>>2876169
Woth a week or two visit after that it's the most generic SEA place possible without any of the perks

>>2876174
What’s the best SEA country? And what do you mean by perks

>>2876175
>What’s the best SEA country?
I don't know what you like so what am I supposed to say? For all I know you like rock climbing

Women in Malaysia are pretty well known to be closed off or scammy.
The amount of things to do run out pretty quick
Beer is expensive due to mostly muslim
The serving sizes of food, while amazing looking, are retardedly small
The history of malaysia is pretty meh just "yeah so british ruled here for a while and left... I think ww2 happened"
The party vibe you get in thailand, singapore, vietnam, HK, just straight up isn't there or is insanely expensive.

Overall if you don't drink, just like seeing jungle shit, some cool new buildings, and want to be fucking cheap stays go for it. Enjoy WHOOOO IS ALLLLLLAH in the morning make sure not to book right next to that shit as it gets annoying, fast. It's the perfect place for a gap in tourist visa resetting

>>2876169
It sucks. The women are ugly and act like cunts. It's a muslim country so they have rules for goyim, eg in the supermarket they sell cheap rice but only to malaysians, the metro costs $12 a month to malaysians but foreigners get screwed, foreigners have to pay a nightly tax on every hotel/hostel etc
No malaysian person will ever give a shit about you, the other expats here seem to be heavily compromising by being here. No one cares who you are or where you're from, there's basically four groups of people and they're completely hierarchical in this order: malays, chinese malaysians, jeet malaysians, and foreigners.

>>2876177
I like the food. Popiah are amazing and hard to find in the US, the texture of the wrapper is kinda soft and spongy and it comes with a unique fermented bean dip sauce (how i've had it in the us)
I also like their stir fry noodles
I would never visit a Muslim place but I bet some of the food is good.

>make my money woof
hehe

We can never have too many SEA threads

>>2876169
Petronas Towers, Batu Caves, Brickfields, Melaka, Merdeka 118, National Mosque, Bukit Bintang

Not much to it really. The food scene is really good (I mean legitimately good), but otherwise its pretty mediocre.
One of the primary issues I had with malaysia and Kuala lumpur in particular were Indians being everywhere. They are basically the labor caste, but I still dont want to see them all the time.

Having Indians around is like a bad smell in your house you cannot quite pinpoint and get a whiff of randomly through the day, disrupting your peace.

>>2876229
Yea I heard the food is dope. I kind of want to just have a 2 week foodie hiatus between cooming in other countries

That people here are saying Malaysia is bad proves that nobody has any interest in nature. Everyone is just visiting places to coom and get drunk. And I get it. It's fun. But I have all that at home if I want it. I don't have massive jungles and orangutans at home, but Malaysia does.

I spent a week in Malaysia.

Pros:
> Cheap
> Everyone speaks English
> Extremely safe
> Decent infrastructure (leftover from british)
> Best food on earth (combined the best parts of Thai, Indian, and Chinese cuisines)
> Night markets (run by the chinese minority) are as good, if not better, than the ones in Taiwan.

Cons:
> Utterly BORING
> Islamic laws mean nothing interesting ever happens
> No culture of excellence. There is nothing terrible but also nothing amazing. Very typical of Muslim societies, it's a side side effect of the belief in qadar (predestination)
> The country was handed a golden platter of a plentiful resources + great legal system + infrastructure when the British left. But they squandered it though incompetence and corruption.
> Innovation and business development is done by the successful chinese minority, but the chinese are heavily discriminated against by law (school, jobs, government grants). It's actually quite sad.

Malaysia is absolutely perfect if you want a cheap, safe, family friendly vacation with your wife and kids. But very boring if you like anything interesting. Thailand / Vietnam are much better for that.

The best, and easiest way to visit Malaysia is by going to Singapore and doing a day-trip to Johor. That's more than enough to see the country, you might get bored of the country after a few hours (like I did).

I'm very convinced everyone here is only visiting Johor and Kuala Lumpur's downtown area for 2 days then leaving. It's like visiting Shenzhen and saying China has nothing to do, or visiting Switzerland and only going to Geneva.

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>>2876250
>Innovation and business development is done by the successful chinese minority, but the chinese are heavily discriminated against by law (school, jobs, government grants). It's actually quite sad.
most of the chinese here are racist schizos and dont care about it or know about it. they are happy patriotcattle and all their social medias are blocked from talking about or criticizing it so they are none the wiser. they have a civnat mentality where a brown malay or malaysian jeet is viewed as the in group while they hate their own blood brothers from china with a passion.
and the chinese were undeservedly gifted all of the capital when the british fucked off, they didnt rise to the top by merit. most of the chinese malaysians are dysgenic af compared to mainlanders or taiwan

>>2876177
>It's a muslim country so they have rules for goyim
I had no problems finding alcohol

>>2876276
man overseas chinese are so insufferable. Chairman Xi smite these faggots

>>2876276
>while they hate their own blood brothers from china with a passion.
For everyone else out there, this dude is just a seething chinaman. The Chinese in Malaysia descend from people who moved there centuries ago. Many have been living there since the 13th century. Older people don't even speak Mandarin, they speak languages like Hokkien.

This is like seething that Brits don't feel any connection to their Norman brothers back in France.

>>2876287
If your point here is that Malaysian Chinese see themselves as Chinese to the same extent (some) modern day French would see themselves as British, ie not at all, you are wrong. That anon's pic proves as much when the girl says
>马来西亚的华人和中国的华人完全不一样
>Malaysian Chinese and PRC Chinese are completely different

Such phrasing making clear the point that she sees herself/both as Chinese (华人)

Malaysia elicits a lot of hatred from degenerate Zionist-coded shills for the simple fact that the country does not recognize the existence of Israel. Malaysia is also one of very few countries who refused to sign a declaration condemning racism. Ethnic and cultural segregation is the norm in Malaysia. This also makes shills butthurt.

The truth is that Malaysia is full of beautiful pleasant experiences for those willing to explore the country. Public transport between towns in Malaysia is affordable and comfortable, but if you really want to see the natural beauty, waterfalls and caves and rainforest treks, you need to arrange private transport.

Dining culture varies hugely across the country. Food prices are significantly higher than in Thailand. Anons who complain about small portions are eating at 5 minute fastfood slop joints in the big city. Ingredient quality at such places is also low. They are intended for the working class. Leisure dining - i.e. the really good food - is an evening and nighttime pastime in Malaysia, so save your appetite for after dark. And be prepared to pay $5 or more for your meal. Don't think you're gonna enjoy an amazing plate of food for $2.50. If you're new to the cuisine, you'll think it tastes good, but once you try the really good stuff, it's tough to go back to mee goreng tier slop.

>>2876292
You're a dumb ESL who can't speak English and couldn't understand my basic ass sentence. You argued against the opposite of what I said. Retard lol

>>2876276
All Chinese diaspora (Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia) are all massive cocksucking faggot racetraitors. No different than a white libtard. The Chinese diaspora are why people hate the Chinese, but if you go to China the people are really friendly and welcoming.

>>2876285
at 10x markup
>>2876294
t. literal ministry of tourism shill

>>2876309
I noticed I got the direction backwards after posting thanks but did I actually miss the point you're making? That there are several-hundred-year-old migrations of people that were once one and now don't remotely consider themselves one?

>>2876310
I had the same experience. All english speakers are white libtards or slightly discounted versions. They're all a part of the english media/algorithm bubble
>>2876313
you don't get it, it's like when white americans think they are more similar to basketball americans than they are to other white people

>>2876315
Evidently I don't get it. I have no idea what the point you're trying to make is between
>This is like seething that Brits don't feel any connection to their Norman brothers back in France.
and
>like when white americans think they are more similar to basketball americans than they are to other white people

>>2876315
>it's like when white americans think they are more similar to basketball americans than they are to other white people
They are.
t. other white people

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I use it as a spacer for visa hopping so people don't think I have a job in some country. It's fine but this is the average exp, the gem of Malay is George Town IMO.
>land in KILA/KILA2
>wow it sucks here
>remember the train is bullshit and dumps you at the gayest station ever and the following metro is also gay and get a grab
>SIRS WHERE U FROM SIRS for the entire ride
>get to Airbnb that is available to host men because like 1/2 are women only
>looks (kinda) like the pictures close enough to where you can't call airbnb to refund nothing horribly wrong
>aircon will suck, they always suck, any gym is cardio shit in the condo, pool is kiddie piss bowl, air makes wanting to sunbathe a chore
>go out for some food, wow it's so cheap why don't I come here more often
>realize the serving size is meant for human skeletons if you gym good luck keeping your daily intake hit
>go to the supermarket realize you went to the wrong one because this one is HALAL only so you have to go to a mall for the other good stuff
>find whatever walmart tier shit to buy and cook at home
>decide to go out since an event is in town CHINKS CHINKS EVERYWHERE when you do make it inside the vibe is like jr high dance shit
>go get a beer at a pub after realize everything is highway robbery even for SEA
>Chinese girl sits down with you, says she has some cute friends (this is a scam run)
>try to chat with locals, they are legit retarded. I have no words they make pino's in Manila look like educated fun people. Seriously I explained to a few friends I made years back there was a china town in KL (the city they grew up) and were like wut that is not true. Most only have one topic to live by and that's it
>every point of interest is a 1 trick pony, there is 0 reason to revisit

I know some fags here love it, especially the country, but all you will see is pale imitations of british culture and chinese moving in non-stop. No they didn't move there 2000 years ago they are the ones actively fleeing.

>>2876394
truest post I ever read on this site

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What's said in the thread and
>book max 90 day stay in Malaysia
>read malaysia is awesome and has tons of cool things
>alright will see north parts, KL, and johor
>it's literally india lite but with random chinese towns everywhere
>every town has maybe 1 week max to see everything
The food is SSS+ if you want to photomaxx for instagram with girls in other parts of asia, but it absolutely sucks in terms of cost for the money.

>>2876412
the post forgot the constant smell of sewage and cheap places to eat where brids fly in and poop right on or next to food. I remember getting some street food and seeing rats run around the kitchen while the owner was like "ah no problem no bite".

>>2876315
Europeans don't consider white Americans to be trad based trve Scotsmen just because one of their great great great great grand uncle's ex-wives had a great great step grandfather who lived in Scotland 300 years ago. Why would a Malaysian who's got a family lineage 700 years in Malaysia have any connection to The People's Republic of China?

The food serving size thing is a common complaint but an issue I never encountered personally in Kuala lumpur

Im 5' 11, 175lbs and active and was satisfied every time.

>>2876438
>Im 5' 11, 175lbs and active and was satisfied every time.
lol please tell me this is bait

>>2876440
It's a ministry of tourism "I'm having a blast" shill

>>2876312
My last Malaysia trip was really enjoyable. I blogposted about every town I visited on r/Malaysia and got hellacious updoots. Can't wait for the new railway from Kota Bahru to Kuantan to be completed. Terengganu is an extremely beautiful state, but it has the worst public transport in the peninsula, which makes it a hassle to visit. It's also one of two peninsular states (the other being Kelantan) where it's almost impossible to find beer.
>>2876394
All of this sounds like a skill issue. I met intelligent people in Kuala Lumpur. My rooms all had powerful silent A/C units. If I wanted to get stuffed, I'd go to a dhaba style eatery run by a 250 pound Muslim guy and he'd serve me a giant plate of mutton curry - full of big tender chunks of sheep - with biryani rice for $5. Double burgers cost $2 and are sold on the street late in the evening all over the country. Each one is about 4 oz of beef. Human skeletons my ass. Malaysia is full of beefy fat Muslim guys who stuff themselves with meat on a regular basis. Stop going to the Chinese food courts. Chinese are much more racist toward whites than Malays are. Of course they're going to give you three fishballs and two tiny scraps of pork when the regulars get eight fishballs and six pieces of pork in their noodle soup.
>>2876418
Sparrows hopping all over the food prep counter is common in lower-class restaurants in Thailand and Malaysia. What can anyone do about it? The rats and roaches are sewer dwellers. Usually you see them when they are making a connection from one drain to another. Their presence has no bearing on food quality.
>it's literally india lite
You clearly haven't been to India. Only a few Malaysian cities even come close to the impatient aggressive driving behavior that is universal in India. Malaysian urban development is much more uniform than India, which varies hugely from one block to another. Malaysia's roads are also in excellent condition compared to India's roads.

>>2876443
>new railway from Kota Bahru to Kuantan
Didn't know about that. Seems it'll be ready early next year.

Got any suggestions for the east peninsula? I've seen basically all the best spots on the western side and loved it. Think I might go and see the east next year if this train gets completed on time.

>>2876454
All of the coastal towns of Terengganu were quite pleasant. Besut was a shithole, but it's the departure point for the Perhentian islands. Marang is a hub for boaters. It's incredible how many boats go in and out of that harbor every day. The islands off the east coast are reportedly amazing, but they are some of the priciest places to visit in Malaysia. Taking a boat out on Kenyir Lake and doing some rainforest camping also sounds like a helluva time.

>>2876637
>The islands off the east coast are reportedly amazing, but they are some of the priciest places to visit in Malaysia.
Malaysia's islands (on both sides of the peninsula) are some of the most attractive places in the whole country and there are some good events on the islands.
Pavarotti stayed on Pangkor Laut island (little island next to the main Pangkor island, off the west coast of Perak state) years ago and since then they have had "opera in paradise" events every year. I have been to Pangkor but not to Pangkor Laut so I might go myself this year. Yes it is pricy.

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>>2876443
>If I wanted to get stuffed, I'd go to a dhaba style eatery run by a 250 pound Muslim guy and he'd serve me a giant plate of mutton curry - full of big tender chunks of sheep - with biryani rice for $5
Ah yes where birds regularly shit into the food, rats run around just out of site, and your 'filling" meal is 99% due to the naan bread given. Yes anon I can get "full" on a bowl of tomato soup and loaf of bread. Yeah alright now break down the protein and nutrient to balance out your diet for a day of walking and gym. Also not sure where you are going most those meals are now 20RM minimum for the base plate at places like that which is going to be 50% rice, unless you're on the real outskirts where good luck not getting had as a white guy.

>You clearly haven't been to India
This board has to have paid malay shills making 5rm a post, hey dumbfuk that's why I said it was india LITE. India has some nice places if you're willing to go find them where the cops will beat anyone begging senseless, same as Malaysia. It's still overall insanely dirty, filled with insane homeless, shit everywhere, open sewage, smog hell, low quality living.

The main benefit Malaysia has for it is that it's english speaking, cheap as shit, and easy enough to get around. It faulters on basically every other level of interest to anyone willing to throw down cash. As stated by other anons, it's GOAT if you need to visa reset and don't care about gooning while not breaking the bank.

>>2876177
Best answer here.
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>>2876680
>no you're the shill!
Yet you're the one who keeps smearing Malaysia with ridiculous claims. No there is not going to be any birdshit in your food. Outside of the KL slums, dishes are always kept covered. Yes it is easy to eat large quantities of meat or fish for $4-6 USD. Yes it is normal to get served more rice than you want to eat and leave some on your plate. No, Malaysia is nowhere near as dirty as you make it out to be. Picrel is what the drainage ditches look like in one of India's best-developed cities. No Malaysian river is this contaminated with rubbish. You need to get around more. You'll find more filth and strewn rubbish in Bakersfield California than you will find in Ipoh Malaysia.

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This is a random street in Kota Bahru, one of the poorest cities in Malaysia. Notice how it looks nothing at all like its Indian equivalent. Even the best Indian cities look worse than this.

Now of course that doesn't mean other countries are not much more appealing to visit than Malaysia. But any attempt to call Malaysia a dirty shithole is categorically disingenuous. In fact, you only notice the design and maintenance flaws because the country as a whole is so well-kept and clean. In other tropical Asian countries, the well-developed areas are the exception, not the rule.

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LMAO it's actually the Malay shill, dude must been tricked that is qadar was to defend Malay online.
It's india lite because
Every Malays stinks something fierce when walking around, you notice this as an outsider
Conversations with local everyday malay are akin to speaking with some dub 85 IQ indian
The amount of techsupport(scams) running in the country and that use singapore proxies are fucking insane only challenged by africa or India
The infrastructure built by the english is crumbling and Malay are too fucking stupid to figure out what to do, this leads to the king sucking Xi's cock for some Wild new project idea that does nothing to help the poverty piling up everywhere
Any day that's hot you'll almost always have a fun smell of sewage seeping up from the side of the barely covered roads
Good luck finding any water to dip your feet in or sit by that isn't full of things that would kill you
Can't flush tolietpaper tier country
Food quality control is nonexistent, again those "hekkin cheap" restoran's often have huge bug, rat, birdshit problems but I guess it's kino because you can tell instagrammers please like and racist if not
Women are dogshit to even talk with on a platonic sense
The reason for revisitation is basically at 0 because the people there can't make anything interesting

Lastly, you're exactly like india lite because the second anyone brings up some mild very tame criticism that's valid it turns into a mult stage copium episode of NO SIRS SEE MY PHOTO? GOOD YES VERY NICE PLEASE VISIT YES! SIRS PLEASE YOU ARE BITCH IF YOU NOT!
>>2876914
Yeah it's usually clean on the main strip, not go off the main path is fine now go to Kuilim, butterworth, and norther Johor and find some alleys to walk down. uh oh.

It's hilarious that virtually any other country can have some criticism given and people will roll with it, but malaysia gets some factual shit thrown around and the defense force shows up

>>2876911
>No there is not going to be any birdshit in your food.
i can't say i've ever seen birdshit but there are plenty of rats and cockroaches around. the open drains that run in front of shop lots contain a lot of interesting wildlife.
>No, Malaysia is nowhere near as dirty as you make it out to be.
lol it absolutely is. of course they keep the tourist areas tidy but believe me there is rubbish everywhere. although the place i live is reasonably nice- give or take a bunch of takeaway containers dumped around the place- about half a mile away there is a cheap apartment building and it is an absolute mess. abandoned cars, flytipped furniture, general shit is everywhere in the street running alongside. the cars is the weird thing. they just sit there for years, leaves and stuff piling up on top, but it seems they almost never get broken into or stripped for parts like they would in most countries
>No Malaysian river is this contaminated with rubbish
maybe not but there are some that come close. the main problem in malaysia's rivers is industrial pollution
>>2876923
>Conversations with local everyday malay are akin to speaking with some dub 85 IQ indian
harsh but fair. they are not bright people generally

>>2876915
>But any attempt to call Malaysia a dirty shithole is categorically disingenuous.
Ah right Klang river doesn't exist or have regular dregging due to the amount of garbage that collects into it
Any back alley goes from okay to shit, the only real reason main places can look good is because the rampid poors pick up anything that could be sold for a ringgit. Walk by any mid tier chinese/malay community for some real eye-opening shit or do those now not count?

> only notice the design and maintenance flaws because the country as a whole is so well-kept and clean
No, I notice it because I go "huh what's that smell?" look around and keep walking; or I just do what everyone else sees. The construction or reconstruction of what is clearly english inspired and cultivated buildings, towns, segregation, and design; all being slopped together by Chang and co all speaking mainland chinese trying to make tofu buildings that will fall apart by the time my tourist visa is over.

Malaysia has some cool things to it, don't get me wrong but it's often hilarious how /trv/ specifically has this random amount of shills ready to talk about how "no you see a few picture here means we are first world! we even have big outside Air Condition walk way BIGGEST IN WORLD!" like wow cool dude... everywhere else has normal useful things. Yeah cool AC outside, now I can just smell the smog and sewage while being slightly cooler.

Penang is pretty comfy. Some half decent bars, the food is crazy good. Old archietecture and narrow streets with lots of action. Haunting chants from the mosques during the evening. Chill walking along the harbour and also out in the sticks towards the National Park. If you are ok with things being a bit more expensive than Thailand but not having to be harassed for MASSSAGE!!! then this is the place for you.

>>2876960
You mean George Town right? Butterworth is kinda okay I guess? but Penang is just where all the rich people kicked the poorfags out of the island to.

>>2876961
Butterworth on the mainland is pretty dire.

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>>2876961
>the food is really AMAZING IN Malaysia
Is this a meme or something?I feel like virtually anywhere SEA has good food for the price, maybe I am spoiled as a US citizen living in a port town where I can practically get any kind of food from polish, to kenya, to indoneasia, etc. The food's cheap sure but that's like all SEA. The most I can see about Malaysia is the presentation of dishes is better than their neighbors

>>2876960
>be harassed for MASSSAGE!!!
I miss this right now. I'm so handsome man ;_;

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>>2876959
These Malaysian towns are still some of the cleanest, most well-kept places you'll find in all of the tropics. On par with many Californian cities for cleanliness. And nobody cares about your hypersensitive nose which is offended by the slightest odor of dampness from the drains.

>>2877080
I personally just let people think Malaysia is awful. They can keep going to Thailand while I enjoy a normie-free experience in Malaysia.

>>2877080
SIRS LOOK THE STREET CONSTANTLY USED BY CAR CLEAN!!!

Okay now walk down that street and deal with the trash vendors throw around constantly, go to any street market, look at any alleyway full of flytipped shit, now explain the smell. It's not hard to have a main town center or road clean anon. I could literally post a street in Detriot or some hood and go "see look the road is clean the houses look pretty clean" but if you've been you know it's not.

Again, this is a turdworlder argument who doesn't understand what being clean is because they've never been around it. Hey have constant issues with hygiene since most restaurants only care of their halal certification. Washing old food to clean it for resale, leaving it out while birds peck at it because whatever, bugs literally everywhere, rats with who knows what on them, running around is constantly brushed aside because "wow cheap food, look so yummy! food on street corner safe in malay all day!" bullshit. Don't get me started on the mold issues, air quality issues, and sewage system that is just covered up by some stone on many side streets.
> On par with many Californian cities for cleanliness.
LMFAO, yeah dude I too only think that California = LA run-down migrant districts.
>And nobody cares about your hypersensitive nose which is offended by the slightest odor
I yeah dude I too love living downtown where smog is heavy on some days with literal health advisories, tuktuks and other BS auto cars blowing black smoke out, the smell of sewage+mystery chemicals on a hot day from the main rivers; and oh let's not forget the acid rain warnings/health warnings regularly issued by your gov
https://www.met.gov.my/en/pencerapan/mendapan-asid/

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>use google maps in a city to get around
>go through this side street
>see this
>but sirs... the car road is of clean!

>>2877003
LOVE YOU VERY BIG

>>2876979
I find there is more variation in Malaysia compared to other SEA places like Thailand and Laos.

>>2877111
You have Indian, Chinese, Thai, Western and Nusuntara cuisines all available in a single country. What Malaysia lacks is Vietnamese food, unfortunately.
>>2877089
Duh. Rubbish has to go somewhere. If there are no rubbish bins, it's going to get piled on the ground. Most of Malaysia has big green rubbish bins all over the place. Many rural villages they dump trash on the edge of the village and light it on fire. But the main streets themselves are swept clean.

>>2877116
That's in the heart of chinatown in KL

>>2877116
>Rubbish has to go somewhere. If there are no rubbish bins, it's going to get piled on the ground.
Why not take it to a dumpster or load it in a truck to take to a dump or call the city you have excess trash?
> Many rural villages they dump trash on the edge of the village and light it on fire. But the main streets themselves are swept clean.
"we are just as good as california"

>>2877116
>Vietnamese food
bro

>>2877089
That's bad when compared to the standards of Japan or Korea or something. Not going to deny that. But by the standards of large SE Asian countries, that's much cleaner. Vietnam is much dirtier.

>>2877087
>tuktuks
dude malaysia doesn't really have tuktuks
i think you've mixed it up with camobodia or thailand or something
we use grab here

Yeah, go to the Borneo part and you can see orangutans and other cool jungle shit. Kuala Lumpur is comfy, can do a bit of shopping there. The beach resorts are a bit iffy/awkward though since you get all the Gulf state muslims there and their wives in full black robes are passed out on the deck chairs.

As a Malaysian, I really don't understand foreigners obsession with our country.

>pretty much no decent walkability and public transport unless you're in the golden triangle aka Kuala Lumpur
>heat and humid all year round making the above issue even worse
>food is alright, but it's mostly carb and oil and spices, I imagined it appeals more to foreigner
>too many illegal aliens roaming around, bangladesh, mainland Chinese and indians, rohingyas
>predominate by muslim which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but they adopt retarded "religious" laws onto the constitution, making everything less fun

If I were to describe Malaysia, it's the jack of all trade of SEA. Infrastructure is not the worse, English is widespread, relatively cheap and good food, and overall safety is alright.

Can someone explain to me why massive fuckhuge USA style gas station complexes are a thing in malaysia along the highway, but I haven't seen that anywhere else in SEA?

I'm talking like buck-ee's style complexes every couple of miles.

Is the whole highway system so new that they just built this stuff at the same time or what?

>>2877411
All of malaysia is a cheap knockoff of USA
>multiculti but unofficially segregated
>laws and spaces favoring women
>state enforced racism against the lighter races
>no public transit outside the capital - everybody drives everywhere
>politicians involved with epstein tier sodomy shit
>even the flag is proudly a cheap knockoff of the Betsy Ross

I want Muslim mommies

>>2877365
I never had to take a taxi ride in all my travels around Malaysia. Yeah, you get sweaty walking around. Most Malaysians are fat and lazy. They hire immigrants to do all the hard labor. Nonetheless, there are many towns with trails leading to hilltop overlooks that hundreds of residents climb every evening for exercise. Even my fingers start sweating when climbing these hills at full speed. It creates patches of itchy sweat blisters along their sides - the sweat gets trapped under the toughened layer of skin.

Only during monsoon does India see humidity levels on par with what Malaysia sees year-round. Rainstorms regularly force you to stop whatever you're doing and take cover - but this applies to motorbike riders as well as pedestrians.
>>2877411
The country has plenty of room. West Malaysia has less than one-third the population density of Vietnam.

>>2877190
They aren't as widespread in Malay but yes they exist anon, especially when you get closer to border cities. Not everything is KL

It's much more of a first world country than Thailand so if you want to act like a degenerate it's probably the wrong place for you. It's essentially a poorer, larger Singapore.

This board should really be split into /tdg/ (travel for degenerates) and /tva/ (travel for adults), I don't know how everyone doesn't get bored of bitching about how they went to a country that isn't the USA and they're mad that they can't openly do a bunch of sketchy drugs and fuck children and shoot water buffalos with grenade launchers, this is why I never come here anymore

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>>2877365
I think Malaysia is OKAY, what I don't get is the push for how it's the hidden gem of SEA when it's just an average SEA place with slightly less fun events due to muslim laws being leaned in.

If you're babby mode traveler from an English-speaking place, Malay is probably the safest bet to go visit since you 'probably' won't be scammed in the context of being scammed by cops in vietnam or given the run around like in thailand. You'll also see if the weather that is elsewhere is okay and can get around pretty easily.

Biggest problem I have with Malaysia is the same as Korea, after you've seen it once it's very hard to find any reason to return. First time sure t's fine, some of the new infrastructure they built is neat, and then you look for anything else to do and realize 'yup that's it'. Even during your first time I hope you aren't going around any chinese or malay holiday; you'll be FUCKED visiting anything fun.

>>2877411
Due to how grab/taxi economy runs it's basically required to have those style of places to serve and get clients, if you look around the cities you notice few properly maintained stations that can service that size fleet or sell proper quantities of diesel.

>>2877474
>It's much more of a first world country than Thailand
Why because it doesn't have such obvious coom shops? I hate to break it to you but even in KL those places are dogshit easy to find. They are virtually the same minus the fact Malay's king has a fancy for trying new country bankrupting infrastructure ideas.
>It's essentially a poorer, larger Singapore.
Not even man, Singapore at least kept up their infrastructure after occupation. They made the most of their small size and don't kneel over to muslim standards. I get this place hates Singapore with a passion because it's more expensive and being white isn't an instant way to get attention.
>This board should really be split into /tdg/ (travel for degenerates) and /tva/ (travel for adults)
LMAO no, it would be a cluster just stop replying to coom posters and they fuck off, this board is slow enough after the IP fencing 4chan did post hack to not need more sub-fracturing.

>>2877476
Every country has a sex trade. Not every country has entire cities built around it.

>>2877477
>>2877476
Also I'm not sure where you got the idea that I'm dunking on singapore considering the whole point of my post is to dunk on white people who are butthurt over asian countries not living up to their fantasy of oriental lawlessness and degeneracy

>>2877477
If that's all you see in Thailand you have quite the small world view lol. I don't recall any city in Thailand being built around and on the foundation of sex work.
>>2877479
>point of my post is to dunk on white people who are butthurt over asian countries not living up to their fantasy of oriental lawlessness and degeneracy
I'm not a sexpat but anon you're going to have a REAL bad time if you can't just skim over and ignore convo's surrounding that shit. First time traveling? Maybe stick to Scandinavian countries, not countries where 1-5 USD means their family eats that day/week and sex is a way to put bread on the table.

Like maybe try r/travel

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>>2877481
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattaya

I never said Thailand has nothing to offer, but if you're sincerely asking if "there is anything to even see in Malaysia" it's pretty clear what you're after, and it's not trying all the local varieties of rojak or photographing Southeast Asian vernacular architecture

And if you don't have enough common sense to avoid getting your kidneys stolen in MALAYSIA of all places then you have no business going to some seedy sex trafficking hot spot in Thailand, maybe just do a road trip to Branson Missouri in your grandpa's RV instead?

>>2877487
Anon, I literally go to Malaysia yearly, George town is GOAT. I have no qualms with it I am just saying you're point of view is pretty focused on caring about what other people are doing. I never questioned what there is to do in Malay, I'm just saying overall it's more boring compared to it's neighbors and offers very little in the respect of revisitation for anything but a place to crash for tourist visa spacing.

If you're coom brained into thinking "fun things to do" only means sex, LOL. The events hosted there are borning as shit often closing far earlier, after parties are shafted due to the amount of Muslim laws, restrictions of imports(like booze), and overall not caring. I'm talking about concerts, talking about comic events, talking about EDM fests, etc.

I'll use a non 'degen' place like Taiwan or even HK they try to spice things up at the very least with things, have some supplemental events around bigger events, advertise it more than "what you not see it on tv or on radio?"(seriously why is the tourist industry so bad in malay). If all you want to do is retreat to an asian, mostly english speaking place for 90 days on the cheap; Malay has you. If you want to do anything other than play vidya in your condo and load up your phone with instagram-tastic food pics, got bad news for you.

I'm not defending the bullshit that is sexpatting, just saying you're in the wrong place if you get rubbed wrong by it.

>>2877492
I guess you got me there, I'm not much for EDM or "raves" so if a place has a mediocre scene where you have to go home at midnight and there are only three kinds of molly I never would have noticed

Comparing Taiwan to Malaysia is kind of like comparing Switzerland to Malaysia, of course they're going to be different experiences, if you're a single-issue traveler then by all means chase your single issue and ignore all other countries, the question was Malaysia or Thailand though not "Malaysia or literally all the other countries on earth"

>>2877481
Southeast Asians are nowhere near as poor as you think. Minimum wage in Thailand is more than $10 per day. In fact, the brokefag tourist is likely to be the only one trudging the streets as a form of transportation. Everyone else is tooting around on motorbikes. Even bicycles have become much less common. You see soulful oldsters riding their ancient bikes, but young guys and gals, never.

>>2877494
My EDM is just K-pop/J-Core stuff, not drug infused hollywood movie style Epstein raves. Again those aren't single issue things, going to something like Anime Festival Asia where they bring in cool merch and high profile artists isn't exactly related to some other things I like to do like hiking events or historical parades that aren't "we were farmers".

Again, I used Taiwan just as a non sexpat destination since you seem to be infatuated by it being what SEA is solely known for.

> the question was Malaysia or Thailand though not "Malaysia or literally all the other countries on earth"
Okay, Yearly events: Thailand objectively has more artists, amount of diverse events, important figures, and things to do than Malay. It also follows up these events with supplemental events that aren't nerfed by the random muslim law/custom.

I am going to a expo in Thailand next month actually, before the expo there is a meetup in a pub nearby, then there is an after "party" in a larger bar/event hall for those wanting to go. A similar expo the other year in Malaysia is as follows "go to event, it's sundown everyone go home thank you sirs for coming" and MAYBE find some people to chat with and chill with because for some unholy reason every event center has to be crammed into a normal shopping mall. This was the same for virtually all cultural and festive events.

If you're an extrovert like myself, you're going to be bored senseless by Malaysia after the first visit. If, however, you're much like the digital nomads I run into where you go to a new country and spend 75% of the time chilling in the airbnb/condo eating cheap food great. Malaysia has you covered where you can just be alone and have things cut and dry in any event you attend.

>>2877496
>Southeast Asians are nowhere near as poor as you think.
I didn't say all, but the poverty is rampid and people bending over for that extra cash when you have no welfare system to speak of is a job.

It's harder when you realize not everyone is paid fairly at 40hr/wk, and tax being as low as it is in the USA. 15k/mo DESU as a local might not get you very far.

>>2877503
I'm neither an extrovert nor a digital nomad, I just have family from SEA and I have lived and worked there on and off, so "75% of the time chilling" is about right, except replace "in the airbnb condo" with "in the lancer maniacally honking the horn in gridlock traffic". I have very little insight on burning men, full moon parties, and things of that nature, so I'll defer to you on that

>>2877507
>I have very little insight on burning men, full moon parties, and things of that nature, so I'll defer to you on that
Ah yes going to a J-core event in a 40-50 person sized pub with a dj set up is akin to going to Burning man.

>I just have family from SEA and I have lived and worked there on and off
Holy fucking context anon, if you have family and ties to the community through them of course that will change the perception. I am fairly sure 99% of anons ITT are talking about going for tourist ventures. Learn to read the conversation my ESL friend, holy lol.

>>2877474
>this redditor is heckin ADULTING thats why he's a WINcel
cope

>>2877508
Sorry for trying to contribute to the conversation, I'll see myself out. And then in another 18 months forget why I don't come here, click on /trv/, rinse and repeat.

>>2877429
if USA was developed out of a colonial tropical trading post that got rich in the 1920s then ok sure.

>>2877503
Anti-coomers act like the moment you get off the plane in Thailand you are abducted by roaming gangs of Ladyboys and forced to be a sex slave the entire duration of your stay. So many dishonest virtue signalling Puritan takes ITT

>>2877511
USA was a British trading post that got rich in the 1700s

>>2877510
If you can't understand the context of why someone would view a country, city, or province differently compared to someone who is a tourist visiting with no connections made; idk what to tell you. I'm fairly certain the majority context is through the eyes of a tourist m8.

If I had someone ask my about where my family lives and where I go back to see them I understand I am going to see it in a completely different light and accept how it could be seen as possibly boring.

>>>/int/ might be your speed if looking at the place from a local/has direct ties conversation. Pretty sure everyone here is looking at things to do within a 90 day visa and keep things interesting.

>>2877517
I mean, maybe I'm just crazy but when I am getting ready to see a new place I go out of my way to talk to people with ties to the area, I guess it's just a completely different psychology? There is no such thing as too much information especially since tourist/expat communities tend to be quite insular and borderline incestuous with how information and opinions flow

>>2877519
Before I book anywhere I make sure there is at least some event interesting enough to warrant a visit. Otherwise why bother traveling?

I'll go out and talk to people, at these events, maybe at the bar/pub as well, socialize when I can but even then. Socializing is key sure, but there has to be reason to book in the first place. Malaysia just falls flat when looking at interesting things to do on a yearly basis, which is why I primarily use it for a visa spacing adventure, workout during the cold months, and get a beach session in with Georgetown.

What I am getting at is that if you value your time, when comparing it to other countries in he area or a short flight away, Malay fails to appeal on most regards outside what has been stated of cheap/english speaking/relatively safe. For entertainment it's a different ballgame.

>>2877512
I will never understand it
>yeah I wouldn't mind going to X place again but not a lot of interesting of fun things I want to see.
>faggot runs in
>UHH YOU MEAN SEX? HELLO SEXPAT! HAVE SOME STANDARDS
>No I mean like amusement parts, shows, concerts, events, fun stuff
>SEE THERE IT IS "fun stuff" THE CODE FOR SEXPATS
>dude what are you talking about I just listed-
>SAY NO MORE I AM HERE TO TELL YOU HOW SEX ANNOYS EVERYONE ESPECIALLY ME! YOU NEVER WILL UNDERSTAND THE JOYS OF LIFE WHEN BILLIONS OF SPERM MUST DIE TO PLEASE YOU SIMPLETON

bro really should have taken the advice early on and just gone to r/travel where pondering it for amusement it's banned

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>>2877526
t.

>>2877529
>>>/soc/ is for selfies bro

You guys are fighting and I'm headed to KL here in a couple days. See you soon :*

>>2877531
based. Enjoy the knockoff watch markets.

>>2877519
Why are you Magaysians such pussies about acquaintanceship? There's no difference between some faggit you know and some faggit you don't know.

>>2877531
My condolences. I'm here for another two and a half months. My recommendation is to stay in Mont Kiara or near KLCC, and avoid all Magaysians at all cost. Magaysian Magay, Magaysian Chink, Magaysian Jeet, doesn't matter. The only thing they have in common is social autism and being inbred mouth breathers. The foreign community suffers in silence beside their retardation.

>>2877538
>>2877539
you sound like a complete cunt anon. it's hardly surprising nobody wants to friend you

>>2877539
You're either some fag in your 20s and wrongly think you're some super genius and everyone should respect you, or you're some grumpy fag in his 50s who realizes his life is coming to an end and has resentment towards everyone who finds happiness in the world. Either way you're an annoying fag.

>>2877656
t. Magaysian

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The one thing that annoys me about Malaysia is how they are a bunch of pussies when any criticism comes their way they completely lose their shit. No other country in SEA has this bullshit, Say indonesia has issues? they agree, Vietnam? Thailand? Cambodia? yeah they all agree country has major issues.

Malaysia?
ACHKTUALLY SIRS MALAYSIA PRIME SEA COUNTRY!! SIRS!!!

it's so fucking weird

>>2878220
Wait until you talk to Singaporeans. Then it's
>YOU JUST DON'T LIKE TO SEE ASIANS WITH MONEY. DON'T YOU KNOW SINGAPORE IS ASIAN COUNTRY WITH MOST MONEY? WE HAVE MONEY AND WE USE IT. YOU'RE JUST RACIST AGAINST ASIANS WITH MONEY. YOU SHOULD VISIT AGAIN TO LOOK AT OUR MONEY
I can get countries having intense national pride. Singapore is probably the only country on earth where there's intense financial pride above all else. Not even the swiss brag about their money.

>>2878220
This is complete bullshit, and you know it. Start trash-talking any country, and its inhabitants will either refute your points or tell you to shut up and go away. Like all miserable people on 4chan you blame the society around you for your own personal failings. Whereas miserable people in Philippines, Thailand, Cambodia have plenty of degeneracy to drown their troubles in, which distracts them from doomposting. And Vietnam doesn't seem to attract miserable people. They simply stay away from the country.

>>2878290
Just take the L Magaysian

>>2878220
Malaysians cannot accept any criticism against their country.

Boring ass country overall. I was impressed with the economic development and how a bunch of cars on the road there are actually made in Malaysia. Food is OK, alcohol is expensive, and lots of people speak English. I stay in Thailand so it was a relatively inexpensive destination for one week. I wouldn't recommend anybody to travel halfway across the world just to see Malaysia.

>>2878220
>>2878314
this is pretty much true. if you look at any youtube video about malaysia, practically all of the views and comments will be from malaysians, because they love it when foreigners say nice stuff about malaysia
but on the other hand they are ultra sensitive if anyone dares to criticise the country. they talk shit about the place to each other but if any outsider says anything they have adopted that whole "if you don't like it then leave" attitude from americans.
this goes double for the food. no other country on earth is as unjustifiably protective of their food. a few years ago there was a malaysian on a british cooking show and the judge didn't like something they cooked for some reason and it caused a major shitshow. this is from a country where the national dish is basically just rice and bunch of random leftovers on a plate

>>2878393
Lol. It really is just a discount version of Muttmerica.
>racially schizophrenic
>fat entitled women
>political clownshow run by geriatrics
>carcentric
>no culture/history
>entire economy dependent on endless waves of illegal poor brown people
>self-loathing but chimps out if you criticize

>>2878400
Americans aren't that bad IRL, most all will instantly agree the country has some big problems. As seen in this thread Malaysia has no faults and issue you have with Malaysia is because you probably didn't understand culture.

I remember having some talks with some Malay natives, when I wasn't totally wow'd by the food they have or some tall building they threw up it was like I insulted their mother.

>>2878323
I would for Penang. Stay in the George Town City Center though as the resort area is pretty boring and the beaches are only really ok. Loads of tat, art, and random street displays to wander about in and of course eating. Then maybe a few days in Langkawi. Malacca is kind of cool at night with the market and bars along with the river. Ipoh has a bit of a vibe as well if you want another couple of days. All together with say maybe a night or two in KL and you have a pretty good little vacation. If you get bored you can always book a cheap Air Asia flight up into a random Thai city and get aids and then fly back before you leave.

>>2878263
I can give singapore a bit of leeway here because their country is so tiny and butted up against malaysia. The only people I know who hate singapore are fags who plan a full 90 visa stay for some insane price and then get mad after 1 week they've seen the entire country

>>2878290
>trash talk
That's the thing just saying you're slightly annoyed by X thing has malay throw their hands p and go full muslim jihad on how wrong you are?
>yeah I didn't like the air quality
>SIRS AIRQUALITY NOT BAD U SEES FROM MANY GOOD BIG FACTORY SIRS WE STRONG PEOPLE
>why do you have acid rain warnings?
>SIRS IGNORE NOT REAL YOU BITCH LOOK AT NICE FOOD PLEASE SIRS

I'll just accept the criticism people had for Malaysia. The less unsavory people come here and ruin the place like what's happening in Thailand, the better.

>>2880048
>i-if you don't like it, leave!!11!!
Every time

>>2876169
If you go to Malaysia on a Thailand mentality it will suck.

Cameron Highlands, Penang, Malaka are great. This is not a party place. Get freaking fat and enjoy. Low key best cuisine on earth

>>2880071
Generic islamic theme park, le food is the biggest cope

>>2878400
>No culcha
Is this true? What is it either just Chinese (imported) Muslim (imported) or some kind of Abo gobbledygook?

>>2876276
Why did Malaysia split from Singapore over hatred of Chinese then?

>>2880085
>1963
>Singapore joins Malaysia
>1964
>Widespread racial riots in Singapore
>1965
Singapore splits from Malaysia, no more race based policy
>1969
>Widespread racial riots in Malaysia, hundreds die
>1971
>Malaysia introduces New Economic Policy
>"Temporarily" gives gibs and affirmative action to Malays
>Malays get preferential access to government jobs, schools, and services
>Was supposed to end in 1990
>Still continues to this day
>The government introduces a mass censorship apparatus where overly negative discussion of it can get you jailed indefinitely
>Entire social contract barely held together with a thin veneer of civility hiding an authoritarian surveillance state where the wrong opinion can get you banned
>even sites like 4chan are blocked at the ISP level because they have free speech
If you come make sure you learn how to change your DNS if you want to read this. Didn't have to fiddle with any DNS settings to read 4chan in China btw

I genuinely do not understand why people will travel to the other side of the globe just so they can drink a different brand of shitty alcohol and coom with different money. The club scene sucks? Ok but why would ANYONE go to southeast asia for the club scene anyway? Make it make sense please.

>>2880082
>What is it either just Chinese (imported) Muslim (imported) or some kind of Abo gobbledygook?
all of the above, plus hindus, christians and pretty much everyone else. which one is more prominent depends on the area and/or how likely people are to get a day off work
>even sites like 4chan are blocked at the ISP level because they have free speech
this is not universal, as evidenced by the fact that i am sitting here in puchong and able to access 4chan and most other websites e.g. porn, gambling, without any problems. however, i am using a network which is not my own. i wouldn't like to try all of those things on my home wifi
also "free speech" on 4chan is an illusion
>Didn't have to fiddle with any DNS settings to read 4chan in China btw
doesn't matter, your traffic would still have had to pass through the great firewall which means that the government could see what you are doing anyway, if they could be bothered

>>2880158
>muh drydicc virtue signaller
>>2880172
>running damage control
>behind a VPN and seven proxies
>still afraid to give the based post a (You)
Glowing in the dark

>>2880177
weirdo

>>2876169
Yeah

>find a good room with good logistics I really like and want to stay in for a few weeks
>first night I learn the Islamic chanting is loud enough to wake me up before 6am and I just lie there seething until I can fall asleep again
>wake up later but still don't feel great because of the sleep interruption
I... I just... Please.

>>2880205
>i went to a majority muslim country, on purpose, and i was surprised to find muslims there
amazing
next time find a room further away from a mosque. duh

>>2880205
Tourism Malaysia will downplay this but it is inescapable and legitimately sucks. Even in the Chinese neighborhoods with few muslims it's still loud

>>2880251
>Even in the Chinese neighborhoods with few muslims it's still loud
where i live i can just about hear the early morning one (if i'm up and about at that time for some reason) because there's not much other noise at that time of day but the others are pretty much inaudible
a lot of cheap apartments etc here only have single glazed windows which doesn't help if you live too near one of those fucking places

>>2880177
>can't get laid at home
>has to go to a third world country hoping to get laid
>even poor women in the third world country won't touch him
>goes on 4chan to complain about virtue signaling
lol, poor guy

>>2880273
Out of nowhere:
>*smacks lips* oogah boogah muh muhfuggin DICC so goddamn DRY nigguh yallz DICC aint as muhfuggin DRY as me nigguh
OK good for you dude?
>sexsexsexsexsexsex homesex sexsexsexsexsex thridworldsex
lolwtf

Just heard it again. I realize I'm not going to get away from this sound unless I search high and low for another apartment and prepare to do more moving around bullshit that I'm so tired of. When I look up this noise they're making I see:
>As-salatu khayrun minan-nawm (الصلاة خير من النوم) — “Prayer is better than sleep.”

It's settled then. God has acted for me. I'm going to go along with this. I'm going to use it as my alarm and get started earlier than usual and become blessed by Allah.

May gains be upon me.

>>2880284
Based and immersion pilled

>>2880284
Wait until they begin sermonizing for two hours from 5:45 AM to 7:45 AM. That really got to me.

>>2880284
How do night shift workers function in Malaysia? Retards always suggest earplugs, but those don't actually fucking do anything for loud and reverberating noises, plus they're uncomfortable.

>>2880350
same as anywhere else dude
malaysia is a 24 hour a day kind of place. even at 3-4am you can find some street corner mamak type place with a jumble of crappy motorbikes outside and people eating fried rice and stuff

>>2880350
>loud and reverberating
you're in a uniquely shitty location

>>2880383
Night shift workers do often live in shitty places since they work shitty jobs, yes. And I don't understand how they sleep during daytime when there's a noise so loud that it blasts through the entire country 5 times a day with the purpose of waking people up and making them pray.

>>2880392
What neighborhood are you in? I think most people live in the suburbs and the noise doesnt really affect them

>>2880392
>when there's a noise so loud that it blasts through the entire country 5 times a day with the purpose of waking people up and making them pray.
it doesn't do anything of the sort
honestly dude did you move in to a place right next to a mosque or something

>>2880207
>find a room further away from a mosque
This room is in the same neighborhood as my previous one. Just a couple minutes walk up the street. The angle I face the mosque though is different. There are apartment buildings right next to the mosque and the old room had them in-between my building and the mosque and the sound was never really an issue. Never woke me up and I just thought it was a pleasant sound in the evenings. Now there's nothing between me and the mosque and the volume difference is substantial.

I have the loudspeakers pointing directly at my side of this new building.

>>2880403
>did you move in to a place right next to a mosque
Not him but yeah I did lmao. This detail is something that slipped by me when I came to see the room beforehand.

>>2880397
>>2880403
These are some "but I did have breakfast today" ass responses.

I'm asking a fucking hypothetical. Never did I say that I'm a goddamn night shift worker. I'm just wondering how those lower middle class workers manage to handle it since Malaysia has mosques every few blocks and they blast sound out several times a day. And surely rent is cheaper in loud ass places, so poor people working convenience store night shifts are probably living in those cheap places.

Now learn English, ESLs.

>>2880482
>Malaysia has mosques every few blocks
the foreigner containment zones like mont kiara klcc etc dont have

>>2880482
>These are some "but I did have breakfast today" ass responses.
what on earth are you even yapping on about you utter raving imbecile
>Malaysia has mosques every few blocks and they blast sound out several times a day
unless you live in a big muslim area like shah alam (where malaysia's largest mosque is) the noise from the mosques is barely noticeable above all the other noise of everyday life. in most places it is drowned out by the traffic noise.
>Now learn English, ESLs.
you first

If you dont want to hear muzzrat noises dont go to muzzrat shithole

>>2880483
>>2880508
Again, I'm asking about what poor, actual Malaysians do. And your responses are
>saar you are tourist you stay very very double deluxe fine hotel saar why you hear noise saar
I'm not asking about myself. And even outside Muslim areas (Malaysia is a fucking Muslim country, so that's nearly every area) there are mosques. I stayed in the Majestic Malacca, a typical touristy hotel, and that place was unbearably loud with the mosque noises. I imagine it's louder for actual locals who are forced into shittier accommodations. I'm wondering how it is for them. I'm not asking how it is for a rich foreigner who stays at a hotel. I'm not in Malaysia right now. I know that Malaysia is primarily Muslim and that there are mosques everywhere. I'm simply curious how it is for people who need to work at night and sleep during the day, since there's a reality that those sounds will blare 5 times a day. No, I'm not asking for hotel advice. No, I'm not living there. No, I know that you're lying by saying traffic is louder than mosques. I've been there several times and I know the mosques are louder. Yes, you are retarded and have zero idea of what a theory of mind is or what it means to be curious.

>>2880524
you're lying, and posting a multi paragraph rant trying to establish credibility won't help you
I was recently in malaysia for two weeks and was never bothered by mosque noise ever in KL
I've also traveled all over the world and I know to bring earplugs for situations with noise coming through windows/doors in my hotel, and to try not get construction or street facing rooms
however, it wasn't an issue in malaysia

I cannot fathom what type of mental illness compells this contrarian shitposting, but it's obviously crippling for you

>trying to take a gap between countries I normally frequent
>stay in condo with a view
>blackout curtains on the listing so feel good about it
>cheap too
>crack of dawn
>GOOOD MORNING SIRS!!!!! prayer blasting
>fuuuuck
>bought ear plugs and noise cancelling headphones so not horrible to tune out
>still hate wearing them as don't want to break headphones and ear wax build up after so many days is annoying
>well alright maybe it was just due to the month having holidays
>move to north, check for mosques
>now somehow longer morning prayers and longer nightly prayers
I'm sure it becomes background noise after a while if you live there but if you're not use to it, you're going to HATE IT and I can usually sleep through thunderstorms.

>>2880525
>I was recently in malaysia for two weeks and was never bothered by mosque noise ever in KL
when I booked a meh hotel before I left I couldn't hear shit, but that shit didn't have any decent view of anything other than shitty bums walking around at night and then the cars in the AM. Yeah you "can" block some of it by staying in the heavier Chinese filled places but then you have to negate all the decent places to stay with things like good ac, sizable condo/apartment w/ amentiies, etc.

>inb4 it's malay tourism agency asking people to please come

>>2880525
I'm not talking about tourist areas in Kuala Lumpur. I'm not asking about your personal experience as a tourist. I'm very aware you never made it through middle school and cannot comprehend that I'm not asking your personal experience or my own. I've been all over the peninsula and Borneo and I know you've only stayed in the most touristy areas because you've experienced nothing.

>>2880483
That's absolute bullshit, KLCC for sure has it, while might be slightly quieter but it's 1000% still there. If you hear it every day you're going to go numb to it, similar to living near a busy highway, or church in the usa(which most only play on Sunday for like 10 minutes usually at the end or well after 10am).

These threads are hilarious, I guess Korea actually got blocked and Malaysia found a way to shill here. Where if you said anything that wasn't unrivaled praise of the country you have some shills defending it to death.

Malaysia is fine to visit once or maybe for a cheap visa layover, but man it has very very few reasons to return to it outside of that. No "muh food" is not valid virtually anywhere else in SEA you can get foodie-tuber tier meals for cheap; and the best part is that you still have 23hrs left in the day for something fun.

>>2878290
>Start trash-talking any country, and its inhabitants will either refute your points or tell you to shut up and go away.
Okay
>PH
Mention it's got infrastructure problems and has some issues with inflated prices, 9 out of 10 will agree with you right away.
>Thailand
Mention the metro and train lines could be improved a bit and some of the construction in some places makes no sense. Most will agree
>Vietnam
Talk about how the HSR incoming might be a waste and could just update the near 1940's rails and trains would be easier and cheaper. Find me someone who disagrees
>Singapore
Mention how it seems like a lot of the country feels like it never recovered from covid and is just erasing it's past. Yeah anyone over 30 will agree
>cambodia
lol everyone knows
>Malaysia
Yeah so this place is kinda boring, don't you have anything that isn't just NEW TALL BUILDING that's too expensive for most people to live in?
>ACHTUALLY SIR WE HAVE GROWTH MANY TIMES LOOK AT CHEAP DISH WE HAVE GREAT FOOD PLEASE LOOK NEW BUILDING LOOK AD BAD IMAGE OF OTHER COUNTRY WE LIKE 1ST WORLD NO NOT LOOK INTO KLAN RIVER OR KwH PRICES SIRS NOOO! NOT ASK WHY SO MANY CHINESE FLOODING IN WE CULTURED!

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>>2880524
jeez anon you appear to be an utter moron
>Malaysia is a fucking Muslim country, so that's nearly every area
see pic related
>I stayed in the Majestic Malacca, a typical touristy hotel, and that place was unbearably loud with the mosque noises.
i don't know the hotel but i had a quick look and the nearest mosque is nearly half a km away. i guess you must just have super sensitive hearing or something.
>I'm not in Malaysia right now.
i am
>I know that Malaysia is primarily Muslim
see pic related again
>and that there are mosques everywhere.
yes, but they are easily avoided. more common are suraus, basically prayer rooms, which are often just shed like places and don't have the call to prayer
>I'm simply curious how it is for people who need to work at night and sleep during the day, since there's a reality that those sounds will blare 5 times a day.
actually i have worked into the night for a while because i am working on a project on euro evening time. i sleep during the day, or at least most of the morning. i have never been bothered by mosque noises.
>No, I know that you're lying by saying traffic is louder than mosques. I've been there several times and I know the mosques are louder.
i am currently in my office in selangor. i am on the sixth floor. naturally i have the air con on. despite the fairly good double glazing i can hear the traffic from the 10 lane road nearby. the nearest mosque is about 1km away. in between there are several housing areas with tower blocks. they would have to invest in a considerably louder sound system for the mosque to be even faintly audible.
>Yes, you are retarded and have zero idea of what a theory of mind is or what it means to be curious.
do grow up anon

>>2880541
>>I'm not in Malaysia right now.
>i am
Yes, we know. And we don't care.

Non-Malay BumiChad here. We just learn to live with the Azan. Some of my chink friends use it as an alarm because we have to get up early to join the rat race (traffic and public transport is hell here in Kuala Kumpur).

>>2880543
i too find it necessary to make the effort to deny caring about things by commenting on them anyway

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>>2880541
Are you actually trying to debate if Malaysia isn't that big of a muslim country? Like yeah it isn't Afghanistan or some desert shithole, but it's ever-increasing Muslim traditions and rules that muck shit up. Ah yes nothing like a NON MUSLIM country that prints if you are muslim or not on your ID for liquor, have odd hours, have specific stores for muslims, and also have different rule sets. Let's not forget they have to post bathrooms and rooms are cleaned by women(gasp!), the horror!

>actually i have worked into the night for a while because i am working on a project on euro evening time. i sleep during the day, or at least most of the morning. i have never been bothered by mosque noises.
Wow you mean sitting in a business concrete slab building with double pane soundproofing windows specifically block ensure employees work in a silent environment? wow. Yes anon those tend to be build for noise separation, anon is talking about people who sleep from your typical schedule in a home where it might be single pane glass. Where the shape of the building being in a specific direction can amplify sounds or capture them.


Also
>sirs look at graph
Ah yes common India tier tactic of "looks sirs... actually much like persia chad... look see graph". This is why you guys are basically India lite, you ain't there yet but boy you guys sure are trying.

Good grief
This fucking thread
How do you people get like this? Are you like this before you come to this site or is it the site that makes you like this?

>>2880541
>i am currently in my office in selangor. i am on the sixth floor.
My girl in cheras lives on the 31st floor and still hears the fucking mosque

>>2880617
This is literally nothing, it's just anons laughing at obvious malay shills getting heated about their country being unbelievably mid tier for visiting. I'm one of the idiots who when I visited ate up the hype of malaysia posted here, holy shit what a wash. The only reason I didn't up and leave or get super upset is because my stay was so cheap and I had to be somewhere else that it wasn't worth caring too much about. Like congrats you're okay living there in Malaysia, we get it, but for anyone not a slob/poor class Chinese tourist it basically has 0 reason to do anything other than a week or two in KL and fuck off forever.

Laughing at these Malaysians go "no no you see it actually not like this at all! Maybe you make mistake sirs? Nothing but beauty in my city sirs." This thread would be a nothing burger if it didn't have them tripping over themselves to defend the shit.

>>2880671
I fell for the memes and signed a 3 month lease. Still 2 months left. Bored af and wished I lurked more. The shills got me bro damn

>flight prices a shit
>decide ML might be good heard good things about the food, the people, and price
>blow through everything interesting in KL in a week and some change
>try to find shit to do elsewhere
>all go see the abandoned site that closed down, old English built infrastructure, some farm, or mosque number 5000
>nope seen that shit
>just get a bike bro lol!
>malaysia upped their bike laws to be shitty as fuck
>use the train to get to some small places
>realize it comes pretty infrequently to be picked back up, shit nothing to do in some of these places after seeing <thing>
>>2880679
My advice is just join a gym anytime fitness has a lot of locations there, might as well beef up

>>2880681
yeah place near me is 24/7 and 48rm a month. no a/c but its whatever. i just grind the gym and learn chinese in preparation for taiwan.

>>2880683
Yeah, that's probably the biggest positive of ML, if you need some place to focus on working out, any projects for work, and learning some language shit. I can't think of a better SEA country free of distractions.

Are dating apps practically dead for others here or am I just the gigachud?

>>2880700
Depends, dating isn't the hardest thing in the world to do in Malaysia but it is filled with the most scams I've found. Can't count the amount of times some chinese girl has talked to an anon or friend of mine, "they know a place" then run up a +300USD bill to their workplaces bar and then want to hop to their friends owned bar. Without knowing what kinds of girls you are actually meeting with and where it's hard to tell.

It's like Korea, it's not exactly hard to get something but it's sure as hell easy to get scammed.

>>2880700
The MIDF will call you an incel
Based on my cold approach interactions dating with Malaysians is a meme
Find other foreigners. The third worlders who work as illegal slaves in the food & beverage industry are unironically angels

Biggest issue for Malay is the Chinese girls that have a game to scam you. Seriously just google "Malaysia date scam", it will get you a LOT of hits.
Dating a local muslim malay is basically off the table.
The small christian minority won't date outside their circle
Club and bar scene you can guess how it would be in a predominately muslim country...

like >>2880703 said,
You're really only going to get backpackers taking their gap year in SEA or people there stuck with work and striking out as much as you are looking for anything they can get. If you do get any locals to "date" and it's not the obvious scam, you're just going to be used for a meal+practice English.

>>2880702
Scams in Korea? Like what?

>>2880706
They are nowhere near as bad as malaysia but Korea scams are usually too cheap to care, like going to a 70/80 club or like and having you pay. So, you're out like maybe 100 bucks tops for a shit load of drinks and some karaoke.

Other that that it's mostly just "hey let's go to X and chat :)" only to just be an english teacher for 2 hours. Hardly scam levels but quite annoying.

>>2880705
>Dating a local muslim malay is basically off the table.
But that's exactly what I wanted ;_;
Skinny little hijab hottie to shuffle around with me.
I'm going to be a chudcel gainsmaxxer hermit again until I get this.

>>2880712
I read on the internet that it's possible. Are you muslim yourself? I'm not and i got few numbers from them. They seem way more friendlier than the chinese malaysian

>>2880527
>posts on board for tourism
>"im not talking about tourism"
You are a fucking retard.

>>2880712
Go to jakarta if you want slutty "muslim" girls.

>>2880712
I mean it's 100% possible to get a 'muslim' girl who basically only is 'muslim' in name, but unless you have some niche hobby they also share good luck.
>hijab trad muslim
lol yeah they are called cosplayers or London citizens

>>2880716
This is a travel board. Tourists need not apply.

>>2880705
>Club and bar scene you can guess how it would be in a predominately muslim country...
malaysia has some awesome bars. especially cocktail bars. the rooftop bars in kl are some of the best. it is one of the country's redeeming features. they are not particularly cheap though.

>>2880746
lol you're a tourist anon. just admit it

>>2880753
I swear most of the people posting about Malaysia have never visited or really just stayed in a tiny family oriented tourist district of Kuala Lumpur. Bars are everywhere in Malaysia. I rarely ever drink and I came across a bunch of bars and did decide to go in one. Nice atmosphere and definitely better than most places in my home country.

I can't say how prices compare to other places though, since I drink maybe 5 times a year and have no clue what shit typically costs. But I guess it probably is more expensive than Vietnam.

>>2880759
>they're good if you have nothing to compare them to

>>2880762
I'm fine with not being drunk all the time and I'm not bothered by missing out on other bars. Yeah, there's a lack of gay bars in Malaysia, but that's a problem for you and not me.

>>2880778
>bars are everywhere in Malaysia and they're fine if you have nothing to compare them to but who need bars anyway except for gay bars which you need LOL GET REKT INCEL

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>>2880778
>>2880783

>>2880702
Wouldn't this be easy to avoid just by choosing the place that you go with them? Simply don't take anyone you meets suggestion at face value.

>>2880791
>girl proposes a place
>guy says no because it could be a scam
>guy proposes a place in return
>girl says no because it could be a scam
It's fundamentally broken dude

>>2880753
Rooftop bars are okay I guess if it's your first time ever and just barely old enough to drink, then the novelty wears off especially in a climate like KL
>>2880759
>Malaysia has awesome bars!
>I don't really drink
I'm not a guy running for the bottle every time I hear social interaction come up, but this is just not true. Some of the bars are okay but nothing special the English themed pubs are nice but that's not special.
>>2880791
>counter offer place
>Oh noooo anon sorry :) no that place is dirty and far I local this place good :)
or
>haha that place is scam they not make good drinks!
or
>okay but after we go to other place ya? :)
any other amount of BS, there is really no way around it unless you want ghosting.

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>>2880778
This anon has ISLAM printed on his ID and can't buy alcohol 10000% (for his own protection). Please Kashmi do not go against qadar and keep up post!

>>2880783
I met up with a few Malay friends I made, they had 0 self-awareness as to what the level of bars were suppose to be. All were basically texas road house tier or chilis tier places.

>>2880826
oh anon you sound so worldly wise i'm sure you have been to every place in the whole city and you're not at all just another arrogant /trv/ cunt
>>2880832
they can't buy alcohol but they'll drink it if they can get hold of it

>>2880838
>oh anon you sound so worldly wise i'm sure you have been to every place in the whole city and you're not at all just another arrogant /trv/ cunt
No I just know what a bar is suppose to be, I've been to malaysia, and from comparison of the bar life in USA, Japan, Korea, HK, Taiwan, Scandinavia, and some other places. Malaysia bars, the country I spend months into visa reset+kill outstanding projects+gym for 3 months; KL has terrible bar culture.

It's just bad, the drinks are overpriced and mixed like something I assume applebees would give me. The bar vibes are that of middle age and middle america Texas Roadhouse where people are just happy to not be drinking at home. Every conversation that isn't with a chang is "yup here for work" or "yup backpacking through malaysia" or maybe aussie cunt who's been tricked and too dumb for Bali.

Yes you can find good bars, but the vast majority is crap. You have the best luck in George Town since most rich white people like to get out of the trash.

>>2880746
dumb fuck comment of the year award for 2026 candidate

This thread is actually very valuable if you are thinking of spending some time in Malaysia. The pent up seething retarded foreign faggot crying about everything while still mysteriously choosing to live in Malaysia is EXACTLY the type of dumb prick you will encounter on repeat there.
It's either this weird breed of coping subhuman who probably got banned from everywhere else somehow, or ultra normie non-sentient automatons with their family in tow.
There is no reason to be there if you are young and trying to have an active social life. Malaysians are ultra-retarded and ultra-conservative, and their society is based around indian and indonesian slave labor, and pretending to be as islamic as possible a month or two out of the year. You have never seen real virtue signaling until you live here, then you will understand how lightweight western retards are on that shit by comparison.
It's one of the fakest places in the world and if you don't get tired of it VERY quickly, then you are either chinese, retarded, or a wanted criminal in other SEA shitholes.

It's FINE, maybe even GOOD for a week of tourist activities, KL is kind of neat for a few days, go see the public parks, get some tours of the buildings you like, go to the caves, go to the aquarium. Then FUCKING LEAVE.

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>>2880878
>>2876394
Pretty much these, if you stay in Johor(for whatever reason) you can get a really cheap month to month place, then cross down to singapore for events that are actually worth a damn. I know it's been echo'd in the thread but for any anon thinking Malaysia is a hidden gem, it's not.
The absolute best I can say about it is:
that the food is going to be something you can fill up instagram, tinder/bumble(or the like), for dirt cheap since bitches love food and I will say the presentation of the dishes is noteworthy at times.
If you really need to just focus on work while abroad and need a cheap place with minimal power outages or natural disasters you found it.
If you want to focus on the gym, it's pretty decent hardest part is getting proper protein and meals not just looks good shit. Anything not chicken and rice shoots the cost up dramatically
If you're too scared with digital nomad posts about being caught, Malaysia does not give a fuck lol.
If you want to go to SEA, not be seen as a coomer, and want almost full english you can do it with ease in KL, Johor, Penang
If you're into abandoned inrastructure because lemme tell you a lot of the british companies that overnight left shit there and the locals were like "DUHH HOW DIS WORK?" is all over.
Finally, if you're kinda muslim or muslim adjecent you'll probably like it.

At the very least it's safe and cheaper than PH, but at the minimum PH has events/festivals and a diverse amount of interesting things to attend that don't make me think I am at a formal work party as an "event". The thing that will drive you up a wall is that Malay's shut down quick if you are offering them praise 100% of the time, for the most part, their midwest tier city achievements.

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>>2880878
>The pent up seething retarded foreign faggot crying about everything while still mysteriously choosing to live in Malaysia is EXACTLY the type of dumb prick you will encounter on repeat there.
Also to be fair to those anons, I kind of get it as a digital nomad. During Jan/Feb/March-ish my work is balls to the wall busy with projects and new budget to implement projects. So, Malaysia is perfect for me to stay in warm George Town or KL where I am not going to be looking to go do <thing> as much as I would elsewhere in say Taiwan or some hike/festival/event around Chiang Mai or wherever. I can pay 450-500/mo for all utilities included, no on visa extension BS, no questioning or fines by cops having a bad day, etc etc.

I personally am not a huge fan of it, so I would say warning others about it's boringness is valid but that can be a benefit for some. Like picrel, that's right downtown for 375/mo(seen as low as 275) really not bad if you are just trying to save some cash and grind out some DN work.

>>2880886
>shared bathroom

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>>2880888
What's the deal with /trv/ and a shared shitter being so much an issue? I refuse to believe the autism flows that much on this board or there are that many people with IBS.

>>2880890
You don't even have your own place. Is that a single bedroom in a condo with others?
Shared bathroom is disgusting anyway. How can you be so poor to need shared accomodations?

>>2880891
I have a bed, desk, AC in the room, and kitchen to use. That's really all I care about having, I can work in my room, go to my gym AF in the morning, grab or bus to a beach for the afternoon, then grab a meal or cook something before snoozing.
>Shared bathroom is disgusting anyway.
How do you shit or piss when you're out and about traveling? Most these places in Malayasia have someone who comes in and cleans a few times a week.
>How can you be so poor to need shared accomodations?
It's nothing about being poor, it's just that I don't need more, if you need that shit fine go find a place that fits your needs. Oh no someone is in the pisser I'll wait 5-10 minutes and come back. Wow that wasn't hard. You can go look on airbnb or vrbo or whatever for a place with a bathroom attached if it's seriously that big of an issue.

>>2880890
I don't want to smell or see someone else's shit every single day.

>>2880896
Bro this is a thread about Malaysia and you type that?

>it's a try and derail the thread over a shitty airbnb post tactic
every fucking time

>>2880890
Are you fucking serious man? Sharing a shitter with other people is fucking disgusting.

>>2880886
>room
>shared bathroom
>malaysia
>350 buckaroos a month

....kek?

>>2880902
>>2880903
Okay go to another airbnb, that's not the only listing in Malaysia. You can find them for 400/mo all private in KL. I don't care enough since on a plane, train, bar, club, gym, etc I'm going to be shitting there or showering like the gym; you know like most adults do. If you're bothered by it find some other place.

It's astonishing how triggering something you spend maybe 5-8 minutes in tops is that much of an issue when it comes to booking.

>>2880906
You're fucking disgusting. Probably an indian or seagook subhuman. Imagine paying to share a shower and shitter with diseased fecaloids. Barf.

>>2880906
I'll use a public toilet outside because I have no choice. At home, I don't want to go in and see some faggot's shit stains on the toilet and piss splattered all over the seat. I don't want to have to wait 45 minutes while some fag sits on the toilet and plays on his phone. I just want to shit when I please. That's why I pay for my own toilet.

>>2880906
only retards use airbnb. I have my own room + bathroom in KL for 900 rm a month. Kitchen is shared hypothetically but there's no one else on my floor yet. It's a brand new building and I have a/c desk etc