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Previous >>11819324

>Upcoming Transformers
https://pastebin.com/w9czybbt
>Leaks and rumors
https://pastebin.com/amFgxBQy
>Online Stores for TFs
https://pastebin.com/3raSp3ZY
>Where to watch TF shows:
https://pastebin.com/sR4Y7xWi
>Transformers General Archives:
https://archive.palanq.win/toy/search/subject/%2Ftfg%2F%20-%20Transformers%20General/
New thread at page 9 or 10 or at image limit
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I know I'll never buy one of these Flame Toys
But fuck me if they don't dress to impress
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>>11828877
thank ya kindly, Madge.
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>>11828879
>>11828877
wait are these not 3p

I think the second one works a lot better as a digimon than a transformer.
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I have officially licensed third party chinese slop fatigue. A very specific kind of fatigue I know.
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>>11828883
They're definitely not for everyone
It was just the latest piece of news
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>>11828886
It just confuses me.
why would any of it be legal. who would allow that. why is the country not being 1000% embargoed
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>>11828888
Oh. I could see that, I guess.
I thought you meant keep the Magnus trailer as is and just make the inner bot Optimus.
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>>11828897
I also thought that's what anon was getting at
I'm very surprised his suggestion has not been done. I guess because it makes Magnus kind of redundant, but when has that ever stopped them?

I suppose one could easily make the trailer Primal-colored as a neat sort of thematic idea.
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>>11828879
Just wait for Adamas Machina Lio Convoy.
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>>11827902
I don't think it's insurmountable, but I also think Kingdom Rodimus kind of sucked to begin with. The state of things is pretty dire though.
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>>11828889
>why would any of it be legal. who would allow that
Because they wanted to pick up the license and Hasbro allowed them to license it
>why is the country not being 1000% embargoed
Because we do not have the capacity to make toys like China does for the cheap price they do.
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>>11828938
all the more reason
besides these things are always ludicrously expensive.
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>>11828948
>besides these things are always ludicrously expensive.
anon what are you talking about, the blokees stuff is dirt cheap.
Flame Toys is the more expensive 3P licensed stuff and that's Japanese.
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>>11828877
We really need a car shockwave
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>>11828956
blokees is chinese!?!?!?!??!?!
god dammit, we're fucked.
>flame toys is japanese
the dick you say? they're known only for unlicensed knockoffs of japanese properties.
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>>11828889
What, the model kits? They don't transform, that's the gimmick.
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>>11828975
I realize that helps them feel like less of a competition, but it's still strange
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>>11828972
Anon you seem really out of the loop.
Flame Toys is related to Sentinel, the Japanese high end figure company, everything they make is licensed.
Blokees is a Chinese brand, also all licensed
The other major Chinese licensed brand is Yolopark, which is from Hong Kong specifically
Then there's Threezero, HK based, does expensive high end non-Transforming figures.
I'm curious what you think is Chinese, what you think Flame Toys makes, etc.
Are you confusing this stuff with the stuff in the 3P Transformers thread, which is generally unlicensed figures(and far more expensive than most Yolopark/Blokees)
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>>11828982
hong kong isn't china, that doesn't count.
There must be an unlicensed chinese 3p company that sounds just like 'Flame Toys' and I got them mixed up
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>>11828967
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>>11828983
Well Blokees is like the one mainland Chinese licensed company.
>There must be an unlicensed chinese 3p company that sounds just like 'Flame Toys' and I got them mixed up
Fans Toys?They exist because Takara wasn't making MP toys fast enough. They filled a niche Takara couldn't.
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>>11828986
Ah yes, Sockwave
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>>11829003
Fans Toys and maybe Cang Toys? I think I mixed those together in my head. If you told me it was called Fang Toys I would have been like "oh yeah, them."
Stupid brain. Used to be so good at this shit.
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>>11829006
There's generally a bunch of ___toys 3P companies. Fans Toys, cang Toys, Mecha fans Toys, MakeToys, some come and go.
Generally it just isn't worth Takara or Hasbro to chase them down, at best they ask them not to be sold anywhere they have official tie-ins to(like a few Botcons where vendors couldn't sell 3P), but otherwise they can't really stop wholesalers like TF source or BBTS from selling both.
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>>11829008
oh totally, I understand that part of the 3P situation just fine. It's the actually-licensed ones that perplex me.
It'd be like getting mad that drug lords are smuggling heroin into your state, so you just allow a few of them to pay a fee to be allowed to do it
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>>11829028
Is it different than Hasbro having companies sell t-shirts with Transformers on it? If they pay money for making them and don't overlap with what Hasbro sells, Hasbro profits with work on their end.
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Oh good, my Walmart app said they delivered my package, but the photo they posted isn't from my doorstep. I guess I'll have to go around my neighborhood tomorrow looking for my oder. Thanks a lot, Walmart minimum wage drone.
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>>11829048
It would be if one of those companies was in china, a country with a history of bootlegging t-shirts, and whose "economy" is based around destroying ours, yes.
It's like the fucking backstory in the Animatrix, with China in place of the machines. Everyone's just continuing to funnel them money in exchange for cheap labor while having less and less money as a result.
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>>11829052
I kinda waaant it.
>>11829060
that suuuucks. I don't suppose you have a neighborhood email group / nextdoor thing where you can ask if anyone got your package.. Or maybe the neighbor who found it will read the address and bring it over. I've done that before, though immediately afterward, I realized it made me look like a thief that chickened out.
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>>11829071
Anon, where do you think most of these toys were manufactured for decades? The only reason they moved elsewhere was to find even cheaper places to manufacture.
China's economy feeds off selling to the west. Has been this way for centuries.
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>>11829100
A) that's completely different.
2) that's its own problem that needs working on. Hell, that is largely the reason they're ABLE to bootleg our shit.
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>>11828986
Yeah, like that but a newer, better one.

The shockwave in the OP has door wings, they look more high tech, concept car-ish.
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>>11829028
Hasbro also has companies like Kaiyodo and Super7 make toys of their characters. Even Mattel and Bandai on very special occasions.
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>>11829120
yeah that part isn't even a little strange. They just have some caveat about them not being able to transform or what have you
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>>11829122
No companies are allowed to make transforming toys of transforming characters except for Takara Tomy and Hasbro
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>>11829116
The manufacturing for these things is always going to be outsourced because the cost would be too high here. Simple as that.
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>>11829124
yes, that.
>>11829127
like I said, completely different situation. Almost opposite.
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>>11829130
So you have an issue with Chinese companies producing their own designs that they licensed the IP from through legal means?
Is your whole angle just China bad?
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>>11828783
>It's kind of psychotic that there's never been a release of an Ultra Magnus mode with an inner robot that gave the inner robot Optimus' usual color scheme.
Technically they made this not too long ago - it's a repainted version of Siege Ultra Magnus' inner bot but lacks the trailer/armor bits. It's still 100% compatible with Siege's (and Earthrise's) armor, though, so you can technically have a "Powered Convoy" by combining the two.
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>>11829148
first of all, that's not an angle. that's like 'oxygen good'
secondly, my point is that I'm surprised these companies legally license any business from there, for a multitude of reasons, rather than simply employ them in factories to outsource labor. You would think, given the unlicensed 3P situation, they wouldn't be so keen on it. Not to mention Japan just hates China and has since long before it was deserved. And compared to Japan, we're getting off easy. They are being actively attacked. It just seems odd.
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>>11829207
And you can do a "proper" upgrade if you got the SG Ultra Magnus. The colors match it very well.
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>>11829215
>>11829207
>>11828897
They should recolor the Magnus Trailer grey with blue highlights like Optimus' regular trailer. They might have to retool the larger head though.
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>>11829118
So pissed I couldn't nab this.
They did put out a 3P kit to help convert RTS Jazz into a attempt at this, but It only sort-of works.
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>>11829291
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What's wrong with this figure? Why does it leave people so unsatisfied?
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>>11829208
>You would think, given the unlicensed 3P situation, they wouldn't be so keen on it.
This is exactly why they do these licensed figures.
Back in the day, stores like Big Lots and Family Dollar used to felt a lot of KO figures, so Hasbro offered them official figures at cheaper prices as an alternative and cornered that market.
Licensing to Chinese companies officially slightly undercuts their own unlicensed market. Its still different niches, but if something like Blokees gets a buyer who wants something in that scale over a KO or 3P legends or something like that. Some profit for the official brand
>Not to mention Japan just hates China
They still want to sell in China, though. Which is why Blokees has so many Japanese IPs.
The fact that all these licensed companies produce their own engineering and molds kinda undercuts your idea that they're stealing this stuff. The licenses just facilitate their ability to make their own product.
It's like Gabe's logic behind steam- if you're being pirated excessively, it means there's a market interested, just not willing to pay current market price, so you restructure to find a way to sell.
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>>11829333
It's not worth the price.
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>>11829333
>"why does overpriced tooner slop destined to be replaced by a slightly superior version in 2-4 years leave people unsatisfied?"
Truly, it is a mystery.
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>>11829333
I thought it was just fine. A tad overpriced, but I'm not poor enough to give that much of a shit about it. It's the best mainline toon inspired Prime we've gotten and that we'll get for a good while now. People are just salty because they had to pay $100 for it.
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Transformers adjacent but I got my shipping notice for Pegasus Saber
I would have liked to have got it in hand before TFCon but that looks extremely unlikely
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>>11829333
Overpriced and not as accurate as it could've been, also a lot of them had issues out of the box partly because of how crappy it was packed. Also any opinion that uses "toon" unironically just does not matter.
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>>11829333
Fake grill abs
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>>11829359
I don't know what this is and I don't care, post Transformers in this thread and other shit elsewhere.
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>>11829404
Would you say that if it were Gobots?
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Still no good toys on the horizon, huh? Damn.
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>>11829418
Why the fuck would you think people here care about Gobots, most of us here are under 40 I'd imagine.
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>>11829434
Not what I asked
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>>11829207
>It's kind of psychotic that there's never been a release of an Ultra Magnus mode with an inner robot that gave the inner robot Optimus' usual color scheme.
Not really. We only JUST started getting Magnuses (Magni?) with proper inner bots over the past few years, and most Prime collectors are basic bitches that wouldn't be interested in a Prime figure with non-canonical armor, anyway.

The bigger tragedy is that every single Optimus Prime mold doesn't get a blue diaclone repaint by default, because blue/black/silver with yellow eyes goes hard as fuck, with or without armor.
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For 16 bucks at Target, Ss devastation Sideswipe is pretty cool
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>>11829333
I think it's perfectly fine.
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>>11829434
>most of us here are under 40
That's quite the assumption you're making, especially since most people here have stated they grew up with the original G1 cartoon and movie. I'm guessing the average age range here is between 38-45.
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The old red white and blue.
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>>11829455
>posting Caine after the TADC finale + Nooseworx crashout
Seems a bit cringe no?
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>>11829523
>especially since most people here have stated they grew up with the original G1 cartoon and movie
>doubt
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>>11829593
>Seems a bit cringe no?
Not to me.
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>>11829333
Satisfied with mine, pleased even.
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>>11829339
I guess, but it's pretty obvious these tactics are not working seeing who's growing and who's dying
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>>11829359
with those legs it looks less like a centaur and more like some of that 'hyper' shit
still, cool in theory
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>>11829525
sniff..
beautiful.
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>>11829333
I like mine but I got him for Leader price. If I'd paid full price for him I'd be mad. Also he absolutely deserved greater than 90 degree elbows.
Good figure, and an improvement on ER, but not a full size class price hike better than ER, who is also good.
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>>11829523
Hide and ignore post-election zoomies
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>>11829686
Under my watchful eyes, nothing shall threaten our freedoms!
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>>11829741
the hero we need.

... would it be in bad taste to want to see her doing the 'sassy lady soldier in front of the pile of bad guys' pose? Because I always thought that girl was cute and that the main problem was letting that picture leak. You join the Decepticons, you know what you're in for.
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>>11829621
How new are you, kid? What was your first Transformers line/cartoon? Most of us started with either G1 or Beast Wars.
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>>11829525
>>11829741
I love the Ameribirb.
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>>11829748
beauty
I need to take more pics of mine...
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Have Scourge on the way, PO’d Cyclonus, should I get Galvatron?
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>>11829747
NTA but my first Transformers was Beast Wars, and first toy was Bat Primal and Alligstor Megs of maybe Iguanus. I read a few secondhand G1 comics which is how I found out about it slightly before the reveal in BA seasom 2 which was the coolest shit ever. And I got old G2 toys of Laser Prime, Space Case, Snarl and somehow a G1 Blitzwing with all my Beast Wars stuff.

Cyberjet remakes fucking when?!
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>>11829439
The legend comic with the classics repaint in these colors was amazing. And him a microman fan so tying him into that was awesome too.
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>>11829684
I'm glad I don't have the eyes you do
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>>11829790
it makes it much harder to enjoy things, yeah.
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>Joyride is redeco of Sureshot
>Slapdash is 100% gonna be a redeco of Mirage
So, think they'll pull out the Sunstreaker/Wheeljack mold for Getaway?:
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>>11829747
33, started with Beast Wars. I'm about the average Millennial 4channer age I'd imagine, maybe a bit younger. There's almost 10 years between the end of the G1 show and Beast Wars which is a big difference, Even as someone who's been here since 2006, most anons seemed to be around 15- 22 back then. Just a hair too young for G1 it's it's original run, maybe old enough for G2,but not really early 80's kids.
I know we have some older posters well into their 60's and beyond around, but the TF threads always seemed to skew younger than even TF forums. Even the stuff posted here seems to largely be different from the older half of the fandom that has steered to MPs and 3P stuff.
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>>11829831
people our age do not say 'millennial'
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>>11829843
>no true scotsman retardartion but for being 35

Pathetic
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>>11829523
I’m 47.
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>>11829826
They already gave you Getaway
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>>11829748
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Got a shipment notice for my Onslaught.
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>>11829845
no-true-scotsman, like 'sunk costs' is not a fallacy. it's basic common sense.
gatekeep, and minimize waste.
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>>11829852
That is a handsome couple of modes.
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>>11829683
This is by design, Hasbro doesn't want to stay in the toy game, they want to be an IP company. Offloading the design and manufacture to cheaper companies is likely their inevitable goal.
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>>11829843
I don't use the word in real life, but we've been called millennial constantly online to the point I use it for the sake of communication.
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>>11829864
If you really want to minimize waste you would save us all trouble and kill yourself
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>>11829872
I think it goes deeper than that. I think the chinese are deliberately hijacking and sabotaging every aspect of every non-chinese economy they can work their claws into.
but whatever, nothing we can do.
>>11829875
Fair, I can respect that. I've started to do that with a few neologisms.
still, '90s kid' takes less time AND fewer keystrokes. Or in your case, er, late 90s kid. just Gen Y. that's even faster. And, unlike using
'millennial' to mean Gen Y, it's not a fucking retcon
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>>11829864
Average /toy/ soldier brain function, sad to see but not surprising
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>>11829888
>what is 4chan
If you're not learning to fit in, then you don't belong here
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>>11829910
but anon, 'fitting in' is the REASON for the thing you posted
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>>11829918
>what is gatekeeping
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Who's cooler, Fortress Maximus or Metroplex? Not necessarily referring to these particular toys, just them in general.
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>>11829920
you do not let people through the gate for conforming to some faggy culture. you restrict the knowledge of its gatecode.
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>>11829922
Y'know, they just reused the old Trypticon mold and even gave it a minor remolding... Is it possible at all that New Legends could be where we finally get Metrotitan?
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>>11829333
I paid give or take around $68 shipped on Target and he's solid for that. I have complaints still but I guess he really is the best we have right now without just going for a MP or some sort
I'm still eying a few little things for him like the chest panels and nicer Matrix
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>>11829929
>you restrict the knowledge of its gatecode.
ok fag schizo
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>>11829922
Fortress Maximus in general
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>>11829922
I find them kind of redundant/interchangeable.
It's telling how few continuities there are where both exist, or rather where both exist and Fort Max is a titan.
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I could've and shouldve bought it long ago, but finally gonna have star convoy tomorrow, I am very excited. I hope for no QC issues.
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>>11829960
as an iG1norant beast wars kid, I must agree. I've never once known the difference between the two.
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>>11829946
I got that New Bee kit for cheap and he looks fantastic. I also got a another optimus with the rifle for free when my first order arrived incomplete (no trailer or accesories) so that figure got the Megatron arm.
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>>11829937
Takara at this point might hold off for when Hasbro does the new one. Both FM and Metroplex have early titan issues.
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>>11829994
why do people think they're doing a new one?
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>>11829997
Because they told us they want to do it. This came up when people asked if they could release a retool of Metroplex, they want to make a brand new one.
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SS86 Grimlock's back to his 2021 price for prime day, is he good? Anything bad worth mentioning?
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>>11829003
What's worse FansToys slop or Hasbro slop
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>>11830061
>is he good?
Yes, he's one of the best Grimlocks in ages, if not THE best.
>Anything bad worth mentioning?
He comes with Wheelie.
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>>11830130
The one thing that bothers me about this expensive thing is that I'll still see the screw holes for his head on one side
Also Wheelie's a plus, I like the guy
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>>11830133
The wheelie is really bad, shouldve came with a sword or some teeth and arm covers instead. And then hey made Core Class Wheelie so whats the point?
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>>11830136
I would have really really appreciated a sword as well, but if they had extra plastic and a gun to their head that demanded something relating to the movie and Grimlock, then alright, I get why they were tied by their retard mandate. There's like fifty accessories you could have given him but none of them are from the movie
>And then hey made Core Class Wheelie so whats the point?
Indeed...
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>>11829922
Metroplex is supposed to be a whole fucking city
Fortress Maximus is just supposed to be a fortress.
Metroplex should be like at least 10x bigger than Fort Max.
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>>11830133
I don't get why screw holes bother some people. I just never cared about them at all, they don't really bother me.
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>>11830136
And that Retro G1 Wheelie that just came out, they're absolutely gonna re-release him in Studio Series, but now in toon colors this time!
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>>11830158
Normally it's fine, but if it's on one side of his head...
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I really hope they make a Black/Nemesis Rexblade
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Is Yolopark stuff less model kit and more action figure you need to assemble?
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>>11830136
The point is to make money. Toy companies are not your personal friend, anon. They do not actually have your best interests at heart.
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>>11830161
That's the one I'm waiting for
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>>11830184
I think so. I got the Dinobot and it was really easy to assemble. Just pop on the ball joints. Also, the Dinobot is super good.
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>Look what I got

I got some comments
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>Look what I got

I got some comments after this...

Well, it is the same good old MP soundwave. I remember opening up the original TRU exclusive. It feels like an extravagant event.This one not so much. I guess missing those cassettes does not help—no, I don't think I will get the new cassette sets.

Nothing really changed. But overall the joints feel softer. Mold degradation? I am not sure. The most noticeable parts are the transformation joints above the knees and the hips.

My old SW, 10+ years old, holds on to the shape of the legs pretty strongly when you move the legs. But the new one, the above-the-knee transformation joints, came off a lot more easily.

As for the hip, the old one is still tight as hell in the lateral movement even after a decade. New guy here feels just typical, strong yet not overly right-pinned joints. I don't know it is because of different material or different color resulted in the difference. I guess that is a good thing, as I am still scared moving the old SW legs as I was 10 years ago.

2I can't say I do not know what I'm getting into when I preordered this. But I really hope they fix minor parts on the figure. The tips of the index fingers still fly off too easily. I doubt I can get another 3p handset for it. I wish the paint were a bit better. It really hurt to see minor scratches here and there with a supposed premium line. Though one thing I do have to mention. I have never noticed the left cheek of Soundwave actually has a slight dimple on the surface. The old SW being gloss silver, you don't really see this. But with a flat gray for the faceplate, that shadow from the dimple is really noticeable.

I say it is a good MP soundavr if you do not have one. I do wish it is cheaper considering how old the mold is and I literally pay the same amount 10 years ago for the TRU SW for more stuff
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>>11830221
They really need to make a new MP soundwave. It's kind of wild they haven't. I owned MP-13 for a while and he was cool for the time, but so much of his engineering was already dated and a bit jank 10 years ago, and he could certainly use better articulation in a few key places. And for a guy who just has to turn into a box, he doesn't even do it particularly well.
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I'm surprised they still haven't done a MP Blaster.
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>>11830248

They are now where have you been?
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>>11830255
in jail.
IT WAS A CRIME OF PASSION
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Transformers alternity lore is insane
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>>11830158
>>11830162
Universe Ironhide having such scrawny weedy arms and them being so overloaded with visible screws is probably the worst we ever got.
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>>11830158
>I don't get why screw holes bother some people.
for some, it's about where the screw holes are, but for many, you need to realize these people don't actually like toys; they're obsessed with collecting plastic simulacrums of their nostalgia. They need everything to be as accurate as possible, otherwise their brain might remind them that the world is real and break the decades-long dissasociation they've had from their own life.
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>>11830161
That Retro Wheelie is actually really good. While I don't care for the character himself, I find myself picking him up and transforming him frequently because he's fun and simple.
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>>11829878
>still, '90s kid' takes less time AND fewer keystrokes.
That's a word I'd use in real life with normie friends, but 4chan ruined the ability to unironically declare yourself that here like 15 years ago thanks to the "Remember the 90's" video.
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>>11829333
paint's too bright, looks cheap.
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>>11829985
Lol... as predicted, of course mine gets some ugly as fuck issue, likely because of how shit it's packed in the box. Any way I can make this just... not be there? Would BBTS let me replace it? It's right at the front of the crotch so super noticeable, ridiculous with how much it costs
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>>11830436
You should have know you fucking retard.
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>>11830438
I should have known someone would leave what looks like unremovable dried semen on my star convoy?
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>>11829960
>It's telling how few continuities there are where both exist, or rather where both exist and Fort Max is a titan.
That's because they're both massive toys and Hasbro cannot often make figures of them.
>>11830147
Fortress Maximus is also supposed to have been made from a city.
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>>11830441
Yes, all of the ones posted have had issues.
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>>11830448
I probably wasnt looking at the threads at the time then because most Ive seen was the issue with the chest window that is an easy fix
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>>11828883
If Hasbro simply made better toys, I would not feel the need to buy 3rd party or licensed. But they don't so China and Japan get more of my money.
Hasbro is the real slop
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>>11830147
>Metroplex is supposed to be a whole fucking city
>Fortress Maximus is just supposed to be a fortress.
Metroplex was confirmed to be just a part of Autobot City, pic related. Not only that but Metroplex was going to be called Fortress Maximus at first until they decided to change it, so the names mean nothing.

Also Fortress Maximus is was bigger than Metroplex in the Japanese G1.
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>>11830133
Just buy the godzilla kit and make it look better (also no holes in the head)
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>>11830186
companies making money is in my best interest, and my best interest (giving me what I want as a consumer) makes the companies money
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>>11830402
that fucking accursed spiteful asshole.. still, as Picard said
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>>11830441
Anon.. if your semen glows that yellow against dark blue plastic... cut the beta carotene a bit
>>11830533
eyyy dat guy
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>>11830533
HE'S DA GIANT RAT DAT MAKES ALL OF DA RULES
Side note, I recently got the ER Prowl for dirt cheap (someone was selling the two pack for below retail). Honestly made me cancel my SS86 preorder. He's great and the extra vehicle detail paint that's missing from the SS86 really sells him.
I dunno if I like this mould or the Siege more; both are surprisingly different. I think I like Siege's transformation a bit better.
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>>11830582
Seriously the ER car mode is kinda gorgeous. Siege is no slouch though, I really like the curvy shape of the car. Though it helps I broke out the airbrush to give him black tires and a sort of "anti-glare" finish on the bubble canopy (to hide the greebles- I wasn't expecting to ever get ER Prowl so I figured I'd make the Siege one into a semi-futuristic Earth car with some paint and decals).
Both good toys, and sure beats that horrible pastel blue on the SS86. Really hate that; shoulda been metallic at least to match SS86 Prime.
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>>11830588
Siege car actually looks kinda bad, too long and weird
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>>11830602
I dunno, reminds me of long bonnet/low-drag cars from the 50s and 60s. Has a sort of "coke-bottle" shape.
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>>11830512
The cartoon was never consistent in regards to Metroplex and Autobot city. That pic was in ONE episode.
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>>11830602
well, it is supposed to be an alien police car
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Given how many Golden Lagoon repaints they've done of figures, I'm surprised they never did any Hate Plague repaints
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>>11830604
I really miss cars like that.
that said,
>>11830602
yeahhh the cockpit's WAY too low. looks smushed like a flat hamster.
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>>11830464
Huh
>>11830519
>just buy an expansion pack that probably costs as much as the initial toy
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>>11830633
To be fair the golden lagoon repaints were all done at once as a Takara initiative. Maybe they'll get a hate plague craving some time.r
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should I buy Onslaught?
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>>11830650
They did the occasional gold repaint besides that.
Admittedly, it's because they like doing gold repaints, and not because they love the episode so much. That's just a convenient excuse
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>>11830678
Why would you? He doesn't even come with a handgun. Are you going to pay $100 + tax + shipping + tip for a figure without a gun when Magmatron was $90?
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>>11830688
Hasbro hates giving Onslaught a hand gun. Every new toy of him refuses to give him one.
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>>11829455
Sadly that painted windshield is a huge boner killer....
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>>11830722
It gives you a huge boner because it's killer
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>According to an interview from the Generations book, the New Legends series exists because the designers wanted a new Galvatron to go with the 40th anniversary Lio Convoy.
Have you thanked him yet?
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Is there a way to fix the lopsided flap on star convot? What do
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>>11830741
I'll thank them when New Legends does Big Convoy or Galaxy Convoy
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>>11830741
I'm happy we're getting all these bangers thanks to them.
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I got Predacon in the mail. Its so awesome having a transmetal 1 Megatron mold that doesnt snap at the waste. He was one of my favourite toys as a kid. The 5mm pegs are cool too. I wish I bought everything from back then and kept all my childhood toys in better condition.
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>>11830874
>I wish I bought everything from back then and kept all my childhood toys in better condition.
Me too and as an adult I've started to go to extreme lengths to care for my toys.
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>>11830882
>>11830874
I took care of mine! But I worry I'm letting my current ones get too dusty. my old ones lived a lot in boxes, so
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>>11830882
It does make me appreciate the guys I have more. So does not being a completionist and just picking my fvaourites. I end up with the weirdest teams. I need to take a group pic.
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>>11830910
that is indeed a weird team, and I like it.
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>>11830678
I have him coming with a BBTS order later this week, I'll post some pics once I've got him out of the box.

>>11830688
This is such a fucking hype killer though. I'll probably keep him as Bruticus more often that not anyway, but it's fucking ridiculous that he doesn't come with a gun of his own or that they didn't at least include it with Swindle or one of the other previous Combaticons.
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>>11830874
You ripped his legs and wings off... ;_;
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>>11830874
How's the scale? Just got Henkei Henkei Grimlock and I wanna get a TM2 Megatron to make em duke it out
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>>11830958
Don't lose your mind trying to peg the black panels over his shoulders, even if there are grooves and tabs they don't line up no matter what you do.
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>>11830775
What flap?
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https://x.com/i/status/2070109273154367812
Even the Japanese is getting their Onslaughts. And I'm still salty Nexus Prime is not compatible with Onslaught's frame.
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>>11830612
One episode that actually tried to make sense of it contrary to everything else, so I'll take it.
They point still stands that Fortress Maximus can totally be bigger than Metroplex. It was created from a city in the cartoon and is canonically bigger in Japanese G1.
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>>11830964
>still salty Nexus Prime is not compatible with Onslaught's frame
Nothing tons of duct tape can't fix.
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>>11830935
Just his legs so he could fit lol
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Looks like Tank is next
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>>11830874
How's dino mode look? No smudges or cracks?
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>>11830975
Place your bets. Warpath, Brawl, or neither/other?
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>>11830981
Megatron
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>>11830966
How about hold the tape and adhesives? If that's still the case, I'm waiting all the way until 2028 just for Shattered Glass Heatwave (which is the basis for a Hot Spot).
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>>11830983
I forgot Megatron existed, whoops.
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>>11830971
How would you like it if someone did that to you
Three times, even
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>>11830981
>>11830983
Between Megatron and Brawl
So far they’ve been bayformers
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>>11830991
The entire reason I bought Predacon was because my Megatron lost his legs, and so did everyone elses. So there is a deep irony here.
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>>11830981
My waifu
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>>11830963
On the legs, there's a flap you pull up for vehicle mode where the blue lines should line up and they should sit evenly on each side, but the one on his right leg is raised up slightly.
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>>11831046
Actually my Megatron managed to keep his legs the one single time I transformed him
But his head came off and his torso sheared in apart in two spots
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>>11831050
I hope the leak about a new transmetal megatron is true.
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I'm hearing tell that apparently they have concepts drawn for 30 different characters in Overgear

Not that that means too much, having a load of concept art for a new toy line can't be that uncommon
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>>11831046
It's a cycle of hatred man, I know it's hard but you gotta break it somewh- you gotta stop it somewhere
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>>11831069
The more I see of Overgear Prime, the more I really like his colors. I love how they tinted the red and blue ever so slightly. I once left an T30 Legends Optimus in the sun for several months and that's basically what happened to him.
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>>11831114
That is orange
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>>11831116
Eh, it's really more orange-red. Hence why I said it was "tinted". And orange didn't even used to be its own color. English-speaking countries called it "yellow-red" until they imported oranges and decided to name the color after the fruit.
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>>11831122
Bait
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>>11831125
Wait
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New Sky-byte when?
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>>11831135
Last year you fucking retard!
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>>11831136
yes and I want another one. Go play with your Optimus sharts.
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>>11831048
Make sure you're not attaching it on the wrong holes. Both sides use the same panel just flipped, so they designed it with more holes than actually necessary. Just line up the blue lines and attach it.
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Can we make good alt modes again? We've needed a good off-road/buggy mold for decades, and THIS is the one we're running with? Both the original G1 Sureshot and Joyride mog the hell out of this turd. I'm tired of robots that transform into ugly slabs with wheels pegged on. That's not fun.
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>>11831143
They’re based on G1 toys whose designs were moving away from realism anyway. What do you expect?
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>>11830910
oh wow RM Road Rocket, that is a rare one
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>>11831148
>What do you expect?
A little effort would be nice
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>>11831148
It's always funny when people try to excuse bad alt modes by pointing to G1 when the G1 alt modes were better than the modern attempt. Why can't toys with modern engineering and ever-increasing price tags seem to do better?
>What do you expect?
I dunno. A toy that actually looks cool? An alt mode that isn't mogged by its 40-year-old counterpart? Effort? Take your pick.
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>>11831143
>>11831159
And while I understand the need for repaints, it really gives Joyride a raw deal because his OG alt mode was even better than Sureshot's. There's a palpable difference between a toy that was actually designed to look appealing, and this character checklist slop we get nowadays.

It's not even like the majority of G1 bots where people obviously have an attachment to the character. Who the fuck cares about Sureshot or Joyride? Their appeal is that they were fun toys with neat gimmicks that looked cool, and the modern versions are fumbling most of that.
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>>11831143
>robots that transform into ugly slabs with wheels pegged on
hey, that's not fair. Sometimes they don't even get wheels.
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>>11831143
if you want good alt modes buy the hot wheels collabs
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>>11831142
Oh seems that worked but it honestly felt like I was gonna break it doing that, whoever designed how this thing works is not very good at their job
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I hope that if they ever do a new Razorclaw, it’s not a Commander class. Just make it a big leader and the rest of the Predacons Voyagers.
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>>11831170
>if you want good alt modes in the toyline where the entire purpose is that alt modes even exist, you have to buy the limited, overpriced crossover stuff.
Grim. But I did already buy Boneshaker specifically for that reason. He legit feels more like an old classics or even high-tier Cybertron trilogy toy in the best way possible.
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>>11831143
>>11831159
The saddest thing apart from the completely horrid proportions is how it whiffs it on even the smallest details, like the fists folding in behind the canopy to look like intake vents, or the little stylized blasters at the edge of the rear spoiler. I'm not saying everything always needs to be exactly the same as geewunn, but those are simply the things that make the geewunn toy cooler and more appealing to me.

Little touches like that are the definition of SOVL, and Transformers sadly aren't designed like that anymore. It's all just character checklist slop. Don't ask questions, just consume robots and then get excited for next robots.
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>>11831143
The alt mode looking horrible is bad, but the way that Powermaster attaches is a travesty unto itself. Who the fuck approved of a design where the "engine block" completely obstructs the windshield? Why couldn't they have him plug into a recessed opening like the original? If they were able to figure out how to make it work 40 years ago, why is this so difficult now?
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>>11831184
Because it's a repaint of a targetmaster toy
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>>11831184
>Who the fuck approved of a design where the "engine block" completely obstructs the windshield? Why couldn't they have him plug into a recessed opening like the original? If they were able to figure out how to make it work 40 years ago, why is this so difficult now?
Because it's just a Sureshot repaint, and Sureshot always had the blocked windshield thing, pic related.
Not saying it doesn't look like shit, but here's your reason.
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>NO Liege those aren't dildos
Yeah I hope DNA will make kit with hard plastic parts to replace rubber, more monstrous head and less sex toy like darts.
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>>11831143
I was about to commend hasbro for even making a new powermaster mold for Joyride, but apparently that was at the cost of him coming with any kind of gun, whatsoever. Who likes Joyride enough as a character to buy this half-assed simulacrum? At least the original fucking looks cool, AND has a gun. This guy turns into a buggy that doesn't really look like a buggy, and just has another little guy who turns into an engine that doesn't even look like an engine.

Somehow, they fucked up every conceivable aspect of it. But it's got ankle tilts, so yay? That'll be 30 dollars plus tip for your deluxe class checklist slop, sir.
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>>11831198
You're really obsessed over toys coming with handguns and acting like you don't have an accessory box full of all the extra ones we've gotten over the years.
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>>11831210
Nah, I'm actually obsessed with overpriced toys that can't even scape together the bare minimum while prices get higher every year, but go off queen. Enjoy your $50 deluxe with no accessories in 2029.
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>>11831065
I'm too lazy to go back a few threads to see if those people who were saying it was too small by trying to guess its size were right or wrong
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>>11831215
It has the same amount of accessories as the toy is retooled from.
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>>11831223
>retooled
you're right, it's a retool, not even a new mold, and they couldn't even be arsed to toss in 3 cents more worth of plastic so the poor guy could have a gun like his G1 version did over 30 years ago. It's even more pathetic than I thought.
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>>11831236
Oh, you're a bong, no wonder you're being a retard and shitting all over the place.
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>>11831238
>you're a bong
Nah, I just like the word "arsed". If I were a bong, I would have said "mould" instead of "mold". But I can tell you're American by the way you thanklessly defend multi-billion dollar corporations.
>also, ad hominem
I accept your concession.
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>>11831236
Is it even a retool? I think it just has a new head. I'd just call that a repaint.
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>>11831143
sorry, not in the budget.
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>>11831167
>>11831159
Not that I'm defending Hasbro, but in G1, the alt modes were good but the robots modes tended to take the hit.
Generations seems to take an opposite approach prioritizing an articulate robot mode over the vehicle.
REALLY, they should be doing both well, but they just refuse to put the money in any more.
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>>11831249
Youre just gonna be told they should both be good, entirely ignoring your point
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>>11831257
That was literally his point. See:
>>11831249
>REALLY, they should be doing both well, but they just refuse to put the money in any more.
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>>11831249
>Generations seems to take an opposite approach prioritizing an articulate robot mode over the vehicle.
Well, this is exactly what I've been ranting about for years. It's the core issue behind everything. If people want to prioritize the robot mode, they should just buy shit that doesn't transform. I'm not interested in Transformers that treat the actual act of transforming as an afterthought. It's the whole fucking appeal of the toy concept. Checklist fags should be gassed.

>REALLY, they should be doing both well, but they just refuse to put the money in any more.
I don't even think it's about the money. I think the design philosophy has just shifted to most bots being g1 cartoon-inspired, which creates issues because their robot modes were often very incongruent with their alt modes. They could just shift their priorities a little bit and make a bot that's still 70-80% accurate, but more balanced and better-looking overall. I don't even think it would require more money or effort because so many of these new toys have their engineering budget spent in weird/stupid ways all in the name of getting a more cartoon-accurate silhouette. It would just require better direction. Instead they're making lazy modern toys based on lazy 40 year old character model sheets, all in the name of nostalgia-baiting.

>>11831257
He literally said both should be good himself at the end of his post. Fix your attention span/reading comprehension, zoomer, or go back to tiktok.
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>>11831257
>Youre just gonna be told they should both be good, entirely ignoring your point
Except that WAS his point. And if it weren't, he'd be wrong. It's been 40 years. The engineering behind transforming robot toys has improved, somewhat.
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>>11831262
>Checklist fags should be gassed.
what is your problem with people wanting certain characters?
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>>11831278
>what is your problem with people wanting certain characters?
because this is /toy/, not /characters/.
>implying checklistfags even actually want those characters and aren't just mindlessly consuming for the sake of completionism
kek. I've said it half-a-dozen times already, but who even gives a fuck about Joyride or Sureshot as characters? Their appeal is being cool-looking off-road buggy bots with fun gimmicks, and the new versions fail on all counts. The fucking targetmaster isn't even any better, just two pieces of plastic jointed together. Lmao, man. Lmao. These are objectively bad toys.
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>>11831249
>in G1, the alt modes were good but the robots modes tended to take the hit.
Which is fine. Here's the thing: these guys are alien robots. They don't have to look human, and don't have to have Marvel Superhero proportions - they can be weird and gangly, or bizarrely disproportionate, because they're not humans and never were. The alt modes, though? Those need to look believable, especially if they're supposed to be Earth vehicles; in a toy line where the primary gimmick is "robots in disguise", the 'disguise' part should absolutely take priority and look convincing.
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Just got this guy and I wasn't really paying attention to him at all cause his feet looked bad but I'm pleasantly surprised by his shoulders having this extra joint to turn the wheel around and the lever on the back of his head to allow him to look up
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>>11831294
>They don't have to look human, and don't have to have Marvel Superhero proportions
this. It's a shame the G1 media standardized every bot having the exact same generic "hero" proportions. One thing I'll definitely give Michael Bay credit for was embracing different body types for the sake of variety, even if it gave us wonky shit like Doritoscream.
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>>11831294
>>11831301
Completely agree, and it's why I find myself at odds when people say a Transformers arms are too long or the heads too big cause if you're comparing it to a human it feels like you're missing the point of what they are
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>>11831299
>I'm pleasantly surprised by his shoulders having this extra joint to turn the wheel around
See, this is the kind of shit I'm talking about. Wasted engineering just for a superficial detail to make it look more like sunbowslop, which only looks that way in the first place to make things easier for korean sweatshop animators. The obsession with making wheels magically disappear on robot modes was fucking retarded. I like seeing car parts on my transforming car robots, actually. It's kind of a big part of the appeal.
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>>11831299
See, this is the kind of shit I'm talking about. Thoughtful engineering just for a clever detail to make it look more like the best Transformers cartoon, which only looks that way in the first place to make things ugly toys into characters people care about. The choice with making wheels magically disappear on robot modes was fucking genius it really showed these guys transformed. I like seeing car parts on my transforming car robots transform, actually. It's kind of a big part of the appeal.
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>>11831306
I dunno, I dont give a shit about Windcharger but I think thats fine.
I kinda wouldn't mind it being taken out just to give him a drop down foot peg to make him more stable but that area has so many moving parts it might make it less stable, I'm not sure how to tell
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>>11831311
I dont think the feet are that bad actually
It'd be better if they had more ground cover in the back but he's more stable than you'd think
I mean, they do look pretty hollow but we're not talking about that, I think
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>>11831262
add repaint fags too. the number of daffy faggots clamoring for glyph or a nemesis repaint drive me insane.
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>>11831302
>I find myself at odds when people say a Transformers arms are too long or the heads too big cause if you're comparing it to a human it feels like you're missing the point
This is why missing link is goat. ML Convoy has an awesome alt mode, a striking robot mode, an effective, simple transformation, and pretty much all the articulation you need. It's so much more fun as a complete package this way. But that's because it's based on an ancient toy that was actually designed as a toy first, and toys make better toys than characters. Imagine that.
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>>11831294
No, I mean they took the hit in that they were unposable pricks. They don't have to all be heroically proportioned but some robots were pretty bad
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>>11831313
Why are the back of his shins so loaded with joints and kibble? These figures look and feel so over-engineered. I had the same issue with Seaspray, he's got all these joints and pins in his feet just to collapse them another 2cm, and I feel like that budget could have been better spent elsewhere, like his unfinished looking alt-mode with an exposed head in the back.
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>>11831322
It seems like a lot of your questions would be answered if you looked at what Windcharger turns into
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>>11831324
But then he wouldn't be able to bitch about shit.
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>>11831291
Yes, I'm implying that collectors ACTUALLY like collecting certain characters or lineups of characters they're familiar with.
It doesn't mean they want shitty toys.

and since I keep seeing this argument, I'm also going to imply that other people are so against it because...

A. seeing existing characters reminds them they're on an "old person's" franchise instead of something brand new they can call their own.

B. labor under the delusion that if EVERYONE just stopped buying ALL these current toys Hasbro will JUST HAVE to pour more money into making all the awesome toys of new characters instead of just saying TF doesn't make money and cancelling the damn thing.

>because this is /toy/, not /characters/.
what kind of a retarded statement is this. All the figures are of SOME character. Are you seriously dictating there's only one reason anyone should buy a action figure and it's not because they might actually like the character it represents.
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>>11831321
this is a 3-inch-tall robot toy from 35+ years ago that cost like $4.99. This is about what I'd expect for a robot mode. The appeal wasn't having an articulated, human-shaped robot figure. The appeal was having a robot that fucking transformed into a car. Also that's literally a throttlebot with a bonus zoom-zoom gimmick and it's rad.

>>11831324
A car? So? G1 Windcharger turned into the exact same kind of car without having a clusterfuck of kibble and joints on the back of his legs. Pretty much every toy of Windcharger manages the same thing, actually. The PotP version has some kibble on his legs, but that's actually in the name of facilitating a functional driver's seat for titan masters, which is a cool thing if you actually play with toys.

>>11831328
>All the figures are of SOME character
Not true. In fact, that's literally the opposite of the entire genesis of the transformers franchise. They were toys first. Characters second. Lmao, soak your head.
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>>11831330
God you're autistic
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>>11831330
>They were toys first. Characters second. Lmao, soak your head.
Pretty sure the toys were sold as characters with names and profiles, you dumb shit. Yes. I quite certain.
Not to mention comics and cartoons and the whole thing to further flesh them out. They were NOT Transforming figure # 1, Transforming Figure #2
soak your head you asshole
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>>11831330
You dont have to waste your time talking to people who dont agree with you, you can find somewhere else surely where people will like you
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>>11831330
no, Wideload was pretty criticized at the time for his dinky robot mode as were a lot of figures.
And NOBODY is buying a figure that looks like that NOW. You're telling me you would, if he had an awesome transformation? Because, if that's the case i really am wonder what the fuck you want out of the line. Most people want good action figures that turn into good vehicles preferably of character they already like. YOu seem to want some kind of engineering anomaly, the actual figure be damned. Go buy a fucking puzzle if that's what you want.
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>>11831337
I proved you wrong on the whole character thing so you have to massively strawman.
now I'm convinced.
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>>11831337
>You're not enjoying the toys the right way. You have to like them for the same reason I DO.
boy, are you a drag.
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>>11831330
>but that's actually in the name of facilitating a functional driver's seat for titan masters
If I wanted that I'd buy a toy car with a driver, not a Transformer.
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>>11831348
Sounds like kids are enjoying things.
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This is a lot of fucking posts spent to say "Stop liking things I don't like"
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>>11831357
>mad the show didn't look like the toys
>mad the toys had character bios and fiction to get children engaged
>mad old characters get new toys that look like them
>mad shows have lore and deeper plots
Sounds like he's just a Go-Bots fan forever butthurt they died for being ass.
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>>11831348
AGAIN
>You're not enjoying the toys the right way. You have to like them for the same reason I DO.
>you can only enjoy a Transformer if you marvel at the engineering, the way the gears and swivels make it change from one thing to another like a computer would appreciate it. What?! You actually want to be able to pose it? WHAT?! You actually care about the character it represents?
>Next, you'll tell me you actually care about the story in a book instead of marveling at the bookbinding and the pulp the paper was made from! Pffft.
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>>11831361
>>11831348
>>11831365
Holy shit, you sound like such a faggy autist. Go sip your cognac and look at your toys through your monocle.
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>>11831337
I dont have anything to do with this argument, and dont intend on engaging with it but I'd like to ask, would you post a pic of your hand, please?
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>>11831368
you can tell he's butthurt, he's just slides into dumb trollmode.
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>>11831361
>>11831365
>>11831368
Post one (1) toy you own
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>>11831169
This mold is baffling to me in all it forms. I would've actually gotten a cool Skullgrin update immediately but they went and made... whatever this is.
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>>11831411
I don't know what the thinking was on this. It's not as if the Original Skullgrin was a complex design
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>>11830588
I love ER Prowl too and I'm glad I got the set. I think it's the painted widow trims that gives it that premium look.
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>>11831065
looks pretty good, even if the shins still have visible see-throughs.
Looking forward to never being able to afford him
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>>11831242
I too like 'arsed' sometimes.
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>>11831306
I appreciate optional shit like that
the nice thing about beast wars era is so many things were on ball joints that you could position the kibble however it suits you. you can headcanon some parts to be weapons or whatever, swing them out to use, swing them away..
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>>11831302
it's not about looking human. it's about looking cool. there are rules to this stuff, and only some of us can see it, and even fewer can explain it.

if the upper arm is longer than the entire combined lower arm and hand, that looks fucking stupid
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>>11831170
Nta but is there anything else with relaly good alt modes right now?
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>>11831143
Kinda wish it was G2 Jetstorm colors repaint if they're just gonna be lazy about new molds.

Never gonna get G2 Hooligan either.
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This might be a weird question but is there a Shockwave that has a female 5mm plug? I want to give this guy a Shockwave shoulder cannons but I am not familiar with the molds.

>>11830874
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>>11831892
Yes, but he transforms into a 3 pronged claw so not sure how much mileage you can get out of it as a Shoulder cannon.
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Any chance they'll do a G2 Superion? Skipped out on him but I'd absolutely get G2 colors to go with G2 Menasor.
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>SS86 Grimlock's down to his 2021 price for prime day and he's coming soon
Oh I can't wait
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>>11831902
I meant a g1 styled shockwave lol. I forgot how crazy some name reuses were.
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>>11831913
That one's at least historically significant
That name slap re-secured the Shockwave trademark after it had been missing for years
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>>11831887
Do TM Megatron in G1 Grimlock colors.
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>>11831913
Maybe this one if you turn him over
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It sucks the godzilla kit for grimlock has the best head in the toxitron colours. I wanted to get g2 blue or the OG grimlock but you can barely see the details on the face sculpt.
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>>11831992
Which Grimlock's getting the best head?
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>>11831997
Depends on which fembot's giving it to him.
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>>11831992
I was contemplating the blue version since I got a second one when I bought the G2 Dinobots, but the robot mode face is awful.
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>>11831950
Thanks this might be perfect if it fits
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>>11830612
The comics also had Metroplex as merely part of the Autobot city
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>>11831148
>whose designs were moving away from realism anyway
They were moving *back* in 1988. Getaway transforms into a Mazda RX-7 and Nightbeat into a Porsche 959, instead of whatever the hell all the 1987 Autobot cars were, except for Punch who was clearly a Pontiac for some reason
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>>11831321
Y'know it's kind of funny how much people just totally gloss over the Throttlebots when they have no trouble shitting on the Battlechargers who at least have a cool action feature to justify their lack of real arms.
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anyone who owns a lottery figure is so lucky look at all this gold
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>>11832105
the best part of gold cheetor is that he's also gold tigatron
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>>11830588
Vehicle modes used to look way better than that 15 years ago
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>>11831330
This guy is objectively correct I don't even know what the issue is. The 84-85 molds weren't even original to transformers to begin with. So much of this fanbase either has no standards, twisted priorities, blind loyalty to hasbro or all of the above. This is why I sincerely believe that most of this fanbase don't even realize that there was actually anything between 1987 and 2007 because they don't understand anything about the design philosophy that defined it. Arguably the reason why people like what Takara (Overgear, Legends, Missing Link) is doing is because it feels like a return to form

>>11831210
Because until 2020 it used to be the standard for literally any figure deluxe or above. This reminds me of the shit with ER Cliffjumper where they half assed the transformation, made him the size of a Scout but gave him a big gun and a lot of paint to justify the markup and we don't even get that now because people just accepted it.
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>>11832038
You know you don't have to use the robot mode face if you don't want to, right? You can just keep him with Grimlock's face and use the rest of the kit.
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>>11832171
>Arguably the reason why people like what Takara (Overgear, Legends, Missing Link) is doing is because it feels like a return to form
I wouldn't go that far, pricing being what it is.
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>>11832177
I'm talking about design philosophy. Plus, the pricing is mostly import costs if you're based in Asia its much cheaper.
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>>11832174
It's shit as well. Just a black square.
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>>11832171
I still see people think that armada wasnt a success
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>>11832171
Overgear looks amazing but Im not normally a tacticool guy so I really hope we get repaints into more classic bright colors later on. It doesnt even have to be 100% g1 either
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>>11832183
I don't mind tacticool but it would help if Overgear's tacticool sensibility made any sense. For the most part it's a weird, inept jumble.
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>>11832191
>Ironhide is more or less a pmc, using civilian car with heavy weaponry like in Syrian war
>Blackout is totally not UN/NATO helicopter
>Optimus wears tactical vest and looks like Prigozhin in it
Anon...
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>>11832183
A red version of optimus is pretty much guaranteed to happen if Overgear succeeds but we probably won't know until Q4 of next year.

>>11832191
>inept jumble
what do you mean
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These are out

Voy price for a deluxe

Thank God I only getting this guy

>There are impurity in the white paint on the top of the car

I guess this is typical of Hot wheels
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>>11832208
>Voy price for a deluxe
New to Collab? It's always like this
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>>11831890
really pops in these colours.
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>>11832195
>what do you mean
The weapons and decos, mostly. I'm thinking primarily of Optimus, though. Blackout is pretty good. Ironhide is meh. Overall it feels like a missed opportunity and a touch lazy. Not bad, but I'm not going to throw $100 at any of them either.
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Hasbro hasnt cancelled my order but randomly refunded the money for my Nemesis Prime.... Am I fucked? Did these retards actually sell one too many? Wish they wouldve cancelled it much sooner, couldve bought one on ebay for $100, now all the retard scalpers have it up for almost $200. Fucking gay.
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>>11832250
Which nemesis?
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>>11832223
like what do you mean though.
are you saying the weapons and decos dont match the supposed character and setting? but how is it inept then if the accessories all look well made and not cheap?
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>>11832252
The armada one. It's sold out now, so I have to wonder if maybe they just cant fulfill my order and are taking their sweet time canceling it
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>>11832258
I had even contacted them about it, and they said it was preparing to get shipped, but then why refund me randomly?
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>>11832256
It doesn't look very considered. Optimus looks like he's about to invade Afghanistan, but half of him is fucking blue and there's a goofy-ass flame on the hood. The weapons being upscaled human weapons also makes everything feel a little less grounded, especially the knives. It's less like tacticool Transformers and more like Transformers LARPing as tacticool humans. Cool truck mode otherwise, though. Same for Ironhide, which looks solid in general.

Blackout mostly avoids all this, but he also looks like something Hasbro could have produced from 2008-2011 -- and I mean that in a good way.
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>>11832264
>The weapons being upscaled human weapons also makes everything feel a little less grounded
I guess I can see that, like when you see an eva holding a giant combat knife stored in the pauldrons for some reason
Though I feel like the minimalistic flames are just cute decos plausibly put on by some guy in the military.
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>>11832100
I thought that was sometimes the case for the cartoon as well
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>>11832208
Why did you pay $1299 for that?
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>>11832359
It was on sale for $1039, retard
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Have in the mail coming:
SS86 Galvatron and Scourge

In my POL at BBTS:
Legacy Kickback and SS86 Shockwave

Waiting for PO:
SS86 Kranix and Cyclonus
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>>11832180
That's just his face, bro - every version of Grimlock ever has had the same head shape with some minor variations. Are you just unfamiliar with the character?
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>>11832439
No I am you fucking retard. The Pic you posted has grey highlights. The toys are just black squares. I've been a G1 transformers fan from before you were born.
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When is hasbro gonna do this color? I need this
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>>11832496
This has got walmart capsule line written all over it
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>>11830402
>>11830576
While I sympathize, you can't say it wasn't a little earned at the time. I love stuff from the 90s too; but I remember being only 7 when I first went online in the late-2000s, and 90s kids were utterly miserable because they'd shit on everything you ever liked just because it wasn't *exactly* like what they grew up with. Then they'd turn around and call the 90s Sonic cartoon/comic peak maturity or some shit.
They were horrifically spiteful teens/young adults themselves gripped by arrested development, and they deserved calling out for it at the time. But the optimist in me would like to think we've culturally moved past where we were 20 years ago; unironically no better time to try and reclaim the "90s kid" name, I think.
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>>11832449
>The Pic you posted has grey highlights.
Yes, that's called "lighting". It also has nothing to do with the shape of the head, which is what you were bitching about, not the colors.
>I've been a G1 transformers fan from before you were born
Unlikely. I'm in my 40's, kiddo.
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>>11832537
Oof. She's retarded.
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>>11832174
If I'm buying a full Godzilla upgrade kit for 65 bucks, I expect to use all of it. I actually like the heads on all the other variants, it's just the blue G2 head that sucks.
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>>11832274
I like what I've seen of Overgear, but I really wish they went for a light sand color for the truck, mustard yellow wasn't a good idea.
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>>11832550
That's what color they are. At least where I'm at.
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>>11832555
I saw them darker in Puerto Rico, but that might be wear and grime.
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>>11832560
Deathsaurus really is Hydrogen Bomb tier while the rest is literal Coughing Baby
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When did the SS86 Kranix/Shockwave wave release? In May? They're JUST hitting my Target now.
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>>11832536
I had the exact same experience as a 90s kid having to deal with TRUKK NOT MUNKEY genwunners.
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>>11832536
That's not the 2000s internet experience I had, and I got around
Everyone was talking about how great the 90s and 2000s stuff was, we were so optimistic. We thought things were just gonna keep getting better and better. We hadn't even realized yet how bad Simpsons had gotten, because they frog-boiled us.
maybe you weren't as into anime? the anime crowd definitely celebrated the present and past together, since most of us had no fucking idea when shows came out. we didnt know if what we were watching was new or decades old.
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>>11832264
>Afghanistan

*Carbombya

https://transformers.fandom.com/wiki/Socialist_Democratic_Federated_Republic_of_Carbombya
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>>11832633
My experience online in the 2000s was going from Gaiaonline to 4chan in 2006. I never did gb2gaia ans I never left.
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>>11832274
I was thinking G1 or Laser Prime colors look the best but now I want to see this in Hero Prime colors cause he has a truck bed full of weapons.
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>>11832547
> If I'm buying a full Godzilla upgrade kit for 65 bucks, I expect to use all of it.
Well, that's really on you, isn't it? You saw the product shots. You know exactly what you'd be getting, and you have the choice to pick and choose what parts you want. The question is how badly you want the rest of the kit.
>it's just the blue G2 head that sucks.
It's the exact same head that's on all the other variants (except for the actual Godzilla one, which is using a head originally intended for Sludge), just with the visor painted red instead of blue.
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>>11832536
>They were horrifically spiteful teens/young adults themselves gripped by arrested development, and they deserved calling out for it at the time.
That's every teenager of every generation ever. If anything, modern teens are even worse - they grew up on the Internet and treat people in person the same way they act online, having no concept of public decorum. I've seen kids walk up to complete strangers on the street and try to "rage bait" and "troll" them for their own amusement because that's what they do when they're playing on their phones all day.
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>>11832536
The optimist in you is a myopic and doesn't recognize common patterns of intergenerational tension. If things have changed it's only because zoomers have grown up in a variegated stew of the Internet and their own cold ejaculate, but I still think the 2000s/2010s were each distinct enough that the same pattern will hold. Every generation believes they are different.
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Spawn of Unicron Tarantulas

Hire me 90s Botcon
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>>11832660
Are you dense? I'm blatantly talking about the head robot mode hesd on the kit for the blue G2 Grimlock, it if wasn't fucking obvious. If you stopped sniffing your own farts, maybe you could post like a human being, instead of a swarmy asshole.
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>>11832687
>If you stopped sniffing your own farts, maybe you could post like a human being, instead of a swarmy asshole.
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>>11832690
Its spelt irony you fucking retard.
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>more Tonka collabs coming

https://news.tfw2005.com/2026/06/27/tonka-x-transformers-collabs-coming-567169

Sure. Just don't make them G1 reissues again this time.
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>>11832672
all of what you're saying is true and none of what you're saying is accurate
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>>11832692
it's spelled 'spelled'
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>>11832709
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>>11832703
Please be an Armada Devastator pretool

Copium.jpg
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>>11832721
I'm aware
But of those two groups, which one is better?

besides, spelt is a grain.
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>>11832703
The listings are 15 pounds. What Transformers size class is normally 15 pounds in britland?
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G2 grimmy just came in from Amazon and it looks a lot better in person. Even his black cube head.
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>>11832703
>inb4 it's just G2 SS Devy
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>>11832764
I honestly thought wheelie would have articulated knees. How could I be so naive?
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>>11832692
That's literally the joke, idiot. Have you never seen the Simpsons before?
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>>11832782
We did warn you about him. Aside from the one pose he's locked in, you really can't do much with Wheelie. They really shouldn't have wasted the plastic to make him, especially since he came out right at the same time as Core Wheelie.
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>>11832785
How are the other 4 g2 dinos? Worth 220?
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>>11832785
He can't even stand on his own. It rides Grimlock or nothing. It's such a worthless accessory
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>>11832785
>>11832795
>>11832782
You kinda gotta make your own fun
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>>11832790
If you liked their regular colored versions, they're fine. They didn't pack a "G2 Daniel" in with Slag/Slug this time, but they didn't give him anything to replace him, either. Swoop comes with G2 Grimlock's missing sword (which is actually a different color from the sword that came with regular Swoop), and they gave him the neat "Sunglasses" head, which is cool. Not much to note with Sludge and Snarl - they're basically unchanged from their previous releases other than their colors.
I will say they look great as a group - they're a veritable rainbow of neon colors, and definitely catch the eye.
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>>11832850
Skittlebots
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>>11832826
Pretty good, whats the Optimus name?
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>>11832874
It's the Furai IDW Optimus model kit
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Color and price reveal soon...I hope?
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>>11832960
unless it comes with a job, I don't see that happening
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I got a thing today
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>>11833007
eyyy very nice
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Honestly I was going to skip Onslaught
But this picture may have convinced me otherwise
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>>11833045
Thaaat is a fun robot mode. Wish we got more shit like this outside of that one TMNT gundam thing
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I finally got blokees Long Haul yesterday
6/6 after a year
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>>11833045
He has less leg mass than Superion so why the fuck cant he have his gun.
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>>11832633
In fairness, most of the time I felt exactly what you describe of people being pretty optimistic too, but that was typically when I was around communities/users that were probably also kids my age lol. You're right, I wasn't into anime yet; that wouldn't happen until I was in middle school, so I was primarily seeing american cartoon and toy fandoms... might've had a lot to do with it lol.
>>11832632
>>11832672
Oh yeah, it is a pretty universal truth, not arguing that at all (lord knows I've been a shitter too in the past). Still, there's a feeling I can't quite shake of nerd rage being a lot stronger during that time in some ways; maybe it's just because of the internet, basically making teens like this able to gather together and also be exposed upon others en masse in such a way for the first time, so the whole thing felt more new and we're collectively just better at dealing with it nowadays? But then I remember stuff like the SW prequel actors getting harrassed as horribly as they did, and I'm still not sure I've seen any nerds/fandoms get as bad as that in the years since.
Could be a mix of both, ultimately: teen angst as per usual, and some sorta combo of cultural factors at the time, that just brought out the worst in an unfortunate few.
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>>11833007
How did Optimus come out of the box? No cracks?
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>Voyager class: $42
I really want to finally upgrade from Classics seekers to the new SS guys but fuck me, this is too much to stomach. I can't justify this hobby anymore, maybe it's just time to stop. :(
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>>11833201
Then just get your favorite one. Also so far it’s just the main three.
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>>11833217
The only complete seeker trio I've ever had are the FoC ones, Classics Skywarp eluded me forever and I've never finished that set. I've got all the Classic coneheads and don't give a shit about "rainmakers" so all I really want is the original 3. $130+ for three guys is just too much though, I don't want to do this anymore if this is just how it's going to be forever now.
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>>11833226
Well it’s only going to go up. I would not be surprised in the slightest if we get $50 Voyagers in a few years. That’s why I’m sort of buying some stuff now before it goes any higher.
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>>11833232
>I would not be surprised in the slightest if we get $50 Voyagers in a few years
Disgusting, I refuse to be milked any further.
I have enough transformers, and Hasbro has enough of my money for one lifetime.
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>>11833045
>those tiny little hinges are his ankles

Jesus christ
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>>11833019
I like them
>>11833143
I got them used. Optimus has a big Crack, but i have a second fixed copy the guy got from hasbro.
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Best Commander Class TF so far?

I don’t have one in that size yet. A Sixshot in that class would break me.
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>>11833329
Jetfire in my opinion
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>>11833329
Jetfire and armada optimus, or magmatron if you're into beast wars.
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I miss these gimmicks. G2 was so good.
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>>11833353
what about Sky Lynx?
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>>11832784
You have brits and 3rd world ESL in here
You're expecting too much
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>>11833007
I'm sorry

>>11833143
There is no "no cracks"
The issue is on %100 of them
It's a genuine hard mold issue present in every single one because the design itself
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>>11833391
No need, I love this thing.
The replacement is holding up perfectly fine. Transformed multiple times.
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>>11833329
Armada Prime and Magmatron.
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>>11833329
I second >>11833334, >>11833353, and >>11833401, but will add Sky Lynx to the list. He's magnificent.
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Man I wish this head was slightly bigger, it's great aside from that. Same goes for the autobot head.
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>>11833382
>>11833426
Sky Lynx doesn't come up often when people talk about the Commanders. I don't have him, but he looks great.
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>>11833329
Yea basically
I've come around on SS86 Prime, Armada Prime and the Onslaught unironically is looking like the best of the 3 Framesloppers
If only for being able to Exo Suit Gorilla Arm his Trailer
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>>11833243
I just buy things on clearance.
I only just got sky-byte and razorclaw the other month.
>>11833328
you mean he sent you both the damaged and the fixed one?
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>>11833360
light-em-ups are fun.
Sound always sucks, speakers are tiny. Spring-loaded gimmicks are usually crap. but who doesn't enjoy a good light? and LEDs are SO much cheaper now than the tiny lightbulbs they had to use back in the day, so there's zero reason not to
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>>11833443
>Sky Lynx doesn't come up often when people talk about the Commanders
It really is a shame; I'm guessing it's because he's not your typical character, but that's part of what I love about him, and ties back to my earlier comment about how these guys are alien robots and don't have to look human (and made doubly-awesome by the fact that, despite being beastly looking, he's one of the good guys - and a chatty one at that). It's just funny how people tend to forget that the Autobots have a huge-ass, sassy, literal DRAGON on their team whose favorite hobby is bullying the Predacons.
In regards to his toy, he's really neat - in addition to his usual Lynx, Wyvern (sorry, "Dino-Bird") Dragon and Shuttle (with detachable crawler) modes, they added a base mode to him which is fun. I have mine currently connected to my Botropolis set (which is painted specifically to match him and completes his base mode), though I keep meaning to climb up and pull him down from the display case he's in. Can't show pics, ax I'm currently away from my computer, but I've posted him here in the past.
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>>11833473
Yeah, got two of the core primes.
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Ultra Magnus is well... RID magnus, I dont really plan to keep him in his bot mode, so its nice having a second core prime for the combined mode while having a fully functional Fire Convoy
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>>11833492
huh. well then you have spare parts at least in case something does break. except the part that already did on one.
>>11833501
oh I guess that makes sense. unlike this guy's proportions.
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Every time I see those chest windows, my circuits sizzle. When are we gonna start bustin haslabchops?
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>>11833329
Armada Optimus Prime > Jetfire > Magmatron > Sky Lynx > Optimus Prime > Onslaught > Ultra Magnus > Rodimus Prime > Motormaster > Silverbolt > Hook & Long Haul
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>>11833360
I wonder if there are still loose Electros out there that haven't already broken from GPS.
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>>11833531
Absolutely better than that dog Kingdom Rodimus or SS86 Ultra Magnus
I don't know about Sky Lynx that high either. He just doesn't really appeal to me so never bothered
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>>11833329
I think I have to give it to Sky Lynx, he's certainly the one I've had on display longest

My Jetfire's loose hip make posing a pain, I hate everything to do with Magmatron's sword, and Armada Prime is great but I think Sky Lynx edges him out
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>>11833583
I really wish DNA sold Magmatron's sword on it's own. I wanted to give it to both my Magmatron and 40th Lio Convoy, but it's only included with the Matrix Buster set.
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This is the city mode of the original Fortress Maximus.
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And this is the city mode of the Titans Return Fortress Maximus. How could Hasbro and Takara do this? What a catastrophic loss of aura and functionality. They may as well have not bothered.
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>youtoobers doing reviews of titan grimlock now
>all of them wanking it off
>all admit that it has huge see through gaps, mouth cant close, tail cant move, and other problems
>but still wont shut up about how amazing they think it is for 200USD

Is this some sort of out of season april fools joke?
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>>11833606
>mouth cant close
What the fuck is wrong with hasbro? What's the point of a T-Rex that can't bite?
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>>11833606
isnt it just a slight retool of an existing one? were these problems not present already?
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>>11833617
No, its an all new mold, but ALL the grimlock molds suffer from the same problems.

>big ugly gaps
>mouth not closing, or has "biting action" and stays open when not pushing the button
>tail having no articulation
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>>11833621
The Studio Series Leader Grimlock from wave 1 had a moving jaw.
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>>11833606
I've only seen Thew's video, but he wasn't shy about saying he got his provided by Pulse, or that it's a deeply flawed toy that just scrapes by on aura alone
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>>11833489
>>11833443
The only thing is I wish there was a gap in that base mode where the ramp ends, so that micromasters could actually drive into somewhere instead if driving up to a wall.
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>>11833604
They took their cue from the mistransformed version in the catalogue
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>>11833625
you're still watching thew?
wait, are we talking MOVIE grimlock?
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>>11833633
Except you can literally see the city mode right there. That's a mistransformed version of the battle station mode in front.
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>>11833629
i took that as a cargo hold, so they would drive up, take or leave cargo, then drive back down. like those gold things are either boxes or doors that open... no?
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>>11833639
Studio Series Titan Grimlock, yes
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>>11833644
ohhhh
I actually thought he looked pretty good in ways that the others so far have all sucked. It has a tail, it has a neck.
They just fucked up the legs, obviously because they'd need to use real metal and a bunch of locking support pegs to make them actually transform properly.

it's okay, we have 3P for movie grimlock. wrath all the way.
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>>11833640
yep, they suck
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>>11833641
I mean, in our imagination, they would open. But the toy doesn't have them open. All they would've needed was that bottom box to open so a car could drive in like a little garage.
To be fair, I think the dinobird neck slides down that deep which is why it doesn't open, but I wish there was some way to work around it.
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>>11833443
Still waiting, Hasbro
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>>11833652
I can see why you might want that, I just don't think space shuttles typically have garages midway down them.
Are we supposed to pretend in this mode that it's not a shuttle anymore, it's a city tower or whatever?
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>>11833382
I'm not gonna lie, always forget Sky-lynx because I don't plan on getting him. He looks great, I just wish he had an OSKO for my greedy size fag desires.
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>>11833329
I've got a couple of them now. Easy picks are Magmatron and Armada Optimus for certain. Motormaster and Ultra Magnus are interesting in an engineering perspective (motormaster's torso mode is really cool. Everything swings and pegs together very well.) Jetfire has great build quality, but is not very interesting to handle. Up to you, but I'd say dollars to donuts, Magmatron is the best. He even clearanced out around $55-75, so he may be easy to find for a fair price. The rubber sword sucks, but everything comes with a compromise nowadays.
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>>11833659
I think it's still meant to be a shuttle, but there's that ramp that goes to nowhere.
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>>11828986
Do they actually sell car Shockwave or is this a custom?
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>>11833674
that's why I think it's leading up to cargo containers and isn't meant to be driven clean through. but you could be right, I never pay attention to this shit so I have a blind spot for 'backgrounds'
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>>11833657
I want purple silverbolt...
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>>11833678
me too even if I don't relish having to pay for the upgrade kit again
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>>11833681
lol relish is green
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>>11833682
not when it's CHUTNEY!
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>>11833673
I don't even know why he has rubbery parts. Nothing on him is shark enough. Even the wings didn't seem sharp enough to break on impact or shatter.
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>>11833675
That's actual real Alternators Shockblast
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>>11833629
It works better if you think of it as a way for Fuzer and Blast Master from the Botropolis set to get to the spot where they can mount to Sky Lynx's back (assuming you're not mounting them to the giant rocket instead). Like the other anon said, that's also technically the shuttle's loading bay, and each of those gold things are actually modular crates/containers on a real shuttle that can be removed to make room for bigger cargo (like if it's transporting a satellite), so it's less about having a place for Micromasters drive into it as much as it is a way for them to remove or replace those cargo canisters.
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So I got Galvatron yesterday. Are the outward hip movement supposed to be slightly loose? Is it due to mold degradation?
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>>11833676
they don't give any info on what it's supposed to be, though I wouldn't recommend unloading things while standing on the downward sloping ramp.
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>>11833716
anon, this is a blue board
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>>11833736
if anything my thought was 'maybe they roll down there like Canadian beer'
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>>11833743
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>>11833570
86 Magnus destroys but fair enough on Kingdom Rodimus
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>>11833753
Not him, but not adding some extension for the neck or some way for the sides to slim down, really bothered. While Rodimus has so much paint in areas that should be molded plastic, which stood out even more when the 86 Hot Rod did a much better job.
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Perhaps I was too hard on victory. Gaihawk and Liokaizer's debut episodes were GLORIOUS. They mark the first times the Destrons actually won, and hearing Star Saber's theme kick in and STILL watching him lose was like a cherry on top.
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>>11833762
I really wish the Haslab could use the spear/nunchucks like in this episode. You can only make that giant spear by using substitutes from your own collection.
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>>11833763
I think you'd need to use real string/wire to make that work. The pieces would have to plug together and be hollow, so you just bunch up the flexible parts into the tubes.. hm.
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>>11833765
Nah, you can simply do this with Ironwork's gun, or sideswipe tube thing. The other issue with the nunchucks is that they should have included a set of poles that are half the length to use them as intended with both the the smaller figures and liokaiser.
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>>11833762
The best part of Victory
Also their theme is based
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megatron get out of there
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>>11833606
They're coping and brand loyalists saying shit for engagement farming. It's the sad truth
They refuse to acknowledge 3P exists. People can hate but the genuine options are out there and people will continue to see and go for those over Hasbro/Takara, Especially if the prices keep going up
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there was one with an anime statue with her ass out but i can't find it
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>>11833813
this gave me a swell chuckle.
>>11833815
Whoaaaa!! where did you get miniature zoid box props!?!?
>>11833818
This is just a normal shin
>>11833819
when you brought one of your kid's shoes by mistake
>>11833820
oh wow, that IS gappy. are you sure it's not mistransformed?
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>>11833824
found all those on twitter, not sure where the zoid boxes came from, but here's the original post

https://x.com/Sousi33869665/status/2071125744412152234
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>>11833824
That's the Wei Jiang SS OS with improvements
I was robbed of a part on his arm and one Dino Arm being snapped off. It still entirely bodies the new Titan who is basically another semi brick by Hasbro and can't even close it's Dino Mouth
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>>11833830
i was gonna say, it doesn't look like the SS one I remember, but... yeah this is a nice robot mode, but the dino mode, I think SS actually did better.
I wish i could just go down there and explain animal anatomy to them. Sometimes I feel like I should make youtube videos about that, but I know the editing would be ass.
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Im still kinda mad we never got BW Grimlock as a Trex.
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>>11833830
Any difference btwn that and say WJ Transformation Grimlock Oversize Enlarged SS07? Or is it the same thing. Been wanting that guy for a long time and Ebay they seem dirt cheap like 140 after shipping.
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>>11833838
it is a very odd choice that they made him a raptor, instead of making an OC raptor. but I suppose they were thinking "we dont wanna make a good guy and bad guy share a mold, and all the dinosaurs are bad guys.. who's a good dinosaur? uhh.. oh yeah, the dinobots"
maybe the yoshi-spotted raptor idea came first, then they decided it wouldn't sell unless it had a known name
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>>11833301
Yeah, I don't see those hinges lasting very long.
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>>11833838
T-Wrecks might be him, sort of.
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>>11833838
Wasn't T-Wrecks originally supposed to be Grimlock, his bio kinda implies it but then they made the Dinobot repaint Grimlock making it all moot.
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>>11833842
BW had very limited slots for larger figures. They had like 2 per year for Ultra figures, so they probably thought just getting him in there was good enough.
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>>11833851
Twrecks came out during BM, his bio heavily implies that he's Grimlock after the BW's, even bringing up that he's a former attack specialist, Grimlock's role in BW.
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>>11833854
oh right. weren't Ultras like 25 bucks back then? That was a lot of money. I was lucky, my mom decided she'd kill a few birds with one stone, halve my sister's allowance, double mine (I did not correct her math) to show her she had to actually obey (didn't work), then have my dad pay me said allowance because he owed her money for furniture (which he was largely uncomfortable with doing since he couldn't observe whether I did a good job with chores)
Got so many beast wars guys.. ahh..
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>>11833842
There were no Ultra redecoes in the line(securing two $20 spots for a then-failing toyline after G2 was probably hard as is. Optimal Optimus only happened because Hasbro was pleased with the sales and increased the budget to allow a $30 release that year)
The Dinobot's head was somewhat similar to G1 Grimlock, eyes instead of visor aside, and even the transformation takes some things like the legs into arms transformation. I think it was close enough and Grimlock was probably a solid seller that they wanted to keep the character in circulation.
Also keep in mind at the time Hasbro wasn't super attached to alt-modes as they'd be later on. This was right after G2 where they were ok with Frenzy and Soundwave both being cars of the same size, all with different decoes from G1.
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>>11833867
ahh, well-said. thank you.

it's funny, as a guy that didnt see G1, I was surprised at how many of the names came straight from there, when they feel like beast guy names. scorponok, prowl, ironhide, silverbolt (to a lesser extent)...
I wonder, if Primal wasn't gonna be a bat at first, would they have gone with 'Optimus Primate' ?
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>>11833878
Well Scorponok was a beast guy initially too. And if you think about it,a lot of vehicles are basically meant and named to "feel" animal related. We know and appreciate how animals move and seek to imitate them, even if our vehicles have come to move faster and function better than an animal can. A cop car "prowls" like a big cat on the hunt, because we appreciate a big cat's ability to track it's prey down. Steel hides on vehicles remind us of strong animals with hard skin who can charge with little worry about smaller creatures, like elephants and rhinos. Bumblebee is a zippy little car that's already named after a bug. Hound is reliable and friendly to humans and able to go on pursuits on any terrain. We relate cars to things we know and animals are a big one.
Also remember one weird thing about copyright is literal animal names don't work unless altered. So Tarantula, no, Tarantulas with that "s" is now OK.
So Optimus Primate is unlikely, But Optimus Primator or something might've been a thing. Or hey, maybe Optimus Primate might've worked thanks to Optimus being before it. copyright is screwy.
But Primal works well for beasts as a whole
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found it
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>>11833878
I thought I read somewhere that it was going to be Black Jack but when I looked it up that was just Italy's name for him.

>>11833878
Optimus was going to be a bird or bat and gorilla triple changer at first. (There's actual art of the bird one but bat would make sense because of the bat toy.) also the mcdonalds toy Manta Ray was going to be Optimus Primal, the cat was Prowl and Under 3 looks like Optimus. The bug had a Megatron head and I think there were unused designs. Also later on in the shows season 1 they were going to make Inferno (which is another awesome G1 name for a fire ant) an upgrade to Megatron.

Behind the scenes beast wars shit was crazy.
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>>11833897
I forgot to add. I think the idea was G1 like characters would just have multiple toys with multiple beast modes. This was Kenner and theh would make hundreds of Batman variants for him so maybe that was the idea at one point.
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>>11833897
Wait I found some. Just google mcdonalds beast wars concept art I cant find the rest
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Holy shit I found characters I never even knew existed before. I guess they were cancelled so they technically didnt.
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Ancient early 2000s websites full of test shots

https://tformers.com/beast-wars-concept-designs-are-more-than-meets-g2/39741/news.html
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>we almost got a gi joe transformer in the 80s
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>>11833840
Not quite sure but I know there's 2 that are technically the WJ? And one looks like it's just slightly different paint
And there's a Black Mamba? That's I THINK slightly bigger
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>we could of had a Rampagecopter
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>>11833918
>swastika blades
Based
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>>11833727
he looks lopsided in the box.
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>>11833909
who wants to do a digibash of the Legacy Armada Optimus in these colours?
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For those who actually saw Wild King, did Lavamuleta actually show up in the main series before Wild King W came out, or he just didn't appear and is just added in as a bonus for the toy version of Shadow Megatron? I remember back in the Nemesis Prime episode that a copy of Frost Saber showed up like in the toy, but the whole sequence is just part of a dream anyway. It wouldn't actually make sense if two of the Seven Spears allied up with World Dragnus before Rexblade reawakened, after all, let alone noble ones (Elekivise, I can beg to differ based on his characterization).
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Anyone see this?
Just a few TF colour schemes
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>>11833936
The final solution of VTOL flight
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>>11834019
The references were obvious in Gridman, but I'm not seeing them this time.
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>>11833960
That’s how it was packaged.
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>>11834036
Big guy definitely got some Grimlock energy
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>>11833070
at this point it is the collector's responsibility to provide their own toys with guns. You are obligated to have a bag/drawer full of random guns, and if you do not, that is YOUR fault. You are not allowed to criticize the multi-billion dollar corporation for being chintzy.
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>>11834036
Guy in back Longarm
Left is SG Magnus
Wheeljack on the boy in front
Megatron on the girl on right
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>>11833897
>Optimus was going to be a bird or bat and gorilla triple changer at first. (There's actual art of the bird one but bat would make sense because of the bat toy.)
The quadruple changer wasn't necessarily a toy, it was going to be for the show to advertise both modes, but Mainframe showed it didn't work logistically with the budget and it wss dropped. The bird triplechanger was a concept for the second season that was nixed in favor of transmetals and fuzors
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>>11832703
Nevermind, it's just baby toys.
https://news.tfw2005.com/2026/06/29/tonka-x-transformers-collaboration-first-look-567241
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>>11834099

Bleh. I save some money at least.
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>>11834099
Post the picture ya dingus
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>>11834107
A Megatron that turned into a backhoe would be interesting, at least. If it were an actual transformer. The red/silver looks good.
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>>11834107
Constructicon origins Megs
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Welp hasbro finally confirmed with me what I was worried about. They in fact did sell one too many armada nemesis prime and that's why they havent shipped my order these past 3 weeks. Ridiculous.

They claim they're trying to aquire stock for it but like... that's probably not gonna happen given how it was a limited item. Now I gotta pay some faggot retards scalper prices on ebay, yay. Wish I knew about this dude sooner.
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>>11834154
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>>11834107
>Optimus is the wrong colors, in two different sizes
hmn
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>>11834037
Repackaged. Your boy was very clearly returned and resold, which also explains his loose hips and the signs of wear already on the box.
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>>11834176
It's not in the wrong colors because it's not intended to be Optimus Prime in vehicle mode. It is a non-transforming Tonka truck designed to look like Optimus Prime, the character, thus the truck cab is blue and silver to evoke his helmet/faceplate.
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>>11834048
The one on the left looks way more like Thundercracker than evil Magnus
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>>11834048
>Guy in back Longarm
Looks more like SG Blaster to me.
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>>11834185
No. Everything was already tied and had the baggie unopened..
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>>11834248
You're aware of how easy it is to do that, right? Especially if you keep a supply of your own little baggies on-hand - I've done it several times with reselling shit on eBay, and people have been none the wiser.
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>>11833885
indeed, trademark has definitely shaped these
you can almost hear Cheetor when he's like "I'm a Cheetah! no.. (trademark appears) I'm CheeTOR!"
and then throughout the rest of that episode he keeps flopping between cheetor and cheeter. like people who say 'Lex Luther' like he was nailing 99 theses to the fortress of solitude.
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>>11834077
honestly it'd be easy on the budget, it's just logistically stupid
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>>11834107
Themore I look at this, the more conceptually bizarre this feels.
Tonka is known for realism, TFs generally don't have anthropomorphized heads in at-mode except specific characters like Vehicons or movie/Prime Megatron. And Bee and Optimus especially have never had that feature.
I just realized they don't transform so I get that, but even then I don't see what's Tonka about these besides just being construction vehicles.m
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>>11834359
Well the budget is less figuring out how to make one robot transform to another(I imagine it would be like Reboot, just instantly phasing into another), and more that Hasbro only budgeted for $X robots and two mode modes would require $X more dollars.
Same reason mutant heads/armored masks got nixed.
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>>11834361
prolly using AI to design the shits now
>>11834364
Yeah I suppose, but it would be like adding half a character. I'm sure working in a jetpack took exactly as much work (though it helps that the toy does kinda have room for those in back, sorta)
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>>11834364
Pretty much. Why waste money on an additional bat model when that money can go towards a new figure.
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>>11834265

PAPER baggies. The kind that tear easily. Seriously now you just gaslighting me..
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>>11834375
you don't know how to unwrap it without tearing? I do it all the time for gift packaging
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>>11834384
with tape on it? not that guy but
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>>11834412
Hair dryers are great for loosening tape - makes the glue goopy enough that you can peel it off without damaging the paper.
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>>11834444
uhhh
I guess, but. that's kinda farfetched. or because of your quadquads, fourfetched.
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It took much longer than I expected, but I finally got a second 86 Prime Trailer (with roller and repair drone) for 20. For all the complaints I heard about the trailer, no one wanted to sell theirs under 40.
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Anyone have experience painting visors with spray cans? For some reason, the visor on every single G2 AOTP Grimlock has the same problem, the paint is too thin and not applied properly.
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>>11834456
People complain about the trailer? It's basically perfect
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>>11834459
you mean his eyes, right
sounds like you want a stencil. mask it off.
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>>11834233
The only other one I was contemplating was Rotorstorm
He’s the wrong blue for TC and the red taking over his face is what makes me think it’s delta Magnus first
>>11834237
I don’t see any similarities except the turquoise
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>>11834474
There were comments both here and in other sites complaining that it drove up the price of Optimus from Leader to Commander and would have preferred if he didn't come with it. It's not really the first time this has happened either, there were complaints when MP-10 was revealed, MP Optimus 3.0 and ER Optimus.
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>>11834486
all these years later, hasbro's insistence on making the most expensive toy the leader, as if kids wouldn't already want him just for being the biggest..
they did the same thing in Beast Wars and, while it fit for Megatron... not so much Primal. I'm glad they've largely abandoned that, the leader's usually big but not the biggest.
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>>11834490
The original BW waves were designed before the cartoon. Primal was a giant gorilla fighting a T-Rex, King Kong style.
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btw GOOD NEWS everyone, Garry Chalk beat cancer.
>>11834493
ehhh it was clearly done simultaneously
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>>11834495
That news was 2 days ago.
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>>11834509
it's not okay to be current on the news, anon. give it a sec. It's like pico de gallo, you gotta let the flavors mingle.
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>>11834509
That's news from, like, February
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>>11834516
if that were true, it would have come up at least once in the discussion over the past 13 days
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>>11834519
NTA, bug I do remember it being discussed...way back in February, like that other anon said. It's old news, we've moved on. Glad you're somewhat catching up on current events, though - let us know when you start hearing about people getting their Liokaisers in-hand, or when they announce who the next Titan is going to be.
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>>11834587
very strange then. 100% of the discussion on /co/ in her not-a-sticky sticky shiva was about how she'd been doing drugs and whatnot. Not a single AID was mentioned.
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>>11833964
Some fucking asshole just popped up on my algorithm charging 20 dollars for a digibash.
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>>11834495
>ehhh it was clearly done simultaneously
No, the first toy bios and setting have nothing to do with the show. Mainframe took the story and characters in a different direction of what Kenner intended and it wasn't until the Transmetals that the toys actually reflected the show setting.
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>>11834608
Am I having a stroke who and what the fuck the you talking about?
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>>11834617
When Daveigh Chase died, recently. The discussion of her did not mention AIDS once. it was all about drugs and her overall lifestyle
in retrospect, AIDS is not a huge surprise. but just saying, it's odd to me nobody brought it up, and that we're only just now getting confirmation of the cause.
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>>11834615
>Mainframe took the story and characters in a different direction of what Kenner intended and it wasn't until the Transmetals that the toys actually reflected the show setting.


I loved how they still did so many toy only characters and forms that you had to use your imagination for and didnt abandon that adter season 1. Stuff like Transmetal Terrorsaur and Optimus Minor.
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>>11834610
that's adorable. I feel bad for him, but I'm also proud of him.
>>11834615
both were being revised at the same time, though. both went through multiple stages that ended up with the relatively similar, if yeah different in bio, stuff that we got.
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>>11834619
Sorry I only know about robots not people

>>11834622
I meant to add something like how it felt like what you would call extra lore or multimedia franchises now. Like all those extra pods in the show you could imagine really had those characters thanks to the profile lore. Or weird shit like Megatron cloning Optimus to make Minor
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>>11834610
But you can do that on your own for free with various software.
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>>11834610
>$40 to shufe the colors of a product shot around in paint, $60 if its a triple changer
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>>11834628
what is good software for digibashes?
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Something I never seen mentioned, and multiple video reviews neglect to do it, but Convoys extended spine piece you flip down for super modes actually clamps onto the spine. Every thing i have seen, they just rest it in the cavity making the Omega Prime Or Super mode Primes torso pieces subject to coming loose.
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>>11834627
yeahh splintered-off microcontinuities. always interesting.
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>>11834632
gotta respect the 'hustle' so to speak. Just.. he's in for a rude awakening
I probably couldn't even get that much for doing original DRAWINGS of robots. and I attempt to charge about 3-4 times that depending on complexity, but nobody's ever asked me to.
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How long until there is an Arcee transforming onahole
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>>11834706
that would make cleaning easier at least
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>>11834610
we've got better digibashers in this very thread >>11832684
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really surprised nobody's making a Big Convoy 3P to blow the terrible new one out of the water.
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>>11834751
plus AI can do it, and even add like, chrome or sparkles or whatever you want to the plastic
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>>11834752
Is it that bad? I wasnt feeling it but im not a big JBW fan to begin with
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>>11834758
it's worse than 'that bad.' it's aggressively mediocre. No individual part of it is easy to point to as a mistake, so they won't learn.

Takara needs to start making their own transformers again, this is getting sad.
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They should retool Kingdom Galvatron into Energon Megatron / Galvatron
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>>11834758
Its almost worth it on sale, not at leader price though
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>>11834763
it's so many little things.. his knees being so far forward on his legs so that his calves butt up against his butt. his incredibly wide hips that serve only to hold kibble that held fine in the original.. his skinny little arms with minuscule tonfas.. the stand for the gun that can't be removed or moved, making it even worse looking than the original gun, easily the weakpoint of the original toy. . the shoulder bits not sitting right and not looking cool no matter how you slice it... the really obvious big toy-ish hinges all over, unlike the original which looked like it was inspired by Mainframe designs.
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>>11834651
They don't do it in reviews? Weird. The piece itself does require minor sanding because the connection is crazy strong.
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>>11834764
>>11834763
I just hate how they sculpt fur compared to the original beast wars toys. It looks the worst it ever did on Big
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>>11834490
> hasbro's insistence on making the most expensive toy the leader, as if kids wouldn't already want him just for being the biggest..
they did the same thing in Beast Wars
Anon it’s been this way since G1 wave 1, the only difference is that they licensed the Jetfire and Shockwave molds by year’s end, and soon other larger toys. But the initial plan revolved around Optimus and Megatron being the most pricy releases of their factions.
But G2 also has its two largest toys be their Optimus and Megatron by the end.
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>>11834623
>both were being revised at the same time, though
The thing is, they were developed separately until they unified both things. They gave Mainframe creative freedom, so obviously things didn't match. When Transmetals were introduced they unified everything with the toys having the show setting and the character models in the cartoon being way more accurate to the toys.

The point is, the reason toy gorilla Primal doesn't match the show size isn't Kenner just being innacurate to the cartoon to sell a bigger toy, but Mainframe taking the character in a different direction. We know the CGI models were designed after the toys, not the opposite.
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>>11834900
Oh yeah! That's the 3p design, RisingForce right? Dunno when it is releasing but it looks really good.
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>>11834936
Hopefully the first one soon
They already have the designs working
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>>11834900
You scared me for a sec and made me think Hasbro was making another one. Thank god they arent.
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>>11834900
Yo.
>>11835056
They eventually will, anon. So brace yourself for when it eventually does happen.
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DAGNABBIT!! It looks like somebody left the window open again. I hope I can find the swatter before they get into the fresh fruit and groceries...
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>>11835138
This post really bugs me.
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>>11835138
>>11835146
I give up; the big war is lost. They can have it for all I care.
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>>11835138
Im praying that Robot Toy does repaints of that MP scale Waspinator. He bas some of the sickest repaints for some reason.
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>>11835174
>He bas some of the sickest repaints for some reason.
Well, they had to do SOMETHING to make people want him.
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>Look at my comic Grimlock swords and Crown
>Can never display them due to them using rubbery plastic.

Why the fuck did they make those accesories rubbery anyway? The swords included with Swoop are hard plastic.
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someone talk me out of dropping 270 on Nemesis Star Convoey please. Im about to do it since i like the regular star optimus
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>>11835189
Is there other rubbery parts on the figure? sometimes they just use the same mold/material for convenience. I think his back wings are rubbery too, yeah? Probably on the same runner or whatever
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>>11835200
I want it too, so no idea how I can help you. You might be able to grab it cheaper later, like I did with MPG Godbomber (90) and NQ Convoy (200), but chances are slim.
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>>11835202
No, Comic Grimlock followed a pattern with the other comic figures, they either had new parts, or were retools. Shockwave and Grim have new accesories, while the others were retools.

So these new parts aren't shared with Grimlock, they made a new mold for the swords and Crown.
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>>11834793
I like it on most of the new ones, but Big does look rather like shit. like literally. the original might have been a bit too 'neatly combed' in its texture, but this is not how you fix that.
>>11834856
my point is after beast wars they didnt do that as much
>>11834916
well then one of them had to pivot hard, and failed to pivot all the way.
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>>11834916
The show was being written before the toys were past the concept stage, though. hence all the episodes where Primal has to fly, they had to give him a jetpack to accomodate that.
>>11835138
>swatting a wasp
your ass, dude..
also these are all fine molds.
>>11835170
>have you ever gone outside
>and noticed that they're really cute?
>they like to buzz around and eat your fruit
>but it's okay cuz they're cute
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>>11835174
I would want to try to repaint the ketchup-red parts a bit because to me they clash with the rest, but.. yeah I definitely would have enjoyed all four of this mold. I only got two, which is fine. Hasbro provided a Parasite, so now I have most of them.
never got their Buzz Saw because his colors dont make sense to me. black wings?
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>>11835056
It’s alright, this one look fairly cool
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>>11835189
cant line them with something?
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>>11835203
I can't remember the last time a Takara only figure went on sale.
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>>11835242
yeah i've given up on shining lio or whatever he's called. blazing lio..
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>>11835203
my gut tells me it'l just go up in price. If I font get it down it'll be like 400 on the secondary market
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>>11835240
I'm no expert so no clue.
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>>11835200
Sure:

-It's 120 dollars more expensive, nearly double the cost of the OG figure, that many snagged for 100 or lower.
-Gigastorm is double the cost of TR Trypticon and does feature new molding, but it's still expensive as fuck.

In my case I'll buy Nemesis if it drops to 220 or lower, pass on Gigastorm since I already own two TR Trypticons and the selects (I didn't buy any of them at retail prices either).
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>>11835242
You wait long enough and you'll snag one. I got Reboost for 30, Crosscut for 49, Nucleon Quest Convoy for 200, God Bomber for 90, MPG Optimus for 45, etc...
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>>11835248
i would try a ring of parchment paper. silicone is pretty inert, I don't think any plastic solvents will melt it, if that's what we're worried aboot.
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Space boats and idol hoes.
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>>11835285
those are nice body bases..
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>>11835285
Nice boat
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>>11835285
Boat hoes not soon, but eventually.
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damn, Rexblade has the same issue of loose combiner joints like the other Wild Docking torsos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wVFQZyTN28
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>>11835303
I'm more upset his docked legs have no knees.
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>>11835311
I mean this is clearly a sentai thing right?
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>>11835253
That’s how much I got nucleon quest for when it released
He’s a great toy
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I was weak, got 86 Shockwave for 39 (tax included). I should have waited, but that purple looked so good.
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>>11835358
where'd you get him for that low?
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>>11835361
Target. He was scanning for old prices.
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>>11835252
>>11835203
sorry, you guys failed, i preordered it
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>>11835358
Considering the popularity of the character, I don't think he's ever going to get any cheaper, so it was probably the right move. I like mine a lot, though I hope DNA eventually puts out an upgrade kit to lengthen the grip on his 'submarine' mode.

>>11835416
You're not alone, if it's any consolation. Stupid expensive as it is, I just can't pass on it. I also want to start a Nemesis collection though, so it'll be a good centerpiece for that.
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I know it had flaws but wish I didnt completely skip Unicron Trilogy when it was out. Minicons are actually kinda neat. I was going to just use modern target masters but I found these on Mandarake when I was about to order something else and ebay sucks (20 shipping for one minicon lol.)
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Just an ordinary group of planemen
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>>11835515
Mini-Cons make for the best Targetmasters, even more than the actual Targetmasters themselves. Hunt more of them anon, ones like the Emergency Mini-Con team or the Mini-Cons that were made during PCC work really well as shoulder mounted weapons for your Predacon.
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>>11835608
Those PCC guys were awesome, I wish they'd do more like that. Chopster and Throttler are great.
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>Mysterious Prime converts between robot and a Mystery Machine-inspired van.
>Automutt converts between a Scooby-Doo robot and a Scooby Snacks box.
>Includes 4 swappable heads and additional accessories.
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>>11835622
Wheelie who turns into Scrappy-Doo
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>>11835622

>Scooby Doo robot

So, a humanoid robot that looks like Scooby Doo or a robot dog?
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>>11835638
Given he said scooby snacks box, I imagine like a cassette bot
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>>11835649

Ah. Probably a Ravage redeco then.
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>>11835632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55nfsUkXpUc
listen to his voice
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>>11835657
Lmao
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Anyone got a shipping notice for Robosen's Soundwave?
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>>11835686
Well pardon us Mr. Gucci loafers, some of us don’t have private airlines delivering self-transforming Transformers to us.
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>>11835535
Just watched Wotafa's video on it. Cool toy, I don't really care about DaGarn so I skipped it but it is really well thought out.
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>>11835691
Gucci? Loafers?
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>>11835515
I wish I'd known more about the recolors of beast era stuff. but around that time I had little access to stores and was more focused on Zoids anyway
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>>11835699
an expensive brand and variety of shoes. anon is insinuating that you are very rich and flaunting it

what country are you from? or are you just under like 30
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>>11829333
Here are my issues

>100+ figure
>No Lights
>No sounds
>Gun's design is ruined by the effects port
>Clear evidence of paint skimping on the chest interior, chest windows, abs and parts of the trailer.
>Matrix doesn't have any gimmicks

It's supposed to be some apex of the design, the best version of the toy you could get, but it's not, especially given the price. It's like a voyager from 20 years ago.
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>>11835825
>lights and sounds on a studio series toy
lmao. not a single voyager optimus on its level either.
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>>11835854
Yeah but I'm saying a leader class should, and that's what he is.
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Sky Lynx was rereleased once already, right? I wonder if there'll be a third release like Jetfire had, since mine's right half yellowed noticeably. And I thought my curtains blocked the sun...
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>>11835865
>Sky Lynx was rereleased once already, right?
Was he? I thought he only had just the initial release. He's not as popular a character as Jetfire, so I don't think they'd bother with another release (even if he's awesome and deserves more love).
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>>11835862
image limit shouldn't count since this one didn't load

well anyway, someone bake a new bread
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>>11835805
>or are you just under like 30
I don't think anyone under 40 is buying those.
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>>11835825
>No Lights
>No sounds
Are you 12?
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>>11835886
that's-
anon, I'm talking about how young you'd have to be to have never heard of gucci loafers.
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>>11835887
I want lights
sounds are ass. i'd rather hear like, computer speaker beeps than this shitty tinny voice recorded crap.
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no but seriously though, make a new thread..
do we have like, updated pastebins or something?
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>>11835911

>>11835922
>>11835922
>>11835922
>>11835922
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>>11833675
yes, an ancient diecast metal shocjwave



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