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What a day for StarCraft

>Expansive 1/25 scale line from Joytoy with plans for figures, creatures, vehicles, and maybe even buildings
>More focused 1/18 line from Jt for the more iconic units and characters
>New open world SC game announced from Blizzard
>Plus high end 1/12 line from another Chinese company, first release is SC2 zealot, next release is SC1 marine

We eating good SC bros.
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Ghosts are looking incredible
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I'm planning to go all in with those little niggas.
Never had a single JoyToy, but I already see a really cool diorama potential with these.
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How much?
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>>11897938
Basically 33 euro per one.
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>>11897946
which scale?
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>>11897937
I've got a small handful of Warhammer stuff but that was always cope for not having SC toys anyway. I too am all in.

>>11897938
>>11897947
They're around $22 per 1/25 in China but with shipping/importing them it's more like $30 each. Somewhat expensive for these small infantry guys but they come with a decent amount of stuff, and more importantly the small scale will pay off when it comes to the larger units and vehicles. They'll actually exist and should be way more affordable in 1/25.
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Zealots and Marines include a neat little base
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Marine set includes weapons and heads that are obviously a standard marine, Raynor and Tychus, which means repaints have got to be coming.
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>>11897934
Shame it's still SlopCraft, so it looks retarded and is attached to a dogshit IP managed by one of the worst AAA slop companies in the world.
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Hydra has spines and creep base but the base could be way better IMO, could have been slimier and not had the border.
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>>11897962
Yeah bla bla whatever man, every company is dogshit and every IP is managed by retards. At least a company known for cranking out a massive amount of toys in a short amount of time with relatively decent quality is taking it on.
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>>11897934

This is the only Starcraft figure I care about
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All well and good but I’m going to need buildings before I even think about buying figures.
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>>11897975
You're in luck, word around the campfire is a Terran Barracks is already in development.

>>11897974
I'm also excited for this. I hope it lights up like that guys customs. We get a feast after decades of famine.
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>>11897974
More info on this? I always like the SC1 marine design.
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>>11897986
It's going to be made by Hwang Miniatures, someone that made SC customs for years, as part of a new high end 1/12 line. Sc2 Zealot is the first release, just under $100 and comes with parts for 3 different looks. They have previewed the Sc1 marine and a light up, rotating pylon. They do not currently have western distribution and you need to order directly off of some Asian websites.
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>>11897986
Forgot image
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>>11897990
>cool I used to play StarCraft when I was 10
>don't want any figures but I guess I’ll look at the thread
>see that pic
Damn it
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>>11898001
>one of us
>One of Us
>ONE OF US
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Really happy for you guys! Glad Blizzcon is treating you well.

Still hoping for a decent, affordable 1/12 Overwatch line. You guys are keeping the dream alive.
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>>11898027
I've been waiting for a decent Starcraft line for 28 years, hang in there bro

I do think all of this signals that Blizzard is way more open to licensing stuff out easier, they've notoriously been fags about their stuff for a long time, but there's been a ton more merch lately. I don't care if it's just profit driven nonsense if the flood gates are open at least some of it is likely to turn out decently!
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>>11898027
Wasn't hiya doing at least one of the characters? That will presumably be a line. You also got a few characters from Hasbro and Figma (i guess this doesnt fit the affordable requirement), so thats better than a lot of other series.
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>>11898027
>>11898094
Yeah Hiya showed it off a while ago
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>>11897937
Joy Toy does great figs, I have a bunch of their Dark Source and TMNT stuff. Though they seem to jump around scale randomly.
I'm sure the bigger stuff will be rad if they do them like their mechs.
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>>11898027
>"Still hoping for a decent, affordable 1/12 Overwatch line."
Hasbro already did this???
If those shits are fuck off expensive now, I'll sell you mine for less than retail...
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>>11897938
Gundamit prices:
>Marine 3-pack $72.99
>Hydralisk 3-pack $65.99
>Zealot 3-pack $71.99
>Ghost 2-pack $48.99
Haven't seen a single pack Marine, need some with standard rifles to actually army build, I dont like that sniper rifle and shotgun variants.
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>>11898145
>Starts with the same boring posterchild OW 2 shit
Dead on arrival
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>>11897989
Spoonfeed me on how the hell I am going to both keep my eye out for and buy the Marine please. I tried searching for the company, but I came up with nothing. Explain it like I’m 80 IQ, thanks
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>>11898526
No u dumb american
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>>11898526
Ok retard go to Instagram type in hwang miniature follow the account
Use ai to scan any of the photos they post, use any of the slightly sketchy international websites to buy their stuff currently only the zealot has gone up and pre orders are sold out.
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>>11898526
just wait till they end up on a site you already use.
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>>11897936
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>>11897934
>1/25
Interesting choice of scale but makes sense for an RTS. Kinda wish it was 1/24 as there's a fair bit of 1/24 scaled models out there (notably cars) for dioramas and stuff but eh, close enough. Might nab some Zerg, I've never played SC in my life and I suspect I would be shit at it but I love alien bugs. Would definitely buy some Roaches, they're cool.
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>>11899435
>I would be shit at it but I love alien bugs.
as long as you don't play online it's great fun.
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>>11899350
I haven't played the game in a while, why there are 2 Ghost variants? One made with transparent plastic would make sense to me, this, I don't know why.
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>>11898027
1/12 only autism is mental illness. I'm glad you'll never get anything good and all your garbage is made in vietnam and crumbles in your hands.
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>>11899483
All my guys are in that scale. Can't be helped.
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>>11899483
If there is no need for vehicles then 1:12 is totally fine. Starcraft line in 1:12 would kida suck as it would be limited in what we can get, but for something like fighting games it's good.
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>>11899491
just... get something else. Not every toyline needs to be compatible with other toylines. christ.

can't believe i'm now seeing 1/18fags meltdown over starcraft being small when everything besides basic infantry is fucking HUGE.
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>>11898480
>Starting with one of the most popular characters to guarantee sales and gauge interest in a new line
Wow! Shocking! It's almost like they want to make money or something retard.
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>>11899350
NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED
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>>11897934
>1/25 scale
So like 3 inches? That's not big enough.
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>>11901395
more like 2.5"

Supremely overpriced and since it's Joytoy, pobably fragile as fuck.
They want to charge Japanese prices at half the quality.
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>>11901466
Go away Subjectanon.
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>>11897934
Isn't hydralisk's scale fucked up? It should be bigger.
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>>11901699
welcome to Joytoy not understanding scale.

This is why the Warhammer 40k thread is dead, because they kept fucking up the scale to the poitn that everyone's old toys were no longer in scale with the new ones.... and the old ones weren't properly in scale either.

Hydralist's head should be at around the same height as the marines' heads, btw.
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>>11902139
They go with 1/25 to properly scale bigger units, and still fucking it up somehow. How hard is to preplan a toy line. With Zerg size differences in same untis wont be an issue, as they are bio units, but if they fuck up Terran or Protos it's over.
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>>11901395
>>11901466
Fuck off you goddamn retards
Diaclone stuff is 1/65 and a pack of a few of their tiny figures with a super tiny vehicle is $50. There's a point with toys where small size with high complexity becomes just as expensive as slightly larger toys.

This line will scale better exponentially, so yes while the smallest units like marines and lings etc won't be much cheaper at 1/25 vs 1/18, things like siege tanks and ultralisks will be much smaller and more affordable. For example the tank will probably land somewhere between $120-150, whereas if it were 1/18 it would be $200-300. They have said that even buildings are in development, sure as fuck wouldn't be getting those in 1/18.

>>11901699
>>11902139
>>11902184
Now this absolutely does deserve some criticism. They've said they're fudging scale on some units to be closer to in game unit scale vs "in universe" scale but there's already signs they're not being consistent with it. It does make sense to fudge things in some areas because SC units get *so* big they wouldn't be able to make them regardless of scale, and you do want to make sure an Ultra is way bigger than a Hydra etc, but it feels very wrong here. That said Hydralisk and most of the smaller infantry units are going to get a 1/18 version as well so that will probably actually be closer to 1/25 scale.
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>>11899350
That's a big missile
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>>11902256
I'm totally OK with in-game sizes as real scale would be just ridiculous and outright mpossible to do. But I want them to be somewhat accurate. Hydralisk should be much bigger. If we are going to be forced to mix two different scales, where you need some units in 1/25 and others in 1/18, it's going to be a shitfest.
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>>11902340
I agree it's not ideal, I'd almost be okay with all infantry esque units being the same size, but they're already fucking it up by having 1/25 marauders supposedly being fucking huge. So now we'll have undersized hydras but oversized marauders. Either they should all be roughly 3 inches, or they should have at least approximations of their sizes. Not both.

ALL THAT BEING SAID we are getting so much so quickly after literally 30 years of drought that I'm willing to overlook some inconsistency. This is an exciting time, I'll make my criticisms here and there and I hope there's a chance of adjustments in the future but I am still all in on this line regardless.
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>>11902388
Where do you get so much new info about this line? Their official instagram doesn't show much.
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>>11902420
He's just making shit up
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>>11902340
>ridiculous and outright mpossible to do.
LOL wut

There's nothing ridiculous or impossible about it.
It's purely just joytoy fucking up and making up excuses, because they're charging outrageous prices because they want to pretend the cost of producing goods in China is the same as Japan and that their products are equally as good as Japan.

The scale problem was fixed over a hundred years ago, so we've been capaable of producing anything scale since the pantograph was invented and now digitizing sculpts has made it infinitely easier.

>There's a point with toys where small size with high complexity becomes just as expensive as slightly larger toys.
This is just cope. It's literally mental gymnastics to justify why a company is charging high amounts of of money.
We've seen how American companies can produce something cheap with the same features if they think there's a market for it. It's the same cope when weeaboos were claiming that pinless joints were impossible to make for under $40... or faceprinting or inner shoulder joints or ankle swivels or a dozen of other copes they thought was unique to high priced japanese collector lines.

Also, if they make a 1:18 hydralisk to be in scale with the 1/25 figures means the 1:18 scale hydralisk wouldn't actually be 1:18 scale either. So now they're fucking over the 1:18 collectors.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
They should have just done it right the first time and made everyone happy.

They're just doing the same mistakes that they did with their Warhammer 40k line. So i hope someone else picks up the license.
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>>11902725
>So i hope someone else picks up the license.
look at this fucking retard jesus christ how do you even live
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>>11902725
>That's just cope
Oh look, another retard who thinks they know anything about manufacturing but they actually know nothing about manufacturing
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>>11902813
>well this company charging $100 for 1/25 MUST mean that it costs a lot to produce
Again, this is the same cope that weeaboos used to make about ankle pivots/swivels, not realizing shit like that existed on older American toys before expensive japanese collector lines existed.
It's the same cope weeaboos used about face printing, despite that technology already being in use since the 00s on children toys and then was adapted a year later by western companies in more complex ways without raising the costs of their toys.

Like i said, companies like Joytoy just looks at what Japanese companies are able to get away with and release shit at half the quality for the same price, despite being waaaay cheaper to do since China is a mudhut country with literal slave labor.

>>11902730
>you're only allowed to buy from joytoy, so how dare you wish for another company to offer better options at more affordable prices!
whatever shill
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>>11902725
>There's nothing ridiculous or impossible about it.
Lore unit scale is pretty bonkers, look at the pic rel. to see how big the Ultralisks are. Battlecruisers have a size of a small city. Terran SCVs lore wise are almost 3 times higher than Marines.

I never had a JoyToy before, POed those, so have no idea about their quality/price ratio. All I know about them is:

Positives:
>they produce stuff really fast, in large amounts. From a preview to a release it takes months not years.
>they do huge ass units like vehicles which is great
>stuff seems relatively cheap - I'm used to collesting overpriced crap so this is just my point of view
Negatives:
>they fuck up the scale real bad in some cases, making your collection look like a mismatch of miltiple separate lines
>I hear about their flagile plastics quite often
>while their WH40k line seems diverse, it's not. All they do is marines from one chapter or another. Basically no other factions, orks have just a few models no longer available for purchase. But it may be that warhammerfags just don't buy anything other than their toilet seat marines.
Just like every toy company, has it's ups and downs. I"m about to witness them myself in few months I guess.
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>>11902868
scale can be all over the place, but based on this pic >>11902340 they're not even getting the game height right with the 1/25 figures.
The problem here is Joytoy doesn't want to pay for bigger molds, since that would drive the costs up to beyond the price of the other figures they've announced.
IT's basically the same shit that Jazwares did with their Halo line and how the Brutes are so undersized, but Jazwares has a good excuse, since Jazwares is purposely making a children's line that needs to stay below a certain budget to make it affordable for kids to buy with their allowance or parents to get it as an impulse buy. Whereas Joytoy is selling this shit to adults and their prices are higher than other adult collector toylines in larger scales.

So here they are, skimping out, because don't want to pay more to pay for molds that would obviously cost more than the space marines and alien elf, while charging prices where you expect a company to not be pulling any stops.

pic is a 1:18 scale military vehicle that is much larger than land vehicle in Starcraft, yet it costs only $80 despite being made for adult collectors, by a tiny company that is pretty much some guy's garage, which means that numbers produced may not even reach a thousand units per color. extremely low production numbers, yet, the price pretty sane still.
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>>11902906
That vehicle has no paint on it, a lot of vehicles are cheap for that reason.
Maybe they don't think customers will pay for a larger figure, or will buy less of them. Their TMNT line had larger and smaller figures with varying prices.
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>>11902909
>Maybe they don't think customers will pay for a larger figure
Whatever reason you want to give, the figure is still very costly for what you're getting.
It just looks like they're cheaping out on the molding process, staying under whatever the mold limit is to keep it at the same production cost as the already expensive space marines and elflords. they're pulling the same thing that Jazwares or Hasbro does with their childrens line to make it inexpensive for kids... but Joytoy is charging waaaay more, like they're made in Switzerland (and there's a reason why Europe doesn't have any action figure lines) instead of China.

And the vehicle wouldn't get twice as expensive just to add paint. paint still doesn't rival mold costs, even if it was completely hand painted. Those Acid Rain vehicles don't even cost as much as >>11902256 was trying to claim and they're charging an extra premium for their gloopy weathering to the point that their 1:18 figures cost more than the 1:12 figures using the same designs.
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>>11901699
This is my take. If JoyToy needs a consultant I'm here.
>Marines ankles look limited as fuck
>shields should be attached to a bicep with a ballpeg. In-game they have a shield and hold two handed rifle.
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We’re so close to a Zergling pack, bros… so close to being able to post a pic instead of typing “kek”

What a time to be alive and a Starcraft fan. I will be buying a set to support the troops.
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>>11902962
I already posted this exact image direct to the guys at joytoy, they don't GAF
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>>11902826
Tldr or literally any of your other posts after the first line. I am actually in toy manufacturing. You don't know what you're talking about even though you *really* think you do.
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>>11902725
This is unrelated, but when did they make a 5-ish inch cain?
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>>11903655
That's the hiya toys cain, came out 3 or 4 years ago but still can easily be had.
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>>11903564
>my dad is the president of nintendo
That's a cool story bro, but instead of claiming this shit, how about some credentials or real world examples?

You know, sorta like how i was able to use examples of how weeaboos bullshit about how they believe shit like ankle pivots or pinless joints were some super duper expensive technology, yet were done by cheaply by children toy companies making kiddy budget toys.

Here's another real world example how mini toys don't need to be buttrape priced. The guy who made this Kickstarter figured out he could making a living selling this minipilot for less than the price of a budget children's 1:18 figure or you could get the exo-armor for twice the price (ie, the price of a standard 1:18 collector figure)
And this is from a EUROPEAN, so their production costs are going to higher than a company from America, much higher than Japan, and exponentially higherer than China.
>-b-=b-but everything is made with slave labor in China!
doesn't matter, because the people who design and sell their toys still need to eat and sell their shit in their home country, thus raising costs

So again, you're coping with kindergartener excuses.
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>>11902725
Are you dumb? Japanese figures are made in China and they charged even more.
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>>11903912
NTA but comparing apples and oranges makes it harder to tell if they're overpriced.
From what I can tell online those actually look like picrel. The packaging is a plain brown box, the guy did the prototyping and design for free, and there's no license to pay.

If you compare Joy Toys 1/18 figures to Acid Rain 1/18 figures, they're much cheaper. Like sometimes half the price.
JoyToy already has 1/25 scale figures in their Dark Source line that are essentially the same thing as the characters like the Terran Ghosts. If you slap two of those together, add in extra hands, two clear stands, a larger main stand, a big painted rocket, and licensing fees, that seems like it matches.
Like TMNT, I do think they're expensive but also premium. People want the small paint details.
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>>11903978
sounds like you didn't know that the guy tried to start a real toyline. He did all the math, had a factory lined up, and got all the quotes to start his toyline based on the prices I talked about.
The line did not get kickstarted though, because maybe he sucked at marketing it or there isn't enough interest in western mecha. Or maybe because it wasn't 1:18 scale.

>If you compare Joy Toys 1/18 figures to Acid Rain 1/18 figures, they're much cheaper.
And Hiya makes toys much cheaper than both of them, and are higher quality too. Acid Rain only charges as much as it does because it models itself after 3a's World War Robot line, hence the 1:12 line costing less than the 1:18 line because it features normal paint apps instead of the gloop.
Joytoy think it's Japanese, hence charging as much as other japanese lines, but at worse quality.
Whereas Hiya wants to be American, hence getting all the Diamond distribution deals (still seems to based on some upcoming Godzilla figures) and being much cheaper like American toys are. So they made better figures, made of better plastics, and prices that are 33% cheaper than Joytoy, if not half price.

So Joytoy is very much just bilking everyone.

>>11903655
1:18 Kain was made by Hiya Toys. Was in the Robocop line. I also got an Ed with his cute little toes and a button that tells you that you have 20 seconds to comply and some screeching noises.
The Kane also comes in a variant with the monitor screen head and damage weathering.

The electronics didn't make Ed cost more than Cain and they both cost less than all of Joytoy's larger figures, while also feeling and looking higher end.
They're no longer cheap though, because it's 4 years after they first came out, thus retailers who still carry it are probably just resellers. Still worth the higher price though.
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>>11903978
>>11903992
You are an absolute retard so it is literally not worth my time. Your "example" figure is of a failed line that did not get produced and now the guy sells 3D prints of them. The kickstarter did not fund because it's goal to make only 2 or 3 mechs with 2 pilots was half a million dollars. This is not a marketing failure because you can literally count on one hand the number of toy related KS that have reached those heights. The reason the figures were supposed to be somewhat affordable was because a)it was 6 years ago, things were significantly cheaper even then and b) he was banking on selling enough of them to unlock slightly cheaper production costs.

So thanks for literally proving my point that you're a fucking moron who doesn't understand anything and the one example you provided was of an old failed line that didn't even get produced because he couldn't get the numbers to work in a real world scenario, because making toys is expensive and you have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>11904047
You can tell how out of date his nonsense is because he still thinks producing toys in China is cheap. There's a reason every major toy company has worked to leave over the last 20 and establish hubs in other countries that are actually still affordable.
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>>11897934
>sc2
zzz
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>>11904047
>>11904053
Looking at prices on BBTS, one point I'll give him is that licenced HIYA 1/18 figures are a bit cheaper than say a similar 1/18 Dark Source figure by Joy Toy.
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>>11904056
This is pretty meaningless. Hiya toys in general has higher prices than joytoy across the board. Big bad is one overseas retailer with notoriously off prices since they bake in a lot of their shipping costs into their prices and a lot can happen in between China and a US based third party retailer.

In the soley production side part of it things it can be a hundred different things from hiya producing certain figures in greater numbers, to something as simple as supply chain discrepancies between two separate companies that operate in two different cities and have entirely different industrial contacts. As you specifically brought up licensed toys licensors can and will demand certain margins or price points or even in some cases price breaks in order to agree.

There's countless factors but the idea that all toys of a similar size should be capable of being the same price as the cheapest figures to ever be produced is frankly insane, and you can see evidence of this across the entire toy industry as well as across almost every other industry in existence.
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>>11904047
>my dad said you're retarded & he's the president of nintendo
I almost believe that he is, because you're acting like everyone's been too afraid to call you a stupid retard or else lose nintendo privileges

Again, the guy did the math, so he can eat and live in western Expensive Europe AND buy himself PS5 games from the profit of making his toys. He priced his pilots BELOW the cost of 1:18 budget children toys OF THE TIME. Star Wars and other kiddy 1:18 figures that were being sold while his kickstarter was running were $12.
So when the costs for producing goods went up, ALL other costs would go up too, because all things being equal, the math would still work out to his toys costing below Star Wars and other kiddy 1:18 figures. So when Star Wars toys went to $14, his toys would still cost below $14.
There's NO REASON the costs for his toys would specifically go up JUST FOR HIM

>>11904064
It's not meaningless, because you're just a stupid retard who's coping, trying to pretend Joytoy isn't overcharging everyone, as if they were as good as Japanese toy makers, despite making products at half the quality.
I can tell you're a third worlder, because you don't understand that both Joytoy and Hiya have (had?) official distribution in the US through. Diamond was one of the biggest distributors for toys in the US, which is what BBTS used for them, so Joytoy's prices were officially higher than Hiya's.
Most American stores have contracts through distributors and aren't allowed to order many lines outside of officlal distribution due to how licenses work. So they aren't importing shit like your native filipino toy shop

>>11904056
>Dark Source
You shouldn't compare a nobody license like this to Hiya's globally expensive and highly recognizable licensed toys of Star Trek, Alien, Godzilla, and/or Robotcop, because these are a hundred times more expensive to license than Dark Whatever. So despite paying way more for their licenses, Hiya's figures are still cheaper
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>>11904511
>blablabla I'm a gay retard
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>>11904511
Are you really still trying to use an unproduced toyline from 6 years ago as proof that toys should be cheaper?

Like... Really? This isn't a bit?
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>>11904511
>Dark Source
If you read that closer, I was agreeing with you for that reason, since Dark Source is their own IP.
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>>11904675
again, someone who planned the toyline based his prices on what factories of the time quoted him. He did the math, in order to run a profitable business in europe, and that's how much his collector line that would sell about a thousand units (not hundreds of thousands or millions like Hasbro) was being priced at.
This is beyond theoretical, he already had a factory lined up.

Again, because prices went up across the board, there's no reason his toys wouldn't remain below everyone else, all things being equal.

Or do you have some evidence toward the contrary, besides your dad is the president of nintendo? Some sourced article about factories charging an extra 50% on anything below 1/18 scale starting in 2021 because they're actually shrinking 1:12 toys with pym particles and pym particle mining has gotten too expensive?
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>>11904701
lmao
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>>11904701
You cracked the case mate. The toy business isn't a business, it's a racket, and the reason the man from Europe isn't making production toys at all in the past 6 years with his iron clad super cheap business model is because all the other toy companies are a mafia who got together and threatened him and his chain smoking cat that if he ever did anything approaching real toy production again they'd burn him down in the spaghetti factory. Real slow and painful like.
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>>11904793
No, it's because the KS didn't succeed due to people not giving a shit about his KS.

Again, the guy planned it out, did the math, and it's proof that anything smaller than 1/18 doesn't automatically cost as much as something much larger.
Complexity matters, but the fact is, the size of molds matters too AND the time it takes to cut through the material to create the castings. Obviously, something smaller takes less time to cut, hence smaller toys generally costing less, especially when the toy company isn't trying to rip you off like Joytoy does.

pic of 1:24 scale minis that didn't cost as much as 1:18 figures. About half price.
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So is StarCraft just woke warhammer? Looks pretty gay desu
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>>11904830
>pic of 1:24 scale minis that didn't cost as much as 1:18 figures. About half price.
didnt mega bloks fail? blokees seems to be doing a lot better and cost even cheaper
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>>11904830
I'm not saying I disagree with you about them being overpriced but
>the guy planned it out, did the math, and it's proof
Half of all businesses fail in the first five years, unforeseen costs being one of the major reasons. "I'll just keep margins razor thin" means you have no buffer if you don't sell as much as you expect.
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>>11905131
No warhammer is just gay StarCraft for morons that need to think about moves for 10 minutes and then use dice and shit to decide what happens. Starcraft is one of the most skill based games ever made and was one of the key benchmarks for years used for machine learning and AI.
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>>11905132
Slopees aren't even the same type of toy. Slopees just started, too.
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>>11904830
Megabloks figures were sold at the largest toy retailers in the world. Walmart, target, Amazon. Joytoy is an import toymaker selling primarily direct to consumer and through small third party boutique online retailers.

I don't even know why I'm bothering responding anymore you're so fucking dumb
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>>11905392
Bazinga
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>>11905254
The point of the matter is that all these businesses did the math and figured out that those are the prices that they'll sell their products in the market that they're going to sell them at.
Like i said earlier, companies like JAzwares and Hasbro (and Mega Bloks) expect ot sell hundreds of thousands to millions of figures, wherea a one person company who made the Tecco figures expects to sell MAYBE a thousand.
When any of these products failed, it was because of lack of interest, not their pricing that caused their products to fail.
And saying "razor thin margins" is a laugh especially for large corportations. They're padding that shit well and someone like Tecco wouldn't do that either, since that's his livelihood. Food companies might do that though.

>>11905548
Someone who did all the work figured out the price for his mini figures to make a living off of it, while you're a retard who is telling /toy/ is the president of nintendo so everyone should listen to you.
Joytoy is definitely bilking you if a tiny company like Tecco that's located in western euro did all the make a living at much lower prices.
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>1/25
will they be smaller than vintage line star wars? might be able to use them for the star craft board game.
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>>11906113
Vintage Star wars is a big smaller than 1:18 scale, so roughly 1:19 scale.

These minis are basically megablok size
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Most anticipated releases? I’d go crazy for a set of Zerglings, A Goliath, Dark/Normal Templars, and maybe even a Viking if it will transform from ground to air. Obviously Siege Tanks or even a Thor would be cool but likely going to be a bit too big for my shelf/pricy.
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>>11907591
Need a light?
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>>11902340
>forced
Move the Hydralisk closer to your camera until it's at a height you like. It won't solve how horribly off-model it is though.
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Why are the hydralisks always shown as melee units? Even in the game cutscenes, they are melee and only shoot spines off-screen.
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>>11909373
because it looks cooler

I played SC when it first came out. I played it the fuck out to the point i was undefeatable until brood war came out. IT was my main game until RTCW came out and never played SC2 until 8 years ago.
So despite being a huge initial fan, i don't actually know what their attack is supposed to be and have always assumed they just spat barbs out of their mouth.
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>>11907591
>>11907591

Buildings and vehicles so big they're playsets are my #1 desire. They've said they're working on buildings as well, I hope they have some interior functions and aren't just oversized bricks. Like imagine the barracks opens up and has the suit gantry from the sc2 opening cinematic.
It would never happen but I'd love a spawning pool that functions like a motu Slime pit. Lights up green and has slime in the center and you can put a bunch of zerglings crawling out of it.

Also want a Battlecruiser that opens up and has a couple of the areas from wings of liberty inside like a millennium falcon toy.

As for figures?
Umojan marine. These are the white high tech marines seen guarding kerrigan in Heart of the Swarm.
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>>11909833
basically, you want a real toy company to make some Mighty Max or Micro MAchines type playsets.
So anyone but Joytoy.
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>>11909892
This would also be very cool.
But Joytoy is more than capable and already showing a lot of signs of doing things close to what I've described.
They have made extremely large vehicles with interiors for other lines, since SC is in a smaller scale they could easily do the same here.
In general I would like a small scale starcraft line that leans into more toyetic play functions vs strictly display based, but I feel that way about almost all toylines and will take what I can get, especially where StarCraft is concerned.
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>>11909914
If Joytoy were capable, they would have made something like that already.

Hipstershit wannabe companies like the one that makes Acid RAin toys expanded in only a few years to make stuff like this heman/zoids wannabe that also turns into this outpost looking thing.
... and knowing all the stuff they've made, makes me think that Toy Alliance do a far better job at a Starcraft line than anyone else.
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>>11909833
I'm ok with buildings being just big shoe boxes. Only things I want from them is to look good, store figure accessories, maybe having lights, but most likely they would be battery powered so I would have mixed feelings about it. I wish for central power adapter connectable to an outlet or at least a powerbank. Every building could be connected to it. Wires I can hide, but I hate replacing batteries.

Anyways, for Terrans I want 4 buidlings:
- supply depo
- bunker
- missile turret
- barracks with a reactor or techlab
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>>11910009
Replace supply depot with command center and I'm on board.

I just want them to be badass. They're already going to big, they're going to be kind of expensive, so I'd rather they be a little more expensive and have some fun features like an interior (and lights, absolutely would be awesome) to give more play and display options. Like I'd rather pay $250 for a building with something going on inside and some electronics than $180 for a shoebox that's the same size.
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>>11910171
>Replace supply depot with command center and I'm on board.
I just want to recreate the classic ramp defensive build ;)
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JoyToy just announced their Warcraft line. Wonder how many Blizzard's licences they got.
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>>11903325
Get ready to cum after this weekend bro
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I'm not feeling it.

It's too figure centric, yet it's smaller than 1:18, so it's not as much action figure fun.
And it's missing the point for smaller scales, like 1/25 (?) that it is, because smaller scales usually have more vehicles and playsets. Megabloks was great because of the buildings and settings the minifigures can interact with. The other minis lines have a ton of vehicles you can buy.

This line isn't offering anything that makes other mini-lines worth it.

They should have had a bunker day one.
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>>11914343
Well, those are collectibles not real toys. Too delicate for play, it's pose and forget kind of a thing.
And I prefer it personally, they just present themselves better on a display. I just want quality, high detail, variety and an accurate scale.
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>>11915126
i own a ton of collectibles and most of them aren't too delicate to play with.

And if i want shit just to display, i prefer 1:12 or maybe just give me a blind box figurine that costs $10.

this 1:25 line is such a waste, because it's missing the point for the miniscale and extremely overpriced for what it is.
Makes me wish Megabloks was still around.
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>>11914343
>>11915166
Not winding up getting Megabloks StarCraft is the biggest toy disappointment of my life

But this line does look pretty damn great. They have said that larger vehicles and buildings in development. Before a single figure has shipped we've seen at least 18 figures/vehicles in development. They are planning releases every month or two. If 6 months from now we haven't seen any of the larger stuff I'd say it's okay to complain, but they are absolutely going to pump this stuff out and it's likely we'll have something like 40+ offerings by this time next year. This is going to be *the* definitive StarCraft line.
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>>11915761
Yeah, this is what I really like about JoyToy. They commit to the stuff, others would do like a Marine, Zelot and Hydralisk and that's it. Joytoy is showing entire army before even the first figure got released. Can not wait to get them all and build a battle diorama.
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>>11915761
>This is going to be *the* definitive StarCraft line
considering we're already seeing stuff out of scale and how they're not doing a good job with the Warhammer line.......................................... someone else can do a better job.
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>>11915945
Who else is going to touch this dead franchise? Go on, tell us.

JT has done amazing things with Warhammer, more than anyone ever thought possible 10 years ago. The paint quality slipping lately doesn't invalidate that we are actually going to end up with all 18 primarchs as good-quality, poseable action figures, which NOBODY had ever imagined before JT started doing it. God knows that Todd or Bandai were never going to make even one of them.
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>>11915945
This has to be bait right?
On output alone no one will ever come close to JT. They could make literally half the line out of scale and you could only buy the stuff that's explicitly close enough in scale with one another and you will still have a line with 10x more characters than any other toy company would bother with.

I hope that aggressive criticism of stuff that's too out of scale makes them change it or avoid it in the future, I do. And I hope that this line is successful and continues for years and that we get all sorts of alternate factions and campaign units and co op units etc.

But even if it bombs and we only get what they're currently working on we'll still wind up with the majority of basic StarCraft units and that's absolutely wild, dream level stuff that wouldn't have been possible with literally anyone else.
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>>11916463 >>11916493
>more than anyone ever thought possible 10 years ago
That's because GW is a shitty company who demands way too much money for its licenses and also a control freak. They seeminly relaxed, due to Marvel's success with their movie franchises. But how much have they really relaxed? IT's hard to say.

So who else is there, like you said. Today, JT is your only option. since they're Chinese, it doesn't take a lot of money for them to profit off of the toyline.
So in the half decade or so of them making WH40k figures, all we really have are a couple of pallete swap Space Marines. Everything else they kinda half assed or left incomplete. It's like Mattel making Batman, Batman, Batman, Batman, Batman, Batman, and Batman. Yeah, you get him in arctic gear, ski jumping gear, trampoline gear, sharkrepellent gear, Joker Hunter Gear, but where's the Joker, Blue Beetle, Captain Shazam, Manhunters, or Lobo?

So you're left wanting some other company to do it, because we want more than just Space Marines.

>On output alone no one will ever come close to JT
In theory that sounds great, but like i said, something like the Bunker should have been a day one release.
So right now, I'm not feeling it and them fucking up with the scale already has me skipping that release.
So I'm left wanting, hoping someone else fills in these gaps.
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>>11914291
>titties on an Adept
So it's not just Archon being horny and giving them tits in the TMG, it has to be from an official Blizzard source and approved by them.
>but Anon, Adepts already had boobplates
Those were chest protectors purposefully designed to look a bit like fantasy boob armor to make Adepts look more feminine, but they were pretty angular (fitting quite angular chests all Protoss have regardless of their gender), pointy and covered both outer sides of the general "boob area". They suggested boobs, but there were no actual tits under them. That huge crystal in the middle is supposed to be the thing allowing them to throw shades and teleport to them. It was visibly sticking beyond the chest.
Now, the boobs are bigger, very round and there is no side armor on them, so it can't be a boob shaped chestplate on a flat alien with an angular chest, but rather it's their actual tits. And the crystal in the middle is now dwarfed by the boobs and barely reaches beyond them in it's most pointy part.
I hate modern Blizzard.
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>>11919692
>OH MY GOD ARE THOSE BOOBS ON A TOY?!!!?!!?!!1!!!
Maybe try not being a faggot
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>>11920808
Sorry for caring about canon of a 28 years old franchise. I know you weren't even a tingle in your mother's pimp's balls when StarCraft came out in 1998, but some of us who played the game back then care about the mouthless race being properly titless, rather than gooning all day to plastic anime figures in vain hope of silencing the dread of existence like you do.
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>>11920946
welcome to any chinese toy thread, where caring about the series makes you the worst person ever, becuase the chinese shills can't allow you to criticize their company.
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>>11920946
I have been playing since day 1, adepts weren't in the original, and they always had boobs you fucking moron.
The JT line is using the detailed concept art for most of their figures so far and adept concept art has more pronounced boobs than the tiny in game models.



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