wuz peaceful and dindu nuffin till dat psYT boi messed wid our heads an sheeitI'm sure that's what the Niglak told the arresting Glatorian, sure.
>>11814071>>11814075Reminds me, I still need to make a Nynrah Ghost MOC
>>11814075>IgikaI assume you meant Inika, and because they fucking SUCK. Hence why there's so many 3d prints/custom moulds of those masks redone to be more normal.
>>11814099Yes, still I wanna see SOMETHING attempted, even if they are ugly as sin just seeing reps for all eras is better than not. The fact that we get hundreds of Hagah mocs and yet nobody trying to make a new Hordika outside of the original 6 or new Mahari stuff says a lot about society>>11814097Set an alarm>>11814085>>11814078Also due to them being introduced so late it means we have to speculate a lot more on the pallets of them outside of the confirmed one or two powers, maybe vacuum wasn’t given a toa because thats too evil+rahkshi and air. Back on the point that we don’t know any good alt colors for matoran, turaga, toa, anything for them or even skakdi, and how 99% of the other colors will almost guarenteed not be real parts you can access either
Fuck man I just remembered what Midak Skyblasters are named afterCan you imagine naming your weapon after a rando you talked to once years ago and who had fuck all to do with the weapon's conception
>>11814120Sounds like a typical day in Slavland to me
>>11814120Not even a rando who gave you life changing advice I may add, but a rando who told you "Uuuuhhh take a taxi"
>>11814119>airI think that right there is precisely the problem, the thinking was that "vacuum = sucking air" instead of making it an actual power of displacing... well, anything... to create an actual vacuum. Which is at least cool conceptually even if I think it would be stupid to have it as a Matoran/Toa/Turaga element/tribe just like all the other snowflakes.
Clean it all desu
>>11814129I now remember that maid Rahkshii moc and I wonder why a maid Bohrok doesn't exist when the joke is right there
It must be cleaned desu
>>11814120>>11814125Pohatu was the one who came up with the name, so there isn't even any specific onscreen interaction to link it to, just "they were friends trust me bro". Still, I do appreciate that this random trivia at least gives us an implication of the normal, casual peacetime interactions between Matoran and Toa that surely happened but nobody ever bothered to write.
It is time desu
>>11814119Well Hordika-wise I think people tend to just build the heads out of smaller parts rather than printing whole new mutated masks.>>11814129>>11814133>>11814139Cute, and classic.
>>11814127Vacuum is a mask/weapon power, thats why it was on that, making a mini black hole on hit fits for evil stuff
>>11814144They don’t even bother doing them digitally let alone physically, don’t like the freaky animal toa in new colors I guess
Was cleaning out old, old phone, found old pictures of my old Chronicler's Company. Not terribly proud of the lack of sophistication in the designs I was still doing at this point in time (still basically just Inika skeletons), but I think they've got a certain charm, and also working gears. I can post more if anyone wants a throwback.
>>11814163You have pics of the gears working, or even a gif/vid?
>>11814170Nope.Although I guess being able to raise the gear arm over the shoulder without it flopping around is *basically* proof that the arm is light enough for the gear to work properly.
>>11814172Obviously I also apologize preemptively for the immense shittiness in quality of these pictures.
my first bonicle in 20 years (i just got the pirakas and inakas) (why did 14 year old me tell my mom she could give my bionicles away)
>>11814174>Two heads ARE better than one!
>>11814170>>11814172Ah, okay, nevermind, I see what past me did there. Adjustable gear lock on the back for posing. No way Maku in particular could be holding her fishing staff up otherwise. (I still like her better as a Slizer)
Since I'm in my combiner/alt build phase I've been trying out some unofficial ones tooThis Akamai and the accompagnying Wairuha look phenomenal, but I found them very disappointing because they have extremely limited poseability. Can I get some recommendations for better Toa combiners?
>>11814180>>11814173>>11814172man you need a lot of spare parts if you want to get creative huhis it usual to just buy 2nd hand bins full of regular lego and technic?
>>11814250That was basically my go-to for the longest time, yeah. At a certain point I just picked up the habit of scooping up whatever interesting pieces or uncommon colours I could for Technic/Bionicle whenever I was bricklinking something else so my parts selection is a bit better now, especially for teals and yellows.I also just got lucky on a few bulk purchases early on which helped. Some metallic sand blue Toa feet for Kopeke as (poorly and indistinctly) seen in >>11814163, for example, came from a mostly-complete Technic Super Battle Droid.
>>11810823>telling a po-matoran poster not to act brown
>>11814086Yes.
>>11810856Found this on Google
>>11814163>Not terribly proud of the lack of sophistication in the designsI thought these were sick. A simple skeleton, yeah, but you did a good job designing around it. The Mata torso is also way cooler than any Inika-esque torso from later on.I saved a handful of pics you posted way back. I'll be saving the new ones too.
>>11814250I’ve just bulk gathered over the years but its hard finding good technic bulk, let alone proper bionicle stuff at a right price
Tried the Giga Nigga combiner, it's so stupid looking I kinda find it endearing in a way. Also the poseability on this thing is actually way better than I thought it'd be
>>11814651Is there a combiner for all 6 bohrok
>>11814665Officially no, though there exist combiner mocs for all 6, or even all 12 + VasI don't own all of the Kals or Vas and don't own enough regular bohroks to subsitute the Kals though, so I can't build everything
>Have to destroy the thing I built to create something newSo this is how a God feels...
>>11814700Starting to see the funny nothingman's point, aren't you?
>>11812760Found it>>11814700You have to get used to doing all this sometimes
>>11814651This and the other one made good use of the parts in different ways to make the torso frame. They also used basically every piece and had very little left over. The Bohrok parts were really versatile.
>>11814779For how much I like the Bohrok Kaitas in certain ways, I feel like the Kal Kaitas were much better executed, even if the first was just a Bohrok with big arms and the second one a little too short, with how threatening it looks it'd really benefit from being a little bigger because as-is it's barely as tall as a toa.
>>11814719i remember this a few threads ago
>>11814804Yeah, I find it a bit impressive I came up with it as a kid, and managed to find all black for it, free to use for anybody who wants to make one don’t worry, scales perfectly with the regular tohunga feet
>>11814784The Kal ones could've used the extra parts to make the legs bigger for sure.
>>11814814Interesting, I'll build the second one tonight since I just built extra (non-kal) Tahnok, Pahrak and Nuhvok from my parts stash
>>11814814Why didn’t they make the krana holders in pearl light gray for the bohrok kals
>>11814821Why didn't they make the windshield see-through in some fashion? That alone is why Kals are inferior designs
>>11814823Idk about that, I always found the lizard scrotum texture designs very cool.Also, one of mine is a misprint. Forget if it was Pahrak-Kal or Tahnok-Kal, but it's got the other one's print in brown/red instead.
>>11814929Can you supply pics? Sounds cool
>>11814935I'll grab a pic next time it turns up, sure.
>>11814520I think you pretty much got the two best pictures there, but here's another one of Hafu since his chisel got cut off.>>11814651This looks like a nigga who rapes niggas.
The Slizer build has opened too many possibilities, and there's no going back now. I've been toying with different hip angles for a more realistic human range of motion. Anyway, here's Future Kopaka.
>>11815156I would forget to rotate my damn images, wouldn't I.Anyway, I'm going with the G2 masks for the team to represent the "adaptive" Kanohi Nuva in more of a default state. I'm going with the gold ones because a) the Toa's original colour scheme with a gold mask is absolutely peak and b) Poharu, Gali, and Lewa's masks don't match their normal colours anyway. I suppose I could always mak Pohatu burnt orange and tan, but I don't have anywhere near enough Zoomer Blue or Zoomer Green parts, and certainly not enough that would be usable for this sort of thing.
>>11815162Fun fact: "dabbing" is unironically a great way to test shoulder range of motion.Also, disregard the box of City and HP minifigs he's standing on, I couldn't be arsed to clear a proper space to photograph him so he's on top of a storage stack.
>>11815164Version with the white mask for giggles. Obviously, they'll all still retain their "transport" modes. Except Tahu, who is of course no longer a Nuva.
>>11815168How much did that white pin cost? White pins and axels cost a ton from my experience
>>11815182Just salvage from half a Bahrag set I got as part of a bulk lot back in the day, so I couldn't say.
>>11815156This is a really cool build. Nice way of doing the shoulder armour too. Could you show the basic skeleton without decoration? and are you the one who made pic related?
It is only now, after I have started to troon out, that I understand why this series has this disproportionately large trans following, and it all comes back to the bizarre decision to stick all the female characters in the water tribe.That whole concept feels like the kind of thing that the creators only wrote in because they realized one of the main heroes needs to be female and decided all of her tribesmen should actually be tribeswomen for the sake of simplicity. Too bad a bunch of people would later grow up and ask “what if there was a female ta-matoran?” and it all went downhill from there.
>>11815194Let me guess, you don’t have a huge random scavenged parts bin>>11815187May have to salvage some shit from the second edition R2D2 technic set for white pins, tubes, and general parts, my parts selection is building up fairly large at least
>>11815190Yeah, that was me. Sadly the Slizers are disassembled now, but the upshot is I can always make them again (and do it better this time).Anyway, out at the moment, but I'll get a few more pitchers once I'm home.
>>11815190>>11815204Okay, anatomy time. First, the mount for the Nuva breastplate.
>>11815244Underneath, the torso structure.
>>11815245Then the back. The bit hanging through the liftarm is just there to have somewhere to attach his shield when he's skating.
>>11815246Cross-section of the spine.
>>11815249And lastly the mount assembly by itself. The 2L axle-pins aren't structurally integral to anything.
>>11815194At least give me your Bohroks before you ACK
Okay, Gali was supposed to be next, but I saw these recoloured Lerahk tools from Power Miners and inspiration struck. Tell me I'm not completely insane, this could work as a Mata-style leg.
>>11815286Not the most sturdy thing, but I definately see the vision here
>>11815201Well he'll have a few more parts to put in there now
>>11815289Sturdiness actually isn't so bad (the bit at the top is more to pretend there's actually a knee there), I'm more worried about it looking too chunky. But what the hey, no way to know for sure until Tahu's done I guess.
So I guess I misplaced my pearl gold Stars Hau, original flavour will have to do.
>>11815366Fits better in size since the stars Hau is undersized
>>11815378Annoyingly, the G2 masks are also microcephalic, so it just ends up looking too big in comparison.
Just done building a fuckton of Bohrok as combiner fodderI now have four Nuhvok for one lime Krana
>>11815378Stars Tahu looks like a chimpanzee. What’s that about?
>>11815459>stupid fat-guy-sneaker Stars feet>fat legs>tiny little arms clenched inwards>ridiculously forward-jutting headAv-Matoran pieces were a mistake.
Narratively, was it a mistake to flashback to Metru Nui and doing the whole "matorans become toa, and then they mutate" beat twice in a row.
>>11815446Guess they'll have to share the brain cell, as the saying goes
I gotta give my MOCs better feet, the CCBS hero feet plague them lol
Okay, that time again. Here's Lewa.>>11815901On the upside, the gap in front of the socket gives that shell piece room to not completely screw up his articulation.
>>11816111This part turned out well, I think.
>>11816113Swoosh.His shoulders are obviously more compact than Kopaka's, I wanted him skinnier-looking.
>>11816111>>11816113>>11816115can you make it so he can make a helicopter on his back
I should wash my new bionicles but Im too lazy
>>11808030In terms of brawn and powers yeah, the Piraka are stronger. But that's just because they come from a race that are essentially bioengineered retarded thugs thanks to Spiriah's bullshit.
>>11812255Bionicle is a crab coded franchise.
>washing my new bionicles in a bucket over the sink>hear a couple *tink* when im pouring the water outim retarded, some oceanlife is gonna choke on an axle piece now
>>11816111Very nice. Awesome torso and the swords additions are cool. A little hard to judge from the angles, but I think the Nuva pads on the hips help a lot with the silhouette there.Only problem is I dislike Lewa's Gen2 masks. OG and even Nuva were peak.
Based on that April fools leak, the sandworm just got "officially" leaked so that's that for the Bionicle buildable set, if anyone was interested in that potentially being a thing.
>>11812255It makes sense considering Ussals pretty much fill the role of horses. Viewed that way, the Keras would be some kind of hippocamp, the hypothetical winged crab a pegasus, and pic related the most mythical beast of all: The Elephant.
>>11816947This is why you should always keep a drain cover while washing it>>11816998Try seeing how the Winged Crab would go, maybe have it be like those crabs that float up using their back legs>>11816990>leakers are gayMore at 11
>>11816971I agree. With most of the G2 masks in general, it's clear that they focused on one specific aspect of the original mask's design and blew it out of proportion but missed that there were other aspects to it looking so good. The Miru 'Koto is all about those cheekholes but completely ignores the sleek bullet shape of the original, the Kakama has big fat fucking cheeks far beyond what looked good on the original, the Pakari turns those pits around the eyes into one big pit across the whole face instead of the smooth animal skull/hockey mask look, etc.Only one I would consider on par with the original is the Kaukau. Obviously much better than the Cowcow Nuva too.>>11816538I mean I guess it's doable.
Have they upcharged the prices of Bricks and Minifigs to try and get people to pay for their lawsuit? I wanna try to figure out a place to buy some bricks tomorrow
fuck ttv for making that stupid giganigga boomunga moc the winner which directly caused the prices of whenua metru torsos to skyrocket due to scarcity what is the obsession with moc toa part of a team with established characters looking nothing like the rest of the team?
>>11817406Why do so many people make the black Toa a giganigga bulk slamfist anyway?I've seen "revamps" of the Mata across the years that bulk the shit out of Onua.
>>11817414it's not even accurate because onua wasn't even the strong guy of the og toa, pohatu wasonua just had the mask of strength
>>11817406Attention seeking, basically. All those entrants were much more concerned with "being part of Bionicle history" than with actually making something accurate. Like that cunt whose entry in the Helryx contest used a rare trans-blue G2 Kaukau as some sick "teehee did I accidentally use the $1000 factory tour collectible oops that's just one of my normal pieces" humblebrag (thankfully while /ourgirl/ didn't win it forced the TTV troons to brigade the second best option out of spite).>>11817416They were both in the same ballpark (Onua and Pohatu are lumped together as "two strongest members" in the 2002 comics when they all had Golden Kanohi and thus free access to Pakari strength) but I'm perfectly willing to admit that Pohatu has the edge.
>>11817436>/ourgirl/ was that bendryx? that one was pretty good
>>11817416Isn't Onua supposed to be the wisest Toa? I remember him using Talk no Jutsu against Lexa during the Bohrok arc
Ooga booga, where da ga-matoran at?!
>>11817469yeah, he was the wisest/ calmest of the toa while lewa was the 'youngest' and most impulsive design docs also had tahu as the oldest, whatever that meant
>>11817471it's so unnecessary, the build looks worse and more unstable with the fuckhueg calves and forearms the same idea could've been done with vahki legsand of course he's a hunchback, onua did it so that means every toa of earth moc has to as well
>>11817471>>11817476And of course, after all that overdesigned horseshit, it still uses the same nigger-tier excuse connection for Metru arms that every dumb reddit faggot slaps on to any "rEvAmP" thereof because in his tiny little mind any ball connection=full articulation, mission accomplished, no more effort or excess brain-strain necessary.Fuck, this retarded horseshit gets me so mad that I'm going to do Onua Nuva next just to show what a Toa of Earth should look like. I was saving him for last because he'd be the easiest but now I just have no choice.
>>11817471Is there images of this front on? I'm imagining it looks hilariously goofy.
>>11817473Tahu got out of the toa pods first, also Pohatu being smart and fast is op
>>11817481I just wanna see some usage of shit like this, fuck small tile spam let people use big pieces instead of forcing shit like >>11817471 to happen, small design bits is fine but keeping to a normal frame is how you get a sturdy toa instead of fragile shit like most moc builders build, same with vehicles and rahi to rideSorry about rant I just dont like the statueshit that sure can have a lot of poses but is fragile from the building techniques being more just “LOOK AT WHAT I CAN DO!” Instead of questioning should they? Fragile statue shits I wanna just solid build
My favourite "what the fuck is that" TTV contest winner build is Artakha.Somehow him taking a smithing hammer to use as a makeshift weapon got warped into being a giant fucking warhammer as big as himself.
>>11817500Also it's one of the most fragile Bayformer pieces of shit ever. The contest had a lot of better entries that looked more Bionicle
>>11817505>mixing greysthat alone should've disqualified it
>>11817506That's one that I posted that's better than the winner, the winner is way too over designed
>>11817505Just reading his description I picture him in my head being like, a modified Brutaka-like build.
>>11817509Brutaka or maybe Botar's frame as a base if you insist on a larger frame.
>>11817507i've noticed that both of them are overgreebled just for the sake of it, it's not adding anything to the model it's just for needless texture imo the best mocs for established characters are ones that look like they could've actually been sold as a set
>>11817498I agree. I don't build anything that wouldn't survive five minutes in the hands of a child.>>11817507>literally a fucking Inika buildI fucking hate the mainstream Bionicle "MOCing" meta so much it's unreal.Thankfully, I can channel that hatred into creativity.
>>11817517You don't like an Inika build with nothing but greebling making it unable to stand unless it's perfectly posed and you're lucky enough to have tight joints 20 years later?
>>11817527Well when you put it like that, how can I say no?Fuck me, it looks like if you so much as brushed it about a dozen different sections would start falling off too. Like these things always do, but anything for the pic and internet clout, right?>>11817517And I want to clarify something here: I'll often say Inika build or Inika skeleton to refer to just the layout of the joints. This isn't even that. YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE AN ACTUAL INIKA TORSO THROUGH THE SHOULDER.
>>11817531https://biosector01.com/wiki/File:Original_Artakha_Instructions_by_WCP.pdfYeah, it's really just an extended Inika build, doesn't even have extra joints or points of connection. Shame because there's a couple neat parts usage but it's so over greebled that it just looks like a mess.
TBDAnd I don't mean "to be determined", brother.
>>11817468Yeh
>>11817468>>11817563This was the one that ended up winning after they were forced to abandon the greebleshit entries, so, y'know, still not a bad compromise.
>>11817517Whats an "inika" build? When is something classified as such?
>>11817584Depends on personal definition, I suppose. For me, it's anything that uses the skeletal layout of horizontally mounted shoulder/hip ball joints connecting to socket limbs (in other words, the same thing Lego has been doing for the past 20 years because they're creatively bankrupt lazy fuckers). For others, it's only the specific version of that design used for the latter half of G1, characterized by the specific use of the Inika, Piraka, or Av-Matoran torsoes and/or the corresponding limb arrangement of double-socket bones with shell pieces designed for that purpose. Although I personally think that's just overly superlative cope.In either event, this is both and/or all of the above. See >>11817531.
>>11817507>tyres on the ball joint axlesI don't know why this instantly pisses me off when I see it.
>>11817597Because of the inherent offensive stupidity of somebody calling something "my own creation" while copying all the exact same banal design beats that everyone else is doing like they're going down a checklist, perhaps? That's what I think it is.Anyway, you're right to feel that way, I fucking hate it too.
She was pretty cool and a nice set. Except for the lime disease sockets.
>>11817512I don't get why they need to make everything hyper detailed when early sets and combiners did better with 1/20th of the pieces this shit is comprised ofI built it recently so it's the first example that comes to mind, but the japanese Bohrok combiner conveys wings with bohrok body halves, and guns with bohrok head halves + technic beams, and neither of these elements needed a thousand little pieces to be readable or look good, in fact most people notice the mecha influence in the design despite the thing only using pieces from two bohroksSimplicity is lost on these people, they cannot see things with their imagination, only what they literally see
>>11817655Now it's nice.
I’ve made my 80s Matoran. Black, purple, medium blue, and yellow (lighting makes it look gold). Waiting on black ball joint sockets for the shoulders, don’t have any that aren’t currently in use.I worry his glaive is too comically undersized.
>>11803853why are you a faggot?
>>11817558lmaoLooks good but Onua would be cooler with a different silhouette. The stubby legs just ain't enough for me, though the forearms and tools are sick. Shame there's no other single piece with the same joint layout as those old Mata arms. I'd be curious to see you swap the forearms for the upper arms (wrist joint goes 90deg to be the shoulder socket), then possibly Mata legs or something as forearms for variety, pic rel.His Nuva form almost strikes me as pot-bellied. His original form would lend itself better to the skeleton you've worked out, though the Nuva armour pulls it the other way.
>>11817600It really is just "oh that's a cool technique, lemme add that" ad infinitum.
>>11817819Yeah, I was pretty much ignoring most of the design language of his actual Nuva form in favour of something closer to his original design, since I always thought the former looked fucking ridiculous with the tiny little arms and wide hips. Probably will do the same for Pohatu so he doesn't look like a fucking bullfrog.In truth, I did mostly stick with socket-to-ball elbows in earlier designs (like the Chronicler's Company posted earlier) but I do find that ball-to-socket gives a better range of motion.
>>11817879>>11817886Is his head hunched relative to the others you posted? or am I just confused by angles? As-is he has a gorilla-like shape with the long arms and short legs, which seems much more fitting than a bullfrog. Rahkshi shins are also great.There's definitely something to striking the balance between heroic proportions and the much more machine-like designs of the early days (and Slizers).>ball-to-socket elbowsI think Ball-to-socket arm-to-shoulder (or leg-to-hip) is ideal, while I think there's some more choice for elbows---I think either works so long as the shoulder is b2s. Though it definitely seems like the more natural choice given the parts selection. It's a shame the Inika skeleton prevailed, since more varied pieces of the Mata leg joint layout would be nice to work with. My only guess is that the limited DoF on one end of most (all?) fore-limb pieces helps somewhat for stability (or at least less wonky posing) in legs, and allows for those pieces to be more multi-use (leg and arm).I think in the case I sketched though the shoulder articulation should still allow some natural poses you wouldn't get in an Inika-esque model. Say to get the forearm parallel to the ground and in front of the chest (like hiding behind a shield), with the whole arm pointing forward you can rotate the upper arm 90deg about the shoulder to get the elbow joint in the right angle. Sorta how the shoulder works IRL, except it might make the shoulder silhouette kind of weird in that pose.
>>11817927Yeah, he's still hunched over, although less so than his "real" versions. My vision of Onua was always "creepy-looking gangly hunchback", although I did try to stick with stuff like his somewhat beefier arms.As to the elbows, it's more a question of compensating for the deficiencies of the shoulder, since unlike us meat beings with our connective tissues it's all skeleton. Strictly speaking, a human elbow *is* more of a hinge joint, but our shoulder rotates at multiple points and at a wider angle. So if you want a moc to be able to, say, cross its arms, you need more sideways-moving elbows.
>>11817992*beefier thighs. Is what I meant to say.
>>11817740kitty :)
>>11817740Very cute
>>11817661>shoulders still almost twice as wide as hipsIdk man when you emphasize the bust without changing the inigga gorilla proportions it kinda just looks like either big gross barafaggotry pecs or massive bolt-on tranny fakies instead of making her look feminine>2009 handsFucking oofWhy even use those when you have literally any other optionPretty sure the CCBS version comes in lime and looks betterAnd won't y'know shatter like glass>>11817558KEK
Got some random bricks, last pickup for a while I feel
>>11817473I always assoomed that Tahu was the first Toa created after Helryx (her being basically a prototype, hence why she has no "destiny" aside from being Queen Glownegress of Glownigger Mountain) and they started work on the rest of the team just after that. It would explain why the Golden Armour was specifically designed to be used by Tahu rather than just any Toa.
>>11817992>So if you want a moc to be able to, say, cross its arms, you need more sideways-moving elbows.I'm saying you can do that with the joints reversed at the elbow so long as you have the extended shoulder joint, at least in your case since the shoulder can rotate in the plane of the body without moving the arm (much). Nuva pads would be pointing up.Have you tried any other hip configurations other than the upward V and straight down? I was wondering about a downward V, but I'd assume the articulation gets restrictive, or otherwise the parts to pull off that kind of angle are lacking.
>>11818182A downward V could work in theory, leg doesn't need to bend that far inward anyway (human thigh doesn't cross over more than 45 degrees at the absolute most, it'd be, what, 30 degrees that way?). In truth it would probably make the waist joint simpler since I could just put a ball on the third side of the triple connector and have the socket on the top instead. Something worth trying out anyway, I'll give it a go on Pohatu since it would be thematically appropriate to have something upside down on him anyway. Although I am concerned that I'd have less points from which to attach something down there.Pic mostly unrelated, but I do wish I had these miniball liftarms in something other than lime or dark gray, or at least more than 2 in dark gray. Would be nice to retrofit the other two I've made with it now that I've seen how it looks.
https://www.deviantart.com/plague-doc-matteo/art/Bionicle-MOC-The-Innenrrad-257053575Apparently there was a bionicle moc community on DeviantArt, just the AI plauge likely mostly extincted them
>>11818278I have a great sense of respect and kinship for anyone who uses the Pimpfire Tank wheels in mocs.Of course, I think Bionicle vehicle moccing in general is a safer category, lot less System bar element/cheeseslope greeblefaggotry.
I don't hate the "canon" Toa Nidhiki personally. It's not great and i'd ditch the scarf, but otherwise I appreciate the vision. The canon Artahka is pure dogshit though
>>11818315it'll always look weird to me whenpeople don't use a kualsi for nidhikiit was designed to resemble a vahki's head to begin with
>>11818331>MUH CANON HIS CANON MASK IS A STUPID LOOKING MAHRI MASK WITH THE TUBE HOLE CUT OFFIs the reason I've been told when I've asked.
>>11818334aesthetics > canon
>definitely-wasn't-toa-dume toa norik has dume's mask>"uh no that's not a kiril it's a pehkui that is the shape of a kiril for... reasons"Why did Greg do that.
>>11818315>>11818331>>11818334>>11818335No, no, no. The *really* stupid thing is when somebody actually does use a volitak, but they just use an unmodified one and give him silver shoulders/thighs/feet/chest to match Lhikan's colour scheme, and it's still not good enough for the spergs and/or troons of the side of the fanbase with delusions of legitimacy who descend like a pack of hyenas to scream>NOOOOO THAT'S NOT HECKIN CANON MUH HOLY GREG SAID HE'S ALL GREEN TAKE IT APART RIGHT NOW RIGHT NOWBtw the "oFfIcIaL" version still uses that nigger-tier shoulder connection I spoke of. And yes, the cape/scarf is retarded bullshit. But on the plus side the elbows are actually quite good.
>>11818342The really asinine part is that it just opens the whole can of worms of "all mask shapes are completely arbitrary and irrelevant to its function". Which is good for moccing if you're not into donut steel masks from online or paint gore, but still a really stupid retcon.
>>11818348I've seen people defend it as "making sense" due to the Toa Kaita masks.
>>11818361I mean I could probably think of a few reasons that it would "make sense" that are much, much less stupid than that if push came to shove. Still just stupid to undermine the core identity of Kanohi so hard when the first year's plot was 100% about finding those very visually iconic masks. What's particularly interesting is that that same year (or maybe the year before?) we had Krakua with his incredibly Hau-shaped Suletu, which I think Greg later retconned to just being a visual placeholder for him having a real Suletu (that presumably looked like a less edgy version of Kongu's), so one minute mask shapes are lol whatever and the next it's very important that this specific mask not be shaped like another mask. Fucker can't even be consistent, as usual.
>>11818334>>11818335>>11818346I think whatever looks coolest is the own thats his
>>11818367>>11818361>>11818348I wanna do a mask of Inversion/reversal, and have an idea or two for it, what should I do
>>11818346I honestly ignore the entire story beyond 2003. It doesn't even register in my head, I just simply do not care about how stupid and boring the series became. Whats always annoying of course is the sea of autistic trannies that will police anything not adhering to whatever bs lore "addition" was added to the story in a 2007 web comic
>>11818380>2007 web comicWe should only be so lucky, their primary source is usually that one time they asked Greg "hey do you think [INSERT RETARDED PERSONAL HEADCANON is a thing" and he said "yeah okay whatever I guess" because he's an actual adult and being brand ambassador is just his job.>>11818376Depends on the race.Sorry, what I meant to say was: what colour is the character going to be?
>>11818380Any Rahi you like?
>>11818380in hindsight, maybe it was a bad call to let the guy originally hired to write a filler book be in charge of the entire story post 2004
>>11818380A web comic that no one read is a higher "tier" of what usually is the source for a lot of stupid lore.It's usually Greg saying some random shit he pulled out of his ass on a forum.
>>11818386I thought he started out writing the comics (which were actually good, even if MNOG and the animations were better). At least I could swear that I remember seeing "Farshtey" on the cover of even my really old comics.
>>11818388yeah i forgot about the comics but the first book he wrote, tales of the masks, was total filler
>>11818384Dark Red and Green, maybe, not fully decided it yet though since yeah, though its tempting to keep symeteicalish for the body design while the mask is obviously two different halves, one side being an inverted face of sorts, thought of something like it being an upside down face with the “mouth hole” being as the eyes, and there being eye holes on the bottom, as in the toa eyes are visible along with the forehead mostly, maybe some tubes on the top that lead down to help the illusion of it being an upside down face. Vents at the bottom, wanted to give something of a unique siloette to it, fucking based the idea off that one touhou girl
>>11818390>>11818384User will be a guy, I just have a lot of dark red and green bricks and think it would be good for a vehicle rider. Have a mask design or two more in my head incase you wanna hear but mister reverse is the most complicated one
>>11818390I think that's a solid foundation to start from, it sounds like you've already put a good deal of thought into its design. Only thing I would suggest is maybe a simpler shape for the mask itself, like maybe almond-shaped, so that it'll be radially symmetrical. Sort of in a away where it'd be hard to tell the difference if he actually did wear it upside down (hypothetically, of course, it wouldn't exactly work in practice with the mouth peg).The bigger challenge would be actually making it, I suppose. Do you have any experience in 3d modelling? If you can make the model I'm sure there are services to have it 3d printed for you.
>>11818389Filler that never even comes up in the shit he was actually entirely in charge of writing later, because aside from that one time Gali stuck her Akaku Nuva up to the Great Telescope the Nuva seem to completely forget that they have more than one mask power (except Tahu, I guess).
>>11818396No for real experience, just have a semi good way of mentally visualising it. Going almond shape but making it able to fit around the metru and mata heads is a fine enough goal I feel, or at least having eyes line up with Metru from inside the mouth. That should be a goal, biggest obstacle if its almond shaped is making sure the cheek bones on neither head type collide, I think either extending the sides or the bottom/top sides is a good way to give it a decent side profile too, though I think the sides is gonna be better for possibility on both mata and metru head, sorry for wall of text just actively thinking out your suggestion
Okay, so I'm out of triple connectors. This project is officially on hiatus for at least the next two weeks.
>>11818141Okay you're pretty much right about everything. I just wanted to use that squidward.
>>11818141Tbf How many options are for hips that don't come up as either too narrow or too wide.Spiriah has hips as wide as his shoulders and he looks comically wideGranted you can always build a custom hip, but the Moc anon posted seems to have a custom torso already so that's like half of the job done, otherwise it'd look way wider at the top.
>>11818447>build a custom hipUh... yes? Why exactly would you not do this? Why is your first reaction "it's cool man these exactly two different pieces from 2004 are all that anyone should use for hips ever"?
>>11818315The Iruini set will always be Toa Nidhiki to me
>>11818384Idea for a drinking game: Reading the Bionicle wiki but every time it refers to a Greg forum post you drink one shotHow long do you think you'd last?
>>11818506You'd probably die within 30 minutes if you went to pages on characters that died.>lmao red star, greg on the forum said x
>botar>dies offscreen>is immediately replaced by a guy exactly the same who has no name>is referenced only as "botars replacement"
>>11818510This one's so retarded it counts for two shots
>>11818507The red star page alone refers to about 60 Greg postsYou might as well down the entire bottle
The red star purpose might be the worst fucking thing Greg ever added with the lore.What the hell do you mean dead matoran universe inhabitants used to get teleported to the red star, fixed up, and sent back until the great cataclysm? And no one has ever mentioned this utterly massive change of "hey... the dead aren't coming back now..."
>>11818522>until the great cataclysm?I'd say it was prior to that, Mavrah died years before that and he never came back from the Red Star. So unless this happened somewhere around the time Velika gave them sentience ,so they have no memory of this ever happening, it's retarded that noone pointed this out.
>>11818528Didn't Mavrah drown after the Toa Metru found him fucking about with Rahi in the tunnels up to Mata Nui?
>>11818536Fuck! you are right, I mixed it up with his first dissapeareance which was when Whenua was still an Archivist. Forgive my retardation
I love Rood-Ack!
>>11818510I really did hate that>Botar has been instrumental to the order of the universe for 100,000 years but also he insta jobs to Icarax
>>11818189>human thigh doesn't cross over more than 45 degrees at the absolute most, it'd be, what, 30 degrees that way?I was thinking you'd lose the ability to pose the splits, i.e., rotations upwards in the plane of the body. Still limited upwards to some degree with the current configuration, but you've still got lots of room for natural poses.>put a ball on the third side of the triple connector and have the socket on the top insteadI was thinking that the sockets might be too big to go the other way on that same connector. Like I think the joints would at least be touching, if not intersecting. Could just lay them flat out for Pohatu, since it'd give him the wide hips and flat base; the downwards V would shrink him down there instead.I was also thinking about pic rel as a hip configuration using Mata feet. Dunno if that would be going too far into coomer territory for Gali though, or how well you could get a connection off the top for the torso, at least since it'd force the back joint way higher up.>>11818412>two weeksDamn. But those connectors are cool for emulating the look of the original torsos. I imagine they also help with stability, but do they impede forward rotation?In the mean time you could mess around stripping the current figures to Mata forms, sans armour, maybe skinnier limbs. Lewa with an axe would make my day.
>>11818682>Dunno if that would be going too far into coomer territory for Gali thoughGali had those black pins on her hips to make them kinda larger looking so it should be fine
>>11818396Anything else?>>11818682You designing a Toadline there?
>>11818688How would you build pic rel?>toadlineHas anyone made any SMASHED and SLAMMED rahi? Something with a body plan like dimetrodon or an alligator/croc/toady would be cool for a rahi, but I can't remember anything official that tried it. Spinax, sorta, but he's too lanky. Little bohrok limbs would be fitting.
>>11810327looks incredible anon
>>11818727Would need a fair bit of bulk on the limbs to support it, unless you do something clever like having treads through the middle of it while it waddles around on its stomach, so you could use the bohrok limbs just to help push itself around
>>11818682Well, more cuz I'm going to be out of the country after the next couple of days.Think using feet like that would be far too wide though. As it is the width from socket to socket on the (male) members of the team I've made is about 5 studs and it's on the border of looking too wide, 7 studs would be a bit extreme.
>>11818735Gave me an idea.>>11818793Yeah, I kinda forgot how huge those feet are. Have you thought about a custom thigh bone? The width of those limbs seems to be the main contribution to the overall hip width. Using your hip connector (pt 57585) with a ball on one ip and the other connected to a bone would give you something a little closer to a true femur, but even keeping the joint perpendicular wouldn't be a big deal if you just shrank the distance the limb goes out. Shame there isn't likely to be a 2-point version of that piece, and that this kind of thing probably limits colour options.
>>11818793>>11818936Or pic rel. I dunno if the 112.5 deg version would end up wider than the Mata limb or not.
>>11818936>>11818940In that scenario, it's more that I don't like using a ball flush with a supporting piece in general, because that severely limits how far you can push the ball side of the joint against the sides of the socket (basically, to 90 degrees). I could space it out half a stud, though. It would certainly open up more options as far as attachment points go. Strictly speaking I don't *need* to stick with the Slizer limb pieces since I'm not actually doing Slizers anymore, so it's an option anyway.
>>11818624lol
why is the teal kakama so expensive
>>11819394Tarakava exclusive.
>>11817507The main issue I have with canonizing contest OC MOCs is that most never look like actual, release-able sets. They often use techniques that may stress parts, or connections that Lego would never use, etc.Compared to the actual retail Toa Hagah, Lego would never release something like this >>11817471.5 torsos with a ton of additional pieces for each just to make them work as limbs, that just quadruples the piece count.Most of these contest MOCs seem to be just making things complex for no reason.
>>11819453most of the winners were just their creators humble flexing the rare parts they have, or how 'creative' they were by making an overgreebled abomination given that most of the characters were just farshtey's oc's, i find myself being able to ignore their existence pretty easily
>>11818624GIWTWM
>>11818963Ah yeah, I hadn't thought about how it'd block the joint. The stem is still slightly narrower than the ball joint though, so there might be a enough freedom for most natural poses depending on the angle of the socket, but my mental model might be fucked. Limits of a nopartsfag.>I could space it out half a stud, thoughWhat length axle would let you do that? I was thinking it's either too short at 2L or awkwardly long at 3L. And I'm realising even spacing it makes things worse since without a stopper the late-model ball joint pieces would be inclined to slip further down during posing, meaning you'd be stuck using the older closed ball joints.
>>11819611Well, least I have the one solitary connector left to make hips even if I'm missing the two for the shoulders.Anyway, here's one example. While it is generally good form not to leave half a stud of space just hanging out, you can totally do it on purpose.
>>11819741>>11819611This particular design ends up about the same width as the Slizer femurs thoughbeit, but on the upside it looks less awkward with stuff added to it.
All right, this is pretty much the limit of Pohatu until I get back from vacation and place a few part orders.
>>11819741>>11819745>>11819777This is looking awesome.>half a stud of space just hanging outI was thinking of the situation with the angle connector earlier. Here I'd say it looks totally fine. My concern was mostly about the late ball joints that came in sets, where they had axle holes straight through, like with the pistons so the axle could slide all the way through. Not a problem here.This still of hips seems even close to the Mata torso. Really cool.Also, pic rel is the downward V orientation I was thinking of, except I don't think there's an easy connection for the top (I think the ball joints would be too close using the 3-point axle connector you use).
>>11819813whoops
>>11819813I actually am using the ones with the hole all the way through pretty much anywhere you see a single ball that isn't any colour except black or red. Problem with the old ones is because they also have space to sit on an actual System stud and because they're capped at the end they have much less frictile surface to hold the actual axle and thus much less grip strength, so things tend to fall apart if you use them to mount anything bigger than a hand or foot, and double that problem if you stick them on a 1.5L connector which is already softer plastic. The straight-through ones are much better in this respect; the aspect of the axle sometimes potentially poking through the other side isn't really a huge issue, and can always be fixed on the fly.>>11819815Kinda think this would limit upward mobility of the thigh too much. We don't need the other extreme of the in*ka skeleton where you can do the splits until your shins touch your shoulders, but you wouldn't be able to pose, say, a high kick or even a particularly wide stance this way.
>tfw no psychotic tomboy Makuta gf
>>11820121Makuta got rid of gorast for a reason
>file limit reachedHow did we get so active so suddenly?
>>11820131... That reason being that he was gay?>>11820133People actually posting MOCs, I guess. Another difference between here and /lg/.
Fuck we need a new bread now? we're so back
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