>>2887593
Friend of mine went for the pyongyang marathon and didn't have any problems, but he also said that it really isn't that interesting, because you can't go sightseeing and everything you see is curated for tourists.

this photo is bad juju

>>2887593
>Any non american here ever been to north korea via travel agency?
yes
it's gotten super easy in recent years
went last year, relatively shortly after they opened again

you'll fly in from PEK most likely
I went to Pyongyang, the goguryeo tombs and hiking on mount myohyang
wanted to do mount kumgang as well but for some reason no tour company offered to go there at the time (I think they do now)
the whole tour was ~2000€ for 8days (well 9 if you count in the briefing before)

they mostly dropped all of the propaganda stuff for visitors which you see in old reports / videos
you get to move fairly "freely"
like you can go visit normal restaurants in Pyongyang

hotels / accommodation are pretty shit for the price
well I didn't expect much, especially for the hiking part and it still was underwhelming
i think the best way to compare it, if you backpacked rural China in the early 2000s, the basic homestays back then are basically the same experience you'll get in best korea today

german passport btw
travel agency did most of the things
but I still had to go to Berlin to their embassy in person

>>2887612
>because you can't go sightseeing and everything you see is curated for tourists
traveling to NK from 2025 onward is a lot different than it was 10y ago
so that's not really the case anymore

>>2887619
> traveling to NK from 2025 onward is a lot different than it was 10y ago
so that's not really the case anymore
How has it changed? Are you allowed to leave the hotels and wander around on your own without a minder now?

Only North Korea can murder Jews and get away with it.
Why did they do it, bros?
rip otto warmbier

>>2887731
Better to kill a dude so he can't speak of the unspeakable conditions in jail than let him blab all on 60 minutes

>>2887726
>How has it changed?
North Korea has gotten a lot richer in recent years (still poor, but relatively speaking like plenty cars and congestion instead of empty streets)
i think they got more confident
or desperate for the money, who knows
>Are you allowed to leave the hotels and wander around on your own without a minder now?
no
but kinda
you still will have a guide with you at all times
but you aren't confined to the standard route and group tours anymore

you can have a 1:1 guide
so only you and the guide
which is what I did
if you don't tell them before what you want to do, they might have to ask first, but generally you're "free" on where to go
stuff like
>ride the metro beyond the 2 propaganda stations
>just walk through Pyongyang
>chill at a park
>go to any restaurant
>go to some actual markets
etc. are easily possible now

>>2887593
I did the fly in from Shenyang in China. I stayed in a NoKo hotel and made the arrangements with some buddies. We flew into Pyongyang on an organized tour. The Mass Games were still on at that time. Did most of the usual tourist shit they take you to, but ended up hanging out a bunch with one of the guides who was this young dude just out of his military service. He showed us his apartment in central Pyongyang on Kim Il Sung Square. A bunch of his military buddies met us up at the hotel and we paid ping pong and drank heavily all night. I hope that guy is still alive.

>>2887615
Horrible what was done to that poor kid. Good God what a horrible photo. Asians are seriously fucked in the head.

>>2890895
Doubtful they did anything like that to him. That was most likely the result of a failed suicide attempt.

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>>2887615
yeah. didn't have a clue this was floating around on the net

>>2891055
His suicide attempt involved extensive loss of tissue to multiple regions of his brain. That would be a pretty impressive suicide.

>>2893561
How do you know? His parents refused to have an autopsy done to the body.

>>2893572
It was confirmed by an MRI, you don’t need an autopsy to confirm the tissue loss at least. It would be like saying “how do you know his legs were broken? There was only an X-ray, no autopsy”

>>2893572
wow just like michelle trachtenberg who definitely not shooting heroin

>>2893595
Source?

>>2893660
https://web.archive.org/web/20190321141027/https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/06/15/otto-warmbier-has-extensive-loss-of-brain-tissue-no-obvious-signs-of-trauma-doctors-say/

>>2887593
rn? no chance. try again later