my impression is that in America, especially at the lower price point, you can run into some shady characters and room options, and in Europe they might try to ding you for damage you didn't cause, but Asia isn't as neurotic about such things, but that could be a mistaken impression.

But yes, as well, if you just pick the lowest priced one, bad things can happen.

>>2881759
Maybe, some or most of the posts I looked at seemed to also be from Asia/SEA. The worst thing I've found so far in regard to listings is that some are quite sneaky about utilities only listing them in the "rules and guidelines" link. Guessing I will eventually have a bad time but hey that's happened at hotels in the past.

Maybe I am overthinking it, for me a room is to shit, shower, and shave. So as long as I have a room with a door and decent bed, I'm not really too picky about the fact I don't have a thing of coffee or water bottles restocked; or the room only has a standing shower and shitter is down the hall, etc etc.

>>2881760
if the airbnb host has a weird long list of unusual rules or restrictions - avoid that listing

>for me a room is to shit, shower, and shave
untrue, if there's lots of noise you won't have a good time
if the lights or toilet are broken, you won't have a good time
etc.
do your diligence, if it looks sketchy, don't do it

>>2881763
>untrue, if there's lots of noise you won't have a good time
Yeah, but that's kind of hard to set as a baseline metric, what's "quiet" to me is maybe noisy as shit to others. My standards are as long as it's not a 10-dollar hostel noise level, I'm pretty much fine.

> weird long list of unusual rules or restrictions
Guess I haven't seen any, most are the basic like turn off lights/ac when out, no loud sounds from 10pm-7am, please take out the trash every few days, etc etc. Most the normal things you would do at home minus no unregistered guests.

>do your diligence, if it looks sketchy, don't do it
Sure but you do that with any booking. Maybe because I've only done Korea and now doing Taiwan for the first time, I am not as versed as others but most all places I see look fine? I mean maybe some of these horror stories really come from the shacks in Thailand or something but for the 400-500/mo(minus tax) price range I look at in Asia most seem fine.

>>2881764
>Yeah, but that's kind of hard to set as a baseline metric, what's "quiet" to me is maybe noisy as shit to others.
if your accommodation is near a major highway you are gonna have noise, you can't quite always see where it is before booking but if its right in a downtown or near a major road there will be noise
and if you are in an apartment with people above and below you there might be noise vs a standalone unit, things like that

>>2881765
Sure, but that's true for a lot of places, In Kyoto and Osaka both had to hear cars and bikes rev. Tokyo heard the trains given where I was. Was annoying the first night, forgot about it the second night. Guess you just need to take into account if you're a light sleeper or not. I can fall asleep in an airplane, bus, airport, etc without much issue. If I do have issues a bottle of melatonin solves it. I think that's true for any kind of booking regardless the platform.

>>2881758
You're paying 10x the real price by using that platform but you do you

>>2881758
Airbnb and VRBO etc are hit and miss. I've stayed in some great places and also in some dumps. Do your research.

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>>2876795
>My mate and I got a penthouse in Cebu city. They 100% photoshop and use wide angle lenses for the listings but that's to be expected. Still fairly nice until the aircons started leaking pretty quickly because I imagine not installing a tundish and having major water pooling is a downstairs neighbour problem - especially when you are top floor.

We could operate the aircon for max half an hour at a time before water started pooling on the floor. I slept reasonably okay considering (I was pass out drunk most nights).

No review mentioned this. It was 4.7 stars. View was good though.

I've used Airbnb extensively both as a host and a traveler around Europe for 10 years (2012-22). I've had a couple horror guests and stayed in a couple shady places but nothing that would put me off the platform for good. Customer support got a LOT worse over the years though. One time they straight up charged an American guest for some money they owed me after their stay...took 5 days. Now it would be impossible

>>2881758
most companies that stay in business are not constant horror stories.
its rare for there to be real horror stories that are not just bad luck and people overreacting or squabbling over a few bucks.
people resent paying off someone's inestment mortgage which i get tho

one thing to keep in mind while everyone oversells the size of the place in their pictures, i think italians are very great at making a tiny shitty apartment look normal size.

>>2881846
i had a host who locked the fridge and freezer and made me pre-select which kitchen utensils I could borrow
she was very mentally ill it was a room in a house so I tried to interact as little as possible and got out first thing waking up in the morning

remind me not to book with black hosts + she asked me to agree to rules before confirming my booking - that should have been a red flag + her listing had too many rules
it was a very low price, I shouldn't have taken it

>>2881783
>10x
maybe 2x or 3x in extreme retard cases, but usually you're paying 1.0-1.25x for airbnb overhead. Unless this is one of those "heh chump doesn't know my ultra secret method of where to find cheap deals in Thailand, can't post how btw ya know gotta save the prices from the normies" style bullshit.

>>2881813
>PH
>Cebu city of all places too
Opinion discarded, PH is like a blackhole now with hotels and airbnb/vrbo bookings. Every random ass chinese or korean post covid gobbled up shitholes, fixed up one or two places then used that as the stock photos.

>>2881846
I feel it's mostly this, it's similar to people who book a budget airline then complain the service isn't world class and think if they scream loud enough they will get a gimme. I also think there is *some* level of gatekeeping done to try and make others not use it so prices don't surge, not like that works lol

>>2881853
suck a dick retard

>>2881758
I think the "horror" stories are mostly exaggerated or as you say people getting sorted but to be able to enjoy AirBNB you really do need to value the tradeoff of losing privacy and deference in exchange for snooty rulemakers at a lower price. Personally in Asia where hotel rooms are already very cheap I don't think the tradeoff makes any sense so I always stay in hotels, but I can see how in America or Europe it might be fine

I've had mostly great experiences with it. There are guidelines to follow though

1. Never pick the cheapest place, if it's too good to be true is probably is.
2. The rating system is very valuable and one of airbnbs strongest assets. If you pick are place with 40+ reviews and a rating over 4.8 your bound to get exactly what you're paying for.
3. If you have concerns about your booking or something doesn't feel right you can kind of just hound the hosts with questions on the app to see if you're getting what you want/need.
4. Always book a place with full cancellation refund

The service is well past its glory days but so long as you book far enough in advance and take the time to feel out your booking it's still perfectly acceptable. I always stay in airbnbs if I'm going to be in one place for more than a week

>>2881758
I've used it heaps in Asia better than hotels or used to be anyway. Now hosts are greedy being more expensive than hotels with none of the service of hotels
Last booking 3 months in advance in Philippines the host declined my booking the day before I flew there, saying I wasn't paying enough money, I replied back saying YOU set the prices you fucking retard
Airbnb didn't care, the host didn't care and I was stranded everything else was fully booked out. Ruined my trip desu senpai and really put me off Airbnb

>>2881855
>Personally in Asia where hotel rooms are already very cheap I don't think the tradeoff makes any sense so I always stay in hotels, but I can see how in America or Europe it might be fine
I don't know
Korea - 500/mo for everything is easy
Tokyo - 850/mo for a guest house in December+NYE
Malaysia(KL) - 450/mo for a full private room
Jakarta - Condo for <400
Thailand(bangkok) ~400 for everything
Taipei - 550/mo

Guess I don't know what standards trv has, I just assume most any airbnb that's a decent value is similar to an Extended Stay in the USA.

>>2881872
>Last booking 3 months in advance in Philippines the host declined my booking the day before I flew there, saying I wasn't paying enough money, I replied back saying YOU set the prices you fucking retard
What? How the hell does this happen? You pay at booking or do that half n half thing.
>Airbnb didn't care, the host didn't care
If the host cancels on you before you get there you get your money back unless you did some BS shit like klarna

This story seems like it's missing a few key points

>>2881875
You pay when you book you fucking retard. Airbnb did refund my money 1 month later how does that help me when I'm traveling the same fucking day to another country
All other Airbnb's were extremely expensive and hotels were booked out or thousands more dollars

>>2881877
You said Airbnb didn't care which usually makes it sound like you didn't get shit back.
>Airbnb did refund my money 1 month later how does that help me when I'm traveling the same fucking day to another country
Credit card then pay off the CC with the refund?

I mean yeah it sucks but hotels do this too

>>2881873
>Korea - 500/mo for everything is easy
This is double the price
>Tokyo - 850/mo for a guest house in December+NYE
Completely laughable
>Malaysia(KL) - 450/mo for a full private room
This is double the real price

Korea is 300, tokyo is 200 for a guest house, kl is 200 for a full private room when you dont use aircucknb

>>2881878
Airbnb are supposed to get you a booking in the same area and instead of that they said oh tough luck buddy
Their customer service has gone to absolute shit for at least 5 years. Plus hotels are now cheaper and you don't have to deal with "super hosts"

>>2881881
>Korea is 300, tokyo is 200 for a guest house, kl is 200 for a full private room when you dont use aircucknb
Ah yes through the old trick of "gave them a firm handshake and looked them in the eyes!, can't tell you or show you where I got those prices but if you're a RealTraveler(tm), you'll know!". I always love these retarded gaslight posts

Those prices are completely normal post covid.

>>2881887
>Airbnb are supposed to get you a booking in the same area and instead of that they said oh tough luck buddy
I have never heard airbnb having to do that, at most they might send you some comparable listings at that price and say hey do you want to apply the credit to this. Never heard anything else.

I would have just put a stay on my CC then applied the credit to it, boom done no biggie. Even landing day of for booking you just lower the cost by doing a hotel for 3-4 days, and airbnb after that.

>>2881758
only had good experiences with it, but only used it in philippines. It's also much cheaper than hotels

do you all actually live in the us and just happen to take long ass flights to asia all the time for sex tourism, or is this board much more asian people or something?

>>2881925
I work abroad, there are events like concerts, expos, conventions, festivals and stuff I want to do in Asia. It's easier to just take an airbnb for 2-3 months in. I usually go home in the winter months after NYE, if nothing else just to say hello to family/friends. In the USA you can just do an extended stay for 1 month ~900 in many places or maybe find a good airbnb deal.

Airbnb is kinda nice for month(s) rentals since you can more or less get reviews on the place and more or less get the jist of the fee's and cost. Sure, it costs a bit more than landing and going to find some place or grabbing X random listing on <local equivalent of craigslist> but I don't mind paying the extra 100 for everything to be more or less taken care of + no 'hidden' fees.

>is this board much more asian people or something?
Lots of people go to aisa specifically for the lower cost of living, I've lived in Europe and while it's fine, it's easier to visa hop on 90 days(or whatever) in Asia than dealing with the Schengen hops to eastern europe.

>>2881928
>In the USA you can just do an extended stay for 1 month ~900 in many places
um no maybe in a shared house where you have a room and its in the ghetto of a small very black city
I usually end up paying ~ 140 a night all fees included for 1 bdrm apartments you are NOT getting a month for 900 without making some serious sacrifices.

>>2881930
I've done it in TX plenty of times, you have to use their app/website or call but they do discounts at month rates.

>>2881937
>have to stay in texas for a whole month
wouldn't even if free

>>2881938
LOL that's fair, it's not for everyone. Personally, I'm fine with a 900/mo airbnb or whatever in San antonio after 9ish months abroad. I checked look like extended stays went up from previous years. I'm fine with a 1k/mo place in TX during Jan to mid march. Pretty good temps and food to get. This year I stayed in a shared house(private room) for around 1100/mo around LA older place/house but not bad, just have to deal with LA grabage.

>>2881758
>airbnb
>hear nothing but horror stories from people online
all americans

i'm european and mostly travel in europe
never had any problems with an airbnb
partly due to regulations
like airbnb was forced form the start to only advertised the total price, inclusive of cleaning here
partly because private rentals have a very long "tradition" here and were big before airbnb

personally I avoid airbnb nowadays
but for other reasons
I travel with a family of 5 and most vacation rentals big enough don't advertise on airbnb
no clue why (maybe their cut is too high),
but for most cities / destinations you'll only find small 1bd rentals or >2bd big luxury ones, nothing for families
whereas searching directly or via other booking sites gives you plenty of options

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>>2881952
>like airbnb was forced form the start to only advertised the total price, inclusive of cleaning here
Maybe I am a retard but doesn't it have an option for users to turn that on? I mean it shows you at checkout the whole breakdown.

I was looking at a place just now and it breaks it down, just fine.

>all americans
I could see this, I know a lot of americans just assume to leave places in whatever state they figure and can't do basics like take out the trash every few days or don't know just wipe some basic things down in the bathroom/kitchen. I could see that making the host charge excessive cleaning fees

DARE I say
maybe Asia is cheap for a reason

>>2881954
>Maybe I am a retard but doesn't it have an option for users to turn that on? I mean it shows you at checkout the whole breakdown.
yes they changed that globally

the difference
in the EU it was from the start
and the advertised "per night price",
which you also see on the map, HAS to include all cost here (so Total / #nights)

the checkout itself has always shown the total
people were mainly complaining that the prices when searching were not accurate and you didn't see the total until the last page, which is kinda scammy
and then you're rightfully complaining about high cleaning fees

even though the breakdown doesn't really matter
only if the total price (or price / night) is worth it for you
regardless of the share of cleaning cost

>take out the trash every few days or don't know just wipe some basic things down in the bathroom/kitchen
not that you shouldn't do this
but especially the wiping stuff down is something that the cleaning person will (hopefully) do anyway

>I could see that making the host charge excessive cleaning fees
the problem was / is never about the cleaning fee itself
it's that the fee was not included in the initial price you see and then you get surprised with it
and that you found a nice offer within your budget and suddenly at checkout it's double the price

Worst you’ll probably get is hosts asking you for more money off the site for “electric bills” and other horse shit in Asia. You can report them and get them banned after you leave.

Never used it in Europe. Used it in the US. Some hosts are scum and have a lot of lot of inane rules. Some are nice and easygoing.

I hate that they refuse to cancel their other guests who are only renting a couple of days when you’re trying to book an entire month and they fuck up your plans. I guess they’re scared of getting banned or getting negative reviews or something. Bunch of pussies

>>2882057
lol
>book place in Philippines
>goods through fine get message about check in
>SIRS U NEED CALL ME ON VIBER SIRS
>what why? Airbnb communication works fine
>SIRS VIBER I NEED VIBER TALK NOW IT ABOUT UTILITY BILL AND HOUSR BILL SIRS
>no thanks, the listing is all utilities included, I'll stick to airbnb chat
>I WILL EVICT YOU SIRS YOU WILL NOT ALLOW STAY IF NOT CONTACT ME ON VIBER
>okay well airbnb says always chat through the app
>VIBER IS NEW WAY CONTACT SIRS
>oh really let's get airbnb support into this chat so we can clear this up I've never heard this
>10 minutes later get "sorry sirs I meant for other guest..."
>utilities constantly turn off as I run the AC 24/7 at 68F, do lanudry in the unit, constantly use hot pot for coffee, microwave cook things.
>get messages asking me if I am okay and he notices lots of power wants to ensure I am keeping the AC on only when in the unit and not below 70F, turn it up take a pic send it back
>sirs please let us talk on viber I think you have more people in nuit than allow you will have police soon
>tell him I'll get airbnb customer support here to clear this up
>instantly walks it back
>shows up some Chang mixed pino with buck teeth shows up asks me if I have girl in unit he will know and will be charged and kicked out
>nope only into 2D women, and point to some random anime book I bought for a friend back home
>okay sirs because if you have woman here I will see on security camera down stair
>No, we can call airbnb support right now
>instantly says he believes me and leaves no issue the rest of the month
>about a week to check out call customer support with all the documented shit I got, send a report in, get a full refund asked to leave the premises
>get told yes never deal with housing issues or things outside airbnb and contacting outside of
>see CHANG's listings all disappear can't rate or review him
Rest easy knowing some mixed chinese/pino is blowing his lid off due to his account most likely being shut down

>entire home
>top rated
>self check in

not difficult

>>2881938
>TX le bad
Oh boy anon please do tell where you would stay in the USA on the cheap

>>2881758
>2 months in Taiwan
airbnb is fine in many places but you're going get something shit in Taiwan for the price, it's not worth it there and technically illegal, get on the faceberg groups if you want monthly rentals
t.1 year in Taiwan

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It's not a horror story but it is annoying when you get neurotic hosts who treat you like misbehaving children and you have to make sure to not leave any mess at all for fear of getting a shitty review.

Also, I don't bring people back to my airbnb, but it seems reasonable to bring 1-2 guests. I guess they want prior approval but that's such a strangely restrictive policy compared to hotels where you don't generally need approval for a guest.

>>2882300
appalachia, it ain't that cheap, nothing like what people pay in Asia, but there's actually ya know stuff to do if you know where to look

>>2881758
Airbnb is fine if you're renting someone's guest bedroom in a big city for a night or two when you're going to see a concert, a sports match, to stay the night next to an airport or something. If I ever book an entire accommodation for myself I always using Booking.com or their own site/contact info because those are generally higher quality and won't force you to clean up the place before you leave. Airbnb hasn't had competitive prices for entire accommodations since like 2016 but it's still great for it's original use case (people in high demand touristic areas subletting their spare bedroom for extra cash)

>>2882432
There's definitely some flophouses on airbnb, if you are, like I am, browsing budget listings, just realize if something is on Airbnb, there's a reason i.e. it's not a place someone wants as their primary dwelling. There's a lot of older, barely maintained homes. I've had worse experiences in cities generally - more sketchy hosts.

"real" listings of cabins and apartments tend to have higher prices than airbnb
im not sure what you are finding on booking.com, I guess I'll check it out next time, but generally self-listed dwellings are 200+ a night or 150+ a night for a hotel room with no kitchen airbnb you can usually get a trailer, the apartment above someone's garage, or half a duplex apartment for 130-160 a night and you get a full kitchen and sometimes laundry

>>2882439
nigga what. most countries have 1-200 a month rent

>>2882439
A lot of legit BnBs use Booking for online advertisement and booking and they're often cheaper than Airbnb units because they reflect the actual accommodation prices of wherever you want to visit. I went on a vacation to the Mosel valley with my wife two weeks ago and I paid 280 euro for four days/three nights in a full apartment of a legit BnB using that site. I suppose the best deals on Booking are for rural areas while Airbnb can be better for staying in a big city.

>>2882443
>with my wife
btw I'm heterosexual, unsure if that's pertinent

>mosel valley
ok so maybe its cheaper outside the us, but not in the us

>>2881906
You're the dumbest person ITT

>>2882069
Last trip to ph same fucking bullshit demanding to talk on WhatsApp or whatever rubbish I say no talk on Airbnb only.
Air the rules are you must give deposit via western union remitly whatever right now or you can't stay
Fuck off you retard that's not in the listing
I hate dealing with pignoys more than you can believe. The last time I stayed a month and I ran the air con 24hrs a day for the whole month on the lowest temperature just because the host kept annoying me with messages about the unit and my stay

>>2881906
>s-s-show me
platform cucks are retarded

>>2882467
You're talking to an imbecile who has only read about travelling online and hasn't actually done any

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>>2881758
>book some place in rome
>immediately can tell from the welcome messages dealing with some stupid gen x hysteric woman
>see some box in the room demanding a 50 euro cleaning fee in cash before checkout
>lolno
>leave, lady blows up my messages and demands the cash through airbnb
>some retarded support chat jeet spams my phone number then inbox after i dont pickup all like SAAAAR PLEASE PAY SAAAAR IT WAS IN DESCRIPTION YOU SHOULD PAY
>sigh, look at description, buried at the bottom under paragraphs of GREAT LOCATION bullshit
>still reject the payment, airbnb sides with me, cant charge outside cash fees, eat shit.
>get spammed with more messages with pictures of the room and towels on the ground and some tampon my bitch left somewhere

>book another place in eastern europe year later
>sigh, another hysteric gen x mommy
>shower floods, slip in the bathroom and crash through this tempered glass door completely shattering it
>my bitch has to go to the pharmacy to get some bandages to patch my foot up
>decide not to tell crazy lady, not about to have this bitch spam me freaking out and need to change lodgings in the middle of our weekend
>leave when the stay runs out
>get spammed by the lady accusing me of lying and actually fucking my bitch on the sink or some other schizo story, demands 500$ through airbnb for damages
>still dont pay, cite slip and fall risk L0L
>airbnb sides with me again
Never ever accept payment bros, airbnb just made landlords able to demand money from you so you can pay out before their insurance needs to kick in. Also use paypal instead of credit card cause you can turn off autobill on paypal instead of cancelling your card, in the event that airbnb doesnt side with you
>>2882069
hilarious, BUT id be paranoid about chang entering my apartment and robbing my shit though so id try to leave/refund in this situation. Idc if I get my phone or wallet stolen abroad but idk how ill explain away my work laptop getting stolen in a foreign country

>>2882467
>>2882476
Where are you getting a 200/mo place in Tokyo proper that isn't a cardboard box during December?

>>2882313
I've also been to Taiwan a bunch. It's not illegal outside of Taipei, but they must jump through some legal hoops to register. You can find legal airbnbs in smaller cities and rural areas. However, I'd agree it's usually not worth it. I've only grabbed two airbnbs in my Taiwan travels, and that was because of their location rather than value.

>>2881758
>>contact host and mention a few things about my visit
Like what? What could they possibly care about?

>>2882498
It's funny you're trying to make the host out to be crazy when you're clearly the problem.

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>>2882313
>airbnb is fine in many places but you're going get something shit in Taiwan for the price
OP here, Got a deal 560/mo(after taxes) in Ximen decent sized room+window view, utilities all included, kitchen is shared but not a big issue it's cleaned every day or two by some lady who also cleans the toliet/showers down; though I generally shower at the gym.

Side note: can someone explain to me why /trv/ is so "kek overpaid with airbnb", maybe I don't know but ~15-20/day for a room abroad is completely fine for someone working abroad. Cheaper than any 2 star hotel or hostel that I can find at the very least. I really dread doing the whatsapp/instagram/facebook marketplace style ads because I have virtually 0 idea if it's a scam and what I actually get. I get overpaying sucks but some of these posts make it sound like it's 1000% markup when my look arounds I see I am paying a 10-20% markup depending on the quality/location.

>>2882739
lol yeah go pay the 50 euro cash hidden goy tax paypig

>>2882751
>Got a deal
>560/mo(after taxes) in Ximen
not a deal

Airbnb is fucking horrible and for idiots.
>yeah lemme just arrive in a foreign city with all my luggage in tow and just hope this random person opens the door when I text them
Just stay in a hotel

>>2882779
Airbnb in Vietnam is unironically better than hotels. Only country where I've experienced that though.

>>2882779
Who the fuck meets their Airbnb host? I think over the 9 ish years I’ve met the host once maybe twice. Which was only USA because hotels sold out for the event I wanted to see. Literally always book using self check in where you nfc or PIN code in while abroad. Is this a burger Airbnb issue again?

>>2882763
Depends on how big the room is; if it's sizable, well-lit and well-furnished, with a dehumidifier function on the A/C unit, then that's an OK rate. Taiwan is an affluent country, so you can't expect rooms to be dirt cheap.
>>2882784
If you rent the cheap guestrooms, you are usually staying in an owner-occupied dwelling. Many times they want to meet you in person at check-in, because who would let a random stranger into their house unattended?
>>2882739
Fat Amerimutts are some of the worst tenants in existence. They are always breaking things and leaving a mess worse than any pajeet, then going "whoops not my problem, it was an accident, what is this crazy landlady bitch harassing me for?" That's one of the reason why hotel/room rent is so absurdly high in America, because every landlord is factoring in the risk of some obese retard ruining the place. Slipping and falling in a fucking shower, Jesus Christ how fat and stupid do you have to be to not realize that a tile floor is slippery when wet?

Airbnb does have a profile photo feature, and when the (American) hosts could see that I wasn't a fat retarded ogre, they were very kind and gracious.
>>2882419
How about you just don't be a slob? How fucking difficult is this for you subhumans to do?

>>2882795
I’ve done guest houses and still never met them. Airbnb has vetted me and has my card and contact info it’s similar checking into some aparthotels in Scandinavia these days. Seriously what airbnbs are you all staying in that you meet the host and don’t have automated check in?

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>>2882795
>Depends on how big the room is
Queen(?) or full XL size bed easy enough to have 2 people sleep without being cramped imo
Full control of AC, fast wifi like 150mbps or something, enough room for me to have my luggage out of the closet and still do situps and pushups if I wanted, desk is big enough for me to have my USB C monitor on + laptop and mousepad with room for drink/meal, washer/driers on prem for dirt cheap compared to laundromat, etc. It's quiet as well outside the random Asian man singing at 5AM drunk as hell but by that time I'm calling it a day of work anyways.

>>2882763
560/mo is like 1/5 of my biweekly paycheck anon so to me that's a good deal. I don't get it with /trv/ it's like if you're not living like a roach or NEET off SSI then you're being ripped off and if you spend too little on a place you're a poorfag who isn't living well.

Maybe it's because I push myself to be out of my apartment for at least 4 hours a day, except when maybe recovering from a long night out, so my focus isn't so much on a 1:1 replica of home. I can deal with something not looking like my previous apartment in amenitiesand features as long as I can work, sleep, eat, and stretch. I guess /trv/ has way different standards.

>>2881783
>10x
Why would you just go and lie on an anonymous basket-weaving forum like that, anon?
It ranges from 1.25x to 1.5x, 3x in the most ripoff bookings (most likely some big event in town that jacked up pricing that weekend)
If you want to spend 2 weeks jewmaxxing and emailing a hundred hosts about policies and facilities to save one or two hundred dollars, go ahead. I'll just click book and be done with it.

>>2881763
>if the lights or toilet are broken, you won't have a good time
Call the host most all will move you into another listing they have or refund you partial
If they don't to either of the above get airbnb on the line and inform them basic necessities for booking are not provided (bathroom access is required) and get a refund

Wow, for how much of a board this is that requires scheduling, talking to multiple people to get from place to place, working out delays and issues, and so on; people here really give up at the slightest anthill that is in their path.

>>2881758
I . . . wait . . . what?
>read OP
>holy shit that sounds EXACTLY like me and what I did last September
>has this thread really survived for nine months?
>checks date
>holy shit, this isn't a thread that I started
Friend, I was literally in exactly the same position as you, booked my flight and my AirBnB in late August 2025, and it was cheaper than any hotel I ever stayed in in Taiwan, and the experience was far better than every hotel I ever stayed in in Taiwan.

I went for one of the cheapest places I could find, and it was great. Quiet, centrally located (directly across the street from Taipei Main Station), and spotlessly clean. The only issue was that because of the street traffic, getting to and from the MRT involved a ten minute underground walk through a fucking maze of barely-marked corridors.

If you want central-right-next-to-TMS Taipei for a few nights, I highly recommend this place:
https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/1435238200966478772

If it's unavailable, there are an absolute shitload of similar rooms in the same building. Apparently it was built as "apartments above a shopping mall" but an absolute shitload of people bought them to rent out as AirBnBs.

I will note that the listing says it's for four guests, but there's no way you'll fit more than two people in it comfortably, maybe three if one is a child. It's a single open-plan room with a decorative lattice partition between the couch and the bed, and the partition only covers about a third of the width of the room between the two.

Regular hotels in Taiwan mostly suck. They are noisy, often full of mosquitos, and charge ridiculous amounts of money.

>>2882784
>Who the fuck meets their Airbnb host?
I >>2882821 did, he handed me the keys (actually weird little electronic buttons that had to be held up to the electronic lock).

I guess he only had the one unit in the place so he didn't want to pay the security guards to hand out his keys. There were multiple "virtual hotels" in the building that did hire the guards to deal with key duty. It was the first time I'd seen that business model and it actually sounds pretty good. Only problem is that Taiwan real estate is absolutely ridiculously overpriced, to the point that when I lived there, I was renting my apartment for 1/1000th (monthly) of the price of buying it (not considering taxes or condo association fees, so really much worse than 1/1000th, probably more like 1/1500th or 1/2000th). In the U.S., people consider it a ridiculous (and unprofitable) ratio at 200:1.

>>2882813
>literal shill post

>>2882857
>literal poorfag post
I should mention that I only book places 28+ days or more on Airbnb because that is when discounts are applied, but the point still stands

>>2882868
kinda depresses me that everyone here somehow has months to travel and wastes it all on fucking southeast asia for easy sex and low costs

>>2882869
I've stayed in airbnbs across Europe, the Americas, and Asia. I just happen to be in SE Asia now

>>2882784
It used to be you were literally a guest ij someone's home. Only after it got popular and the investment firms began buying out all the properties, it became more common to just find a code for a lockbox and never see anyone

>>2882868
If you are booking a month+ that's even worse. You can find local accomodation but you're a paypig with skill issue

>>2882869
What did the post say about SEA? Airbnb +28 days gives discounts all over, if anything it's needed in places like Finland or Norway(not sure why you'd do over a month there though).

Besides a lot of us here I would bet are doing either long-term digital nomad or simply have enough to not needing to work a steady job, SEA is GOAT for that. It's not like I can't just fly to Europe, it's just like why would I want to during say winter?

>>2882896
Any time I try to do this or know people who do this it turns out to be more or less the same shit I get, but maybe they saved the equivalent of 25-40USD/mo, wow amazing less than what an hour of my current payrate is. Whoopdee

>>2882908
>Any time I try to do this or know people who do this it turns out to be more or less the same shit I get, but maybe they saved the equivalent of 25-40USD/mo, wow amazing less than what an hour of my current payrate is. Whoopdee
Nooooo broooo, you just need to spend a week or two combing through fb and reddit sublet groups, no they don't have any reviews or anything and I had to feed their cat but I saved $100 on my month long stay!!!

>>2882917
>fb or reddit
retard

>>2882924
>2k monthly
lol no, I appreciate it but that place is way too luxurious for me I would just feel like I am pissing away money staying there. Even the rooms at 800-900 feel like far to much for a single person IMO.

>check into airbnb
>flush toilet
>immediately breaks and won't refill with water after flushing
>message host
>uhhh jiggle the handle
>that didn't work
>ok ill stop by in 2 hours
sigh, gonna be a long weekend

>>2883487
If you need to flush it before it's fixed, you can just take the top off the tank and use a cup or a saucepan or whatever to get water out of the sink and pour it into the tank.

If you have one of those showerhead-on-a-hose thing and it's in reach of the toilet, it's even easier.

Note, I'm not saying this doesn't need to be fixed and you're some sort of autist for wanting a normally functioning toilet, I'm just saying it's not a disaster.

>>2883732
they have a shower with a low floor entrance
turn on shower
start peeing into drain
give it a few seconds
turn off shower
there's also a bathroom across the hall but I'm sore as fuck from hiking
they are coming to repair it in an hour
I overheard them commenting about how I could flush with a bucket but nah
shower pee it is, poop in the other toilet

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Not sure if this issue exists on vrbo, but one thing that annoys me about airbnb listings is that a lot of them fail to mention electricity costs up till you are about to check in. Not sure if this is specific to SEA or what
>see listing PM host ask if all utilities are included in the price
>get some generic AI response about thanks for asking
>ask again if utilities like electricity are included because it's not stated in the listing
>oh sorry sirs no electricity not include it is 2x normal city rate

>>2883849
>electricity not included
wat

The place I stayed in Taiwan >>2882821 didn't even attempt to nickel-and-dime me that way. The only thing the host asked me to do was, since I was staying very late on the checkout date, to leave an extra half-day's rate on the table. I had no problem with that.

Either your experience is fucking weird or I had the nicest least-scammy AirBnB host ever.

>>2884453
Quite a few places in Thailand, VIetnam, Cambodia, Philippines want you to pay for electricity. Less common in TW, SK, Japan, etc

>>2884453
in my (us only) experience it's sort of random
sometimes you get normal hosts who are polite, sometimes you get weirdos who plaster little notes around the dwelling with mini-rules or add extra rules after you book or annoying cleaning tasks at the end or are unwilling to make adjustments or are trying to get extra money out of you or spam long messages etc

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>>2882763
Ximen is downtown Taipei, how is 560/mo not a deal? I'm always confused with how /trv/ gauges things when it comes to money.

Where are you staying in main cities where you get a hotel that isn't some capsule bunkbed style shit for under 600/mo? inb4 "well you show up and apartment hunt in person and have a secret can't show you" style larp.

>>2883487
bro that's a 2 second fix, you just take off the top, fix the chain that seals the plug for the tank to refill and go about your day. That shit happens in hotels as well.

>>2882917
I looked down the rabbit hole of trying to find these things out, nearly every single "secret cheap listing" turns out to be some trash place at or below the same level. Also not stated is you need to negotiate or deal with price gouged utilities or random other "fees" like insurance. It reminds me of that one anon a while back in the /THG/ who was ecstatic about their 99/mo place that was basically some shed attached to a hostel.

>>2882924
If you're not at least using FB marketplace to validate the listing is real, GG you're taking your chances and increasing the level of being scammed 100x. I get Airbnb has a price markup but at least Airbnb will cover for you if you give reasonable responses.

Basically just:
1. Take photo or video of place you checked into ASAP
2. Tell host you checked in
3. Take photo or video of check out
Bam, now any "hidden" fee's or possible scams to dispute shit is gone. ABNB often will side with you if you have photos, I do the same shit in the USA when they require a security deposit and I am dealing with a GOOD MORNING SIRS at the front desk.

>>2881881
>Korea is 300, tokyo is 200 for a guest house, kl is 200 for a full private room
What kind of roach-infested fleabag places are you staying in? How far from public transit stops, and how far from the city center? I'm pretty familiar with the Tokyo rental market and while I believe you that it's possible to rent a place for $200 a month, I have a *very* hard time believing it's in any way desirable. $200/mo in Tokyo is quite literally "well at least I'm not sleeping on the streets" level

>>2885980
The only ones I can think of are those grey listings where some Chinese guy bought out a 4BR apartment or home, shoved as many bunk beds in each room as possible meaning 6-8 persons per room, with the cheapest 2x4 style beds and temu 1-2 inch futon bedding; also you're closer to Edogawa than tokyo. Even those got massively wiped out with the Airbnb rules Japan set up.

Korea is kinda doable for 300, I've stayed in a few but they were well outside Seoul in Guri and you had a shared bathroom only heat in winter was an electric blanket.

KL? I won't trust a 200/mo lmao spend at least 300 to get something that doesn't have the rats coming in the bedroom, fuck man 350-400 will get you a full condo with a pool and gym on the outskirts

>>2882784
>Who the fuck meets their Airbnb host?
It's just random, I'd say I meet them like 25% of the time if I don't specifically verify that it's self check-in. I don't care either way unless I plan to break some stupid rules and don't want to meet them. Sometimes it's a milf or hot helper girl

>entire thread is retards jacking each other off for being retarded

>>2885990
I had a host who made it seem like you had to meet them and then I messaged them saying I would be there in 2 hours and I guess they weren't home (it was an apartment attached to their home sorta) and they said oh would you be ok checking in yourself (of course)
but like shit get a schlage push button digital lock like everyone else fuck you to the people who make you unlock a key then use the door wasteful extra step and have to mind the location of a physical key NO need for that in 2026 and the locks with touch interfaces are generally annoying too

I will say if its one of those situations where its an apartment above their garage, you are more likely to have to meet them, and if its older boomers, more likely to have to meet them.

One time the guy came over and was just like "yup built this cabin myself" which was neat cuz it was a a well built wooden cabin.

>>2886006
Yeah so true king, there really should be more arguing of useless info regarding hookers. /s

>>2882461
Probably my biggest gripe and I always report that shit.
>book Airbnb in PH(it's always this country for some reason)
>absolutely normal convo up to time to stay
>day of checking in
>SIRS PLEASE CALL ME ON $CHINK_APP SO I CAN REGISTER U IN CONDO
>uhh why not just use the app to tell me where to go
>SIRS VERY EXPENSIVE TO CALL LONG DISTANCE NUMBER PLEASE DOWNLOAD INSTALL APP
>I get free long distance I can just call you, that should work fine right? It would charge me for the call.
>NO SIR WE NEED U ON APP
>okay airbnb says not to do this on their ToS, let's just contact their support to ...
>NOOO SIRS I CALL U OKAY!
>always some chinese woman or half breed on the other end

Is there some BS I am missing here? I figure it's just some scam way for them to find "issues" with the stay or just spam a bunch of referral links my wat for a huge 50p.

I've also used Airbnb: the first time was during a week-long trip to France with GF.
We only spoke to the owner via text and once on the phone for checkout. During that week, she was polite and just wanted to make sure the apartment was okay and we didn't have any problems.
Here in the US, I've only booked once because we usually stay in motels: the apartment looked like it was from the '80s, it had carpet, and the shower had some issues.
But the bed was comfortable and clean, and we only stayed one night.

>>2885976
>Ximen is downtown Taipei,
There's no real "downtown" in Taipei because it's one of those Asian cities with no real city center, but even if there were one, Ximen is kind of the opposite of "downtown Taipei". Taipei 101 is the highest-end shopping district, and right next to it is the Taipei WTC which is the business center. Ximen is miles further west ("Xi" means "west" and "men" is "gate", it's the west entrance to the old Festung Taibei). You can literally look at one of the old remnants of the fortifications at whatever the next stop on the MRT is, where the NIA building is.

>>2886218
How the fuck are you travelling internationally and not using WhatsApp? Everyone outside the US uses it. I am always talking to foreigners before I go to a given destination, so it's a non-issue.

>>2886770
>angry flip
>>2886215
useless info is better than harmful disinfo

>>2886777
Nah I am a perplexed white American. WhatsApp is the messaging app of choice among thirdies.

>>2886770
>>2886812
Because I want a third party to help assure my transactions, whatsapp basically has no such security especially when AirBNB specifically tells you to never do transactions outside the app. Why would I bother with that app?

Booking.com? Had people ask me or whatsapp/viber/grab to pay vs the app, just tell them to fuck off. Same with Airbnb. For all I know they will get a whatsapp transaction for "thing" then double down on the day I check out with some SIRS ACTUALLY U NOT PAY! Airbnb/booking/hotels.com won't take note of any screenshots of whatsapp transfers done off their platform. Also, those booking sites like airbnb have payment processing in the app where all goes to the host AFAIK for utilities, damages, extra in house services etc. I actually had to pay ~3000 bhat for my extended stay in BKK the other month, not a big issue just tapped yes to the charge and it went through fully documented.

My CC protects me from things, no I don't care that they take a 1-3% transaction fee and now the money is on the books for your tax season, don't list on hotel or airbnb style sites if you don't want to play by the rules.

Whatsapp might be the messaging service for thirdies I just don't care to use it as a payment processor for me lodging services.

>>2886754
>erm achtuktually
Dude the main train station to get all over Taipei is there, it's where most things touristy and people go for events of the city, and it's what stays open late barring some specific night markets to the east. If you went on about how Ximen is not close to the downtown area, to people IRL they would LOL at you.