OK so why are most of them >Skull>8 ball>Yin YangDid kids really think these look cool as fuck?They all look that 90s cheesy aesthetic(not cringe however it has its good and its bad). PS: Post retrospective on these things.PS 2: We all know why they died out it was because schools banned them(because fights and gambling) and literally everyone can manufacture cardboard dicks also video games later and phones would have killed them..
You forgot aliens, power rangers and superheroes and other pop culture stuffAnyway yeah I'm a 90's kid and I still think they look cool as fuck. It's nice to have been able to enjoy something simple, cheap, and low-stimulation. Like a less grody Garbage Pail Kids. But Pokemon would have killed them if school bans didn't.
>>11940138Disclaimer pogs where a little before my time I think the trend died and I never played any of it however somethings(I have no idea what, chips? Some product?) included these discs in them and I threw them into my toy box or something. >You forgot aliens, power rangers and superheroes and other pop culture stuffI mean they literally copy pasted licensed stuff so ....I was more interested what kids did think was cool did everyone think that >Skull>8 ball>Yin YangLook cool and they must collect them?Outside of the licensed stuff what did kids who played with them think was cool?Because some of the (???) (?bootleg?) (?generic ones?) (?no brand?) have this very cheesy look to them. As for the licensed ones I do not really care since these are literally screenshots from comics or cartoons or TV shows or promotional materials so we have seen it before in media. What doomed them where 3 things1) I do not think there was a corporation who owned them. For example unlike MTG who has cards from lord of the rings etc who are all licensed by wizards of the coast there was no single corporation that owned POGs. Yes some "world POG federation" or whatever can declare themselves to own it however literally everyone was able to start stamping out circles (forgot to patent the size of the disc unlike lego!) with whatever screenshots they want. So Power rangers or X-men do not really need to go to the "world POG federation" or whatever and start making their own POGs only they do not name them POGs(because this is a trademark!) Everyone made up their own names like discs or "power coin" for power rangers:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDXu1BhiLIs1/2
>>11940152>did everyone think that>>Skull>>8 ball>>Yin Yang>Look cool and they must collect them?Yeah, it wasn't specifically that stuff but more this kind of "skater" art style that was widely seen as cool. Like the kind of art you'd see on the bottom of a skateboard. It probably had a vibe, to 80s-90s kids, of rebellion and being chill.
>>119401522) These are literally only pictures in a circle what else will you do with them? There is no corporation who enforces some battle system unlike MTG. So you have only pictures in a circle.I think the idea is cool since before the internet kids really did not get many pictures of their fav characters so this is cool for kids. Question of the thread what is better POGs or Stickers with screenshots of your characters? 3) The only game you can play with them (and correct me if I am wrong) is the gambling game of flipping them over to take them. Yes it is a fun physical game of skill howeverA) Even if you play the nice version it will damage your picturesB) Is a recipe for kids fighting or theftAnd if you play the gambling versionC) This is literally the fastest way to get kids to fight one another since now kids are introduced to the concept of gambling and losing your bet. I think this was the single biggest thing that killed this game like the POG federation encouraged this idea and presumably others. In contrast in MTG there is no "I get your cards if I win" also since they are valuable and cost money this is basically gambling for kids. Not really sure what non gambling non problematic game you can play with them. Since there is no system no corporation making the rules these are literally no way to make this like MTG cards that summon things and because everyone was making up their own there was no oversight for making them work in a system or not be overpowered MTG cards.>Zero mana 5/5 summon> 1 Mana 99999/99999 summon with rush!Today I think lots of adults joke how bad ass it was because this was literally kids gambling in the streets and getting into fights over this. LOL. And nothing is as edgy 90s as this idea of kids doing that(gambling and fights over paper discs).>But Pokemon would have killed them if school bans didn't.Explain. You are talking about the gameboy games? Or the cards? 2/3
>>11940160What was interesting is that since this is a 100% physical game everyone can bring whatever they want to this game no need for a corporation like wizards to dictate what cards are valid or legal. No surprise this died out fast since the corporations making them did not pay the "world POG federation" and stamped their characters into paper circles and sold them. And after schools started banning them all these media corporations did go>OK looks like we stop copy pasting(printing) our screenshots into paper discs and go back to copy past them into stickers(printing) etc now! I did literally see on YouTube a review of a at home machine to make your own pogs from whatever photos you have! You can literally make your sister or mom and dad into POG characters!!!!! And play with them! This has to be the most 90s thing ever imagined and it is hilarious! https://youtu.be/pLijK7BBvAE?t=261And this brings me to this idea of are pogs or stickers better?
>>11940159I wanted to ask peopel who where kids during that time. However all the art I have seen has this cheesy look to it. I understand how skull are still cool however what kid did go crazy over the 8 ball????Yin Yang is a mixed bag.> "skater" art style that was widely seen as cool. Like the kind of art you'd see on the bottom of a skateboard.Really? Did they really have that? i was never into skateboards
>>11940163>what kid did go crazy over the 8 ballA magic 8 ball was a must-have toy for a kid around 1996. Kids back then were able to believe in magic.
>>11940160>You are talking about the gameboy games? Or the cards?The whole franchise, but especially the cards. Like pogs in the sense that you're battling with cheap pieces of cardboard with images on them. But with a more fun and interesting game, plus attachment to the creatures via watching the anime and catching them in the game.
I got love the>10 minutes in photoshop 1.0or>Guy literally with a pen and paper for 10 minutesSurprised they did not do some abstract ones. I found out that(black and white drawing or print out, color in with water markers) using these water color markers and going wild on the water can give really interesting shading results. Instead of that photoshop 1.0 infill or whatever that one is LOL.And this brings another question. How exactly did they (especially the low price no brand ones) transfer these pictures to the POGs? It is the 90s so I presume they can scan and scan good paper then put the BMP onto a floppy and make a machine do the transfer. Or did they use some physical process for that?
>>11940171>Kids back then were able to believe in magic.Did it have any other significance for them or did they think it was cool?>A magic 8 ball was a must-have toy for a kidForgot about that one.If I think 8ball I think playing the pool game.
>>11940172Hmmm interesting.>plus attachment to the creatures via watching the anime and catching them in the game.I have to disagree. If pokemon and POGs did coexist at the same time the pokemon corporation would simply make their own pokemon pogs since everyone else was doing it. The same way they make pokemon stickers.>But with a more fun and interesting game,Is it really that good? I know only MTG and MTG requires a corporation to control these cards and they have a team to balance the cards etc. Also POGs are not really capable to be in a game like that since they have no stats or mechanics printed on them. Why do you think pokemon is so important? MTG was around in the same time period and in 1995.
>>11940136i remember they were extremely popular for like a season in 1993, my brother was at aall for a Blockbuster video game competition and there was a store there with a shitload of them, special slammers, plastic pog containers that were 3 or 4 feet long, by 1994, they'd totally cooled off and were an underground stoner thing, kinda like fingerboards
For some reason I like these bootleg/no brand ones or whatever the name of them is. They look so cheesy and bad to the point that they look good you also gotta love them for having the balls to sell this to kids.
>>11940178>for like a season in 1993,>by 1994, they'd totally cooled off and were an undergroundIt was dead this fast?Also have another of these things. Who the fuck made them? This is literally like bootleg superhero-jedi OC do not steal LOL
>>11940172>>11940177This is a pokemon POG slammer. Check mate atheists!
Like who made these things? Look at this art! And this is something sold to kids! Like some corporation payed for this dude to doodle this and then they made it in factories and encased it in plastic. WTF!?
>>11940177>Is it really that good?Speaking as someone who was in a "Pokemon league" at my school in 3rd grade, it was fun. You got to think you were smart for knowing that water was strong against fire type, and using trainers and trying to evolve your pokemon. Definitely wasn't something Pog could compete against, gameplay-wise.>>11940187Lol I can't tell if you really believe that's a Pog or you're messin'
>>11940200>Lol I can't tell if you really believe that's a Pog or you're messin'????It is a real thing. See:https://youtu.be/314CiCnQPDk?t=2304(use the time code link!) At 38:24 he flashes it on screen not understanding the significance. > that's a Pog POG-POG or POG-not licensed ?
>>11940138>Anyway yeah I'm a 90's kid and I still think they look cool as fuck. It's nice to have been able to enjoy something simple, cheap, and low-stimulation. Like a less grody Garbage Pail Kids.This. I loved skulls and edgy, gross-out art at that age, and those pogs were my favorites. I was also a '90s X-Men kid, so those were must-haves, too. I wouldn't overthink them, it was a short-lived fad like fidget spinners or the swing revival. Just something that briefly caught on.
>>11940219>a '90s X-Men kidMy man!>This. I loved skulls and edgy,A man of culture!PS: What is your opinion on this art: >>11940196?
>>11940184>It was dead this fast?A lot of hypes and trends were forced usually by pouring money into the business and then buying up all the product themselves to create an illusion of popularity. If you want a very infamous one, read up on how the making of the Cowboys vs Aliens film happen, where one rich guy pay to get a comic created and then rigid the sales to make it look popular thus it tricked Spielberg into thinking that meant there was demanded for said book and he wasted a lot of money on a project that bombed because no one actually wanted it nor even knew the comic was a thing. That concept was how a lot of trends and markets were made, some retarded with too much money tried to force their idea out in hopes it would catch on. POG was one of these products.
>>11940234I mean all fads are forced by mega corporations pokemon is one that worked so is he-man all of it is planed and artificial.However for it to be over this fast??
did anyone actually play the game these things were meant for?because I never remember a single kid I knew using them as a game, everyone just bought them because it was trendy and the other kids were so we got them too.I remember when the fad died out the local toy store had big bins outside the front just filled with pogs no one was buying anymore, can't remember if they were free or whatever.
>>11940241>However for it to be over this fast??Because no one actually wanted it. The others had some actual desire and they did market testing with MotU. Pokemon was originally organic as they were already chasing trends by that point rather than forcing them. In POGs case a lot of money was pour into news outlets and people that owed him favors and he had the company buy a lot of their own product with a "dude trust me" as hopium the kids would want them. They didn't and they never did, thus it didn't last 6 months before hitting clearances. Worth noting Alan learned absolutely nothing and tried this again with "Hyper Scan" card game system by again cooking books and forcing it to market for it crash and burn. Again, rich people just threw money at their dream projects and they died hard for it.
>>11940245I'm sure many would for how it was based off the old milk cap game however it loses charm rather quick. After all the game was just 52 card pick up with extra steps.
>>11940247>Pokemon was originally organicIt never was. Pokemon was a gigantic project to get kids to like it. The synchronization of the anime and the games was key. Not only this however nintento/game freak literally decided to burn money on the anime because no network wanted to let a jap show be broadcast because no advertisers will buy buy adverts, so nintendo/game freak promised they will buy the advertisement themselves.This was a incredible project with money thrown at it like crazy. There are no organic trends in kids toys since the 1950s or long before that.The same thing is true for the NES. None of this was organic.
>>11940136>SkullSkulls are ALWAYS cool you literal zoomoid>8 ballalso cool
>>11940196>Like who made these things? Look at this art! And this is something sold to kids!>>11940180>They look so cheesy and badZoomer finds "cool art"...man what kind of art zoomers like? you sound so lame. Like...what the fuck>OMG IS THIS....IS...THIS A PURPLE DEMON/SKELETON???? THEY WERE SELLING THIS TO KIDS???!?! HOLY SHIT 90S WERE SO CHEESYwhy are you overreacting over random kids stuffPS:I had picrelated as water slide tattoo as a kid.
>>1194022711 year-old me would have dug it, lol.
>>11940196Looks old Yugioh card quality tbqh
>>11940340I am not a zoomer.>>11940340>Zoomer finds "cool art"...>>11940338>Skulls are ALWAYS cool you literal zoomoidThe point is not that it is a skull the point is that the skull looks like it was drawn by your dad with a pencil in 5 minutes.Contrast to MTG skulls. I was unable to find exact examples form 90s MTG however there are skull art that looks cool and not like your dad drew it with a pencil for you.>>11940340>A PURPLE DEMON/The point is not that it is a purple.... ??? Goblin? Weirdly drawn man? The point is that contrasting this to any other art of the time even toy box art it has that early deviant art style for some reason. It is OK if you draw like this however you expect there be standards to what is sold in stores or something. In contrast you have MTG art at the same time who always looks cool. While POGs are made by anyone and have no standards. You think the POG world federation (a cheesy /cool name in the 90s) would actually produce good quality art to build brand loyalty however all I have seen form the world federation is literally this cavemen dude and literally the word POG stamped on the front.Do you think this contributed to the POGs death?>>11940445>Looks old Yugioh card quality tbqhI disagree. While Yugioh can be all over the place at least every card is on the standards of the manga/anime it was in at the minimum so it is OK. Here the skull has warped proportions and "what is perspective! LOL!" "How do skulls even look when they are rotated!? LOL!"This literally looks like something the edgy 16 year old would draw in his school book with his pen especially the thick line art etc. However this does not look like some cheep pog Shovelware they encased it in plastic so presumably it was their best peace.Word of advice literally "NO NAME GIVEN" company if you are going to do that then hire some actual artist to draw this picture.
>>11940210It's a coin you use in Pokemon TCG when you need a coin flip, lol. Not a POG, though it looks like one.
>>11940136>>11940559Now that I think of it is there a way to make pogs into a game like MTG? Any ideas? I only have the bare bones ideas of 1) Divide pogs into cost ranks from 0 to 5 (or 0-10?)2) Zero cost pogs you can play 1 time per turn (or 4 times per turn?)3) you can coin flip your 0 mana pog if it lands face up it is summoned if it lands face down it goes to the graveyard.4) To summon 1 mana or more pogs you need to yugioh sacrifice your 0 mana pogs5) The sacrificed pogs are stacked under your main pog to be used as HP token indicators. 6) so a 1 mana pog is a 1/1 and a 2 mana pog is a 2/2 etc.7) MTG rules where the defender decides what to use to block.decides what pogs to use to defend8) pokemon HP rules where the monsters do not regenerate after they get damaged. 9) use 20 pogs for your HP tokens10) Hardcore/blood thirstier mode your HP is also your summon monsters where you can only summon the next pog in your HP stack and doing this reduces your HPThis is about it this way the kids keep their pogs and can show them. And also the low summons have value.Maybe incorporate some physical skill instead of having D2 coins flip randomness? Maybe you need to coin flip them into a cup from a distance? Maybe abandon the MTG summon monster mechanic and have the game be who can land the most pogs in their cup? Make the pogs have natures like you need to coin flip them into the cup or normal throw? Make them normal spells who reduce the HP of your opponent in the game if they land face up? This requiers there to be more information on the POGs. Do you think you can fit it in there?
>>11940563>It's a coin you use in Pokemon TCGReally? I did never play pokemon TCG so....>Not a POGYou want to bet? Like really really bet? Because there are no rules to what a POG is and literally any circular disc that fits the size can be used.
