>>2852705
When you going? I hope summer, else you're missing out on a lot.

>>2852705
Make a pilgrimage to Leonhard Euler

You have to eat at a place called "Whiskey in the Jar" OP, order some meat

>>2852705
Mosque. Gdansk has the biggest of all 3 mosques in poland

>>2852705
The amber museum was a lot cooler than I expected.

>>2852705
Cycling the Hel peninsula and getting the ferry back is a great tourist experience.

>>2852956
>3
so it has less than the average town of 10K in Germany?

>>2852705
Westerplatte and the Polish post office are both iconic WW2 locations. Sopot and Gdynia are both excellent and easily accessed from Gdansk.
Gdynia has historical ships, UNESCO site, aquarium and the Polish naval museum.
The pier in Sopot is a nice walk and the architecture around that area is excellent (same for all of the tricity area actually).
The big WW2 museum in Gdansk isn't worth it imo, it isn't bad but I remember it being a bit empty inside, haven't been to the Solidarity museum so can't speak for it. Gdansk has a zoo but it's closer to Sopot than Gdansk iirc.

>>2852865
I have been in winter and summer, it was great both times.

>>2853123
Good suggestions.
Also, Malbork castle is a potential daytrip.

the WW2 museum is dope
Also check out the bar Flisak '76 for some really cool cocktails and Mojito Cafe for breakfast

I didn't want to make another Poland thread so I'm posting here but I'm planning on having a 1-2 week trip to Krakow, possibly Christmas Week up to New Years. My original goal is to visit a friend I have but I'm not too sure if she'll be glad to have me there so I want to know if there's other stuff I could do should my initial plan fall through. Also any ideas how much an average day would cost? No fancy restaurants or tourist traps.

>>2853725
>christmas to new year
a-anon, i have something to tell you.

>>2853727
I'm listening.

>>2853730
It's now 2026. Christmas has passed.

>>2853731
I meant for this year's Christmas and New Years obviously. I know it's retarded to plan on January but I simply want to get a rough picture of what I could potentially be looking at. I doubt Krakow will change that much in a year.

>>2853734
>beer in bar £3
>beer in shop £1
>main dish £8-10
>salt mine access £25
>taxi from airport to centre £8-10
>pool table for an hour £10
>cinema £5-7

I guess when I go out I'm spending £40-50 or so.
Anything in particular you wanna do?

1-2 weeks is a fair bit, you'll probably wanna travel out a bit and see the mountains, maybe do a day(or2)trip to Silesia.

>>2853736
I forgot to mention but this is gonna be broke-ass college student level of trip so I expect about 1-1.5k euros at most for this trip.
>Anything in particular you wanna do?
Nothing too exciting, just sightseeing and maybe visiting historic spots. Personally I'd rather accompany that friend that I mentioned for most of my stay but again that's whether she'll be cordial.
>you'll probably wanna travel out a bit and see the mountains, maybe do a day(or2)trip to Silesia.
How much would that cost?

>>2852705
Solidarność museum, it's one of the best museums I've been to
Going to Hel(seals and beaches), Gdynia(cozy smaller city). Sopot is ok but kinda overrated imo
Just walking around, it's a nice stereotypical Baltic city
Going to the various beaches
Historical locations such as Westerplatte(where WW2 started)
Some nice parks such as the one where Hevelianum is

>>2853725
>My original goal is to visit a friend I have but I'm not too sure if she'll be glad to have me there
why don't you ask her

>>2853741
>>2853725
if you are going to Wieliczka. Go to Kalwaria Zebrzydowska too (catch a train from there). Maybe one of the most beautiful places in Poland (its baroque basilica). Also quiet place so nice change of pace, meditative trip to to speak.

>>2853745
It's complicated. I will definitely end up asking her about it later in the year but simply put, I don't fancy my chances (right now) and I'm terrified of what the response would be.
>>2853753
Those kind of places are the ones I really want to visit so I'll keep this in mind.

>>2853741
>€1-1.5k
for flights and accom, too?

Krakow's pretty well served by low cost airlines. I'm usually flying in and out for about £40 each way. Sometimes cheap if I'm onebagging.

Accom's going to be like £40/night. I'd suggest checking into a decent hostel for a few nights to bring down your average nightly accom spend, to tap into social activities, and generally get the lay of the lland. Avoid cheap shit, as they're full of delivery drivers. Check hostel reviews religiously to look for signs of 'worker hostel'. You ONLY want backpacker vibes.

Krakow is beautiful. I love it, and now call it home. However, 2 weeks will definitely see you doing all the sights, and in winter, you're limiting kino days out by lakes and cycling to random places. After a few days hostelling, I'd recommend spending a couple of nights in Silesia or maybe in the mountains to change up the vibe and pace, before heading back to Krakow to check in to an apartment/hotel.

Silesia is cheaper than Krakow in all measurements (also bringing down your average spend). (It's the industrial region around Katowice). There you've got kino activities based on industrial heritage (mines, breweries, etc). You'll also get a breath of fresh air from mass tourism and feel like you're in abit more of a real place.

Transport in Poland is really cheap. The bus between Krk-Ktw is like £4 or something.

Over the winter Zakopane is going to be absolutely fucking heaving full of people, and is becoming expensive. It might be worth arriving there dead early in the mornnig by bus, having a look around, and heading back the same day. The Chocholowskie thermal baths are cool, with stuff like sitting naked in a sauna full of people overlooking the mountains (huge glass wall) while someone does a 'sauna dance', you can swim in a hot pool outside in minus temps, etc.

Generally you'll be fine for money.

>>2853753
Kalwaria is cool as fuck. How is it in winter though?

>>2853761
If you're worried about it, I doubt you'll be getting 2 weeks free accom from someone.
Your budget is fine and you'll have a great time.
Stay for new years, and have some fun. Your budget is plenty.

>>2853785
>for flights and accom, too?
Yes. I expect the flights to be a bit more expensive in my case as I'm a non-Euro but if the food/accom/etc prices are as everyone said so far in this thread then I guess I have nothing to worry about.
>Krakow is beautiful. I love it, and now call it home.
Good for you, anon.
>>2853788
It's less about the accom and more about her outright just not wanting to see me. Regardless I appreciate the replies anon.

>>2853800
>outright just not wanting to see me.
kek, good luck.

Let me know if you need any other advice.

If you're looking at flights in, note that you can also fly into
>budapest (6h, flixbus, probably £10 or so)
>vienna (6h, flixbus, probably £10 or so)
>katowice (2h, £10 airport shuttle)
>warsaw (2h, can be £2 regiojet train in advance lol)
>prague (6h, £15 regiojet train)

And get to Krk relatively easy. I find Budapest usually has quite good international deals (doing Budapest to Hainan soon for £250), I think their gov subsidise airline stuff as part of some national strategy.

Personally when travelling i always like to fly into 1 airpot, travel to a main place, then fly out of another airport, so i get to see 3 places. I think 2 weeks grants you that privilege, and Krakow gives you decent airport flexibility (night buses/trains kill a nights accom, too).

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>>2852705
>Gdansk
You mean Danzig

>>2853806
>Might makes right ideology
>Loses the first war he fought in
>Starts a second war and loses again
lol

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>>2853787
Basilica is open always but small temples at "calvaire path" (hiking trail around the mountain simulating jesus trail) are open only at certain days, Holliday's like august corpus Christi, etc.
If there is ice and snow you can kill yourself on such path, quite dangerous.
Not sure about traveling Poland now in general, here is view from outside of window. I have vacation now and just sit home and learn music production

>>2852705
DANZIG BLEIBT DEUTSCH

>>2853806
>>2853980
You started a world war and lost east Pomerania for good, get over it

>>2853806
>>2853980
It's called Gdańsk, Mehmet.

I got in a bar fight with poles in Hungary because I didn't know Danzig was renamed to gdansk.

Hard to really explain what happened, was totally wasted. I think the people in the bar recognised that I had no idea why the poles were angry and 4vs1 it wasn't going to be a fair fight so everyone just jumped on these polish guys for trying to fight me.

Ducked out pretty quick, a bruise, no idea what befell the poles. Would feel bad for them but they attacked me 4 vs1 for no real reason. How was I to know? Never been to Poland, not polish, wasn't in Poland. Fuck them i guess. So now its Danzig

>>2856186
>Gdansk
>Calls it Danzig
Literally Hitler!!!

>>2856186
Sounds like you found out why the polish were 5% electrified before the war and germany was 95%

>>2856186
>Didn't know it was renamed
Were you born in 1930 or something?
>>2856197
Centuries of genocide by Germans/Russians?

>>2853123
>Gdansk has a zoo but it's closer to Sopot than Gdansk iirc
It's kind of close to the airport technically, but the busses have to take a fairly long route there as they can't just go through the forest in between. But you can take an e-bike at the airport and take the forest route there. But I wasn't exactly fan of the zoo. Some of the cats especially were in enclosures way too small with few hiding spots.

My personal favorites are Malbork castle and a cocktail bar called Winston. The drinks can be a bit exotic, and their presentation is absolutely fantastic.

>>2856186
i mean since the beginning "Pomorze" (seaside) was collonized by Prussians and then Teutonic Order (religious fundamentalists) with which Real Poland waged a war in 15th century.
Real Poland, since the beginning was just Wielkopolska (Poznan) and Malopolska (Krakow and other places) - oldest states in Poland. So yeah, Danzig originally was not polish at all

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>>2856350
>So yeah, Danzig originally was not polish at all
Uhhh
"Gdańsk" is the original name, "Danzig" is its germanization.
This original slavic -> germanized name thing is coincidentally true for a shitton of cities in Eastern Germany (Dresden, Leipzig etc) as well, courtesy of the Sorbs.

>>2856214
How exotic are we talking about?

How far would I get without knowing even a lick of Polish?

>>2861962
Far enough. Even though the poles are very arrogant when it comes to their country and language nobody actually expects tourists to speak Polish.

>>2852705
I'd recommend a trip to Malbork, biggest castle in the world with some very interesting history. Getting the train there and back is really cheap.

>>2862228
>Malbork
looks nice. Is the city itself worth a visit as well?

>>2852705
Put on your Walkman and walk around, listening to Danzig.

>>2862752
Didn't spend much time there since I visited in the afternoon, but I'd say so if you've got enough spare time

>>2853806
I'm a Pole and I don't mind Danzig. I don't think we get to lecture anyone since we call Aachen Akwizgran and Munich Monachium

>>2852705
The same thing as every other city.
Go to a bar and try and find a girl to have sex with.

Aside from that literally nothing but be an annoying retarded tourist taking pictures of mundane shit to clog your camera roll up with things you'll never look at, whilst local sneer at you.

>>2852705
our nigga Gabriel just made it to Gdansk, cold and snowy there right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7SLd4FUIlI

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>>2852705
There's a small monument on the main tourist drag commemorating the invention of the greatest system of temperature measurement of all time

Danzig. Poland is a fake artificial country, specifically invented to piss of germs.

>>2852705
It's neat but the real place to be is a few stops north, in Gdynia.

>>2852705
In the winter jackshit.

In the summer, take a boat ride, talk to girls, go to cool pubs, and music places, fight over sidewalk territory with aggro Ruskies and Krauts

>>2865665
>specifically invented to piss of germs.
You don't have to sell me on it even more

>>2852705
drinking

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>>2863538
The girls wrinkle their faces to make your creepshots unfappable, kek

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>>2853806
>gdańsk
>danzig
as a matter of fact it's Gduńsk
>t. pomeranian insider

>>2868908
What are the odds of someone being in to that.

>>2868849
Man, we really have restaurants using AI slop instead of just using a photo now.

>>2874286
It looks good.

>>2874286
You can bet there is an Indian employee who gave the owner the idea of using fake AI illustrations on their menu instead of the (very disappointing) real photo.

Prepare your own food in Poland. Don't dine out. Restaurants are not part of Polish culture. The world's best grocery shops and stalls are.

>>2874329
>Restaurants are not part of Polish culture
In all of Eastern Europe, in fact. I knew some places that served instant mashed potatoes and a sliced tomato as an actual dish, just lol

>>2874329
>Restaurants are not part of Polish culture
they lived under a communist regime until 1990, there were no restaurants back then. I visited Warsaw some years ago and on that main commercial street that leads towards the old town there was a "Soviet Restaurant", it had some weird name related to milk, like "The Milkery" or something, which is what functioned as a restaurant back in the soviet days. The food served there was super basic.

>>2874286
And it's only going to get worse. I guess this is just an evolution on those places where they put plastic fake food outside their stores "attract" people.

>>2874329
I had pretty good pierogi in Sopot and I thought the food in the restaraunt at the end of the pier was nice, only went there because my girlfriend wanted to but it was surprisingly good for what I assume would be a tourist trap. I had Polish food from a stall in London and it was good though, so not to say their stalls are bad.

>>2876924
I would simply leave. To my mind any business that lazy is probably lazy with their actual product as well.

>>2852705
not a germ but what the poles did to danzig and breslau are ethnic cleansing by definition and a crime against humanity

those cities were german, before the war, you cant just remove the population and replace them with another

>>2876935
And they would've gladly done the same thing to the areas they got off the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk had they won. The only real lesson to be learned here is just don't lose wars.

>>2876945
i dont think so. people back then didnt ethnically cleanse the land they won in war
if you go to alsace-lorraine there are still germans for example

>>2876947
The French received a very different treatment from the Germans compared to the Poles.

>>2874329
>Prepare your own food in Poland. Don't dine out. Restaurants are not part of Polish culture. The world's best grocery shops and stalls are.
Grocery stores in Poland sell third rate goods because everything good the polacks can produce gets sold as a cheap alternative in Germany lmao.
Bring your own rations and if you want to try polish cuisine then buy or look up a cookbook.
>>2876935
>those cities were german, before the war, you cant just remove the population and replace them with another
See >>2856372 but yeah you can; just win a war for yourself and you can redraw borders in a way you find aesthetically pleasing, like Stalin did.

>>2853785
>Krakow rules

How does it compare to Wroclaw in terms of comfy walks, good places to dine, a good vibe?
Ive found myself to really enjoy Wroclaw, ive only been to Krakow breifly so I am wondering if I should check it out or just keep enjoying Wroclaw
One of the best part of my few days in Gdansk was riding a bicycle away from the old town, sun was going down, it was kind of foggy and a giant bell rang and echoed in the distance and made such a magical tone

>>2877132
I found the grocery stores in the sizable towns to offer a great variety of foods, on par with American supermarkets. You can get cheap items, or you can pay for premium stuff. For produce, coldcuts and bakery items it's better to visit the local shops.

But Poland is just too orderly for my taste. You get weary of the niceness on every hand, the public spaces with not a single brick loose or out of place. Where's the reward in finding nice places when they are all around you? The rainstorms are also annoying. They sweep in with little warning, particularly in late spring. If you're not paying attention to the hourly weather forecast, you can easily get caught out.

>>2877179
Wroclaw > Krakow if you want to get away from tourists. It's got a more real vibe to it. Krakow has far more wow-factor though, and much better geography nearby.

Cycling Gdansk and nearby coast in summer = op. (Cycling Krakow along the rriverr and some other places is cool too).

Krakow has great restaurants. Was the European capital of food a few years back. There's every cuisine here, and generally high quality given mass tourism demands.

Vibe is great. Just a little bit overtouristy at the moment.

>>2876935
it was the that soviets that did this and they also similarly cleansed the poles from todays western ukraine and belarus, even though the poles were supposedly on the winning side of the war

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>>2877259
Jenke my friend.. Any smaller town reccomendations? I road tripped to the salt mine and also the silver mine, saw some castles. Stayed in zakopane a few days. I also stayed in jelenia gora a couple days. I really like the houses, especially some of the older ones

>>2877370
Around Krakow
>Ojcow national park
>Cycling to Tyniec
>In summer I like getting the local train to Jezioro Chechelskie (it's on way to Katowice). It's a lake with beaches and bars
>You can head to Olkusz and nearby is Poland's desert, a few castles on the way
>A little further up you have the trail of the Eagle's Nest which is littered with castles and is a great multi day hike/cycle
>Lanckorona is a very cute village nearby
>The hill to the west of Krakow are great for hiking, with some mounds, a zoo, a Vinyard, a monastery, etc. "Pub Amnezja" is a great 'country pub' nearby
>Kąpielisko Przylasek Rusiecki are some nice lakes for sunny weather to the east of Nowa Huta (which in itself is a great day out if you haven't been)

>>2877370
>>2877424
Ah these were all around Krakow btw.

I personally like venturing down into Podkarpackie. Sanok is a cool town, with the Beksinksy museum, and a 'skansen' reconstruction of an old town.

The birth of the oil industry is nearby, too, in a city called Krosno (Bobrka museum). Not many people know what oil drilling started in Poland.

Further southeast you've got Bieszczady, which is a depopulated region, and is now practically wilderness.

If you're around here, it's probably worth going to Lviv, and crossing the border on foot (via Przemysl). I've done this countless times, including during the war. You'll have a very unique experience.

>>2877425
Forgot to add there's a kinda tourist train connecting Sanok to Krakow. IIRC it's a single track railway built by the Austrians as a 'back up supply route' in the hills to the main railway connecting Krakow with Lviv. Takes like 3 hours?

>>2877426
jezioro sounds cool, thanks for all the reccomendations
I was in lviv in 2020 and would like to go back, maybe this year
The small carpathian towns in Ukraine must still be chill too right?

>>2854078
Except your leaders are on full record literally cumming their pants over the prospect of luring Germany into a war from 1938 onwards in particular

The historical record does not lie, the truth wins out

>>2878121
Politicians fantasizing over what-if scenarios aren't comparable to actually firing the first shot.
>The historical record does not lie, the truth wins out
True and the historical record does show that Germany started it and lost.