>>11810215
Fuck off spammer, we already have one french pedo ruining the catalog

>>11810215
It's not that weird. When a product is really popular, really collectable, and potentially really valuable there's obviously going to be tons of people buying and selling it on the secondhand market, enough that you could open up a store just for that.

>>11810215
Surely, we needed another thread about this...

Clean it up.

>>11810215
It's not surprising when you've seen all the dedicated pop vinyl stores out there.

>>11810215
I just can't believe there are so many adults who play with lego and are willing to spend so much money on it and commit crimes over it. The lego section at my target has all the product locked down and alarmed. None of the other toys are like this.

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>>11810457
>hey anon do you want to check out this new toy store that just opened I know you're into that
>ask if it's a real toy store or a pop and marvel slop shop
>they dont understand the question
>pull out a diagram explaining what pop slop is and what an actual toy store should be
>"haha its a good toy store sir"
>arrive, its a pop slop shop.

>>11810678
Walmart has their collectible toys in the electronics section, in their own little metal caged jells, behind locks and keys, with the locked electronics.

Only the cheap plastic kiddie shit is on the shelves.

>>11811518
I want to see this diagram of yours

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Damn this controversy has gotten out of hand

>>11811518
I remember the ancient times when you could walk in a toy store and find aisles full of action figures and their play sets, both original and licensed IP. What do you see now? Walls of funkos and have baked chinese rip offs that break in two seconds.

>>11812699
>toys gotta be either high end porcelain display case items or cheap breakable plastic crap
take me back.

>>11813619
My kid is turning four soon and I wanted to take her to an actual toy store so she could pick out her own big gift, but there just aren't any around worth going to. It saddens me that she's excited to go to Target of all places because that's one of the few places left that physically sells actual toys.

.....she also loved going to our local BAM, but I question whether it's worth going back to a place that shady.

>>11813619
>>11813635
Damn, Americans are poor and retarded for thinking video games were worth anything when all it did was turn iPad babies into retards

>>11813669
I think you're in the wrong thread or something, no one here cares about ipads and no one mentioned video games. Did you hit your head and forget what board you wanted to post on or something?

>>11813684
Its the third worlder who posts random streams of consciousness, usually totally unrelated to the comment he's replying to.

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>>11810215
>>11810243
It's simple, really

>>11813635
Target has like two isles of toys, but back in the day you had like 10 isles dedicated to 5 different age groups. And a toy store was jammed backed. I remember when terminator judgement day came out they had a whole isle dedicated to it. You'd also get weird shit like this TMNT knock off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18IQcEqc1zo

>>11813931
>Target has like two isles of toys
...The hell kind of area do you live in? Even the most out of the way Targets I've been to had an aisle and a half for Lego alone. Which I have to assume is standard because they're a big corporate department store with constant and consistent merchandising guidelines being sent out.
>>11813635
It is still really fucking sad that Target is basically the best thing left outside of small local toy stores, though. Especially with Macy's falsely advertising the good name of Toys R Us like Buffalo Bill slinking around in his girlskin dress.

>>11814066
Yea, every target basically has the same layout these days, especially the toy section. They always have their large Lego/Building/learning section toys, then one of cars and nerf guns, one and a half of action figures, one and a half of dolls and then the toddler toy section.

As soon as TRU fell, *every* target essentially gutted their toy sections to fit more clothing aisles in, since cloths offer them way better returns. You can cram dozens of shirts on one rack, they costs pennies to produce and purchase but can be sold for absurd prices and still fly off the shelves. Toy sections are just there so moms have someplace to toss the kids while they spend hours looking for *that* shirt in their size.

>>11813704
Its unironically over. Dick and minifags are dead as a franchise, ben is going to jail and the money will be confiscated, while the ceo and owner will weasel out and go on to leave consequence free in another company

>>11815725
Just luigi both

>>11815725
Nah, Ben will just get some fines at the worst, he never actually committed any real felonies. Now that he's actually be served, that order against him will have to stand trial and any half decent lawyer will point out the worst claims made against him were entirely false and that order will get tossed right out the window. Meanwhile he's got hours of video evidence and plenty of documentation showing BAM and police corruption, while the first owners who are also suing BAM will be easily able to prove they did nothing wrong, were illegally forced out and that the whole thing was orchestrated by the corporate office right from the start.

If Ben was really in that much trouble, this whole thing wouldn't have blown up so much. Nobody cares if some internet nobody gets tossed in jail. But because it's a massive corporation pulling some incredibly petty stunts with a paper trail that clearly shows their wrongdoing, combined with viable evidence that also implicates massive police corruption, this entire situation will go places.

>>11815798
Nobody is going to do that, Luigi only did what he did because he had serious medical physical health problems and high medical bills. Luigi was backed into a corner of either dying painfully while broke or taking his pain out on someone else.

>>11816352
So then just murder them like a normal person.

>>11816439
Honestly nobody, even the crazies are going to jump to extremes yet. Reckless Ben still has a trial to win. If he loses, there probably still won't be someone crazy enough to "get even" with the Bricks and Minifigs Ceos. And if they is a slight chance of someone willing to risk a prison sentence over Legos, they will never be competent to actually achieve what they want

Details for the PR company paying this faggot to spam here.

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Dont fuck with 4chan retards.

>>11816439
>like a normal person.
When has someone Murdered someone like a normal person, especially in this era?

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>>11816580
Looks like a mexijew.
I wonder who Lego uses?

Has anyone seen the Coffeezilla video yet? It's on his patreon.

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Soon

>>11817028
Pedophile.
>>11816580
Next can you find the info of the homosexual that’s continually spamming out lego generals?

>>11817000
It's on Youtube now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKfQkRbd15k
The McNeffs are trying really fucking hard to pass the buck to Chrystal.

>>11816857
That actually looks uncanny...like it was created with AI.

Important highlights from the Coffeezilla video:
>Ammon and his brother are saying Chrystal stole the legos
>the consignment contract says that most of the collection would be held in an (unspecified) off-site storage location for security reasons; Ammon says this proves they weren't in the store that night
>Chrystal says that after they got safes for the store they just started putting the collection in the safes, and has photos of the legos inside a safe
>an employee of the Eugene, OR BAM location (owned by Brandon and Josh) told Coffeezilla that he spent 4 hours unpacking legos from a u-haul truck that Brandon Best drove from Salem
>Brandon allegedly told this employee that Chrystal "stole a ton of legos and fled the country"
>Chrystal says she saw a u-haul outside the store on the night she was driven out
>Matt McNeff (the CEO, Ammon's brother) says there was no u-haul, just a regular rental car, and that he saw security footage from that night and is certain there was no u-haul in the parking lot
>Coffeezilla found a u-haul very plainly visible in security cam footage from that night, just outside the store's windows
>Ammon, when confronted with this, says two things: Brandon had previously driven a u-haul containing unrelated legos a few weeks before the store handover and the employee was confused about the dates, and Brandon was driving a u-haul on the night of the handover because his rental couldn't tow the trailer he was camping in
>Ammon provides a photo Brandon took of the odometer when he returned the truck to the rental place, timestamped only 3 hours after he left the store and apparently containing a valid geolocation
>Ammon says they have been working with Bryan to resolve this for months but he has refused to provide any paperwork... except the inventory list and contract, which is just "a start"
>Ammon claims they had no point of sale data (the spreadsheet was hosted on corporate's google drive account)
(cont)

>>11817091
>there are lots of sold legos in the POS system that perfectly match items in the collection, but were not marked as part of the consignment deal - it appears huge numbers of legos WERE sold before Chrystal handed over the store, but Bryan wasn't compensated for them
>Chrystal is on camera on the night of the takeover saying that she needed to take the sales data with her so she could pay Bryan for already-sold legos, so corporate knew about this
>there were an insanely high number of layaway sales that were never fully paid off
>apparently layway is extremely rare for BAM to do
>Josh claims there were only 2-3 layaway sales on record when he took over the store, but Chrystal says there were way more, supported by the POS records
>the total value of the legos is around $105,000, with Bryan only being compensated for the sale of around $21,000 worth
>>Bryan made a private sale of around $15,000 that was previously said to be from a separate part of the collection, but every item in photos of the sale matches something on the spreadsheet, so it may be necessary to deduct this from the total

>>11810215
You didn't mention the fact that pricks and minidicks shut down the gofundme for Bryan mansells family and a corrupt utah judge served a court order to silence reckless ben and deliberately refused to listen and read the irrefutable evidence he provided for pricks and minidicks? Kill yourself.

>>11817115
>deliberately refused to listen and read the irrefutable evidence he provided for pricks and minidicks
Ben couldn't provide anything to the court yet, the hearing is June 30th where Ben will give his side and the gag order will either be stopped or extended. If the restraining order is extended there'll be no choice but to nuke utah

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>>11817091
>>11817095
In other entirely unrelated news, the residents of American Fork are getting a 9% property tax hike this year, in anticipation of the unprecedented number of lawsuits being aimed at the police, and the locals are starting to speak out about the bullshit

>>11817091
>>11817095
Chrystal has a record of theft and is a liberal TDS patient (complete with side-cut). It's clear her and her basedboy husband stole the legos.

>>11817126
I looked into this and the tax hike was proposed about a week before Ben's first video went up. The city claims 100% of the new revenue will go to a specific firehouse.
It sure does make you think, though.

>>11817141
>Chrystal has a record of theft
I forgot to include this in my summary but she has a conviction of theft from 25 years ago when she was 19 and no record, that we know of, since then.
>and is a liberal TDS patient (complete with side-cut)
Why would this make her more likely to steal the legos, Ammon? You're trying way too hard to fit in here.

>>11817143
>I forgot to include this in my summary
convenient
you also forgot to mention the shoddy bookkeeping by Chrystal and how she had paid out only half of the amount listed as sold and had no explanation for it. Also that Chrystal and her husband were late several months on rent of the store, too, which sparked the whole takeover.

>>11817151
>you also forgot to mention the shoddy bookkeeping by Chrystal
I implied this but probably could have made thiit clearer.
>and how she had paid out only half of the amount listed as sold and had no explanation for it.
I did mention this:
>>11817095
>it appears huge numbers of legos WERE sold before Chrystal handed over the store, but Bryan wasn't compensated for them

>Also that Chrystal and her husband were late several months on rent of the store
That's not new information.

You know what I've noticed? An awful lot of anons come into these threads defending BAM while attacking both Ben and Chrystal, and sometimes even Bryan, and an awful lot of those posts include talking points that would appeal to the average /pol/golem, like rambling about Jews or accusations of TDS. None of these posts seem to be critical of mormons. None of the /pol/golem posts seem to be anti-BAM.
Just something curious. Really gets the noggin joggin.

Sounds like the Gormons have underpaid Brian whether intentionally or unintentionally. But that is not Brian's issue - she was still working for BAM and regardless of where the Lego went, it is up to the company to make up for that. Instead Ammon talks about some bullshit "documentation" like it's Brian's responsibility to do a full scale investigation and provide a full inventory of sold and unsold Lego. No dipshit, that's your job.

Then he goes on to explain the uhaul with some bullshit story that I tuned out completely cause he's talking like he was there that day with Brandon sucking his cock on the uhaul. Based on what the store employees said, it's pretty obvious Brandon stole a bunch of the Lego and moved it to his other store.

There's apparently newspaper clips that show Joshua has been missionary buddies with Ammon for decades, and Joshua told the police he is longtime missionary buddies with Brandon. So its likely these three are in on the coverup together, which is why Ammon is so adamant on defending Joshua and Brandon and putting the full blame on Crystal despite the fact that she was also part of his company. Can't wait to see what more the Internet digs up on this whole story.

>>11817159
>Then he goes on to explain the uhaul with some bullshit story that I tuned out completely cause he's talking like he was there that day with Brandon sucking his cock on the uhaul. Based on what the store employees said, it's pretty obvious Brandon stole a bunch of the Lego and moved it to his other store.
There's one piece of evidence from the u-haul thing that's worth thinking about: the photo of the truck's odometer. The EXIF data seems to show that this was taken at the rental place, 3 hours after he left the Salem store. If he drove to Eugene, emptied the truck, then drove back to Salem... well, Google says Eugene to Salem is a little more than an hour, so that would leave less than an hour to empty the truck. The employee says it took 4 hours to empty the truck. This doesn't match up.
It is possible that the EXIF data was edited. I'm not sure if it was embedded in a timestamped text that might add some credibility. It's also possible it was faked, perhaps even with the intention of falsifying evidence in case of a lawsuit.
This is a big unanswered question. Hopefully, someone subpoenas the rental company for their records.

>>11817156
that fun is in the old thread >>11808044

>>11817170
Don't think the 4 hour thing is even a big gotcha to the employee's testimony because it could've just taken maybe 1 hour to actually take the Lego out of the truck and then another 3 hours to move into some storage in the store.

>>11817183
>it could've just taken maybe 1 hour to actually take the Lego out of the truck and then another 3 hours to move into some storage in the store.
You know what, that's a very good point.
Though another thing that stood out is that the employee made it sound like after the 4 hours were up, it was around 11 PM. Brandon left the Salem store around 9:45 so it would've been nearly 11 when he arrived. This is, of course, assuming the photo timestamps are accurate.
On the other hand, the employee said Brandon was saying that Chrystal stole legos and fled the country. If this was really an unrelated event several weeks earlier, why would he bring up Chrystal? And why would he say she fled the country when she was still in Salem?

>>11817170
>It is possible that the EXIF data was edited.
Exif data can be modified if you know how, but it's imperfect. Digital forensic experts can tell if that kind of shit has been tampered with. if this case actually makes it to trial, they need to examine ALL the files for this kind of chicanery.

The other thing that got me thinking, was that BAM claimed the uhaul full of merch came from another store in the area that recently went out of business, entirely unrelated to the other 2 stores. Seemed a little odd to me that they would have so many franchise locations so close together to begin with. But it should be pretty easy to see if there was another store, within a 1 hour radius, and identify the exact location, and former owner (s) listed on the public records.

>>11817156
Somebody should just luigi the two mormons and be over with it, funny how the (de-escalators) go into a panic whenever you suggest that kekaroony

DON'T FORXET there is a 0.00000000078% chance the 10th character in this text is changed to an X due to a stray cosmic ray hitting laptop RAM!!!

>>11817143
She also clearly mentioned she still had to pay the original owner from sales of the sets when the store was being taken over. If she was trying to steal money, telling the people taking control of your store "i still need to pay someone" is probably the worst way to do it. The takeover was sudd3n, unexpected and entirely unusual, so it could have easily been a case of her having sold sets but not actually having delivered the original owner's share yet because she didn't think she'd be kicked out that day.

Also, she was very directly told those debts were no longer her concern and that the new owners will cover it...and she was told this by corporate while said new owner was right there. So it seems she didn't even try to steal anything and any sets that were sold but never compensated for falls squarely on the new guy's shoulders.

>>11817095
>uhaul fiasco
at this point Ammon's lawyer is gonna file a gag order against Ammon to shut his fucking mouth.

>>11817115
what's going on here? Patron was ready to go to bat, but is GoFundMe also a mormon front?
>>11817142
>proposed about a week before
absolute kek
>>11817156
>Also that Chrystal and her husband were late several months on rent of the store
can Ammon prove he sent notices to them? Because as far as I could tell they pulled this out of their ass as soon as they heard Crystal was moving out, and she even gave them a heads up.

here's Ben's legal strategy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGAOYmWuyMQ

>>11817214
If anything, she can prove that corporate wasn't fulfilling their end of the contract by withholding paperwork needed to actually process payments to BAM. The old owners wouldn't be suing BAM if they didn't have a case, because it's an actual financial burden to them.

>>11817126
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg8Gm6_KVJU

>>11817212
I have to wonder if he has a real lawyer or if he's such a narcissist he would only hire a simpering yes-man. There's no way his lawyer told him it was a good idea to do all these interviews.

>>11817208
>Also, she was very directly told those debts were no longer her concern and that the new owners will cover it...and she was told this by corporate while said new owner was right there.
They claim this statement was made in passing, and not legally binding. Which might be TECHNICALLY correct. But it's just plain common sense that when you take over a business, you take over all their contracts and obligations. That's not even something that needs to be proven. The more damning implication is that it clearly shows that they NEVER attempted to get a full accounting or the documentation they keep saying they were asking for. And in fact were working against that effort in an attempt to shut her up and rush her out the door. That's probably a case for financial malpractice, and that probably looks worse for the corporation than just stealing some legos. It shows that they are irresponsible and unreliable at a management level, and it would be foolish for any other companies to do business with them

Crystal sure got defensive when they brought up her past criminal record without actually rebuking it, didn't she? Just a big show of emotion, followed by "yeah that's correct".

I don't trust her, she was behind on rent/payments/etc, went about the inventory management/book-keeping in a terrible manor, and is a smelly commie leftoid.
I don't place the blame solely on her however, Bricks and Minifags clearly fucked up, but she started the snowball.

Everybody involved with this at every point has done something wrong and I'm just glad I'm not any of them and get to watch this shitshow from the sidelines.

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they gonna say this was doctored?

>>11817237
Yeah to me it seems like the Brandon Best guy just hauled off with the Star Wars legos he just assumed were his inventory now without looking into it to be sold at his other franchise in Eugene and probably just expected to eventually shut down the Salem one and was stripping it for parts. Maybe they already sold a lot of it before it all blew up, never kept track of which ones were on consignment and now just are trying to make the problem go away.

>>11817239
>Crystal sure got defensive when they brought up her past criminal record without actually rebuking it, didn't she? Just a big show of emotion, followed by "yeah that's correct".
I did notice this, and I also noticed she was anxiously playing with her necklace so much that she had a giant red spot all over her chest.
But there's an important detail, which is that she said she needed to make sure Bryan got paid for his legos when they were trying to kick her out. That's not something you say if you're trying to cover up theft, because it's an admission of unreported sales.
I don't trust her word, but she's presented more hard evidence than BAM.

For me, it was the dogs humping on the couch in the background

>>11817239
>>11817245
Having a shoplifting incident on her record when she was 19 from 20+ years ago is a fucking nothingburger lol

>>11817247
It is, but she seemed really defensive about it. Could be as simple as she's ashamed or embarrassed by it, which is understandable.
Like I said, I still believe her because she has actual evidence to back up her claims.

>>11817247
Yes, but I don't like how over the top she got about it. Rather then just "yeah that was a minor thing from 25 years ago", she had to make a big show and dance about it.

>>11817250
>>11817251
Probably because Ammon is using it to defame her and evidence that she is the thief

>>11817254
Yeah but... it's true

>>11817256
Why not kill all 3 then.

>>11817265
Can we stop with the murder?

>>11817280
He's Pakistani. It's how they solve disputes in their culture.

>>11817282
>>11817280
To be fair stuff usually stops being a problem when they’re dead

>>11817280
kek. I feel like this shit is just more false flagging by their supporters, so they can cry and piss their pants about how mean people on the internet are making death threats. They realized no one is buying their lies about how BAM dindu nuffin, so they're pivoting to character assassination. This seems like the exact kinda shit they are accusing Ben of. It's literally the same fucking playbook

>>11817240
It's clearly an employee/franchisee login under a company account. You're def unemployed.

>>11817303
...which means it's owned by BAM corporate, so they had access to the information and just didn't look for it.
Or they knew they had it all along and were lying when they said they didn't have it.
Both are about equally likely, considering how often Ammon lies.

>>11817287
um.... GHOSTS???

>>11817313
They are mormons, they will go straight to hell when they die, no need to worry about them haunting you

>>11817305
They would have to have known of this file to have found it. I'm doubtful their inventory is normally tracked through easily edited spreadsheets. Once again, you're clearly unemployed & probably haven't had actual responsibility at a job before.

Crystal is clearly a liar btw. She probably just wrote whatever on there.
"Well the 200k thing was just for hype"
"Oh oops turns out I had some at my house"
"The sets are only $20k? But I put $200k on the lawsuit already!"

>>11817324
Drop the lawsuit, Ammon. It's not going to save your business.

>>11817324
nobody cares that you pack mormon fudge in a shitty factory, anonammon

>>11817324
I just want to see you burn so I can get bricks off a facebook mom like we used to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2fGQLqXgWc

This interview with a former store owner proves that BAM has been stealing from franchisees.

This is regardless of whether a store is running well or poorly, they will make up fines and take over. e.g. Store has 70k of inventory, let's issue 70k in fines to the franchisee, franchisee can't pay so BAM takes over and snap up the inventory to cover the fines.

This fits in with the CEO and Josh's past job in the consulting firm "Legally Mine" which does the same thing in weaponising legal loopholes.

At the moment, they want to snap up 300k from the Gofundme, so they issue a lawsuit for it.

That is the infinite money glitch.

>>11817338
your goign to hell in the eyes of the mormon god!!!

>>11817327
>>11817328
>>11817332
Crys alts. Makes sense about the unemployed thing & not knowing how to actually track inventory & POS.

>>11817341
Mormons don't actually believe in Hell. Unreprentant sinners just go to a lower tier of paradise where they don't get to hang out with God in person.

>>11817305
>>11817324
If they didn't know about this, it's not just "whoopsie, we didn't know, not our fault, teeeheehee". It's possible malpractice, which opens them up to liability from the shareholders. It's literally just another thing that Ammon and his little pee pals can be PERSONALLY sued for. It basically means that this ENTIRE situation, and all the damage to the brand and stock price is a result of them not doing the proper due diligence when taking over the franchise

>>11817343
not your boogeyman, shills like you have continually ruined this board for years and now seeing another branch spawn from your mormon posse being caught is humorous but still shit with how your child rape cult is killing regular toy threads to try and save face
>>11817344
No wonder why they are murder drones and top glowie material, they have no souls like hebbies

>>11817346
They aren't even a publicly traded company, please stop larping as a lawyer & get a job jfc

>>11817346
They aren't publicly traded. I assume the McNeff family collectively owns the vast majority of the company's shares, so covering this up WAS in the shareholders' best interests.

This also means that solving this problem isn't as simple as replacing McNeff with a new CEO. They would have to sell the company off. But with the way things are going, selling the company for a fraction of its book value right now might be the only way the McNeffs will come out in the green. I foresee bankruptcy in their future if they keep fighting, and that's assuming nobody gets hit with criminal charges.

>>11817352
I wonder if this will just epstein all of utah

>>11817091
>>11817095
their reason for the UHaul truck being there that night for the takeover (after lying that it wasnt there) is so bullshit even Coffee had to call them out

>>11817355
This doesn't even make sense. Why would they need a giant uhaul for maybe $20k tops worth of lego sets that coulda just fit in an SUV or a truck. Brandon & bams story actually is more reasonable.

>>11817301
I just wanna see em burn so shills slowly start dying, tired of shills

>>11817360
spoken like a true retard

mormon jizz must have lots of caffeine and vitamins

>>11817360
I don't think it was a premeditated plot to specifically steal the Star Wars sets. I think Brandon was just stripping the Salem store for his franchise in Eugene
>>11817243

>>11817364
Premeditated plot for a multi million dollar company to steal less than 20k. Totally makes sense.
>>11817361
Seeth, etc.

This isn't proof of any wrong doings but something i found funny was when I looked at the old store reviews. One of the reviews is clearly Amanda, the current female manager, roasting the old owners and trying to make the new ones look good kek

>>11817372
No, that's my point. The retarded franchisees bought the Salem store for cheap because the old owner was trying to abandon it, thinking they would just trip anything valuable from it for their other store. They didn't really pay attention to the consignment deal for the Star Wars sets and sold them like they were just their own inventory, by the time Byan comes knocking asking where his money is they're already deep dick in (unintentional) theft so they tell him to go screw thinking it would scare him off and probably feeling entitled to lego sets anyway because they never would have agreed to the consignment deal in the first place themselves (Krystal seems to make a lot of dumb business deals with customers most small business owners wouldn't want to deal with considering all the layaway sales) Corporate just covers for them out of a desire to cover their own ass in liability/Mormon clannishness/whatever. Bryan hires youtubers to investigate/harass them, the cops side with local business owners over a bunch of disruptive carpetbagger internet people, Then it blows up on the internet

>>11817384
And to add to this it would be interesting to see the sales records for the Eugene store and see if a bunch of Bryan's legos show up in them

>>11817372
So do you want to have your head rested next to the french pedophile? Fine by me

>>11817251
As an attorney, one thing people get real defensive over are their histories. I’ll be sitting with a client while reading through their record, casually mention a traffic infraction from 10 years ago, and they’ll completely blow up about it.
I can absolutely believe she’d have a big reaction to someone bringing up her conviction 20+ years later to imply it makes her guilty.

>>11810215
Do they have Mega Blocks and Playmobil too?

They had the pictures of his legos when she was kicked out of the store. They themselves said they had the legos and would return them. They took over the business and promised to sort it out. Seems pretty open and closed, they should have paid Bryan and then sued Crystal if she was committing fraud. Sounds civil.

>>11817402
Usually small bits unsorted, I just take it home for free and put it in a big bag of random bootlego, sometimes the bootlego comes in a nice color. No playmobil though

>>11817372
Are you being paid in money or do you work for (You)s?

>>11817407
Like the french predator, he is paid in penises

I'll always side with the americans over some pantyfa losers

>>11817383
I was looking into the local stores near me, and they all have positive reviews, but that's mainly because they got flooded with 5 star 5-8 word reviews in the last 2 months. I don't want to be too mean, because there were a handful of glowing reviews that seemed legit. But there was also a very obvious attempt to just launder their reputation with falsified good reviews

>>11817156
It really does make you think. We just find out about the PR company and suddenly the noticing happens

>>11817251
Because shes A) a woman and B) was pregnant

>>11817451
I’m tired of shills. Still funny how the pr shitters are likely working their asses off trying to defend mormon jesus

>>11817234
glad people arent letting their cops abuse go unnoticed

>>11817480
doesn't matter, the city concluded that no investigation was needed

>>11817483
Based. Fuck gentiles

>>11817484
>>11817483
So somebody will have to do a bit of pyro fun

>>11817493
none of that will happen

Joseph Smith won.

>>11817493
utah should import some black people then

>>11817460
Be more delusional

>>11810215
FUCK BEN (((SCHNEIDER)))
FUCK THE (((GORMANS)))
FUCK THE (((MORMONS)))

>collection wasn't worth $200000, closer to $100000
>Bryan had already sold a bunch of it to a separate company
>~100 sets had been put on layaway
>30 sets had been sold but hadn't been updated on the spreadsheet
>the sets unaccounted for were only worth $20000

>>11817696
>>the sets unaccounted for were only worth $20000
and BAM only offered bryan $10,000
so they were still trying to rip him off

>>11817696
Legos weren’t bam’s property. Easy solution? Give them back?

>>11817699
mormonmorons didn't track them well enough and probably sold a bunch

if they had let crystal sort out the sale tickets a lot of this could have been avoided.

>>11817701
they also could have made good on the statement they made to chrystal that they would resolve things for her
lots of opportunities to solve the problem

>>11817698
>BAM only offered bryan $10,000
it was between 5-10K. Also the sets on layaway, and the ones not updated on the spreadsheet are fully unaccounted for. Coffeezilla just breaking them down into different categories does not Absolve BAM. If they cannot show that they payed Brian for them, then they are still obligated to pay for them. The ammount he is owed is probably still closer to 50k.

But the fag store REALLY shouldn't be trying to handle this like a negotiation, and trying to bottom-dollar Brian. If anything, they should be trying to OVERcompensate him. Make him whole, and then pay him a little extra, for the pain and suffering. I think that's the only way the general public can forgive them

>>11817705
>>11817701
It was always going to be a shut down and gut of the inventory then a write off as a failed franchise.
Brandon does appear to be the scummiest and most likely perpetrator, however, Josh and Ammon were clearly in on it, knew exactly what was up, and more than likely orchestrated it.
They just didn’t think they’d get busted and when they got pushback they doubled down until it was too late.

>>11817710
Also all BAM said about compensating Bryan is moot (RIP) when they are suing him for 1mil

>>11817710
>Also the sets on layaway, and the ones not updated on the spreadsheet are fully unaccounted for.
yeah, it seems like the layaway sets should have all been in the store
if josh and brandon weren't aware of the layaway on those sets then they'd have no reason to treat those sets as sold

>>11817711
>It was always going to be a shut down and gut of the inventory then a write off as a failed franchise.
i dunno, they seem to have continued operating the salem location for about a year after taking it over
>Brandon does appear to be the scummiest and most likely perpetrator, however, Josh and Ammon were clearly in on it, knew exactly what was up, and more than likely orchestrated it.
i think ammon was the mastermind of the whole scheme
i don't know about brandon but josh seems like a total moron, i think he just does what ammon tells him

>everyone saying collection is worth 200k
>all the sets are disney shit from the last decade
topkek. Anyway I'm guessing BAM is not that successful of a company with huge margins and most franchises probably struggle with inventory which is probably a big part of why they have been so unwilling to give up those sets.

>>11817736
Crystal explicitly mentions an Ewok Village set in the Coffeezilla vid. They definitely had a lot of the classic stuff, and not just disney slopwars.

>most franchises probably struggle with inventory which is probably a big part of why they have been so unwilling to give up those sets
You're probably right. They probably have a shit ton of generic bricks and pieces out in the bins, for people who are just trying to build MOCs. But the complete sets and IP specific stuff, that's all out of production and varying levels of collectible. Most people are not going to walk in and sell their vintage boxed sets for 50 cents on the dollar, when they can easily get more money going through ebay. if you watch this vid >>11817338
it seems like gutting franchises just to acquire their inventory is a common practice for them.

>>11812699
only if you live in the hood

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>shills thought Coffeezilla would vindicate BAM somehow

>>11817786
Did you watch the video? He points out how Crystal has a criminal record of theft and the POS data clearly shows the antifa thugs sold the lego and pocketed the money.

>>11817792
It doesn't clearly show that, you are just morally corrupt and/or a contrarian troll. Most likely conclusion from the video is the owner guy packed the sets into his U-haul and took them to the Eugene store

>>11817792
>Did you watch the video?
Yeah it shows Ammon being caught in multiple lies and Coffee saying he doesn't take his word on anything

>>11817792
It actually explains Crystal's "criminal record" as a young mom being retarded once as girls often are and then shows everyone was negligent on record keeping. BAM could have seen all the proper records of they had actually looked for them and willingly ignored them like they lied about the uhaul. Cope and sneed.

Mormon defense force working overtime itt. Seems to be everywhere when this topic is brought up on different sites.

>>11817820
It's funny how out of touch they are. The more you push the harder the push back will be. Quietly letting this work it's course is really the best way and even then your reputation is damaged. There's no going back.

>>11817822
What I find most fascinating is that kiwitards aren’t picking up on this story. A few years ago this would be the exact type of thing they would spam and signalboost

>>11817820
Someone I've never talked to ever in a discord server suddenly popped up to argue how the Mormons did nothing wrong here ahahahaha
Meanwhile in reality land Josh is on camera flexing how busy his stake councilor position and how much he wishes the officers could fix this so he can go back to his stake councilor duties ahahahahaha

>>11817820
To be fair there are also just a lot of evil chuds on this site. If BAM was a non-white, muslim, purple hair women, etc. owned company, the people defending them now would be calling for their deaths.

>>11817825
Even if we pretend they are completely legally justified in everything, they threatened and bullied a guy with a dying dad and some kids and told several lies to the police in an attempt to arrest them and have their lives ruined. Josh is straight up a psycho villain who implied he might hurt/kill the kids if one of the cops did not hurry to his house to deal with them. They are not in the right at all.

>>11817831
>no it’s evil if you don’t tip the mormons as they kike you

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>>11817862

Is it true Ben's GoFundMe got restored?
>>11817820
really tells you all about mormons that they post here.
>>11817825
I only see this going two ways for Ammon. One they can keep this whole court case in Utah and resolve it quietly while butt fucking the protagonists in silence. Two Trump gets involved and gives all the mormons a "Get Out Of Jail Free" Card. Mormons definitely going to give a huge campaign contribution to Trump if this case some how leaves Utah.
Between rationalizing supporting these mormons and Epstein /pol/ has really lost its way.

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>the entire mormon religion is going to crash out over a box labeled "Gungan Sub"

>>11817905
>really tells you all about mormons that they post here.
lol, the funny thing is, you can spot them right away. They talk like a typical summer fag, except 20 times worse, because they have very little experience talking to normal fucking people outside of their cult, and they get their entire sense of humor from PG rated slop like Disney shit or the Muppet Show. Fuckin NPC ass weirdos with one personality

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Ben‘s not making it out of prison. We hard in Utah

>>11817905
I heard Ben got a rico charge or something does that mean there is a change federal court gets involved? I can't imagine dump's corrupt and incompetent doj doing the right thing here

>>11817931
All of Ben's criminal charges are misdemeanors, but he is being sued on civil RICO claims. If the judge doesn't throw that out, and he loses, it will triple the damages he has to pay.

>>11817935
>it will triple the damages he has to pay.
which honestly wouldn't even affect him that much at all. He's already facing a life ruining amount of legal damages. Tripling that is merely cosmetic. He would likely just declare bankruptcy, and find some creative way to dodge all that anyway. and I doubt he has very many assets that can be seized, outside of the gofundme.

>>11817935
civil RICO IN UTAH, with a mormon judge, brought BY Bricks and Minifigs, against Ben. Same judge that shut down his GoFundMe.

>>11817921
crazy how GoFundMe allows Karmelo's family to raise money for his legal defense but we can't have a YouTubing attentionfag asking for any

>>11817962
it was GiveSendGo. they have lower standards

>>11817962
There was probably no court order to take down Karmelo's fundraiser.

>>11817962
Karmelo is the victim of a hate crime. Ben is being a tiktok menace

>>11818030
>>11817990
May he and the rest of his species be exterminated, I’m tired of your bullshit. Same with Mormons.

>>11817905
>>11817820
I just want there to be a range nuke on Mormonism, would stop a lot of glowies too

>bryan got double fucked
>BAM set themselves up to get giga fucked like greedy retards instead of easily just giving the man his stuff
>crystal is clearly not telling the whole truth and doing stupid shit like payments
>the police are supposedly getting investigated across multiple groups
>ben for exposing all of this mighty possibly get booty blasted in multiple court cases
Actual nightmare

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g57vOyws7no

>>11818097
There is still an easy way out for everyone, but everone needs to stop being so agro, accept some responsibility, and settle amicably

>>11817917
probably the most kino thing to come from episode 1

>>11818123
Do you have the story pic of the guy who rammed one of the tendrils from it up his urethra so much until he started pissing blood

>>11818097
The American dream

>>11818097
>Everybody losing
absolutely quinoa

>>11818097
ASIDE from Mansells getting fucked, I'd say every party getting the worst outcome is for the best.

FUCK MORMONS, i.e. BAM et.al and the American Fork police force
AND
FUCK KIKES i.e. Ben Schneider and Chrystal Gorman et.al

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>>11818206

>>11818206
Ben is a German Catholic.

>>11818221
Nobody cares, both burn for our amusement
>>11818206
This, and FUCK FRANCE.

>>11818221
I retract my statement about him. Truly, Ben's work is an example of AMDG.

>>11810215
>That's like finding out there is a store devoted entirely to Coca-Cola.
It's funny you should mention that since the grand majority of coca-cola is sold by independent bottlers who are not actually employed by Coca-cola and simply buy the right to produce Coca-cola.

>>11818120
>get fucked with for 2-3 years and jump through hoops to fight back + blind luck that things worked out
>"siiiigh, ok haha guys I guess we can be adults and have an amicable resolution with us giving back like 20k or something thats fair right"
>"HUH? what do you mean you want more WOW you guys sure are childish! We should just settle amicably now that WE had enough"

If they settle amicably, B&M wins.

Nothing left to say until the court date. See y'all on the 20th

>>11817861
Ammon lies so much I wonder if that moustache is even real

>>11818339
If they settle amicably, that means B&M gets to survive. For starters, they need to pay out WAY more than 20k. Making Brian whole and paying extra for pain and suffering is the basic starting point. Probably going to be about 100k. Still chump change for a 400million dollar company, and a very small price to pay to stop the reputational hemorrhage. And then everyone apologies mutually and drops the charges mutually. Ben still keeps the gofundme, and Brian is still entitled to a portion of that so they're going to make out just fine. Crystal might get fucked since she's claimed responsibility of her employees not keeping proper records. But Maybe Ben can be nice and cover her bill out of the gofund me too. There's more than enough money.

That's what an amicable settlement should look like. But B&M are too stuborn to swallow their pride on this one. If I had to guess, I think they NEED to make this company a success, to prove they were right to their dad.

https://youtu.be/4aL6tM9si1k
TLDR:
>their rich daddy bought a controlling stake in the B&M company
>their rich daddy pulled his funding, because the store they were personally managing was failing
>they sued their rich daddy
>????
>suddenly they are CEO and CFO of the entire company
>they have a history of fucking over their private franchisees in favor of the corporately owned stores
If I had to guess on the motives, I think they NEED to show their rich daddy they were right all along, and very responsible with money. They are very smart and correct, and it's just the goyem who are wrong.

My favorite part about this is watching the corporate bootlickers get exposed because Bryan is a white Mormon as well, so anyone defending BAM is actually at really absolute best defending a clearly exploitative legal setup, assuming everything is above board

>>11818681
That and literal mormon bots, poor board has been suffering from future FBI agents getting real angry at their daddy being called out.

>>11817861
>>11817862
>>11817867
The dumbest thing about this saga is the goddamn CEO of BAM sitting down for an interview with an internet man multiple times. Whatever lawyer approved that should be disbarred.

THIS IS GETTING EVEN FUCKIN FUNNIER. BEN IS REPRESENTING HIMSELF.

>>11818734
...what?
You've gotta be joking. Legal Eagle was going to set him up with a pro-bono legal team. He's not retarded enough to go pro se when he has options, right?

>>11818734
bruh.....I think he might actually be retarded

>>11818734
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVgkAfPrCJs

it's for the trespass violations by the "city" (mormon paradise)

>>11818738
It's called being based.

>>11818744
It doesn't matter if it's just for one of the smaller charges. This retard honestly thinks he can just tell his side of the story, and come out on top by merit of the facts? When he's claiming the city is corrupt?

I don't think ben cares about going to jail otherwise he wouldn't have done any of this

>>11818784
Bro had the LAPD ready to beat his ass on his patron, I think he's actually fearless

>>11818701
Surprised the shareholders just don’t send a pistol in on him to stop tanking their stock

>>11818769
Ammon's hope is he can send Ben to Utah prison and get him immediately shanked. Because be aware once Ben is convicted, he's in the legal system and can ...appeal... And he can keep appealing, until he's in Federal Court, then Ammon's gonna have to write a big check to Daddy Trump worth a lot more than Mansel's lego collection.

I do applaud Ben pioneering Gonzo Lawyering. I doubt a judge will tolerate his antics, but a judge will be less tolerant of a toy company using the police for shake downs under false pretenses.

>>11818848
>Gonzo lawyering
That's an awesome term if you came up with that yourself anon

>>11818792
BAM is not a public company. The shareholders are probably just the McNeff family and a few early investors.

>>11818701
I can hear his lawyer screaming at him
>stop talking stOP Talking STOP TALKING!
every time he says an easily disprovable lie

There will be some really really bit burndown from this, and the fact this idiot CEO did this over a 200k worth of collection that he could've bought 20 times from his yearly bonus, that is insane.

Like why. Was there some really really hard to get rare set in that collection that he wanted for himself no matter what, and thought "if the whole thing goes missing, nobody will notice that this one thing is now at my place"

Ben's gonna get beheaded by some mexican cartel paid by big mormon

>>11818902
it was closer to 60-80k worth of actual product. I think the reason he's trying to put his foot down so hard is that THIS IS LITERALLY THEIR ENTIRE BUSINESS MODEL. They find any reason to shut down their privately owned franchises, and literally just take all their inventory to sell at the corporately owned franchises. There are now 2 instances of this exact thing coming to light. And they've probably done it atleast a dozen other times in the past/

>>11818734
The grand finale will be him unzipping his skin in court to reveal he is actually Bugs Bunny.

>>11818952
That's what jews like Gorman and Ben do

>>11818959
>I knew I shoulda taken that left turn at Albuquerque!
>kisses Josh on the lips
>tunnels through the floor

>be from Salem, OR
>literally biggest thing that has happened in this city in years
>upstaged by mormon corruption
DAMN YOU UTAH

>>11818734
>NO.! YOU HAVE TO GIVE A KIKE JEW LAWYER YOUR MONEY
lawyers are a scam

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>>11818986
I wonder who could be behind this post?

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>appears menacingly outside your B&M store

>>11818952
Chrystal claims to know 3 other franchisees this happened to.
I imagine the margins for a Lego reseller that doesn't sell any other toys or even other brands of building blocks are probably fucking nightmarish so this kind of legal theft might be the only way corporate can stay afloat.

>>11819047
Or she just spent the money on drugs again.

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>>11819030
Wrong image there buddy

>>11819016
those are some fatass cops
come to think of it i feel like most cops i see are fat bastards

>>11819119
This. Can't wait for crys to go to jail for fraud & theft & BAM wins their lawsuits.
Moman god bless ammon.

>>11818734
the ben really do be reckless

Ben just wants to get that bussy STRETCHED ya feel me
He wants the romantacal black mamba special
If he didn't he'd get a lawyer, in fact not having a lawyer is pretty gay, just as simple as that

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>>11819146
https://youtu.be/n9WClv4U5B8?si=dCubGhCOrgi9aJa2

>>11819030
>>11819120
>Uhaul? There was no Uhaul
shows picture
>
>oh yea there was a uhaul, but what had happened was
dude.

>>11819155
This isn't even what happened. It was from multiple convos but coffee made it look like the same one.
They thought there was no uhaul, then they checked with Brandon after being asked, then he provided proof and said he did have a uhaul for a few hours but there was no loading and unloading involved with proof. They aren't omniscient to all their employees. If crys really thought there was something shady going on, why didn't she just park and film or pics. The dude doesn't need a mega sized uhaul for some legos.

>>11819160
retarded perception +1

>>11819180
You're brain has been melted by tiktok if you believe anything scammerzilla says.

>>11819160
>If crys really thought there was something shady going on, why didn't she just park and film or pics.
She was likely asked to leave the property immediately. Most adults who aren't retarded understand that the next thing that happens if you don't leave is police are called to trespass you off the property. That's literally what we see happening to Ben. Although, I will admit, if she was smart, she would have atleast gotten a pic of the uhaul license plate, or at least the number on the side. But it's pretty common for people to not think of obvious stuff like that in stressful situations

>>11819160
>They aren't omniscient to all their employees
Then why did he confidently say there was none and then specify there was a rental car?

>>11818986
retard

I think I'll just make shit up and ignore everything I don't like.

>>11819215
Anon, my boy, you won! You did it! You did it! I knew you would, I just knew you would... I had to test you, Anon. And you passed the test, you won.

>>11817917
I cant look at that without seeing the copypasta in my head

>>11817831
Once you notice the mormon PR emergency force or whatever the fuck its called its really easy to see lol.

>>11819236
idk. I'm not seeing it. Only contrarians. Reckless Ben is really unlikable, but he is in the right mostly. It's a dumpster fire

Every new development the Bricks and Minifigs takes, the more the Ceos of Bricks and Minifigs try to make themselves look worse than before.

>>11819204
She could have just been across the street doing it, she didn't coz she's the one who stole the stuff. It's in her blood.
>>11819207
Coz he saw the same vid as everyone else & they probably comped the rental car so he had proof of it already. Getting a rental for a biz trip is pretty common. So much unemployment in this thread.

>>11819160
>They thought there was no uhaul
The u-haul was rented through the Eugene store, they would definitely know lol
Think of it this way, why is there 2 explanations for this u-haul?
First they said it's because there was a u-haul drop off in October
Second they said in November (a month later) he needed it to pull his camper and went into intimate details about the event even though it wasn't him who did it
But neither story explains why the u-haul was rented in Eugene, was in Salem the night of the take over, than brought back to Eugene
Why didn't he just drive the rental truck there, why didn't he return the u-haul after he got it pulled out, why didn't he just ask one of his employees if they could help or someone local he knew?
The biggest issue is the story is obvious bullshit because it doesn't follow occam's razor
The simplest explanation is they brought a U-haul because they were taking over the store but they can't admit that or it gives credibility to what they did

>>11819152
>>11819146
I'm glad to hear mormons are into BBC

>>11817240
>run your whole business on a Google Drive.
>Insist putting your company stamp on every file saying you own it.
>this happens.
By launching a lawsuit, Ammon may have the money and lawyers, but he's gonna have to deal with Discovery. If even 20% of the shit in Ben's videos is true, a class action lawsuit lawyer's mouth would water.

>ya'll got any bricks up in here?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SgDSjsnB3T8

>>11819374
What would they have even needed a uhaul for. There was $20k worth (tops) of Legos left. Also keep in mind Bryan is only supposed to get 65% of sales. They planned this huge heist with an oversized uhaul for $10-12k? The employee they 'brainwashed' admitted to the stuff still being in the store still. So what was in the uhaul? They owned the store now anyways, they could have took time or did whatever. The simplest answer is everyone sucks at accounting and Crystal probably did too and cheaper Bryan out of money, not BAM.

>>11819446
>There was $20k worth (tops) of Legos left
That's just Brian's sets that were photographed. But even if that's the only sets of his, they definitely had other inventory. And if he wanted to empty the brick bins, that would also take a ton of space. I could easily see them filling up a haul if they really wanted to. He may have just been thinking it's better to be prepared. Also, Crystal said it was the biggest size of haul, but I doubt that. Even the 20ft trucks would not fit into a front row parking spot like that without sticking out

>>11819430
Ben is retarded. He's not going to do any discovery. He is going to defend himself and then give the gofundme to Ammon and get raped by Jamal in prison

>>11819160
>They aren't omniscient to all their employees
The COO said definitively that there definitely wasn't a U-Haul. He said he had personally seen all the footage from that night and was certain there was no U-Haul.
Then Coffeezilla showed the clear and undeniable picture of the U-Haul to the CEO and the CEO suddenly had an explanation for it.

>>11819481
The discovery has to be limited in scope to the immediate charge of trespassing anyway. It's not like they can just subpoena every phone call and email they made in the past 2 years.

>>11819374
>Second they said in November (a month later) he needed it to pull his camper
I always thought this part was complete bullshit, shithead said he rented a pickup after landing. Most campers are anywhere from 1,000-8,000 lbs. Any modern pickup truck can tow that unless it was a Ford Maverick or Honda Ridgeline, but those can tow small-meduim size campers. So needing a Uhaul truck for towing a camper is complete bullshit, also I never seen one do it, and I was a campground host for like 6 months.

>>11819443
>you can get away with robbing a store in broad daylight in las vegas
interesting

>>11819443
>it's all white people
wtf /pol/ told me there'd be no crime in a white ethnostate

>>11819636
>Based child diddler
?????
Are you just adding random labels to people for no reason?

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>>11819848
people usually use campers as a place to rape kids because they can just go to a neighboring town
t. diddled this way

>>11819852
did it give you a fetish for trailers?

>>11819955
in the way you can have a fetish for kissing. it's not the kissing that matters, it's what you know comes after

>>11819446
>>11819636
Imagine if the uhaul was for BAM's secret child trafficking operation and it gets uncovered from this whole drama over legos...

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On the topic of BAM's business practices resembling illegal MLM schemes, what seems to be missing in the public debate is an analysis of how common such practices are for franchises in general and whether or not such practices should be legally allowed.

For example: if a franchise contract goes as far as prescribing the vendor of office supplies and by doing so creates a conflict of interest like the owner of the vendor being related to the owner of the franchisor and the franchisor prescribing high interest loans to franchisees, then is such a business practice legally permissible or should franchisees be protected from possibly being too naive to sign such a contract?

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>>11820204
franchises seem like such a scam. From what I understand you buy the shop, but you adopt all the marking and products from the business directly, even literally buying the inventory from the business. From here you are more tied down than a traditional business as you are not allowed to sell third-party toys, just BAM provided toys. From what I understand how a franchise works, BAM should at most tell them to remove the store logo and promotional materials and no longer buy inventory from BAM, not seize the entire store without legal documentation. That contract was so fucked if this was permissible.

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>>11820239
>That contract was so fucked if this was permissible.
To elaborate on the points you're making, just looking at he interior design of the BAM store raises the question what the licensed concept even is besides the color scheme. It's just a stockroom with a bunch of nondescript boxes, shelfs and showcases. Overall there's less of a recognizable shopping experience than a grocery store in contrast to the immediately recognizable and highly appreciated old school diners for example.

If not the shopping experience, could the operating system of a BAM store warrant an extremely restrictive contract with high interest loans? Not if you consider that the inventory seems to be documented with a simple spreadsheet rather than more professional software with user rights and reliable tracking of mutations. So both the lack of recognizable shopping experience and the lack of a professional operating system seem to indicate that an extremely restrictive franchise contract with high interest loans is not proportional. If such a contract is even allowed it should prove have very little legal binding power in court.

>even literally buying the inventory from the business
At first I didn't even realize how absurd this is, because if a BAM store goes out of business, it's likely because the inventory can not be sold fast enough or with enough of a profit to pay off the loans and make a decent living. How can a new owner solve that problem?

>not seize the entire store without legal documentation
This seems like a huge gap in the story that we've been told so far. Reckless Ben and the previous owner make it seem like the actual takeover of the store was unexpected and unwarranted, but if that's the case, wouldn't the previous owner have called the police? I mean usually when there's a dispute about debt and possible bankruptcy, someone like an independent curator gets appointed by a judge, no?

>>11820281
>what the licensed concept even is
It's the Bricks and Minifigs brand name. I think that's all they're paying for. BAM doesn't seem to provide anything else, as they don't even have any official deals with Lego.

>>11820281
>This seems like a huge gap in the story that we've been told so far. Reckless Ben and the previous owner make it seem like the actual takeover of the store was unexpected and unwarranted, but if that's the case, wouldn't the previous owner have called the police?
Not necessarily. The did a "hostile takeover", in their own words. This is when the head company sends someone in to take over the business with little to no notice for the business owner. There is likely a clause in the franchise agreement basically saying this is fair game if the head company deems it.

>>11820204
>whether or not such practices should be legally allowed
I honestly think that if this goes all the way through the courts, it could set an entirely new precedent in case law. Lawyers will be citing "Ben V. BAM" every time there is a business dispute involving franchises for the next 50 years

>>11820239
>franchises seem like such a scam.
in most cases they are. But at the same time, the general public has an innate level of trust and familiarity in a franchise that can be a tangible benefit. If you put a McDonalds right next to a hole-in-the-wall, mom and pop burger shop, the McDonalds will almost always do 10x the amount of business on any given day

>>11820239
Franchising is not nearly as uncommon as you think it is. A lot of restaurants operate this way, but it comes with benefits and drawbacks. Main benefit is that you get to take advantage of what is usually a well-established, trusted name, instead of just starting your own business as a nobody, no-name store.

>>11820519
I think this will be notable no matter what. I've already heard of college professors restructuring their entire semester curriculum around this case.

To add to the franchising discussion using McDonalds as an example, ontop of brand recognition, trust/familiarity/etc, you also get advertising.
For example if I opened a McDonalds, rather than "Jim's burger bar" in the middle of Australia, "Jim's burger bar" isn't being advertised to the world during the Olympics/World Cup/etc, but McDonalds is.

That (along with the other points made by others above) is why it makes sense to franchise a McDonalds, as fast food is a very competitive industry.
A specialty store selling Lego isn't.
If someone is looking for a Lego store in their area, they don't have a lot of options, so who really cares if it's "Crystal's plastic brick store" or "Bricks and Minifigs". Sure the B&M name would have pulled a little more weight if you're presented with the two, but I'd bet the extra sales from brand recognition in this sector with this little competition wouldn't be worth the franchise fees and all the other bullshit.

>>11820204
>>11820281
Crystal was about $100k in debt to B&M, so it was more of a loan repayment seizure... I think.

>>11820547
I am doubting the debt story. Another BAM franchisee went through something similar with them and he had no debt. His interview is on youtube somewhere.

>>11820564
I think Crystal has admitted to it in passing, like "they didn't alert her of it so it's not really her fault" or change the accounts into her name or something. That sort of thing.

>>11820566
Ah alright, I must have missed it. The other franchisee mentioned when corporate took over the business they didn't change the name on the lease, stopped paying rent, and drove him into huge debt.

>>11820547
>If someone is looking for a Lego store in their area, they don't have a lot of options
I mean, there was an entirely separate lego store a couple blocks away(pun not intended) from the Oregon BAM store. But the nature of hobbies/collectables generally means that the clientele are not exclusive. I'd bet alot of the people who regularly went to that BAM also stopped into the other lego store, because if they're in the area, why the hell not. Hobbyists enjoy spending time around things they enjoy, so they might as well spend the extra 15-20 minutes to check out the other store.

>>11820569
I couldn't tell you exactly where she said it, I've consoomed so many videos about this shit.

>>11820572
This is a good point and true
We have one old hobby store in my area, but if we had a second one I wouldn't be playing favourites.

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daddy mcneff crying about getting death threats when he's still defending his sons (who ousted him from B&M)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASmnbpxyDeg

Has been gotten a lawyer yet? I read rumors he finally has one but nothing serious. Any news?

>>11820709
>making up a story about getting shot at
If it was true you know he would have been posting pictures or the ring footage.

>>11820714
only source saying that Ben lawyer'd up is H3 but they haven't said who.

>>11820717
I think Ethan and Ben are in direct contact so it's probably true

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>>11820519
>Lawyers will be citing "Ben V. BAM" every time there is a business dispute involving franchises for the next 50 years
That would by Chrystal v BAM or something. They started suing earlier exactly for that takeover.
In BAM v BEN case bricks are suing like 20 people which does not include Chrystal even though they claim their pre-lawsuit complaint was how the racket started. Probably because including them as defendants would mean digging up a lot of stuff that would paint BAM in negative light.

>>11820762
Why has law evolved in a way that allows plaintiffs to accuse people without suing them? This way people's reputation can be damaged publicly without giving these people the chance to immediately defend themselves within the same context the accusations occur, putting them in a disadvantaged position. Are people who are being accused without being sued even notified by the court or do they have to find out by accident?

>>11820709
>bro they shot my window!!! like with a gun!!!!!!!
proofs?

>>11820829
That’s why I still love slingshots.
Concealed.
Silent.
Pretty hard to prove where a tiny rock came from.

>>11820717
>>11820726
Ben went on H3's show (he seemed to be physically in the studio) and said Legal Eagle was hooking him up with lawyers.

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>>11820856
>Lowkey murderball advice during World Cup.

>>11820898
>Olé, Olé, Olé

>>11820887
That interview was like 2~3 weeks ago.
People were freaking out because Ben showed up for the pretrial hearing by himself last week >>11818744
1~2 days after that, H3 and his twinky vietnamese buddy then said that Ben actually does have a lawyer, according to r/recklessben

>>11820907
If Legal Eagle couldn't find a guy to do it pro-bono, Ethan should pay for the lawyer. He needs the good PR.

>>11820709
He’s not mad at his sons for illegally ousting and suing him?

>>11820967
It's made up. He's a mountain jew

>>11820910
>Ethan
>finding a good lawyer

>>11820967
He out-mormon'd his sons when they sued him back then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77CmMmkQvC0
And this tweet now suggests that he probably offered up B&M as collateral for that.

Also dude's more concerned about how much the window costs than whether there's a mortal threat to his family so it just shows you where his priorities lie.

>>11813619
I remember when you could do this at fucking WALMART of all places. The whole front left of the store was like 7 rows of toy isles, and big movies used to get stands around the store. Starwars and Transformers would practically have their own isles on movie years.

Now it's three isles. The literal infant isle, a girl isle and a partially empty boy isle.

The boy isle stays mostly empty because one side is Legos and the other is Pokémon and Transformers. I'm convinced the pokemon toys are short stocked and the transformers were pegwarming like hell until they tossed the tfone and cyberverse stuff in the dumpster about four months ago.

.....this is gonna be a movie in 10 years isn't it?

>>11821215
Hmmm... I could write a screenplay based on this story...

>>11821225
>>11821215
I wouldn't bother. You'd need to get the film rights to this whole saga from Ben, in order to make a movie. And even then, you can only do that if Ben wins, and he wants to keep rubbing their nose in the mess they made. But the bigger reason why it's not worth it is because Ben's videos ARE the fucking movie. Parts 1 and 2 are already over 2 hours long, very well edited, and only tell half of the story so far. Part 3 will likely push the entire runtime to 3 hours long, and then there is the entire fall out from the legal side of things, which could be another 2 hours all by itself. And then there is all the side content. That employee who they brainwashed got fired, and is fucking furious at Ben and his boys about the whole thing, even tho they made phone calls to get her a jb at another lego store in the area. She just wants nothing to do with them after everything she went through. You can't fit all this into a single movie, and you can't really split it into multiple movies over the course of 4 or 5 years. You could maybe write it as an 8-10 episode streaming series for netflix or some shit. But realistically, this story works better as mockumentary-drama(brand new genre?). I could maybe see Ben cutting a deal with Netflix or some other streaming service, to re edit the stuff he did, and insert some reenactments and additional content from everyone else investigating this, to turn the 3 part youtube saga into an8 episode streaming series

>>11821392
Just do it illegally and gurella film inside the husks like a real artist

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>>11821402
>bro, just make your movie illegally
>and then also cut out 80% of the content/context for run time
>it will still be a good movie and make perfect sense

>>11821435
>This story follows instatuber Brash Benji as he attempts to recover a family's building blocks, valued at around $200k, from the Blocks and Miniguys corporation
Boom problem solved

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So who or what will prevent that this controversial happening does not end up the same way as all the other controversial happenings in the past few years?
>Pandemic.
>Assassination (attempts).
>Hawaii wildfires.
>Ohio train derailment.
>Learing centres.
There are tons of investigations and court cases going and it seems like nothing will ever get resolved especially after the initial hype dies down and people move on to the next current thing. It's all too much, too complicated, too drawn out.

>>11821182
you are a literal child. diaper wearing, shit eating retard

>>11821857
>So who or what will prevent that this controversial happening does not end up the same way as all the other controversial happenings in the past few years?
A YouTuber making money out of it, others following and the McNeffs doing their hilarious interviews.
Also, it's not a really "controversial happening" basically the whole internet is against BAM

>>11821914
The only people on BAM side seems to be a bunch of plebbit mods

>>11821464
Offer him the role of the villainous CEO and he’d probably okay it lel

>>11821937
Last I checked the plebbit mods weren't actually on their side, they just wanted all the discussion in a superthread.
The only people on their side are the NRPR employees trying to save their reputation.

any news ?
last time i checked ben no longer had the right to mention B&M

>>11822000
Crystal has been arrested for possession of Heroin

>>11822000
Coffeezilla covered the story. He found evidence which all but proves Josh and Brandon stole the legos to sell at their other store.
https://youtu.be/VKfQkRbd15k

This video just popped up in my feed. The guy making it seems a little nutty and I haven't watched the whole thing but it's financial analysis.
https://youtu.be/GNm90azYl6g
He claims BAM is actually dead broke and hardly makes any money, and all their money is from franchising fees. He says Ammon is doing all these interviews just to soothe franchisees' nerves because he's fucked if they quit.

>>11821857
Litigation will make it slow to a crawl and be forgotten about. BAM has way more money than Ben, they will just slowly choke him out in the courts hoping that the generosity of his more wealthy youtuber buddies dries up.

>>11822017
>BAM has way more money than Ben
Nope. They're broke. No cash flow.

>>11822018
Ben is a drug addict

>>11820564
I wouldn't be surprised if what they did to Crystal was essentially their business plan. Come into a community, open up a franchise, have everyone from the community submit their consignments, then have some manufactured controversy to seize the store, close it, and take all the inventory, which is like too small of potatoes for all the consignment people to care or even know about after everything has happened. It's just this time their greed went too far with this one consignment.