What is the worst toy company and why?
The worst toy company is the one you like, it's the worst because you like it.
Lego
Sexyice. Business practice and pricing wise.
Does it even matter in 2026, all of them are anti-consumer now anyways
I don't think there is a singular worst as there are several that are atrocious for varying reasons, though all of them are American, unsurprisingly. Obviously we're talking collectible toys, not like pound shop shit, but Neca, McFarlane, Hasbro, Mattel, Beast Kingdoms are all absolutely abysmal, Beast Kingdoms being objectively the worst. If you want a succinct example of how the American capitalist mindset is the absolute death of quality, creativity and innovation, show them the disparity between American and Chinese collectible toys, you'd be hard pressed to find a starker example of American decline in any other area that requires no explanation, it's mind boggling.
>>11886909Oh and obviously Beast Kingdom are not American, I just wanted to get them in as the worst, but I consider the American ones more impactfully bad for what they represent and the resources they have.
>>11886851Bandai. Fuck them, that's why.
>>11886947Truly fascinating. You're like an undead spirit haunting this mostly abandoned board, that waddles out of the sewer pipes every time someone says the magic word.
>>11886953That's a whole lot of bullshit you typed out just to admit you're a troll.
Neca sucks. Shitty qc, technically considered “non durable goods”, sent the wrong people products worth a few hundred dollars then told them they HAD to send it back, and one of their gay employees was accused of sending shirtless pics to a teenager.
>>11887017It's anyone's guess at this point
>>11887009So you have no idea what you're talking about and spreading off topic misinformation. Neat. You're a dumbass.
>>11887003>>11887033A friendly reminder that (you) along with (your) beloved NECRAP will burn in the lake of fire for all eternity, and I'll be laughing as you do so, observing from distance:)
>>11887039Schizo post
>>11886851The real answer is one of the smaller companies barely anyone here talks about like Super7. Wildly overpriced, constant QC issues, significant quality drops from the promo images, tons of abandoned lines, etc. It's no surprise they've had to have several massive sales on their entire inventory. Runner-up would probably be McFarlane in recent years, though they at least started off well with the DCMV line before falling from grace with some of the most anti-consumer practices in the business. The store exclusives, platinum variants that are typically worse and occasionally an entirely different character than the one you bought, declining paint while increasing prices from $20 to $35, artificial scarcity and so on drove a lot of people away.
>>11887033This nigga supports companies that hire pedos
>>11886851Depends on what factors you mean like product quality, business practices, etc. desu I really dislike brandwarring because the fact is most companies have good and bad things about them. It’s really dishonest to shit on one while acting like another is perfect. That being said, some companies are just so far behind the curve, I think it would be fair to call them objectively bad. McFarlane for example whose figures are just so far behind what has become standard across the industry. >>11886909>Japan/China good US badWhy do importfags always have such a superiority complex? I own a ton of shfs, figmas, revoltechs, snail shells, etc. like almost a hundred of them and am disappointed with a lot of them. It’s worse when considering how expensive they are to still have problems. I get way more satisfaction from my Hasbro Star Wars figures than my anime figures because they’re cheap, still have decent articulation and aesthetics and I can actually play with them without fear of breaking something. And no I’m not poor, no I’m not a hamhand because I know those are the go to insults for smug importfags.
>>11886851Taking the question seriously and talking only about well stablished brands? Jazwares. All of their figures look like if they were made 10 years ago. Awful plastic and paint too. Joints are either ugly or barely work at all
>>11887081I mean you are just describing yourself. So maybe rethink your life.
>>11887096.N-n-no...U
>>11886851McFarlane>Shitty sculpts with weird proportions that have bad and ugly engineering. >Ridiculously inconsistent pricing where figures no different than their other slop are somehow $60 just because. >Constantly picking up and dropping licenses left and right, so God help you if they get a property you like because you likely won't get a solid collection out of it unless it's something Todd himself happens to be a fan of. >Outdated 90's collector mentality like making lower quantities of the figures people actually want.>Putting stupid chase variants that are painted solid gold and sending them to strictly online distributors, so you would have no idea what you got until it was delivered to your house and opened the box expecting to get the thing you actually ordered, only just to be pissed and the figure is now sold out so no chance of exchanging it.The only good thing about the last point is there are retards out there dumb enough to pay $100+ for these shit variants so you can at least make money off of them.
>>11886851Neca and McF
>>11887197Wrong again
Neca
>>11886851Cyberfrog is the worseBecause the only good frogposters are dead frogposters
>>11887223Not at all
>>11886851https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgVAQnINZGQ
>>11886851Hasbro. Greedy af now. Jewish.Lego - same storyMcfarlane - just trash all togetherNeca - where to even start
>>11887256Wow some nobody with a shitty video
>>11886851Bandai. They put this sub Spinmaster tier shit out for $26 in Walmarts across America. They could easily put out regular sized Shfs for that and give us more characters instead of wasting everyone's time and money with all their overpriced "budget" lines like Anime Heroes or those 5inch shitters.
>>11887256Wow, what a shitty company.
>>11887285Nothing about that comment is racist lol
Anything that does exclusive
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>>11887039You'll be in hell with him?
>>11886851Tossup between NECA (incompetent engineering, horrendous QC, stupid design choices) and McFarlane (stuck in the 90s, does not understand scale, horrendous sculpts and even worse paint).
>>11887590>incompetent engineering, horrendous QC, stupid design choicesNone of those are actual problems, but sure, continue being a jackass that makes up random bs.
I'm surprised by the lack of Super7 responses, only a few. I think they got so bad most of /toy/ forgets they even exist
maybe not the worst but the one I have the strongest personal grudge with is Hasbro because I can think of at least three big-name lines I used to be really invested in that they've completely gutted and enshittified in the name of milking a few extra pennies. I feel like the nicest thing I can say about them is that they haven't *completely* fucked up the Beyblade X line but even then that's only because TT has them on an insanely tight leash after what they did with Burst, and even then they've been trying their fucking hardest anyway.
>>11887256>Company shipped the wrong things to the wrong people>Asking people to give them back other people who did not get them will miss outWOW, what a horrible company, AM I RITE??
>>11886851Probably NECANEVEREVERCOLLECTANY
>>11887691Pretty much. I've never bought a Super7 product or had the urge to buy one. So I can't say whether they are good or not. Mcfarlane and Neca get brought up a bunch cause people buy them, find them disappointing in some aspect, and then still buy another.
>>11886851MattelHasbro
>>11887691>>11887707Their 7" Iron Giant articulates well and looks great. I also lucked into it on sale right around Black Friday, so the price was totally reasonable. I did pass it by when I saw it at Target because I thought $35.99 was way too fucking high.If Diamond Select hadn't fucked themselves over, I would have preferred another 10 inch to go with the one I already got from my local comic book store a few years back, but Entertainment Earth fucked me over with my pre-order, that they never fulfilled, so I never got the metallic version, and now Ensco (or whatever the fuck that parent company is called), is just sitting on those molds and none of that crap will ever be available again. Certainly not at a fair price.But the tiny Super7 shit I have bought for my nieces and nephews, like the Sesame Street characters, was also just fine for what it is, on sale for like $5.
>>11887704I collected 4 necas and so far none of them broke
>>11887732Pretty much any time someone posts something so hyperbolic as that, you can just ignore them and know they never owned any figures before. Probably don't own ANY toys. It's very common on this board.
>>118868514 letters. Stars with N ends with A.
>>11887734Yeah, you're a pretty dumb troll
>>11886851Mattel fucked over so many of their own toy lines it's unreal
>>11886851Lego. The less they try, the more popular they become.
>>11887747Modern lego is such a sad fucking statethe worst shit ever known, yet childless s.n0ylennials just eat it up
>>11888063Mandr and duck bricks are zoomers though and gulp it all down just as hard, though duck bricks is a little more critical
Premium DNA took preorder money for earthworm jim then went totally radio silent for over a year, then came back asking for more money. And in the meantime the earthworm jims showed up on ali express. That takes the cake in my book.
>>11888066Not just Earthworm Jim, which they claim are still on the way. They took pre-order money for the next wave of Madballs, Garbage Pail Kids vs Madballs, and Care Bears, but lost the license for them during that period of radio silence. And then refused to refund people for their pre-orders and only offered store credit, so if you have no interest in using your store credit on $85 Contra figures or the supposedly still coming Earthworm Jim figures you are shit out of luck.
I hear NECA all the time in these “worst toy company” threads. Only NECA figs I have are from D&D. I don’t don’t people have valid complaints, but my limited experience with the D&D figs is quite positive so the question I have is if that line is representative of NECA?
>>11888138i buy a NECA figure at least once a year since around 2011, if not more, and i've never had a bad experience with them. Gargoyles, TMNT, and random movie shit, btw.
>>11888138>I hear NECA all the time in these “worst toy company” threads.Yeah man at this point I'm not sure if it's because of the neca schizo that hates them constantly spamming about it or because they're actually bad.
>>11887732The fact you had to say "so far" just tells you a lot about the state of NECA.
Jazwares circa 2010-2014.It’s very specific, but this was around the time they got the license to several IPs I was interested in as a teenager>Sonic>Regular Show/Adventure Time>Hanna Barbera>NicktoomsEvery single one of these lines was absolutely riddled with quality control issues across the board. Bad paint, fragile figures that broke in-box, bad sculpts, lack of characters, etc.Every time I wanted a Jazwares figure I had to carefully inspect each and every figure on the peg and not find the “best” one, but rather the one that was decidedly the least fucked up. One time I had to buy and return a Sonic character 4 times because it broke straight out of the package every time.You could say it’s my fault for being an autist and wanting figures from all these cartoons, or for expecting quality from a cheap toy company,but they were my only choice. And frankly, these weren’t premium products meant for adults, so they shouldn’t have been anywhere near as fragile as they were for kids toys. All I did with figures as a teen was pose/display, and Jazwares shit would break anyway.
>>11888222Are you incapable of reading what that was in response to and understanding why "so far" was said
i say mattel. not that they're necessarily absolute dogshit, but that they could easily be better and choose not to be. they've been responsible for a lot of the lines i collect and ive finally gotten fed up with how much they half ass things, from monster high to wwe to hot wheels and beyond. their dc line fucking sucked and i have more than enough to justify that opinion. >>11888183>neca schizo that hates themidk if you've read the thread you're posting in, but the schizo is the one trolling everybody who mentioned neca to defend them
>>11887256Didn’t know about this, how embarrassing for neca
>>11888257>knows mattel is the worst>still giving them moneyyour'e everything that's wrong with this world.
>>11888283How embarrassing that you think anyone cares.
>>11888138Because this board is full of trolls. That's literally it.>>11888257Example being right here.
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It absolutely blows my mind how you two have been going on back and forth for like a decade now. You two are probably the most important people in each other's lives. Seriously though, it's been years. Just exchange phone numbers and email addresses already. You two are obviously in love.
>>11888244That should tell you not to listen to the very obvious shitposting.
>not one mention of Funko
>>11888458Of course not, OP asked specifically about TOY companies. Funkos don't even deserve to be called that.
>>11888481Imagine being this much of a baby you say something this dumb.
>>11888297i buy maybe one mattel product a year these days, and i'm usually pleased! it's the ones i don't buy that suck, because chances are i would've liked to buy them if they didn't suck>>11888354have you even said which company you think is the worst or are you just here to argue with people? you're literally trolling the thread.
>>11888494Imagine defending Funko of all companies. They literally make nothing of worth.
>>11888497You're literally defending trolls. Get a life.
>>11888532Show us on the doll where the "trolls" touched you.
>>11888458Funkos arent articulated though, theyre statues.
>>11888585Funko has made articulated figures in the past but they mostly do Pops and other statues. I have a couple of their DC Primal Age figures and they're okay. Probably overpriced when they came out but sell for around $10 now.
>>11888609Why do you care? You only want to troll people.
>>11888585army men arent articulated either. funko makes plenty of toys
>>11888609>please move goal postsNo. I'm not participating in your weird circle jerk. Get some real conversation skills.
>>11888609NTA, but the Game of Thrones Legacy line. They were 1:12 scale and "fully" articulated. Well, the joints were made of Doritos so they would often explode when you tried to move them, but they were intended to be movable joints. And the articulation cuts were often horrible looking. And the likenesses were questionable. Yeah, Funko deserve a mention in this thread just for fumbling what could have potentially been the biggest collector toyline of the 2010s.
>>11888704Didn't read, keep seething. >>11888712Fair.
Bandai
@11888704@11888717lol, chungusfurry crashing out again
>>11888563You first
>>11888712I bought their Magic figures and some of the wave 2 GAme of Throne figures, and none of them gave me problems.Granted, i treated them like they're from the Mythic LEginos toyline, since everyone was complaining about the plastic being brittle. I forget where they even are now. I think o bought the lion and the orge looking guy from the Magic line, along with the Dothraki guy. I might have bought others, but these were the ones that impressed me... as in, the ywere pretty average.
The worst company is 4 Horsemen.They started off decently, making generic fantasy toys, army builders with minotaurs, birds, warrior princesses, and gods. Then they wanted to expand on that by making knights and more fantasy creatures, but in 1:18 scale. For whatever reason, they decided to make this Mythic Legion line into 1:12, but they lied by saying that 1:18 scale cost nearly as much as 1:12 scale. A really stupid lie that fooled nobody and upset their fans, but people let it slide, because 1:12 scale is good too. Mythic Legion then came out and there was a few problems with QC. Fragile plastics and various paint issues. People sent their emails to get replacements or refunds, which 4H said would take care of. 8 months later, 4H still didn't help everyone and were also ignoring emails. Eventually they started another Kickstarter to make a new wave of figures and they would also put into production older figures to send replacements to people who still needed them. Of course, this took another year, but plz excuse small indie company.So over a year later, the next wave of figures comes out and WHOOPS, same problems with bad quality control and fragile plastics. People complain, want replacements, and 4H still has shitty customer service where they act too slow when they're not ignoring you. Months of waiting, but eventually they get to everyone ,because they need to get on everyone's good side, because they want another Kickstarter because they can't produce a toyline on their own. They constantly need to beg their fans for money to produce anything. Most companies who go through Kickstarter usually make enough money afterward to get loans like a proper business does and produces toys on their own, thus having a steady stream of new toys on a quarterly or yearly basis without begging their fans.
So 5 years after their first kickstarter, Mythic LEgion/4H lost about half their fanbase due to constant poor QC, poor customer service, and requiring you to pay up front (12+ months ahead) for every wave. They start a sci fi line too that sold so poorly that it killed a lot of its retailer support, because they were stuck with a ton stock that they needed to sell off at half price.2 years later and the latest batch new toys is so awful that nearly every figure in that wave crumbles apart. People are crying and bitching on forums everywhere, and then their posts start getting deleted because admins were asked by 4H to delete posts showing broken figures, because they don't want everyone to know how bad the problem is.4H then makes a damage control streaming video, where they're clearly upset at their fans posting their broken figures publically, and the two douchebags in the video are mocking people who break their toys. They make sarcastic remarks about how they can't help people who post their broken toys in forums and how instead they should be sending all issues privately to customer service. They keep making "jokes" and "helpful comments" for about an hour, but the video only stays up for less than 24 hours, because the comments are full of angry customers and even super fanboys who think they went too far.So the video is deleted and they make another video where they don't say that they're sorry for being assholes and instead say people misunderstood them. The community dramatically implodes in less than a week and most places become a ghost town, yet somehow 4H retained enough customers to keep going to this day, still having massive QC problems.However the fans that are left no longer want to upset 4H, they don't post the QC errors as much anymore... but somethings impossible to hide, since retailers need to be more public about it.
>>11889602You've been at this for years. Pathetic.
MCFARLANE OUT OF SCALE STATUESHID MONSTERS (PRINCE OF PERSIA LINE ROCKS)(GREAT VEHICLES)! FUGGO PAP RRRRRRR! JAXX PACIFIC POTATOES!!! STORM COLLECTIBLES OUT OF SCALE WITH BRUTAL ERRORS!!!
>>11889601>>11889602kek, subby can't post anything new because they've dramatically improved and continue to release banger after banger. you do know there's still mythic legion threads here right, you retard?
>>11889601>Most companies who go through Kickstarter usually make enough money afterward to get loans like a proper business does and produces toys on their ownIs that why Spero Toys have had 5 Kickstarters for their toylines alone?Or Wandering Planet Toys have had 7?Or Marauder Gun Runners have had 9 Kickstarters?And if we go outside of action figures, most TTRPG companies like Dwarven Forge keep relying on the Kickstarter model despite the fact that unpainted miniatures are usually insanely profitable.Nevermind that companies like IDW, McFarlane and Playmates have used Kickstarter despite being well established companies with a retail presence and/or their own online store. >buh-buh-but that was different because Todd was only using them as a preorder store despite having his own crowdfunding platform and website he could have used to beg for money because he couldn't get loans for Spawn toys that no retailer wantedkek
>>11889602>>they don't post the QC errors as much anymoreit's almost like... they're much better about QC as time goes on.now go on and get some sleep subby, i'm sure mom will be upset that you're still at this for years instead of doing literally anything else with your time.
>>11889687>>11889611>4H totally learned their lesson!... because they sure didn't in 2015... 2016... 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, or 2024, but now they totally have stopped sucking shit after only the biggest fanboys who remained that suck on 4H's cock the hardest can tell you! cool story, brah.>>11889678With every single one of the companies you listed, you can currently buy their toys, at any moment. You don't need to give them an interest free loan to be able to buy their toys and they always planned to sell their shit at retail, unlike 4H. And with 4H, most of the retailers who carried their product had to make their orders along with the normal fans, because they didn't give wholesale prices. Hence retailers who carried Mythic Legion figures pricing their shit at almost double 4H's prices, like some dirty scalper. I know that Spero gave retailers wholesale prices and MGR also gives wholesale prices too (but they're incredibly niche so almost no one carries their stuff). 4H took almost 6 years to give retailer support, but their prices are complete shit still, because they're greedy fucks.Speaking of greedy fucks, here's another reason why 4H is the worst toy company in business: they're charging a lot of money for toys whose engineering is stuck in 2002. Outdated joints and they're charging as much or more than other tini-tiny toy companies who use modern articulation.Everyone gave 4H a pass for their articulation because plz-understand-that-they're-a-small company, yet all other companies who were even smaller, with no credentials, have all released toys with more articulation and with far superior QC too.
>>11889704>goalpost movement to rambling about wholesale prices because he can't handle the fact that multiple companies have run multiple Kickstarters because they can't/won't get loans from the bankI accept your concession.
>>11886851probably mcfarlane
>>11886851Neca
>>11889704Hamhands.
>>11889948Nope, wrong again
>>11889706There's no goalpost movement. Goalpost movement requires for something to be proven false, but nothing was proven wrong, so the former statements still stand.All these statements still hold true:4H lied to make their Mythic Legions line in the more expensive 1:12 scale.4H had continuous QC problems, that went unchecked for over well over 10 years.4H continues to use brittle plastics because they're too cheap to upgrade.4H is greedy as fuck, so they didn't have wholesale prices for retailers for over 5 years (and their wholesale prices are still insane) and requiring their customers to give the interest free loans for every single round of production4H had shitty customer service and their employees have shit on their fanbase for complaining about the Mythic Legion line has poor QC and brittle plastics.And just because i brought up how 4H cheaps out on their toys by using 2002-tier engineering on modern toys in a later post doesn't invalidate the latter statements. It's an addendum, because there's a character limit and 4H has a long history of being unapologetic fuck ups, thus 4H being the worst toy company.
Reminder that Subjectanon is a retard who hamhanded a Mythic Legions and now dedicates his life to screaming about how 4H ARE TEH SUXXORZ and posting the same stolen pics ad infinitum. He also pretends to be an expert on toy manufacturing despite knowing absolutely nothing and consistently being wrong.
>>11887711why Mattel?
>>11890156At least he's doing it in the right thread for a change. I've lost count of how many threads he's derailed with his off topic bullshit about Joytoy .
>>11889981Yes anon, everyone who dislikes neca is just one anon
>>11886851Mattel >whyThey’ve literally never made a good action figure they’re always bad stiff and ugly
>>11887704Their aliens are good
>>11890111>4H cheaps out on their toys by using 2002-tier engineering on modern toysTrips confirm, but can you post an example? I've never actually paid attention to 4H
>>11890278Yeah anon, its a gayop meant to troll you over neca, no one else has ever said anything unflattering about the company, ever.
>>11890274They have single joints everywhere, like it's still 2002, yet they've been charging for their toys as if they were a modern Japanese figure.I guess their only saving grace is the fact that Japanese toys have increased their prices much more than 4H. So from 2015 - 2022, they were supremely overpriced for what they are. Today, they're only just overpriced.Anyway, because of their 2002-tier engineering, most of their figures couldn't get 90° joint movement out of their limbs. Even after updating their bodies a couple of years ago (still single joints everywhere), they can only get maybe a little better than 90° depending on how plain the sculpt is. Embarassingly, they can't hold their swords correctly because of the 2002-era joints, whereas most lines have been able to hold their swords in front of them since 2005.I think most people were willing to overlook the Mythic Legion's flaws back in 2015-2019, since there were almost no fantasy lines, so beggars couldn't be choosers. Since 2020, a lot of fantasy lines have appeared in 1:12 scale and this is why the current fantasy general is mostly about those other fantasy toylines, despite Mythic Legion fanboys taking up residence there after the Mythic Legion General imploded and died after 4H insulted their fans for complaining about the awful QC.4H definitely doesn't deserve your money for stuck in 2002 toylines, because they're greedy as fuck and hate their fans because they demand replacements instead of accepting the awful QC.
>>11890307>despite Mythic Legion fanboys taking up residence there after the Mythic Legion General imploded and diedLiterally the opposite of what happened; the Mythic Legions general expanded to include other fantasy lines, because a bunch of ML-adjacent lines had popped up from 4H's success and it made more sense to welcome them into the fold rather than split them into their own generals.Also I find it kinda funny you'll claim Mythic Legions' articulation is unacceptable yet defend shit like McFarlane's Halo line (where the most poseable figures have worse articulation than the average ML) and the ancient ToyBiz LOTR junk (where you were lucky if you got outward motion on hips). Smells like hamhands poorfag cope to me.
>>11890309LOL, that's a nice false memory you created to cope.The Mythic Legion General became a ghost town after 4H made their damage control videos to insult their fans after the newest Mythic Legion wave came riddled with air pockets.It was such a ghost town that one of the few remaining 4H fanboys gave up making Mythic Legion Generals and started the generic fantasy general that exists now. So that fanboy has to include all the other fantasy lines into one General, whereas before each of those other lines had their own sporadic threads.>b-b-but everything you like is shit!your butthurt is showing by creating this cope.BTW, that LotR line is exactly what i mean when i say that Mythic Legions have 2002-tier engineering. Both the Mythic Legions and LotR lines can't pose for shit, so you're basically buying them for their designs. Yet the LotR lines has an excuse for not having modern articulation, because they were made in the early 00s.Mythic Legions has no excuse for the shitty engineering, because not only is it currently in production but they cost more than better made modern figures.Again, this is why 4H is the worst toy company.pic of the youtube comments from their now deleted damage control video. 4H never fired the assholes in the video, because they were just repeating what the 4H owners said and thought
Wait a tick. Did necanon mass report everyone who mocked him and the big N - again?And he got away with it - again? kek this site is COOKED.
>>11890402A comically weak comeback, but not as weak as neca joints.>>11890315>>11890307Damn, having the fantasy figure cornered like that and letting it go to waste must sting like hell.
>>11890315>Still lying because he hamhanded his ML and has a retarded grudge against the 4H ever sinceDisgraceful.>B-B-But that one video made in the wake of a one-off incident by some interns who got booted immediately afterwards!! 4H is finished, just two more weeks bro!Stay mad and stay lying I guess.
>>11890481Nooope.
NECA, easily.
Why does this schizo reply to everyone who doesn’t like neca
>>11890799Oh no no no we got too cocky necaxisters!
>>11890539>it's disgraceful to hate a company that insults its customers because they complained about the Mythic Legions line being full of quality control problemSure thing, Eric Treadaway.... or maybe you're Cornboy?I can see one of the founders for 4 Horsemen left your company, because it's full of assholes like yourself.I also like you're pretending that you even fired your employees who made the damage control video, because you can see them doing videos here for at least after they insulted your fanbase. https://www.youtube.com/@FourHorsemenStudios4H/streams>one off incidentthere's a reason why the Mythic LEgion General went from having 80-100+ unique IPs from 2015-2019 to ~50 by 2020 and then no longer existing after 4H shat on all their fans 2 years ago.Over 5 years of brittle plastics, bad paint apps, and customer service that takes over a year to get anything done is why the Mythic LEgion fanbase was halved. Asshole employees repeating what their bosses think in a live stream got rid almost everyone else, hence leaving you personally needing to come here to shill for your company.
>>11890939If it wasn't a one off incident, why is every broken toy youve posted from the same wave? If they were so prone to using brittle plastics before that one wave, and there were so many more fans prior to 2024, and so many more people posting in the threaded here, you should have pics of hundreds of broken toys from the first 8 years of the line. Hundreds. Not just the two you hamfisted.
>>11891005/toy/ was never a good place to get toy images in the first place, because of various stalkers we have on /toy/, so people rarely posted their images here post-2016 (around the time tripfags disappeared, which led to trolls starting to pick on people with noticeable rooms/collections) and i didn't bother saving images until our third archive died.So I'm sorry that i don't meticulously save everything that went on before, because I didn't know that /toy/ would become so depopulated that everyone else who rage quit the MYthic Legion line would also disappear and all that's left are shills like you who will claim that 4H's decade long history of shitty customer service and awful QC didn't happen.I've said this before, but I really do wonder when you'll start to claim that their damage control video where 4H's employees insulted their customers for taking it public that a wave was completely botched never happened, because i never bothered to have saved the video before they deleted it.BTW, when did you start collecting 4H figures? Before 2019 or afterward? Because I'll forgive you for not knowing how many complaints there were when the Mythic Legion General was actually really active with around 100 posters per thread. Like i said, after 2020, at least half the posters from the Mythic Legion General stopped putting up with 4H's shit and quit posting. They pissed off a lot of their fanbase from too many fuck ups. Pic related.
>>11891027>So I'm sorry that i don't meticulously save everything that went on beforeSaying that while reposting a screenshot of a post from 2017? Nah bro, I don't buy it. You do meticulously save everything. We've all seen you repost the shit you've meticulously saved over the years. You even have a meticulous filename system so you can retrieve a pic at a moment's notice whenever you get into an argument with someone.>/toy/ was never a good place to get toy images in the first place>Because I'll forgive you for not knowing how many complaints there wereIf that is the case, and you are obsessed enough to repost a screenshot of a post from 2017 about Power Lords, you should be able to find some of these hundreds of imageless posts complaining about broken toys in the archive. If there were hundreds of anons posting in the threads here buying the toys, and a 2.5% failure rate is considered abnormally high, you should be able to find at least a few posts every wave of people saying they broke a figure.Unfortunately I could easily say they don't exist when they do, which is why the burden of proof lies with you.Get crackin'.
The only correct answers are Neca and McFarlane
>>11891068>not recognizing it's from the archiveAnd if you look up when the image was made, it's from 2020, which is where i saved it from. Do note that almost all images from that thread won't load, because that' from the third archive dying and our fourth archive had trouble saving everything. And the only images that load on that page are ones that have been reposted since then (the archive does some retroactive magic)So how come you're not answering when you started collecting 4H figures? Is it because you're some newfag, thus have no idea what the 4H threads were like before 2020, when the Mythic Legion General actually used to be alive AND had a constant 80+ posters in them? Because it sure sounds like you only started coming to /toy/ when the Mythic Legion General became depopulated thanks to 4H fucking over their customers for years and years.So even you recognize how pathetic the Mythic Legion General actually was when you first started, since the General barely got anymore discussion due to low amount of posters.Which again, the Mythic Legion General no longer exists, thanks to 4H insulting all their fans for not putting up with an entire wave being made of pringles potato chips.Pic is from someone making a guide on how NOT to break the Ogres. This is a great example of how 4H has shitty quality control, because the joints were tearing themselves apart because 4H rushes shit out instead of testing tolerances. This affected all the figures that used this body and the poster who made this guide cried that he wasn't going to take images anymore because it was "used against 4H" because it proves how often 4H fucks up constantly. So posters like him are why the last few fans today won't post any fuck ups that used to be commonly reported.Again, this is why 4H is the worst toy company.
>>11891100>not recognizing it's from the archiveHerpa derpa why would I not recognize that its from the archive and then suggest that you retrieve all of these imaginary complaints from the archive?>Do note that almost all images from that thread won't loadWhich is why I said you could easily post screenshots of the imageless complaints. The text of those posts is still archived. People usually describe what happened when a figure breaks.>So how come you're not answering when you started collecting 4H figures?Because I answered it the last time you used that question in an attempt to deflect from proving your claims.How come you aren't posting proof of 8 years of brittle plastics resulting in broken figures prior to 2024? 100+ posters x 19 waves x 10 figures per wave on average? Statistically, there should be at least dozens of posts from anons who snapped an arm or a leg, even if the failure rate was only 1%.>So posters like him are why the last few fans today won't post any fuck ups that used to be commonly reportedThey should be easy to find in the archive if they were commonly reported.
>>11886851Super 7 by virtue of being massively over priced for really mediocre figures
>>11891125>you're supposed to know exactly who i am! >AnonymousOk retard. Just like how I'm supposed to find images of broken Mythic Legion figure without seeing if what they posted is a broken Mythic Legion figure?And i like how you have to ignore the fact that people had to make a GUIDE to not break their Mythic Legion figures. We fucking need to treat the figures like GLASS and carefully study the engineering because of 4H's reputation of BRITTLE FIGURES.No toyline gets shit like that if they didn't have a history of being shitOH, and that earlier image about Power Lords i posted? The context for that is another reason why 4H is the worst toy company.4H got the license for Power Lords and they ran out of money to make the toyline. So because their Mythic Legions line was so successful they wanted to do a fundraiser to make a full Power Lords line. But because 4H are greedy assholes, instead of using newbie friendly Kickstarter like they did with the birds and Mythic LEgion line, they decided to do it on their own website. Fucking retarded, because NOBODY but their fanboys trust them.They also have no reputation outside of them and Hemanfags, which are ~1:12 lines. Power Lords was 1:18 scale and 4H, being the retards that they are, didn't advertise on any of the 1:18 scale fan sites nor communities. And to prove how retarded they are, 4H also didn't bother to tell anyone what their goal was or even a way to monitor how many orders or how much money they raised. So of course the fundraiser failed and 4H wasted everyone's time and their own money on getting the PL license4H are that incompetent, and again, this pissed off many 4H fanboys, hence the MYthic LEgion General having half its userbase by 2020pic of people summarizing the Mythic Legion General, because everyone was getting fed up with 4H by 2017. note the shitting on their customer service and quality control, because 4H earned its reputation as the worst toy company for over a decade
>>11891137>you're supposed to know exactly who i amNo, but I'm not surprised you missed the point. >Just like how I'm supposed to find images of broken Mythic Legion figure without seeing if what they posted is a broken Mythic Legion figure?Yes, just like I am supposed to believe that they have 8 years of brittle plastics with no proof that they have 8 years of brittle plastics.>And i like how you have to ignore the fact that people had to make a GUIDE to not break their Mythic Legion figuresAnd I like how you posted that guide instead of proof of broken figures.>pic of people summarizing the Mythic Legion GeneralBut no pic containing instances of people actually breaking their figures? I mean, you are quite literally proving that you do meticulously save screenshots from the archive, so if complaints about brittle plastics were common, they should be easy for you to find.
subjectanon how do you feel about neca? we know you hate brittle and breakable toys but i haven't seen your take on their non durable goods yet.
>>11891149Read his post >>11891137>No toyline gets shit like that if they didn't have a history of being shitSpeaks for itself, really.
>>11891143>no proof of brittle plasticoh, except my proof, huh? >And I like how you posted that guide instead of proof of broken figures.again, the fact someone needed to make a guide, because he knows how shit the plastic is is proof that 4H has a history of shitty plastics. NEvermind he wouldn't need to make a guide if the plastic on that ogre wasnt shit in the first place. Most toylines you can just force the joints without fear.>you do meticulously save screenshots from the archiveThey don't exist, retard, because we went through 3 archives and older pics weren't saved. I only started saving shit when shills like yourself started deny things that happened a week/month/year/years ago. So newfags like yourself can't deny that 4H has had a shitty reputation for a decade straight, pic related.The Power Lords png i saved because i thought that was funny. The ogre image i saved because i have that figure and wanted to prevent the shitty plastic that 4H uses from ripping itself apart. That image of anons complaining just now? I saved just a minute before posting it, because i wanted to look up the Power Lords png posts to get mroe context. Keywords: lack of communication. same as pic.What a coincidence that that search phrase turns up a lot of shitting on 4H, because they havea long history of fucking up and making their fans angry. You can't name a worse company than 4 Horsemen.Also, i like how the last poster in pic is being an asshole and playing up FOMO. It's no wonder the MYthic LEgion General was dying by 2020, because it's a ton of people dealing with shills and figures riddled with QC errors because 4H rushes production to profit more on their overpriced 2002-era-engineered figures.
For imports you got mafex, bandai, and figma battling it outDomestic probably subpar 7 or mcfartlandAs much as people hate hasbro they're still a step above the rest unfortunately
>>11891152>no proof of brittle plasticI said>no proof of 8 years of brittle plasticsIf you need to resort to misquoting me in a greentext, then it shows how dishonest you are.>the fact someone needed to make a guide, because he knows how shit the plastic is is proof that 4H has a history of shitty plastics.No, it is proof that the ogres had a design flaw. Proof that figures from the Coliseum wave having brittle plastics would be posts complaining that a figure from that wave broke.>They don't exist, retard, because we went through 3 archives and older pics weren't savedThe posts are still archived. That why I have told you TWICE that you could post the IMAGELESS COMPLAINTS from the archive. The archive goes back to at least when the first Legions Kickstarter arrived in backers hands. Post those IMAGELESS COMPLAINTS of people breaking elbow and knees and hips on those figures, and then in every wave for the next 8 years, if you want people to take you claim seriously. The COMMON COMPLAINTS that should be very easy to find since they are so COMMON.
>>11891163>find eight years worth of needles in a hay stackfuck off, retard. Did you even bother to look at the posts pictured? Not every post describes what's going on in the image and even my original posts with my pictures don't. And there's a bazillion mentions of "Broke" and "broken" on /toy/.So even if i was stupid enough to waste my time, you'll make some other excuse. Sorta like how you're ignoring I've been posting years worth of QC issues and shitty plastic examples that the Mythic Legion line was having for the past decade.Multiple anons in 2017 >>11891137 >>11891152 reporting their issues with the Mythic Legions line having shitty paint, molding and plastic issues, plus complaining about shills like you trying to deny the facts that are right in your face.Then you have other shills like you making guides >>11891100 in 2019, warning everyone of 4H rushing production once again and telling everyone that the shitty plastic will rip itself apart unless you fix 4H's issues for them.And here's >>11890315 a bunch of people on youtube in 2024, saying that 4H are a bunch of assholes because the latest wave was full of holes.And this is >>11889602 eight months later in 2024 with a retailer lettign customers know that 4H fucked up yet again, because they literally don't care of how bad the QC is going to be when rushing their product out to save money.4H never learns from their mistakes, doesn't want to admit to their fuck ups, and just wants to keep fucking their customers in the ass. And don't you dare cry about it.So are you a fucker or their little bitch?pic is after that 2024 wave that was full of holes, because 4H thinks you deserve brittle plastics.
>>11891190That pic is from after the Poxxus wave. I told you to post proof that waves prior to the Poxxus wave had brittle plastics. Keep at it though.
>>11891190>So even if i was stupid enough to waste my timeYou've been digging through the archive all night wasting your time taking new screenshots for your manifesto, so clearly you are that stupid. You are so stupid that you think you can deflect from your lack of proof that waves prior to 2024 had widespread breakages issues with new screenshots that have nothing to do with brittle plastics.>shills like youI haven't shilled anything. I asked you to prove waves prior to 2024 had brittle plastics, and you are losing your shit because you can't find any.
>>11891151Yeah it says you're a pathetic troll
>>11891149Peobably because they're neither of those things. Not that you'd know that since you don't even buy toys. You shitpost all the time instead. Idiot. You aren't clever, you parrot.
>>11891214That's not what it says. At all.
lego, brittle blue craphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHnNNZbwaNQ
>>11891241Yes it does
>>11891245If it's anything like the issue with reddish brown, they should have that resolved by 2040.
>>11891266small danish family company , please understand.
>>11891208>You've been digging through the archive all night wasting your timeHow retarded are you?Again, if you look at my screenshots, they're all literally come from a single search based on the Power Lords screenshot from earlier, which is an old image i saved in 2020. I was curious what else was said in taht thread, because i forgot. And within that search (again, the keywords for that search: "lack of communication") i found all those other posts. Took about 10 minutes to read them and a few seconds to screenshot from the pages i opened.Like i said, I'm not going to bother jumping through your stupid hoops, because i already proved that you're a newfag and 4H is the worst company ever by giving many examples from many years about their shitty customer service, their brittle plastics, employees who unapologetically insult their customers, 4H being made up of retards who can't into business, awful paint apps, and dozen more examples.You can keep making up stupid goalposts, but you can't even defend anything they've done in the past and even into recent times, like this bear that came out this year. They still keep on using brittle plastics, just like all the toys I've posted from my own collection in 2015, 2017, and 2020.And people like you keep on rewarding them with your money and defending their trash, despite giving you brittle shit for over a decade and literally insulting you. This is why their newest MYthic Legion figures are still made of brittle plasticsOR are you not a retarded little bitch, but one of those retarded fuckers who likes fucking what's left of your fanbase? ITs pretty fucking retarded to fuck over your fanbase, when you could have spent a little more cash to release quality products and gain customers instead of losing them with shoddy figures
>>11891071No, that's just you showing what a troll you are.
>>11891556>Again, if you look at my screenshots, they're all literally come from a single search based on the Power LordsThose two screenshots don't mention Power Lords, so there is no way to know that they were found from your Power Lords search. Also they were from 6 months before the Power Lords crowdfund, so you cleary are stupid enough to waste time digging through the archive, just not for what you were asked to prove.>Like i said, I'm not going to bother jumping through your stupid hoopsIt is literally the only thing I have been asking about. You've gone off on every tangent possible to avoid having to prove the only thing I have asked about, which was you claim regarding "Over 5 years of brittle plastics" "from 2015-2019.">because i already proved that you're a newfagThe only thing you have proven is that you are evasive.>You can keep making up stupid goalpostsIt was the only goalpost, and it has never moved. And it's a pretty big goalpost. A multi year goalpost with hundreds of common complaints for you to farm from, but apparently they don't exist.>you can't even defend anything they've done in the past and even into recent times>And people like you keep on rewarding them with your money and defending their trashI haven't defended anything. I have asked you to prove your claim.>OR are you not a retarded little bitch, but one of those retarded fuckers who likes fucking what's left of your fanbase? ITs pretty fucking retarded to fuck over your fanbase, when you could have spent a little more cash to release quality products and gain customers instead of losing them with shoddy figuresYou sure are getting assmad because you can't prove what you claimed.
>>11891679>If i don't look at all the facts that you've shown how 4H is the worst toy company then you haven't proven anythingok retard.And i still can't tell whether you're a retarded bitch who likes taking it in the ass from 4H, or the retard fucking a retarded bitches in the ass, because 4h has proven that they're retards who fumbled their business over and over.As an anon said 9 years ago about the now-dead Mythic LEgion General>The thread was a circlejerk disaster>You aren't allowed to criticize anything even if you have photographic evidence of your issue.Everyone has known how bad the Mythic Legion line was for over a decade and it still is, given so many issues still pop up, like that bear that came in package with the paws already broken.
neca, but not for the reason you think
>>11893163>or the retard fucking a retarded bitches in the ass,Holy ESL, Batman!
>>11893163>>11891556>>11891190>>11891137why does thie retard ignore the massive success the brand has with its multiple off shot brands and cross overs like the new skeleton warriors reboot and yearly conventions they do that have stuff sell out? is this guy a retard ignoring reality? all you seem to do is focus on old drama and never bring up anything from the weekly streams they do. also that dragon is coming out this year why are you ignoring how successful that project is?
>>11893167Nope
>>11893167What is your reason then?
>>11893167I'm sure it's just as stupid a reason
>>>11893189 NO U THE WETAWD!funny that you mention their streaming videos, because more people used to watch the 4 Horsemen streams before their employees took a shit on all their customers for publicly complaining about their Mythic Legions breaking.Before taking a shit on their customers, their videos were regularly getting a thousand+ viewers. Since then, they're hovering from sub-200 to 700 viewers most of the time. So it's pretty clear that they lost half their fanbase 2 years ago, which was probably half the fanbase before 2020. Again, the Mythic Legion General was regularly getting 80-100+ posters until 2020. After that, it was around 50 posters per General until the infamous damage control video where 4H's employees (who still work there) mocked their customers because the QC was ridiculously bad (pic related). Afterward, the Mythic Legion General was killed off, because it was such a ghost town.Anyway, to say that it's such a success today is a laugh, because no one actually knows how many figures they sell.Everything that they make requires an interest free loan from their customers, because 4H has such bad credit they can't get loans from banks to make toys on their own. And we know that their in-stock sales (where they sell remainders) take even longer post-2020 to "sell out". Since 2020 4 Horsemen just says something "sold out" to create FOMO, and they regularly put those "sold out" figures on sale at conventions or back on their next in-stock sale. Before 2020, sales took less than a day (if not minutes) for everything to actually sell out. Gone, unless they put them back in production.4H is the worst company, who are only kept in business by a smattering of retarded fanboys who enjoy being shit on by 4H and love 2002-era engineering on their overpriced brittle toys.
>>11893227>>11893227hwey, fucking retard, talk about the failure of their products form this year, and last year. talk about their streams. talk about the dragons. talk about their yearly convention being a failure and how preorders for the gladiators from the build a figure they do at the event is a failure, and how selling mystery boxes at the event for 25 dollars each is a failure. but you wont, because youre a goddamn fucking retard that talks about things from five years ago. talk about how the skeleton warriors is a failure despite them doing the bone dragon which was a toy that never got made
>>11893227>So it's pretty clear that they lost half their fanbase 2 years ago, >2020>2020>2020>2020>2020talk about 2025, 2026, you fucking retarded out of touch boomer. are you poor? talk about their beef with 3poa podcast and how they got banned. talk about why toy unity was created as an alternative to 4horsemen legions con and bobby vala butting heads with them. talk about savage crucible
>>11893227>nce then, they're hovering from sub-200 to 700 viewers most of the timhey retard, do you live in a cave? all their videos are above 800 views. fucking retard faggot
>>11893163Your claims aren't facts unless you can prove them. So you can't prove your claim and are now posting your homoerotic fantasies along with Minoshit.jpg for the 25th time?I take it you couldn't find any of the dozens of instances of limbs snapping that statistically should have been posted here from 2015-2019 in the archive and should be easy to find, so you had to post the same old shit you always do.>The thread was a circlejerk disaster>You aren't allowed to criticize anything even if you have photographic evidence of your issueSure. Some "mystery anon" said that, and not some retard that had been complaining about his minotaur falling over non stop every thread until multiple anons got tired of him crying like he was Monica Bellucci in a pedestrian underpass and told him to to shut the fuck up, which made him so eternally butthurt that he went on a 10 year crusade against the company.Is that why you you constantly need to bring up assfucking? Were you anally raped in a pedestrian underpass under the 110 by a homeless man? That would explain a lot about you.
>>118932365000 views for a Mythic Legions wave announcement.>fOuR hOrSeMeN lOsT aLl ThEiR fAnSThere is a difference between the real world and 4chan, but this retard would never know because his whole existence revolves around 4chan because his life peaked when he posted a "firing mah lazer" gif in 2005.
>>11893243subby is too much of a retard to talk about what they're currently doing because he is dumb and poor simple as, its why 4horsemen are doing so well while he cries like the big baby he is
>>11893244He needs the fantasy that everyone else hates 4H as much as he does and nobody is buying their figures to rationalise the 10 years of his life he's wasted writing essays about 4H.
>>11893246subby should talk about the failure of the book and how they sold so many they're considering reselling it again because of how much demand there is, oh and subby should talk about how their current book which explains the mythos of the first age of mythic legion is also a failure because it doesnt have an action figure to sell with it. maybe subby should talk about how much of a failure the war game theyre selling is a failure because they had to sell it on kickstarter again because their usual preorder scamming website doesnt work as well despite them only using the kickstarter for that campaign a few months ago and everything else still being preordered through their website.
>>11893236I'm talking about overall.If you want to do this scientifically, the first 15 streams had ~3100 viewers on average. The last 15 streams are ~1700 viewers on average. Shock and awe: ~half.If you look at the top 10 rows (33 videos) of their most popular videos, 2/3rds are before 4H decided to shit on their fanbase for daring to complain about their toys being full of air pockets, making their Mythic Legions as prone to snapping as a dorito.Again, their popularity has halved and probably halved before that due to 4 Horsemen constantly fucking up year after year after year.>>11893232I have talked about 2026, but since the Mythic Legion General is dead, there's not as much talk about Mythic Legion like there used to be.Considering we have retarded fanboys who have admitted they won't post pictures of their broken Mythic LEgion figures anymore, they're also obviously avoiding talking about big issues like the Bodvar bear (a 2026 release) coming broken in package, PLUS people reporting theirs breaking after taking it out of the package, pic related.And i talk about 4 Horsemen's past because it's to show their history of fucking over their customers and how they continue NOT fixing known issues and making the same mistakes for their most current figures. They don't want to fix their fuck ups, just like how they're unapologetic about insulting their fans. They're completely retarded assholes, taking advantage of the last few fans they have left who are obviously also retards.And we know that they have far fewer fans, because their sales take longer than ever and they need to push FOMO by pretending their toys have sold out too.No other company is as shitty as 4 Horsemen. >>>11893237 nothing is facts if i don't agree with themok retard
>>11893273>And i talk about 4 Horsemen's past because it's to show their history of fucking over their customers and how they continue NOT fixing known issues and making the same mistakes for their most current figures. They don't want to fix their fuck ups, just like how they're unapologetic about insulting their fans. They're completely retarded assholes, taking advantage of the last few fans they have left who are obviously also ryou dont talk about anything. you're a goddamn fuckin retard and ignore all the success theyve had and sending out free replacements because you're that fucking dumb
>>11893273If you want to do this scientifically, the first 15 streams had ~3100 viewers on average. The last 15 streams are ~1700 viewers on average. Shock and awe: ~half.why are you such a retarded nigger and ignore the reveal streams getting 5000 views each, fucking retard. thats all you do lie and pretend mythic legion is dead when the threads on here are doing fine
>>11893273>everything is facts if i don't prove themOk. Subby uses the sword from his Kickstarter Medieval Spawn as a dilation wand. This is a fact. I don't need to prove it.
>>11893278>their toys aren't still full of quality control problems if they send you another one!lmao!fucking retard logicSo now you're stuck with another figure that will also break on you (post related >>11890939 ) or you needing to treat like your Mythic Legion like it's made of glass because it's still from the same batch of fucked up QC errors. OR you need to put it on shelf, never to touch it like 4H recommends.>>11893280>b-b-but the rare exceptions!supreme retard who doesn't understand math. The fact is, on average, more people used to care about what 4H was doing thus getting over 3100 views per video and half of those viewers stopped watching their videos after getting insulted by 4H, thus getting around 1700 view per video.And the bottom ten rows (33 videos total) for the least popular are all mostly after 4H decided to shit on their fans. 28/33. Scrolling further, it's ridiculous how the vast majority of the 300-500 view videos are mostly just shit from after. It's a very hard drop from before those asshoels insulted their fanbaseWorst company ever or most retarded company ever?BTW, two of the lowest viewed videos from before 4H took a shit on their customers was to talk about skate board decks and a 3 second video to wish people a happy thanskgving>>11893286>photographs, maths, and screenshots aren't factsstay mad, retard.Lemme just repeat this again, because it obviously bothers you that more than one person was catching onto 4H's horrible business practices and how awful their fans are.>The thread was a circlejerk disaster>You aren't allowed to criticize anything even if you have photographic evidence of your issueThis was in 2017. amazing how apt it is today. nothing ever changes... except the Mythic LEgion General being dead.
>>11893295>>11893295>This was in 2017yea and they've improved, fucking retard. talk about their books, talk about the dragon. talk about how much of a failure legions con is, talk about how their new skeleton warriors reboot is gonna flop and stop repeating yourself with the same dumb fuck boomer takes from 10 years agp, do you speak english?
>>11893295>This was in 2017And lemme repeat this again.That was obviously you because you were still assblasted from the time everyone told you to fuck off and stop being a little bitch because you'd complain about your minotaur in every new thread.
>>11893297>they've improved [since 2017]pics from >>11893273 >>11891556 >>11891190 [and many other posts that i can't link to because 4chan thinks my post is spam if i include them] proves they didn't improve and might have gotten worse. All these images are from the past 3 years into the current shit.In fact, their customer service has gotten worse, because they've outright have said they hate their customers.>b-b-but what about their upcoming figures!?!Why would anyone want to buy more of their upcoming figures if they constantly have proven to release products with brittle plastics and rushing products out without quality control to save a nickel?And again, since you fanboys have admitted you don't want to post your problems on /toy/ anymore, why should anyone trust the bullshit you retards say? You can pretend that the newest wave is the greatest ever, while you're busy fixing 4H's shitty QC problems on your newest figures.
>>11893302>because 4chan thinks my post is spamWhat a coincidence. So do most of us here.
>>11893205it fucking autocorrects to a slur on my phone. amazon temp banned me for 'typing racial slurs in the search bar'
>>11893391In this thread alone, he has written more words than the first chapter of The Fellowship of the Ring.
>>11886851Playmates toys is one of the worst for the sheer amount of figures they cancelled before release
>>11893448Lol. Might as well be writing short stories at this point. At least he'd get paid something.I don't know why anyone but newfags who don't know any better bother arguing with him. He doubles and triples down even when he's full of shit and just goes on endlessly to have the last word.
>ctrl f>neca>33 resultsdear oh dear
Or, counter schizo theory, maybe NECA is disliked by a few dozen people on toy? I'm starting to dislike them because of YOU, Neca Anon.
>>11893679Not everyone who disagrees with your prefered toy company is a troll, Neca Anon.
>>11893681Not him, but it's pretty clear you are. So of course someone's going to call you out for it.
>>11886851Hasbro, but not necessarily because their products are the worst but because they make everything unnecessarily difficult for absolutely no reason through their incompetence.They keep increasing prices on flimsy excuses, don't acknowledge bad quality control, make toys hard to get and hard to classify, split waves into exclusives, are slaves to walmart, haven't fixed their distribution in ages to the point it's excepted of them, waste resources on stupid children toylines children don't want when they could focus on making collector lines more durable, etc.I could mention some frustrating company like Evolution Toys, or a low quality line nobody expects anything from like Lanard, or the many small kickstarter companies mentioned here, but there are perfectly good reasons they have those flaws.Hasbro just makes every wrong decision you could imagine at every turn they get to make one.
>>11887570>literally breaks a leg after making their entrance
>>11893698>hey keep increasing prices on flimsy excusesFound someone who isn't paying attention to the world goings on.
>>11893704If you were paying attention, you'd notice all the companies that haven't raised their prices as often as Hasbro has.
>>11893810hasbro and neca have been the most guilty of this. super7 seems close behind, with mcfarlane right behind them.
>>11893820They're only guilty of doing what has to be done.
>>11893826There are plenty of companies that haven't needed to jack up prices 3 times in 2 years like Hasbro has done. Stop sucking corpo cock.
>>11893820mcfarlane is selling 60 dollar "elite edition" regular figures now, while hasbro only jumped to 50 with "maximum"
>>11894186I mean todd is infamous for championing against comic companies jewing their creative staff, and then turning around and jewing his own creative staff once Image got up and running. Is it really a surprise that he would jew his toy customers like this?
>>11894261Given he went from 1994 to around 2024 without doing so to his toy customers? Yeah it's actually pretty surprising. He tended to always keep toy prices down. He has been able to keep his comic prices low as well, while DC and Marvel's skyrocket. Something must be really wrong at McFarlane Toys for them to have to do this.
>>11894291please understand he needs a new second hand baseball.
>>11893475>you can't argue with subjectanon because we'll never get him to change his mind that 4 Horsemen- who has been releasing Mythic Legions with brittle plastics, a ton of paint defects, loose joints, and pretends to fix their issues for over 10 years straight- is actually goodYeah, sure, if we ignore that 4H still releases figures that will snap just from being packaged and still hasn't apologized for making an hour long video insulting their fanbase for publically complaining about brittle plastics, maybe then they'd not be the worst toy company.
>>11894439>autistic screeching about brittle plastics and their figures snapping>pic is of a figure that has been pulled apart
>>11886851I would say funko but as of right now I loathe Nendroid. Overpriced fomo chibislop that somehow gets every anime ip under the sun even ones that haven't had proper merch in decades. And worse is the shifty resale. High demand low quantity. So some shit nendroid of Alucard will now sell for more than most scale figures. I only buy them second hand or bootlegs.
>>11894439ok sbubby
>fortnite line>figures are all different heights>no guns>no trigger fingers>single jointsit's like they wanted to be posted in here!
>>11894989Do you wanna know why I use a knife?
>>11895037fanboys don't give a shit about flaws. They only want to defend said products, even if the company who makes those products literally hates them... like 4 Horsemen and the Mythic Legion line. Fanboys like >>11894459 will post anywhere and everywhere, making up lies and just constantly trying to start fights, because they can't actually defend 4H's retarded business model.So >>11894989 is lucky that the only flaws are some scale, accessory, and engineering problems (who makes that line anyway?).The Mythic Legion line has bigger problems and 4 Horsemen has literally told the people who buy their Mythic Legions not to take their toys out of the package and/or leave them on a shelf if they don't want to break the brittle plastics of their toys.Mythic Legions isn't an actual toyline if they're too delicate to be played with. One of the newest figures has such brittle plastics that the figure came broken in the package.•Mythic Legions is billed as 1:12, but it's more like 1/11, because it's supposed to be compatible with Mattel's non-scale Heman shit.•The articulation is stuck in 2002, because 4H wants to make their toys as cheaply as possiblem, despite their figures costing as much as Japanese collector lines.•Because they're made as cheaply as possible, each wave is rushed through production, skipping quality control measures and testing. •said rushing means toys have come with paint that scrapes off easily, extremely tight joints that twists the plastic off, very loose joints to the point figures constantly fall down, air bubbles in the plastic (prone to breaking), paint apps being poor or missing, features missingThis shit has been going on for over 10 years straight, and despite losing at least half its fanbase, 4h continues fucking over its remaining customers because they learned that these last few fanboys don't care, even after being shit on in a damage control video 4H made.
>>11895050the figures are legitimately out of scale with eachother for a fortnite line. you would know this if you actually bothered to know anything about toys. its a fortnite line and anyone that knows anything about it can tell you the issues immediately no matter how much you ignore reality. >>11895049So >>11894989 (You) # is lucky that the only flaws are some scale, accessory, and engineering problems (who makes that line anyway?).neca (if the immediate meltdown didn't make it obvious)
>>11894989mama mia what pieces of shit
>>11895063yes, they are. this is common sense.
>>11895059there is something wrong with you. they should all be the same height. they are not. they are out of scale.
>>11895097they're all branded as fortnite figures. they are inconsistent with fortnite's heights. they are a failure, much like yourself.
>>11895099thats how fortnite skins work, you know-nothing troll
>>11895101insane reality-denying cop there, man. really embarrassing behavior. they're fortnite toys based on fortnite game models but fail as fornite figures. no amount of trolling people who actually care about things toys are based on will change these facts. troll elsewhere, or at least answer the op.
>>11895049>Fanboys like >>11894459 will post anywhere and everywhere, making up liesWhat lie? Nothing in that pic is snapped or broken due to brittle plastics. That's how you remove the front legs at the shoulder joint.
>>11895109i used his image because it illustrates the exact issues i mentioned as why they fail as fortnite toys. i care about a lot of things, one of which is fortnite. i have a bunch of fortnite toys for a reason. what do you have beyond a compulsion to troll every single person in this thread who mentions a specific company to which you hold to zero standards? nobody has ever been more upset about toys than you.
>>11895122i stated objective facts about the figures. reality doesnt change just because you don't care.
I hate Neca because I hate the Neca sperg. He makes me hate his favorite company.
>>11895148How does that make me a troll? I'm giving my thoughts on the current topic. That poster doesn't make the company seem very appealing if he's the type of person they attract.
>>11895152Why do I have to be mentally ill if I don't like a toy company?
>>11886851All of them. For the simple fact that none of them will make a modern figure of my favorite dude.
>>11887009No that was confirmed there were receipts of grooming3POA still has a podcast up talking about it and they confirm there are receipts and it's not good. But yeah neca probs
>>11895182Your favorite dude belongs to a different era and Randy's attempts to make him fit the Current Year are proof he should stay that way. Cherish the memories.
>>11895107>I'm not lyingit's broken, you lying retard.There's no reason to take a figure like that apart... unless it's to fix the shitty quality control that 4H isn't giving their Mythic LEgion figures like in this picture >>11891100. But again, it's broken.And you're just an example of the many lies you Mythic Legion shills have been making up in this thread, all because you want to deny there have been wide spread problems nearly every year, for over a decade.You assholes keep pretending that they totally improved for the latest new preorder, but year after year, they keep fucking up and we know it's because 4 Horsemen are just rushing product out instead of giving any of their Mythic Legion figures a quality control check.Nevermind the shitty brittle plastics.There is no worse toyline than Mythic Legion and no company has wronged their customers as much as 4 Horsemen has.
>>11895256>You assholes keep pretending that they totally improved for the latest new preorder, but year after year, they keyea they have improved andd the generals here do very well as do their yearly conventions that you're too poor to attend. that's all your bitch ass can do post the same recycled photos from five years ago
>>11895157>this guy is annoying and he's making me dislike stuff by being annoying about it>"no, you're mentally ill"'k
Meccano.If you know, you know.
>>11895307How is a NECA employee grooming children off topic when it's a thread about bad toy companies?The question is what are the worst companies and why - NECA QC, customer service, attempted defrauding of customers and tons of FTC violations. Why are you gaslighting this is off topic?
>>11895321Why are you claiming it's lies when hundreds of people have seen it online and talked about it?The only strange behavior is you coming irrationally to the defense of a company and gaslighting anything about it someone says. Do you work for NECA? If so, can you explain the attempted federal fraud the company threatened to their customers?Or explain to the parents of the children abused by an employee why their kids will have to live with trauma the rest of their adult lives?Look man let's keep this on topic at least and you should say something related to the subject of the thread which I have been doing.
>>11895332You just keep claiming I'm doing exactly what you're doing.Please stop derailing the thread and actually contribute something.Anyways back to the subject at hand - Does anyone know what ever happened with the sewers they sent out? Did NECA make everyone who paid for them whole?It's interesting because some of the newer figures definitely have a little better of a plastic mix but others not so much.Definitely one of those companies where it's a hard sell to get me to get anything new. Premium DNA ever refund peeps?
>>11895359Okay this guy has to be trolling I suggest taking your meds
>>11895368That's not even the juicy one. Their threat to charge customer's cards without autorization if they didn't return it was the cream of the crop.
>>11895368I suggest you stop shitposting about something the company had every legal right to do.
>>11895368>>11895373So what ended up happening with this? Did everyone just return the diorama? Or NECA start charging the people that got it by mistake?
>>11895475People returned some and those people that didn't got charged and their accounts limited on the store.
>>11895388Lol no they didn't that's literally the point- wait wait wait... so you claimed they didn't do that and people are lying and then you say they had the right to do it.Absolutely busted.
>>11895481I don’t think they ever actually even charged anyone for them, just threatened to. Probably decided it wasn’t going to be worth even further bad press for what was probably just a couple thousand dollars.
>>11895501You are lying about other things, the dios they had every legal right to get payment on. You are a psycho.
>>11895481>>11895505Yeah I think that's the schizo NECA poster (possibly employee) NECAshitposting to spooky peeps.
>>11895506Dude this is 100% the psycho NECA employee possibly groomer. Stop trying to derail threads and gaslight no one believes you at all.
>>11895475Isn't there a rumor Reckless Ben is making a video about the NECA situation?I bet there are some real interesting dark things going on within the company. On another note - it seems Hasbro is trying to completely derail the Star Wars brand.
>>11895511Sounds like we got a couple of bad boys working on this case
>>11895258There areTHREE lies in this post>yea they have improvedFirst lieYou say this shit and they haven't improved hence all the photos in this thread showing broken Mythic Legion figures, shitty QC errors, that have happened on a near yearly basis over a decade.>the generals here do very wellSecond lie.The Mythic Legion General used to have around 100 posters on an almost weekly basis from 2015 til around 2020. The Mythic Legion General slowly petered out until it was getting around 50 posters by 2020, due to the constant amount of people bitching about the contant amount of quality control problems the Mythic Legion line had and 4H's customer service being shit. Nevermind 4H fucking over their fans too, by their own stupid lies and poor business decisions (1:18 scale prices and fucking up the Power Lords launch).Anyway, in 2024, the Mythic Legion General died, due to 4H insulting their customers for complaining about the shitty QC (an infamous nearly hour long stream on youtube), and one of you shills needed to create a generic fantasy General where the majority of the talk is about other fantasy toylines now.A dead general is the opposite of it doing "very well">the same recycled photos from five years agoThird lie.There's only a few photos from before 2022. Most of them are from a 2024 wave that came with air pockets that made the figures extermely brittle. Since the Mythic Legion General died in 2024 and you guys were angry that your own broken Mythic Legion photos were "being used against you", you shills stopped posting the problems with your figures. So there's dearth of broken Mythic LEgion figures, unless i go outside of /toy/ to find people bitching about 2025 and 2026 Mythic Legion figures having QC problems, which you can find here >>11891190 here >>11891556 and here >>11893273
>>11895588nah everything you say is wrong, their live stream just now was perfect and there's new reveals for a new preorder campaign with a dozen characters but you're too much of a retard to follow what they're doing now and focus on the past because it's easy for a baby bitch such as yourself
>>11895511You sound like a fucking idiot
no neca 2019 king ghidorah? no neca skar king? no neca shimo? no neca minus zero godzilla or ghidorah? why are they sitting on the license?
>>11895664Why do you not understand how licensing works? You are so pathetic.
>>11895670oh you said neca had the licensing. now they suddenly don't?
>>11895601>all your facts are lies>your screenshots 10+ years of constant quality control problems and brittle plastics are ai>the hour long video where 4H insulted their fanbase for complaining about the shitty quality control never happenedplease continue proving that even 4 Horsemen's fanboys are as retarded as 4H themselves.Pic is from 4H's Cosmic Legion line, which again proves that 4 Horsemen's quality control is a problem with 4H themselves and not just the Mythic Legion line.
>>11895679They do have the license you retard, and you know they aren't putting out figures because of Playmates.
>>11895700Why would they pay tens of thousands of dollars for an action figure license and then not produce action figures because another company also has an action figure license?
>>11895713You've had this explained to you a dozen times and you still choose to act like a nimrod.
>>11895718I'm not whoever you think I am, but I am interested to hear your explanation because I don't understand why a struggling toy company would donate a huge sum of money to a billion dollar movie studio to not make action figures.
>>11895723>a struggling toy companyYou're trying too hard.
>>11895725No company with their head above water would threaten customers like NECA did with the Lab diorama.
>>11895700playmates, yes, the company that clearly owns godzilla...toho owns godzilla, and have multiple companies putting products out now.neca lost the license lol
>>11895723oh according to them, playmates and neca have an unwritten gentlemens agreement or some shit, so neca couldn't produce godzilla figures. you know, except neca lost the license in 2020
>>11895723He's a long-time troll and he's currently evading his ban. Just report his nonsense and keep it movin.
>>11895728Ah, so you're full of shit and resort to making things up. Right, right.
>>11895733They still have the Godzilla license. The Ben Cooper Godzilla costume and plushes and head knockers and so on all require it. Not that youbknow ANYTHING about toys.
>>11895754>The Ben Cooper Godzilla costumeHighly unlikely to be under the Godzilla action figure license and would be a seperate license only pertaining to the Ben Cooper costume.>plushes and head knockersDefinitely not the same license as the action figure license.
>>11895607>>11895679It's the mentally ill guy who keeps derailing threads ignore him and keep it on topic
>>11895728It's so wild
>>11895761Wrong again.
>>11895765It is wild that you would make a dumb claim like that.
>>11895767I didn't make a claim I said it's wild.Are you literally a bot or just retarded?Quit derailing threads go get a job, get some therapy and find happiness.
>>11895754neca themselves said they do not have access to the godzilla license, bro.
>>11895786I'm sorry you struggle with the reality that there are Godzilla products from Neca on shelves right now.
>>11895789and where's the new items? nowhere. cause neca lost the license.
>>11895766Prove it.
>>11895798Weird cause they have the license and put Godzilla merch out in the last couple years. Guess you don't know anything.
>>11895806ok, where's the new stuff celebrating his 70th? minus zero? sp? supernova? new empire? nowhere. cause they. lost. the license.
>>11895809They still have the license. I'm sorry that hurts your brain so badly.
>>11895811damn, if someone puts a trendmasters figure on a shelf, that means trendmasters owns the license. unlik neca, who announced. they do not hold. the godzilla license.
>>11895812You're so bent out of shape that you can't even keep your trolling together. Get over it, they still have the license, they are still producing Godzilla toys.
>>11895816>you can't typeok mr. youbknow>>11895754but hey, show me the new neca godzilla figures. they must've shown off new figures at all the toyfairs and comic cons, right?
>>11895818Never said anything about typing, see? You're making things up to get mad about.
aaaand no proof of neca figures of godzilla. thanks for confirming something we've known since 2020. that neca does not currently hold the godzilla license. wild.
>>11895821Other than the Godzilla merch in stores, so yeah, they do have the license. You should like, go outside.
this lil dude thinks just because a store has something on the shelf means the company owns the license. this logic dictates that if there's a trendmasters godzilla on the shelf, trendmaster still has access to the godzilla license. a kenner t-rex on a shelf means kenner still has the jurassic park license, ect.lil dude's delusional.
>>11895824>just because a store has something on the shelf means the company owns the license.That is how that works, yes. Do you really not know how...stores work?
>>11895827so if trendmasters has figures on a shelf, this means they own the license? despite trendmasters being bankrupt and out of business for almost 35+ years? great logic there lil dude.
>>11895828...You're the one that thinks people are sneaking toys into stores and putting them on shelves.
yeah that's wild dude. neca. lost. the. license. so unless neca's blatantly lying in this post they put out themselves, they ain't doing anything with the license.>>11895734
>>11895830Other than the fact that there's Godzilla merch from them that's been out and is on shelves since then, negating your tantrum.
>>11895833so neca lied? it's a company of liars? wow. or they're illegally using the godzilla licenses. someone should tell toho about that.
>>11895834Yeah, you should email Toho. Better yet, you should get on a plane and go to Japan and start screeching outside their building. Make sure to record it. Better get on it!
>>11895840i'd probably get the same answer i got from neca on twitter when i politely asked 'do you still hold the godzilla license' and they said 'no'.
>>11895843I'm sure you did, bud. Better get that plane ticket ready! Show everyone what a big boy you are!
more evidence to the site staff, this is wild. keep it up, lil bro.
>>11895821Not for action figures. Just for bobbleheads and plushies, which is a completely different license to the one held by Bandai, Playmates, Super7, Hiya, and Goodsmile. And even the Goodsmile license is likely only for "superdeformed poseable figures" or some such because that's how the licenses are usually worded.Either way, no company is paying for a license to make action figures and then not making them while 5 other companies make action figures for that license. Anyone that believes they would do that and expects the rest of us to believe this bullshit is a full blown retard.
>>11895860They stepped back so Playmates would stay off them doing as they saw fit with TMNT. It's literally why they were able to start getting away from the 2-pack system and why the line grew as vast as it did.
>>11895868Yes, they kept renewing a license for action figures and then deciding they wouldn't make action figures for that license because Playmates would let them make Ninja Turtles figures that the licensor had already given them the license to make.
>>11895868that's funny, cause viacom was letting them do it, not playmates. because, you know, playmates doesn't own the ninja turtles
>>11895879That's funny, cause Playmates was able to bring Super7's shit to a stall when they wanted, even force them to make drastic changes. You are adorably ill informed on the goings on with companies and the deals they make.
Neca is garbage and only the biggest faggots bend over and suck the company’s balls.
>>11894989So bizarre to make all new sculpts and still get the scale wrong.
>>11895890
>>11895884>Playmates was able to bring Super7's shit to a stall when they wantedThat's because Super7 were using the exact same designs as the vintage TMNT line, which was the justification they used to complain to Viacom.
>>11895884and everything you said is null and void, because playmates isn't some mafia tier bullshit. viacom owns the turtles and gets the final say.
>>11895898It is for Fortnite figures, which those are.
>>11895902And NECA kept paying for the Godzilla action figure license after getting Playmates off their back?Yeah, your story doesn't add up. Only a retard that was bad with money would try to claim a company would do that.
>>11895907They not the characters, they are Fortnite skins based on Fortnite game models with Fornite branding intended to be purchased by Fortnite players. Sorry, you don't know what you're talking about.
>>11895916like they did with godzilla! oh....wait...
>>11895918and not the fact that ben cooper's license is seperate from godzillas. mhmmm.
>>11895916>They only use the Fortnite style as a vehicle to get new versions of these characters out.And those versions come from Fortnite. The figures are not accurate to the source material. They are literally made for Fortnite players and marketed and sold as such.
>>11895913No, you keep lying and trying to pretend that NECA still holds the license to make Godzilla action figures.I mean, NECA announced that they no longer had the license to make Godzilla action figures right when the TMNT line really took off. So you expect us to believe that NECA actually renewed the license, didn't announce it to anyone, then made a deal with Playmates to not make Godzilla figures to keep them off their back, then continued to pay money to renew the license for half a decade, and then still not make Godzilla action figures after Playmates and everyone lost the TMNT license rendering the deal with Playmates null and void?If you wanted to claim NECA decided to not renew the Godzilla action figure license in 2020 which helped keep Playmates off their back regarding TMNT, that would make sense. But you are claiming that they do have the Godzilla license and continued to renew it despite the fact that they weren't making Godzilla figures due to some super secret under the table deal.I'm not trolling, I'm trying to make you wake up and realize your claims are batshit insane.
>>11895922Then they should be able to put out Fortnite Godzilla without a problem since they apparently have the license to do so.
>>11895935They are not the correct height within the context of their source material. The Ninja Turtles have been many different heights. NECA have released many different sized turtles. These are not in scale with their other Fortnite figures. They are out of scale. These are toys are for Fortnite players. Troll elsewhere, ban-evader.
>>11895935Also, saying "wrong again" does not prove me wrong? Everything I said there is correct. Screeching "wrong" is not proof nor is it a defense. You're literally just troll.
>>11895936I understand it, which is why I don't believe it. It's like a primitive Aztec tribe's explanation for where the sun goes during an eclipse. It's pants-on-head retarded to anyone that understands how a business operates. There is no way in hell Joel Weinshanker looked at the balance sheet, saw an expense for a license that NECA weren't making figures for, and allowed it to continue to be renewed for half a decade instead of letting it lapse.
>>11895947Well, what you don't understand, is that NECA sister companies and production of non-toy products like bobbleheads means that they actually have the action figure license and are simply choosing not to make them, despite the fact that every Target and Walmart carries competing Godzilla figures from both Playmates and Bandai. NECA simply chooses to not make the products they pay for the rights to make. You see, I know everything, and you? Haha, well, you know nothing. Oh? You want proof? Uhhhh you're a troll.
>>11886851neca
>>11895511>On another note - it seems Hasbro is trying to completely derail the Star Wars brandStar Wars has been off the rails without a conductor since the Disney acquisition.
>>11895686>Pic is from 4H's Cosmic Legion line, which again proves that 4 Horsemen's quality control is a problem with 4H themselves and not just the Mythic Legion line.weird because they're dropping another in stock sale for new product this friday same as last week that had new product and the week before that had new product. Why are you a retard and ignore all the product they release?
>>11896023This is /toy/ not /merch/. Nobody cares about bobbleheads and fridge magnets here. They no longer have the license to make Godzilla action figures because that is a separate license from plushies and anal beads and whatever other crumbs they are thrown.
>>11896069Bobbleheads are not toys. I didn't say plushies and Ben Cooper garbage weren't toys, so I'm not wasting my time on a retard that needs to resort to strawman arguments to distract from the fact that NECA no longer have the license to produce Godzilla action figures. Not figures of children wearing a vinyl smock with Godzilla printed on it. Not plushies. Action figures of the kaiju known as Godzilla.
>>11896089>You'd be surprised what's out there.I went outside and there were no Godzilla action figures on the shelves at Walmart or Target. I went back inside and went on The Neca Store and there were no Godzilla action figures on there. Neither of these things surprised me, because NECA do not have the license to make Godzilla action figures. They do have a license that allowed them to make an action figure of a child wearing a vinyl smock with Godzilla printed on it, but that is not a Godzilla action figure.
>>11896167Not the anon you were arguing with, dipshit.
>thread turned into a NECA general
>>11896089neca themselves said they don't have the license. lmfao
>>11896325They have *a* license, but not *the* license for action figures. You're not spending your last few years posting your bobbleheads and kidrobot plushes. You don't care about those items. You're just trolling. Nobody else has spent days defending any other company mentioned in this thread.
>>11896325neca says they don't got the license.>>11896369that's wild. neca says they don't have the license.
>>11896415that's so crazy, cause here, in this post, made by neca, on their official website, and sent out to people who buy through their website, states, they will no longer be making godzilla merchandise, because they lost the license.here, lemme help you understand it better.
When's 2019 NECA Ghidorah?
>>11896422>lost ages agoi never held the godzilla license to lose it. unlike neca.
>>11896422K, when's NECA Shimo then?
>>11896427Can you please stop arguing with the guy who thinks its okay and correct to list accessories that don't exist on toy package part counts? He's a troll and not arguing in good faith.
The worst company is the one that lies on its packaging.
>>11896442no, pretty sure neca announced they no longer have access to the godzilla license, unless you're calling neca liars.
>>11896494The items in the box do not match what the box says is included. The end.
>>11895998>a company who lost half it's fanbase by 2020 and then another half of its fanbase in 2024 by making a video to shit on its customers is actually doing wellok retard.And we know that it's at least half, because their videos used to get 2x as many viewers until they decided to mock their customers for the Mythic Legions being made of crumbly plastic in 2024.>b-b-but they keep on making products!Everything is made to order, because whatever fanboys they have left keep on giving them interest free loans.Given that we know that their videos get 50% the amount of viewers, it's a given that their sales have also dropped by half. Nevermind their remainder sales now take almost two weeks for their figures to "sell out" (they just say they ran otu of stock, because they put the same figures up on sale months later), whereas before 2020 they'd sell their remainders in less than an hour (actually sold out, because unless they put a new production order in place for the next year, the sold out figures wouldn't reappear again).So 4H is not only the worst company because they keep on cheaping out on quality control, year after year, but because they'er assholes and liars.If you like that they keep on selling more new toys, good for you, but 4 Horsemen has lost at least half its fanbase, because they got tired of shitty quality figures.
>>11896516The box inaccurately and deceptively lists items that are not in the box. That's all there is to it. Quit making excuses for sloppy work.
>>11896069>bobbleheads are all toys. Be more of a tourist.neca says otherwise. be more of a tourist.
>>11896574>Cry more pussy.you're the one getting mad over neca's own verbiage. all i did was quote their words and yours. saying im "falling for it" would imply that they're either deceiving customers or cheating the system if its actually a toy.
>>11896598I've never bought food that required the disclaimer "this is not food."
>>11896598did the united states government force neca to screw up the boxes of all four fortnite turtles or is that just neca's sloppy shop?
>>11896547>ok retard.>but 4 Horsemen has lost at least half its fanbase, because they got tired of shitty quality figures.damn can your bitch ass come up with anything new all you do is post the same five images from ten years ago and make up stats when it's been proven time and time again how much bigger and better four horsemen have been getting year by year
>>11896598>that stuff does not matter to anyone>all of that shit is just basic legal necessitiesso it does matter? why would legal nessecities not matter when it's required to clearly define what the product is, ie not a toy
>>11896608Play-Doh requires that disclaimer because people that think bobbleheads are toys might eat it.
>>11896622Why would I sue, I don't even buy neca product is that all you Americans care about? Do you need money all the time for health bills?
>>11896625that has nothing to do with sloppy and inaccurate copy editing
I'm not surprised American packaging needs legal written wording on the packaging, they banned kinder eggs after all yet still allow the sales of guns to anyone willing to pay right next to the check out.
>>11896625So the NECA copywriter was physically restrained by the US government from being able to correct the box before release? Did they get take to Alligator Alcatraz?
>>11896634their inaccurate and incorrect packaging is what's being talked about. it's unprofessional.
>>11896645>when the two extra hands got cut later on into productionWait, so NECA paid to tool the hands and then decided to save 0.00001 cents per figure by not manufacturing them?
So when is NECA doing 2019 and 2026 Ghidorah? Since they have the license to Godzilla.
>>11896645>They're not going to take time to change somethingsloppy and unprofessional company
>>11896652I mean, they stopped doing Godzilla Merch in August of 2020, then apparently, sat on and paid for the license for 6 years afterwards. Godzilla's license is already within the 100 million range, and they just kept shilling out that kind of money to hold onto the license?
>>11896661i actually do work a real job where i edit copy correctly and accurately every day, unlike neca. we have professional standards at my job. i even have standards for my posts, which is why i made sure to correct a previous typo. neca can't even do that for their products. that's why they're the worst toy company.
>>11896665Well, since they don't print the boxes while the tooling is being made and then store them for months during preproduction, they DID have plenty of time to change the erroneous information on the packaging.There is no excuse for not being able to change one digit on a box.
>>11896665yet other more professional companies make sure their packaging isn't inaccurate.
This is the same guy who saw a bootleg of a NECA Shin Godzilla and went 'That's such a good figure', isn't it?
>>11896672it's a pretty normal job. just because neca seemingly lacks a competent person in that role doesnt mean other businesses do too.
>>11896675That's funny, cause I can literally go back in the archive and find the exact post. You >peobably should be nicer to people.
>>11896682maybe Randy should close up his shop and get a real job too.
>>11896675>>11896686Infact, here you are, priasing a very obvious NECA bootleg.
>>11896682it's 10pm in my timezone. i'm off the clock and answering the topic of this thread. have you posted your thoughts on the worst toy company? or are you just crying and getting angry at everybody who mentions neca?
>>11896695Mmm, nope. That's you. Everyone else shat on the figure, except you, because I put NECA in the file name.
>>11896612>dumb lies2024 pictures aren't from ten years ago.Most of the images I've been posting are from 2 years ago, 1 year ago, and 6 months ago.Again, it's proof that 4H is the worst company because they've been ripping off their customers by cheaping out on quality control and using the cheapest plastics for over a decade.Not a coincidence that it's when 4H was struggling, btw. Before 2015, they were able to afford to make toylines on their own terms, without asking for interest free loans from their fanbase.pic is of them rushing production on their toys, so the mold lines not being fully shaved away, which impedes on articulation and the paint not being properly masked.
>>11896701you seem a bit mad, lil bro.
>>11896673>last minute change>change was decided during tooling which is a year or two before it hits the shelf>"IT WASN'T ENOUGH TIME TO CHANGE THE LIST OF CONTENTS ON THE PACKAGING BEFORE THE DEADLINE"Lol. No wonder it took them 5 months to react when customers started contacting them to let them know they had received an extra Donnie's Lab. Maybe NECA should hire some 3 toed sloths so they have some staff that move faster
>>11896706I know that 12 months is plenty of time to change 1 digit. Hasbro even managed to put a sticker over erroneous figure contents back in 2002, and that accessory was removed so late in production that some of the inner trays still had a slot for the removed accessory.And they had an even stricter deadline since it was a figure for the first wave of a newer movie line.
All I know is because of this blatant shill, I will no longer be buying NECA products.
>>11896701i convinced my boss, which is why i get paid for my work. do you have an on-topic post to contribute to the thread? what do you think is the worst toy company?
>>11896707I'm not the one trying to convince everyone that NECA has the license to make Godzilla action figures or that accessories that were never tooled were removed at the last minute.
>>11896716>They got everything the figures were pictured with.yet not everything the box says they come with.
bro's going nuclear. nobody mention elmo, ghidorah or godzilla's license
>>11896719i saw a new tickle me elmo at target the other day. if neca really doesn't make an elmo figure, that would really cement their worst company status.
>>11896716>If you knew anything you'd know not every figure line runs on the same scheduleI do, which is why I gave a 1-2 year time range.>And again, these figures were to meet a different deadlineSubmitting your homework on time but getting half of the answers wrong isn't going to get you an A.>this far into releaseThe tooling stage is how far into release? That was when they knew the hands wouldn't be included.The printing stage is how far into the release? That is latest point it should have been noticed and corrected. The only reason it wasn't noticed was because the copywriter didn't do their job properly.>they're not going to careAnd there we have it. They don't care.
>>11896738if neca didn't run such a sloppy shop, they'd get bent out of shape themselves for doing a rush job on not just one, but four different fucked up incorrect package designs. their lack of professionalism and care is why they are the worst toy company. which toy company do you think is the worst?
>>11896747>It's literally all the sameall four turtles list 6 extra hands and their different weapons. they fucked up the part count on all four. four different instances of sloppy copy. i know this because ive looked at the boxes, something neca didn't bother to do before shipping their sloppy product.
>>11896738>Nobody cares.Correction. Nobody that works at NECA cares. Well, almost nobody. You seem to care that a "single 4chan autist" is willing to call out NECA's laziness and lack of care.
>>11896753people don't usually describe the contents of their own post.
>>11896761So you are trolling. Thanks for admitting that.
>>11896761nice of you to use this off-topic post of yours to admit to trolling, but what toy company do you think is the worst? for me? it's gotta be neca due to their lack of care and attention in products they expect people to spend their hard earned money on.
>>11896769You are the one that admitted that you "like pointing out what a dipshit you are" instead of sticking to the thread topic, which is asking what people think the worst toy company is. I think it's NECA, and so do several other anons. And the only reason you are in this thread is to troll anyone that thinks NECA is the worst company, which is why you can't answer the other anon that asked what you think the worst toy company is.
I think NECA is the worst toy company because they say their toys are "for decoration purposes only"
>>11896785>And yet you want to turn it into a problemIt is a problem. If I buy a box of *anything* and the tiny number at the bottom of the box says it contains a certain weight or number of contents, and the actual contents of the box are less than what is stated, it is a problem. Only somebody trying to do damage control for the company that produced it would argue otherwise.
>>11896794they're actually only pictured with two >>11896794>the toys are pictured with the four hands onlinethey're actually only pictured with two alternate hands. and they only include two alternate hands. what they're pictured with online has nothing to do with what the package says when you find it on the shelf in the store.
>>11896802shame the text said six
>>11896794Just because you don't care and have such pathetically low standards doesn't mean the rest of us should.If my company makes fasteners, and designs a label for a box of 1000 bolts, but then only can find boxes that fit 50 bolts, we change the number on the label. It doesn't matter that everybody can tell the transparent plastic case definitely doesn't contain 1000 bolts. You label your products correctly.Like you said, NECA don't care.
>>11896802the two hands attached by default are not alternate hands. they are not included in the piece count. they are part of the figure.
>>11896802>They include four alternate handsThe picture shows two alternate hands. The ones on the figure aren't alternate hands. A figure that comes with an alternate heads contains an extra head that can replace the one on the figure, plus the one that is already on the figure.Everyone knows this.
>>11896788>"for decoration purposes only"well at least they admit it
>>11896809>Your fake company doesn't matter eitherYes, the company was hypothetical because you'd be hard pressed to find another company that is so lazy that they refused to change the list of contents on a package when the decision to omit the contents was made so early in the preproduction phase.
>>11896818then how do you explain this? clearly they consider the hands attached to this figure as part of the figure, and not part of the piece count. did they get this one wrong? sloppy and inconsistent company with no standards.
>>11896817The stock head and the alternate head don't change what they are called when you swap them, so why would the hands?
>>11896817they remain the default hands that came on the figure. they don't become two additional parts to add the the piece count.
>>11896816They may lie about their accessory counts, but at least neca is honest about producing non-durable goods
>>11896899They didn't lie about anything. And you still leaning on some legales wording is pathetic as ever.
>>11897415The fact that NECA needed to lean on some legalese wording like "non durable goods" as a defence for their toys being so prone to breaking is pathetic.
>>11897559It's wild that they say themselves that their alleged toys are only for decoration purposes. If I saw a NERF gun that was only for decoration, I'd think it was pretty shitty.
NECA: breaks in the box, not in your hand
>>11897581>Joints are only for aesthetic purposes and not intended to be moved. Do not attempt to pose figure.
SHF. Even redditors had enough
>>11897559Except they don't. They don't just make toys, which is why they have that designation you dolt.
>>11897581It's wild that you even think that's what that means. Moreso that you waste your life getting mad about it.
Worst company in terms of what? QC? Distribution? Customer service? Trolling fans? Ripping off suppliers? Unfulfilled preorders? Not paying off debts? Shafting employees? Or otherwise shady business practices?There's only one company that covers all those bases and more.Shocker ToysFortunately they're dead and I don't think Geoff Beckett has resurfaced anywhere. Some say Megalopolis/DNA Toys teamed up with him but rumors are unfounded at best.
>>118985834H does all this, except maybe shafting their employees.And unlike Shocker Toys, 4H is still in business and has been having shit QC, shit distribution, shit customer service, trolls fans, rips off suppliers, unfilled orders, not paying off debts, and other shady business practices for a decade or so.Nobody is worse than 4H.
>>11897623Is this some advanced form of shitposting? Because at no point in that entire post did he actually say anything. Shills for another company? Bots attempting to outrage bait?
>Subjectanon STILL seething over the 4HI almost wonder if he's actually a reverse-psychology paid shill for them; anyone with any actual criticisms of 4H products dare not post them for fear of being associated with him and his delusional ramblings. Kinda genius if so.4H certainly isn't even close to the worst (active) company though. That dishonour goes to the unholy trinity of shitty toy companies; NECA, Super7 and McFarlane. All three have similar issues; shonky QC, don't scale with anything, shitty paint, poor engineering, overpriced for what they are and awful business practices. I'd say NECA might be the worst because McFarlane's 40K line is decent for customs fodder if you only buy figures of big guys (Marines etc) and avoid the oversized humans, and Super7's 1/18 GI Joe stuff is kinda nifty for what it is whilst NECA literally does not make anything good at all.
>>11898965you are too low IQ to process it. Redditors could but you couldn't. Stop eating glue
>>11899876>you're ruining the board because i need to defend the worst toy company by making 4 posts for every post you make to drown you out with samefagging and trollings!Wow, you sure are able to defend 4H fucking over their fans for over 10 years making toys that are nearly expensive as Japanese collector lines but with 2002-era articulation, shittier QC, customer service that ignores you for nearly a year, brittle plastics, and made an hour long video to mock their fans who received a a Mythic Legion wave that crumbled like doritosYou're just redirecting your anger at 4 Horsemen and their brittle Mythic Legion figures at me, because you're afraid of 4H making another hour long video to shit on their fanbase. Don't want to upset those uneducated retards, huh?
>400+ replies>ctrl + F>no blokeesheh, chadkees wins again
>>11899984>>bullshitSo you're denying that 4H didn't shit on their customers in an hour long streaming video to mock them because they dared complain about a 2024 Mythic LEgion wave having air holes everywhere?Are you denying that the Mythic Legion toyline wasn't full of quality control issues for almost 10 years straight, all the way into 2026 with their newest bear?Are you denying that the Mythic Legion toyline isn't engineered like a 2002 toyline?Are you denying that despite having 2002-era engineering that they're charging for their toys like a Japanese collectors toyline with 2x as many joints?Because all of this got most of the Mythic Legion fanbase to actually quit the toyline. This happened, no matter how much you want to lie and cope.And calling me an astroturfer is hilarious, because i have the most genuine opinion on /toy/, since i own more toys than most anyone here. I offer fair comparisons with a multitude of lines and hate when a company rips you off. Someone like you though, why would anyone want to defend a company that is literally doing a disservice to their customers like 4H does?Only people who work for the company would defend shit like this or pretend it doesn't happen. Like you.
>>11900664>because i have the most genuine opinion on /toy/
>>11899432>NECA literally does not make anything good at all.Imagine being such a fucking loser you make this kind of claim. Especially since they make some of the best toys around and even reignited the TMNT craze. You are an incredibly dumb, bitter asshole.
>>11902304>Especially since they make some of the best toys aroundFucking LMAO. They make toys so bad they constantly get licenses pulled and then blame the license holders for being "hard to work with".
>>11902373No they don't, actually. You don't seem to understand how anything works.
the answer is obviously neca. they don't even make toys, they make decorations>>11902491so prove him wrong or answer the op or quit trolling
>>11902624The answer is you're a really dumb troll. NECA makes toys, you are just a psycho.
