>>2881768
I had a good time there. Stayed in the Centro Histórico but ended up in Roma and Condesa a few times for the bars and cafes. Food was great throughout the city. Never felt unsafe, even wandering about at 2am taking random photos with an expensive SLR.

When exactly? The World Cup is happening in about two months, I think, and the federal government is rushing like hell to upgrade the airport and a bunch of other things. A lot of locals aren’t too happy about the whole situation, and it could turn into a catastrophe.

Anyway, Condesa is cool, Coyoacán is the real deal, Polanco is overrated, and if you’re feeling spicy, go to Tepito on a Sunday.

>>2881828
>go to Tepito

LMAO do not listen to this bitch nigga, OP. Tepito is extremely dangerous.

>>2881768
>What are the people like there?
they hate gringos

>>2881882
There are so many gringos living in Roma and Condesa.

>>2881882
so they're just like the mexicans living in the states?

>>2881916
it's worse down there,

it's extremely safe. it is 10x safer than most american big cities. family and friends were absolutely horrified when we told them were we going, meanwhile I'm from suburban usa and was mugged at a gas station in broad daylight loll. definitely stay in roma or condesa or maybe coyocan. centro/zocalo is a bit too touristy. me and my gf accidentally wandered through tepito during the day and we are the whitest gringos imaginable with zero spanish and it was ok too.

the people in generally definitely do not fuck with americans. went there a couple of years ago but it seems to have been worse now, the anti gringo riots were recently. noticed a lot of euro tourists. english skills are non existent, we had 1 english interaction over a week. even university students appear to speak zero english. There's a wide mix of people and you will see super educated mexican elites and very poor central american migrants in the same areas.

unfortunately the air pollution still sucks and it still feels like youre in the 2nd world. saw a quite a bit of open sewage and I did get mild food poisoning even though we were decently careful. hot water was hit/miss. if the pollution was better it'd be a toptier city in the Americas, and probably still is.

also unfortunately 95% of women there were extremely busted and obese. houston had more attractive women by a long shot lol

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>>2881882
specifically, in Roma - Condesa most restaurants, cafés, bars and clubs are full of subservient people to any european tourists. the rest of businesses are full of people forced to be subservient to tourists because owners love euro/dollar tips, love to discriminate their own people, or love to pretend they have an exclusive joint.
I highly doubt there are any locals left in Roma - Condesa. There seems to be an airbnb clique of tenants who stopped anti-gentrification laws last year, and there are tons of new developments throughout the city, avoiding environmental regulations, swallowing mid-class boroughs and turning them into costly, tourist-palatable places.
Regardless of the anti-gringo feelings from last year, you can club in the area (or visit Zona Rosa if you're gay), and stumble upon lots of office wageslaves who love to pretend they have money (all credit cards maxed out). Smile at any drunk mexican, and they will immediately try to marry you.

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>>2881932
if you're planning on staying:
>there are some small tremors that may scare you if you're not from an earthquake-prone place
besides the pacific coast tremors that occur 2-10 times a year, and are perceptible in the capital, there are tiny, very localized tremors at least 3 times a year in several places in the city
>only venture to the less tourist-friendly places if you know what you're doing
if you haven't been to other third-world places, and/or can't quickly realize when you're being scammed, keep to yourself and to the places you know. same applies to food: only eat in places you trust. street food isn't unhygienic, but microbes will always vary between countries, and even cities.
>subway is totally unreliable, aerial transit system sucks, taxis are barely regulated
pickpocketing is too common in almost all the subway system, and the women-only wagons are excessively prone to fights. the new cablebus system may come to a halt right in the middle between two stations. if you're visiting museums near the Chapultepec forest, the bus service (Metrobus line 4) has AC and is quite fast. for any other travelling, you should use Uber. fuck local taxis.
>always check the weather report
unfortunately the city is built over a dry lake, so it relies heavily on strong air currents to stay habitable. If you see there's no strong air forecast (particularly during the summer), the whole city will heat up before noon, and air pollution may provoke coughing. on the other hand, if there's even a slight chance of heavy rain, it'd be wiser to just stay inside, since flash storms can quickly flood half a borough.

>>2881863
>>2881931

Tepito stopped being “dangerous” years ago, so much that people even call it Reforma Norte now. If you walk in there acting like a clueless, scared gringo clutching your wallet, you’re basically asking for someone to size you up and give you a reality check.

I’ve been through there plenty of times, drinking on the street, eating tacos, just hanging out. You blend in fine as long as you’re not acting like a total dumb-ass.

Places like Ecatepec or Iztapalapa are a different story though.

>>2881768
are there any good arcades in mexico city?

>>2881768
Im 4 days away from traveling to Mexico city for the Miku concert, does anyone have requests or want me to look into. If you’re in United States, I can’t send mail to you guys for obvious reasons.

>>2881768
>How’s the food?
it's one of the few cities in latam where you can get a decent selection of world cuisine. local food is also delicious but they need to learn to use squeeze bottles

Don’t give a single cent to this cartel country.

>>2882047
Don’t give a single cent to Corporate America - Every Canadian

>>2881768
The first day I stepped in human shit on the sidewalk.
The third day I got food poisoning and got yelled at by a bum when I didn't give him any cash
The fifth day I was choked unconscious and robbed by going into my pockets when I was on the ground. My only saving grace was they missed my passport.

>>2882215
Should have taken the India pill
I never saw human shit on the sidewalk because people shit in the fields.

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>>2881768
I went to a bar and ordered in Spanish and they laughed at me

>>2882267
i bet you were like mmm, yo quisiera una cerveza por favor

>>2882267
Let me guess, you learn from Cuba version of Spanish. Mexico version is closer to Spain but rejects proper words, while Cuba is IDK how to describe it but as if they recreated it from English and Spanish at the same time.

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Made it to Mexico city guys, here’s current tourist problems.
1) Trains do not mark where you go, you may end up on the wrong side.
2) There is no machine to buy MXcard travel. It has to be purchased by the counter.
3) Lots of police, rumor confirmed.
4) Still under construction in both trains and national icon tourist attraction.
5) There’s less shopping food store, so even if you brought a room with refrigerator and kitchen, the store would not have food to let you cook.

Mexico City is way less advance than i thought. It’s not close to Guadalajara tourism where you can buy things and play around. Mexico City is more closer to commercial New York where you lose the human touch.

Would I recommend coming here? No. I’m here because Miku Hatsune concert wasn’t in Guadalajara. Any requests or answers im here for the next 24 hours.

>>2882963
What rhythm games do you play? What do you look like? Are you an autist? What's your favorite Miku song? Are the women ugly?

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>>2882963
CDMX is a big city. Explore more of it before jumping to conclusions.

>>2882963
What is Guadalajara like?

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>>2882987
No I don’t want to use their train system anymore. I already visited the holy Virgin Mary and it was also commercialized. Saw Angel of independence, the Zócalo memorial flag was first visited since it was easy hence the post. Yet no food store, no farmers market section, no Walmart near by. There is something wrong about Walmart not being next to a train station.

>>2883013
It’s easier to get around, you could walk from one street from Zona Industrial and be at Mezquitan in within 24 hours. Mexico City, no that’s impossible just as New York you will reach a stopping point.

Oh nearly forgot about how simple it’s to move on the Guadalajara train. There’s no people trying to sell you stuff and you can ignore them as you pass by when they do set up for events. Except for 1 and 2, you get escalators. There is in Mexico City but that’s like inside popular city limits. I had to go up and down the stairs because no one thought to just make it simple stupid. You’ll hate Mexico City train layouts for entering and exiting vs Guadalajara just have you choose between a park or street.

I don’t know what to buy in Mexico City to be honest. In Guadalajara, there’s always something in certain areas that host events. There’s currently giant balls for tourists to find each within a park for fun. Mexico City, i found no fun or even FIFA related activities. You think they would at least have a countdown like in Guadalajara but no, none. Just realize there’s no small theme park, I didn’t think of this until now. Just googling it found certain themes outside the train tracks and bus. What kind of logic is that, nothing fun for the kids unless you want the same “safety” parks like in Guadalajara Zapopan.

Also, no malls, like American style malls that you walk into and see high quality items, a food section, AC that kinda cools you, fun stuff for kids and movie theater. That kinda mall, zero in Mexico City.

So, ya kinda don’t like it here…

>>2883108
you're scum. subhuman scum.

>>2883149
All i wanted was my Miku concert, not my fault for the government to remodel the entire stages of all train locations. I don’t believe they will be done within FIFA tournaments. Airport isn’t even done, taxis had to share a two line road while the real location for them is not ready. I just arrived from train to realize they are hiding their train travel behind taxis. Again no signs pointing to train, Google/Apple maps incorrect take you to the outside dangerous location of the train stop instead of the one actually connecting it.

A just hope after so much complaining and getting mocked. They will fix things.

>>2882963
Any McDonalds in the area?

>>2883218
There is in major landmarks, otherwise no and both Google and Apple have outdated maps that do not have them. I once ask where the McDonalds, they been working there for years with reviews in the 5+ years that they never saw a mcdonalds in the area until the manager overheard us and told it was a mcdonalds that couldn’t keep pay. Yes this was a major landmark near here, problem was that pre-google maps from 5+ years old had moved and that location was not on the map until someone updated it and now the manger is waiting for this version to update to the current one before the new one disappears again due to low sales.

>>2883108
I think it's solely your perspective based on your experience, tastes, and objectives. If I were to go to Mexico City, the first thing I would try to do is visit as many museums as possible, since they're everywhere, and explore the different neighborhoods, each with its own unique character. I would never worry about finding a shopping mall or a Walmart outside a station, or a store with entertainment elements, even though I know that most of the largest shopping malls in Mexico are in Mexico City.
In my experience, while the Guadalajara metro is newer and less crowded, it actually has less coverage of the areas I'm interested in visiting, especially the western part of Guadalajara, which has several shopping malls and interesting parks, whereas in Mexico City, all the important areas are covered.

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>>2883108
>no malls, like American style malls
there are a ton of them. the one in santa fe even has an ice-skating rink inside it and shops selling dry-aged steaks. you just didn't get around.

>>2883218
do yourself a favor and learn about the tortas

>>2883289
I did a summer trip with a family homestay to Mexico when I was 15. One weekend they took me to I think Leon (we were in Salamanca, Guanajuato), to have tortas ahogadas and honestly the traveling around and eating street food was the best part, esp. the local tacos al pastor, but on the way back, the kids were fighting in the backseat, and I told one of them to stop hitting me, and like within 2-3 days I got kicked out and made to move in with the family of the only other male in the program (mostly female). The new family was a lot richer so this was fine. And it was only for maybe a week and a half. But it sure was awkward. They had little kids (5-7) and I was 15 and wanted to socialize with older kids and I was pretty mad they expected me to babysit their kids and kinda ignored them.

>>2883257
>museums
As a native to Mexico, that’s kinda lame. Sure learning can be fun but we were taught and celebrate them. So not that interesting to many of us. I only said mall and Walmart because that’s how you can find one in Guadalajara.

Western part is Zapopan, that’s closest to American style with car being the only way to travel, you can use bus but no where is it built for public transit. Everyone knows Zapopan wants to become USA style as their government is corrupted as the USA.

>>2883288
The one that’s super out of the city, no way! I looked online and found none, i don’t count the building commercials because that doesn’t fit the theme of a mall. As i said I couldn’t find food to cook. Ya there’s very small 7/11 or circleK but no actual food. When time was 6pm they were not open. No window hole to speak your items to grab them or didi to deliver because all was closed. Not even McDonalds until 8am which at that point i would buy from the hotel breakfast.

I heard so many stories about it being great but lacks very basic stuff. The whole place is just commercial entity with store on every corner.

>>2883322
The morning, 6am. Dang autocorrect.

>>2883322
try liverpool. they have elaborate food courts they also typically anchor a mall

>>2883451
Oh now i found one, yes but it’s outside the tourist area and i just missed it. Starting at the center might just be the worst starting point. Yet I still believe they need to improve the center a little for travelers with inexperienced and pick the same general idea.

>>2883496
Why not just go where people say they have a good time? I don't think you need the whole city to be good if you're just visiting.

>>2883496
Roma Norte I visited briefly, not really a Mexico culture city. Just another commercial land. Couldn’t find anything related to Mexico food, 90% American restaurants or Asia. There wasn’t anything fun either, no tech, no games, no music. Just exist as tourists to go through for Angel of Independence.

>>2883474
>Starting at the center might just be the worst starting point
yeah, it's not really where you want to be except to see the important sites there (museum, cathedral, zocalo). there is a big bakery there i think that's well known

>>2883496
you should leave their country immediately

An unpaid worker got offended at my relevant and informative post, and deleted it, so I've pasted it below censored.

This city fucking sucks.

- It's not cheap. Expect to make american prices. So, what's the fucking point? Just go to spain.
- "Denizens" are combative and scammy at every turn.
- When you're normie friend says they had a good time in cdmx, they're talking about the ~5 mile radius around Roma Norte. The vast majority of CDMX is dangerous and you WILL get robbed if you look or talk like a non "denizen".

>>2883498
It's not even a "why not" it's that you CANNOT leave the 5 mile radius around Roma Norte if you are not a "denizen". I was plowing a local girl there and was given this intel. She thoroughly warned me against leaving the gringo bubble and said she'd never take any foreigner friends outside of it.

Imagine if NYC was so dangerous, non-Americans could not leave Manhatten.

>>2883500
agree with you completely. It was comical seeing so many "denizens" attempt asian food. It wasn't bad though, just not the real thing. The chinese in the US do these imitation asian cuisines much better I have to say.

>>2883524
Done

>>2883586
this place is full of seething browncels

>>2883586
A 5 mile radius is quite large, you don't even have time to explore those 5 miles. 10 miles is the distance from the Alameda Kiosco Morisco to the Museum of Contemporary Art at UNAM, a distance equivalent to that from Harlem to Wall Street. Does that seem small to you? All those 10 miles in Mexico City are commercial and tourist areas.

you know there's other parts of mexico that are a lot safer than mxdx

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>>2883601
I heard that Yucatan and Campeche are nice.

>>2883599
It could be small or large depending on your trip length. For a weekend, or 5 day week, yeah no problem. But like I said before, why not just go to spain?

CDMX does not lead any "niche" or offer any unique cultural cache. At the end of the day, it's an overpriced dumpy city with combative people. I just don't get it. Even if you stay in the gringo containment zone (which you better) you feel like you're in a propped-up outpost.

>>2883605
guanajuato is a conservative mining state and has good food and is "real mexico" san miguel de allende is touristy but nice

>>2883638
I honestly don't know what you were expecting from Mexico City when you visited. One strong "niche" I noticed was everything related to pre-columbian cultures, literally in the middle of the city and on its outskirts, there are several ruins still with sculptures and paintings, in addition to the enormous museums and architecture related to them. I had the opportunity to visit Teotihuacan, Cuicuilco, Tlatelolco, and Templo Mayor, as well as the Museum of Anthropology, and I think that alone is reason enough to visit the city.
I also didn't find it expensive, the prices for most things are normal or considerably lower than one would expect.
The city also serves as a springboard to other places like Puebla, Taxco, Queretaro or Oaxaca, it's very close to several prominent places in Mexico, which is why I also think Mexico City works excellently for a few days and you don't need more than a 5 mile radius to enjoy it.

>>2883645
You are talking about satellite sites and cities, I am talking about CDMX. But even so, I've been to most of the places you mentioned and I don't think they warrant the trip through CDMX. For example: you like pre-columbian cultures. I found Teotihuacan underwhelming, and would say there's cooler shit to be found in south america. Obvious example: Machu Picchu is a rare normie destination that actually isn't a meme.

>I honestly don't know what you were expecting from Mexico City when you visited

I think part of my disappointment stems from it being as memed as a "world city" alongside New York, London, Tokyo, Shanghai, etc. This sprawling shithole does not hold a candle even to its alleged peers in the Americas. Go to Sao Paulo instead if you want this kind of flavor. It also has stabby "denizens" around you with safer gringo zones, but at least you won't be paying small-town America prices to be there.

>>2883639
Guanajuato is filled to the brim with cartels.

>>2883650
>I think part of my disappointment stems from it being as memed as a "world city" alongside New York, London, Tokyo, Shanghai, etc.
Yeah I had similar expectations. Then found it to be kind of the same as everywhere else in Mexico. I suppose it has more museums and stuff like that but the problem is Mexican culture has become fairly shitty so everywhere you go it's the same dumb trashy mess.