>>2875261
Not really. Get the bag and bounce

>>2875261
Depends if youre okay with being a wagie and busting your ass while living frugally.

If you're some broke bitch loser you do what you have to. If you have money... You can reevaluate what you're doing and where you're located.

>at each stage of life a family is just a burden
Interesting pic op

>>2875261
Given the sovereign debt crisis coming in the 2030s, I think it probably makes a lot of sense to figure out your personal ejection seat, especially if you are early in your career.

>>2875261
No it sucks here there is no public transport

>>2875261
As a guy who moved around and eventually abroad in my 20's, I'll say it depends. The U.S. is very hostile to young men atm. So I get why you'd wanna bail. Some guys that are on a good career track should probably stay. If you do land a career abroad I would try to get something that has skills you could transfer back. Some people end up marrying a girl overseas and staying there, and having a pretty good time with it. That said, your family, friends, and community will probably suffer in your absence. I get why a lot of young men simply would not care.

I understand that living in the US is a struggle for a single male, I totally get it. But how the fuck is moving to Dubai gonna help unless you're already rich? These tweets try to motivate young men into betterment, but it seems out of touch to send them over to expensive places knowing that most of them clearly don't have enough money to make it in Dubai.

>inb4 poorfag/brokie
If this advice was meant for already rich dudes, then they don't need the advice, they've already made it.

>>2875261
>Becker

Same except in Shitnada. Gonna move to the UK soon as I have dual citizenship, but no desire to stay in the West. Europe as a whole seems extremely depressing.

>>2875304
Dubai isn't even expensive as long as you don't pay the retard tax that all retards pay when they go to a meme place and refuse to live locally. Just live with the jeets and filipinos bro (unironically)

Funny how it's the low value males that geomaxx. I did the opposite and moved to the US and made it here during my 20s (from cucknada). Now almost at the end of my 30s, I could not have imagined going anywhere else

>>2875337
>Europe as a whole seems extremely depressing
As a canadian you should be used to that already

Life as an american man in 2026
>get your dick mutilated at birth (everybody treats it like a joke, you have less body rights than dogs)
>get called a rapist if you ask a girl out
>get called a creep if you just look at a woman wearing a tight skirt and showing her cliveage (just look away, dog!)
>get discriminated for every job position
>can get drafted unlike women because equality doesn't apply to killing you
>get harsher sentences for the same crimes than women
>if you still become successful despite all this, become a prey for divorce whores and frivolous lawsuits

This country needs to completely collapse, and maybe in two generations, once the people with mental cancer die, as the last members of their families, then MAYBE it will be worth living there again.

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>>2875261
Its kind of a shitshow here right now.

>>2875375
American women are literally some of the easiest in the world, in Canada they'll only talk to you if you're black

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The more affordable areas of the UAE are not at all appealing. Endless high-density suburban sprawl, basically. 100% car-dependent as well.
>>2875355
>Funny how it's the low value males that geomaxx
>BTW I geomaxxed to the US
Evidently you were a low value male back in "cucknada", kek
>>2875375
There are many pockets of America which haven't been overrun by soulless globohomo conformism, but mindsets are gradually becoming homogenized everywhere. It sure did seem that random venezuelan migrants got a lot more attention and care from the women than the young single white man trying to pull himself up by his bootstraps. And yes, I tried to be friendly and "nice" to all sorts of people when I first showed up in my town. They put in a facade at first, but quickly grew tired of faking it and showed their real side of not giving a shit. What choice does a guy have but to reciprocate by disengaging from society and minimizing his contributions.

>>2875261
Yes. If you are a male in your 20s you should be in your home country working up to making $1M a year. Not wasting your time going overseas and tanking your career.

>>2875476
>making $1M a year
Lol

Much of a career is just a humiliation ritual for many of us and the privilege of being allowed to receive paychecks requires demonstrating you're willing to accept arbitrary abuse and disrespect.
Don't like it? You're insubordinate.
Stand up for yourself? You're combative.
You withdraw? You're not a team player.
Don't want to hangout with your retard coworkers? You're a bad culture fit.
Your will to work hard and morale has been crushed? You have bad performance, time for PIP.
You're not going "above and beyond" constantly? You need to show more hunger.
You're doing work of more than one person, coaching others, while these others are frequently coasting, doing low quality work, and you watch while they get preferential treatment for everything and their bullshit is swept under the rug? Don't worry about them I want you to focus on what I ask you to do.

living overseas you miss home
living at home you yearn for overseas

>>2875669
>living overseas you miss home
you're doing it wrong

America is pretty bad to live in, unless you grow up there and have roots/ connections. Failing that, you have to move to some big city and try to live out your Friends/ Sex in the City fantasy. There are only a few places where that's actually doable, NY, Chicago, LA, SF. And that seems like a pretty grim scene but I can't say firsthand.

>>2875381
>I can easily bang American sluts
>But Canadian ones? Totally different ballgame
You outed yourself as full of shit, cuckposter. Sluts are the same everywhere. Either you can bang them or not. In America the best way to get a chance at a decent girl is to know one from your homegrown circle. That's really the only way to get anything worth a damn in America these days. Girl, friends, job. You have to know them. If you are a stranger looking to integrate I think America is a bad choice.

>>2875348
>spend your 20s living in a slum with jeets instead of living in orange county or something
everyone who uses twitter should be shot

>>2875788
As bad as it is for guys, it's almost worse for women in big cities. A wise man once said NYC is like an elephant graveyard for women's ovaries. They get used and ghosted by chads and basedboys like crazy there. They are speedrunning getting mind-destroyed by SSRI's, birth control, and hitting the wall w/o a family to show for it.
Yeah most of my friends have gotten out of my diverse and strong (corrupt and crime-ridden) small city after H.S. I honestly don't know what to say about geography except try to find somewhere you can be useful. The job market is split between DEI and H1-B scabs. Our politicians seem to hate us. It's not a very encouraging time to stay. But no one knows how things will play out. There's always homesteading if you want to get out of the cities.

I want to start from zero in middle America this summer. Ride a fright train, hitchhike, sleep rough, get the occasional motel room, ask around for day labor, maybe become a farmhand for harvest season somewhere in the Dakotas, or hire on with a traveling carnival. No this wasn't something of my own free will. I would've happily returned to my little wagecuck arrangement that has served me well for the past seven years of work & travel, but the new owners just pulled the rug and told me that I no longer have a job or a place to stay once I return to America.

Last time I bought a van, and then got trapped in vanlife for a few years. The comfy trap, you get a soft mattress and effortless mobility and then you just rot all day doing nothing with your life, trying to keep costs low. This time I want to stay on foot and figure something out on the fly. Fargomaxxing is also an option, i.e. living in a low COL American city. Get a cheap room rental and ride the bus or bicycle to the wagecucking until it becomes balls-ass cold and time to fuck off to tropical Asia once again.

Would be nice to come out ahead by a few thousand bucks after three months. But more important will be the experience of rawdogging America as a hobo vagabond, the stories and the characters and the lessons learned.

>>2875663
If no matter what you do, you're the problem, maybe it isn't the environment.

You really are the problem.

>>2875261
Most Americans think they cannot afford anywhere else. Not when someone making $65K a year still lives in a tiny apartment and cannot afford shit, maybe does not have health care.
It creates this illusion that anywhere else is just outside their price range.

>>2876290
>if you reject my arbitrary talmudic dick measuring contest oy vey it's literally a holocaust and you should be shot goy

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>make 65k/yr
>think the only way to be rich is moving out of my area (Phoenix)
>realize I can stop eating out each meal
>learn to pregame before the bar/club
>realize I can just have my healthcare pay for my yearly gym membership
>realize if I buy used car it's fine
>suddenly loads-e-money

America is fine, if you have problems getting with women find a new hobby, regular the gym when women are there, or join a church. This board constantly seems to be filled with +6'0" white males with a good body, so you have it on easy mode unless you're a nerd who wants to discuss WH40K.

>>2877092
>be as much of a generic settled career NPC as you possibly could be
>that's definitely going to make you happy and attractive to the terminally single career foids
If you're already enslaved to your job and your landlord, you might as well squeeze a few shekels into your savings and hope for a bright future with the woman of your dreams. The system needs guys like you to dutifully pay your taxes. Maybe even volunteer! It's the best way to meet those womens, heh heh.

>>2877092
based
>>2877104
cringe

Can you show up to America with nothing, stack up a few thousand bucks doing menial labor, and then fly out into the greater world again for another spell of leisure travel? I feel like there are still a lot of opportunities for a white male US citizen to try this kind of hobo life in America. Aren't they always talking about how the farmers are hurting for labor and such? Of course you'd have to resign yourself to being stuck on a farm with no car, no spending cash, and probably no WiFi either. Only working, eating and sleeping. But after a few weeks of roughing it on foot in America, you'd probably be ready to lock into the grindset as long as it means proper hot meals and a comfy bed.

>>2877107
>Can you show up to America with nothing, stack up a few thousand bucks doing menial labor, and then fly out into the greater world again for another spell of leisure travel?
That's the formula I've been following. Except if you want to do this the meta isn't farm jobs, it's high cost of living big cities because the arbitrage is highest that way. If everybody is spending 3k on rent, that means they're getting paid enough to pay that. So if you can work a basic job and find a place for 800 you're already way ahead. And if you never eat at restaurants, don't have a car, don't go out to drink etc you can really stack. You can even have a normal life, and sexpat within America. In some stretches working in America I have had more sex than some stretches leisure travelling.

>>2877104
>NOOO YOU NEED TO GO TO A TURDWORLD BEING A WHITE MAN WALKING PIGGY BANK FOR SUPERFICIAL DOPAMINE HITS AND COOMS

Anon I travel with my job, but even I know nothing beats a nice community that's going to be there with you for the long term. Travel has it's benefits sure but at the end of the day when you leave that town, you're mostly going to be forgotten by people who hold those day to day and tight community values close.

>>2877107
Yeah bro try it, especially in trumps america

>>2877110
>nothing beats a nice community that's going to be there with you for the long term
That is disintegrating all across America and so many people do not have that.

>>2875669
Samsara

>>2875261
The barrier to entry to getting a remote job requires too much acquiring of skills, effort, and faggot networking.

I sit on my ass in an empty office building for $23.65/he with free snacks, coffee, wifi, peace, and quiet. I’m not giving this up unless I can pay someone to give me a remote job.

I’m not hustling and grinding and networking it’s just not happening. Too comfy

It has not always been good to me

If you hate america just move to Canada and shut up, they're taking in literal fucking plumbers right now so you have no excuse. I'm sick of fucking redditors like you bitching about how hard life is in the US but then doing nothing about it

>>2877091
man not gonna lie I got a (you) and I don't remember making that post nor do I understand why I replied to that other post and somehow linked it to twitter posters, kek. I must have been pretty drunk. nevertheless the idea of moving to fucking dubai to live in a 120F desert shithole jeet slum instead of just living in whatever american town with normal people and a mall and shit is still a retarded idea IMHO

>>2877108

I had this in San Francisco. One of my parents lived in the east bay and I lived in their house rent free and I worked in SF doing shitty easy jobs but high pay. Then I had to move to flyover country and the pay is dog shit out here and cost of living is still high.

I probably should've stayed there to stack cash. What do you do anyway?

I imagine doing any kind of menial job in SF or NYC can afford you to stack a ton of cash if you've got your living situation settled. But you'd have to not live around a certain race of people so you don't get murdered or robbed, and that could be tricky

>>2877110
You're missing the point. There never was any community at any point in my entire life. And there never will be. Even family couldn't hardly care less anymore. And yes, for years I tried to fit in here or there all across America. Most I found was people who exploited me for my work ethic and then dumped me when it was convenient for them, or when they grew tired of my personality. So that is the reality I have come to accept. Self-reliance and self-interest, nothing more. Get some money, then go live comfy and do my own thing for a while.
>>2877108
I completely disagree with your premise about big cities, because that's where everybody goes to when they are trying to make a buck. The competition is too high. As a non-NT white guy, I will be on the absolute bottom of the barrel in the big city. Yes, whites usually earn big bucks in cities, but they are all lifetime career cucks. You can't expect to earn anything close to those kind of wages as a hobo laborer. Cities are where all the immigrants gravitate to, because they have the advantage of having a community with connections for housing and jobs. As a white man with no such ethnic community, you're better off going to a white part of the country and seeking work the old fashioned way. I'd much rather work outdoors in the hot sun with an old farmer than with a bunch of insolent mutts in a restaurant kitchen, that's for damn sure. Or barring that, work as a housekeeper or janitor in a northern Minnesota resort. They have some pretty nice lakeside resorts on the edge of the Boundary Waters.

>>2877825

Farmers all across the country prefer to hire to illegals these days, but especially in majority white states. Guess you didn't get the memo. I hear even ski resorts in Montana are hiring nigs from jamaica and shit now lol

Country's a fuckin joke.

And nobody's talking about working as a dishwasher. There are all sorts of menial jobs in cities you can do, and stack together to make coin.

>>2877825
Are you me?
>>2877825
>As a white man with no such ethnic community, you're better off going to a white part of the country and seeking work
Yeah go to Seattle area and see how great that works out. For the most part the whites hate each other and anyone else who comes in.
White Americans are generally cannibalistic. You really are best off being born into a supportive group.
The rest of us got megafucked.

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>>2875261
The levels of hyperindividualism and hedonism
>disregard your nation, your local community, your culture, don't invest in your future, all that is irrelevant
>instead chase pussy in foreign places you have no connection to

>>2877833
White men eat good in Seattle. As long as you are the clean shaven, redpilled, straight edge form of white, you will always be welcome in Seattle if you're white. And if you're not that form of white, you might be accepted less but you will blend in better.
>>2877896
>disregard your nation, your local community, your culture, don't invest in your future, all that is irrelevant
>instead chase pussy in foreign places you have no connection to
If you're American this is exactly what your ancestors did. So the contradiction becomes:
Path A: Follow your ancestors by disobeying your ancestors
Path B: Disobey your ancestors by following your ancestors

All White Americans have this unique paradox that can never be fully resolved.

>>2875261
it is if you like daily shootings

>>2877898
>White men eat good in Seattle. As long as you are the clean shaven, redpilled, straight edge form of white, you will always be welcome in Seattle if you're white.
>be this
>get passive aggressive disrespect from random people over the most worthless and pointless shit
>live in total social isolation while there
>get managed out hard at a job because I wasn't vaxxed
>places like bars and restaurants sometimes give me shitty service and make me feel unwelcome like cunts
Lol shut the the fuck up.
I occasionally had people give little gestures like they're interested in me but I was too crushed from other things around me and in my life at the time to bother. The bulk of interactions and gestures was overwhelmingly negative though.

>>2878020
That's just the reality of being a white guy in the current year. It's only gonna get worse from there so you better toughen up

>>2878020
I got hired at jobs easily and had a lot of sex in Seattle. 2022-2023

>>2875476
ITT: Retards that have to go to an office
You'll never make bank working for someone else
Unless it's the government no one will hire you for more than you're worth
Apparently that's impossible to understand for wagie
Now back in the cage losers

>>2878030
>2022-2023
I'm not trying to be condescending, but were the girls slim, white, and kind?
As much as I love asian women, I am tired of not being with my own race. I need to experience that at least once more - it's been 7 years... Most white girls have been either too tense, too normie, or too faggy for me to bother with.

>>2878020
God, I hated living in Seattle.

>>2878256
>girls
>slim
>white
>kind
Pick three

>>2878033
I've seen plenty of people get paid more than they're worth. It's called politics and optics. They'll hide you and protect you.
Enjoy making hundreds of thousands per year while doing hardly fuck all. If anyone doesn't like it or makes noise they'll be gotten rid of.

>>2878033
>You'll never make bank working for someone else
The why do I have 450k in my bank account at 28yo?

>>2878277
Because you suck dick and get fucked in the ass by aids ridden Africans, that seems quite obvious here

>>2878281
>instant seething and talking about black men when his "reality" gets a counter-argument
that's fucking sad dude

>>2878283
getting fucked in the ass by Africans is sad? are you some kind of trump supporter?

>>2877085
If undesirable narcissistic slobs with bad personalities beyond virtue signaling and dropping hints about what they want you to do for them and they're inability to communicate normally so if you don't "take a hint" you're going to get more passive aggressive jabs, they turn people around you against you, gang up on you, and just keep antagonizing and harassing you until you submit and comply, then it is not me who's the problem.

I'd be the problem like an angel in a hellpit would be the problem.

The solution is to not work with such vile people, but when you're just starting out in your career it's awfully difficult to be choosy. I took what I could get at the time and was eager to work hard and grow.
I learned there, and more places after, that's not what corporate is for.

>>2878033
You always work for somebody else. Even if you set up a camera for a bunch of gay dudes to watch you jack off every night, you're working for somebody else. Only pure crapitalism (making money from money) does not involve working for somebody else. But you already need to be wealthy to become a crapitalist.

The employee has to obey his boss to get paid as per the employment agreement. The self-made man has to obey his client to get paid as per their contract. Yes you have more latitude to choose your client, but the basic dynamics are the same.
>>2877833
Settled property owners are always suspicious of rootless vagabonds who own nothing. Building trust can be a challenge. But if they trust you too much and see you as harmless, then they will take advantage of you, and with no local connections you have no recourse if a landowner refuses to pay you for the work you did and tells you to leave his property or be treated as a trespasser. Rural white Americans vary widely in their attitude toward outsiders. Some parts of the country are very agreeable to vagabonds who wish to hire on. Wyoming is a state which hires legions of outsiders every year. Others will give you a hostile look and tell you "no, we're not hiring, but you can fill out an application".
>>2877829
I've gotta learn to be less honest. Pretend like I'm broke and intend to be stuck wagecucking for a long time, even though I have plenty of cash and only intend to work three months before leaving America again. If you are not manipulative, you will never get your way.

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>>2878256
White women have been psyopped for 100 years into behaving like defective men. Asian women have not had the same treatment. I would recommend becoming religious (preferably Orthodox Christian), finding a girl in the faith, and trying to reverse the conditioning.
If you are trying to tackle this from the secular nihilistic framework, it's an uphill battle. Those girls are going to watch the propaganda on TV and tiktok telling them the way to be good is to be a girlboss, and you won't have another framework to provide them saying there's another way.

>>2878256
>I'm not trying to be condescending, but were the girls slim, white, and kind?
usually slim
not white
very kind though lol
I was slopping with uggos but I don't give a shit
>>2878468
it doesnt take 100 years. it just takes the length of time of an "education". all educated women have the brainwashing. mostly sucks but has some positive aspects too

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>>2878450
>even if you

>>2875261
>...and if your a perv eastern europe chasing non liberal women

which flavor of third worlder are these xitter accounts trying to trick dissatisfied white losers into blowing their western income in underdeveloped third world shitholes?
why does nobody talk about how many there are, and how many white morons take them as savants?

>>2878450
>The employee has to obey his boss to get paid as per the employment agreement
This. It's a simple concept, but so commonly misunderstood. Your job is to obey your manager. Engineering, or whatever your job is, is secondary at best. Your manager already has their favorites and choice of who they want in what position. Maybe it's you, maybe it's not. Your position in the company/team is already decided by them and what you do won't do much to change that. If your position is to tackle the more difficult problems, and coach the others, then you have to do that to survive. Then maybe when layoff season rolls around you're on the chopping block anyway. Your work, qualifications, and experience don't really matter. Your career begins and ends with your manager.

>I've gotta learn to be less honest. Pretend like I'm broke and intend to be stuck wagecucking
If you have options then you're considered a "flight risk."

>>2875261
Really Eastern Europe for pervs? Have I been doing it wrong?

>>2878566
One time I got fired on the spot a day after telling the owner's brother that I was planning to move on from my new job after the summer season ended. It was freaking April.

>>2878523
Until the American government starts serving its people instead of neglecting them for foreign interests, I will continue to take as much of my earnings out of the US economy as I possibly can. Go where you are appreciated. It's that simple.

>>2875287
Plenty in NYC and DC.

>>2875261
Most places I’ve been to are better than US.
Even Thailand which is a poor third world shithole. People there seemed happier

There are a lot of things that you take for granted in America.
Safe water, stable electricity, theme parks, being able to get obscure parts delivered for nothing, different kinds of restaurants, different kinds of nature, enforced building codes, plumbing the works. etcx1000

If you're a loser in America you'll be a loser over there as well and even more so because you won't speak the language.
But go ahead, go to Vietnam and look for a tradwife. You won't. Pussy.

>>2878609
your expensive income is appreciated moron.
surprise, but if that wasnt the case you and your culture would be seen no different than indians are to americans.

>>2879503
YOU take all this shit for granted, because you have lived a life of privilege and plenty since the day you were born. Now go try to find safe drinking water in your nearest town without paying $1.59 + tax for a 500 mL water bottle at a convenience store. Chances are none of the public fountains will work. All of the streetside spigots will be turned off.
>you won't speak the language
Conversationally gifted normies always think this is a huge roadblock. But for people who have dealt with misunderstanding and aversion behavior from Westerners all their life for being born neurodivergent, the language barrier validates any conversational difficulties you may have while overseas. Overseas, you aren't judged as defective for struggling to communicate; rather, you're accepted as a foreign traveler who is different from everyone else.
>>2879553
The truth is that hospitality culture has severely waned over the past few decades in America. That's why you see so few young people hitchhiking and wandering around the country. They all stay home in their parents' home, too daunted by a country that has become only superficially polite to strangers. Going door to door asking for a job? What's the chances that a firm handshake will get you hired these days? Zero. A vast reservoir of suspicion and distrust underpins the smiling "nice to meet you, what was your name again". You don't get those fear and aversion responses in Asia, as a general rule. People don't see a random solo male as a potential threat. Very few people in this continent carry a firearm so they can kill anyone who harasses them. Hospitality culture is still very much alive here, and guests are trusted by default.

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>>2879585
Go off, king

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>>2877110
>muh community
When i hear the word community" i reach for my revolver

>>2879626
Most other people in the world don't love their neighbors, but they still tolerate them very well. Americans live hundreds of yards apart from each other but still can't stand each other's company. What gives? Why do I get so freaking annoyed when random white boomers say "how's it going" in public in America? They clearly don't like or trust me, as a non-owner of property, but they are demanding that I respond to them with some inane pleasantries, and they get offended if I remain silent, saying snarky comments like "fine, how about you?"

>>2879635
They had 1.5 kids and barely wanted anything to do with them. Now they're looking at a society that is emptied of young people that look like them and wonder why no one can stand them. Maybe a few of the kids they would've had would let them hang around.
That's the real red pill, community is just a few friends you grew up with, maybe a dude from work, your immediate family and some of your extended family. I think that's also why Gen Z is going back to Church, they live in a Matrix pod devoid of human contact.

>>2878450
>You always work for somebody else.
This.
Learn to enjoy serving others and take pride in your work.
Make your boss look good and treat them with respect, and they will look out for you too.

Also sometime after age 30 people start to give you more respect, whereas in your 20's people look at you like a dumb slave to exploit.

>>2879678
cucky copey

>>2879678
>Learn to enjoy serving others and take pride in your work.
Laughable. That's exactly the attitude that gets you exploited.

>>2879585
Go ahead Senpai. Sounds like you've got it all figured out.