What happen d to his eyebrows?

I don't know who this is.

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Step 1. Give Bryan back his Legos
Step 2. Shave off that stupid mustache

>>11808053
/toy/ lost

I feel like he is in the wrong even if the previous owners mishandled their store.

He should have compensated the lego owner for any sold inventory and given the rest back.

Then he should have sued the previous owners for compentsation for any wrong doings.

It would have made Bricsk and minifigs the heroes in this.

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>>11808367
>I feel like he is in the wrong even if the previous owners mishandled their store.
He's in the wrong because he is literally caught saying corporate would take over the consignment when then pretended to be retard to steal the product.

>>11808416
The unredacted bodycam footage the PD accidentally released really makes things bad.

>>11808053
>>11808380
>guy sets up a consignment agreement with Bricks & Minifigs - a chain of third party lego stores owned by Mormons
>Mormons kick out owner of the store, replace her with a corporate employee and admits on camera they are taking over the consignment valued at $200,000
>new owners immediately tell guy to fuck off, bricks are theirs - start selling sets without paying the actual set owners
>original owner eventually gets a Youtuber who releases a video which goes viral detailing Looney Tunes esque efforts to get back the sets while the owners act like bitchy edgelords
>OP pic is CEO of the stores, claims he knows nothing, except putting the current owner in place
>Youtuber goes to houses of the current store owners in Utah to serve them lawsuit papers, CEO coordinates police to arrest Youtuber accusing him of stalking and drug trafficking
>corrupt police arrest Youtuber and Epstein-tier redact the released body cam footage

>>11808485
>videos made by Youtuber go viral
>people dig into history of stores, find they are corrupt as hell
>mormon police department also corrupt as hell
>Bricks & Minifiigs begin spending hundreds of thousands on crisis management and marketing to try and stop the Streisand effect, people leak corporate communications which show they are scared
>cops release Youtube video claiming they did literally nothing wrong
>Youtuber now getting help from lawyers and scam investigators like Coffeezilla to look into this corruption, including the cops violating Utah law and the US Constitution on camera
>now it turns out the cops uploaded the unredacted bodycam footage to a dropbox, which prove the cops were working with the Lego store people to protect the business because lol Mormon, including helping form the lies

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>>11808488
What the fuck? This sounds more deranged than a South Park episode. Thanks for the info, though.

Another day goes by and ACAB gets truer and truer.

>>11808488
kek, literally showing the moment the police took the papers to him.
https://youtu.be/5zPRvOrmyiE?t=486
I wish I could claim emotional distress if someone was trying to serve me legal papers.
>literally offers to give the papers to Joshua and he hesitates and claims their fake.

>>11808180
>>11808176
Go back to hell.

Ben is fucked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3E-K0bg4so

None of this is toy related

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>>11808727
wtf is this comments section holy shit

>>11808156
He actually did in one of his videos where responded to something lol

>>11808044
This faggot looks like he joined the mormon church because he thought being in a polygamous marraige would be a good oppertinity so suck all the cock he wants and pretend to be straight. Dude looks like he uses other men's dick cheese to style his mustache. He looks he just smelled a fart and is trying to hide his erection

>>11808727
Everyone in this story is a piece of shit except for the family that got their Legos stolen. They're the only ones I feel sorry for.
Ben, B&M and the American Fork PD are all criminals (in my opinion) and bad people.

>>11808797
I don't think anyone has claimed Ben is a good person. He's just a nuisance streamer with a good cause. He's being an annoying asshole retard for the right reasons. And his retarded schemes are entertaining and well edited, which is why it's taken off as much as it has

>>11808806
Forging signatures in the name of the cause doesn't help it.

>>11808809
where did he forge a signature, retard?

>>11808811
Watch the video retard. When he had one of his buddies pretend to be a deliveryman to have people unwittingly sign contracts that bar them from trespassing him. That's fucking forgery.

>>11808812
Lied about winning the initial court case.
Committed fraud in the factum/forgery.

>>11808813
That's not forgery.
You're using wrong terminology - the contract is legally void but the signature was genuine.
"Forgery" means making shit up, that's not what happened.

>>11808813
Lol, that's not a forgery, little brother. E-signing contracts on a smart phone is an entirely normal thing to do. It's Karen's fault for not reading what she signed. Obviously no court would uphold such a ridiculous contract that is not clearly presented, but that is not the same thing as forging a signature. You're clearly just grasping at straws to cover for your little mormon fuck buddies

Yes of course young goyim. What matters here is the nuisance streamer being a nuisance. Just ignore the multi-million dollar corporation and mormon police corruption.

>>11808820
https://oregon.public.law/statutes/ors_165.007

>>11808826
kek, that's not the smoking gun you think it is, retard. If anything, this is factual proof that he did not forge anything, because nothing in the contract was false. It was PRESENTED falsely, but that's explicitly abscent from the legal definition you posted, and therefore maybe just shut the fuck up. Because every post you make just makes your entire faggot cult look stupider

>>11808817
Singapore

>>11808727
What causes a man to suck corporate dick?

>>11808859
Stating facts is not the same as sucking dick.
Stop subscribing to ideologies and learn to think for yourself.
BAM has fucked up, PD is corrupt, Ben made several critical legal mistakes and did mislead the viewers.
All of these are not contradictory to each other and can all be true at the same time.

>>11808863
Ben made a spectacle of the whole thing to draw attention to the theft and he succeeded. The family would have nothing without Ben because the legos would still be stolen.

>>11808865
I generally agree with that statement.
IMO both sides can be justified here - and by both sides I mean Ben and lawyers that tell him this could've and likely should've been handled better.
BAM and their private security team wearing police badges cannot really be justified.

From the standpoint of the lawyers, there were several avenues to approach this 100% correctly and 100% legally without causing a massive scandal and without exposing Ben and his team to very real and very justified liability.
This approach would actually have the highest probability of succeeding in getting BAM themselves to be forced to admit fault and return the merchandise, the money, preferably both.
Because of how one-sided the case is and how overwhelming the evidence was, finding a lawyer who would agree to work on contingency should've not been a problem, which would directly solve the
>we'll drag it out in court so much you'll waste more money than you could ever help to gain
threat.
Even right now the claims BAM makes regarding the reasons they took over the store, the alleged illegality of the consignment agreement do not absolve them of the specific accusation of effectively stealing the collection.
Taking their claims at face value simply results in a situation where their shop would be holding someone's else possession with no legal grounds to claim it.
Some other lawyer has brought up a good point about pawn shops - if the possession of a pawn shop is found to be stolen, it will be confiscated and returned to the original owner. Simply holding items does not entitle one to own them.

>>11808865
But from Ben's perspective, or more like from the perspective of the public interest, BAM and their personal PD on payroll was clearly demonstrated to be acting maliciously, in bad faith, and way out of line.
So, in a very reversed
>the ends justify the means
I think that what Ben did was ultimately wrong, dumb, stupid, and incorrect, however the opposing party is intentionally abusing their power to make good faith and proper legal interaction with them to be as difficult as possible, and the degree of their audacity was so ridiculously severe, whatever very real crimes and offenses Ben commit are the lesser of two evils here, as bringing publicity to this case.
BAM was deserving a much more severe punishment than ~$100k + legal fees of both parties for the shit they were pulling off behind the scenes, and by this point, even if the court sentences Ben to a 30 years of continuous execution, he had already caused more damage to BAM than the proper legal process ever could've. At least an order of magnitude more, possible orders.
In that regard, while he's ultimately not a good actor in this case, and his behavior should not be replicated - the ultimate results of his actions end up a huge public service.
So I don't think Ben was "right" to do most of what he did but I am personally glad that he did all of that.

>>11808879
>In that regard, while he's ultimately not a good actor in this case, and his behavior should not be replicated

I disagree, I think he is and I think it should be. Luige shot the CEO of UnitedHealthcare as he walked out of a meeting where they agreed that denying legitimate claims would lead to a net profit because people wouldn't have the means or time to fight them. What's happening here with Ben isn't new, corporations have been doing this for like 10 years at this point and it's only getting worse. I can cite you numerous examples.

I truly believe it's going to get much worse before it gets better. While people still have this idea in their minds this battle can be fought fairly it will never get better.

>>11808889
The problem is that you can't challenge bad-faith abuses of the legal system with literal violence.
You are agreeing with those specific cases because you feel aligned with them.
I doubt you will be as supportive for something you don't align with as much.
Vigilante justice is a very romantic idea but the reason the entire world has laws is because allowing individuals make judgements personally and execute upon them ALWAYS led to problems.
You are asking for a system that can address bad-faith actors abusing another system and your proposed solution (vigilante justice) is the single system most vulnerable to being abused by bad-faith actors.

>>11808906
You can't win a rigged game by playing fair.

They stole and now they have to face consequences, fuck em.

>>11808906
You sound Mormon or Christian.

>>11808911
You say that but you implicitly rely on the "rigged game" being there.
Because if it's not, nothing is stopping corporations from hiring private armies and just killing off whoever disagrees with them.
You like the system, you rely on the system being there, but you also want to not be bound by the rules of the system - and that's just means you want to commit crimes and not be punished for that.
There is no higher justice there. Your train of thought is functionally identical to the train of throught of someone who would break into a house to rob it and murders the family inside because they happened to be there.

>>11808914
>nothing is stopping corporations from hiring private armies and just killing off whoever disagrees with them
This nigger has never heard of Boeing.

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>>11808914
>you fucking love licking boots admit it
Lmao. Get fucked glowie.

Corporations “hire” the government and use “courts and cops” as an army you moron.

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>>11808918
>>11808919
Neither of those are arguments.
You "guys" lack critical thinking and grab onto ideas emotionally and/or partisanly.
That's a very female thought process.

The problem is even if we steelman your point, you're still wrong, naïve and retarded.
Absence of law would simply make those who already have resources and power stronger - not weaker.
You're comparing several anecdotes to a fundamental change to the system, where everything is allowed, and your retarded underage female brain thinks it will come up on top somehow?
Good luck with that.

>>11808926
Watch the intro in ben's first video, the family did ask another YT channel but they backed out once the legal threats came.

>>11808966
Well, go on then

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>>11808966
It's too late to do last-minute catch-up, Josh. Return the legos. Also your feet's ugly.

>>11808906
Look at any civilisation historically. Where has change been most profound? Was it by protesting? Was it via the legal system? Was it accomplished with well-articulated discourse? No. It was done with violence. Not bureaucracy. Violence. You say that it is 'wrong' to resort to 'vigilante justice' because it is prone to abuse by 'bad faith actors' but if the current system is already rewarding bad faith actors what, precisely, is the difference?

What you need to understand is that society is cyclical. We go through rises. We go through falls. When society begins to fail it gets violent. When society begins to succeed it becomes peaceful. Literal violence is an inevitable, normal, process.

>>11809019
Because feminism is useful for corporate interests and is an easy method of securing votes. It has absolutely nothing to do with morality or ethics. Feminism succeeding is, in many ways, a symptom of society beginning to fail. Not of its previous success.

Listening to some of you guys and decerning your moral compasses really has me concerned for human civilization going forward. I hope you're just a very vocal, very naive minority because hol6 shit of the majority of society thinks like this we are absolutely fucked.

>>11809026
Listening to some of you advocate for open murder in the streets just because you perceive someone is rich or more well off than yoy or does something you perceive to be wrong is actually pretty concerning. The whole trying to turn Luigi into some kind of martyr or hero to the people is fucking insane. And no, I'm not defending CEOs criminal activity. But openly murdering and advocating for murder in the streets is fucking bananas.

The ironic thing being as soon as open violence erupted, the retards advocating for it would be the first to lock themselves in their closets to his while trying to stifle their wimpers and cries. You little cucks act like big boys but when the time comes you all always inevitably crumple to the ground and cry.

>>11809023
what?

>>11809016
I actually agree with that part, however in absolutely every single case the violence was done to bring order.
A different order, but order still.
There wasn't a single civilization that survived as anarchy.
If you want to revolt - be my guest, that's a cause one could argue for, but supporting individuals committing crime is not the same as revolting, and the former will not lead to the later either, because allowing lawless behavior always brings bad-faith actors in, no exceptions.
Your movement, whatever it is, that had any potential of becoming a revolution then becomes defined by those bad actors, and you lose public support, which is paramount for any sort of revolution of having any chance of succeeding.

The only system that inherently implies anarchy is communism - a known idealistic utopia.
And every single socialistic country who attempted to start building communism did so through dictatorship, because even in a perfectly executed scenario, the only time where anarchy can function requires extremely high-trust society, which is simply not the reality we live in.
Allowing crime to happen makes turns society low-trust, meaning you will not be able establish any form of self-governance as, again, that's a system exceptionally vulnerable to bad actors exploiting it, and you're actively supporting the existence of said bad actors, undermining your own goals that way.

>>11808816
He won by default then the case was overturned and dismissed
>>11808906
Jesus Christ it’s like you literally live in a cųck chair, fuck BAM, it wasn’t violence go clutch your pearls elsewhere
>>11809032
I don’t believe in murdering them that’s ridiculous. I want them financially raped in court and physically raped in prison. You just sound like an unbelievable faggot.

>>11808044
I hope he gets raped in prison and his shitty Lego business collapses lol

>>11809035
I mean, we already have an idea of what a low trust society looks like. Have any of you walked into a store in a high crime area? Everything is behind glass literally everything. There's a Target by my old high school I used to go to pretty regularly after school. It was a normal Target when I graduated in the 2000s. Now, I need to ask an employee to unlock a case if I want to grab a Marvel Legend off the shelf.

Same thing happened to a GameStop I used to go to that was in a shittier mall. They literall6 were locking toys up in the pegs. That is before that store finally closed. Hell, Mcdonalds is apparently removing the self serve soda machines because roody poos can't help themselves and fill their water cups with soda. I recently witnessed an altercation where some redgaurd threatens to "come back later" to a Carl's Jr after a worker confronted him over stealing soda. We're talking like three cents worth of soda here.

You don't want to live in a low trust society. It just makes things entirely more inconvenient and obnoxious.

>>11809041
>>11809046
The advocating for prison rape isn't helping you disprove my point guys. The ironic thing being you'd probably be the first to give up your boy pussy if you were locked up.

I know Reckless Ben is probably in the right but I can't help but support the police cause I just want to see his face get smacked repeatedly with a baton and look at the prison aftermath pictures to laugh at his stupid zoomer face.

>>11809048
>uhmm ackschually your not disproving my points, le prison rape is bad
Niggy I don’t give a fuck. I want a corrupt business owner and his business destroyed, I think the prison rape is funny, simple as doe

>>11809041
>reading comprehension
The funny thing is that you likely think you're not below average IQ
>>11809047
Yes, I agree, but when you try to revolt you're effectively splitting society into parts. Your society and their society.
Then your society is attempting to overturn their society. It is YOUR society that has to be high-trust if you want a high-trust society after the revolution.
And it becomes increasingly more important the less centralized governance you want in the end.

For example, take Britain.
Restore Britain is an actual example of how you could potentially engineer a revolution.
They are spreading their ideas, they are making consistent, dividing, and specific promises, and they are creating a support base. They are NOT committing crime. In fact, it's their opposition who is committing most of the crime in their country.
Now, I'm not saying that there will be a Great British Revolution anytime soon, even if they could really use one, but if hypothetically Restore Britain had over 50% of public support, that would be a nearly perfect example for a successful revolution to be sparked and most importantly induce tangible change of their society.

But when you are sharding society in a way where you deliberately invite bad actors into YOUR group - which is exactly what you're doing by commending crime - you will never be able to have a high-trust society as the final product.
You have already failed the pre-requisite for that.
Even if you do revolt and you are victorious, you will just replace one low-trust society with another one because of all the bad actors you brought in along the way.

>>11809064
Amd the fact that there are people out there that share your sentiments is exactly why I made my statement about being concerned for society as a whole. Have a nice day, don't rub your two little brain cells together too hard little Timmy.

>>11808987
Why are you slanty

>>11808044
>call yourself "reckless"
>believe that you are right
>call successful businessmen "criminals"
>get sued for defamation
>lose in court
>go to jail

>>11809089
>mormons
>not criminals

>>11809089
This post reeks of unwashed garments. Imagine siding with North American Desert Jews who steal from people?

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>>11809089
>ooooo it’s another shoah— I mean Mormon massacre
>>11809048
First off it’s a bussy, not boy boy pussy boomer, and second, nigga im gay lol you’re just malding over the fact that people see the business as predatory and are calling it out. Take the L and get fucked

>>11809121
I think the business should go under after all of this and I've been getting endless enjoyment out of watching them dig their own graves. But at the same time, I'm not a teenager anymore and being overly edgy and wanting people to get raped is cringe. Go take your estrogen somewhere else faggot.

doyle was right on the money

>>11809109
Could this be the real motive behind that organized harassment and defamation scheme? That young reckless youtuber seems to be biased towards religious people.
>>11809115
>>11809121
The reckless whipster is the real jew in this story.
>he is convinced of his infallibility
>believes that he is carrying out some kind of saving mission, messiah complex
>accuses the hwite community in Utah of sticking together
>complains and vines all the time, literally can't stop kvetching
>his nose is pretty big

>>11809023
Honestly, reading through this thread, people on both sides of the argument are utterly retarded and possibly fucking insane. Take your fucking meds you retards.

>>11809174
>troon insult
Calm down gramps lol
>>11809187
>nooooo the person calling out a blatant theft is the real joooo, I’m just a good goy
>>11809192
lol naw I flushed my chlorpromazine

>>11809187
I just hate the fbi.

>>11808727
everyone knows bens a POS, even ben. but his silly retardation exposed A LOT

everything is self-inflicted on both sides, and it's fucking hilarious

>>11808927
Absence of Law would have luigi's on every corner making CEO's unable to walk the streets

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>>11809258
>oh no!

>>11809258
And?

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>>11808367
Oh poor sweet summer child. Those of us that grew up around Mormons knew exactly what was going on. Mountain jews hate us gentiles and dont really believe are laws have dominion over them. They are justified to lie, cheat, steal and even kill the gentiles if need be. They will not face judgment from God for these acts. I have known some incredibly kind and decent Mormons that were truly salt of the earth people but make no mistake they have some truly evil men that walk amongst them and even the kindest mormon will sooner see your blood shed than the worst of their own.

>>11809041
>He won by default
No, he never “won”. He filed for motion to default, was never approved.

>>11808044
>this guy got bullied so bad for his waxed villain moustache he actually cut it back

>>11808488
>>11808485
>All this for LEGO.
I'm guessing that none of them have been close enough to pussy to smell it nevertheless do other things with it.

>>11809303
Stop sucking corporate cock

>>11809187
mormons are the jews of whites

https://bricksandminifigs.com/blog/blog/2026/06/04/bricks-and-minifigs-salem-joshua-johnson-brandon-best-resignation/

OH NO NO NO NO

>>11809405
Kekaroo. Too bad for them, the damage is already done. Bot the corporation, and the individual persons are still liable for the multiple crimes they have committed. Ben can still keep making his videos and farming patreon/gofund me for legal fees, as long as he does not talk about specific details of the case he might be under a gag order about.

I hope Brian doesn't take the settlement tho. I feel like after everything they put him through, he could easily sue both the corporate management, and the store management for damages related to pain and suffering.I feel like he should walk away with a quarter mil, including the cost of the stolen merchandise

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>>11809405
>believing the methheads running a company
Lmaoing at you, you really think they fired them?

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How do people find this stuff

>>11809442
>fired
people that high up in the company don't get fired. They probably just bought him out of whatever franchise licensing agreement he had, and then parted ways amicably. The only reason they are even making a public statement about it is a PR move

>>11809448
wtf, the rabbit hole just goes deeper.

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>>11809513
They’ve been modeling magic underpants and sucking each other off for a quarter century.

>>11808053
2023: Bryan Mansell and his aging father hand over their decades-in-the-making $200,000 LEGO Star Wars collection to the Keizer/Salem, Oregon branch of Bricks & Minifigs (BAM) on a formal consignment contract.

Late 2024: The original Oregon franchise owner is forced out, and control of the store is transferred to new operators, Brandon Best and Joshua Johnson.

Late 2024: The new operators refuse to honor the Mansells' consignment agreement, keep the inventory, and refuse to return the LEGO or pay the family.

Late 2024: Bricks & Minifigs corporate intervenes and denies liability, stating that the consignment deal broke franchise rules and was an unauthorized agreement between Mansell and the previous owner.

Early 2025: Frustrated by corporate stonewalling, Mansell partners with YouTuber "Reckless Ben" (Benjamin Paul Schneider), who legally purchases the rights to the LEGO collection to pursue justice.

Early 2025: Reckless Ben begins a chaotic multi-part investigative series, deploying reality-bending stunts to force the new BAM owners to face them in court.

Mid-2025: Ben sets up mock rival businesses and orchestrates sting operations to catch BAM staff on camera making concessionary statements about the stolen collection.

Late 2025: Ben takes the local Oregon BAM franchise to small claims court over the $200,000 valuation and successfully wins a default judgment.

Late 2025: Before Ben can collect the debt, the franchise owners permanently shutter the Keizer/Salem, Oregon storefront and withdraw.

Early 2026: Ben and his crew track the franchise owners and corporate assets down to Utah, relocating their operations to serve the owners with lawsuits at their corporate headquarters.

Early 2026: The BAM owners repeatedly contact local authorities in American Fork, Utah, claiming they are being harassed and targeted by the film crew.

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>>11809533
March 2026: A 911 caller falsely claims that Ben's team is hoarding stolen property inside their rented lodging.

March 2026: Armed with a search warrant signed by Fourth District Judge Roger W. Griffin based on the tip, American Fork Police raid Ben's team's Airbnb.

March 2026: The police search fails to turn up any stolen LEGO merchandise, and nothing is seized from the home.

March 2026: Despite finding no stolen property, American Fork Police arrest Ben twice in a single night.

March 2026: Ben is formally hit with criminal misdemeanor charges in Utah, including stalking, targeted residential picketing, criminal trespass, and disorderly conduct.

Spring 2026: Ben publishes heavily viewed exposé videos alleging severe police corruption, claiming an officer dislocated his shoulder during the arrest and that bodycam footage was illegally redacted.

May 2026: American Fork Police Chief Cameron Paul releases an official 26-minute video response denying all allegations of police brutality, collusion, or misconduct.

May 2025: An internal corporate PR memo from Bricks & Minifigs leaks to the public, proving that executives are scrambling to manage the massive brand fallout.

Present (June 2026): Ben's GoFundMe has raised over $128,000 of the $200,000 goal for the Mansell family. While Ben claims he has fled to Mexico to avoid a potential five-year prison sentence, his open criminal case is still active in Utah's Fourth District Court with a scheduled appearance set for June 8, 2026.

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>(((investor))) collector spends his life savings on lego in the hopes of selling it for a massive profit to some gullible retard in the future
can someone explain to me why i'm supposed to feel sorry for the "victim" here? these people are fucking scum and completely ruin the secondary market of any collectible hobby by obsessively hoarding all copies of OOP products. i enjoy one such hobby and just a few short years ago you could find plenty of regular guys selling their old collections on ebay for fairly cheap (second hand) prices but these days while there's still plenty of the stuff around, now it's all in the hands of collectors who are reselling at much higher (collector) prices. i'm not some reddit collector, i want to play the fucking game in question but the secondary market is just completely destroyed and exploited by these people. fuck that retarded faggot for putting his life savings to such a purpose, i applaud the mountain jews for ripping him off and i hope that youtuber gets ventilated in the next raid.

>>11809516
I'm actually getting heated listening to this bald nigger's lies.
And then the faggot cops just slurping up all his obvious bullshit.
Utah, never ever.

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Can't wait for coffeezillas video. He knows how to get folk talking

>>11809561
The fucking scummy cop who knows they’re real and even says after dickhead asked to take a peek “well that kinda would put me in a legal bind” is the one that does it for me.
How many times every single fucking day do they lie and abuse the system?
A lot? I’m guessing a lot. And not just some Mormon cultists. This fucking type of cronyism exists in every fucking municipality and at every layer of the system.
The only justice is the justice you make.

>>11809612
>How many times every single fucking day do they lie and abuse the system?
thats the biggest takeaway here

is there an atomic bomb lego set? because that utah town PD is gonna drop a nvke on itself

>>11809553
That's why while I know Bricks and Minifigs is in the Wrong I don't have that much pity for the original owner.

Want to send your kid yo College put that 30g you put into lego into a Roth IRA. You'd see a better appreciation of its value and your kid gets the profits tax free.

>>11809612
>The only justice is the justice you make.
Years ago I'd be hard pressed to agree with this, but seeing how
repeat offenders get let go or people who commit major crimes end up getting slaps on the wrist...
the justice system really is unbelievably fucked.

>>11809693
not only that but "investing" in collectables carries much higher risk and cost than a boring traditional financial product. when you want to sell your "valuable" collectables you're likely going to go through a dealer with some sort of auction or consignment deal and they will hit you with a bunch of middleman fees and the reason you do that is that listing your shit yourself on ebay opens you up to the risk of getting scammed by buyers who open disputes against you to try and steal back their money after the sale. there's also the problem of liquidity, even if we assume that your "rare" collectable is worth thousands of dollars you still need to find a buyer for it, even if the entire collectable market agrees on its value that doesn't guarantee you can sell if in a timely manner. it's a market full of retards and anyone crying about being fucked on a lego deal deserves all the pain they are in whether they are the buyer or the seller.

>>11809501
Not necessarily. A company can almost ALWAYS, in basically every state, fire an employee or shut down a franchisee because of them dragging the company's name through the mud with zero legal repercussion for doing so. This bald retard was most likely told "you're fired and never allowed to work with the business again. You're free to sue us, but because you're an objective PR liability you'll never win and have to pay US in the end". That's, quite literally, how this particular scenario always works, legally-speaking. You've got innumerable cases of this, especially in the past 20 or so years.

>>11809593
>Undercutting Ben

Scummy

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>>11809284
apologize

>>11809825
>Jimmy was right all along with his schizo rants
I kneel

>>11809841
he should still just own the hammer throw and probably stop hating every single tiny blonde girl tho

today my favorite youtube video on this. Sounds way more interesting than legal eagle, despite how cringe this boomer acts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cGXNU2ny8Q

Again, while these lawyers constantly chime in on what Ben should have done, keep in note Ben had shown the legal system is so broken none of that worked. Only attentionfagging works. If anything legal scholars will be studying this for decades.

In other news, apparently the CEO has sworn off the current store owners, so there is already cracks in their mormon front.

>>11808727
Ben is an actual Based Retard

>>11809612
im not a virulent cop hater because i know that cops at the end of the day do have an important job whenever they arent waiting at the bottom of mile long hills to get someone going 6 over, but i am acutely aware that they are not your friends and its an act of god if one is going to actually help you. Cops are by far and large some of the most retarded, narcissistic, crybaby, egotistical, corrupt motherfuckers that exist and its important to never ever speak to one unless you absolutely have too, and you should do it with a lawyer present.
They wipe their ass with the constitution and belittle you when you know youre rights better than they do
>and you got your law degree where?
>ok bud, were not playing roadside court here, thats for the judge to figure out
>will make up any reason to kidnap and imprison you if there is even the slightest possible chance that they can by
Qualified immunity is the most insane thing that exists. Ignorance of the law is no excuse unless you have the power to permanently fuck up someones life. I get why they did it but Ben and frens saying anything other than nothing or "lawyer" to the cops was a huge mistake.
Any civil rights lawyer thats representing ben should have an aching cock that hasnt gone flaccid in weeks from just how blatant and maliciously purposeful the whole ordeal has been.

>>11809992
Lol good read

>>11809553
Because collectors and scalpers are not equal. You're getting pissy about scalpers and projecting that onto all collectors. Collectors care more about being a completionst or just having the sets they want, than cornering a market and acquiriing all the stock they can. and often don't even try to sell their shit, because they care more about having it than turning a profit on it, because they actually care about it, much like yourself. They also heavily support toy companies by buying more product than you do, driving more of a demand for them to fulfill. If anything, you should be more upset at the toy companies for intentionally limiting the supply, and creating opportunities for scalpers to jack up the price 2 or 3x just a month after the new sets release

>>11808727
Lol. This nigga fucked. Too bad. I really enjoyed this series

>>11808906
>The problem is that you can't challenge bad-faith abuses of the legal system with literal violence.
You absolutely can and that is in fact exactly what should be done. You cannot fight a corrupt system within the system itself, that's the whole point of a corrupt system to begin with.

The jury will pardon ben because he's doing the right thing

>>11810050
what if the entire jury is mormon

>>11808727
>yea B&M is wrong
>BUT ACTUALLY SEE HOW WRONG IT WAS FOR BEN TO DO IT LIKE THIS??
>IM GOING TO SPEND 16 MINUTES FOCUSING ON WHAT BEN DID WRONG
>AND GUYS THEY CLOSED DOWN THE STORE BECAUSE OF THE HARASEAMENT AND VANDALISM
>I BELIEVE IN THE PATHALOGLICAL LIARS IN THIS STORY
is he fucking stupid or did they cut him a check?

>>11810070
Probably some mix of both. A lot of retards seem to think people should care about Ben's ethics here. When the entire issue has to do with a company, police corruption and potential Mormon conspiracy. This has gone way beyond the actions of an individual or a group of friends.

>>11810050
You are assuming it will be a jury trial, but not all trials even have a jury. If they do go to a jury trial, either side could easily file for a mistrial on the grounds of how insanely viral this story was, and claiming it would be impossible to find an impartial jury, or that the entire jury pool has been unfairly prejudiced.

>>11810069
Like I said above, having an obviously stacked jury can easly blow up in your face. And both lawyers have the opportunityto remove potential jurors during the selection process. The people they really want are not people who are obviously prejudice, Both lawyers are looking more for gullible rubes who they can sway with their argument

>>11810086
yeah ben being a fucking retard is a separate, though hilarious, issue. a lot of adult children are unable to separate concerns, fictional or otherwise.

>>11810070
A lot of people genuinely can't grasp that the only way to handle a situation where the entire system is blatantly corrupt is to find someone who has absolutely no issue with finding every retarded loophole in that system. In generations prior it would have been some insane pseudo-terrorist, but in our modern era the play was finding someone so overtly contentpilled that he'll go to any extreme to ensure the video gets made.

>>11808053
/thread

>>11810070
>>11810139
I didn't watch the legal faggots video, but I've seen like 5 other lawyer reactions. I feel like the worst thing they can get him for is one count of interfering with a business, for that time he set up a merch table outside, and openly claimed that he successfully turned away 1 customer. Might be retarded, but yes, that still counts as interference, both in the intent and the goal. He MIGHT have enough grounds to litigate his way out of that one. But he also openly states his goal of that stunt was for them to take him to court, which implies he knew he was breaking one or more law but didn't care. Worst case scenario, I think Ben has to eat that one charge, but he can cover whaever legal fees and fines he's charged off the paetreon/gofundme. And then he can still keep pressing charges against the police and private individuals for all the other private BS

>>11810070
To be fair, Ben kind of dug himself a hole at some points. At the same time, its also helped dig BAM even bigger holes so he's taking them down in the process.
The sad part is the CEO will probably get out with a golden parachute while the rest of the company, who probably most did nothing wrong, suffers from his foolishness. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if thats his plan and why he's being such a blatantly evil person because there will be no hard consequences for him at the end.

>>11810163
Just pray for a Luigi

>>11809016
Probably most profound change of a society in history was Christianization of Rome. That was non-violent. Suppose Charlie did force the pagans to convert under the axe blade though.

Im worried about political violence. I think the elites have less than 10 years to course correct before we eat them. I think they are planning on hiding in bunkers and shit when it happens.


What worries me is Im starting to feel a sense of violence and rage. And am more and more starting to think we should just pull the trigger. It scares me because I am extremely nuanced and fair when it comes to politics. I understand history. Im a moderate. Have voted for both parties...

If im feeling this way normal people are about to explode.

>>11810160(samefag)
BUT ALSO, Ben and his team NEED to be present at the BAM settlement for it to be fully above board. PRESUMABLY according to he 1st video, Bryan sold off most or all of the remaining stock being withheld by BAM to Ben and his compatriots, with contracts and bills of sale so they could do the small claims court scheme. And they went so far as to get a notary public to stamp their bills of sale.


So here's how I think it shakes out... BAM drops ALL THE FUCKING CHARGES AGAINST EVERYONE. BAM settles with team Ben privately paying out the 100k from small claims court(which immediately goes to Brian), with the stipulation that there is a MUTUAL apology with corporate, and also he apologies to the mormon police and drops all those charges.the lawyers get their cut of gofundme/paetreon, and then Brian gets a cut, and then Ben keeps the rest.

Everyone wins except Josh, because fuck that nigger

>>11810178
Oh btw, at the recent UK protests people were throwing bricks at the police (rightly) chanting "brick by brick"

People are so fucking sick of this shit. So fucking sick...

I think at least 33% of men at least would be willing to die for the possibility of a better system, rather than continue in this one. If only because this one doesnt have hope.

You know... like just a random example. Tinder. You can debate about if its really made dating impossible or whatever. But it definitely makes peoples mental health worse, and I cant imagine it contributes positively for people looking for relationships.

So honestly, if youre a young man, and true or not, this fucking "product" has made it harder for you to find love and companionship... AND IT WAS DONE ON PURPOSE. These fucking products are DESIGNED to exploit us.

But man if you have nothing and no hope... why WOULDNT you kill the people you think created that situation.

Matter of fact i bet its more than 33% (you only need 33 to overthrow society).

Google common knowledge problem game theory. I think once something happens that makes everyone understand that everyone else is also willing to be violent... BAM. Overnight. French revolution. Producers news anchors ceos will be pulled from their houses, lynched, pulled apart by mobs, etc.

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>>11808044
Josh is fucked.
He's literally gonna get gaped in a federal prison.

>>11810191
>Oh btw, at the recent UK protests people were throwing bricks at the police (rightly) chanting "brick by brick"
Is there footage? We have to see this

>>11809061
Okay Josh.

>>11809258
If only.

God, that Josh fellow is so low iq it makes you weep for humanity how something like that can exist and have financial success in life.

>>11810178
>I think they are planning on hiding in bunkers and shit when it happens.
Yes. the 1%ers of society already own their own fully stocked doomsday bunkers that can actually survive a direct nuclear strike. Infact many of them have multiple bunkers. Because having this safety net only costs them like like 2-3% of their annual income to construct, and then .002% of their annual income to maintain at max rediness

Real real trick is that if things that bad, they need to go full Vault Tech, and have both fallible land that they run a crop rotation on, but also a maintainable working class that can work the fields, the richfags always need the poorfags

>>11810198
Im having trouble finding it. Watched the livestream. You can probably find it there.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qz8WerIw8cA

This first clip you can see some guys on the hill to the left start chucking bricks and for 10 seconds or so someone started the "brick by brick" chant.

Mostly to be funny. But this shit resonates with people for a reason. Minnisota, epstein, even that nigger Floyd.

Its incredible how out of touch the rich can become. Do they have any idea how serious this situation is for them?

>set out to get a guy's plastic bricks back
>end up unearthing a state-wide mormon corruption scandal
holy fucking based. this is the shit the internet was made for

>>11810222
This is exactly the same mentality as not giving back the legos

>>11810224
And it only goes up from here. See >>11809593

>>11808727
>>11810070
>>11808863
>>11808859
the guy in that vid is Mormon or something. look at the comments. he just wants to go viral.

>>11810170
No, repaying evil with more evil never solves anything.
The good news is the good doers in this case vastly outnumber the bad doers. Sure the bad guy(s) in this situation has a lot of power and money, but that only gets you so far in life. There's too much evidence against him that his only defense is to delay things and make things as hard as possible in facing the consequences. He'll face his just desserts though, oh don't we worry. The end result he wants is being surrounded by lots of money, attracting wicked people, little to no trust in anyone, and not many (if any) friends there to help him. He can turn that around if he does the right thing for himself and the people he's hurt, but unfortunately that doesn't seem like the road he wants to head down.
>>11810222
Its both comforting and funny knowing that despite all our differences, humans still need other humans to keep things going. And the plan to replace humans with robots is flawed since robots still need maintenance and highly advanced expertise. Making robots to fix other robots only delays the inevitability of something breaking that can't be fixed by a robot.

>>11810304
There is literally nothing wrong with killing evil "people" (ceo's).

legal eagle on YouTube clarify some stuff.
1. half the legos were sold by the lady and the family got their money for half.
2. before leaving the lady returned around 15 thousand worh of legos to the family including the cloud city Lego set worth 9k.

so 115 thousand dollars worth of the collection are accounted for. not defending BAM. but that fact matters

so BAM still has 85 thousand dollars worth of Legos. but the family would only get 65% of that
the family is owed 55,250 dollars right now.

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We fucking won.

>>11810338
shut up loser stinky cuckold faggot

>>11810223
>donald trump shirt

>>11810170
Is that the guy who got beat up by a group of ladyboys?

>>11810348
It's the guy that got the healthcare ceo that had his ai deny claims for three year old kids dying from cancers

>>11809067
Remember CHOP/CHAZ? kek

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>>11810338
The oranges, Jeremy...

Ammon is a fucked name as is. And incredibly ironic to have as a Mormon. In the Bible and the Torah, Ammonites were the descendants of incest through Lot, who fucked both the thots he called daughters. Ammonites worshipped Milcom, Molech, Moloch, offering their offspring up for slaughter.

>>11810352
didn't do enough because I just read about UnitedHealthcare suing doctors mid surgery lmao

>>11810070
bone to pick with people telling him hes retarded on twitter

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>>11810356
I'll never get over that time their armed vigilantes literally executed two black kids who stole a car and were tearing the place up.
Like the huge anarchist commune which formed because they we so angry over 1 (one) black person being killed, went and killed 2 (two) black people.

>>11810338
>we
I'm not one of you, faggets.

>>11810222
But right now they are living like kings, the fly jets to have sushi for breakfast in Japan then fuck children at night. What will they have when it all collapses? Land?

>>11810011
i specified investor collectors, it's actually the first word of the post.

When Mormons are involved, it's never a bad time to bring up the CES letter.

https://cesletter.org

if ben was black there would be riots in the streets right now

why are blacks so fucking racist

>>11810404
Ever hear of Salo?

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>>11810526
What sets you guys getting next chimp out?

>>11810320
Imagine ruining your entire brand over 55k lmfao

>>11810185
>BAM drops ALL THE FUCKING CHARGES AGAINST EVERYONE
But that sets a precedent. You think this is the first time theyve stolen legos?

>>11810222
If I worked in a billionaires bunker, id kill the billionaire. Thats my bunker now

Is the arrest warrant still up?

>>11810338
>gets buckbroken by two canadians and becomes lolcow

>>11810582
The shitters thought they could get away with it because they probably did it already many times, but once a guy who's income depends on generating views got involved they were fucked

>>11810338
paying for 4chanbots now too? man, things must be getting rough for the orange fool

>We will make it right and give you your money and leftover legos if you sit down and sign a NDA that if you ever talk about this again we will sue you
Epik

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This nigger looks like an actual fucking crack head, sitting there trying to grin without any fucking teeth

>>11810743
This is why you just luigi him

>>11810758
He reminded me so much of Kurt Metzger lol

>>11810639
>But that sets a precedent.
The precedent that the company will fold when literally the entire world is shitting on them for their obviously corrupt practices? Nigger, that's not a precedent, that's just common fucking sense. These types of undisclosed settlements happen all the time, and the BEST thing they can do for the company is to wrap it up, from every angle, and just be done with it as fast as they can. Any single loose end they leave is going to be something for the public to latch onto, and just keep the bad PR going

>>11810758
BALD AND PIG-LIKE

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>>11810320
>legal eagle
>Just repeats what everyone already knows

New Ben vlog video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRw04ibXqHU
You know the more Ben goes into detail about everything, the more sketchy everything looks.

Also B&M released a timeline:
https://bricksandminifigs.com/blog/blog/2026/06/04/bricks-and-minifigs-salem-store-timeline/
I mean take it with a grain of salt, but taking the above Ben video into account this is looking a little sus.

Man, if it turns out Chrystal actually was the big bad all along and everyone has been wrong and it's all completely fucked up and there's just defamation suites everywhere I'm gonna lol out loud

>>11810834
>Man, if it turns out Chrystal actually was the big bad all along and everyone has been wrong and it's all completely fucked up and there's just defamation suites everywhere
Under literally no circumstances can that be the case. If it were, B&M could have EASILY fought it in court, and wouldn't need Mormon police corruption to cover their asses.

>>11810837
I mean to be fair she was atleast $97k in debt to B&M, a Portland antifa member, and her and her cuck husband publish commie books about bashing the fash and they were planning to leave the country because they were worried orange man was going to come and kill them. So she's not exactly a trustworthy individual.

>>11810834
When they told the Bricks CEO that they had created a company and not responsible for what their franchises do and he looked at them like that and acknowledged it, I knew this was all fucking intentional from the top down. The woman is a scapegoat and you have an extra chromosome or two.

>>11810843
>So she's not exactly a trustworthy individual.
That doesn't change the fact that if B&M had any actual leg to stand on regarding her being the problem they would have argued that long before now.

>>11810843
>>11810837
>>11810834

she also was said to allegedly not pay her rent or other duties and also didn't pay some of her other clients. it's just a bad situation.

>>11810849
That sure is a lot of NO GROUND TO STAND ON, B&M shill.

>>11810846
Mayhaps,
I'm just putting it out there. But you gotta admit if that twist came true it would be fucking hilarious.

>>11810850
no it's not about defending BAM. but the lady owner could be sued too. double sued, sue bam, sue the lady.

>>11810834
>Man, if it turns out Chrystal actually was the big bad all along and everyone has been wrong and it's all completely fucked up and there's just defamation suites everywhere I'm gonna lol out loud
Not going to happen. For it to be defemation, the statements being said have to be made either with intentional bad faith, or reckless disregard for the truth. Ben has the defense of attempting to talk it out in good faith at the begining, and they told him nothing. BAM has the defense of saying the fattest crack baby in the world lied to them, and they were attempting to act in their own best interest given the facts. The police have the defense of qualified immunity. And Crystal has the defense of being outside the jurisdiction of the state of Oregon.

>>11810758
How did this pig looking subhuman enchant the cops to do his bidding and follow his every command?
He says the court order is fake and the girl is a fraud and the cop just goes "well, i guess that's that?" and walks away.

>>11810873
rizz

>>11810873
Mormons

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>>11810866
SUE EVERYONE

>>11810873
Cult.

>>11810873
ben looks and sounds like a fag from commiefornia and the process server had tattoos and piercings in her face and shit. they just look like disgusting people which is compounded by him admitting to being a youtuber making a video. the first instincts of the police would have been to move that fag along and run him out of town back to portland or san francisco or whatever pozzed shithole he crawled out of. that's what they wanted to do before they even heard josh's story.

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>>11810834
based bioweapon retard, too clueless to do anything underhanded while burning down the state of utah

>>11811143
Do you think Ben smashed the girl? Apparently, she was a viewer (who he never met before)

>>11810834
hmmm... not sure what to think about this... Ill wait for the moist critical take.

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>>11811131
>Cult.

>>11811224
I just want to see B&M shot just so I can buy cheaper bricks, and now you too.

any BAM employees walking out? or do they still want to be mormon

>>11811156
He has a long term gf who's much hotter and is privy to his antics.

>>11811156
If he was smart, he didn't, so that they could keep claiming she was an entirely unrelated 3rd party. But he probably coulda if he wanted too. Girls don't go meet up with a guy off the internet, and spend 2+ days sitting in a car with him unless they are DTF

>>11811382
or are fucked in the head, in his lucifier valentine video some fangirl he got to help ended up getting brainwashed by the guy he was tracking and she turned on him lmao

>>11811317
>walk out on a job in this economy

>>11810360
Ackshually Lot's daughters raped him.

>>11811426
Erm, akchually women cannot commit rape. He was an older male, and therefore he is clearly in the wrong, Don't @ me

Coffeezillas video is 51 minutes, he has unseen footage and interviews with everyone

Just watched the lego queen bit.

>>11811478
how legit is that guy? i can never tell whats the truth and whats being embellished for the sake of clickbait with modern youtubers. i take one look at his obnoxious ass thumbnails and i'm immediately turned off

We at /biz/ hate Coffeezilla

>>11811482
He's legit and is thorough unlike Reckless ben and Bam. Back when the save the kids scam was going on coffee interviews everyone, showed all the evidence, block chains etc. He does larp as a down in the dumps detective sometimes
Also le youtuber le click bait fuck off install the declickbait Firefox extension or read the newspaper, oh wait none of them care enough to cover this

>>11811488
Biz thinks they're the ones doing the rug pulls lmao

>>11811489
Is he an actual career detective or just some internet sleuth with production value?

>>11811499
yes.

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>>11811538
Yes. As stated above, Ammon is a very mormon name, and mormons are all thieves and liars and sexual deviants. But their religion teaches them that that's okay. So obviously you can probably find a couple dozen Ammons who have stolen lego. It's meer coincidence that they stole the same ammount

>>11811499
watch his shit and come up with your own conclusion instead of being a massive spoonfed zimzoomer fidget spinner retard fuckface

god fuck you

>>11811538
Are they targeted by a gang of fraudsters extorting money?

Serious question. One of the first thoughts that came to my mind on this matter was: is there a connection between the alleged Lego owner and the former store owner?

>>11811686
Ok, the picture is misleading. Those are totally different cases.

But my question still stands.

>>11811555
Why is "-mon" so common? Are mormons fans of Digimon?

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>>11811701
His brother and him eventually went to work for their dad's tax evasion fake-law firm. They tried to oust daddy mcneff in 2021 also using fake legal threats, but got out-mormon'd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77CmMmkQvC0

>>11811478
most likely his vid is going to be outdated.
so much more shit is happening fast

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>>11811780
Extremely out of context. He's saying the half assed copycats harassing random stores need to stop.

>>11808906
>Vigilante justice is a very romantic idea
Because it works better than the legitimate system in a lot of cases. Especially this one.
>because allowing individuals make judgements personally and execute upon them ALWAYS led to problems.
Oh, such as when people are corrupt and abuse the "legitimate" systems to get what they want at the expense of others.

Vigilantism and legitimate systems are both dysfunctional if they serve selective interest instead of the interests of the public. They're both capable of being bad actors.

You're arguing for the status quo even though is demonstrably broken and advantages the players with the deepest pockets.

>>11811815
Guess how I can tell you're underage?

There is literally nothing wrong with vigilantism.
If they're still operating under the B&M name they are the enemy and deserve everything coming to them.

>>11811865
Are you retarded? He's objectively correct. Vigilantism is a necessary LAST RESORT. A proper system will solve most things in due time, but some stuff falls through the cracks and forces peoples proverbial hand. In this particular case of financial theft and HIGHLY corrupt law enforcement, it was inevitable. If you don't like that, then you go take it up with the Fork County Police Department and get them to change their ways- oh way, that's the entire fucking problem, you knuckle-dragging mongrel.

>>11811556
I kneel
>>11811780
Wild that folk are fighting complete strangers that have nothing to do with the legos lmao. If he got these videos before everyone else. What other videos does coffee have

>>11811912
Imean, I wouldn't exactly call what Ben is doing vigilante justice. I do think he went about things in a way that was much more preformitive than it needed to be for clicks, not that I don't like that because it sure is fuck was entertaining, but those actions come with consequences, I would not be surprised if Ben was charged with harassment or something else after all this is said and done. If it were me, I would've called their bluff and went to court with them over that and then thrown my legal fees into their settlement and since it's such a cut a dry case, would've surely won. Ben did things the way he did because he knew it would be entertaining and that's fine, in fact his level of entertainment is what garnered such a huge following for the case, so he isn't without merit, but he isn't without blame either.

But to my original point, being a goofball and making YouTube videos that are borderline harassing someone isn't being a vigilante. Actual vilgilantism is what you see with Luigi and we absolutely can not have people just murdering other people in the streets because they felt like it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating for the United Healthcare guy, I'm advocating for not murdering people in the streets in cold blood.

>>11811919
>making YouTube videos that are borderline harassing someone isn't being a vigilante.
What was the reason for the harassment

>>11811923
To get clicks

>>11811925
>clicks
Are you german, is this why you believe the law is the absolute and everything should be done orderly. The system in America is flawed
The reason was to get the lego and money back.

>>11811928
I know that he made the videos to get the Legos back, but anyone with half a brain would've just called out their bluff about them dragging out the court case and just tacked on whatever legal fees to the settlement. It's not weird or out of the ordinary to do that, the judge would probably just do it regardless since there is so much evidence against BAM. This is what Bryan should've done frankly. I understand he wasn't in a financial situation to do so and that he was freaked out about disappointing is dying father, I get it. But, this is still what any adult in this situation would've and should've done. Hell, it's what Ben should've done himself but he decided to take it to small claims court in the most convoluted way possible in order to make the video interesting. I mean, it makes for an interesting video, but really when you step back and actually look at the situation, almost everything he did was as performative as he could make it. So yeah, he did things the way he did things for the views. And that's fine. But let's not pretend he's some vigilante or something lol. He's a YouTuber who chased an interesting story, no different than a reporter doing it for a newspaper back in the day.

>>11811919
>would've called their bluff and went to court with them over that and then thrown my legal fees into their settlement and since it's such a cut a dry case

You would have waited years and years to see your day in court and accumulated hundreds of thousands in debt not to mention the man hours you would have spent. Additionally the judge does not have to grant you that request at all. One of the main reasons the video is so popular in the first place is because the American justice system is FUCKED and everyone watching (Americans) know that. The original guy was even told this directly by lawyers.

>>11811944
>You would have waited years and years to see your day in court and accumulated hundreds of thousands in debt not to mention the man hours you would have spent
Yes. I mean they were taking loans for their little small courts deal so why not do that for your up front legal fees that you'll get paid back at the end of everything? Because it's a whole lot less performative and doesn't get him YouTube views.


>Additionally the judge does not have to grant you that request at all
In this case though, why wouldn't they? With all the evidence of clear malicious intent, I see no reason not to.

>One of the main reasons the video is so popular in the first place is because the American justice system is FUCKED and everyone watching (Americans) know that.
While the system is indeed flawed, it is not nearly as flawed and corrupt as the world likes to think it is. I know it's entertaining to pretend we're all living in Gotham City and that the system is out to get you, but in my years, I've found, more often than not, if you play the game, it'll work out for you. Learning how to play the game in your favor is much easier and less destructive than trying to break the game outright.

>>11811949
I hope you find yourself in this situation yourself because it's the only way some people learn. It's crazy to me how some can't learn through observation and only know fire burns after touching it themselves.

Beyond that we will simply have to agree to disagree.

>>11811952
>Wishing something negative to happen to someone just because they disagree with you on the Lego BAM scandal
Jesus Christ my guy, grow up. This is why I can't take any of you goobers seriously.

>>11811956
Why are you mad? It wouldn't be that hard, just a couple of small loans from your friends at the back, easy cash really...

>>11811966
Lmao you're trying too hard now buddy. You've also lost the plot and stopped actually arguing my points back at me so I think now's about time to call it a day. Feel free to reply and get the last word in if it's that important to you, but we're getting nowhere with this discussion now. Have a good day little Timmy.

>>11811971
kek not even the same anon, but it's funny how you where looking for an out, what a faggot

>>11811694
That's just because Digimon writers are lazy.

>>11808044
I do not know who that is

>>11812111
The CEO of Lego, he raped a little kid.

>>11812117
so he's just mormon?

so, the vigilantes were sent by B&M

>>11812232
Typical glowies

>>11811971
You are being mocked by multiple people I'm afraid.

>>11808044
aieee! I will never insult mormon again.

>>11809357
>Being truthful is sucking corporate cock
You're unironically doing more for corporate than he is.

Why are people ignoring the fact that the boomer was obviously just buying this shit to resell later at a higher price. Barely a step up from a scalper

>>11812506
because mormons are bigger cunts than scalpers could ever dream of being

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I didn’t see this card dropping.

lolwut the unredacted police footage was accidentally released by the American Fork Police themselves?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7WY2hKwVbk

>>11812814
yes lol

>>11812508
No Mormon has ever inconvenienced me like a scalper has.

>>11812881
Fuck off poorfag, if you can't afford scalper prices then get out of the hobby and get a second job. Scalping only exists because the companies themslves don't charge the correct price for the product, so scalpers can make a profit on the resell. once that course corrects you won't be able to pay either way

>>11811815
>Because it works better than the legitimate system in a lot of cases. Especially this one.
See, you don't understand the difference between a system and an anecdote.
Vigilante justice absolutely does not work "better than the legitimate system in a lot of cases". In fact, it almost never works.
It doesn't work 99.99% of cases, at least not in the form you would describe as "working".

Violent robbery is also a form of vigilante justice you see - how could a poor soul righting the wrongs their fate threw at them undeservingly at the expense of hypocritical moneybags who barely even qualify for being human not be just?
Who are you to judge them? In fact, the mere idea of you daring to perceive any sort of agency over their actions definitely proves you are a disgusting animal who deserves being put down along with your entire disgusting bloodline.

You see, the problem with vigilante justice is that it's entirely self-referential.
The vast, vast majority of people who (You) would personally agree with being branded as disgusting pieces of shit and/or criminals by our society - those people themselves would not agree with that description.
Sure, some rare exceptions who genuinely believe they do "evil" and find joy in that fact exist, but a good chunk of those truly think that they didn't do anything wrong, or maybe they are even completely righteous and justified.
Most find it easy to justify stealing. You probably can do that as well.
Fewer people would justify general violence, but it would still be a good chunk of our society.
Fewer still would justify violence with a goal of material gain. Fewer, yet very far from zero.
And "zero" is the number you will never reach going down this list.
Abuse, imprisonment, torture, enslavement, rape, murder, against anyone at any age and social status - there will always be people who will find perfectly sound reasons - for them at least - to justify all of those actions.

had to break it up in two parts

>>11811815
I did explicitly agree that it (i.e. vigilante justice in the way Ben did it) indeed worked in this specific case, hence why I said I'm glad Ben did what he did, despite all of the faults of his process I can name.
The intended way would've required the victim of the lego situation to effectively have a solid legal background to solve "properly", which is not a reasonable ask. The system was deliberately abused against him.
But when you are making the mistake of conflating an outlier anecdote with a systematic approach, you are pretty much inviting people I have described in >>11812909
And you might think
>surely no one is ridiculous enough to justify murdering innocent?
but when people glorify bad actors like Luigi, statistically more people get pushed into acting.
The larger the pool of those people grows, the higher is the absolute number of people I'm describing will become. The ones who are perfectly capable of justifying acts you and most would see as heinous, criminal, and completely unforgivable.
And when they act on those justifications, it will not be pretty - and you will be among the romantic fools who pushed them into acting.

Law, at its origin is a form of vigilante justice done right.
A society comes together and agrees on a set of rules that the vast majority is satisfied with - because if the vast majority is dissatisfied, you'll eventually get a revolution.
All systems have their trade offs, and law is no exception. It becomes more and more convoluted, it becomes harder for a layman to interact with and easier for a professional to exploit, but the core idea doesn't change - law protects what a given society deems as right, moral, and just.
The idea to normalize bypassing said law via vigilante justice is nothing but a suggestion of replacing societal values with the values of an individual, and everyone who doesn't understand the extreme danger of that is simply shortsighted.

>>11812913
what caused luigi? it's not gonna solve itself
are we to forget history?

>>11812913
I would rather a Luigi be in charge if this is what justice means.
Laws don’t protect people, laws don’t solve crimes, and laws don’t give you back what you’ve lost.
The only justice in the world is the justice you take.

>>11812506
That's not what scalping is, Josh. Scalping is taking something just released and reselling it back in the same short period hoping to FOMO people because you've bought up all the stock.

What this guy did is called INVESTING for reselling. He bought sets years ago before scalping niggers like you were even a thing for Lego. And he STORED the sets for YEARS as they slowly accrued value.

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>>11812939
This type of rhetoric is so fucking concerning. Like holy shit. The worst part is, because this goober is posting on /toy/ with this type of mindset I have to assume you're a child living with your parents and any perceived negativity in your life is blamed on "the system". Sorry to break it to you sweetheart. But we have hundreds of years of evidence proving that rule of law works. Take away that law and you get anarchy. Sure you agree with vigilante justice when you align with it. Why wouldn't you agree with the condemnation of a crooked CEO who demies people health care. But what happens if some spook decides your dad needs to die because he didn't serve him fast enough at the restaurant he works at? Or that your mom derves to die because she dared to get in front of some thirdie in line at the grocery store. Orr that you yourself deserve to die because you're a snivling man child discussing children's toys all day? I don't think you'd be very quick to side with vigilantism if it was something you didn't align with. The other guy is completely right.

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>>11813024
>have to assume you're a child living with your parents and any perceived negativity in your life is blamed on "the system”
I’ll tell you the same thing my conservative fundamentalist Christian principal told me in 2002 when I said “I assumed you were getting us ready for college?!”
“You know what they say when you assume? You take the first three letters and the middle letter and then the last two letters…”
Me- “What then you’re an ass and I’m an ass and you and I are both asses?”
That little act of free speech earned me a Saturday detention.
Your assumptions belie your own youth. I bet you’re that faggot cop from earlier too?
After this site turned to shit a lot of us scattered from /b/ but you’d be surprised how many true oldfags are just hanging out on blue boards.
I was here before you roodypoos and candyasses could use the internet and I’ll be here after you’re gone.

>>11813052
>I once rolled doubles four times in a single thread

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>>11813055
See the old magic still works.
>no no we need laws and shit
Fuck you glowie.
>run them over with your car

>>11812665
desu it rejects the Trinity technically making it heretical

>>11813052
>Look at me look up old memes from before I used 4chan
>I totally went to school in 2002.
Sure thing lil guy.

>>11813069
>look up old memes
I guess if you mean “look them up” on my old thinkpad that’s still going strong running windows 7… sure.
That’s clearly a picture of my computer I took with my phone but okay you’re new.

Kek I hope these retards get taken down, I brought Bens shirt. Takes me back to highschool when I got shamed for not wanting to show up to seminary, meanwhile the molly Mormons were sucking their boyfriends dick every chance they had. Retarded ass religion

>>11813079
Lol bro is trying real hard to fit in lol. The fact that you decided to focus on me falling you a child is the most telling lmao.

>>11813021
No but they are going to blame it on Ben anyway

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>>11808367
Listen carefully

>Scenario A Consignment is not allowed
>Then that means Bryan's LEGO that are currently at the franchise branch is not property of BAM
>ergo give them back

or

>Scenario B Consignment is allowed
>Bryan wants his LEGO back as per consignment rules
>ergo give them back

The moment it was proven that Bryan's property/LEGO was in the store, BAM has to give them back regardless

That little weasel of a CEO needs to be skinned alive then roasted over a fire

>>11812913
>Law, at its origin is a form of vigilante justice done right.
lawyers are not out raged by the self leaked footage of Josh and Ammon colluding with the police to not only have Josh not served legal papers, but to also have Ben arrested for doing so. This is such a blatant abuse of power and the legal system the law means nothing.

Josh could say Ben had cried wolf, but all he fucking had to do was take the legal papers. Of course he couldn't because then he would have to argue in court over the video taped phone conversation with Ben why Josh (1) refused to give out his phone number (2) couldn't give a straight answer whether he had the legos or not (3) then fucking bargains with Ben asking for an apology. Recording someone without their consent would mean everything Ben did would have been illegal in the state of Pennsylvania, but apparently Utah is too stupid to pass a similar law.

>>11813209
>>11813024

The fact that Josh was even aware of the legal papers proved he was served, but the fact that we needed self leaked footage from the police department to prove all that just shows what a farce of a legal system we have. The rule of the document means nothing if people in power can interpret it how ever they want.

When that cop came back to Ben saying Josh didn't want the papers, Ben should have just ask the police officer to identify himself on video and verbally agree that Josh has been served the papers. Then Ben could have gone to court and said "I tried". Ben couldn't even be permitted to do that, BY THE POLICE. Bureaucrats will literally hand you the dynamite to blow yourself up all the while doing it with a straight face and saying "we're just following the law and this is what the law says you need to do".

In other news Ammon has offered to return all the legos, but I wouldn't trust this shifty Mormon as far as I could throw up. I wouldn't trust a lego handoff unless it was under the eye of an uncorrupt federal judge in a federal court room. Ammon has shown he'd go back on every deal and will per-sabotge any battle field you agree to meet him on.

>>11808367
>Previous owners
Yeah so I don’t think anyone is disputing that the Antifa junkie scum caused all of this. The issue is that they’re poor junkies that embezzled the money to shoot into their arms and have since fled the country. There is zero reason for anyone to bother trying to take them to court firstly because they definitely won’t show and secondly because they will never pay back what they stole. The issue is that some of the collection is demonstrably still in the stores possession and the Mormons decided to twist the knife on the collection owner and keep his shit to recover losses instead of eating it themselves.
>He should have compensated the owner and given the rest back
Correct. When you have a case of embezzlement the burden of seeking civil relief is kept with the business victimized by the embezzler not the customer. This is the real crux of the issue. They don’t want to take the L for repossessing a business that won’t be profitable for probably a decade after the all damage the Antifa junkies did. Instead of eating it as a bad deal and seeking restitution in court they have decided to tank their entire franchise and themselves. They’re retarded.
>They would have been heroes
Well victims but yeah they would have saved themselves a ton of money and reputational damage. In the business world this went from negligence and due diligence failings to scummy corporate lawyer bullying to outright civil and criminal liability. If Bricks and Minifigs were publicly traded this retard would have been catapulted out of his office by the board.

>>11813215
Josh is going to be the biggest loser in all this.
>Interfering with a process server
Class B Misdemeanor in Utah. Yes repeatedly calling the police for trespassing and can be considered interference.
>Knowingly supplying false information to an officer to frame someone for a crime
This was done in both the heroine claim and the swatting and is again a class B misdemeanor with potential to be upgraded into a class A. With the recording he has of Josh in the latter account he can show clear intent. Under Utahs accomplice liability statute anyone that encourages or aids in this can also be charged.
>Swatting
That’s the big one. That’s a felony charge and Ben can show clear intent here.

The American Fork PD is also completely fucked based on their own actions but nobody is expecting actual criminal charges I don’t think. Just some Mormons getting fired and replaced by other Mormons and a lawsuit.

is the ceo going to jail ?

>>11813254
If they find communication during discovery/search warrants that he intentionally or directed someone to provide false information to police, obstructed justice, etc. but from a criminal standpoint he’s the least culpable from what I have seen. From a civil aspect he is fucked.

>>11813278
what is the difference between criminal and civil here

Is the CEO still suing Bryan for all his gofundme proceeds or has that lawsuit been dropped? Absolute Chad if he is.

>>11813350
who knows he says a different thing every day

>>11810192
They took down the video of him trying to wow the cops by stating he was on the mormon high council due to "privacy concerns"

>>11811156
Nah, the chick he's been with for years is damn gorgeous, so I doubt he'd give a single fuck about any other woman.

>>11810192
lol no. his buddies will get him out.

>>11810220
Story of Modern America for you

Just shoot him.

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>>11809636
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005012389192525.html

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>>11813584
lmao

>>11813209
>lawyers are not out raged by the self leaked footage of Josh and Ammon colluding with the police
But they are, though?
Every single coverage of these events, even the coverages primarily negative of Ben clearly state that the police has to be investigated and wasn't acting in accordance with law.
You're inventing a scenario that doesn't exist.
>Ben couldn't even be permitted to do that
Well, he eventually was, because the papers were ultimately served three days later one way or another - it's just not included in that specific video, but it's a part of the process they did go through.

The official procedure of serving papers is required as a safeguard against plaintiffs unilaterally abusing the default judgement mechanism which, in its turn, is a safeguard against the defendant just ignoring the lawsuit.
It can be abused in the opposite direction, where the papers are deliberately "served" in such a manner, the defendant is never actually informed about the ongoing court case until they lose it on a default judgement.
There were numerous precedents of said abuse happening, so extra steps for confirming the defendant was truly informed about the lawsuit were put in place.
Josh "refusing" the papers is borderline theatrical and isn't how it really works, because the system has tools against these theatrics as well - hence why he did end up being served eventually.
Now the police actually picking up the papers, confirming they are real, and knowing Josh's identity as the defendant, yet proceeding to not serve papers is likely an actual breach of written law and not in a way where their usual qualified immunity would apply, so here it's likely possible to press charges, but then again, unless the law states otherwise, it's unlikely to be a big enough deal to bother with, going for the wider case of collusion/corruption/malpractice and keeping this anecdote as a part of the evidence is likely a better idea.

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>>11811326
>>11813475
>anons claim ben has a gorgeous gf
>look her up
>it's just some average looking chink
You yellowfeverfags are something else

>>11813885
She's much better in motion. Her facial expressions, body language, etc. Besides, any chick that's willing to put up with a guy like Ben is a ride or die type through and through.

how do i become a mormon? seems like they can do whatever the fuck they want in utah

>>11813977
You will never be THAT Mormon as a convert unfortunately. These people grew up going to elementary and highschool together, spent every single Sunday and each morning at seminary with each other, went off to missions where they stood next to each other in the urinals to make sure they weren't playing with themselves, and then attended BYU together.

>>11813350
>Chad if he is.
If he is his company is officially over.

did they get the spammer