I just don't understand what it is about a particular subset of 80s kids like grew up mid to late 80's because my dad is early 80's and he not like that but he watched more live action that just can't let go of shit and always want their stuff to go on forever and obsessive over these toy shows, there's no other genration really like that even the ''90's kid'' thing fizzled out but you still got these 80's guys buy like fucking Silverhawks figures and shit. I guess it's because the other gen stuff wasn't merch driven as much but I don't know like a 2000's kid doesn't go on and on about like Xiaolin Showdown like these 80's fuckers do with like rant videos on Youtube of He Man or whatever. Which I love as a kid if our shows got more toys but still feel like even if they did people wouldn't be like this, Pokemon card guys are the Millennial version but at least it's to like one thing and they don't care about shows/movies. What's Gen xers deal?
>Does a rant TWICE about a children's toys that re-released with colors a child would like and doesn't have details or features a CHILD wouldn't think about.
because everything about the 80’s was awesome.
>>11920743Reagan happened. They were the first generation of kids to be aggressively targeted by advertisers. But unlike later generations they still have the attention span to retain interests for longer than a month.
They're the reason we're stuck with the same shit for so damn long when it should be resting.
>>11920743>it's a Michael episodeIt's just a hobby no different than baseball card, stamp, and coin collecting. Don't read more into it than what's there. >>11920744His opinion is absolute. You either agree with him or you're wrong. And he assumes tooo much about what he thinks kids beyond himself would like.
Assholes who ruined toys for kids.
>>11920748I know /toy/ hates Michael and has history with him, but I actually appreciate his no-nonsense approach. It's refreshing.
>>11920757Hes an autistic sperg that never thinks he wrong
>>11920743Kenner Star Wars changed the game. Like >>11920746 said, suddenly a new market for cross media campaigns was born. Just look at all the cool cartoon and movie ties-in that came from late 70's to mid 90's. Micronauts, Gi-Joe, He-Man,Transformers,Thundercat's, MASK, Sectaurs, Centurions, Inhumanoids, Ghostbusters, Turtles, Terminator, Aliens, Robocop. The list goes on.Then somewhere around the mid 90's it died out. I think Street Sharks was the last big success. By the late 90's the market was replaced with Slice of Life cartoons like Simpsons, Rugrats, Hey Arnold, South Park, Arthur, Recess, Spongebob, etc. and the action genre which was so prolific for selling "boys toys" all but died out. My kids have grown up on We Bare Bears, Gumball, Adventure Time and Teen Titan's go. None of them are, or were interested in getting toys for any of these. It's a completely different landscape now.
They can't accept their shit just might not be popular and people outside of fandom don't care, new Star Wars was always gonna fail even if it was good younger people just don't give a fuck outside some niches. I never give a fuck about it and likely never will like things fizzle out no matter how popular unless it's truly timeless like Batman.
>>11920770He assumes that anyone who disagrees with him on something is challenging his "logical reasoning," and you're an enemy for life after that point. You can agree with him on stuff 99% of the time, but if you disagree just once, he hates you and puts you on his shitlist.The other Michael (Michael Mercy) is largely the same way, but just a lot more polite and kind about shit-listing people who disagree with him.
>>11920774Power Rangers started in the early 90s and stayed strong into the early 00s. It even got copycat shows (VR Troopers and Big Bad Beetleborgs), and got a successful movie. The Bruce Timm DC stuff is still holding strong in value and demand too. Plus Pokemon.
>>119207432000's kids are only now starting to get toys because they were too young to be the target audience until recently, but time is moving forward, 90's and 2000's toys are getting made where there was nothing only a few years ago, neca and super 7 made tmnt 2003 and 2012, import companies are making ben 10, etc. Collector toys are pretty squarely aimed at mid 30-40 year olds and if you're not in that range there isn't much, you see the same shit happening in japan where 70s-80s tokusatsu is falling out of favor for the revival stuff from the 90s-2000's; the guys who really liked the former are just aging out and the younger gen is aging in.
>>11920796>Japanes Live Action and Anime took overYeah. That about sums it up. I think the US market got saturated and they began importing more from Japan (I know they already did it with micromen, shogun warriors, robotech, voltron, but late 90's early 2000s is when it really blew up, especially with naruto.
>>11920816Dragonball in particular was huge. Gundam Wing was the first Gundam anime to really do good in the US too, with Cartoon Network helping a lot by playing it 5 days a week.
>>11920855This is why the toy market is mostly dominated by 80's US properties and 90's/00's JP ones. US tried to compete with Ben 10 and Avatar: Last Air Bender, but by that point so many Shonen shows were being imported it was almost inpossible to compete.Invincible seems to have a big collector following, so there are still new American IPs here and there that aren't Marvel and DC.
>>11920863The biggest problem in the current toy industry is total creative bankruptcy. It's the same plague that has caused so many tv shows, movies, and video games to be remakes. People genuinely don't know how to be creative anymore. All they know how to do is take an existing property, and re-tool it for "today's modern audience." So the toy aisles are dominated by 80s and 90s brands not because of Gen-X, but because they just can't think of shit that's new.
>>11920872>and re-tool it for "today's modern audience."Not to mention "today's modern audience" don't even like it. It's mostly being made to appeal to investors, who will shovel money into projects to get things THEY like made even though consumers hate them.
>>11920872There is also the reality that companies are risk adverse, they don't want to make new IPs because there is a huge chance they crash and burn and waste tons of money. Its not like the 80s and 90s anymore where there was kids tv time slots every day and a huge block on saturday, and huge retail shelf space where even a franchise that 'failed' could make OK money. That shit is all gone so they want to play it safe most of the time, spider-man always sells after all
It was the generation JUUUUUUST in that area where before Cartoon Network and cable TV had made it so we had alternate things to watch. Your TV stations on UHF were WHERE you went to after school, and you had to be there on time (and you WERE) to watch cartoons. Then you'd see them again when the series rewound back again to the first episode. Not only that, advertisements were rampant, toy technology was getting cool (the Transformers/Diaclone/Microchange stuff was so new and amazing). YOUR toys as an 80s kid looked NOTHING like your dad's toys. They were now legitimized. Star Wars figures were ejaculated everywhere cheaply and in abundance. You waited in anticipation for the next commercial, hoping to see new stuff. Licensing went bonkers and soon EVERY movie seemed to get a line. Between being inexpensive, and toy technology, in a TIMELY fashion being able to let you see a cartoon and also be holding the toy of a character... man. Plastic crack. We never went to rehab.
>>11920855>. Gundam Wing was the first Gundam anime to really do good in the US tooIt was the only one to do well in the US initially. They followed it up with the original despite Bandai America's protest. BoJ couldn't understand that American kids didn't want what Japanese kids might like. This lead to BoA's choices being pushed aside in favor of things like dubbing the original OYW shows and making SD Gundam Force because BoJ had been trying to push SD Gundam into US markets for decades. The shows BoA chose, Wing and G, were the two that made money for them. Though G did not do as well as Wing. They wanted X too but BoJ wouldn't agree to it. By the time SEED came out the moment had passed and the Saturday night toonami was a massive ratings downgrade to the after school block. SD Force did a lot of damage to the brand too. Especially with retailers.
>>11920937Americans are too retarded for model kits anyway it needs to be easy baby shit like blokees or lego, and now toys r us is gone because of woke star wars
>>11920983Woke Star Wars absolutely hurt... everything... but what happened to the finances/debt reallocation of Toys R Us is what killed it, in a more innocent version of what happened to Crazy Eddie's. But yeah... Disney. The Walmart here still has 2 full pegs of Lando Calrissian from like 2019? lol.
