my impression is that in America, especially at the lower price point, you can run into some shady characters and room options, and in Europe they might try to ding you for damage you didn't cause, but Asia isn't as neurotic about such things, but that could be a mistaken impression.

But yes, as well, if you just pick the lowest priced one, bad things can happen.

>>2881759
Maybe, some or most of the posts I looked at seemed to also be from Asia/SEA. The worst thing I've found so far in regard to listings is that some are quite sneaky about utilities only listing them in the "rules and guidelines" link. Guessing I will eventually have a bad time but hey that's happened at hotels in the past.

Maybe I am overthinking it, for me a room is to shit, shower, and shave. So as long as I have a room with a door and decent bed, I'm not really too picky about the fact I don't have a thing of coffee or water bottles restocked; or the room only has a standing shower and shitter is down the hall, etc etc.

>>2881760
if the airbnb host has a weird long list of unusual rules or restrictions - avoid that listing

>for me a room is to shit, shower, and shave
untrue, if there's lots of noise you won't have a good time
if the lights or toilet are broken, you won't have a good time
etc.
do your diligence, if it looks sketchy, don't do it

>>2881763
>untrue, if there's lots of noise you won't have a good time
Yeah, but that's kind of hard to set as a baseline metric, what's "quiet" to me is maybe noisy as shit to others. My standards are as long as it's not a 10-dollar hostel noise level, I'm pretty much fine.

> weird long list of unusual rules or restrictions
Guess I haven't seen any, most are the basic like turn off lights/ac when out, no loud sounds from 10pm-7am, please take out the trash every few days, etc etc. Most the normal things you would do at home minus no unregistered guests.

>do your diligence, if it looks sketchy, don't do it
Sure but you do that with any booking. Maybe because I've only done Korea and now doing Taiwan for the first time, I am not as versed as others but most all places I see look fine? I mean maybe some of these horror stories really come from the shacks in Thailand or something but for the 400-500/mo(minus tax) price range I look at in Asia most seem fine.

>>2881764
>Yeah, but that's kind of hard to set as a baseline metric, what's "quiet" to me is maybe noisy as shit to others.
if your accommodation is near a major highway you are gonna have noise, you can't quite always see where it is before booking but if its right in a downtown or near a major road there will be noise
and if you are in an apartment with people above and below you there might be noise vs a standalone unit, things like that

>>2881765
Sure, but that's true for a lot of places, In Kyoto and Osaka both had to hear cars and bikes rev. Tokyo heard the trains given where I was. Was annoying the first night, forgot about it the second night. Guess you just need to take into account if you're a light sleeper or not. I can fall asleep in an airplane, bus, airport, etc without much issue. If I do have issues a bottle of melatonin solves it. I think that's true for any kind of booking regardless the platform.

>>2881758
You're paying 10x the real price by using that platform but you do you

>>2881758
Airbnb and VRBO etc are hit and miss. I've stayed in some great places and also in some dumps. Do your research.

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>>2876795
>My mate and I got a penthouse in Cebu city. They 100% photoshop and use wide angle lenses for the listings but that's to be expected. Still fairly nice until the aircons started leaking pretty quickly because I imagine not installing a tundish and having major water pooling is a downstairs neighbour problem - especially when you are top floor.

We could operate the aircon for max half an hour at a time before water started pooling on the floor. I slept reasonably okay considering (I was pass out drunk most nights).

No review mentioned this. It was 4.7 stars. View was good though.

I've used Airbnb extensively both as a host and a traveler around Europe for 10 years (2012-22). I've had a couple horror guests and stayed in a couple shady places but nothing that would put me off the platform for good. Customer support got a LOT worse over the years though. One time they straight up charged an American guest for some money they owed me after their stay...took 5 days. Now it would be impossible

>>2881758
most companies that stay in business are not constant horror stories.
its rare for there to be real horror stories that are not just bad luck and people overreacting or squabbling over a few bucks.
people resent paying off someone's inestment mortgage which i get tho

one thing to keep in mind while everyone oversells the size of the place in their pictures, i think italians are very great at making a tiny shitty apartment look normal size.

>>2881846
i had a host who locked the fridge and freezer and made me pre-select which kitchen utensils I could borrow
she was very mentally ill it was a room in a house so I tried to interact as little as possible and got out first thing waking up in the morning

remind me not to book with black hosts + she asked me to agree to rules before confirming my booking - that should have been a red flag + her listing had too many rules
it was a very low price, I shouldn't have taken it

>>2881783
>10x
maybe 2x or 3x in extreme retard cases, but usually you're paying 1.0-1.25x for airbnb overhead. Unless this is one of those "heh chump doesn't know my ultra secret method of where to find cheap deals in Thailand, can't post how btw ya know gotta save the prices from the normies" style bullshit.

>>2881813
>PH
>Cebu city of all places too
Opinion discarded, PH is like a blackhole now with hotels and airbnb/vrbo bookings. Every random ass chinese or korean post covid gobbled up shitholes, fixed up one or two places then used that as the stock photos.

>>2881846
I feel it's mostly this, it's similar to people who book a budget airline then complain the service isn't world class and think if they scream loud enough they will get a gimme. I also think there is *some* level of gatekeeping done to try and make others not use it so prices don't surge, not like that works lol

>>2881853
suck a dick retard

>>2881758
I think the "horror" stories are mostly exaggerated or as you say people getting sorted but to be able to enjoy AirBNB you really do need to value the tradeoff of losing privacy and deference in exchange for snooty rulemakers at a lower price. Personally in Asia where hotel rooms are already very cheap I don't think the tradeoff makes any sense so I always stay in hotels, but I can see how in America or Europe it might be fine

I've had mostly great experiences with it. There are guidelines to follow though

1. Never pick the cheapest place, if it's too good to be true is probably is.
2. The rating system is very valuable and one of airbnbs strongest assets. If you pick are place with 40+ reviews and a rating over 4.8 your bound to get exactly what you're paying for.
3. If you have concerns about your booking or something doesn't feel right you can kind of just hound the hosts with questions on the app to see if you're getting what you want/need.
4. Always book a place with full cancellation refund

The service is well past its glory days but so long as you book far enough in advance and take the time to feel out your booking it's still perfectly acceptable. I always stay in airbnbs if I'm going to be in one place for more than a week

>>2881758
I've used it heaps in Asia better than hotels or used to be anyway. Now hosts are greedy being more expensive than hotels with none of the service of hotels
Last booking 3 months in advance in Philippines the host declined my booking the day before I flew there, saying I wasn't paying enough money, I replied back saying YOU set the prices you fucking retard
Airbnb didn't care, the host didn't care and I was stranded everything else was fully booked out. Ruined my trip desu senpai and really put me off Airbnb

>>2881855
>Personally in Asia where hotel rooms are already very cheap I don't think the tradeoff makes any sense so I always stay in hotels, but I can see how in America or Europe it might be fine
I don't know
Korea - 500/mo for everything is easy
Tokyo - 850/mo for a guest house in December+NYE
Malaysia(KL) - 450/mo for a full private room
Jakarta - Condo for <400
Thailand(bangkok) ~400 for everything
Taipei - 550/mo

Guess I don't know what standards trv has, I just assume most any airbnb that's a decent value is similar to an Extended Stay in the USA.

>>2881872
>Last booking 3 months in advance in Philippines the host declined my booking the day before I flew there, saying I wasn't paying enough money, I replied back saying YOU set the prices you fucking retard
What? How the hell does this happen? You pay at booking or do that half n half thing.
>Airbnb didn't care, the host didn't care
If the host cancels on you before you get there you get your money back unless you did some BS shit like klarna

This story seems like it's missing a few key points

>>2881875
You pay when you book you fucking retard. Airbnb did refund my money 1 month later how does that help me when I'm traveling the same fucking day to another country
All other Airbnb's were extremely expensive and hotels were booked out or thousands more dollars

>>2881877
You said Airbnb didn't care which usually makes it sound like you didn't get shit back.
>Airbnb did refund my money 1 month later how does that help me when I'm traveling the same fucking day to another country
Credit card then pay off the CC with the refund?

I mean yeah it sucks but hotels do this too

>>2881873
>Korea - 500/mo for everything is easy
This is double the price
>Tokyo - 850/mo for a guest house in December+NYE
Completely laughable
>Malaysia(KL) - 450/mo for a full private room
This is double the real price

Korea is 300, tokyo is 200 for a guest house, kl is 200 for a full private room when you dont use aircucknb

>>2881878
Airbnb are supposed to get you a booking in the same area and instead of that they said oh tough luck buddy
Their customer service has gone to absolute shit for at least 5 years. Plus hotels are now cheaper and you don't have to deal with "super hosts"