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Anyone else heard about this?
DHL seems to be the first domino to fall, but wouldn't be surprised if other shippers end up having the same problems after July 8th.

I'm curious where a lot of you buy your stuff from. Do you wait for it to come to the US through someone like BBTS or buy it directly from another company overseas?
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>>11822161
Good the worse things get the faster this board will die. Unless we get even more people pretending they can afford toys.
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>>11822161
I buy everything from amiami and hlj. Which dont allow cancellations of preorders. If this fucks me over and gets my shit mandhandled by fat fucking customs fuckets I am fucked and will probabaly just give up collecting. Some fucking demoralization psyop is going on or just grosss incompetence and its killing me.
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>>11822161
Jesus, and just when I was thinking about ordering from Japan again. Guess I'll stick with buying domestically since it actually comes out cheaper now than shipping + tariffs if you're only buying one or two figures. China, of course, will find some way to outsmart this like they did the tariffs, so I expect I'll continue ordering from them. Starting to feel relieved that I'm pretty much out of space with how troublesome this hobby has become.
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>>11822182
Look again, Japan is fine, it's chinese and other foreign toy makers.
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Who benefits from this anyway
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>>11822161
it got cleared btw They had to call a buncha folks but this sucks.
>>11822185
Probably the jews since it was a bipartisan thing passed in 24.
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>>11822161
Why the fuck is this happening?
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>>11822187
Does Isreal hate dolls?
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crazy how much things continue to get worse every day
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>>11822188
I keep asking this. Feels like the last couple years has seen regressive actions and policies when it comes to importing, especially for the average person. I don't think the bullshit is just limited to the US either based on what I've seen. But what is it all for? What is so bad from importing things from other countries? Why are we acting like trade is bad? At least just let people enjoy their hobbies and stop fucking them up like everything else. How much do (they) even gain from making things harder and more expensive for us? Probably not that much.
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>>11822205
Elites are getting ready for a catastrophic event.
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>>11822184
Their big brands at least. God help any smaller/newer manufacturers. China's already shipping in bulk, shipping through other countries, and misclassifying/undervaluing, this will just make them do it even more.
>"This is tools to build house. No need to open package for little plastic people, white devil."
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>>11822216
pretty much this
the chinese will do every underhanded thing they can think of to avoid even dealing with this, your usual import sites or proxy shippers will the the ones who get fucked.
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>>11822205
I kinda like it since you americans finally have to pay customs just like the rest of the world.
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>>11822216
I thought it was to avoid being sued but DBZ third party toys selling the hair as a pencil holder and the faces as "emoji bookmarks" make a lot more sense
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>>11822161
DHL sucks
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>>11822194
They hate anything that brings goyim joy
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>>11822225
> the chinese will do every underhanded thing they can think of to avoid even dealing with this
Fucking based, thanks China. Gladly giving Aliexpress more of my money.
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>>11822203
It's quite exhausting waiting for total societal collapse already.
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>>11822277
Honestly any day now, just two more weeks and those chunky little pinkertons got another thing coming if the good ol' boys got anything to say.
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>>11822171
Amiami canceling process is automated. You only get flagged if the item is in stock and they were in the middle of processing it. Canceling too much all at once could also get their attention.
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>>11822161
I'm probably an idiot, but when they mention Bandai, etc do they mean that any Bandai product gets an auto pass or is it that any product shipped directly by Bandai gets a pass? They mention HLJ so I am assuming it is the second option, but not totally sure. Either way, I keep telling myself importing can't get any worse and it somehow does.
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>>11822188
>>11822205
>>11822212
We're living in the end of the modern era, the collpase of modern rome, the tiny hat tribe is trying to get another temple built and retakle the holy land, global economic collapse incoming as well, all the old gaurd illuminatti fucks are also dying whiel the current regime is cracking into overtime.
When the bread and circus runs out, it's just gonna be carnage so I guess get ready for that.
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>>11822410
>global economic collapse incoming as well
the u.s economy is doing pretty ok desu
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>>11822185
Nobody but the terminally retarded in America seem to think that fucking international trade will somehow bring back American manufacturing when all it actually does is fuck over citizens and small businesses while the big corpos just keep manufacturing overseas anyway.
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>>11822416
LOL
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>>11822416
EVery western economy is in the shitter, Japan is depenet on trade so they're fucked. Russia's fucked, india is lmao, china's the only one I think is doing alright but being they paved over their crops theyu're fucked too when this shit show explodes.
I don't know waht's going to happen, but when it does it's gonna be shitty and violent.
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>>11822188
Something about child safety and making sure all the stuff coming in marked as childrens toys has all the proper certificiations to ensure nothing contaminated with lead or toxic chemicals is given to them. This is due to a flood of shit for kids from Temu practically made of lead and toxins.

Just ask the store you use what their plan is coming up, it should be fine as long as a. They have all the proper certifications for childrens toys yo avoid destruction, or b. they don't mark the item as toys for kids but as collectors item for adults.
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>>11822430
dos mas semanas
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>>11822416
Only because the AI bubble is artificially inflated, and all for what? Seriously, what's the point of AI other than writing your emails for you and being less efficient than Google in 2009 for a search? Refusing to give you information because "it goes against my guidelines"? Writing code worse than an Indian?
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>>11822431
Finally they're doing something about the massive influx of cheap, no name, Chinese garbage. This should also apply to clothes and "knick knack" trash they keep putting up on Amazon.
>B-but le free market!!

Stfu. The mass production of low quality crap just creates trash and wastes oil that could be used on actually good plastics products and medical supplies.
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>>11822436
>what's the point of AI other than writing your emails for you and being less efficient than Google in 2009 for a search?
Porn. At least it was until that Nazi Elon caved.
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>>11822205
>>11822212
>>11822410

You're acting like this is some unexplained economic phenomenon when it's very blatantly obvious who is causing all of this.
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>>11822467
I mean yeah, but ultimately he is just the guy pushing the button. He is only doing what the other elites want to see happen, that is the part to remember. He is basically the fall guy for all the ideas the rest of them are afraid to try to push through, because somehow it all just bounces off him where it sinks other politicians.
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What is specifically effected by this? Is it just everything? I order a lot of soft vinyl kaiju figures
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>>11822443
>Finally they're doing something about the massive influx of cheap, no name, Chinese garbage.
yes, deliberately creating sympathy for it
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>>11822476
is that really what you think is going on? really?
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>>11822161
what's the point anymore
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>>11822496
yeah? you’re delusional if you think Trump is the only guy making decisions to fuck you over, it’s absolutely a team effort
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>>11822416
Americans don't understand because they're comparing it to the past rather than the rest of the world. It's remarkably strong given the wars going on.
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>>11822467
>>11822476
>>11822511
Hey, retards, this got passed in 2024

https://www.cpsc.gov/Newsroom/News-Releases/2025/CPSC-Approves-Final-Rule-to-Implement-eFiling-for-Certificates-of-Compliance
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>>11822517
Shhh I wanna see the TDS go on full show.
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>>11822416
American economy is a house of cards. Also the only people doing well are in the top 10%, average fucks buying Chinese toys to distract from how nihilistic their situation is are getting hosed on living expenses. Why do you think everything is getting more expensive?
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>>11822161
It's not been safe to Import toys since Orange took over and i doub it ever will be again. I only buy from stores that ship to customers from us warehouses so they have to deal with the anxiety nightmare importing has become
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>>11822422
https://youtu.be/dGjk-TwiXJQ?si=VUisK8BakP5hFi8G
>start shit in Ukraine
>start shit in Venezuela
>start shit in Middle East
>monopolize LNG and oil
????
>profit.
This was the burgers plan all along
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>>11822161
Non Americans @ Americans
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>>11822573
They’ll laugh and laugh until it starts to affect them too. Then they won’t be laughing.
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Isn't there a kind of irony about a man in the epstein files caring about child safety?
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I think like 80% of things will remain unchanged. The only thing that will change is that we'll regress back to about the 1990s and you'll have to buy import stuff directly from retailers. Companies like Bandai and GSC already have a foothold here anyway, and domestic companies like Hasbro, Mattel, etc. etc. will all be the ones dealing with the certifications and stuff.

By the way, this stuff already exists, and has for years, its just that the certifications were only necessary if asked for. Now they just have to always be presented or whatever.

From what I've seen, the market taking the biggest hit will be used/second hand items. There may be a total collapse of importing second-hand merchandise, which really is a pretty big deal. Most places probably won't even sell used goods anymore. Maybe they still can/will if the product still has the box and all the packaging since it will have whatever info about the material in the item, but loose shit might just be dead to import anymore.

Also probably 3P figures from Chinese companies, or just small Chinese figure makers probably won't have the money or logistics (or possibly even just the desire) to certify their goods for minimal returns, unless the retailer/importer does all that footwork.

But who knows...
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>>11822517
>Hey, retards, this got passed in 2024
Kek holy shit Biden was the one in office during this decision, and they're still blaming it on the orange man
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>>11822161
It's already happened to me.
I placed the order on April 27th, and it's been stuck in customs since May 3rd. I've been trying to figure out what's going on ever since.
Somehow AliExpress fucked me by updating the status to say it cleared customs on May 26th, even though it didn't but because of that update, I now have to wait an entire extra month(10 more days) before I can request a refund.
I see this thread and now it all makes sense
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>>11822671
Damn, what kind of figure was it?
At least they're not trying to screw you
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>>11822653
>From what I've seen, the market taking the biggest hit will be used/second hand items
I've heard the exact opposite that used goods is of less interest and even exempt.

There's no clear explanation and no one seems to know what the fuck to do
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>>11822676
ZT Broly. got him from 5k anyway.
>At least they're not trying to screw you
I thought they were at first. but i mean if i got no figure i dont see how they would get away with it. the tacking update was sus as fuck tho. it came one day before I would have been able to request a refund and no other website could confirm the update of clearing customs.
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>>11822678
>I've heard the exact opposite that used goods is of less interest and even exempt.
That doesn't even make sense within the context of these rules, though. What sense does it make, when the whole point is to document what materials/chemicals may be in a toy, to let something through with absolutely no markings or material listings, or other identifying information?

Again, I think packaged second hand items would still probably be fine, but random loose stuff with no way to easily identify what it is probably won't go through well.
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https://x.com/i/status/2067120972684042403

>5/12 On the other hand, figures/Nendoroids are usually OK, since Items that are clearly marked for ages 14+ or as adult collectibles don't require CPCs. If the packaging looks toylike or only has Jap tags, they may still be held for inspection.
>6/12 Larger companies like Good Smile are in a safe position here because they already produce items at scale and should already have the proper US safety certificates for their products and shipments. This shouldn't impact orders from them.
>7/12 However, proxy services, custom items from places like Etsy, and other small sellers are where things will be risky. Most of these sellers don't have the full US compliant CPCs needed for their products
>8/12 Starting July 8, anything under toy/plush HTS codes will be auto flagged in the system for review. Proxy services or etsy sellers etc are the importer of record when they forward a package to the US, so they must assign an HTS code as part of the shipping process.
>11/12 Does the shipping service matter? Technically no. The main triggers are still the HTS code, product type (plush/toy/doll), and whether proper CPC data gets e-Filed. All major carriers have to follow the same CBP and CPSC requirements.
>Finally, this change only affects shipments coming into the United States. If you live outside the US and are ordering to your own country these new CPC e-Filing rules and extra scrutiny don’t apply to you at all.
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>>11822689
>Yeah so a personal gift would he exempt from these rules, but the shipment needs to clearly appear to be of a personal nature and not look commercial in any way. You would want to make sure it's marked “Personal gift – not for resale” on the customs form, and that it also has something like a handwritten note inside. You can also ask the carrier to file a disclaimer message in ACE, which is the computer system customs uses to process imports, which clarifies its a personal non-commercial gift. The main thing to remember is that it can still get flagged by customs if it looks like a proxy order or shipment from a business. At that point you will have to prove otherwise to customs to have it released. So you want to avoid that as much as possible.

>Yes, CPC requirements have a partial exemptions for secondhand products, but only if the product was manufactured before a specific CPSC rule took effect. Secondhand products manufactured after the rules came into effect still require certification if they are children's toys intended for kids 12 and under. The "used" or "second hand" labeling alone does not inherently exempt them. Tbh most of these rules came into place between 2008 and 2010 so it would need to be some pretty old merch for it to be exempt in this way.
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>>11822618
It's already starting. EU is going to start charging a 3 euro fee on July 1st PER ITEM coming in from China. So, if you order 5 things from Aliexpress, even if it's all packed together, you'll be paying 15 euros/$17.41. And this is just temporary until they eliminate their de minmis just like they did ours and charge a percentage of the total. In the interim, they're already talking about increasing it to 5 euros per item if it doesn't cut down on importing.
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>>11822703
Man I knew I was onto something by just ordering from local stores instead
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>>11822185
It guarantees job security for the customs officers but more importantly it's another nonsense but easily enforced tax to stuff
the governments, this or the previous one's, budget holes.
This is nothing though since every country does this to an extend. Look into the customs shenaningans of the UK, Germany or Italy for some real sheriff of Nottingham shit.
Basically the harder a country is failing into socialism, the more ordinary people get squeezed for cash.
tl;dr this anon is correct >>11822187.

Btw if you're a mib collector ordering from bbts or similar, good luck. If customs gets a hold on your stuff, every box where it is unclear what might be inside will be opened.
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>>11822711
I wouldn’t worry about it from BBTS, they have a large enough business customs will just waive their shit through. It’s the packages from little shops overseas that and person-to-person shipments that will get shredded by zoomer customs agents having a bad day.
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>>11822718
I should've been more clear or used a better example, my apologies. I meant international customers who order from BBTS outside the USA. Opening *suspicious* packages is standard procedure in a lot of europoor countries but is definitely going to be a new experience for US citizens.
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>>11822161
Buy the same shit from Ebay sellers who already took the risk and now have it domestically. That's what I've been doing. A recent example is a repro G1 Optimus Prime where I paid the same price that ali express is selling it for but for someone who already has it in the US. For bonus points I waited 3 days to get it instead of north of two weeks.
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>Had a plush on preorder from HLJ since December, releases around the end of July
>Already gave up on AmiAmi's system and never looked back
Is this it? Risk getting my items fucked up, or accept GSC's credit card leaks?
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>>11822764
Nowhere else domestic has the plush?
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>>11822409
Licensed importers who partner with big brands (like tokullectibles) are fine. No telling if HLJ and Amiami are safe yet. I'm assuming this law is why TakaTomy relaunched Licca in the US in march.
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>>11822766
Not the plush he's after.
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Get ready for another shipping suspension from Amiami.
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So, what's that about America being able to be totally self sufficient again? You guys are complaining about friggin' toys...
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>>11822813
rat
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>>11822813
>You guys are complaining about friggin' toys...
Damn, it's almost like we're on a toy board or something.
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>>11822430
Delusional. China's economy is literally circling the drain. Their TSF debt is rising out of control and youth unemployment keeps rising year over year and it's already double the rate of America's. China's a giant factory. Even if the US didn't make it harder for its citizens to buy from China, China would be headed towards collapse because they only know how to build factories. Their own people don't consume the stuff they make, and it's becoming worse because of the rising unemployment; their consumer confidence is at an all time low and probably going to get worse. I mean you could say this about most of the third world, too. Americans buying random plastic junk kept the world economy going for the past 70ish years. Jeetistan is fucked too even though those rats are trying to layoff as many Americans as possible and extract jobs. They're just going to collapse the tech dinosaurs and their economy and then make way for the next wave of AI powered ones. You thought things were bad for American CS grads? India is going to collapse because even near-free chinkshit AI can run circles around them, they're so dumb.

Expect things to get worse. For you, mostly.
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>>11822807
Using amiami is so stressful. If they just had a private warehouse option, it would be fine be fine because you can just store your items for a long period and until hopefully the situation improves. But the monthly order makes this stuff so much more annoying. With the exorbitant costs now, if you have a single thing delayed to another month with no orders, there goes your combined shipping benefit and you are stuck paying more than the item's price just to import or risk getting banned forever if you try to cancel at the wrong time.

The unfortunate thing is they are also the overall best Japanese site. The others have a bunch of issues or are more expensive or simply just don't carry the thing you want.
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>>11822748
You realize since they're all sourcing from aliexpress, the prices will now in turn go up as they also pay more, right?
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>>11822828
You can combine delayed orders at any time, I’ve done it since diaper don started his shit.
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>>11822705
Even if its a local store they will need to have all the certifications for everything ready before it gets into customs and be ready to answer any questions about how its manufactured. What's going to happen is if there's no way around it by using a category like collectibles, then they're not going to stock anything from people without certifications, because it's too risky to have all that product destroyed. It will one shot indie brands, and a lot of chinese brands.
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>>11822487
Anything with any of these codes. You'll have to look them up and see if any of these will match what you order.

https://www.cpsc.gov/s3fs-public/CPSC-Guidance-and-HTS-List-for-Filing-of-Electronic-Certificates-6B-Cleared.pdf
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>>11822857
Is this stuff on the original Chinese shipping label? Mine are usually covered with a USPS label before they get to me.
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>>11822871
It's usually its own piece of paper thats affixed to the package with plastic protecting it, listing every item inside its value and its code. Sometimes customs leaves it on sometimes they take it and keep it. Since it's e-file now, I've been seeing them less. You might be able to talk to your store, send them the guidance, and ask if anything falls under those categories.
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>>11822831
>aliexpress
Unsure if this will change come July 8th, but I've ordered quite a bit off Ali recently and have had literally no issues with any of it arriving. I am going to be PISSED if I get cucked out of ordering those sweet third party DBZ figures from Ali though.
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>>11822879
Yeah, my stuff from Japan has that. I guess they've been pulling it on the Chinese ones.
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>my full power freeza KO says package exception and is at import customs inspection
bros...
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>>11822703
The western governments are trying to lock their citizens off from cheap goods from other nations in preparation for prices to go higher. China has 'the great firewall' on their internet, the western nations are building one for goods. The world has gone mad, free trade for the common man is collapsing; it only exists for the corporations.
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>>11822923
What shipping method did you use? If it's not DHL it should still be fine.
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>>11822924
There will soon be one corporation, the way they keep buying each other up.
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This is a great example of government screwing citizens under the pretense of keeping them "safe". Supposedly they're inspecting these to make sure its a safe product, when anyone can take one look at it and realize it's just an action figure. So what do they need to destroy it for?
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>>11822936
Fool! This figure could clearly be smuggling drugs in her asshole!
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>>11822927
it's going through yanwen
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Will showz store imports also get destroyed?
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Plush toys seem to be the ones at most risk, what's the best way to label them from now on?
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>>11822971
no they’re chinese they’ll just find another loophole, it’s what they do
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The US government will destroy the things you paid for and then make you pay them to destroy your stuff
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Americans really just want to fuck each other in the ass real bad huh? No wonder you need slavery to keep your fake economy going where nothing of value is made.
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>>11823101
rat
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I see
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>>11823101
You're so jealous of America lmao
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>>11823101
I blame our stupid fucking corrupt government
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>>11823121
Why do you think the swamp is still full? Vote in your own interests so you can import your toys freely, not to make the lives of others who have done nothing to you miserable.
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>>11823125
>Vote for the uniparty instead of the uniparty!
There is no voting your way out of this. Bullets, not ballots, are the only solution.
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>>11823108
yo back up
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>>11823127
>>11823125
Posts that glow
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>>11823125
Who do I vote/speak to make this right?
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>>11822971
I asked their sister site gundamit about it, they said they're looking into it and talking with their shippers right now to figure it out. I assume they told showz about it.
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>>11823134
Bug your representatives. It takes surprisingly few calls bothering them to change their mind or inform them of something. Tell them how its an issue and how its impacting collectors.

>>11822984
Arent plushies generally assumed to be for 12 and under? Might just want to ask the shipper if they have all the childrens toy certifications the gov wants. Larger companies are probably fine since they can easily afford to get certification on every toy.
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>>11822517
I guess Biden also got rid of De Minimis, did tariffs, and involved us in a war raising oil prices right faggot?
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>>11823177
>I guess Biden also got rid of De Minimis
Actually...
>In September 2024, the Biden-Harris administration announced plans to strip de minimis eligibility from goods subject to Sections 201, 301, and 232 tariffs, marking the first major federal effort to aggressively crack down on the loophole.
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>>11823177
Brother you gotta go do research before you start yapping, it was funny at first but now its just painful to watch you get shit on this hard for being ignorant.
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>>11823132
You think those plants would be more subtle by now considering the leak from a year ago.
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>>11823180
From what I’ve read they were planning to keep some exemptions in place for consumers and mostly crack down on the businesses using it (IE, dropshippers). But yeah it’s a both party issue, never forget both sides of the aisle want to steal your money. Uncle Sam is a greedy fuck.
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>>11822161
>America can't even have import toys any more.
Land of the Free indeed.
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>>11823223
>America can't even import childrens toys made of 99% lead and toxic sludge anymore
Oh man we're sure missing out damn
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>>11823230
Weird bait post.
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America is way too greedy and corrupt. You can't boycott shit because there's always that one idiot who will buy it and fuck everything up.
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>>11822927
This is true until July 8th.
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>>11822161
Buy American and you will never have this problem.
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>>11822161
If you voted for this you deserve your shit getting broken.
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>>11823379
True, fuck Biden
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>>11823379
I didnt vote biden during 2020 so guess im safe from this. Ty for the blessing.
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>>11822820
>delusional
>says exactly what I said in more words
okay
>>11823379
>vote against it
>the government does whatever it wants anyway
>don't vote for it
>the government does whatever it wants anyway
okay
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>>11823387
>>11823441
Same person but he realized what he wrote like 40 minutes later and had to correct it
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>>11822161
Relax
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>>11823505
So only plushie bros and BJDs are affected here then.
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>>11823180
>the Biden-Harris administration
Why's it called that? No one says "the Obama-Biden administration" or "the Trump-Pence administration" or even "the Trump-Vance administration"
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>>11823535
And anyone who uses a middle man site like Zenmarket probably, right? Maybe someone should ask Zenmarket, buyee, etc. how they'll deal with this
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>>11822766
GSC has it, but I hesitated ordering from there after people talked about credit card leaks, and them never addressing it. I guess the risk is worth taking over having my stuff shredded, though.
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>>11823555
Because a rotting animated cadaver and an actual retarded whore kind of barely add up to one real person.
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>>11823555
I saw Trump-Pence and Obama-Biden a few times back in the day. I guess people don't even feel like pretending Vance has a say in anything.
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>>11823154
Thank you and sorry if I seemed upset. It’s bad enough shipping prices are just as much as the product so hearing about this just made me snap a bit.
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>>11823590
Some shopping services are good about this stuff and others aren't so it depends. It would be safest to ask them though, yes.
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>>11823646
I feel you brother, it's been a rough year.
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>Finally about to be out of pre-order hell at the end of the month
>Can't even ship the shit that I have built up without worry because despite the fact that shipping multiple items now costs in the hundreds the government might still just decide to not give it to me when it hits stateside
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>>11822850
I was talking about local eu stores, they're fine from this and they ended up more reliable because they got more stuff over the years and I don't deal with shipping while the price is comparable, maybe 10 euro more than importing myself most of the time
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>>11822243
Not the point.
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>>11823677
So talk to your store, dingbat.

>>11823685
Hey that's not bad at all.
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>>11823177
>>11823180
>sections 201
>solar panels
>sections 301
>goods determined to be from unfair, discriminatory or unfair trade (ex "you are AMERIKKAN so you get 400% on EV battery "
>sections 232
>raw steel, iron and aluminum trade
I was going to give my kid a 20 pound box of iron ore and a golf cart EV battery for Christmas but CROOKED JOE BIDEN ruined it
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>>11823594
GSC US switched from handling payments themselves to using Stripe/Link as a payment processor after the hack
they've still never addressed it
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>>11823362
I fucking swear, if this gets delayed one more time...
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>>11822419
>all it actually does is fuck over citizens and small businesses
This is exactly the goal. Discourage citizens from spending their money out of the country, obliterate any small businesses with any kind of market, and funnel your money directly to the government. This is entirely beneficial for the burger corpos.
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>>11823737
I was just about to post this. I've had this fucker preordered since day one, and every delay just pushes it into more dangerous/expensive territory. I just want my fucking robo-husbando.
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>>11823732
Yeah, because they surely would've stopped there, right? Oh, wait.
>In announcing these rules, the Administration warned that "further comprehensive de minimis reforms are needed, and these reforms require congressional action.
>Senators Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) led the bipartisan push, citing the need to close a loophole that has harmed American manufacturers, endangered consumers, and undermined fair competition.
This was always coming regardless of which party was in charge.
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>>11823737
we might see the goodsmile version come out before this with all the delays it’s had
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>>11823732
>you are AMERIKKAN so you get 400% on EV battery
More like we want to discourage buying products of slavery but yeah ok make it retarded so you can whine about it, go off queen
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>discourage products of slavery
lmfao explain our prison system then
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>>11824023
When you are put away for fucking over society, you absolutely should have to spend your time working for society to make up for it.

This is very different from child slaves and race or religion based slavery in China. Those did nothing wrong to deserve it. You have to do something wrong to go to prison.
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>>11823737
I'm sure nothing else bad will happen in the next 48 hours, ha, ha, ha...
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>>11824052
>race or religion based slavery in China
You're not about to start crying about how the poor heckin Wiggers aren't allowed to do islamic terrorism, are you?
Moral grandstanding aside, EV batteries are just terrible for the environment both in the process of mining their raw materials and in their hazardous state after they die.
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>>11824387
>EV batteries are just terrible for the environment both in the process of mining their raw materials and in their hazardous state after they die
Yeah plus the mining conditions and slavery for the lithium. Good thing we dont use those specific mines for american lithium amirite guys? :)
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>>11824052
Not him but that's incorrect, plenty of innocent people go to prison. That they will be turned into slaves to make the next generations toys is only adding insult to the injury.
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>>11824404
Imprison scalpers and then we're talking
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>>11822161

DHL was my only reliable option for Mandarake... am I fucked?
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>>11824404
Good.
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>>11822185
Americans and American jobs
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>>11822185
Jews.
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>>11822185
Children mainly, not getting poisoned by lead and cadmium loaded shit, or choking on / strangling with shit that says its rated for their age when it 100% isn't.

>>11824561
The EU started this during the end of the pandemic, talking about the shipping abuses and the safety hazards for children, and that the companies cant be held accountable.

This isn't an american jobs thing. Even if we wanted to start making stuff here, we can't even manufacture things with pinless joints. And we have 4x labor cost over china. It's not viable.
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>>11824661
Why would there be lead in a trench coat? Do the Chinese throw lead in everything?
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>>11824661
Just fucking ban shein and temu at this point, they are complete cancer and 99% of all these problems are due to them and they just circumvent all these regulations anyway while adult nerds buying harmless collectibles for themselves get fucked over for no reason.
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>>11824691
>Why would there be lead in a trench coat?
Dyes, flame retardant finish, ink... dust or otherwise contaminant from equipment, except at this level it really has to be part of the fabric.
>Do the Chinese throw lead in everything?
They just don't give a shit. They do this to their own people's stuff there too. Anything to do it for cheaper and pocket the extra money, I guess.

>>11824701
>Just fucking ban shein and temu
I agree, but then the issue is they'll just make new companies and do the same thing again. It's playing whack a mole - ban them, they'll just make a new company over and over. Then, what, we get to spend a bunch of money testing everything that comes in? Kids get poisoned if we miss something.

The idea with always requiring the certifications be filed, is that Temu or any other company like them simply won't be able to pass the tests and won't have anything to file. Anything with incorrect filing or missing filing will be auto rejected and either sent back or destroyed.

Everyone else that doesn't do this shit will be fine, because they've been taking and passing these tests for at least the last year anyways. They've been required to have the certifications ready in case customs asked for it after arrival, and have been asked randomly to show them. They're just being asked to file it when they ship instead of when asked.
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>>11823154
>Tell representatives how its an issue and how its impacting collectors.
>inb4 "suck my dick and kill yourself, vote for me though"
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>>11824404
>plenty of innocent people go to prison
skill issue
learn to have an alibi
learn to stop being in the wrong place at the wrong time
learn to stop looking suspicious
stop dressing like a hood nigga
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>>11824805
You forgot people admitting to shit because the police intimidate them, and the ones that take guilty pleas even though theyre innocent and should fight it, simply because they get told "it will make things easier on you".
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I feel like it's no longer worth the stress to collect anymore. It'sbetter to just hunker down with the toys you have and stop even looking at new preorders to avoid fomo and despair
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>>11824956
Speak for yourself lil bro. I'm being more selective, sure, and waiting for more sales, but I'm not quitting because I'm a pessimistic loser.
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>>11824956
Honestly, may not be the worst thing to take a break and appreciate what you have, at least for those of us who already have large collections. I've got 60+ figures I haven't even opened, yet keep adding to the pile.
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>>11824958
As far as ive seen with imports if you're waiting for a sale you're probably not getting it unless no one wants it
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>>11824561
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>>11825069
Silly weeb, McFarlane's got you covered.
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>>11822528
>TDS
You people are adorable. Thunkin for yerself real good I tell ya what. Have a blessed day though, ok, piggy?
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>>11825069
Become an entrepreneur and start your own toy manufacturing factory.
--a lunatic with no concept of the costs and logistics of toy manufacturing
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>>11825109
apparently the people actually making a lot of 3p unlicensed companies are secret lyAmericans that just know how to talk to manufacturers
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Why can't Americans make anything?
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>>11825158
The chinese are way more advanced in toy manufacturing. I thought this dude gave a good explanation. He tried to get his stuff made here, half the manufacturers ignored him, the others that were interested straight up said no to simple action figures with pinless joints when they found out how behind they were, the 2 years solely to catch up, and how a $30 toy would end up costing $60 minimum at the time. And that's just about the molds and plastic, without getting into the printing or painting of the figures too. It's grim.

https://youtu.be/qT2tQjKa1JA
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>>11825158
why can't you come up with an original shitpost after all these years?
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>>11825083
man McFarlanes ass really is gonna be saved by importing becoming worse and people desperate enough to buy his junk
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>>11825460
I guess he's a self-hating American projecting.
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>>11825663
People need to ignore mcfarlane anime unless it improves. It shouldn't even be an option.
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>>11825663
Even if I were desperate I couldn't stomach having to see that shit on my shelf. I'd rather deal with 3d printing at that point.
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>>11825449
Institutional knowledge loss.
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>>11825826
issue is the people that buy his stuff are basically young teens who can't import or adults who should know to import but are either too cheap or dumb to import, his shit is perfect for them and the normies that dont know better.
>>11825830
if you don't know better it will be good enough, and if you see it in your local store or your local online nerd shop you will probably go for it because it will be cheap enough or god forbid you can pay for it in payments.
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>>11822169
>the worse things get the faster this board will die.
Why the fuck do you WANT the board to die?
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>>11825861
He just told you. Because he can't afford toys.
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>>11825851
How many normal adults buy toys?
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>>11825895
look at this board or social media anon, a lot of them, genxers and millenials are filled with adults buying action figures, Gen Z too but they truly have no money
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>>11825926
Note I said normal. I wouldn't consider anyone here normal just by virtue of being here. Social media is also full of lunatics so that is no measure of normality. It's much more difficult to find out how many normal adults buy figures. The hobby is almost innately disqualifying as once they reach hoard levels as many collectors do, again, no longer normal
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>>11825940
Better question. Who gives a shit about being normal? No one interesting is normal.
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>>11825940
Collecting figures is far more accepted nowadays than it was 20 years ago. This isn't 2004 anymore anon. I see people at my office with figures hanging out on their desks. One of my co-workers has a couple of SHF DBZ figs even.
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>>11825950
Look up false consensus effect.
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>>11825950
>Collecting figures is far more accepted nowadays
is that why funko pop collectors are respected?
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>>11826008
Ok anon, whatever you say. The people in my office with figures are totally not there.
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>>11826066
NTA, but as much as collectors hate funkos, pretty sure they're a big part of why adults collecting toys are more socially acceptable nowadays. Those things were normie bait for like a decade before they overproduced them and oversaturated the market. Wasn't until the last few years their popularity plummeted.
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>>11826186
>adults collecting toys are more socially acceptable nowadays
what is this delusion
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>>11826008
What do you mean that toys aren't mostly bought by adults because i come to a hobby board on the internet full of 30 year olds who buy childrens toys?
Surely you're also joking that japan isn't considered the greatest country in the world and their cartoons aren't considered masterpieces?
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>>11826186
Meh, I remember when the big deal was Beanie Babies. Or pogs. Or comics. Speculators don't really mean popularity.
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>>11826008
Go outside
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>>11826238
Excuse me?
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>>11825868
Why the fuck should this board die because he's a povo cunt?
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>>11826398
because he's one of those dipshits that is trying to gaslight other people that this whole place will die soon, there are a lot of those insufferable faggots around all boards, spewing the same shit over and over like a fucking bot after the hack
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>>11826008
Suuuuureeee....
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>>11826417
Since it's measuring in USD that jump from 2024 to 2026 could be on price increases alone. The rest is just a projection.
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>>11826199
You'd have to be living under a rock not to recognize this as fact.

>>11826213
I mean, all those things WERE popular for a time before their eventual decline. Speculators and scalpers invade every collectible hobby, especially nowadays, and inevitably kill them after the initial boom prices out the genuine fans. Part of the reason so many collectors came to hate POPs is because they're an extremely simplistic toy that casuals ate up which ended up taking up huge amounts of space in toy and comic stores where more interesting collectibles could have gone.
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>>11826449
>that jump from 2024 to 2026 could be on price increases alone.
It's the valuation of the action figures market, not sales. Though obviously they contribute to the value.

>the rest is just a projection
Yeah. Thats what a forecast is, congrats. This chart has it from 2017.
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>>11825940
I can tell you that I've met several people around or slightly older than me collecting figures of various kinds, obvious theres the Transformers folk, but I've met hot toy collectors at regular job and I even met a dude at my local toystore that was there with his family and he ended up getting some MOTU Origins figures for himself, we live in the era of adults buying figures, hell LEGO is a universally accepted toy to collect to the point my parents that are near retirement are buying LEGO for themselves.
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>>11826464
Where was the large jump in NA we would expect in 2020 when people started collecting more due to being stuck inside? Was that phenomenon just a meme?
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>>11826464
is AI going to be buying all the action figures after 2026 or something? i don't get how these projections work.
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>>11826464
>This specific research chart comes from Grand View Research, a very well-known syndicated market research firm. Within the professional consulting and corporate strategy industries, its credibility is generally considered low to moderate,
>"Data Mill" Business Model: Grand View Research operates as a syndicated "content mill". They use search engine optimization (SEO) to blanket Google with charts for thousands of highly niche markets. Many of these reports rely on generic algorithms rather than deep, boots-on-the-ground primary re

Fake News
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>>11827004
Then provide something better or I'm just going to go with what anon posted.
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>>11826464
Anon nobody smart puts any value in projections longer than 5 years. 5 years already is extremely suspect because any number of issues could arise that affects the outcome. A 13 year projection is literally worthless and relies entirely on expecting infinite growth and by definition cannot account for any number of factors that would increase or decrease the valuation from supply chain fuckery to raw materials fuckery to marvel fatigue to marvel booms to covid booms.
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>>11827041
I think the point was "this chart only shows from 2024" so they showed from 2017. Regardless of if its growing that fast, it really is growing.
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>>11827034
No info at all is better than made up bullshit, retard.
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>>11827155
Kek. What a cope.
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>>11825158
Do you want the honest answer, and not a meme?
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>>11827320
Considering he's been saying the same thing constantly for years now, I'm leaning toward no.
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>>11822161
>Imported monsterarts has been stuck in customs for over a week
It's over.
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AmiAmi has spoken.
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>>11828117
Fucking called it. So much for the people here and especially on buyfag saying this wouldn't be a problem. Let's hope they figure it out quickly at least.
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>>11827000
Line go up.
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>>11822942
If only!
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>>11828159
It's just because they have to talk to the factories and gather paperwork on every single product. They've known about this for 2 years, and have had to present these papers to customs when asked for 1 year now. You'd think they of all companies would be more on top of it than random chinese stores, but I guess not.

Anyways I'd much rather have a delay than get expensive shit destroyed, not the end of the world. But they really should have had this done already.
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>>11828159
It seems like for most of the stuff they sell, they should be fine as it has the necessary documentation. Stuff I buy from them, like SHFs Mafex, and Revoltechs are large enough that they should already be submitting the paperwork. Unless you buy weird niche items, I think it'll be fine.
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>>11828211
What about amiami pre-owned?
Is that nolonger available to US customers?
Is mandarake fucked as well?
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>>11828117
It's time to stop importing
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THIS IS SO GAY
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[laughs in Canadian]
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So why can't Americans make anything?
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>>11825834
>Institutional knowledge loss.
This is exactly it. We could at one time. We could again. But you can't have a million (((shareholders))) collect a million dollars for laying around doing nothing so we don't. Once that entitlement mentality ends, America can be great again. Sadly, going to take a long time with how loud (((they))) scream.
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>>11828731
americans are fat and greedy to ever be great
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>>11828731
Shareholders are a core facet of capitalism. Because only about 50 people in the US have the money to drop by themselves to do something as expensive as build a factory capable of producing action figures in America and train workers to be able to do the work without any outside investment/capital. And none of those people care that the toy industry is collapsing to try to 'save' it. The existing injection molding factories in the US (which only have part of the expertise anyway, they aren't painting toys and using tampography) have already flat out said they have no interest in picking up toys. So any action figure manufacturing in the US would not happen without investment.
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>>11828727
We do. We just use bug people (such as yourself) for mass production.
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>>11826553
I don't know how to tell you this, but just because some faggots on the internet say something will happen, that doesn't mean it will.
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>>11822711
>If customs gets a hold on your stuff, every box where it is unclear what might be inside will be opened.
Germany here, can confirm.
It doesn't affect me as much toy-wise as I'm not a mib collector myself for the most part but I've lost a guy I was sharing shipping/customs fees over this.
Customs here have gone completely mad with power ever since Trump's tariffs. Like a retarded eunuch entering a dick measuring contest.
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>>11829345
This was implemented in 2024 by the Biden admin. Trump has definitely made things worse for importing, but it's not just one side's fault. This is a bipartisan fuck you to the American people. Both sides suck.
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>>11829356
It's the German government's reaction I was referring to. That makes them appear just as incompetent as they actually are. If it's bad, it's always Trump's fault, because the media said so, you see.
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>>11829356
>This was implemented in 2024 by the Biden admin.
Well, I've imported a lot of stuff since then and didn't have an issue, but now under Trump it's getting worse, on top of his tariff bullshit, so yeah, I'm going to blame him. Facts don't care about your feelings.
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>>11829375
Apparently your feelings don't care about facts lmao
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>>11829383
>TDS
Many such cases.
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>>11829383
This whole thread is pretty much that. Act blue being kneecapped really destroied the glowies here.
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Tell me about customs. Why do they destroy the action figures?
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>>11829332
It did happen
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>>11822161
>customs will seize your dolls
fucking so sick of these retarded normalfags and their self-righteous destruction of paid-for personal property, thinking they're some kind of paragon of justice, probably gives them some kind of erection or sick satisfaction knowing how much it's gonna hurt some poor schmuck somewhere and then pretend-pearl-clutch about da cheeldrin because the anime doll had a visible cameltoe. we ought to drag them out of their office and stuff them into a barrel before rolling that barrel of monkeys down a slope with a ramp at the end straight into an active volcano. 50 years of plentiful harvests? fuck that, i'll take 5 years of not having to worry about $300+ going to waste because of some performative puritan on period or obnoxious self-loathing boomer girldad.
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>>11829356
Anon he's a kraut, he's clearly taking about the liberation day drama, not the end of the de minimis exemption, although Trump did decide to kill that 2 years earlier since it was supposed to stay until 2027
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>>11829356
>This was implemented in 2024 by the Biden admin

No it wasn't. It's not fucking politics you u.s. fags. This is part of just normal streamlining of entering documentation. You need to upload docs to CBP's ACE portal instead of manual submission by email/mail/fax. The only other difference is that you need to do it prior to entering the country not after the fact if asked. But if you wanted to be fucking tinfoil hat and think everything is politics
> ACE (Automated Commercial Environment) was established in 2016 as the U.S. Customs and Border Protection's electronic trade processing system, replacing the previous Automated Commercial System (ACS)...which would mean Trump's first term.
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>>11829446
>which would mean Trump's first term.
He didn't start his term until January 2017. Obongo was still in charge.
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>>11829590
I always like how people actually take the time to look things up, but don't understand some basic shit like elections.
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>>11829814
also, i need to add this image to show how even senators are retards

Retards like this shouldn't be allowed to hold office and they also shouldn't be allowed to vote.
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>>11829834
>senators are retarded
I live in ny, do you understand the hell i go through in socialist/democrat hell?
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>>11829868
enlighten us
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>>11828213
Amiami should still have a lot of that paperwork already from when they sold those things, or theyre able to get in contact with the factory anyways if they don't.

I'd worry about mandarake more than amiami.
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>>11830076
kek
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>>11830076
Hilarious if true, they may not realize that their entire business depends on the US market.
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>>11830076
>japan refuses to comply
>suddenly China is copying and making better versions while also finding loopholes to ship it all
Japan is going to lose HARD soon
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>>11830076
Snail Shell stonks
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>I won't be able to import because dipshit parents keep buying toxic shit from temu
This is the actual worst. Fuck clueless parents. Fuck the government.
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>>11830076
False, bandai has already provided the required documentation, heard taktom has with transformers no idea why beyblade and licca are excluded
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>>11830113
I just got the worst smelling knockoff figures from aliexpress. Pretty sure I'm being poisoned in some way touching them.
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>>11822161
It's worth noting that Customs largely won't just wantonly destroy shipments lacking the proper paper work left and right. The procedure is to contact the recipient or sender, ask for the paperwork, and then send it along its way when its received. That's how it's SUPPOSED to work anyways. I'm sure you'll get some shitty customs asshole that takes out his shitty day on some random anon's package.
>>11828213
Technically, under the guidelines, pre-owned items, gifts, and the like (aka stuff that's virtually impossible to have the necessary paperwork) wouldn't need it. It is, however, still up to Amiami (or whoever you buy from in general) to mark such things appropriately on the customs and paperwork. It's also worth noting that the New (but actually old) restrictions largely apply to items officially marked as marked for children (I believe it was 12 and under), which doesn't affect most items since a majority of the shit the likes of the anons here buy are marked for 14+. There will be some growing pains, but it's not anywhere remotely as bad as people think.

~Signed a customsfag anon
>>11829375
>Well, I've imported a lot of stuff since then
Because they didn't have shit in place to enforce it till now, and thus gave a two year grace period.
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Nin-nin game is retarded
>Took 30 dollars from me for shipping when I bought the item
>Wants 30 dollars more to ship it now
>That's on top of any additional duties due that I'll pay DHL
>All for this item I already fucking paid for
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>>11830189
>Because they didn't have shit in place to enforce it till now, and thus gave a two year grace period.
So Trump could have repealed it and didn't? So it IS his fault. Thanks for explaining.
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>>11830273
They’re always wrong about weight estimates.
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>>11830273
>Took 30 dollars from me for shipping when I bought the item
For a preorder item?
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>>11830091
They don't care. They would rather go out of business than have their figures go somewhere they don't intend
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>>11830189
Well we have already seen reports of destroyed figures, so we know it's going to happen. The question is just how often and who is going to reimburse people for it
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>>11830275
It's likely this was planned as far back as Clinton or Bush and the more modern presidents have no idea it is even happening.
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>>11830076
as expected, its the toys actually intended for children that will be a problem
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>>11828117
>need to ship item
>shipping time 2-3 weeks
>would receive it after the 8th
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>>11830117
Transformers is intended for the US market. Some Beyblade toys and probably all Licca- chan toys are not.
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>>11830189
Does customs really have the space to store all those packages while waiting for the response?
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How does this affect amazon jp and new Bandai/takara products?
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>>11830317
Amazon can only dream of their storage space, funded by your tax dollars.
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>>11830189
>Technically, under the guidelines, pre-owned items, gifts, and the like (aka stuff that's virtually impossible to have the necessary paperwork) wouldn't need it.

source? i know there's an exemption for gifts but i've never seen anything that explicitly says that secondhand items are exempt.
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>>11830970
I don't see how they wouldn't be. what if you're shipping parts of a toy? broken pieces? a custom?
I guess it's the subjectiveness.
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>>11826417
>>11826449
>>11826464
These forecasts are from the type of people that are doing things like trying to sell advertising time on broadcast, cable and streaming.

There's no cross-tabs, even when "data" is supplied, or actual details when it is not. For example, Funko Pops are considered "action figures" by these types of marketing/survey presentations. Additionally, things like ImagineNext would be considered "licensed action figures," -- both of these would not be considered the type of thing we would discuss on this board or that people would admit to being interested in on this board.

I agree that this is >>11822169 the worse kind of trolling shit-take, and it's largely false to a degree, but these charts are also about as fully valid as any poll put forth in an election year.
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>>11832158
Yeah, it's honestly damn near impossible to find sales figures for action figures, especially global sales, as they tend to just get lumped in with the much larger general toy sales, and there's a lot of projections cluttering up the search results. That said, global sales were allegedly between 9.1 and 12.4 billion in 2025 according to most sources. As for actually pinning down an accurate number within that range from a reliable source, good luck.
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>>11829868
and you haven't hooked AOC up to the milk pumps yet because...?
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Amazing how shit this thread is with virtually no good information
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>>11833380
No one really knows what is going to happen or how things will react and how businesses will respond. That's what happens with regulation. Uncertainty.
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>>11833380
>>11833405
Honestly Bubby? In this day and age? With those hachi little chachis and a coomity coom? Americans deserve this ass fucking.
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>>11833428
This is the shit im talking about just total shitposting and /pol/ tier buzz words
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>>11833405
Then suspend shipping and the options to buy? You’re going to have a ton of refunds and shit being destroyed knowing the average importer.
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>>11833497
Maybe Americans should adopt slavery like in the good ol' days
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>>11828117
So like, nobody knows shit
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>>11833428
Don't worry chungusfurry, no one will force you to stop being brown and third world.
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>>11822711
>live in the most capitalist country on earth
>fall victim to capitalist greed
>call it socialism
This will never not be the funniest cope of all time.
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The Book of Importation said,

14:1 Behold on the third day I beheld him, a giant man clothed in the scales of a dragon walking towards my package. And lo did the man say, "I shall open your package and scrape it with mine blade for samples of its lowborn make up, that I might smite ye if it contains even 0.1% cadmium or lead."

And thus I beheld the great destruction as he tore apart mine package, disheveling the packing material, tearing open the box, and scraping the paint off every belabored piece of my valuable importage until no piece was left unscathed. And then the remains were tossed in a garbage bag to settle. Lo was it marked "DESTROYED," I saw much weeping and gnashing of teeth. But nothing could be done. Mine package was destroyed.
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Well here's Rakuten's official statement about it. Pretty much don't fucking buy anything that's part of this because they're not getting any of the paperwork
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>>11835004
Do these people not understand that not all toys are for kids?
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>>11835008
>Policy making boomers understanding anything
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>>11835004
We are living in interesting times. (That's bad.)
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>>11835003
Absolute literature.
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>>11835008
Well I've heard that there are modifiers to the HTS codes or other ways to mark things as 15+ or not for children but if they inspect something and there's no age rating on the item then you're fucked
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>>11835018
Isn't there a marker for 'collectible' ?
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>>11835070
thats an awfully vague term for mouthbreathing customs agents
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>>11835004
What the fuck man
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>>11835003
AmiAmen
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so what changes? you got to send someone some codes or the seller does? how does this affect pre owned shit or customs?
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>>11835228
Customs has to have a fucking insane amount of product safety testing information and certificates for any thing that could possibly be for a child (age rating of 12 and under). It's actually an insane requirement
https://www.ghy.com/trade-compliance/consumer-product-safety-commission-cpsc-reporting-begins-july-8/
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>>11835228
Lol no the manufacturer has to send out certifications stating the japanese toy can pass US safety tests, you cannot just slap an adult collectible hts code on the package that has a child toy in it "You can but you have to be sneaky like china" Nips won't do it
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Fantastic. Guess I can't buy gachapon stuff anymore unless one of the other proxy sites has work arounds
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>>11835304
More and more this looks grim, the pessimists have won have they?
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>>11835330
I think this is going to get giga fucked. I feel like even 15+ goods will get fucked because the nips won't mark them correctly. I hope Buyee doesn't scorched earth everything because I think 2nd hand goods should be exempt from needing CPC and GCC which is like 90% of the stuff they proxy for
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>>11835339
every proxy is fucked, their main market is toys and videogames,
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>>11835340
Like I said, from my understanding from all the reading I've been doing, second hand goods are an exception to this new shit. If proxies were smart, they would just break the seal on new products and mark everything correctly as used goods.
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>>11835351
But then buyers who didn't want that will be pissed and angry about it. It's really lose-lose for them
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How will places like bbts or ee or smaller toy stores get around this?
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>>11835378
Manufacturers will provide them the correct documents for bulk sale. If they don't then the items won't be available.
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>>11835304
Yep I just checked the HTS code rakuten used for my last gacha order and it's on the burn list
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>>11835404
Yeah it's fucked. They'll just be a completely blacklisted now for import
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>>11835404
>on the burn list
link to this "burn list"?
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>>11835575
https://www.cpsc.gov/s3fs-public/CPSC-Guidance-and-HTS-List-for-Filing-of-Electronic-Certificates-6B-Cleared.pdf
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>>11835383
So basically all the weird Chinese independent toy companies like Snail Shell or Hazuki are no longer going to be available in the US?
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>>11835853
Chinks will find workarounds as they always do. Temu and aliexpress will be back in like a month
Other countries will see all the paperwork and say fuck that.
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>>11835853
neither of those produce stuff for kids, only 15 up, why would they be affected?
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>>11835888
>Customs agent: Well well looks like we have an undeclared toy here, into the trash it goes
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>>11835888
If they don't file the proper paperwork from the manufacturer it doesn't matter who it's supposed to be for
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>>11835936
Not true actually. You're supposed to indicate that the item is 15+ in the customs info somehow (better have that shit on the product box though or you're fucked). The certificate shit is only for children's shit, 12 and under.
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Welp just paid for this months order. Time to find out how Amiami handles this fucking nightmare. I'm thinking 90% chance my order is destroyed or returned.
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>>11834990
I was just about to ask, if you have no clue about capitalism or socialism, why don't you just shut up instead of embarrassing yourself so spectacularly. But then I realized that you're probably a young leftist, fresh out of college, and that's to be expected.
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>>11836378
>if you have no clue about capitalism or socialism
Well, based on what I've learned from you, any time something good happens it's capitalism, and anytime something bad happens it's socialism. You must have been the goodest goy in your graduating class!
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>>11836408
>I rank first in my useful idiots class, chud.
And I was right. Shocking, but not really that shocking.
Next you'll lecture me on the free market and Elon Musk.
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>>11835989
Are they opening every shipping box now just to look for age labels? That's crazy
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>>11836629
Not a chance lol. Our shipping infrastructure almost collapsed having to do tariffs. I'm sure they'll do random checks if they feel like it so when that happens you're shits fucked if it isn't lableled
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>>11836665
Looking at a couple of boxes from import figures, all the stuff I get has a clearly marked label for being ages 15+. Bandai, Medicom, Amazing Yamaguchi. As long as the proper paperwork is filed, all the stuff I get should be fine.
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>>11835876
Aliexpress is already up lol the chinks found workarounds
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>one figure I had on reserve released in early June but took an entire month to be fully stocked because the manufacturer shorted them
>another figure thats had an entire year of delays finally released
>neither will ship before the date
fuuuuuck.
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>>11838304
It's not fun being Test Subject #39 for customs' new revenue generation scheme.
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>>11838304
>another figure thats had an entire year of delays finally released
Tragic, ain't it? Delayed for an entire year just in time to go through customs on the first day of the new bullshit.
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>>11840448
hope it makes it through for you
HobbySearch didn't say anything about an ECMS pause >>11835915 so both of mine might end up sitting in the ECMS JP warehouse for an indeterminate amount of time
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>>11840456
>hope it makes it through for you
We'll both make it, anon. I can feel it burning in my heart.
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>>11840456
I also just had an ECMS package just leave Japan last night. I'm hoping it makes it through before the deadline but I really doubt it.
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>>11835004
Hot take, I think children should be round up and sealed within an education based boot camp until the age of 18 from now on. Then no one has to fear for their "safety".
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>>11836261
I had some stuff I needed to ship from HLJ but couldnt at the moment... fuck me
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another chunky little package successfully delivered :)
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>>11840481
Good luck, Anon. My Mafex Punisher hasn't left Nihon yet. I imagine CBP is gonna shred him.
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>make "record breaking profits" with tariffs
>Immediately press the "turn off imports" button
huh? something doesnt add up
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>>11840456
Amiami hasn't either. Just shipped my order yesterday
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>>11840666
Yeah almost like Trump is an idiot
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>>11840456
Any update from you anon? My Mafex Punisher has been sitting at "Flight Arrived" status in LA since Tuesday and now I'm scared.
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>>11842127
NtA, but one that also has a Mafex Punisher waiting in L.A. Hoping for the best, but expecting the worst, lol.
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>>11842127
>>11842169
my first package departed Japan but hasn't arrived to the US
my second package (J-Decker...) is going to be trapped in Japan because HS took too long to post it

does your tracking say it cleared customs before arrival? pic rel, from an old tracking number
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>>11842170
Mine said Import Customs Clearance Completed approximately 8 hours before it arrived in-country.
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Ali works perfectly fine but of course it would since those fuckers just lie with HTS codes. My shit for kids - blokees passed import customs clearance
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>>11842170
The cleared customs I think is for Japan's customs leaving the country, but yes, mine does say that too. Mine is still just on "Flight Arrival" at LAX.
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>>11842310
Wait, mine is like yours too now that I check, I have USPS tracking number but they haven't gotten it yet.
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>>11842170
Welp, it cleared customs. USPS now has Punisher in their possession and I should get him on Saturday.
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>>11842919
How'd Frank do it? How did he escape the package pilferers?
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>>11842919
Mine is in USPS possession, too. Guess that means he's okay? Hopefully my Whale Works buck won't have any issues.
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>tfw tried to buy a pack of Shokugan toku stuff
>store said no because of this new customs thing
This only applies to new stuff right? If I bought them second hand down the line they're surely exempt... right?
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Anyone know if minipla applies to this? Am I fucked out of getting this?
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You guys better start getting your bucket list stuff together because in 5-10 years these types of niche smaller one off business to customers imports are going to be regulated out of existence.

This isn't just an orange man bad issue.
The EU passed basically the same thing.

Just had my online store for my US business tell i'm required to register and liable to collect sales taxes in two
Canadian provinces for as little as one sale.

This would mean from now until the end of time I have to collect, file, and remit quarterly sales tax payments to
two other Non US government entities on top of everything else I already have to do for the US, quarter sales tax, annual income, etc.

The UK did the exact same shit back in 2021 when it left the EU, and smaller online business across the globe closed their doors to brits because it required them to register with the government and submit quarterly reports, no matter if you made a sale $50 or $5,000 in sales for a specific quarter.

There's going to be mass extinction event a lot of smaller business that relied on international sales for a large portion of sales going out of business/complete refuse to ship globally.

Thehe alternative is either successfully scaling up to pay someone to keep up with filing quarterly reports for every province & geographic region or some insane person who owns the business driving themself mad trying to keep up with filing reports themselves with the pressure of ~110+ world government organizations breathing down their necks.

We cannot even begin to imagine how bad things will truly get in that span of time.

How many businesses do you think can keep up with being in compliance for full global service, because I know I can't.
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>>11844076
Who told you that you had to do that? The US gov or the Canadian gov? Cuz if you ain't from Canada what can the Canadan gov do to you if you don't? If the US gov is saying you need to collect sales tax for sales to send to Canada then that is nucking futs.
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>>11844326

The UK and Canada did.

The UK:

https://www.geraldedelman.com/insights/uk-vat-for-us-companies-all-your-questions-answered/

https://zonos.com/blog/uk-vat-changes-2020

"UK VAT number required:
ALL businesses selling goods TO the UK will be required to register for a VAT number with Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs (HMRC)."


Canada:

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/taxes/sales-taxes/pst/register#who-needs-to-register

You must register to collect and remit PST if you're located in B.C. and do any of the following in the ordinary course of your business in B.C.

"Sell taxable goods in B.C."

If any of the following apply to you, you may also be required to register:

https://www.rlb.ca/provincial-sales-tax-registration-requirements-for-businesses-located-outside-of-the-province/

'Out-of-province businesses that sell/lease taxable goods to Manitoba purchasers who are acquiring the goods for consumption or use in Manitoba i.e. not for resale, are REQUIRED to be registered as a vendor under the Act and to collect the RST if:"

The seller
i. causes the goods to be delivered in Manitoba,
iii. accepts orders originating in Manitoba to purchase tangible personal property. The order can be originated by telephone, Internet, e-mail, fax, letter or any other means from a location in Manitoba to the seller or agent located in or out of Manitoba;

"You're located outside B.C. and you make sales to B.C. customers"


>what can the Canadan gov do to you if you don't?
I have a friend in Canada I would like to visit someday, and I don't want to get arrested in the airport.

But the only sensible option is to cancel those orders and block that region from ever buying from me again.

1/2
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>>11844345
If the trend where countries like the EU are playing follow the leader with the US continues, which I have no reason to believe they won't.

Then this type of tax liability compliance for foreign business-to-customer shipments will become a growing issue across the globe.

This doesn't effect larger scale businesses who can keep up with the liability, and companies who sell products at wholesale into businesses officially registered in the country they are sending product into, I.E. Bandai Japan to Big Bad Toy store USA, but this will have a very strong chilling effect of stopping import of products that never officially entered wholesale into the destination country. I.E. Japan region locked exclusives, extremely niche merchandise, one-offs, handmade products.

But it's going to become much much harder to get anything that isn't officially imported into the country or that isn't on Ebay or Amazon. Which means the supply will be constricted and everything will be more expensive to get.

This is a move to further consolidate power into larger corporations even further.

Nothing is safe, this affects every type of product imaginable

2/2
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>>11844076
>>11844345
>>11844361
Jesus christ this is depressing, and I got a few grails I wanna get but fuck me getting them is gonna be hard.
I'm at least thankful that my local stores at least have eu distributors they can get import stuff from, but god knows how long that will last
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>>11844076
>>11844345
>>11844361
>was able to start affording this hobby not even a year ago
Its just not fair, man. My luck is shit.
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>>11845432
No more tearing packages apart for customs?
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>>11845592
At least not with the last batch of packages they sent off. In theory, packages should be safe as long as they use the right HTS code and they aren't opened by customs (and found in violation).
It's gets iffy though if you order something like say a Picconeemo doll. The package says its intended for children, the HTS code that *should* be used is the one for dolls to avoid falsely entering information but (1) the HTS code for dolls requires CSPC material testing and (2) it's 99% going to be an adult buying it for themselves and there's no way for Customs to prove that one way or the other. Which do you enter it as, as a business if you want to stay above the board?
That's where the uproar of this all comes into play. There's still a wide variety of things that are in the gray or black areas - plushies, candy toys / blind boxes, dolls, action figures made for kids (SO-DO), other toys made for kids (tokusatsu toys) and so on.
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>>11845624
From my interpretation, it seems they would have to say its a doll but acknowledge it doesn't have the testing and thus it would be destroyed by customs. Isn't the intent of the regulation effectively banning dolls (or other kid toys) without the testing from being imported because they could be "dangerous"?

Not the answer anyone here would want to hear but it sounds like the intent of the regulation: to keep kids toys that aren't tested in the way the US wants from being imported into the US, whether by huge corporations or individuals. The US doesn't know or care if adults are buying the toys for themselves. It can't be reasoned with either. It is a hammer and all it knows is how to drive nails and smash toys. I don't see a legit solution for legit Japanese stores to import kids toys without the material testing.
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retarded laws are also robbing us of kawaii menhera cosplayers :(



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