Please buy another G1 Bumblebee but this time from the terrible Awakening short!Previous:>>11898776
>>11904173>alt mode clearly patterened after classics bumblebeeGetting overpriced, mediocre toonershit toys that are trying to copy the aesthetic of superior golden-era CHUG toys (which sold for 1/3rd the price) is fucking hilarious.
>>11904173Holding out hope that Bug Bite is recolored from this, it'd go hard.
>>11904182If that's what you need to tell yourself anon, by all means keep enjoying your twenty year old toys.
i would genuinely think about it if it combined, which it does not.
>>11904182Are we still pretending Classics Bumblebee was good? This shit didn't even come with a gun.
I don't care about another goddamn bee, just give me bug bite, SG goldbug, fucking something
>>11904194Glyph. The first one in forever.
New Bee is $30BWAHAHAHAHA
>>11904190The combination in the short was bullshit, more like a magic blending than an actual physical combination. Some 3P might make frameslop of it though
>>11904193It wasnt amazing but it was good
>>11904193You're American, you have extra guns you can give him
>>11904208That's the new Deluxe price.
>>11904213I got that football helmet guy on clearance a couple weeks ago for $13, it was nice to spend >$20 on a toy that size again. It'll never go back though, it's going to keep getting more expensive forever until the brand collapses.
>>11904205I'd be happy with a glyph from either the Dev or 86 mold, but they better give her some nice metallic plastic
>>11904227and some nice metallic boobies
I’m just waiting for Allicon to go up for preorder.Was the Quintisson Judge ok even though it barely transforms?
>>11904173Where's the fucking Throttlebots?
>>11904233I was happy with it, though I wish the mouth moved on all the faces. It only does on some for some reason.
>>11904190Remember your ancestorsKitbash it yourself
>>11904173This is kinda cool, might get it.
>deluxes are $45 in canada nowSo much for muh orange man bad cope
>>11904245>Trump puts tariffs in place>Hasbro increases prices to mitigate increased cost of manufacturing>uses this as an excuse to further increase prices elsewhere due to greedboth are a problem. this isn't hard to understand.
>>11904245just wait to see what they’re gonna cost 2 years from now when we’re still in an oil crisis and hasbro still wants to gouge on top of that
>>11904245>$150 for 3 action figuresUnsustainable
>>11904107>I have seen almost nothing but praise for short in pretty much every online corner of the fandom, including /co/.Go look at the achieves the threads stop bumping or 404 the moment people start taking apart what's wrong with the short. Also a lot of the old forums are having these defenders roll i with accounts that there last post before this new release was 5+ years ago. The masses are not loving it any more than they hate it but if these "shills" or whatever you want to call them don't back off they are going to just see everyone turn on this because the more light you put on this short, the worse the reception gets. >>11904248At this rate just wait two months.
>>11904173The short wasn’t that bad, cmon. At least they gave us something new
>>11904233He's somewhat hollow for his jail alt to be a thing, and his face changing gimmick, charming as it is, isn't the best way to rotate the faces around as just holding the tab, and moving it manually. These increasing prices make it hard to recommend to anyone unless you just really like Quintissons and/or Judge.
>>11904173That thing is going to glut Ollie's and other discount markets. >>11904266The "Apology Tour" was not the best thing to run with as a market gimmick with that short. It almost certainly would sour people to it even without Peter's death. You are making the theme that you shouldn't have killed Prime to make a short that is demanding he quit trying and go away. Not the best message to go with that.
>>11904260It's way more likely that those old accounts are just old guys who came back because of the movie release and have no interest in any new media for the most part. There's not enough money in the world to organize a bunch of random online accounts and pay them to advertise a 12 minute short attached to a rerelease. The world isn't that dramatic.
>>11904173Well this tells us that the plan was always to sell toys. Can't even do a nice send off for poor Cullen, got to drain every last drop from 40yo man-children >>11904260>>11904271There is hardly any real traffic talking about. AI made it possible to actually view activity and much like 4chan, it's just no being talk about.
>>11904245$30 at BBTS
>>11904270>You are making the theme that you shouldn't have killed Prime to make a short that is demanding he quit trying and go away. Not the best message to go with that.I think a lot of people are reading way too much into it. The idea I took was more that he had to accept his death for the time being, he would get his chance to fight and die again. For the moment he just needed to be present to be in the Matrix when Rodimus opens it, which is why he talks about lighting our darkest hour at the end.The only really confusing thing is having dream sequence Megatron take the Matrix as if it's mean to have any consequence. It shouldn't, both because it's just a vision and because decepticons can't use the Matrix.
>>11904277>Optimus meets God>"OPTIMUS PRIME YOU SHOULD KILL YOURSELF... NOW!!"
>>11904162>shill for liking a cartoonJust take the L anon. This is just embarrassing.
>>11904193>Shitting on Classics BeeShut your whore mouth.
>>11904280He's already dead though.
>>11904245>EBGamesWait. What?
>>11904285The devil had to convince him he wasn't coming back to life in a few years to help truly save cybertron and take the matrix back from Rodimus.
>>11904173Stop trying to post bullshit duplicate threads asshatReal thread is here >>11898580
>>11904300But he did come back to life later, twice iirc.
>>11904304Correct, which is why the whole short made no damn sense.
>>11904266It was a terrible addon to thr movie I'd rather see a shameless ad for SS86 than that
>>11904074>>11904078is THAT what he was saying? I thought he was saying stop fighting FOR A MOMENT because they will need you later, but if you insist on coming back to life right now, things will go all sideways.
>>11904301Fuck off with your made up shit
>>11904317
>>11904270Apology Tour was a fine marketing gimmick, I enjoyed it. They’re talking directly to the now-grown kids who cried when Prime died in 1986. They know their audience. It’s a joke. The short was open to interpretation, I didn’t see it as a call for him to give up.>>11904307>ads for ss86Which played before the movie, which I also didn’t mind.
>>11904313>>11904321>"Tell me what you want!">"For you to break the cycle!">"And turn my back on everyone?!">"If you value their sacrifice!">"We can win!">"NO! The Decepticons will simply be replaced by another, and you will know nothing but loss and death.">"I will not abandon my friends!">"Then watch them be destroyed!"
>>11904313>I thought he was saying stop fighting FOR A MOMENT because they will need you later, but if you insist on coming back to life right now, things will go all sideways.that's all there is to it.Everyone else is overthinking it. Optimus needed to die for now so the Matrix goes to Hot Rod and he goes through the whole journey that would allow them to enter Unicron by surprise and take him down. Optimus needs to be within the Matrix for it to be at full power and let Rodimus know what to do. If Optimus kept fighting Megatron they'd be taken by surprise by Unicron and not be prepared to fight back.
Grabbed 2 more Starscreams just because I could. He’s already sold out again.
What you're all ignoring is that the short is bad because in the movie Optimus does not show any abnormal resistance to his death, he just passes the Matrix on to Magnus and tells him he has faith in him. The short is rewriting the character from the movie it is meant to accompany.
Goddammit, thats what I get for doing chores
>>11904328It's not people are overthinking so much as the story is so piss poorly told. If that was all the short was about, what was the point of the Evil Bumble? Or even Bumblebee at all? Why even have those scenes? Why did Prime get a human hand in the Unicron vision? Why did Prime need to drop a already passed on Matrix into lava? Why have a post credit scene where Megs finds it and takes it? Why have vision of Megs with said Matrix? You are just looking at one tiny part and saying "because this makes sense the whole thing is fine"
>>11904343Ad for Age of Megatron toyline
>buy a figure because it's discounted and only has a few left>few weeks later they are getting more at a even bigger discount I know I would also be kicking myself if I didn't bite and it then went out of stock/to full price but it still stings that G2 Slag and Snarl went from 25% off to now 50%.
>>11904328>If Optimus kept fighting MegatronPretty sure Megatron wouldn't be a problem
>>11904347where?
>>11904336Agreed, as noted >>11904270 having a theme for your event being about making things right, it just made everything worse.>>11904343Honestly I think it's just the usual Hasbro meddling and it'll likely come out as such, this is no different than how disjointed the Transformers Prime series got over the creation team fighting with the writers, or even how sideways season 3 of Beast Wars went when Hasbro just wouldn't tell the team what toys they did and didn't want included which lead to the BW team to opt out of being involved in Beast Machines. Like the 86 movie, Hasbro is their own worse enemy insisting on things that just hurt them more than help them.
>>11904350https://indemandtoys.co.uk/products/pre-order-transformers-generation-selects-g2-dinobots-2-pack
I'm actually shocked to have him. Target came through. The sale price didn't hurt either. I'm content.
>>11904353He's pretty good. This is my first go around with the new Seeker mold. I'm tempted to grab Thunderstrike and Skywarp but I don't have any more room on my TF shelf for two more Seekers.
Rate my Cons. I know it's a pretty basic bitch lineup, but I love this particular lineup. I'm pretty content now. Shockwave wasn't worth the upgrade and Astrotrain is outright a downgrade so I'm good on the old ones. Now just give us some more Armada Decepticons and I'll be happy.
>>11904336The "short" is an abomination of bullshit and borderline AI slop thrown together for "hype" and shitIt entirely fucks with what canon is already there
>>11904355I found Shockwave a lot better than I gave credit forHe really is an improvement over the SiegeAs for Astrotrain aim for the DCS. Easily best version.The SS86 is horrid in every way imaginable and I actually think not even 3P can fix it
>>11904317Spoken like a loser pissy he couldn't start a thread and is now derailing shit out of spite
>>11904359He is literally the Siege with more cartoon accurate looks. Whether he's an improvement or not depends entirely on one's sense of aesthetics.
>>11904359Yeah, what >>11904377 says. It's the same figure with a slightly different asthetic and I'm not anal enough to get annoyed at greebles. So, I'll just stick with the older one. The other figures though are straight up upgrades from the old ones.
Somebodies mad
>>11904377>>11904383Yes it's the Siege but feels smoother, looks nicer and is better coloring. I get sticking with Siege tho but my OCD/Tism wouldn't wanna mix stylizations
>>11904392To be fair, this thread was made by the same asshole who ignores existing new threads made judy because he doesn't like OP's photo for it and who also throws a screaming tantrum if we don't exclusively post in a thread that is 400+ and is already on page 8 or 9 that he started
Why is this general always so God damn mentally ill.
>>11904405The OP is a stupid asshole who is pissy he didn't get to make the new TF thread and detailed discussion started a second thread
>>11904405We had an existing TF thread but some pissant didn't like that he didn't start thread with his gay photo so he decided to derail conversation by starting a second thread no one wanted out of spite
>>11904393>>11904397What's really funny is there is like two or three people at most in these threads, totally bonkers to get this butt mad over any of this on either side.>>11904405 >>11904411>>11904415(You)
>>11904245remember when you were about to get rid of trudeau and then orange man conveniently started shitting on canada so everyone voted for trudeau 2it's almost like it's all being done on purpose, but nawwwwstick to transformers, man
>>11904270erone of those statements is in-universe, the other is out-of-universe. where's the conflict?
>>11904173So we have Optimus with Megatron's entire arm and now Bumblebee with his gun. Realistically how many more characters can Habsro get away with slapping his gun on?
>>11904359What, in your opinion, is an improvement over the Siege version?
>>11904317why would you reply to thatanyway great, now we have two threads again. fantastic.>>11904325yeah but I think he was just testing optimus>>11904351the BW team didn't opt out, they were replaced. specifically with people who never saw the show. deliberately.isnt the entire point 'hey let's give peter one more chance to shine, on account of he's got cancer'kinda like that crisis movie did for kevin
>>11904343>what was the point of the Evil Bumble? Or even Bumblebee at all?Hasbro trying to force G1 Bumblebee into Bay Bumblebee, ruining his character
>>11904411>>11904415You mean the other thread started a week and a half ago that wasn't linked anywhere while an ongoing thread was still healthy?That thread?
>>11904395>feels smootherDoes he still have the clicky joints in his hips and knees? I always thought they were strange. No one else has ratchets that feel just like his
>>11904468You know, true and fairMaybe it's personal preference for him feeling smoother yet I DO really like the Siege and still have him. Looking back it's funny he has a nicer Alt Mode to me because the extra bits turn him into some sick Micro Scale Battlecruiser type and was cheaper retail now SS86 is more and has less. Kinda funny now
I see we lost a chunk of our image limit to a sperg's temper tantrum. terrific.
>>11904468Not that anon but I like that the new is less grebbly. Though I wish they kept the attachment points for the Seige armor
>>11904479Sixshot repaint when?
>>11904193will never understand why people think classics/combiner wars/most stuff pre-Siege was in anyway good or better than our current stuff. Hollow waffling everywhere, kibble hanging everywhere, cheap plastic, pointless gimmicks, zero scaling, barely any articulation.
>>11904487How about a new Shockblast first and then Six Shot?
>>11904490Some things were great but it’s weird how people act like hollow waffling is new
>>11904491Not in the budget
>>11904491Nemesis Star Convoy or whatever comes with one
>>11904492they used to do it with more discernment, almost a sense of reluctant necessity.now half the fucking visible surface of a limb is hollow and the back might be even hollower.
>>11904491>>11904487wonder if Shocky could be retooled
>>11904487>>11904491God I wish
>>11904173They're giving out fusion canons left and right these days Does the one from Energon Optimus look good/work with SS Megatron? Maybe this one will? Or are they the same cannon
what's the thirdie mad about now?
>>11904523Bro that Bumblebee doesn't even come to Megatron's knee. It's a fusion cannon for ants.
>>11904173holler-ass forearms..
>>11904490Most of original Classics run was just alright but the 2008-2010 CHUG had tons of gems and coincided with Animated and Movie lines. We have never had toys that good before or since those years.
New episode of Wild King W is just about Undead Dragnus, supposedly. Ugh, I hate how that show is region locked.
>>11904524Op is pissy he didn't get to make the next thread
>>11904551Pic unrelated.
>>11904173I don't own the devastation Bumblebee mold yet so I might get this one. Evil Bee sounds hilarious
>>11904601why does he have a decepticon logo on his shoulder instead of just pasting it over his chest logo
>>11904551It was so good
>>11904603Cool points I guess
>>11904603Funniest part is that part is unpaintable plastic on the toy so he has a plug in piece that has the Decepitcon symbol. So now one of his shoulders is wider than the other, in addition to the FunPub era head.
>>11904607gotta admit, it looked pretty cool. and it's one of those things it would be annoying to do in 2d (well these days they can just do a flat 3d texture that just automatically stretches over it, but)This guy's swords, on the other hand, what is their deal? that's like the opposite of an edge.>>11904605yeahhh that is maybe the best car altmode.>>11904609kek, what a fiasco. just use a fucking sticker, hasbrony.
>>11904613Maybe they are more like batons instead of swords
>>11904213Retards will say the new price is fineI don't know why they do, but they love high prices
>>11904618kinda look like missiles.. either way, batons are terrible weapons.>>11904621anon, those people who describe you as 'fine' don't really like you
>>11904613>kek, what a fiascoAlso: the animation model uses Origins Bumblebee as a base, not Devastation.
>>11904632are both of those trying to be G1?
>>11904213I will not be buying at "new" retail price
>>11904694it's been annoying watching weird /pol/ types accuse hasbro of jewry (not understanding the basic difference between good and bad business. They're the kind that actually succeeds, you see. This failing cheapo shit is more Taiwan's demesne) while at the same time, adopting the sensible hebraic policy of never paying retail.
>>11904703>demesneI thought you were having a stroke but apparently that is a word. Albeit an archaic one.
GT Scorcher feels so old-fashioned in a good way, like a lost Classics mold.
>>11904706it's one of those weird things where you hear it all the time, and assume it's another word, then the first time you see it written, it sticks in your head so you keep using it.I almost said 'legerdemain' because I forgot that actually means sleight-of-hand.
I've seen some theories that that over there is Megatron taking over Bumblebee's body. I doubt that, and while I think it would be a load of scrap if it were true, I appreciate the Prime reference.
>>11904267So that Quintesson is now just Laetitia's equivalent of Frieza's pod thing? Does that mean that she was secretly the one in charge of the Quintessons all along?
>>11904248>oil crisisThe "oil crisis" is entirely fake.
>>11904742I know conservatives are trained to dismissing anything that contradicts their world view, but come the fuck on man.
>>11904491Here you go, bro.
>>11904750You're aware that Alaska has one of the largest oil deposits on the planet, right? It's almost completely untapped, though, because the US is saving it in the event of there being an actual crisis.
>>11904764Star Convoy, maybe?
>>11904764https://www.target.com/p/big-figs-30-34-transformers-optimus-prime-action-figure-tgt-exclusive/-/A-95056707
>>11904490>classics/combiner wars/most stuff pre-SiegeThe fact that you're lumping all of that together is very bizarre. I'm guessing you started collecting with Siege and are in your 20s or early 30s.
>>11904551>2008-2010 CHUG had tons of gems and coincided with Animated and Movie lines. We have never had toys that good before or since those years.And we never will again. It actually wouldn't surprise me if Transformers had another big resurgence, even if not on the level of 2006-2011, but the toy industry gets less and less relevant every year.
>>11904193He's a lil espionage unit and he comes with a neat jetpack, leave him alone
They'll ship out Liokaiser annnnnny day nowAnnnnny day now
>>11904273>30 USD and not CAD>30 USD is already 42 CAD>plus shipping to Canada and anything elseHoly FUCK you're retarded
>>11904780That's a big Prime.
>>11904798Mine shipped today!
>>11904808Nice, hopefully yours turns up soon, and hopefully mine gets booted out the door today too.
>>11904803>That's a big Prime.FOR YOUIt's funny how they straight up copied the SS86 to the point of having fake transformation joints and slots sculpted.
>>11904811Hopefully everyone in Europe will receive them before the end of the month, at the very least this confirms that they're finally shipping them so the wait is pretty much over.
>>11904266It was that bad.
>>11904790I'm also in my early 30s and I think he's insane for lumping classics & combiner wars together
Screamer is available on Pulse if anyone cares.
>>11904802If you are shipping to Canada, Flat Rate Shipping is now available for $10 USD at BBTS.How about a big cup of STFU? Think before you open your mouth, jackass!
>>11904750>come the fuck on man>millions and billions of oils in huge saved up stockpiles around the world>several countries produce tons of oil with no need for hormuz>tiny little middle east place being allowed to affect an industry across the entire planetThere is no "oil crisis". The only "crisis" is that its entirely manufactured and people are profiting off it, so its being allowed to go on. Otherwise you could nuke hormuz and everything in its general area off the map, and the world would go on without it.
>>11904847S'why I returned to BBTS after years Even with the CAD exchange rate, free shipping means a better deal on cardbots than aliexpress of agabyss were ever going to give
>>11904843>sold out in 5 secondslmao
>>11904847>the price you suggested is a measly $3 cheaper than the price anon already listed at EB Games, a store where anon could ostensibly walk to and pick up his toy in person>the flat rate shipping for 14 CAD bumps it to a price that's assuredly more than 45 CADEven if flat-rate shipping to Canada is something great and overdue, your math in terms of fielding a suggestion to anon is still stupid and retarded. You clearly looked at your burger price and burger mentality, and assumed for whatever reason that the person complaining about fucking Canadian prices decided to post a listing in USD and went "30 smaller number than 45", evident by you essentially doubling down with "40 smaller than 45 unga bunga"
>>11904843>>11904851Kinda strange. Just wished they made an updated set of Coronation gear, then it would have sold out faster.
>>11904851what?wow. Damn, you have to have the perfect timing.
>>11904856they're waiting to squeeze every last buck out of this before they screw everyone on the double dip
>>11904847>>11904849Not that anon but on BBTS I just had to pay 35 USD for duties and fees on top of my flat rate shipping which kind of defeated the purpose. But I don't know if that's just where I live or what I bought. How bad were your duties and fees there?
>>11904863No, you don't understand, anything cheap and convenient in America is going to be cheap and convenient globally because no other countries exist>35 USD on top of the shippingHonestly that's fucking brutal and stupid
>be in canada>order something from US>pay all the taxes and fees>package gets to the border>canadain/US customs at border decides its randomly needs a $40 customs feeThey literally pick this shit at random.
>>11904868I know, isn't it so cheap and convenient? The next time a mouthbreather helpfully suggests BBTS to you, consider breathing poison gas directly into his mouth!
>>11904851It feels so good to be a Dramatic Capture Chad and not have to get involved in this rat race to have a complete (superior) trio.
>>11904881Can you post it? All I see is the Earthrise mold.
>>11904863Yikes I'd been away from BBTS for years and only came back recently because it was unfortunately the best route to get cardbots like I mentioned and SMP GaorangerI'm not buying normal-ass transformers there when I have EB and the local walmart
>>11904881>Earthrise Seeker superior to anythingDon't choke on all that copium you're chugging.
>>11904888>le epic buzzword!Keep hitting refresh on Pulse and maybe you'll get lucky with that Starscream lil bro.
I think this upgrade is more striking than the white version
>>11904891The upgrade looks good but honestly I don't even think he needs it. That gold Vector is a sexy beast.
>>11904881This era of greebling was so bad. The sculpts were really flat and blocky feeling and made them look stiff. I like greeblng but it feels like any tact they had in the UT and Classics days for it just isn't here. I stand by Classics starscream being one of the most overrated molds ever, butt here's some balance in the sculpt's details that's missing in ER. I don't love how smooth most of the SS sculpts are either necessarily. Grimlock is close to my ideal.
>>11904896I can't disagree that the greebling was done more tastefully then. I don't really mind the greebles on the ER seeker...except for on the waist flap, where they just went overboard. It's worse on Thundercracker and Skywarp because at least Starscream's red helps to kind of camouflage it.>Grimlock is close to my ideal.Agreed. I think the Netflix Soundwave mold was pretty close to that as well.
>>11904891any good upgrade kits lately? aside from the lauded seeker kits, I mean
>>11904900The Magnus one that cleans up the shoulder joints
>>11904881>>11904896The ER's proportions btfo Classics
>>11904900I've got a HoS Prime kit in the mail, so I'll let you know how that is when it arrives
>>11904903If you want your seekers to have a torso that is way to wide and looks like an ugly box, sure.
>>11904903no it doesn'tER's torso is too boxy and the head is hilariously tiny
Like any of this matters when Hasbro releases the brand new Seeker mold in 2028
>>11904911NTA but one thing I think a lot of people miss is that the ER proportions are a bit closer to the coronation scene, where they're suddenly drawn in more exaggerated anime like proportions. So it's completely subjective, but if you like that look, the ER mold is your guy.
>>11904881Am I the only person that likes smooth panels on robots?
>>11904916the buyer's market is on your side considering how many people are jumping to new, toon accurate versions for Legends, MP, and generations now. You're absolutely not the only one.
>>11904916Nope. I think greebling is trash and vastly prefer the smooth, clean look of the new toys we're getting. The whole appeal of the G1 designs to me is how elegantly simple they are and all the greeble does is clutter them up.
>>11904919I just think Cars and Planes should look sleek
>>11904920Real life cars and planes have panel lines and mechanical detail, though.
>>11904922Panel lines yes, which is translated into transformation linesMechanical details on a car and plane though?Can you show me an example and no, rivets aren't
>>11904900
>>11904924NTA but I worked in a plane museum for a few years and jets have a LOT of details all over them. The top side of the ER Seeker's jet mode is pretty realistic for the amount of panels, seams and general greebling. The panel lines are obviously more pronounced on the toy because if they were properly to-scale they'd be way too subtle and would look "wrong".I will say the robot-exclusive bits are definitely a bit overly greebly but the SS86 went way too far the other way. IMO the SS86 Ironhide, Prime and Megatron got the detail ratio just right.
>>11904914Not true at all. The ER one looks stiff and boxy, the complete opposite of stylized "Obari style" anime robots. There's way more to that art style than just how broad the shoulders are.
>>11904856Then it would have sold out in 4 seconds instead of 5?
>>11904940Only thing I think here is the cockpit is worseThe back end looks better
>>11904943I don't see how it looks "boxy" but whatever you say anon.>Obari stylePlease don't say the O-word anon, I don't want to see that fag who always posts his Superion thrusting his crotch into his face ever again.
Is Autobot Blanker that loose in the hips? Every review I see mentions that..
>>11904954He's a total slut
>target still hasn’t shipped starscream what do you wanna bet they cancel this one too
>>11904919>>11904920>>11904924There's definitely a balance. One thing I wish was used more is that the robot mode greebling should be distinguishable from the vehicle mode stuff. that's rarely seen these days which is unfortunate, especially since so much of Starscream's robot mode is exclusively robot mode only parts but the surface of the ER jet mode looks the same. My ideal for Transformers tends to be a lot of the 2000's era G1 art. Animation influenced with more dynamic proportions, some details from the toy and some added for more detail.
>>11904958Mine arrives today so if yours does you can buy mine off of ebay.
>>11904948>I don't see how it looks "boxy" but whatever you say anonThe torso is a massive brick, it just looks like a square slab with no dynamism whatsoever. Even the classics accentuated the waist way better, and had an actual crotch instead of the thin red belt the ER has. The proportions and shapes of the body on that mold are just out of whack, and covering all of that with way too many greebles makes it look even worse.
>>11904948>I don't see how it looks "boxy" but whatever you say anon.NTA but the problem is that the ER seeker is too full of straight, parallel lines. The movie coronation Starscream scene has lots of curves and tapered/thickening areas to him while a lo of the ER mold is straight lines up and down. That's what makes it feel boxy to people. Like look at the curve in the chest here. >>11904914The ER mold lacks that.
>>11904966one of the things a lot of the pre SS/WFC trilogy designs lack is the widening shins and forearms that were common in G1 designs. I'm sure it was partially done for perspective to make them look bigger, but they were just drawn like that most of the time anyway
>>11904803>tfw scalpers actually bought this
>>11904948Im crotch thrust anon. Now there is that other anon who just poses them leaning too far back and calls it a crotch thrust.
>>11904972Worst poser of all time
>>11904843>>11904851I've noticed that many things suddenly become available for a few minutes in the early mornings. It's how I got all my Combaticons and Seekers, weeks/months after they had been sold out. I figure it must be a few people cancelling orders or something.
>>11904750Just go back to /pol/ or Reddit man
>>11904948The one I post on purpose sometimes because it's retarded and you shit yourself every time?It's not that serious man >>11904926They did such phenomenal Devastator Hands and it genuinely baffles me that they didn't do hands for the Superion
>>11904966>The ER mold lacks that.It has the smaller head and relatively larger chest size by comparison. Someone in this very thread was JUST complaining about it.
SS86 Cyclonus is at BBTS now.
>>11905003I want him but $42 is rough
>>11905006He’s practically leader sized at this point.
>>11905007What you mean to say is "leader size no longer means anything"
>>11905007Some leaders have no business being leaders
>>11905016b-but THE PLASTIC AND PARTS COUNT
>>11905001>Someone in this very thread was JUST complaining about it.And for good reason, it looks terrible on the ER. Comparing that to to the coronation scene makes no sense because the broad shoulders and small head are just one small part of the whole, Starscream's overall exaggerated and stylized proportions makes that part of the design work in the movie, the ER squarish and flat body doesn't.
>>11905014Yeah. Voyagers are leaders sold as leaders now (any triple changer). The only ones that feel like true leader size are the Dinobots.
ER doubledealer is the only modern figure that is truly a leader with the gimmicks and size
Had a feeling I should check my local Ross this morning, and I'm glad I did.Found these two grognards, the only Transformers on the shelves
Thats a good looking group.This is the first time ive every completed a Dinobot group, and thanks to discounts and such, I think I'm only in ~$100.Real good deal
>>11905019>the ER squarish and flat body doesn't.Whatever you say anon, doesn't bother me in the slightest.
>>11904974
>>11905029why do you have so many Prowls?
>>11905007CW Cyclonus is practically leader sized, and can be a combiner torso. Would you pay $42 + tax + tip for him?
>>11905037Cybertronian, regular, and battle damaged..dosent seem that excessive to me. Sounds like something someone with no toys would say
>>11905039Sounds like something an autistic cunt would say and do.
Transforming them all back to back, Grimlock feels the best to me, just intuitive in a way the others aren't. Still like them all, though>>11905037$5 dead one, MtMte that came in today, Siege for a donor head
>>11905014>>11905017>>11905022If you're a Leader class shorter than Cybertron Metroplex you're a rip off, end of discussion.
>>11905037>>11905039One's Prowl, one's Prowl 2, and one's (Prowl) Unit 3, obviously.
Finally get Starscream and so many errors. Why do they use the worst Chinese ladies to paint now.
>>11905059Plastic flash looks terrible. That's just a 5 second look. If I actually open him I fear looking at the back. The wings look OK from here though.
>>11905023>smaller than the magnus mold
>>11905003>>11905006>>11905016>Legs are considerably worse in every wayPain
I claim this thread in the name of the true leader of the Decepticons! All hail Starscream!
>>11905065No they're not.
>>11905016Am I the only one that likes the original headsculpt over the new one?
>>11905064>triple changer, support for cassettes and has fucking huge weapons
>>11904989That’s kit #1. #2 will have the hands.
>>11904379>>11904381>>11904382>>11904384>>11904385Isn't flooding still explicitly against site rules or nah?
>>11905068No. Neither are perfect but Kingdom clears for me just for the sick lightpiping. Which 86 inexplicably removed.
>>11905024>>11905029You lucky bastard. I get fuck all at my local Ross
>>11905077it is but jannies don't give a shit
>>11904818He's a secondary who started collecting in 2018 and probably thinks Siege and SS86 are some of the greatest transformers toylines we ever had (both of which aren't even better than the more average lines we had in the past) and believes everything before then is antiquated because it's not G1 enough or doesn't have meme ankles.
>>11904589Very true, he's from the BAYSED toylines
>>11905001>It has the smaller head and relatively larger chest size by comparisonbut that's not enough. There's no flow to the design like there is in the movie art. That's why it looks flat and boxy to people.
>>11905105>(both of which aren't even better than the more average lines we had in the pastfind me a Grimlock figure better than the Studio Series one from before.I've been collecting since 1995, some of you have really rose colored glasses for the past. We have gotten complete downgrades on things like paint apps, sure, but there were a lot of failures in the past, too.
>>11905162>find me a Grimlock figure better than the Studio Series one from before.Masterpiece, Mr. ESL.
>>11905144>That's why it looks flat and boxy to people.It looks fine and is enough for me.>There's no flow to the design like there is in the movie art.That's because one is in an animation cell from a high budget animation and one is a toy. The same appearance and design, conveyed through the two different mediums, will not have 1:1 identical appearance.But please, point out an example of a Starscream/seeker figure that does have this elusive "flow to the design", and PLEASE, don't say 86.
>>11905165NTA but masterpiece is not big enough for the scale its working
>>11905045>Siege for a donor headpost pics after the transplant, deciding if I want to do the same
>>11905165He obviously meant in the mainline, retard.
>>11905170The ball joints are slightly different sizes, so its a little tight on Mtmte Prowl, but it works
He's got strong solid joints, better than the actual Commander had. He's fully compatible with the trailer, even with his fusion cannon attached. I'm very happy with him.
>>11905165So SS86 is the best Grimlock you can get outside of masterpiece? That's big praise
>>11905170Different anon here, here's mine.
>>11905176>>11905182looks nice, will try it when my prowl arrives, thanks anons
>>11905162>find me a Grimlock figure better than the Studio Series one from before.Does it matter? Not every Transformers toyline is GEEWUN nor does it have to adhere to such. A smarter response would be to just name a better figure than SS86 Grimlock but you couldn't find a way to strawman my argument.>I've been collecting since 1995>We have gotten complete downgrades on things like paint apps, sureIf you've really been collecting figures since 95 you wouldn't be downplaying how bad things have gotten nowadays.
>>11905169Cope>>11905171Cope>>11905181CopeConcessions accepted, brownoids.
>>11905176>>11905182How well do the whites match in person?
>>11905206The Siege is head is very slightly more off-white. But unless you have him under very bright light and really go looking for it, you won't really notice it.
>>11905182Man, I'm kinda tempted to grab Prowl to replace my ER one. Nothing is wrong with it but the clear shins scare the shit out of me. Do you think it's worth an upgrade guys?
>>11905059>>11905062I'd get a refund
>>11905215If you plan on transforming him a lot, yeah probably. If you're like me and just leave your Datsuns in bot mode, I still think the ER Prowl is cooler looking than the new one honestly.I never transform my Bluestreak, Smokescreen, or Silverstreak because I don't want to break them. My (now headless) Siege Prowl on the other hand was a lot of fun to flip back and forth.
I just want Prowl to have his shoulder cannons.
>>11905230I don't really transform my bots that much tbqh. It's just for $22 it's tempting to grab the new one, even if I like the old one's deco better. Did a bunch of old Prowls break? Mine's ok, I'm just careful when I transform him, which as I said, is rare. Last time was literally years ago.
>>11904750it's hard not to be trained to dismiss things that constantly contradict themselvesthat's why they've started doing that on purpose, and started treating the actual truth that way, in some areas. works like a charm every time.
>>11904759and yet still get shit on for having apparently done so already. I love Eric Idle, he was great as Wreck-Gar, I love "Fuck You Very Much" but good lord are the British confused about world events.
>>11904870BBTS used to be great, i'm sure some people just haven't bought in a while and aren't aware>>11904891that is indeed very cool.>>11904940it's so neat knowing my grandpa worked on shit like this. Well, not in 1980, but at McD's. Actually I don't know when he retired, I just assumed mid to late 70s.
>>11905016this statement has layersnot even politics, just like, Megatron.. I think everyone agrees Cassette Man should have been the leader, and only wasn't because Gun Robo was technically a more expensive toy, but only with all of his extra junk included.
>>11905084/toy/ has no moderation
>>11905190> Does it matter?Yeah cause I wanted a nice new Grimlock and I couldn’t get one in a main line until SS
Not everything should be G1 but Grimlock should always be G1, cime on now. That's like saying Rhinox shouldnt always be BW or that Bulkhead shouldnt always be Animated.
>>11905066Megatron just went out for cigarettes, you know. He's coming right back.
>>11904431>>11904428This mold is underrated. It was like my third modern transformer so for a long time it was my Megatron and honestly? It rocked. We need a big leader based on it.
>>11904490It had sovl.
>>11905287THE FOOL! Cancer will destroy his circuits in a mere 30 or 40 years!!
i got mixmaster from one of those blokees galaxy blind boxes and he came with the wrong eyepiece i managed to cut the hell out of it so it fit, but it's still a bit testy thankfully all the gore is hidden within the head pieces and the front visor part fits fine as is
>>11905261you say that but I've absolutely been banned before for getting in an argument with a guy covering for a groomer working at NECA
>>11905306one of the classic rules, if you can't see it, it can be as messy as you want.
>>11904790>The fact that you're lumping all of that together is very bizarre. I'm guessing you started collecting with Siege and are in your 20s or early 30s.Actually yeah you got it. Last time I bought a Transformers was Animated. Started back again with Siege.
>>11905307hate to say you earned it since I've gotten pulled into those before (always on the other side, of course), but I guess even a stopped clock is right once a week. also how long ago was this?
>>11905181And honestly they're so similar, it's like who cares
>>11905309Animated is the first line since Beast Wars where I genuinely wanted a few, because the likes of Waspinator and Blackarachnia really looked decent in both modes. Never got any.. especially because they did a really tempting more BW-esque BA retool, but fucked it up
>>11905308it's a good thing i dabble in model building/ painting or else i'd have been shit out of luck
>>11905313Waspinator was a floppy mess, I hated it.
>>11905311>SS86 is literally of the same weight>all without costing a leg
>>11904354wtf are those short legs
I'd be down for buying some of the G2 dinobots if anyone is offering
>>11905333>Anon doesn't understand how camera lenses work
>>11905037>Siege>Siege Barricade>Earthrise Prowl>ER Silverstreak>ER Barricade>ER SmokescreenI swear I got another 1 or 2 somewhereI didn't realize how many I got. I think i'm up to like 8+ of the Sideswipe mold too
>>11905337He's right those legs look goofy
>>11905255>breathes poison gas directly into you're mouth
>>119053388+ Sidswipes? Only the new ones any good.
>>11905301I'm suddenly bummed out that we never had a transformer who turned into a lighter
>>11905352Gold lightan
>>11905285But I love blue grimlock
>>11905337>>11905342The camera angle plus the feet being half covered makes them look shorter. The mold has been out for months with Thundercracker and Skywarp and nobody has noticed the legs being short for the simple reason that they aren't.
>>11905285I didn’t need it to be slavishly G1, I wanted Classics Grimlock to be cool but it just sucked. SS Grimlock is just a cool figure
>>11905325that's why i didn't ultimately shell out the dough (I could have gotten them for maybe 8-12 dollars above retail, by the time I really paid attention), they looked just a TOUCH too toyish, not 'finished' enough. but still, I want those designs tried again.
>>11905165SS86 shits all over masterpiece grimlock unironically.The only thing better on the MP is fully articulated arms. I can't even say the chrome because it's a sickly snot green color instead of gold.
>>11905337Cameras are fucking witchcraft, and nobody can tell me otherwise.>>11905358a man of culture.>>11905343Nuuu, I abandoned them. In fact when this tariff nonsense started, I told them I saw through their game, and when that first set of them were rescinded, and they DIDN'T pull back their alarmist reactionary prices? Yeah. I saw it written.
>>11905327Woah woah woahWe can compare and contrast but lets not spread misinformationEach sans weapons, MP Grimmy weighs 542g and 86 Grims clocks in at 314g
Since I've got an undamaged Prowl now, time to turn the dead one into a poorly customized OC
Behold!My attempts to make him look different from his brothers
>>11905400it works! customized OCs are the best.
>>11905400Wait the new prowl doesn’t have taillights?
>>11905400He shall be called... Pacemaker
>>11905405Thanks>>11905406The dead one didn't, either>>11905408Thats a good name
>Runabout has a Southern drawl in the G1 cartoon Huh?
Is the MTMTE Starscream red chest part supposed to be grey at the bottom?
>>11904343>Optimus is shown multiversal variants of himself>he wants to come back to life so he can continue the fight >sees an alt future where Bumblebee grows disillusioned and turns evil>sees an alt future where Unicron destroys Earth>fights Megatron in a vision, who tells Bumblebee that Optimus won't kill him because deep down he loves the fightOptimus Prime is always meant to fight for freedom and die, and the conflict always spirals on anyway after he sacrifices himself in every single universe. The only way to end the war is to stop fighting, but Optimus doesn't want to do that because it feels like turning his back on those he wants to protect. So he has to find the strength to be gentle, to stop Megatron without acting in a way that will just perpetuate the conflict.
>>11905378>inhales back my deadly poison gas out of your mouth
>>11905436>The only way to end the war is to stop fightingWho wrote this shit? Megatron?
>>11905178>The ugly red elbowBaby blue windows isn't worth the trade off of him having like 3 accessories tops for almost the same price to me when New Bee kit ran almost sub $20 and instantly was exactly what I wanted and the head is entirely worth it
>>11905440>if he doesn't die against Megatron, the war goes on long enough that Bumblebee grows disillusioned and turns Decepticon>if he comes back prematurely, Rodimus doesn't kill Unicron and Earth gets destroyed >if he actually just beats Megatron to death, he becomes a martyr and the war rages onI took it as Optimus being so quick to get back into the fight or to die to protect those around him that he doesn't realize his reactions keep the momentum of the conflict going. Every strike against the Decepticons invites retaliation, even if it's justified. He can't commit to violence, but then refuse to kill every last Decepticon when given the opportunity. If he's not willing to wipe them out, then he needs to find another way, or else the cycle of war will go unbroken.That's just my read though, it definitely came off like a stealth pilot or Part 1 (that retroactively became a swan song for Peter Cullen).
>>11905436that doesn't make a lick of sense>>11905437it's okay anon we can share it. i'll take half.>>11905446Exactly. The war needs a new leader, for now. Someday he will be back, and he will enter us into the Pax Cybertronia, and while there will still be a few conflicts here and there, there will be at least 400 years of peace before Beast Wars.also yeah it's nice he got to have a goodbye like this. couldn't have planned it better... I mean, he knew he was dying, right? so.. kinda brings to mind Kevin's last role in that Crisis movie.
You have to wonder what was going through Prime's head when he got shown that one vision though.>Ooooh see this! Bet it makes you want to stop fighting evil forever!>...what am I looking at?>What do you mean what are you looking at! It's Unicron RAWR! >What's a Unicron?
>>11905450>it's okay anon we can share it. i'll take half.That's very generous of you, I'll take the other half then and keep it safe and sound
I largely ignore Cyberworld but he looked so cool I had to get him.
>>11905068No. The new one’s head is too small. Also his face is squished vertically and the paint color they chose is awful
>>11905440>who wrote this shitThe writer of the Prime Awakening short is a 5ft tall jew by the last name Parrot. He was (or is) an assistant to JJ Abram’s the man who ruined Luke Skywalker
>>11905343Thank you, Jesus.
>>11905458I hope someone takes the Optimus version and paints him like RID Scourge. Hell, do it 5 more time so we can have The 7 Scourge of the Sea.
>>11905477Hahahahahahaha
>>11905451Was he not already known as like, the devil? I never watched the movie all the way through
So are they planning a hidden combiner robot mode for the Star Convoy truck/trailer? The trailer isn't really a trailer as it is more or less a lower torso/pair of legs with kibble that doesn't hold it together as a trailer whatsoever
>>11905484In g1 they don't have any idea unicron exists until he shows up in the movie to eat cybertron. Also watch the fucking movie its only an hour and a half.
>>11905528What was the original?>>11905540I know I should, but it's hard to watch movies. I'm drawing a birthday present for my mom right now, and when I'm done, I'll want to get back to all the drawing I didn't do while drawing her a present.
>>11905528It's, uh, not supposed to be detachable. Why the hell would you take him apart like that? He's a truck that turns into a big robot and a base - there's no reason to even speculate that he has anything to do with a combiner.
>>11905540>Also watch the fucking movie its only an hour and a half.Hey don't bully anon, the writer of the short didn't either
>>11905458Yo ho ho
>worse then the original release in every way
Other then the engine, I like it.
>>11905597
>>11905598lego looking ahh mudafaker
>>11905596>>11905598What the fuck were they thinking with this engine shitAnd I know for a fact that there's going to be inept castrates who would defend this anal shit
>>11905596>>11905598All they need to do is make one decent Powermaster/Godmaster mold. Now all of them will look like ass.
>>11905596>>11905598I just can't understand how they managed to fuck him up this badly. How does a modern figure with decades of technological advancement behind it somehow do a poorer job of integrating the Powermaster than a 38-year-old toy? Who at Hasbro looked at this and approved of it?
>>11905604Shut the fuck up, God. You people are so fucking insufferable how ever figure is fucked up. AOTP Joyride is fine. Acting like a G1 toy is better than a modern one is so fucking forced.
>And I know for a fact that there's going to be inept castrates who would defend this anal shit
>>11905528I'm assuming so. Take off the red and silver bits and you can clearly see some legs.Hope we get a Galaxy sized Grandus since we've already gotten 3 Titans in that class. (Maybe even him as a stand alone alt-mode that opens into a base like what they did with the Ark?)
>>11905528Don't listen to >>11905558That guy's a dumbassIts meant to combine with Galaxy Version Optimus Prime as a set of replacement legs, so you can somewhat achieve a Star Convoy look. It sucks though, not worth your time. I remember seeing people do a base mode using Defender Version Star Convoy but I haven't tried that myself yet
>>11905602PMOP/Ginrai and Overlord will probably be pretty good when they inevitably get new Commander class toys
>>11905273Just because you wanted one specific figure doesn't make the rest of the toyline not shit. The quality of a toyline is not measured based on it's best figure, its based on the averageThis is why I can't stand collectors, they don't even like action figures or any of the paraphernalia they collect they just want a simulacra of their childhood instead of just enjoying a figure on it's own merits
>>11905626This. They don't want articulated action figures, they want gimmick bricks because Muh Cybertron era garbage.
IRON BIRDS OF FOR-TUNE>>11905287Sounds like a problem for future Starscream!
>>11905626Studio series is a pretty good line overall though. I even said I’d be ok with a non-G1 faithful Grimlock , but there weren’t any great options before Studio Series besides the MP
>>11905665Most Studio series figures are mediocre to average at best. People's perceptions of them are blinded because they appeal to collectors who again, only care about filling their shelves. They're not even good value for money anymore which was part of what made the old toylines so great. There are some good studio figures and some shit ones but the line is average overall>>11905644I'd rather Cybertron era "garbage" than the slop we get now
>>11905616Metroplex and Scorponok are alright, but Fort Max is the first Galaxy class I've actually dislikedHis slab of a body just doesn't translate well into the Galaxy body type shape
>>11905688This is to say I don't believe Grandus would make for a very good galaxy toy either
>>11905604Joyride isn't a well known enough guy fro Hasbro to bother with a new mold when they can just use him to get more money out of an existing mold.
>>11905606>AOTP Joyride is fineIt's a Powermaster. All they do is have a little guy who turns into an engine. They completely failed the only assignment, make the little guy look like an engine incorporated into the big guy. This is worse the the prime masters from PotP.
>>11905703Yeah it's lame, but considering the powermaster gimmick requires a figure to actually have a slot for an engine to insert into, I know Hasbro wouldn't bother.They should've just made the miniguy a gun that sorta looks like an engine. Joyride doesn't even have a weapon.
>>11905709then autists would complain he got retconned into a targetmaster
>>11905703>>11905709>just need a tiny person who can turn into a square, something they've already done years ago>just need a 5mm peg for them to peg into>they have no other job or purpose, so you can do as little as you want or as much as you want, e.g. giving the option to have them be a Titans Return tier pilot or driver>instead they give you a retardedly-huge guy despite them crying about plastic and costs, that completely obstructs the windshieldLiterally no reason to do any of this>>11905713We already had those useless guys in the Titans trilogy that could only turn into a meaningless logo to slot into shit>tfw they didn't give Dreadwind or Darkwing their powermasters eitherWait what>Joyride doesn't even have a weapon.But his bio says he's a warrior, does he not even come with a fun gun
>>11905715No gun, no nothing, just a fat ass block. That'll be $27.99 + tax + tip thank you.
>>11905646You gonna get the side fillers upgrade?
To ashes we transform
>>11905691The problem is that the "existing mold" is bad to begin with. This new toy is mogged by BOTH G1 Sureshot AND Joyride. It's not a question of whether or not they should have made a dedicated mold for each. It's just that they should have made it better in the first place. Alt modes simply aren't a priority anymore, which results in shit toys.
>>11905717I feel so bad for him, he didn't deserve this>hands are just a part of his forearms>they changed their colors for no reason but his fists neither rotate nor fold in, they just simply persist>zero accessories to do anything with>can't even pretend he's a scout, because visibility is reduced by approximately 100% with the television set that plugs into his engine
>>11905723probably should've just retooled the Ruckus mold again
>>11905727>the television setthat would've been a cooler alt mode
They should have just done Powermaster Optimus Prime first before doing any other Powermasters. When they do him you know they'll pull out all the stops to make the best figure they can, and if done first he'd be the one to establish how modern Powermasters work. Instead we have Slopride.
Liokaiser finally arrived!
>been years since I took a look at the state of Transformers in my country>check generic toy shop>barely any stock and belongs to the waves released when Rise of the Beasts premiered>check shop focused on nerd shit>deluxes still at 25€, voyagers around 35€>same prices as 10 years ago>menwhile american wallets are being raped and gaped 24/7I don't get it.
>>11905741They did do him in Titans Return
>>11905750Nice
>>11905723>Alt modes simply aren't a priority anymore, which results in shit toys.Hilarious comment to make when your post has that shit picture attached.
>>11905756>I don't get it.US prices in the last decade caught up to the rest of the world and keep moving forward for reasons*People in Asia were paying $22 USD for a deluxe during movie 2 days while American were paying 9.99 for the same thingThe price difference being Americans buy a lot more toys- more value= more sales, even at lower prices. Here what I think is going with the US prices. Not only the American prices have reached equilibrium with rest of the world (the rest of the world got richer too), I think there is also the issue of foreign importers. They have to be paid too, and since the foreign markets still are not as rich as US market, the importers more or less kept a "cap" on how much increase in price they can have. Hasbro being the sole controller for the US market, there is no such limit. And they are squeezing as much as they can out of the current customers because a "cliff" is coming.
>>11905770>toy from the 80's vs 2026
>>11905759No one cares.
>>11905741They've made him multiple times over the years, hell even all three of the Decepticon PM plus Overlord have been made. Of the other three Autobot PMs, only Getaway has gotten a new figure with Joyride and Slapdash getting nothing.
>>11905703>>11905596>>11905598Worse than PotP fists, because a t least those can be used as big hands.
>>11904345>Hasbro conformed the short was a launch for a Netflix series whelp.
>>11905827Hasbro hasn't confirmed anything.
>>11905741Anon after the Decpticon Headmaster Juniors and Horricons mess it is fucking clear they don't follow any guide lines. We are fucking lucky they even keep the same gimmick going with any of this shit
>>11905827>>11905830Whatever is going on it's a mess.
>>11905798weren't anon just asking for him >>11905741
>>11905723>this new space buggy is MOGGED by the old identical space buggyYou sound like such a schizo.
>>11905836This man has barely had voice roles in the last 30 years, I don’t know why he’s so salty about this. I’m pretty sure everyone just thought he retired and just came back for occasional things
>>11905866>identicalIt's amazing how much leftist discourse is simply pretending to not understand what words mean.
>>11905869The last thing he did to my knowledge was Devastation and even than that's already a pretty long time ago now
>>11905870Not beating the schizo allegations.
>>11905723>Alt modes simply aren't a priority anymore, which results in shit toys.I agree with what you're saying but as >>11905770 said you picked a terrible example. I miss when we got pristine vehicle modes at the cost of mildly compromised bot modes that didn't have to be show-accurate
>>11905750Nice, I hope you enjoy them. I got the tracking number for mine today, hopefully it's here tomorrow or Saturday and I can have a weekend full of Leozack and his weird mates.
Poor Superion. You know, Defensor and his forcefield would REALLY come in handy right about now...
>>11905901Bruticus pops out ALOT
>>11905902Yeah he's a big boy, a lot more "3D" then the others if that makes sense. He's got cannons and turrets and helicopter tails and rotors sticking out every which way.
>>11905903More like he is alot more proportional than the others
Feels like the protectoboys never got their chance to shine
>>11905911I only want Hot Spot so Takara can do a new Mega Empress
>>11905911The only chapter where they did anything of note was in BOT
>>11905897Still have to open them, received two other Transformers today and wanted to leave Liokaiser for last. I live in Spain, seems like Hasbro Europe has their warehouses here because checking shipping times on the Pulse site Spain and Portugal have the shortest one, 1-2 days. I guess I'm one of the first backers in Europe to get it and other countries will be receiving theirs over the week. Takara is also going to start shipping soon so the wait is finally over for everyone.
>>11905911The Cartoon never gave them a focus episode, Marvel didn't treat any of the special teams well. They have no defining story or moment.
>>11905911They will. They're the likely combiner team for 28.Of the 3 main Autobot combiners, Defensor was always my favorite.
>>11905911DYING for a new and accurate First Aid.
Computron was always the coolest one, its a such a shame all the autobots combiners are so nondescript compared to the decepticon ones
>>11905911Well, they channeled the "this is needed so the rest of the plot can happen" power and destroyed Bruticus IN A SINGLE SHOT, one of the most broken feats of any character in the entire series.They already peaked at that moment, no need for anything else.Gotta love B.O.T.
>>11905928The Technobots "thing" is that they're "high-tech heroes"... Among alien robots... Debuting in season 3, after the alien robots all started looking like crazy scifi vehicles. They actually do have an origin story, but they're almost as poorly defined as the Protectobots.
>>11905947That and they actually have a few hotheads and gung-ho types on the team, and they combine to form a giant nerd.
>>11905947The most memorable thing of the Technobots is that they were created by Grimlock, kek.
>>11905770Why? It's a cool alt mode. Sure it isn't realistc, but it's still cool. The new space buggy just looks like a slab of shit with a cockpit clipped on top. It doesn't even have the proper ride height to function as an off-road vehicle.>>11905866if you think G1 Sureshot and 2026 whatever-the-fuck Sureshot have "identical alt modes", you're a prime example of how Hasbro can get away with selling this garbage. You don't care about toys. You only care about characters. Almost done with that checklist yet?
>>11905919I'm in the UK and it got booted out the door and in the courier's hands tonight, so hopefully he pitches up soon. Gonna be refreshing the tracking again and again in work tomorrow. Hope your other two Transformers were fun at least, who are they?
>>11905955>You only care about characters. Almost done with that checklist yet?NTA but I see this bit of self-hating cope in these generals a lot, either from many anons or (more likely) the same few over and over again ranting about "checklists".I look at all the other collecting fandoms out there (Star Wars, DC, Marvel, GI Joe, MOTU, etc) and of course they're all allowed to love the characters. That's what most of them are in it for, obviously. It's ONLY a few Transformers "fans" who seem to be aghast at the idea. The characters are 100% what I'm in it for, I can tell you that much. I could still appreciate them as just cool looking robots if it wasn't for that, but I wouldn't be nearly as invested. And I'd probably end up just giving them names/personalities/stories myself anyway.The reason Optimus Prime, for an easy example, is so beloved is because of his CHARACTER. Not for just being "red truck man".
>>11905836that's not a fair assumption in the slightest
>>11905869also, when the lead of a voice cast dies, you generally don't keep going when you're already on remake #15. you quietly retire it.
>>11905872Wasn't he also part of the live script reading of the first episodes of G1 that they released in theaters a couple years ago?
I really wonder what the fuck they're going to do with SS86 Rodimus. The first Commander Rodimus was the only one that undersold expectations, and he did pretty much everything a Rodimus possibly could. The most obvious different direction they could go with is to make him an all-in-one wherein the cab and trailer all form the robot, except there's no way he could end up fitting in studio series scale if they do that.
>>11905983Less tech greeble/more cartoon accurate look and colors. Better face. No sword. It’d still might have the gun platform. Did the G1 cartoon ever have a model of that?
>>11905985Actually, scratch that. I just looked it up and yeah, in the cartoon he was an all in one so that’s the difference that they’re gonna have to engineer. How that’s going to be Commander class will be a mystery.
>>11905959> It's ONLY a few Transformers "fans" who seem to be aghast at the idea.Because Transformers is not a conventional "action figure" toyline. The draw has always been the engineering and functionality of the toys i.e. the transformation. Comparing it to shit like MOTU and Star Wars is disingenuousPeople like Optimus prime for his character, yes but people like transformers as a whole for the idea of cars that transform into robots because it's a novel idea that doesn't really have any viable competitionPeople don't like the checklist shit because it gives Hasbro/Takara the pretext to make more expensive, less enjoyable, and super homogenized slop that lost sight as to what made the franchise successful for so many years, which is why they're failing right now. The same checklisters and "real fans" will also chastize you for liking anything that isn't G1 (especially Kiss Players or Bayverse) and scrutinize any attempt the franchise has to come up with new ideasNobody is saying you can't love your D-List shitter. It just shouldn't come at the cost of the quality of my figures
>>11905983The problem is that nobody actually fucking cares about the battle station, he undersold because he never felt like a proper commander unlike sky lynx or jetfirethough in hindsight this was a foreshadowing for commander optimus and onslaught
>>11905993>People don't likeYou. You don't like. You have autism and can't understand different people appreciate things in different ways from you.
>>11905993>Because Transformers is not a conventional "action figure" toyline.To YOU, maybe not. To me, and thousands of others, yes it very much is.>Comparing it to shit like MOTU and Star Wars is disingenuousNot remotely.You're just one of those "toy engineering ONLY" autists (which you basically admit) combined with good old 4chan contrarianism, which is really just another form of autism.
>>11905996>You have autism and can't understand different people appreciate things in different ways from you.Post with literally no self awareness whatsoever, you people have alienated so many of the pre-2018 and pre-2015 transformers fans to a level you don't even realize. Multiple people have criticized this shit not just in this general but in the wider stretch of the fandom as well. You're accusing me of being the only one against this shit when multiple people have addressed this in the thread already. >>11906000>To me, and thousands of others, yes it very much is.It doesn't matter whether you think it is because by virtue of what it is, it literally isn't and can never be. That's why they have separate toylines for transformers figures that don't transform.>You're just one of those "toy engineering ONLY" autistsToy engineering is what defined the franchise for over 30 years but I'm the autistic one to expect that instead of the blind pursuit of "cartoon accuracy".
>>11905993>The draw has always been the engineering and functionality of the toys i.e. the transformationThis, though I'd still buy a new Action Master line with say, GI Joe level articulation. Just gimme Treadshot and Mainframe, Jackpot and Banzaitron. That'd be cool.
>>11906002>It doesn't matter whether you think it is because by virtue of what it is, it literally isn't and can never be.You think this was profound (or even correct) and it's really really not anon.>That's why they have separate toylines for transformers figures that don't transform.No one is asking for or wants Transformer figures that don't transform. YOU are the one saying because a transformer doesn't transform "good enough" to your liking or you don't like the end result, it's worthless as a figure (despite that only being half of what the figure does).>but I'm the autistic one to expect that instead of the blind pursuit of "cartoon accuracy".Yeah you got me. It is of the utmost importance that I get my cartoon accurate figure of Joyride, the guy who was never in the cartoon. You got me.Yes, you are the autist, and this reply just clinched it.
>>11906008>You think this was profound (or even correct) and it's really really not anon.It's not profound it is actually just the truth. It's the very thing that the franchise is built upon>YOU are the one saying because a transformer doesn't transform "good enough" to your liking or you don't like the end result, it's worthless as a figure (despite that only being half of what the figure does).You're mixing me up with someone else you ignorant retard. You literally just said that you think transformers is a conventional action figure line but conventional action figures do not transform from vehicles to robots. What are you talking about you fucking moron?>but I'm the autistic one to expect that instead of the blind pursuit of "cartoon accuracy".I mentioned cartoon accuracy because the current teams explicitly say thats what they've geared the current lines towards
I haven't ready IDW, but I want the new SS Nautica toy for my fembot collection. I'm also hoping the new Slipstraem and Slash look okay.
>>11905993>I know what ALL the fans want.
>>11906013I'm still missing a Nautica in my collection too, I never even tried for the TM one because it looked like shit.
>>11906008Don't bother. That goof shows up every thread to bitch that everyone else is wrong for buying the current toys so Hasbro won't stop their current practice and make the perfectly engineered super puzzles that he wants
>>11906023Yes because when I think of super complex puzzles I think of "Transformers Cybertron"
>>11906013she doesn't really look much like a fembot tho
>>11905596>>11905598So sad lookingMan
>>11906002>you people have alienated so many of the pre-2018 and pre-2015 transformers fans to a level you don't even realize.This schizo thinks he's talking to the designers or something
>>11905750Still time to flip it and save yourself
>>11906037Save himself from what? A fun toy?
Big reminder that multiple anons who post in this thread haven't purchased a new transformer in the last 10 years.
What cope
>>11906030we're all heard you moaning nonstop about "muh engineering" "it's the engineering, everyone loves" "you're all buying toys wrong"
>>11905958>Hope your other two Transformers were fun at least, who are they?Swindle and Vector Prime, so by pure chance I completed Bruticus and the Thirteen the same day I got Liokaiser.
Starscream came in from Target, plus the Cyberworld Megatron I added to get free shipping which more or less paid for itself.Nice to have Starscream and complete the trio finally but more surprising to me was the little bull Megatron. Reminds me of Core class which I miss. Fun little dude. Gonna pick up the other Cyberworld stuff if they're all like this guy. I loved Core class
>>11906060Yeah cyberworld toys would be awesome if they just had elbows.
>>11906023Yeah I'm done with him. I see him every thread and he's very easy to spot. The thing is I almost feel sorry for him, I would never call him an autist, etc. if he wasn't such an annoying and aggressive asshole every thread. I'm usually very live and let live and think this guy should be free to enjoy TFs for whatever reason he wants.But so are the rest of us.
>>11906106that said his complaint about joyride having no gun is legit
>>11906107He's not entirely wrong about that, but it is what it is. I just headcanon him as a Cybertronian boxer (even though I'm not allowed to view TFs as characters apparently) from when I saw him in a fighting stance on his box art.That said...most of us have a million spare guns laying around from various figures, so it's not like it's hard to arm him up. I also wonder why he even cares that a figure he had no intention of buying doesn't have a gun.
>>11905993this is also why Beast Wars did so well (and why people still love Machine Wars)They finally had tons of great joints, so they were playable in at least one if not both modes in really fun ways, AND they still transformed properly, you just had to manually position a few things and tab them in. Before that, it was brick city, and directly after that, a LOT of it returned to brick (but not all).
>>11906107Most of what he says looks legit to me, but I am skimming and having trouble keeping track of the argument.
>>11906108>most of us have a million spare guns laying around from various figuresI unironically do not give a shit, every figure HAS to have a gun, its inexcusable onslaught doesnt have one
>>11906121Yeah Onslaught 100% needed a gun, at commander price he better come strapped the fuck up.I think they were really trying to make Swindle's trailer becoming a gun a thing, and have Onslaught and/or Bruticus just use that. But that's telling people how to enjoy their toys (hey, sound familiar?) and really not cool on Hasbro's part.
>>11906108Not the autist but I might have bought Joyride if he had a gun. I'm not going to pay for Hasbro to stiff me on accessories.
>>11906127remember when they tried to sell us Cheetor without a fucking gun. then cheetor in better colors, but with missing paint apps. and then finally proper cheetor, still without a gun?I would love to see an investigation reveal some kind of cahootz with them and the 3P companies, which would then rip open a huge hole in how chinese 'companies' have infiltrated everything in america to ruin it.
>>11906133I hope you understand that “ DNAkit secretly working with Hasbro” is just a memeAnd memes are just that
>>11905737Literally yeah, just say he's now a moving van
>>11906126I look forward to Commander the most every year so Onslaught was that much more disappointing.
>>11905947IDW2 did them okay
>>11906159IDW2 is severely underrated
>>11906133>I would love to see an investigation reveal some kind of cahootz with them and the 3P companies, which would then rip open a huge hole in how chinese 'companies' have infiltrated everything in america to ruin it.anon you really gotta get off the paranoid China boogieman shit.The amount of 3P kits that are even produced is almost certainly such a small fraction compared to what Hasbro makes that it'd barely make a dent in what they sell internationally. There's probably up to 100K units of any given retail toy made and if there's 10K of any given upgrade kit I'd be surprised. Even big 3P figures production runs are speculated to be around 3,000-5,000. It's a far smaller figure than people may think.random niche, fan targeted toy companies are not some front for the CCP to infiltrate American business. China absolutely does shady business practices but they're targeting things in the hundreds of millions and billions, not two or three thousand $40 expansion kits. At that point you might as well look in your walls for Chinamen.
>>11906168>starts off as slow as molasses>includes the screw holes and other shit from the toys because reasons>Sentinel's actually fun>Cliffjumper's actually fun>Technobots are actually fun>Deathsaurus is always fun>the three for free guy seems interesting, wonder if he'll be Magmatron later>actually picking up nicely, likewise with Beast Wars, things are going to be alright>gone foreverMan...
>>11906174I liked the slow start and buildup of that comic. It was very Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones like almost with the world-building, with the backdrop of a past war and all these namedrops before the massive Autobot/Decepticon war we know is coming. It was the ending that was way too rushed and it showed, with plot points being dropped and loose ends everywhere.I'd say that continuity had the coolest (or close to it) portrayals of Skywarp, Smokescreen, Swindle, and the Constructicons we've ever gotten.
>>11906030Cybertron was shit, I was buying Alternators instead.
>>11905717>>11905604>>11905598The powermaster slots on a single piece that goes to the back in robot mode and is barely involved in the transformation.Couldn't they have made the powermaster smaller and have a spring loaded retractable sheet/pane so it sinks flush below the window?
>>11906148I mean, it's not a huge leap. I came up with the idea independently. I'm not saying I have proof, I just think an investigation is in order. Government bureaucracy is blowing our tax money regardless, it should at least do some good. but it won't.
>>11906178I think the build-up was over a year and possibly with monthly releases, I can't even remember, it's just that yeah mid-exodus they pulled the plugSkywarp was terrifying and fun, Smokescreen was fun as well, Swindle was Swindle, I was again very impressed with the Technobots being defined and upgraded that early on
>>11906229You didn’tThe meme has been going for years
>>11906243But it came to me in a dream while I was in Tibet
>>11905983It's honestly a shame because in some ways this was the ideal Rodimus, turning his battle platform into an actual trailer on top of giving it base connectors was probably the best thing you could do with it since the original couldn't do shit.My only gripe with it was that I think the car half stuck out too much in vehicle mode.
>>11905983>>11906245Free battle platform, head's similar to Marvel so I quickly warmed up to it, unnecessary ramp port thing that has no relevance now but you can easily remove it, the only tiny issues or puzzles were the car sticking out slightly more, and whatever that front pocket of the trailer is meant to contain, but that's about itI'll sleep contentedly hugging my Rodimus, knowing that the next one is going to be twice the price and half the size, being able to transform from cab+trailer into one robot at the cost of having hollow bits or like, no waist rotation or something incredibly basic
Fuck BBTS. I am the fucking guy who had to pay 50 CAD for shipping. I just realized I had a Godzilla preordered and it would have cost me about 70 CAD or more (I just added some other Godzilla that was in stock)and then I had to pay 20 cad non refundable deposited to cancel it lmao fuck this site I was so excited for their flat rate too
>>11905878CHUG was a huge step down with the bullshit "MAH REALIZM VEHICLE MODE" abominations and God knows how many figures were garbage and had to be redone down the line. (Ironically, Sunstreaker was one of the few GOOD figures from Generation and still is the only GOOD Sunstreaker toy made, but Sideswipe and others like him were a dumpster fire of fail and AIDS)
>>11905993>The same checklisters and "real fans" will also chastize you for liking anything that isn't G1I found people the other day who were still going TRUK NOT MUNKEY unironically in 2026 and on /co/there were gen xers shitting on the g1 movie toys because they were too different (and probably legitimate flaws idk) It's just crazy to me how people never let go lol
>>11906259Anyone who recommends BBTS overseas should be castrated
>>11906243that's what the word 'independently' means.
Power Masters were always dumb but I'll take modern Joyride who actually has legs and can move his arms out over having to hold a button down to unlock transformation. Targetmasters are way cooler with their gimmick of robot guns
>>11906263I'm okay with the vehicle vs beast argument, that sounds like a fun nerd time.I am solidly in MUNKEY NOT TRUK myself, but I'm very open to, for example, a pachycephalosaurus who transforms into a tank-like robot, with a chest that has tank-like front armor skirts and a shoulder-mounted tank turret made out of the tail and the armored head. Or a... uhh... hen. A henformer who ends up with a jackhammer for legs like that movie guy. You get what I'm laying down, right? an elephant that ends up with wheel feet in robot mode.....
>>11906133>remember when they tried to sell us Cheetor without a fucking gunYes I do!
>>11906271har har. but yes, I hated that about transmetals. I'm okay with the shift to metallic animals, even if the organic robot modes were never great, and I can even get behind the weird cyborgy stuff of TM2, but their weapons were garbo. Greta garbo. And the transformations usually suffered pretty hard too. You could see it in the show, they had so little to do now.
>>11906007We got that three times over. Super7 failed because of the toys were loose as heck, obscenely expensive, and garbage character selection (didn't even get Ratchet or Ironhide, or the Datsuns, or the rest of the Seekers)RED wasted too many roster spots on TF Prime and BW characters (the later of which came out the same time WFC Trilogy was doing BW figures) and while affordable and better quality, had shit selection because those roster spots got taken and the best two characters (Galvatron and Shockwave) were rare as fuck due to low production runs because those TF Prime/BW figures pegwarmed like crazyBlockees ironically has done the best, wholesale imitating Action Masters in scale and giving them GI Joe tier articulation and price. To the point I'm still shocked Hasbro hasn't tried to keep them from being sold in the US.
>>11906268Power Masters were the better characters though. Darkwing and Dreadwind were cool and their Power Master partners were actually fleshed out characters (a career thief and a scientist who got fucked over by the Nebulon Government and wanted revenge)
>>11906273> You could see it in the show, they had so little to do nowI think that was intentional, the Transmetals were definitely influenced by the show in that all but Rampage and Depth Charge were designed as season 1 characters, so that they would be available in the following year. The simpler transformations were probably also done so that Mainframe could animate them closer to the toys. At the time it was pretty mind blowing how show accurate they were on the whole, faces aside.
>>11906290You really think so? I feel like it makes a lot more sense for the toys to deliberately simplify down because they were either lazy, had trouble with the third modes, or felt kids were having too much trouble with the previous ones. (then again, Tigerhawk was a bitch to transform) The CG models benefit from having simpler transformations in a way, but once they animated them once, they were able to just recycle that animation over and over from different angles and even modifying the stances (though they DID redo them sometimes, to suit angles that looked funny)
>>11906274I'll give Super7 something though, that their Megatron is the best god-damn G1 Megatron on the market and the one I have is pretty good and not loose as fuck like Bludgeon was. Way superior than anything Hasbro has put out, in terms of bullshit compromise modes.
>>11906297what in the dink am I looking at here? a new black lio? did he get a supermode? a new... Bluebolts?>>11906301I was very tempted to get their alligaticon. Still kinda am.
>>11906262you realize Transformers started as toys with realistic alt modes, right?
>>11906300holy shit they're actually using the nameI know it's not Hasbro but still
>>11906307You WILL kiss the robot.
>>11906313I mean I'd gladly kiss a fembot but I think in this case I'd rather be the robot getting kissed
>>11906295I imagine it was mainly for the synergy of it, no reason to make up wholly fake transformations and design elements if it can be helped, and advertises the product better. I read somewhere, and I don't think it was sourced so take it with a grain of salt, that Kenner worked with Mainframe on the Transmetal designs so maybe it was something hashed out that would work for both of them. Well, maybe not the lack of weapons since Mainframe ended up making gimmicks up.Initially Mainframe's plans for BW took a lot more creative liberties(like Rattrap's concept) before being dialed down to extreme toy accuracy before becoming something in the middle. Plus I imaging the CGI costs for the third modes would be dialed way down if they were just slightly modified beast modes rather than whole new models they'd have to rig.
>>11906302Probably Dark Amber Lio
>>11906107If you've been collecting for enough time you probably have a spare bag filled with random guns for him. I have 5 white CW aerial bot ones.
>>11906303and they sucked>>11906324I'm just saying, they could have gone with transformations more akin to the likes of Cheetor and Dinobot, where body parts actually move around in creative ways, instead of everyone either standing up or folding into a backpack that sits atop a tiny robot. That would still suit all the concerns you listed.>Mainframe's plans were weirder before being dialed down to extreme toy accuracyokay that explains a lot, I couldn't make sense of the timeline because I've seen both, and they don't mesh. Interesting.>>11906327ohh. I look forward to once again not being able to afford one. le sigh. I wish someone would pay me to design transformers. They'd only neuter the designs anyway and make them into shitty, overpriced toys, but..
>>11906300Thank you Takara. I want Rosanna, but not Jem Blaster.
>>11906300Imagine how butthurt the TFwiki guys are right now
I think this is out first look at Guzzle and Cybershark.
>>11906302I wonder if it's just the America Star bird repackaged or its a new deco.>>11906297
>>11906342Star Eagle had the airazor head. Its definitely a new deco.
>>11906300Makes sense they'd sell these separately, Jem Blaster means nothing in their market. It's weird enough as it is here.>>11906307>they're actually using the nameWhy wouldn't they? Only the western fanbase freaks out over KP, it was never controversial in Japan. It's still a major part of JG1.
>>11906341I want to fucking murder these people. Even Takara Tomy is serious in not fixing Nexus Prime. TAKARA TOMY, YOU TRAITORS!!!
>>11906297Hard to see which Lio this could be, but Bluebolts does imply this is Dark Amber, a shame Untite didn't get a new toy to go with them.
>>11906341Not really a shocker, but Guzzle is just a head swap. I know this is weird to point, but Nonnef was working on a Brawl conversion kit to turn it into Guzzle, so we might be able to make it more accurate (Nonnef takes an eternity to make things and he might just cancel it without saying a word).
>>11906341oh hey, cybershark..>>11906343come to think of it, assuming Premium Finish was the only Kingdom figures Takara's had so far, that means they missed out on the recolors.. there's no way they wouldn't want Skywarp, so maybe that's their version of him.Come to think of it.. what if they put out a more toy-accurate Grimlock.. that'd be nuts, right? did Japan even get him? Probably not.
>>11906341why would they do another cybershark when we just got one this year or late last year
>>11906370That was at least two years ago and it was a recreation of his old toywhat we got recently was his transmetal 2 recolor, Sky-Byte.
>>11906342They were both in the comic together so I think we're getting the comic accurate decosjesus how many air razor remolds and repaints do we have now?
>>11906347Takara made the Nexus Prime toy wdym
Oh shit this means there is hope for a grown up Leo Convoy Junior or who ever that was. Leo Convoy in Junior colors. and Galva Convoy. Maybe even weirder stuff from Legends.
>>11906270Yeah I loved robotic animals so much I never got why Hasbro almost completely abandoned BW. Well BM was really bad but still. >Dinobots and Ravage>Voltron>Power Rangers >Zoids maybeWere fucking huge. And probably more or lesser known ones I'm forgetting. Even recently beastbox has been great.
>>11906259>CADYou're getting fucked because that alone
>>11906390>Leo Convoy in Junior colorsI'd buy the fuck out of that.. if someone could just loan me 60 dollars plus import fees..
>>11906394beastbox is very tempting, the only thing holding me back is the price, and the fact that the proportions or articulation are often held back by the need to become a box. I have like five of them, and I regret one and a half of them. They live on my Zoids shelf because they basically are Zoids. I used to also have my transformers movie guys up there, since there was a brief sub-line of 'Bio Zoids' that had the same 'robot skeleton' look as the movie Dinobots etc. But now I have enough movie guys for them to have their own shelf.
>>11906355>Hard to see which Lio this could beGiven he has blue eyes and is with Bluebolts, he can only be Dark Amber.
>>11906401Its weirdly better to import from Japan right now because its still stronger than the yen and it was never that much better than the yen anyways except for their insane prices sometimes but that's why hunting for stuff on Yahoo japan auctions and mandarake is more fun now. I just got this guy for a good deal because he was missing a mirror. I haven't even been able to see listings for the GTR line anywhere for sane prices and they retailed for a lot back when they were new. Unless I'm just shit at finding the right Japanese for if.
>>11906446ForGTRess Maximus??
>>11906297I will probably get this amber leo
THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWNTHE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN
>>11906056That's cool, anonCongrats Hey, Combaticons(plus Shockwave) and Breastforce vs the 13 comes out to even numbers in a fight>>11906060
>>11906389THEY ALL FUCKED UP NEXUS PRIME TO THE WORST WAY IMAGINABLE! I always expect the guy to be a combiner using similar parts as the FunPub version, but no, we got a shitty Studio Series One version pretool and equally shitty limbs with low effort remolding/recoloring and NO FUCKING FRAME FOR ALL OF THIS! And now Takara Tomy is releasing these limbs as-is, meaning the hope that Takara Tomy is salvaging Nexus Prime is gone. Fuck my life, we're never getting a good Nexus Prime ever again!
>>11906470I'm sorry it turned out this way for your favourite character
>>11906347>>11906470Takara doesn't give a fuck about some funpub fanfic character.
>>11906481No one really does, the idea is neat but anything that came out of the cons was met with at best lukewarm reception. Even Shattered Glass isn't that well received and it's continuation of products getting made is more in how it's cheap to just do a purple Prime or white Star Scream.
>>11906470Well there's your problem anon, for a good new Nexus Prime toy to happen we need the Energon/Superlink Combiners to return but because Hasbro is hesitant on that series due to it's PR despite leaks showing we're getting Energon Scorponok next year, you can blame Hasbro for gimping Nexus Prime.
>>11906506Honestly I think the only reason Nexus Prime even happen was how he got roped in the 13. Say in another universe this 13 Prime bullshit never happen, Prime was just a name/rank with no special attachments. a good 8 of these 13 would have never been made for this line.
>>11906566The sales haven't been that hot for anything that isn't G1 and/or Optimus Prime. Even now most AoP figures that are not based on S1,S2 G1 cast from years ago you can still get at retail price and cheaper. Hell most Legacy figures that are not G1 based are at retail price or cheaper and some of those are 7 years old products now. That shit was unheard of 15 years ago.
>>11906566They could've retooled the existing Onslaught and it'd be better than what we got
Hasbro Pulse is shipping out Gravedigger.
>>11906623Amazon gave me mine two weeks ago lmao
>>11906568>Say in another universe this 13 Prime bullshit never happen, Prime was just a name/rank with no special attachments. a good 8 of these 13 would have never been made for this line.Most wouldn't even exist. Even the Fallen and Vector Prime were created for the 13.
>>11906568>>11906644>13 Primes made>10 shit toys, two good ones, and one people don't want to count as a member anyway because it's a fucking stupid decision>Quintessons>Every toy is amazingQuintesson origin wins again
>>11906481They sure do, haven't you seen Sakamoto's comics? For all the dick riding you do for Takara you don't seem to know much about them.
Why is he called Dark Amber Lio Convoy when he’s not dark amber in color
>>11906673Because he forgot how to spell
>>11906644People say his about Vector but he had no connection to the 13 in the show or original toy which is what they care about. So the effect is the same as Alpha Trion where he feels tossed in later.
>>11906644>Even the Fallen and Vector Prime were created for the 13.Incorrect. Fallen was a leftover idea from Furman's Marvel comics run that was repurposed as a fallen Prime. Furman has openly admitted several times the 13th number of Primes was more a Hasbro idea in 2005 than his. Vector Prime was Japanese Transformers concept that was just poached over here when the 13 number thing started.That's what is most fuck up about the whole ordeal was Hasbro wanted a big number, Furman pick 13 and then they retroactively took Prime ideas from older materials to get the 13 out of it.
>>11906644>>11906681>>11906683The first mention of any print of the 13 came in 2006. Anything before that is subject to exist prior to it.
>>11906652Sakamoto isn't Takara, he makes content that demands certain toys be put in to push sales and they don't give a fuck about the rest, much like how the Marvel run's and really all other media would just have stuff put in it that was never at the request of Hasbro/Takara, the creator just wanted that shit put in there.
>>11906681Aaron Archer came up with Vector Prime intending to add him to the 13 because he liked the concept.Without the 13, Vector may well have never been conceived.
>>11906685You mean 2004.
>>11906689Half right. Aaron Archer didn't create Vector Prime or come up with him, the idea was a mix of GONZO writing a character who could travel through spacetime to summon different characters from across the multiverse and Don Figueroa concept art shows they had a reality traveler idea in mind with all the Giant Robo reference in the design. Archer turning him into a Prime came much later in production.
>>11906693Did anyone ever upload a recording of Aaron Archer's panel about the creation of Vector Prime from last year?
>ITT: Subjectanon asks for a loan, threatens to kill Takara toy designers and then starts up another comic book related discussion lol, lmao even
I feel nothing. Is it the toy or am I dead inside?
>>11906707I mean he looks pretty hype but haslabs are so overpriced for what they are
>>11906712Kind of regret not keeping in it minty, though I was getting hyped by the individual bots, Drillhorn especially of all of them, but sitting there on my desk, combined... nothing. Torn between flipping him now or hanging on a while to see if he grows on me...
>>11906707>or am I dead inside?you're shitposting on /toy/ what do you think?
>>11906714You might try posing it
>>11906691source on that? even the wiki just leads to dead links and"dude trust me" type pages.
>>11906722Good point>>11906723The stand isn't that good, two 5mm pegs in his arse, and even if the ratchets are, not risking a tumble. He's back in his box and scheduled for sale on eBay now anyway, unless I suddenly change my mind in the next three hours. Doubt it.
>>11906728>he needs the stand to pose the figure Its better you sell it
>>11906456Yeah Fort Max just wanted to race with cute flag girls dont worry about it
>>11906707No you're dead on the outside. Look behind you.
>>11906693>Don Figueroa concept art shows they had a reality traveler idea in mind with all the Giant Robo reference in the design. Archer turning him into a Prime came much later in production.Please tell me you have the concept art I loved the Giant Robo OVA so much
>>11905927Maybe you're joking but I unironically would love these. This is simplistic at its peak.
>>11906693>, the idea was a mix of GONZO writing a character who could travel through spacetime to summon different characters from across the multiversehow does this work exactly? I thought Gonzo was just working off the toy designs already conceived by Hasbro/Takara.
>>11906745Sold everything else I have this (except for 2 figs) including deathsaurus, so fuck it>>11906749Finally>gif related
>>11906755>I thought Gonzo was just working off the toy designs already conceived by Hasbro/Takara.not if thunderblast has to say anything about it
>>11906707It looks pretty underwhelming, the visible wings being hollow makes this something I wouldn't want to pay $100 for let alone what, $300?
>>11906759£300 great British pounds. Hard to say I regret it, it was bought and payed for over a year ago, might still make a profit.
>>11906707You're dead inside bruh.I had a bit of buyer's remorse after I ordered him last year, and started to tell myself "yeah I probably didn't really NEED that, maybe I'll flip him once he arrives".Then he arrived and I put him together and I became "yeah no...that's actually pretty damn nice".
>>11906704The weakest takara employee could kill him and still have time to eat lunch
>>11906767I was building him, the lower half - they nailed it - upper half proportions feel a little off in hand. A bot of two halves. I think I like the individual bots better, even if some of them are absolute pin heads. Drillhorn and Killbisons leg transformation is really nice. The way the panels open to extend and then collapse back together. I enjoy that.
>>11906704This is your brain on no toys
>>11906770>a little off The chest bot is like 1/2 the size it should be
>>11906707I was having a blast with the boobieforce earlier. Sorry anon >>11906767 is right you're dead inside.
>>11906758they just added underboob to the toy design though.
>>11906649Two good???Half of them are goodAnd what do you mean by Quintessons? Like Earthrise Quintesson Judge and the Alicorn stuff?
>>11906707It's the toyYou're normal and they're all sack huffing it. It's a fucking jokeHuge clunky ass limbs, barely poseable, Looks awful and each individual is so bad and chunkyThere's just so much ass
>>11906755Everything about UT is a dumpster fire due to it's rush nature and everything being a first time for both companies. Galaxy Force was conceived as it's own thing separate from the last two series and Hasbro blunt forced that into being connected to the Armada(Micron Legend)and Energon(Super Link) series. Concept art for these series were people like Don Figueroa and Takashi Kumazen but it's never clear where one begins and ones ends. Most information we have makes it seem like Armada/Micron Legend started as a Hasbro designed toy line and lore that as thing went on progressed over to more heavy to a Takara one with everything going separate ways for Hasbro to work on the 2007 live action movie for then Animated and Prime series to be fully Hasbro with little to no influence with Takara. Takara still did a lot of it's own things like the Go series but the collaboration work with shows was over after Galaxy Force/Cybertron likely due to how poorly both parties work things out and having their own visions for the brand. tldr: it was just clustered mess because the goal was to sell toys and little else.
WHY THE FUCK IS THE COMMANDER G1 OPTIMUS $139 THIS PRICING IS COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTROL
>>11906834>tldr: it was just clustered mess because the goal was to sell toys and little else.That kinda describes literally any TF series.
>>11906707It has issues, but it's fine. Also, panic selling something because you don't instantly love it is bad move, since you might not be in the mood to enjoy it. I remember getting MPG Super Ginrai, and couldn't even touch it after it arrived, but once I had it for a few weeks, i liked it so much that I got Nucleon Quest and God Bomber.
>>11906838No reissue. It doesn't help that Hasbro is also selling Damaged Prime, Skybound Prime and next year Dead Prime with the same mold, so we might have to wait even longer for a reissue.
>>11906840True, The only two that somewhat escaped this was Animated because it was being made at the same time the film was in production and advertising so they were a lot more hands off and Beast Wars because the brand was all but dead at the time so they were more experimental. That said both started to have issues in their last season because of Hasbro and toys.
Nah Cybertron toys were awesome. That's when Transformers started getting real good and led to the first generations and movie toys, both of which have a bit of Cybertron in their dna.
>>11906845Yeah, I wish they kept the minicons with Cybertrons superior toys. I feel like the only toys that did the minicons justice were Cyclonus and Megatron.
>>11906838????????
>>11906838Not sure where you live, but he frequently shows up around 80-90 on Ebay.
>>11906847They were still selling minicons during Cybertron as well both as partners (Gigalonia characters and Vector Prime) as well as the Recon team.But minicons were arguably one of the best gimmicks the franchise ever had which is why they managed to last for about 10 years
>>11906677Ohh is it supposed to be Umber instead of Amber? Even still, that would be a very dark brown, not graphite gray
>>11906506i want more SG beast wars guys
>>11906870which, weirdly, is the dark lio mane color we got, his OTHER dark selfI might paint mine properly black at some point
>>11906863I know, but most characters had no compatibility, not even dead ports. Only the Gigantion trio, Vector, and Primus had any ports, from what I remember.
>>11906884Covering a toy in nipples was a dumb gimmick anyway.
>>11906756sorry to hear that. hope it isn't just temporary depression.
>>11906844that's a good point, those ended up being the best series and sold some of the very best toys.what made Prime so good then, I wonder
>>11906728>The stand isn't that good, two 5mm pegs in his arse, and even if the ratchets are, not risking a tumble.The stand is just designed to have Liokaiser in an A stance. This is actually one of the most fun to pose combiners and you don't need a stand for that.It's a shame you're not able to enjoy it. I can totally get feeling a bit let down after waiting more than a year and a half, the shortcomings, compromises and weird design choices are still totally there. But nonetheless after opening it yesterday I spent almost four hours messing with it without even noticing, so for me this thing is a winner.
>>11906908As for poseability, your photo isn’t really proving much at all
>>11906897Prime did ok it's first season but it's clear by the second one interference was starting to strain the creation processes. Signs of it were there in season one but it was operating well enough, season 2 was when you could tell Hasbro was too hands on with things and it was causing problems. Mind you Prime was very costly to make at about 1.5 Million an episode and Hasbro was trying to get them to get seasons out in ten months time which is break neck speed to the size and scale of the show where the amount of episodes they wanted would normally take two years or more to happen. Note Hasbro was planning the show at 78 episodes in total over 3 years time. So it was already tight but with Hasbro's back and forth on topics like "No Beasts robots" to "put Beast Robots in it!" and the weird ass "Make Optimus Prime Green and tan!" fights that just eroded things down to 65 total and the send off movie which was basically funded by Margaret Loesch as she liked the show enough that she wanted it to have a proper send off.
>>11906908>tiny head >tiny chest >tiny hands >tiny feet>giant forearms >giant backpack>giant pelvis >giant shins Yeah this thing’s proportions are fucked even worse than I thought
>>11906893As opposed to covering them with holes?
>>11906917
>>11906920Why are you defending frameslop though
>>11906920>The SAME retarded zoomerfag who keeps posting Twitter brainrot tier meme shitYou gotta rope already man, Tired of seeing your retarded absurdly low quality shit
>>11906914ohh that movie makes so much more sense now.good for her
>>11906913I mean, at the end on the day it's a Hasbro combiner. You're not going to get revoltech poses out of it, but it has all the articulation points of a modern Transformer and it can hold these poses even taking into account that it is way heavier than a regular figure. If you find modern Transformers articulation acceptable enough, this thing is the same. At the end of the day it's fun to handle instead of being a cumbersome or wobbly mess.>>11906915That's the typical 90s anime combining super robot look for you. It looks like a Brave character and that's always a good thing in my book.I'm not one of those who will defend toys just because they're expensive, in fact, it's the opposite. There's plenty of things I think could be improved upon since the very firsts pics surfaced, but articulation and combined mode looks are fine to me.Do I think it's way too expensive? Yeah. Am I having lots of fun with it? Also yeah. So all in all I don't regret getting it. And the good thing is, if you do regret it (and, again, I totally understand why) you can easily sell it like that other anon is going to do.
>>11906937man I hear that noise.
>>11906871>the monkey's paw curls>HasTak announces Ultra Mammoth and Magnaboss toys
>>11906937Does it have an ab crunch?
>>11906949as much as I don't love the new Big mold, I'd buy a recolor of it... at a heavy discountas for Magnaboss, I have zero faith they can pull him off. He's just not a great design, all things considered. Tripredacus would be a lot easier, he only needs the parts count upped on the arm-bots so they can have proper hands, and tiny proportion tweaking to their robot modes.
>>11906914>l and the send off movie which was basically funded by Margaret LoeschI read through the credits of the '86 movie for the first time in my 25 years of watching it, and I was surprised to see Loesch was also a producer on it. It's amazing how many definitive boy's TV shows she was part of in the 80's and 90's in some way, she really had an eye for winners. She ran Fox kids and was the one to buy Power Rangers and X-men for the network and also had some hand in Batman TAS.
>>11906834>Everything about UT is a dumpster fire due to it's rush nature and everything being a first time for both companies. Galaxy Force was conceived as it's own thing separate from the last two series and Hasbro blunt forced that into being connected to the Armada(Micron Legend)and Energon(Super Link) series.Yes as a show, we know that, but as a toyline? We know Hasbro employees thought up of the multiverse/planet hopping idea and worked out the initial ideas on a napkin, they worked on the toys with Takara, Takara had Gonzo make the show and they chose to do their own continuity(or Takara didn't communicate that it was meant to be a sequel or couldn't due to the change in studios for whatever reason)
>>11906834>>11906974And Takara will tell you the plan was reality hopping stuff that Hasbro thought was over kids heads and wanted planet keys instead. That's the messy part, you are getting two stories based on which side of the pond you live.
>>11906977>And Takara will tell you the planWhere will Takara tell me that? Not doubting just curious. I know there's usually compilation books in Japanese for any given series along with Generations that gives insight, but Aaron Archer has the podcast he does which tends to give clear insight. IIRC, from Aaron Archer's talk about it's development it was something like>the Hasbro team considered doing reality hopping so they could have, say, Cheetor show up>Hasbro higher ups thought it was too confusing and might be difficult to pull off so they shifted to planet jumping
I'm putting together a team
>>11906984Team garbage toys?
>>11906984Team Fallen Heroes with flawed ideals
>>11906984That's three skips from me.
ahaha they kicked jem blaster out, he had some cool accessories actually, maybe he'd stay if they transformed like animated ratbat & laserbeak.i genuinely thought they'd leave him in so that they can have a scene in new legends where blaster takes in the energy of synergy (covered in shadow to avoid copyright but new legends is all deep cuts so you're expected to know) and uh... makes the 13 primes good? destroys them? blesses the next universe? i don't know what the fuck the plot is.
>>11906984is megabee MAGAbee or something?
>>11906986What's wrong with Star Eagle?
>>11907004
>>11907006Absolutely nothing. The problem is that she's a symbol of American national pride, and the literal Nazis (sorry, Socialists) who've infested the left absolutely despise the very concept of America and everything it stands for.
>>11906998Holy fuck kiss players from takara
>>11907011Holy based! Buying MegaBee right now!
>>11906998>11906998Sexual relations with Rosanna
>>11907019>she's a symbol of American national prideThe peregrine falcon?
>>11907011it's a $30 minibot, sales were already gonna be shit and with this killing any remaining interest from half the target audience megabee is destined to flop
>>11907019We got Nazi communists now? Heil Brother Mao!
>>11906998Note that Rosanna still has her guns, and those are molded with Blasters new accesories, so who knows, maybe they'll include them in different colors.
>>11907019...What? It's because the kingdom Airazor's bird mode is shite. It's not even about Star Eagle specifically.
>>11906984Now throw in the upcoming KP cassettes and you have a team the mere sight of which will literally kill a tf wiki mod
>>11907011>>11907026>>11907035The short came out well over a week ago and is still playing and it have the controversy of it not being the OG bee but no one gave a shit who replaced him because he's a nobody. Not only are you so late to this bate is stale as fuck you are trying to use ten year old political memes from 2016 to sir the pot I know the goal was (You)s but come one anon you can do something that doesn't show you are some old /pol/ fag stuck in the past.
>>11907043until you mentioned /pol/ I completely forgot what Babylon Bee was and further still had no idea they were still a thing.
>>11906984>Mentally delusional and retarded redditor thinks he's funny
>>11907052Delusional yes but that's the most anti reddit lineup he could have without involving kiss players
>>11906974this is hilarious.. I could have done better than this at like, 19.
>>11907011what the..how did they hire him and why does tfwiki think he's cool
>>11907030you know it, man.eagles are great and all, but.. peregrine falcons are photogenic, enjoy being on camera, and divebomb shit stupid fast like.>>11907036always have been. look into what happened before they became 'enemies' and then look at what happened directly after one was taken out.
>>11907105Something like this is meant more for illustrating ideas quick to other people, they weren't necessarily showing Takara this napkin and asking them to work from it. It's just a quick rough graph in the early stages. We don't get to see much of it but there's lots of sketches done to work out ideas that aren't necessarily going to be perfect. The other thing is art skills is only part of it. A good chunk of it is being able to work with other people well and organize. And unfortunately a lot of TF fans are autists. So it's not as easy as it may look.
>>11907119Also on that note>>11906693>Half right. Aaron Archer didn't create Vector Prime or come up with him,Aaron Archer says he came up with Vector Prime herehttps://x.com/tfwiki/status/1571184735212142593?lang=fa
I wonder if this guy knows that people don't really grade transformers like they do games and cards
>>11907125They aren't graded like that yet.
>>11907125Well they have to do something after the rapening nintendo has done towards scalpers
>>11907119fair. >>11907125>>11907126technically it's made up, you can grade anything you want and invent value for it. it's just retarded
>>11906984Yes, but what Transformers toy can represent Benjamin Netanyahoo, their true master and ruler?
>>11907132Blot
>>11907052It's always funny people try to make Jazz black when his Pretender toy is a white dude
>>11907132benjy is the reddit king? hello?
>>11907150reminds me of how Bebop in TMNT mutated from a medium brown skinned dude, and even kept his dyed purple hair as the warthog's mane, somehow, perhaps because it was already in a mohawk..but when they did a 'mutatin' figure, it would have been boring to have him change so little, so they made his human form white with orange hair and different colored glasses
>>11907150Cause he's pretending, duh.
>>11907150>>11907173That joke has already been made officially, so it's a dead meme now.
>>11907228hehehehe
>>11907150Yeah but I mean Scatman Crothers was black
>>11907232https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN4oysWz4Ro
>>11907150Michael Jackson was the ultimate Pretender.>>11907232The character's name is also fucking JAZZ
>>11907232>>11907236plenty of white people do those same dialects, that's where it came from in the first place, but yes. In the eyes of culture, that's always been 'a black thing'
>>11907232VA being black doesn't mean the character is
>>11907232Phil LaMarr's black. Didn't stop him from voicing a Japanese dude.
>extremely loose kneesTakara quality strikes againI am not exactly happy with Gen Optimus either...
>>11907251I agree, the race of the VA shouldn’t prevent anyone acting a characterBut Phil put on a Japanese accent, Jazz sounds like a black man, at least G1 Jazz does
>>11907272Animated Jazz was also Phil Lamarr
>>11907273Yeah, but he was playing as samurai jack
>>11907276Sorry, your post made it sound like you were unsure if the G1 Jazz actors were also black.Turns out, they always are.
>>11907280If the non G1 Jazz actors, rather.
>>11907150>Jazz's shitty pretender shell from 1989 has seniority over his voice since 1984
Don't lean on me man, cause you can't afford the ticketBack from Autobot City!
>>11907311>alternate timeline where Kranix's ship escapes to Earth instead of Quintessa for him to die horribly>dies horribly anyway in imminent Decepticon attack
>>11907311i like that Kranix is welcomed with the rest of the Autobots.
>>11907304Jazz's 1980's voice actor being black is proof of the white genocide, didn't you know??
>>11907329Read the room mate, take your shit back to /pol/
>>11907311>>11907317>Greetings from Autobot City, where nothing bad ever happens!
>>11907311You should get the Magnus shoulder upgrade kit
>>11907311>The missing dinobot is not SnarlYou're doing it wrong!
>>11907348There are no missing dinobots, they’re all in the movieIt’s just only 4 at a time
>>11907348>>11907351Snarl appears in a couple frames but he's absent once they leave autobot city.
Why isn't Wild King sold on Hasbro Pulse? You don't even need to translate the show, anyone frequenting Pulse is a freak who would be totally into that, they'd still move units
>>11907365Many have wondered this.
>>11906271Trabsmetal Cheetor was a top tier toy, no gun required. Just imagine the half-cheetah-head gauntlets blast lasers like the show or imagine the whip/sword weapon sends out laser Shockwave when you strike it. That's how I played as a kid and he was one of my all time favorite figures along with the TM Tarantulas and TM Megatron. All the Transmetal and TM2 toys were incredibly playable. Most of the Beast Wars line in general was incredible, even the basics. You can count on one hand how many acutal bad figures there were. Its not until Beast Machines that we got true stinkers, and even those were from the canceled Animorph toyline.The Beast Wars basics figures were incredible when you compare them to the basic figs we get today.
>>11907125Transformers cons are 200 middle aged dudes in a Marriott ballroom. Transformers as a brand is too mismanaged for this to have any meaning. Maybe in another life, where Transformers became second to Star Wars.
>>11907365>>11907366its weird cause all the collector oriented Takara stuff, perfectly easily to import but not Wild King. Hell nobody is actually importing Wild King.
>>11907370TFCon regularly gets a couple thousand people at the shows, it's just growing more and more each year, this years Toronto show i think had the highest attendence yet and can you imagine the traffic at the LA show, probably even greater.
>>11906998We're SO BACK
>>11907362He also appears for a couple of frames when Hot Rod and Kup reunite with the others on Junk. Keeping with the script's "the four Dinobots", Slag is now missing instead.
>>11907351>There's no missing dinobots>The character is absent 99.99% of the film and the times he appears feels more like an error than anything Don't be an "ackshually" king of guy, anon. Even more so when the thing you're nitpicking about is just a joke.
Now that the dust has settled, what do you think about Transformers Siege and its friends
>>11907393Siege revitalized the line after Titans Return nearly killed it. Prove me wrong.
>>11907393I've lost track of what was Siege, Kingdom, etc.I uh, liked Impactor? Were the Clones in one of those lines too? I like those guys.
>>11907393siege is dogshit that only exists so they could sell the same G1 characters perpetually for nearly a decade by giving people gradually better versions
>>11907393Siege brought in weaponizers which were fun as fuck and Earthrise brought us Core class which is a great little line. Been messing with Optimus again and forgot how fun these little guys are, I wish I got more of them when I did, I only have Prime, Bee, Sounwave, Starscream and Energon Galvatron.
>>11907393Big step up from prime wars, but most of the cybertronian alts just didnt work, Micromasters and 3mm bumps definitely didnt work, I liked the battlemasters weaponizers and blast effects though.
>>11907393>Now that the dust has settledI consider posts that start like this to be worthless shitposts.
>>11907396Titans Return and Siege are both great lines.
>>11907393Covering the the already hollow toys with even more holes just made the whole line look cheap, nevermind the cancer greebles and slop paint.
>>11907401Core began in Kingdom, Micromasters were still being sold in Earthrise.
Holy mog
>>11907421And people were ragging on MP28 for years... turns out you just had to uspize a fucking mainline deluxe and pretend it's a Masterpiece to make it look good.
>>11907422Wait. Are you seriously implying you think the figure on the left looks better than the figure on the right? Are you insane?
>>11907427Right woud look good if it were $20 or something, $30 at most. It looks like a Generations figure.
>>11907421Now show the alt modes
>>11907421About 10 years apart yeah
>>11907430And yet you think left looks good? At Masterpiece prices? You're a joke man. Fuck off, I'm not replying to you again.
>>11907421They should have added some greebles to his chest, it's so weird he's smooth there but everything else has detailed. It's such an uncanny valley thing, I can't handle when a toy has smooth areas.
>>11907399toon harder lil bro
>>11907421>>11907427Another guy, but yeah.Left is in correct colors, very obviously does less alt mode cheating, and most important of all, has chrome.
>>11907447>most important of all>has chrome.
>>11907451Good point. If it had chrome, it wouldn't match Style Gen Optimus Prime. There's no way they'd fuck up synergizing the line at its second figure.
>>11907421Left looks like a pinhead here
>>11907438At Masterpiece prices, neither of these look good.
new engineering kino just dropped
>>11907482>new
>>11907482>Hot Rod both invented and "solved" Hot Rod shouldersWhat a strange timeline we live in
30 dollar minibots with one accessory? Nobody's buying that trash.
>>11907496>Nobody's buying that trash.You underestimate the TF fandom's retardation
>>11907496It's not a $30 toy, it's the newest Style Gen figure. It's actually $130.
>>11907376Toronto completely sold out of Saturday tickets this year.No more people could be admittedAnd because of volume LA had to completely open up Friday, instead of just having evening stuff
>>11907504Clearly talking about evil Bumblebee you super retard
>>11907393Great at the time and gave us some really good toys but ultimately one of the most replaceable lines in the franchise’s history, as it was little more than a stopgap before Hasbro started giving people what they really wanted (or at least what Hasbro decided people wanted), toon accuracy, from Earthrise onwards.I’ll always appreciate Siege for re-introducing some semblance of scale back into the toys though.Looking at it now, I only own 8 Siege toys at this point. Cog, Flywheels, Sixgun, Reflector, Brunt, Spinister, Apeface and Omega Supreme. Everything else has been replaced.
>>11904618They are used as clubs/beam guns in the show.The single articulated wrist on that figure was always funny as hell to me.
>>11907251silly anon, it's not about matching or representationit's about white vs nonwhite. Current politics is a recycle of the old, bad politics but with the polarity changed.>>11907272anon, that accent comes from southern whites. that's important. as Redd Foxx said: They didn't come off the boat sayin "c'mawn y'all, come yondah, fetchit n' chuckit"they said 'ooga booga booga' which means 'fetch it yoself'
>>11907367I really can't be into the half cheetah head gauntlets especially with weird spotted lobster hands inside.if I redesigned it, they would slide back onto the forearms, revealing normal hands, and it would split top-and-bottom, not side-to-side, so one arm would have a cheetah upper jaw and head, and the EYES would shoot lasers, while the other would have the lower jaw and it would sit politely and not do anythingI do agree that they were all playable as fuck. and I like your little duo here. I wish these guys would get new toys, though honestly Insecticon needs basically nothing except perhaps a slight scaling-up, ankle tilts, and wrist joints.
>>11904173>Devastation bee mold is already out>>>November 2027
>>11907563It takes time to tool a new head and forearm anon
>>11907563Do you want them to take a bunch of the existing figures and carve holes in their arms or something?
So the current Nacelle re-issue is totally safe and wont grow space fungus because it's a fresh batch and not at all surplus sitting in a crate for a while right? He had nothing on him I could see but has only been free of his cardboard prison for a few hours now
>>11907563Do you think Hasbro just magics toys into existence?
>>11907575I think the idea should have been to prepare this in advance
>>11907393Overrated. Praised mostly by larpers and G1 nerds. Siege and Kingdom were average, Earthrise sucked.Siege only really existed as an experiment/quick return on investment which started the current trend of Hasbro making the same groups of figures over and over again. The alt modes all sucked. Genuinely the some of worst Cybertronian modes we've had yet. Spinister was obviously by far the best one out of all of them and is probably the best deluxe in the entire trilogy. Siege's aesthetic is also dogshit. The senseless greebling make the figures look like they melted.Only good weaponizer in Siege was Brunt. Sixgun came close to being good. Cool idea in practice but they never built upon them in a way that mattered all that much. Slammer doesn't really count as a weaponizer due to being an Ironworks retool but he was the best out of all of them and they didn't make anything on that level since. They have no real identity or character and as they went on they just stopped turning into anything believable.Every Micromaster was somehow worse than the original G1 figures which shouldn't really be possible when those figures had 2 points of articulation but they did it somehow. Core Class thankfully replaced it but it didn't matter too much since Core is a worse version of Legends which was a worse version of Scouts/Basics.Earthrise conditioned people to accept a lot of bullshit like pointless partsforming, weapons not coming with figures, selling way smaller figures for more, godawful materials, and some of the worst engineering in the franchise. Commanders were good though
>>11907571To be fair, it wasn't an issue with ALL Nacelles - it was just the first batch of him that hit the shelves. Mine was the second batch, and to this day he's still perfectly fungus-free, so the issue seems to have been limited to only the first few crates of him (and was most likely the result of them being stuffed into fungus-filled shipping crates that got their spores all over him rather than an issue with the plastic on the figure itself - I've never heard of a solid plastic toy growing that stuff on them up until that incident, and never again afterwards, either).
>>11907579yeah, that's kind of the main reason we make toys OUT of plastic.
>>11907578>The alt modes all sucked. Genuinely the some of worst Cybertronian modes we've had yet.This.If it was closer to a WfC/FoC sort of idea opinions would be much higherBut then Hasbro couldn't have flipped them into ER toys so that wasn't going to happen
>>11907578>Earthrise conditioned people to accept a lot of bullshit like pointless partsforming, weapons not coming with figures, selling way smaller figures for more, godawful materials, and some of the worst engineering in the franchise.And exclusives. Literally half the toys under the Earthrise name were exclusive to one outlet or another
>>11907589The real sucky part of the alt modes is they were afraid to commit to Floro Dery fanciful futurism, and then went and did it anyway with the Target exclusive molds.
>>11907595exactly. If you're not going realistic, fine. go COOL. make it look like something you WISH real vehicles could bedon't use it as an excuse to make ugly folded-up-robots. The point of transformers is you found a way to MAKE a robot out of the altmode parts, it should not be the other way around.
>>11907533>>11907330
>>11907311where's prime? ..Oh... ooohhh.....
>KO/Reproduction is sub $80>Softer material in some spots>Annoying to transform because of it>Genuine can't be found for under $500Takara..please
>>11907618500 for Mp44 is reasonable
Just sitting here...waiting for more info at NYCC on Thunderwing...
>>11907620I got it back when it was $300.
>>11907620You are fucking insane for paying that much on a toy with shitty paint, ugly backpack and shit transformation
>>11907578>Spinister was obviously by far the best one out of all of them and is probably the best deluxe in the entire trilogy.Spinister was good. Impactor was better.
>>11907627They're not going to show off Thunderwing at NYCC, they're going to focus on haslab Primus.
>>11907605that's my line, not yours
>>11907640Hollow Legs Pactor
>>11907639You quoted the wrong posts, the Style Gen discussion is up higher.
>>11907596>>11907595If by Floro Dery futurism you're talking about the Movie/Season 3 designs, those are just based on actual concept cars from around that time.
>>11907656Kup if he Bumblebee
>>11907639$500 isnt that much higher than his MSRP. What's the alternative? MP10? Knockoffs?
>>11907265Fucking whiny moron
>>11907655MPG OP looks a lot better than MP4
>>11907265>>11907669>An officially released, scaled-up Hot Rod.>I was disappointed that the knees were wobbly, but since the screw covers come off easily with a utility knife, you can reinforce them with instant adhesive.
>>11907656Sure! But maybe even moreso.
>>11907673whoa, screw covers. keen.
>>11907421This is why I wish they'd do two-pack releases with cartoon accurate characters and their alt mode separate.I got the Audley Hotrod and he looks perfect, now just give me an equally perfect copy of his vehicle mode and you'd have my money!I especially want his for Unicron as the problem is always trying to engineer a version that can transform from planet to robot and before you ask it should be obvious by the attached picture that I have an I.Q. of 187 and 14 inch cock!!!FACT!!!
>>11907692>gooner
>>11907692>bat pussy
>>11907656imagine a fucking deora Transformer. shit'd be mint
>>11907421I really do admire that they just said fuck it, we're not gonna do better than the 86 version. It feels antithetical to what MP should be. I think in my mind, MP is still the first few figures that are big and feature rich and complex, but that's exactly what that original one on the left is, and it's just awful lol. I love the 86 mold and I'm weirdly jazzed about just having a bigger one.
>>11907701It'd be tricky getting the bed to turn into satisfying robot parts, but...
>>11907720I wish the MP line would be Jazz'd
>>11907579Is there a way to check the batches or is the lack of albino hirsutism the telltale sign? he's a wonderful deco of a great figure but a bit of me is always worried about these things.
>>11907720MP28 isn't awful though.
>>11907750As a car, sureThe robot mode is terrible though
>>11907754No it isn't.
>>11907731Blame Porsche/Volkswagen, they’re the ones that refuse to license the 935 to TakaraTomy
>>11907731It exists if you want it
>>11907772I know, but that doesn't change my wish
VW is willing to hand out its license otherwise MP and WFC bumblebee wouldnt exist
>>11907777I'll acknowledge you quads, but you forgot to factor in my autism. Which prevents me from buying 3P MP
>>11907783What about decal version?
>>11907757It absolutely isIt looks like Dana Carvey in his turtle suit
>>11907781My guess is that maybe Volkswagen only gave it to Hasbro, which in turn allowed Takara to release the molds in Japan since they have a defined partnership, but I have no idea why Porsche wouldn’t because they did license the 911 to Hasbro for the Studio Series Mirage toy
>>11907421Right is objectively better but they always have his torso too short!!!FACT!!!
>>11907787Takara had the license ever since bumblebee 1.0
>>11907803Right is fake parts, Style Gen shouldn't have to do that since it's not trying to mimic a cartoon.
>>11907037The Takara versions are indeed different colors
>>11907620Absolutely fucking notMAYBE I'll stretch $200 range, God help $300 if I'm INSANELY desperateI do feel he may be one of the best MP Optimus out there because I've handled a genuine before. I'm just stuck with the Reproduction till they decide to actually do a reissue of him
>>11907811The amount of pearl clutching and fits of apoplexy this generates among redditors alone is worth the cost
>>11907816Like it's weird we're getting this bird redeco, right? Isn't this just something that the guy who writes the manga cooked up? I feel like this is't the first OC he's made, but I'm blanking on other ones getting toys. Not complaining, just kind of interesting.
>>11907811I wanna see more of that cat.>>11907815Cybershark looks pretty good! Be nice to have money, but.. it'll still be there later.>>11907816wait, the blue shit on the lion face? is that how that works? also wow, Bluebolts. my OSKO one is gonna have a little sister... and why is the head split in half?
>>11907824I kinda wish they packed it with an Autotrooper actually.
>>11907720>we're not gonna do better than the 86 version.Well the engineering is damn near perfect. The only major flaw of the 86 mold is the shoulders and the MPG version improves them.If anything, it's a waste that they're using this engineering for a style gen release instead of degreebling it and making the definitive toon Hot Rod MP.
>>11907827Didn't Autorooper just come out in that Bumblebee 4-pack?...is what I'd like to say, but did that set even come out in Japan?
>>11907833The pack came out 3 years ago and no, I think they get them as online exclusives only. Kinda like how we get Takara stuff on Pulse.
>>11907824I don't think most know or really care too much if they do, you get a momentary 'ugh' from them at best. It's only your imagined enemies and a small handful of people who don't matter yet still live in your head rent free who would get upset about it.
>>11907838>It's only your imagined enemies and a small handful of people who don't matter yet still live in your head rent freeMust be nice to live in that bubble of yours
>>11907838that's kind of worse, really. Naw, those people are only performative.
>>11907826>I wanna see more of that catGlit? He's cool. The only issue with this Ravage mold is that the tail isn't attached to the body - it's actually part of his guns the same way Lockjaw's tail was, and can be held as a gun by bigger characters.>wait, the blue shit on the lion face?What about it? That's how he looks.
>>11907826>why is the head split in half?All versions of the Airazor mold have a seam running down the middle of the bird head, even the Terrorsaur and Filch versions. Usually, they're sandwiched together tightly enough that it's not noticeable, but it looks like the one they used for the picture just wasn't squashed shut enough; nothing you couldn't fix yourself just by pushing the pieces together.
>>11907855well that is just adorasilly. I might put some clear dark blue over that... Oooh in fact, that might look cool over his whole body..
>>11907830If we're going to nitpick, MP28 has better proportions despite the torso being so square. The wider frame and longer legs make him look more dynamic. SS86, despite being the better figure, has the same homogenized contemporary design that every other Generations figure has nowadays so he looks way more boring
>>11907811>Cassettetron setWhew. I was almost going to buy JEMs Blaster for the girly cassettes
>>11907862>MP28 has better proportions despite the torso being so square. The wider frame and longer legsI like how you claim MP28 better proportions then immediately describe how MP28's proportions are terrible.Hot Rod's not supposed to be wide, he's a quintessential Floro Diery design like Arcee, he's lean and human-like. Only SS86 accomplishes that, even compared to 3rd parties, from what I've seen anyway. Trying to avoid faux parts is a fool's errand, the car hood will always compromise Hot Rod's torso.
>>11907868>I like how you claim MP28 better proportions then immediately describe how MP28's proportions are terrible.Like I said it's a nitpick, also yes the super robot proportions are better the generic floro dery blockman proportions.The wider frame is emphasized due to the smaller head but he is still lean overall, but the shoulders make him more athletic and dynamic. While the SS86, despite being more accurate, looks more boring and basic, he looks like every other G1 blockman.I don't care how Floro Dery's proportions are supposed to look, I prefer the super robot esque proportions of MP28
MP28 is better on virtue that it isn't just a Generations toy upsized.
>>11907701If the Hot Wheels collab keeps going we'll have to get a Deora II eventually.
>>11907815Damn, Cybershark looks awesome. Usually don't pick up Beast Wars characters who who weren't in the show, but I may make an exception for him.
>>11907692>Cutie HoneyYou're alright
>>11907891I wish we got Kiss Players VS Cutie Honey after Transformers VS Mazinger
>>11907893I don't know about that, but skimming KP summaries (should read it at some point, apparently lore-wise it introduces interesting shit?) it did really come across as a "Brave series but with girls and kissing" sort of thing, like if J-Decker went absolutely balls to the walls insane
so uh... what are rosanna, glit and sundor gonna do in new legends?
>>11907816Better or worse than the MP?
>>11907317>>11907322He should have lived and become the new Alpha Trion.>>11907332On the upside, cost of living is dirt cheap. You can live like a king as long as you don't mind hunkering down during the frequent Deception attacks.>>11907336I should, forgot how fucked the proportions are on him until I transformed him back from alt last night.>>11907348>>11907351>>11907362>>11907378>>11907388Movie animation errors/inconsistencies aside, I would squeeze all five Dinobots into that display if I had Slug, but he's unavailable if you don't want to pay rape prices. Hoping for a reissue or I may just end up buying the Takara repaint.>>11907607Actually in the process of giving Prime his own shelf, but it's a lot easier to keep the displays neat when breaking characters down by specific teams (the Movie Crew, in the instance of my last pic).
>>11907607Wheeljack and Windcharger are there though
>>11907899Won't know until we see his full paint job. As someone who actually owns the MP, I will say this guy will definitely be more fun to transform - the MP is a mess of panels, particularly around the lion head because it does a whole "switches from cool robo-lion face in Robot Mode to anime-accurate one in Beast Mode" thing which makes him far more convoluted to fiddle with than necessary. The downside will be that, since this is using the Anniversary mold, he'll be missing two of his guns because of the retooled mane.
>Hasbro release>Takara release>Animation coloring>Recolored to be a different character>Dramatic Capture SeriesI'm sure there's at least 1 person out there that buys every single release. All you can do is hope there isn't a better one announced after your order ships.
>>11907815I don't give a shit about making the full Nexus combiner but I might get the Blast Off guy as a standalone, just for his cool cyclops head.
>>11907865knowing Hasbro you'll end up paying about the same because it's a takara release
>>11907944Looks like Cobra Commander
>>11907815Ruination soon?
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>>11905024I've picked up both G2 Dinobot 2-packs at my local ROSS, still in search of blue Grimlock. Maybe this week since they've put tables out already.
>>11904245Sucks to be Canuck
>>11906707You're dead inside. But also its normal to feel a bit of a dopamine crash after waiting months for something and realizing its not anything special. Its just a solid combiner there's nothing mindblowing about it. Had you just bought it normally you'd be fine right now. The only major issue I had with this guy is Liozack's legs and all of Deathcobra. They really should have handled those ports better and Death Cobra's backpack is a mess.
>>11907891>>Cutie Honey>You're alright>>11907891>>Cutie Honey>You're alrightAnd a fan of the 2004 adaptation by Hideaki Anno of NGE fame if you didn't know.....https://youtu.be/KnYteHOmTTI?si=qoyc-ejtk1eghAi-https://youtu.be/qllc2bYRFY4?si=v0g_5KeUsbsd-GWKWhile I HIGHLY recommend its tie-in animated feature that is basically the live action movie but without budgetary restrictions.....https://youtu.be/AU3VO34SUAE?si=gH02YVc4Tbee9pIXThen there's the 2016 reboot Cutie Honey Tears that covers the basics of the character and manga but then takes them into unexpected territory while still paying homage to the OG and you'll be surprised to know that it was all shot in ONE MONTH which is an amazing accomplishment...https://youtu.be/KQ7yBP7uJaA?si=951t8SrRaEJzATlr!!!FACT!!!
>>11904245You’re upset to admit that orange man fucked you too because it means that it’s America’s world and you’re just living in it, but that has been and will continue to be the case well past your lifespan.
