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>begin digital nomad
>hear thailand is great for exercise, healthy foods, cheap living, good bars, paradise for this kind of stuff
reality:
>Beers are overpriced in all pubs 3.5-4 USD for CHANG piss, want to drink from 711? LOL nope not till 11AM not even Muslim Malaysia is this bad, so if you work US timezone you better remember to fully stock
>Bars either filled with old Europoors or ~finding myself~ mid-20-somethings who shit up the atmosphere 1/2 a second after bringing up I am American
>Food is kinda not that healthy? Everything is fried and questionable. Decent meals are 7-12 dollars if eating out. "cooking at your place" is cheap but it was in the US
>Living cheap is okay I guess, sure 475/mo for a half way decent studio is fine I guess. Cheap places want some stupid amount for electricity and utilities.
>Internet seems shit, it's either fine until rain or weird latency issues especially during storms. Very weird how little free wifi is at places you think would have it.
>Gyms here suck, tried to come here to get shredded but the lack of hygiene by locals and the annoying old timers that just hang out to hit on the girls on the treadmills is weird also why does every song here have to be some shitty cover of a good American song?
>Tourist spots all look way better in the picture
>air quality keeps making me get Claritin but for some retarded reason can only buy in packs of 10
>beach is okay I guess? I'd rather just zip down to PR though.
>DUDE WEED LMAO everywhere is really fucking annoying from the streets to the beach. Fuck I thought I was in LA's bullshit again.

I don't really see the value savings wow 4 dollars for Chinese budlight amazing or 300B for chicken and rice with egg. People made it sound like flaunting a few bucks here and there made your weekend that of a king, as if. I think I spent less in Seoul all things considered while having a higher standard of living, here I couldn't be more unimpressed. Why does this shit get so much praise?
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DUDE PUSSY LMAO
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>>2888716
nigga multiple people have already said this, go to cambodia or laos and get your head cut off while trying to crush puss, it aint 2004 anymore (but on some archive sites you can watch those videos, archive.ph recently removed them)
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>>2888721
>>2888719
I'm just trying to save up enough to buy a house back home anon. I don't care about the pussy game all that much. I just wanted to 3 years off, SEA on a 750-800/mo budget while banking everything else into savings and investments...
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>>2888728
Lower tier Chinese cities are the budget king if all you care about is quality of life and cost. If you want pussy and weed and you're willing to slum it India is an even cheaper option but you will be making heavy compromises in your standard of living

In general if you don't pay for pussy, East Asia > Southeast Asia imo
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>>2888729
Thanks but no thanks, China is blocked by all metrics with work. India is india.

SEA has enough countries to cycle through on visas, and I kind of like the slight culture changes. I just expected more from all the hype Thailand seems to get from everyone I know and people online. I never realized how much of a fucking steal HCMC was...
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>>2888734
You can't into setting up your own proxy with a VPS? Are you HR?
"India is india" is why normalniggers don't go there and how it remains a hidden gem

I'm sure vietnam is good but that's in the process of being enshittified like thailand. indonesia seems ok. malaysia sucks, thailand sucks, laos sucks, cambodia sucks, philippines is basically india but double the price. would rather cycle taiwan/japan/korea or something
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>>2888740
Anon getting a Chinese visa other than the 144hr free one is not viable while here in SEA. I also have google-fi as my provider and yeah it works, but I'd rather not deal with the BS once my Data gets turned off after 90 days and have to deal with my self hosted VPN/VPS that can go down at any time. Due to whatever.

India, I don't care how much it is defended not doing it, especially with the cheapo flights being cancelled and the extreme temps+typhoons they get. We have offices there and when typhoons hit we have to basically play guess if they flood or not.

>would rather cycle taiwan/japan/korea or something
For a budget of 800/mo I am going to get a shed and live off discount ramen. No thanks
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>>2888741
wfh cucks are manchildren
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>>2888742
That's right, anon
Get back to the office
Mr. Shekelstein said you might get a 10% raise if you
work just a little harder this year
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>>2888743
Swing and a miss, employim
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>seethe - The thread
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>CHUD - The thread
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>>2888716
>muh pubs
Can't believe people are still going to Thailand to drink in fucking pubs, knowing that they are all run by criminals as a place to do criminal business. Go have your 62 baht ($1.99) Leo at the food court / night market, where only honest talk can be had because listening ears are all around.
>food is not that healthy
There are healthy restaurants, but you're not finding them in your area. Or else they charge insane markups for a handful of greens with your meat.
>free wifi
that's what you're supposed to get the ZOMG 1199 baht unlimited tourist data SIM card for. That way you never have to use WiFi, or be concerned about running out of data.
>Claritan
Allergy fag. You live too clean and that's why you suffer from allergies. Try being dirty like a jeet for a change. Your allergies will go away.
>>2888742
Chonburi and the eastern shore of the Gulf has thousands of "boutique" businesses which basically exist to separate cux from their bux. They always come here for the modernity, then bitch about the high prices and stinginess of the population.
>>2888729
China is unsuitable in winter.
>b-but china numba won!
No, it's not. China has no protection from Siberian gust fronts and other continental climate patterns like South and Southeast Asia do. China is unsuitable in winter..
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>>2888829
I was in west china in the winter and it was fine
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>>2888829
Some people like Bars/Pubs, especially drinking piss like Changs to be at least air conditioned.
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>>2888742
>living in a low cost of living country for 3 years while I save up massive amounts of money to buy a house is cuck shit
Sure anon, sounds great.
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>>2888716
did you imbibe in ladyboys?
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>>2888860
>paying american prices to live in a "low col" country
>wageslaving for the privilege of paying $500 a month in property tax + HOA fee, forever
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>>2888829
>China is unsuitable in the winter
>What is the entirety of the country south of Wenzhou
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>>2888863
>>wageslaving for the privilege of paying $500 a month in property tax + HOA fee, foreve
IDK where you plan to live, but 500 in taxes per month is for a mansion. Like your yearly tax might be ~1200-3000, assuming you apply for all the benefits and assess it for taxes. You'd have to be something really spicy there. Picrel, europoors would kill for these tax rates

>HOA
I'm not a Karen so no lol. I just want to avoid a mortgage as much as possible for something in the 150-180k range. That will nab me easily a 3-4br somewhere not a worst coast place.
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>>2888863
What lifestyle are you even trying to push? "Just rent forever"...that's the superior alternative?
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>>2888866
Chads don't pay the landlords money your parents have a room you grew up in just live there. Normies bend the knee to landlord and taxes
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>>2888867
Yeah dude just have a supportive family
Spoiled bitch.
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>>2888865
A $150,000 home will require many thousands of dollars in repairs over the course of a few years of ownership. You'll also want to get a dog or two or three, because it's very lonely in the American countryside. Neighbors are kind, but they keep their distance and don't come wandering onto your property for a visit.

Also be aware that living in the countryside will leave you completely dependent on a car. As in, you will need two cars so that way if one breaks down, you can use the other while you are fixing the first one.

Dirt cheap life in America isn't really dirt cheap unless you're a rentcuck who scored a good deal within walking distance of a grocery store. Then you're set. Buying and owning anything has become a lot more expensive. Owning the shittiest shitbox for three years (sleeping in it for extended periods of time, and also driving it everywhere from Oaxaca to Maine) cost me about $500 per month over the period of ownership. American monthly expenses sub $1000 per month are disingenuous because they do not reflect the cost of major purchases like a car, an insurance plan for that car, a new phone or laptop, a plane ticket, or a car repair. Of course you can buy nothing, and let everything in your life fray into rags while trusting others to provide you a place to sleep. For years I couldn't abide the thought of not having my own place to sleep, even if it was a car.
>>2888866
Yes, but rent all over the world.
>>2888867
Most childhood homes in America have been sold for money by the family. That's all anyone who gets a house sees it as: an investment that you live in.

BTW why do you need to live with your parents? You're a free adult, you can live as a rentoid with somebody else's parents instead. Airbnb has opportunities to get your foot in the door of a pleasant shared house if you want to do that kind of thing.
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>>2888864
Disgusting in winter. Damp and gray skies and polluted. Even in April, northern Taiwan was awful. Some of the worst weather of any place I've visited. The same bad conditions exist all the way down to Hanoi. You have to go to the protected side of the mountains (i.e. Southeast Asia and Vietnam below Da Nang) to get lovely winter weather. I'm talking 27 C and sunshine every day in winter. Not 10 C and raining for the tenth time this week.
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>>2888734
>I just expected more from all the hype Thailand seems to get from everyone I know and people
You're several years late to the party
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>>2888865
>150-180k range.
>That will nab me easily a 3-4br
lol
>>2888866
Yeah. Would rather pay $200 in rent in the third world than be looking at $800+ in upkeep alone just to be tethered to a home
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>>2888881
It actually did for my brother. $150K for 20 acres and a three bedroom house in the piney woods countryside of east Texas. He bought it two years ago.
>$200 in rent
That's not what they are charging for a place that meets your Western living specifications.
>just to be tethered to a home
Yeah, don't buy a home if you don't want to live in it lol. Makes no sense at all.

One way to get a house would be to vulturemaxx...care for an elderly homeowner who doesn't want to go to a nursing home, and get the house bestowed to you. Vultures don't kill...they must trust you not to give them the pillow treatment. Imagine living in that atmosphere for years, smelling the rot of a decaying body, dealing with the daily diarrhea wiping, all in hopes of getting a place to live.
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>>2888865
>That will nab me easily a 3-4br somewhere not a worst coast place.
Lol, it's 2026, not 2018, lmao
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>>2888892
Texas, gulf states, and in the midwest are full of these deals
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>>2888881
800/mo is my total budget anon:
-rent
-Mobile data
-food
-transportation around the city/country
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>>2889020
>$-- HOA
>>2889024
if you owned a house and lived in it, your budget would be about the same. house gives you an asset that might appreciate, but if you ever want to travel you'll be paying two expenses at once. (the car/insurance/hoa/property tax/maintenance on your house on top of normal $800 budget)

dont know why people are so gung ho to baghold for boomers imo. stock market outpaces real estate historically, and with population declining globally i don't see that changing
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>>2889033
Yes anon generally Zillow will do -- for no HOA that was just one example to show houses in the 150-180k range exist.
>if you owned a house and lived in it, your budget would be about the same.
Yes anon I know, however I still need to do things like a down payment, insurance, etc. I am living overseas to help build and emergency fund + housing down payment where I want to do either full or 50% depending. I got my investments and retirement finally back on track and paid off all meaningful debt (I don't count my monthly paid off CC). I make about ~90k/yr and would like to sock away ~48k/yr minimum. Which is more or less doable as I split my paycheck into a chime account and brick style bank. 2k/mo to Chime and the rest in savings.
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I found the greatest joy in life by buying a home and getting a wife. I can't believe you losers don't do this. Why are you even traveling?
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>>2888742
why yes I do have a better quality of life than you thanks for asking
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>>2888716
>thailand is great for healthy living
>NOOO MY HECKIN BEERARINO IS EXPENSIVE
>I CAN'T DRINK
Alcohol is for retards and destroys your health. Sounds like Thailand is for healthy living.
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>>2889020
Lol, lmao even
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>>2889065
low T
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>>2889080
> In 2020, its racial and ethnic makeup was 23.4% non-Hispanic white, 63.9% Hispanic or Latin American of any race, 6.5% Black and African American, 3.2% Asian, and 2.3% multiracial or some other race.
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>>2889074
This is not true. A bottle of beer a day has benefits for digestion. Just don't combine it with durian, or drink while durian is in your system.
>>2889024
What percentage of that goes to rent? Low hotel budgets and refusal to use taxis will strictly limit the places you can go in a country like Thailand.
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>>2889113
>A bottle of beer a day has benefits for digestion.
Addicts actually believe this.
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>>2889113
>rent
>hotel
two different economies
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>>2889074
You know you can drink on the weekends a bit without much consequence right? A Friday or Saturday going to the bar for some drinks after pregaming in your abnb isn't usually expensive, just have some beers to keep the buzz going. I'm not going clubbing retard. I was simply using Chang at a pub as a baseline, how is /trv/ this bad with examples.
>>2889080
Yes anon, it was an example to show anon it's possible to buy a house. Picrel is another one. I Don't get how /trv/ claims to work these great remote jobs or own companies or be successful investors, yet fail to understand examples. Anon was stating it's not possible to get a house in the current year for that price, I was posting an example of it being possible.
>>2889113
Airbnb 300-450/mo, so I have about 10 dollars a day for most everything. I give myself about 200 bucks "extra" to round out to 1000/mo but focus on trying to only hit 800/mo in spending. This was easy in Malaysia and Vietnam, maybe should have skipped to Chiang Mia but BKK had my gym work pays for(anytime). Just been running to TOPS for some premade chicken meals recently
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>>2889173
>The 75241 zip code in Dallas, Texas has a population of approximately 32,000 to 34,000 residents. The community is predominantly Black or African American (roughly 63-67%) and Hispanic or Latino (roughly 26-30%). It is a relatively young and family-oriented area with a median age of around 34-35 years.The specific demographic breakdown for the zip code reveals a mix of suburban and city living:

>Racial Diversity: The population consists of Black (~63%), Hispanic (~30%), White (~4%), and Asian/Native American (~1%) residents.
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>>2889187
Anon, you can go look on Zillow for whatever the point being made in the post is that housing in that price range exist. You can go to city-data and then refine your search to whatever Rhode Island white tier libshit city possible. You fail to understand I am pointing out houses in bigger cities exist within the price range, yes you're going to need to fine tune it.

150k is enough for a decent enough place in the Midwest, Houston, OKC, Wichita, Omaha, Colombus OH, Indianapolis, etc etc list goes on. I have no idea why /trv/ hyperfixates on the most stupid shit that completely misses the point of the post.
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>>2889189
The problem people are picking out is that you and others make this point and literally every single time a specific example is provided its in a black hood. Comparatively affordable housing DOES exist as you describe but its almost always 350k-500k. <300k is almost guaranteed ethnic hood
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>>2889189
You're a platformnigger so you overpay by triple in the case of aircucknb or you get tricked into moving to Gary,Indiana in the case of zillow. Blackrock doesn't even want those houses, and it's for a reason.
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>>2889173
That's a crime heatmap

>>2889191
And especially if you want to spend a lot of time overseas, you don't want to leave a house in a high crime neighborhood unattended.
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>>2889191
The first one was in San Antonio oh no mexicans in the south! EEEK, this board will gawk over South America and SEA but Mexicans YIIIKKES! LMAO. I'll take a republican black or Hispanic any day over a liberal hell hole. Again, these houses are just to show they exist anon not that I am going to buy that exact one. Are people actually so retarded on this board they think house click and buy solely on a webpage? Anon, when I get back to the states I am obviously going to live in a few cities to know the area first. Are you actually retarded.

>specific example is provided its in a black hood
Look at the place on google maps and tell me that's a hood lmao, because both posted clearly aren't. Have picrel >inb4 "yuck Omaha boring yawn"

>>2889192
Anon it's called communicating on the internet, it's the best way to show housing is via a platform accessible for all.

>>2889193
>That's a crime heatmap
Yes most big cities have larger crime rates it's why you shop around.
>And especially if you want to spend a lot of time overseas, you don't want to leave a house in a high crime neighborhood unattended.
Hey retard, that's why I am living abroad to save up then go buy a house and not travel as much. Why do you think I am living overseas for X years on a strict budget to save?

These convos reminds me of the retarded ass shit my friends bitched about after they finished college and couldn't figure out finding their own place. Needs to have weather like LA, White as Maine, walkability to places like Tokyo, jobs that pay Silicon Valley, and living cheap as Vietnam.
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>>2889198
Re: it being the hood Im assuming the info other anon posted is valid
>Racial Diversity: The population consists of Black (~63%)
This is obviously unlivable even if it doesn't literally look like a Baltimore ghetto. You're being disingenuous
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>>2889200
Okay then go find a house that you like then anon, holy shit talk about missing the point this hard. Again you can go look for houses yourself, the entire point of the post was that anon was stating you can find houses for 150-180k, again picrel. I looked that one up for you ~50% white, 30% hispanic, 7% black.

>This is obviously unlivable even if it doesn't literally look like a Baltimore ghetto.
Go look at the neighborhood on google streets, all the grass is cut, fences well maintained, cars aren't niggermobiles, basic working class neighborhood. Looks more livable than the "white" cities of the west coast or NE where riots break out every time a brown person cries or trump does something. I grew up in the south, a black or hispanic republican >>>>> white libtard.

>You're being disingenuous
Nah you are by simply looking at one house and assuming that is the only thing I am buying. I clearly stated in 3 years I intend to buy, do you seriously think that the house I posted will even be there in 3 years? Hell no. You need to be 18 to post here
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>>2889201
but you can retire now. you can pay $50 a month in rent to live next to based black men in Nairobi. You don't need 6 million shekels to do that
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>>2889202
>Kenya is the same as having black neighbors in a city in Texas
Wow so true anon very cool.
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>>2889201
Retard alert
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>>2889207
Kek literally every single time. Somehow these guys don't understand they're the millionth person to do this dumb bit.
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>>2889206
Nairobi is better. More walkable, hotter slimmer chicks
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>>2889207
>>2889208
Crime heatmaps are notoriously shit, anyone who's done apartment shopping or moved for work realizes these are built for Facebook mom's and Karen's. The place I lived back home was safe as could be, but crimegrade would rate it F because a few bars near the corner of the map they made had some bar fights, DUI, property theft/dine n dash, etc. These basically suck because the metrics are all web crawled BS with not validation or follow up, just reports.

Especially since you have overall crime selected, go look at the Dakota's or Wyoming. Random nothing burger Farm counties have D and F tier for absurd reasons.
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>>2889211
>they made had some bar fights, DUI, property theft/dine n dash, etc.
Qui?
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>>2889211
Dude it's Dallas so you won't get that distortion and second the price of the house is the tell that it's a bad hood! It's simply the only reason any property in/near a major urban center can be so lacking a bid in 2026
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>>2889213
Crimemaps operate over whatever reports are available on the web. Picrel, your international airports will be worse than the hoods of the USA because nothingburgers happen but the citations and filings happening at airports are classified more serious.

There are a lot of things that can fuck it up, AZ use to have a 0 tolerance .00 driving requirement where other states had .08 so the metric was fucked

>>2889214
dude your website is shit, again go hover over any major airport it will be blood red as one of the worst places to be. Oh wait it isn't.

The Crime Maps also don't take into affect what quantifies as a violation. In DFW stealing something over 100 dollars might land you in Jail. LA? Uhhh citation maybe if the cops show up to Tyrone stealing a PS5. There is no consistent standard as to what's actually at play because how state and local laws vary as to what qualifies as what.

If you're buying a house go live in the area for a bit, check out how things are at the church, talk to some locals at the bar, drive around take a few weeks to live there, etc.
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Oh man bloods and crips got nothing on those farmers in Nebraska. Farmers straight out of Compton growing corn for a living.
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>>2889213
Bars, and moreso colleges, absolutely destroy these types of sites because the crime might happen within a city or two block but the whole zipcode and surrounding gets affected.

The lack of enforcement some democrat states do also make these meaningless. Walking around in a see through thong covered in dildos might get your ass beat in TX and charged with some crimes, whereas LA you get people clapping hoping to be vindicated. Same with weed, some states might tell you to put it out if they see you doing it where some will throw the book at you and show no mercy if you are doing it in a car where you are "transporting illegal substances".
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>>2889216
>>2889217
Again,
1) the map in question is in the middle of Dallas, TX - NOT an airport and NOT buttfuck nowhere, so your handwaving obviously holds less weight
2) the price tag of the house alone in/near a major metro area tells me what the crime maps page is going to look like before I read it, and allows me to conclude that the red coded map is more signal than noise compared to how it might be in [random place, NE]
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>>2889220
How are you this dense?
The metrics the site use are fucked, meaning the data is fucked, meaning it can't be trusted as anything viable. Again, the map is meaningless because some states simply don't enforce the law where crime happens. The site also doesn't state how far back it's records go or when they pruge data, it even admits it's a guess

> the price tag of the house alone in/near a major metro area tells me what the crime maps page is going to look like before I read it,
This is like the debt fag who thinks a 10-12k used car to get to and form their job is le bad because "well the price..." so they go buy new 50k car to only wonder why they are poor. The house was built in 1962, it probably needs a bit of TLC but nothing breaking. Not everything is coastfag pricing

If a airline ticket is cheap does that mean it will be shit and the plane will crash because "took one look at the price! I just know!".
>allows me to conclude that the red coded map is more signal than noise compared to how it might be in [random place, NE]
So you're confirming it's inconsistent, great

>All maps and statistics above are projections, not certainties, and provided without guarantee free of charge. Verify all info before making any decisions based on the data.
These sites are literally made for Karens and Soccer moms to fret over.
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>>2889221
You must be trolling
No one is making the argument that low price = bad across all objects that have a price. It is however a totally reasonable heuristic in 2026 to say, houses <200k in major metro areas with no obvious, visible defects are almost certainly in bad neighborhoods.
>Used car analogy
Non sequitur
>Airplane analogy
Genuinely retarded non sequitur
>So you're confirming it's inconsistent
All data points must be considered independently then synthesized in greater context to determine what's valuable for decision making and what's noise. It is possible for a source to be sometimes noisy, sometimes useful, yes.
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>>2889222
>All data points must be considered independently then synthesized in greater context to determine what's valuable for decision making and what's noise. It is possible for a source to be sometimes noisy, sometimes useful, yes.
The site literally states it's just guessing and projecting what crime is occurring retard. Scroll down and read your "source".
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>>2889217
Yeah, probably a lot of meth, thefts on meth, and DUIs. Rural America has a shit qol, as a rule of thumb.
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>>2889128
Not for a foreigner they aren't.
>>2889126
An addict wouldn't be able to stop at one bottle.
>>2889173
>premade, reheated convenience store meals
Yuck. I'm not willing to limit myself to $10 per day anymore, too much sacrifice is necessary. It's gotta be $20. Maybe in the cheap parts of Thailand I will still have $10 spending days, but it hasn't happened yet.
>>2889191
Not true. Middle-of-nowhere dying villages in Kansas aren't ethnic hoods. But they can be good places to live.
>>2889210
Was gonna say this. I'd rather live around Africans. The climate of Nairobi fucking mogs Houston. The women embrace femininity rather than hoe power.
>>2889211
>as long as it's safe for me, IDGAF if others are getting robbed, catcalled, molested and beat up!
Those things do matter. Unsafe places are much less friendly to solo male strangers. And there are many, many measures of insecurity that go beyond what you feel.
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>>2889224
>thefts on meth
In a wide-open country, that would be suicidal. Anons have reported buying homes in the rural Midwest farm country and feeling complete confidence that they will never be burglarized even when they are away for months at a time overseas.
>DUI
But of course. What else is there to do out there besides drink and drive?
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>>2889261
>Not true. Middle-of-nowhere dying villages in Kansas aren't ethnic hoods. But they can be good places to live.
You are correct which is why I later specified this is a view for home prices in major metros
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>>2889263
The rural midwest is absolutely full of methheads. Why do you think everyone has guns and big ass dogs?
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>over 60% naggers in the suburb
>nooooo crime maps are fake and gay this suburb is perfectly fine I'm going to write twenty posts telling you why aaaaaaaaaaa
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>>2889326
Because they like the freedom to play with dangerous things?
I'm not saying that crime doesn't happen out in the farm country. It does, but very sporadically. A bunch of drunk hillbillies were thinking of rape when they pulled up to my SUV which was parked in a spot on the edge of a cornfield in literal bumfuck nowhere Missouri. An ex-con recently out of prison in Lincoln, Nebraska was sleeping on the roof, on his way to St. Louis for a Greyhound to Chicago. He was evidently a white bottom in prison, because he had learned to be timid and keep his voice low when dealing with other men. Hillbilly dude was leaning into the car like he was going to open the door, and I asked him to please take his head out of the window. You should've seen him jump back. Later on I basically said
>I'd really have hated to shoot you bro, you seem drunk but otherwise decent people
It was 2 AM on a Sunday morning btw. I had a 12 gauge shotgun laying next to my bed. At first we thought they were the landowners, but they said they knew the landowner and he wouldn't mind us spending the night in that spot. I told them I couldn't sleep in the noise and lights of a highway rest area. I needed darkness and quiet. That seemed to set off his rape instincts. He kept asking if I had oxy or pills or weed too.
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>>2889470
>it's not because of crime it's because muh free dumb i swear!
>*describes why it's because of the crime*
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>this thread
I would really like to be a fly on the wall for how anons choose where to live. I mean both abroad and at home, this thread reads like people who would question why move out in their 20's while also saying they can't understand why women don't give them the time of day. All while being fine living in a 250/mo apartment in Bangkok.
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>>2889487
>Price
>Peace
>Proximity
I want to spend no more than $20 per day on average.

You go wherever you can stay. You don't go where you can't stay.
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>>2889487
>how anons choose where to live.
A lot of it is based on fate and inertia but price and degree of difficulty to coom are the biggest standalone factors for me. If it's cheap and I can get a lot of sex (actual legitimate sex without paying) then the place is good
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>>2888741
>I am going to get a shed and live off discount ramen. No thanks
Anon, jap countryside is basically dying, they're litetally gifting homes (as in free if you live there) in some parts.
You can get a way better deal out of the city.
Same thing with italy.
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>>2889822
Then what? It's Japan, you can't even grow weed to smoke as you rot on your porch out in the countryside.
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>>2889829
I told you, same thing in italy.

And likely a lesser form of that all over the rest of west europe, but italy in particoular has that happening.
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>>2888716
Travel is shite in general. Everytime I've went to a hostel the curtains are closed and some freaks have sealed themselves inside their bed by putting up fabric to hide. Then you go outside and realise that just like back home this place also has Assholes.

Travel is only good if your filthy rich and can stay at luxury 5 star resorts and get taxis everywhere and go to the best restaurants. Also known as, being rich makes everything better.
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>house talk on /trv/
Most anons here haven't ever lived outside their parents(no college dorm doesn't count) much less purchased a car right. You'll never have a discussion here about it because
1) half the board is European/Aussie where housing prices are fucked generationally and only meant for mid east migrants.
2) half the board is /pol/ brained and anything outside of a gated community or house in Maine is shit.

I've met up with expats before where I brought up the thought of buying a house in a few years. None of them have the mental fortitude to understand the equity value or change of life. Also for whatever reason buying in the USA, the place with lowest taxes, highest safety net, and lowest overall burden is 'le bad' because LOOK AT nearly* FREE SHACK IN X COUNTRY ANON!

It's a losing battle because most people here think they are forever young because some SEA slag will call them cute for 20 USD. Not realizing when 90% of then are forced to return home and find some living it's going to be fucked.
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>>2889982
I'm not holding your bags boomer. World
population is declining and your ponzi scheme is running out of immigrants
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>>2889983
Housing isn't the ponzi scheme, social security is. So what do you intend to do at 60-70? Pay a landlord 700-1000 a month for a studio as inflation is that bad, rather than just paying 50-175 a month in taxes for a house?
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>>2889985
Your life is backwards. You are wasting your youth slaving for something that will never come. You will probably die in your 50s from being overworked goycattle. I have enough money right now to own a house in rural europe and I will buy it and sit it in when my dick stops working. Get your T levels checked if all you want to do is stay home and knit scarves instead of going outside and getting girls
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>>2889982
There are places in the US where the math makes sense on home purchase for houses that are *BOTH PRAGMATIC AND DESIRABLE*. But of course anons will get a (deserved) kneejerk reaction against buying when they do the boomer "see this house in the hood is 102k, what are you lazy!?" bit that everyone's heard a million times already.
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>>2888716
Yet another american expat realizes that the US wasn't so bad after all, many such cases
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>>2889988
Anon I'm living in Asia and throwing 3k/mo into savings with 2k for fun money. It's more than enough, 800/mo would be hard. I live in Asia for 6-8ish months, europe for ~2, and see home for another ~2; maybe git good

Statistically yes, you will live to see your older years unless you intentionally do adverse things to shorten your life span.

>You will probably die in your 50s from being overworked goycattle.
I can actually retire when I am 50 even with kids because I work remote, went into this in my 20's and have a good nest egg saved. You just suck at finances.


>>2889996
See >>2889198
That one looks fine but will be gone in 6-12 months, you're going to easily buy a home in the 120-150k range for the forceable future as post covid forclosures sell for cash up front.

>>2890015
I think it's more OP being worded in a way to have an exit plan, and 99% of anons here going NO NO I AM STILL YOUNG SEE 37 Year old looks 17!!!!
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>>2890015
The US is a fine country to be in and I increasingly miss it. Though I think it's also the ideal of having a home since I never had one.
It's mostly just the people that are so often miserable and drive you out thinking there has to be better. If so many Americans weren't so vile I would have bought a place to live many years ago and have a stable career. Instead I'm wandering around the world and will be wandering back into America in a while to scope and hope for a place to live that isn't just ripe with mental case malicious freaks.
I've already been down this road before though so I know to write off most of the country and not bother with it again, but I have a small list of places I want to check out as a last hope effort of having a place to maybe call home and only travel for targeted reasons rather than wander around and looking.
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>>2890022
I retired at 28 and you're still working for no reason because you suck at finance and budgeting. Maybe you're doing good for your IQ bracket but not compared to the higher end
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>>2890029
>I retired at 28 and you're still working for no reason because you suck at finance and budgeting.
Great, glad for you man I didn't strike the bitcoin lotto or whatever. Personally I just enjoy working my job, lot of freedom in it to direct how projects go. If I retired at 28, I couldn't see that turning out for better other than me getting bored and spending money on tech.

If you retired at 28, this thread should basically be irrelevant to you. Glad you're financially secure for the next 50-60 years! Cheers
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>>2889847
You don't need to be rich, but you definitely need a certain threshold of spending money to have a good travel experience no matter where you go. Hostels should never be a matter of "that's all I can afford". At that point you are in fact too poor to travel.
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>>2890027
For me the biggest downside of travel is eating at restaurants. Even when I pick and choose, I still end up eating so many shitty meals. The logistics of moving around the map become less stressful with experience. You make a list places that you can go to, then you select for those in an onward direction that have lodging available.
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>>2890022
>That one looks fine but will be gone in 6-12 months
Great, if I get a job in Omaha NE in the next 6-12 months Ill be sure to jump on it. But Im not moving there just for cheap housing inventory.
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>>2890160
> Great,
>>2890031
> Great,
mad af lol
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>>2890160
>if I get a job in Omaha NE in the next 6-12 months Ill be sure to jump on
Why not work remotely
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>>2890214
Yeah just walk up to the remote jobs tree and pick one
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>>2890224
I mean yeah? Get some IT certs to throw on the resume, added to your work history, and indeed floods you with offers. Started working at 18 out of High School because I figured college was gay. 10 years exp at 28 and 6 fig offers is like breathing.
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>>2890226
6 fig is peasant cope. Jobs worth doing start at 250k min and the good ones are 300-400k. That pay and full remote is not like breathing.
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>>2890214
I do work remote. I live overseas and save more than I would living in Omaha with 10x the QoL in the meantime. Also even if you stay in the US IMO Omaha makes even less sense working remotely. I'd be happy to move there if my economic productivity was tied to the location but you are giving up QoL for very marginal if any savings compared to eg St Louis.
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>>2890235
> St Louis.
Here we go again. Nigger loving faggit.
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>>2890234
400k is peasant cope. Jobs worth doing start at 600-700k.
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>>2890236
Im not the guy telling you to live in nig hoods. And I certainly wouldn't in St Louis. But STL County living + occasional urban forays would imo be a better lifestyle and not meaningfully more expensive than Omaha. But you're welcome to swap STL with any cheap, large-ish midwest city of your choosing
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>>2890238
are you the faggit paying $2k a month to live in shitfuckistan
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>>2890239
I have never said where I live or what I pay for housing anywhere in this thread, so no
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>>2890237
Yeah totes dude 700k, full remote, good wlb and getting those jobs with just some IT certs and exp is like breathing. If you can't do this you're a low T incel.
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>>2890304
It's not my fault you're a low T incel
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>>2890306
I had two of those jobs and just showed up for meetings (from the beach of course) to maintain appearances.
I had so much money so I paid some loser 100k to do my technical tasks for me so he can brag about his 6 figure salary.

When you have a hair transplant as good as mine you get all the corporate hr bitches on your side to cover for you.
You're too low T to pull this off.
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>>2889829
>as you rot on your porch out in the countryside
urbanite rats are truly baffling creatures
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>>2890240
Where do you live and what do you pay for housing?
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>>2890338
Taipei, ~2800/mo
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>>2890421
For just housing? That looks way more expensive than I thought Taipei was.
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>check midwest
>find medium sized city
>all 4 seasons
>see picrel
Not sure why people are flipping out about housing int he USA even if you worked a middle class job like 55-60k a year that's living well. Property tax is a bit high but not horrible.
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>>2890421
I hope that's all utilities included with a stunning view.
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>>2890421
I'm moving to Khaosiung in two weeks and looking to pay 5k ntd a month lol. You sound like a fat boomer retard desu. do u even hui zhongwen bro
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>>2890455
>Des Moines Crime Statistics vs. National Averages (Per 100,000 residents)

>Violent Crime: Approximately 495 incidents per 100,000 residents. This rate is higher than the national average of 368 and the Iowa state average of 271.

>Property Crime: Approximately 4,829 incidents per 100,000 residents. This is significantly higher than both the U.S. average (2,731) and Iowa state average (2,194).

>Overall Risk: Residents generally have a 1 in 27 chance of being a victim of either a violent or property crime in the broader city, making its total crime rate higher than roughly 99% of other Iowa communities.
At least it's 56% white. sounds like a lot of meth tho
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>>2890454
>>2890456
It is a 4br townhouse in a nice but not super central location which I will not further disclose.

>>2890473
There is a 100% chance I speak better Chinese than you, and a 99% chance I have the best Chinese of any non-native speaker on /trv/
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>>2890478
>99% chance I have the best Chinese of any non-native speaker on /trv/
but only 0.1% of people on /trv/ give a fuck about learning chinese so you just outed yourself as a buhui coper
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>>2890473
>5k ntd a month
Not sure how much cheaper Gaoxiong is to Taibei, but 5k ntd is nothing. Probably end up in a shared room with 3 other illegal Vietnamese workers
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>>2889113
> Just don't combine it with durian
Why not? Is the combination lethal or something?
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>>2889211
>Crime heatmaps are notoriously shit
Yeah, man, totally. I had some friends who bought a house in White Center (Seattle neighborhood) because they were totally going to gentrify it and make a fortune by buying a cheap house in the middle of niggerville. They were just fine. Of course, the neighbor to the rear of their house was a drug dealer, and when the neighbor to the south of their house went over there to buy drugs, the drug dealer got pissed off at her and blew her head off with a shotgun, but those crime maps are totally bullshit. I mean, who doesn't have neighbors like those? Whitoids living in sterile suburbia? Who the fuck even lives in suburbia?
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>>2890581
The statistics are easy to handwave off until you live it and then it becomes real.
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>>2890421
2800 what, NTD or USD? If USD, how the fuck are you paying 2800 in Taiwan???

I had a top floor ocean view penthouse for US$670 (NT$20,000) per month. Unless you're renting out the Presidential Palace I don't think there's a place in the entire country that can't be rented for under US$1500.
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>>2890583
paypigs always find a way
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>>2890583
>>2890595
>ocean view
Evidently you're not talking about urban Taipei. Also by "penthouse" do you actually mean top floor, entire floor, 3+ bedrooms or are you getting cute with words about your high-floor studio?

Anyway you're welcome to browse 591 and show me how far above the market I am with my search settings. But as far as I can tell, Im middle of the pack to underpaying for what I have.

https://rent.591.com.tw/list?region=1&section=7,5,8&kind=1&layout=4&acreage=40_50,50_
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>>2890613
There's plenty of shit less than half price
https://rent.591.com.tw/list?region=1&section=7,5,8&kind=1&layout=4&price=$_80000$&shape=1
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>>2890636
>If I turn off the square footage filter and look at places half the size or less than your MINIMUM requirement the prices drop by half
No SHIT, retard
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>>2890653
4br is 4br. u got scammed, fatty
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>>2888716
I've seen way too many western fitness influencers that stream from there. What's the logic of a digital nomad? Would it be that much more expensive to find a cheap apartment in your country and live frugally?
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>>2890952
>Would it be that much more expensive to find a cheap apartment in your country and live frugally?
A little bit. I find the cost about the same or a little less in Thailand in short term accomodations. The situation though be
>live in America in some bottom of the barrel of cheap apartment
>no life
>no positive things to experience or have while you live frugally in some dead end shit hole surrounded by obese demons
vs
>live in Thai apartment that's way better than American $1000 per month apartment
>get to live around way better people
>get your pecker touched whenever you want by women of nearly any age, ladyboys, almost whatever you want
Poverty in America or digital doofus in Thailand is an easy choice
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>>2890952
if you can't into a good, location-dependent career with significantly greater upside than being remote or internet money guy, your QoL and savings are both way higher overseas.
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>>2890953
I see. What about the language? How does one handle bureaucracy or deal with locals for anything more than buying groceries? I wonder if nomads feel like they're in a completely foreign place or if they had this feeling in their home country too.
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>>2890957
Most countries speak english where it's needed
>groceries
Pay the total and bring your own bag not hard
>locals
Outside the poorest of poors, most will speak english at a 7th grade level

1200/mo can get you a okay life in the midwest, or you can live near penthouse in X place for Y years
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>>2888716
>claims he went to Thailand for health reasons
>his first complaint is about beer
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>>2890957
>What about the language?
Almost irrelevant. I've dealt with some bureaucracy in Thailand and they'll speak English if needed. If not, Google translate can suffice for the basics needed.
>deal with locals for anything more than buying groceries
I study the language a bit and could at least read slowly. Almost anyone that would be willing to communicate with me though could handle some English though.
>wonder if nomads feel like they're in a completely foreign place
Yeah definitely. And that's a positive.
>if they had this feeling in their home country too.
At "home" I almost always felt like I'm in hostile territory. I've yet to find an a home in America where I didn't feel like that, but I'm going to try again.
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>>2890964
>At "home" I almost always felt like I'm in hostile territory.

Nice thing about every country outside the west is they dont tolerate black/brown criminality
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>>2890953
Living the high life and getting regular pecker play is going to cost you more than living a middle-class life in America. Stop lowballing the costs of being a degenerate in Thailand.
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>>2891136
>it's impossible to have sex for free
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>>2891139
For most people on here, apparently it is.
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>>2891149
sad
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>>2891151
Even sadder that they want it for recreational purposes
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>>2889020
You couldn't pay me 100 grand to live in this suburban shart mart shithole kek
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>>2890455
this looks like where boomers go to die, imagine living here kek
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>>2890953
>Poverty in America or digital doofus

Go fuck yourself.
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>>2891165
>>2891166
So where are you going to be living in the USA anon
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>>2891136
Are you kidding lol.
What is a middle class life in America and it's monthly cost in USD please
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>>2891259
shared kitchen and bath in a big city with strangers, never eat out dont own a car. cost: $1200 a month
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>>2891259
Own a $100,000 house in a small town or city, $1000 a month income from 10 hours per week work, get free food, free medical etc,,,,living like a king, top 5% in the world
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>>2891272
$25/hr. The Appalachian Dream.
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>>2891272
Sounds like you're surrounded by obese demons, mexicans, other americans etc

>>2891269
>shared anything
>middle class
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>like a king
Lol ok hermit king. Stay in your hovel
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>>2891282
>>2891284
White incels cry about everything as life passes them by
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>>2891272
Sounds like some middle America fucking losers version of a king
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>>2891166
Nope, that looks like a development full of nuevos americanos, i.e. Hispanics. Boomers live in 3000 square foot houses, not those little old places. Single family homes are not designed for solo living (which is an unnatural product of modern globohomo BTW, humans have always been tribal and lived in groups).
>>2891282
What does it matter who your neighbors are? Unless they are completely obnoxious noisy fuckers or else nosy fuckers, their existence is totally irrelevant to yours when you live in an American suburb.
>>2891269
$600 per month for rent leaves you $20 per day for everything else. Yeah, you're going to have to say "no" to everything, except maybe smoking weed. In states where it is legal and cheap, you can get high for $1 per day easily and forget about everything else.
>>2891259
It's really not as expensive as some of you think it is, provided you spent your whole life building the middle-class life you want to live in America instead of just renting any old place, taking any old job and then doing the commuter shuffle every day.
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>>2891301
Keep in mind that when people see you walking around in a country like Thailand, they know you're a loser because you can't afford to have your own car.
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>>2891303
this. don't let them know you don't have the Stanley Thermos. They'll get the ick real fast.
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>>2891302
>you can get high for $1 per day easily and forget about everything else.
Do you burn blunts like a nigger or do you use a proper glass pipe?
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Chang is unironically good, though.
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>>2891292
>if you don't buy some cheap house in the middle of nowhere you're a crying incel
Brilliant
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>>2891452
And yet here you are crying about it. Maybe go back to your usual incel blog and cry about how all the boomers got free mcmansions on knob hill and you demand a free virgin or you will withhold your burger flipping skillz and society will suffer
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>>2891500
Bro people need to eat. Can you just imagine what's going to happen when I stop flipping burgers? Riots, starvation, crying babies, etc. it's fucking over for you bro. Society's completely plonked. And cooked.
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>>2891514
One nice thing about leaving western shitholes like the US or UK or Germany and visiting relatively poor countries like Thailand or Vietnam is jobs at McDonald's are aspirational and attract the best workers instead of the dregs. McDonald's there is truly a magical place.
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>>2891325
Chang beer is disgusting skunky piss sold in a green bottle. All green bottle beers are skunky as fuck.
>>2891312
I go the white trash way, poke a hole in the side of a Coke can, pile some weed on top and take a rip.
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>>2890613
So other than the "paypig" spammer, who we can safely say is either trolling or retarded, I take everyone else's silence as an admission they realize they know fuck all about Taipei lease rates?
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I am a girl and I will literally refuse to go out with any man who has been to thailand. trust me us girls all know why you are there. degenerate sex tourist.
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>>2891165
>look this up
>food store walking distance
>local butcher shop
>walshart for anything else
>fast food out the ass
>park right behind the house
>could own a car or two
>bus stop at the exit to the neighborhood (rare)
>gym close by
>quick search shows a lot of high paying jobs (or at least better than UK)
Do americans really look at this and go "Damn this isn't good enough. There might be a brown person around here damnit!!!". That's a fucking mansion most people in europe would die for
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>>2894221
Incels cry about everything, dont take them seriously
>>
>open up housing site
>click center of the map
>see this
>amerimutts complain "NOO CAN'T AFFORD A HOUSE I ONLY MAKE 100,000 DOLLARYDOOS AS AN CODER WHILST WORKING REMOTE!!! I MIGHT HAVE TO TELL MY WIFE TO JOIN A GYM"
>meanwhile in reality
>3 beds, aircon, full kitchen, big yard to do anything in AND a yard in the back too
>in a big city it seems

YOU CAN NOT BE POOR IN THE USA.
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So wait, you can make 12 quid an hour being a service working ringing up groceries? So if you were to save up and pay off a house in full you basically would live without much any worry. What are amerimutts complaining about.

>>2891166
Anon there is a shopping district 20 minutes from that it seems. While it might be terrible to you I imagine you would never deal with protests or other things happening. Having to own a car is one thing that is indeed annoying but you could cycle easily to those parts for any daily goods.

Americans are literally brain broken if they think this is bad.
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>>2894225
Who the fuck wants to live in Oklahoma or other shitholes like the midwest etc? its cheap for a reason
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>>2894250
>Who the fuck wants to live in Oklahoma or other shitholes like the midwest etc? i


99% of people in the world
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>>2894250
Where do you live anon?
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>>2894250
Why does the Midwest have such a bad rep? Don't give me the answer "nothing to do"
t. Euro
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>>2894399
Its great you can get a house on 10 acres for $250,000 have a hobby farm, hunt on your own land, but city fags need to live near the big shitty so they can get goyslop and AIDs injections 24/7
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>>2894423
I would live in the Midwest but there are no jobs
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>>2894423
rural retard
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>>2894481
Half of all jobs are in the Midwest
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>>2894399
Hollywood paints it as nothing but farmers, racists who do methlabs in the barn, white Christian communities, nothing but corn and country; and above all else low paying jobs.

Realistically most people I know who didn't move to some frozen hell like Fargo or nowhereville Arkansas like it. However there are a few points that irk a lot of coasties:
-No mountains that are 4-6 hrs away for ski'ing, some people dread rolling hills only
-No beaches, waterparks and freshwater lakes only
-Less major flight hubs compared to port cities(mainly for international)
-Need a car for things and the average <30 american can not fathom buying anything not brand new. 10K A->B car? bfft
-Despite having normal bus systems with far less tolerance for liberal hell hole fuck ups, "NO HEKKIN PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION!!!1"
-Bars and communities are more homey, if you're a transplant you gotta leave your "IM FROM LA/NYC/PLACE AND BOY YOU GUYS DO IT DIFFERENT WHY DON'T YOU JUST..." at the door and share hobbies like a non tard.
-Seasons are more brutal than coastal states that often get the buffer of the ocean to help keept more moderate overall (inb4 from boston and we get snow!)
-women are fat pigs, many more do marry earlier but tons out there at normal everyday places to find good ones at (especially if you're a nerd)


Biggest sore thumb is the jobs aren't Silicon Valley 250k starting, but I moved to the midwest make 90k work fully remote now, far more job security, life is far less stressful. Traffic is far less an issue compared to coastal choke points, bars and restaurants don't feel like a rush to get me out the door for next person, dollar goes much farther, taxes are lower along with rent and fun events(most being free/nearly free compared to Coastal cities). Probably the final issue is if you are someone who tells tall tales you're going to be remembered as that unlike a city where EVERYONE try's to see how much they can get away with.
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>>2894481
It has tons, what are you talking about? Companies are moving to the midwest in droves.
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>>2891165
it's kind of funny the road is called mountain forest drive
i guess the mountain forest was what was there before they built all the fucking houses
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>>2895030
Nigga is bragging about the equivalent of sub 70k pre Covid.
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>>2895053
70k/y in midwest is and was fine. Personally I make 97k, that's about 30-35k over the median HOUSEHOLD income, of which I am single income.

lots of those 250k/yr jobs back on worst coast had/have issues, most people I know
-always being looked at by some HR karen for things (even during biden) no bullshit they'them stuff
-most people I know work close to the C level bosses and could talk them without their head being chopped off
-no worrying about "shit did I clock in before 7:59AM?, oh man 1hr lunch is cutting it close with that traffic time for a 18.99+tip food truck burrito at work
-holidays, specifically thxgiving/christmas are given much much more time off and leniency with company just being off for extended days
-I can take my vacations without having to beg and grovel on my knees for it like on the west
-houses don't get insane tax rates or fee's no fucking HOA karens
-overall cost of living makes anything over 70k feel like 150k

Most importantly my pay is my actual pay, no bullshit of 250k*** : 150k base pay, supplemented by: stocks no selling until you leave the company :) , free GAYWADS 24/7 gym 2000 dollar value!, FREE summer retreats to resorts please work with HR to schedule time to random_snow_town first! Taxes and Fees apply, 2 weeks off per year, company cell phone plan a 599 value!!!, LGBTQAI+ surgery forgiveness!

Worked for S&P 500/Fortune 100 style places and ones on it, all the same bullshit. When I take time off by boss leaves me the fuck alone, I asked if I could work abroad for a tad and just got "damn sounds cool anon you'll be online for the normal 9-5 right? Okay sure do it."

Owning a car gets you places unlike on the west coast, where you just get bottlenecked for 4 hours just to get out of the "hussle n hekkin bustle" of the city limits.
>>
Oh and not having my city shut down every time some brown person cries on CNN, fent zombies turning into squatters, mega homeless problems creeping in everywhere, or other BS. Is worth it. If/when they manage to fix that without being forced to white flight again pushing you farther from work; I might look back at those cities.


For all the BS the midwest gets for fent/meth, most people do it in a very restricted area(unless you're in austin then lol).
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>>2895170
>>2895167
fuck off back to facebook you cuckservative migger
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>>2895173
Anon, most people here probably make the median household income lmao. That means 2 people.

Even if you only did 70k you're on the better half of most states in the midwest, easy to afford a home with that.
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>>2895167
Yeah, adjust for inflation. You're bragging about roughly 75k pre Covid which was entry level at that time for a variety of skilled white collar professions.

Outside of like NYC and the Bay, the cost of living differential isn't that high. You're downwardly mobile, and proud of it because some retard with a podcast told you this owned the libs.
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>>2895220
Right above you, 2024 numbers lol.
>You're bragging about roughly 75k pre Covid which was entry level at that time for a variety of skilled white collar professions.
Anon, if I wanted to I could change jobs yesterday get back into working for big names making 75k base with project bonuses and billed hours of 10-15k/mo. Seriously not that hard if you're willing to travel with work, bow down to an resller/VAR or MSP.

Problems are what I listed, I'll take 97k living in the midwest where I am just able to fuck off a few months a year to asia+live like a king. I just don't care to do the Hekkin daily stand ups, clock in clock out to the minute, HR stacy's, my job each fiscal year being questioned because H1B's or AI could replace me, dealing with every goy messaging possible, etc etc.

Just because you have big number on paper doesn't mean you're better, I know GS-12 and 14 people with tons of money+freebies but are dumb as brick laptop replacement techs.

>Outside of like NYC and the Bay, the cost of living differential isn't that high.
Yeah I too recall where I can get a 4BR 1288 sq ft place for ~1600/mo in those places, with a pool free parking community center and fitness center. 1br is still cheaper outside those places unless you are doing that share house style 3rd world shit or actually making section 8 income.
Only turdworlders and people who never lived on their own bring up LA/SF/NYC and go "it's practically the same".

Get back to me when you try to commute through them for work or better, want to go out after brownoid got arrested and protests are a block over. I have it sucks
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>>2895220
Cheapest apartment I could find on apartments.com that isn't "studio" aka 1 bed with shared kitchen/living area and also being a real apartment complex not some rando's upper room in a duplex. Eyballing that it looks like ~200-275 sq ft, all for 1400 for THAT. What a steal! also don't factor in the much much higher tax/utilities.

https://www.apartments.com/500-new-york-ave-union-city-nj-unit-studio/p7tz1ns/
Old as shit must suck in winter but hey, hussle n bussle!
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>>2895223
You have a lot of chutzpah. But the reality is, you'd be pretty retarded to move from Austin or Sacramento to Indianapolis. Once you get out of the VHCOL metros, this whole "move to the Midwest because le cheap" becomes a far worse option, since you can't really arbitrage like some VHCOL worker doing it remote (who's now getting paid like a native Braxton).
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>>2895239
Anon if you are happy living in a megacity sure, stay there believe me no one cares or shoud care where others live. Hell, I miss some of the things the coastal cities had to offer and have no real replacement for it while in the midwest. However, drop in the bucket compared to the overall net gains. The posts basically start from someone asking for the rundown of living in the midwest+bad rep.

>this whole "move to the Midwest because le cheap" becomes a far worse option
You understand the whole point of the conversation with the anon was to show that 70k is living well in the midwest which it is, not that you SHOULD move there. Follow the replies for context next time there anon.
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>>2895239
>live in Sacramento
>make maybe 125k
>50k/yr minimum to live there if we are being realistic on safe places
>taxes out the ass form muh lgbtqiap+ programs
>5 minute showers please!!!
>companies leaving CA daily
vs.
>live in Texas
>no income tax
>make probably 85-105k in something like tech
>20k/yr is living large at some city
>fastest growing economy

GEE WONDER WHICH ONE I'D LIVE IN HUH
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>>2895650
no actually it cost $90k to live in Sac and $4k to live in Tx
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>>2895661
Actually had to look it up.
1BR in Sac is ~1700-2100/mo

1200 gets you THIS.

The absolute MOGGING
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>>2895663
wao is that a POOL?
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>>2891165
>2 floor house
>place for two cars forget what this is called we don't have them
>yard with real grass
>sidewalk for going to the store
>schools you can walk your kids to
>everything imaginable right by
>park and such near the home
>hospital close to home
>even a golf course of all things near by

Anon if this is "bad" what is good? Paying ever increasing rent till you are unable to pay when you are old? Don't Americans get like some infinite money when they turn old or something? Imagine telling this to someone who's only home that has 2br is >300,000 AUD and you're turning your nose up because something is cheaper in thailand.

FUCK RIGHT OFF
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>>2888716
Put a godamn sock in it you real estate fucking dorks. This is about Thailand, not ratshit real estate in scorching heat beantown Texas. Just be fucking quiet. Post teens and teen experiences or fuck off
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>>2895663
Imagine living there, where your only food options are an Applebees 30 minutes down the road in one direction and a Burger King 40 minutes down the road the other way.
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>>2888865
>I just want to avoid a mortgage as much as possible for something in the 150-180k range.
How the fuck? That is how much a 20sqm flat costs in Eastern Europe...
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>>2895691
Anon you have that place called in-n-out isn;t that like the greatest hamburgers ever or something mutts talk about.

You will complain about anything.

>>2895689
My company has me offered to move to texas because of policies and tax things, I want to hear it.
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>>2895700
Looks like a boring chink suburb. It will just be you driving from your house to your job alone and having no friends. But at least you will have time to come on 4chan and copepost.
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>>2895704
>But at least you will have time to come on 4chan and copepost.
or a family to raise
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>>2895711
better bring your own bitch because there's none out there in the burbs
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>>2889830
>And likely a lesser form of that all over the rest of west europe, but italy in particoular has that happening.
No it doesn't. Prices are ridiculous everywhere. As usual a dumb American is reacting to a situation from 15 years ago.
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>>2895712
Are you actually stupid? No shit people aren't socializing to get fucking in the suburbs this is like complaining and apartment sucks because it doesn't have a bar on floor 1 along with a coffee shop for women to meet.

You go to the burbs to live, but you still go out to your hobbies like concerts, shows, events, etc around the bigger city. Dallas is fucking HUGE, if you have problems dating there, you are the problem not the scene.
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>>2895852
>your hobbies like concerts, shows, events
>says the same thing 3 times
you met your cow wife at a tim mcgraw concert or some shit, boomer? that's real cute but no thanks
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>>2895858
>says the same thing 3 times
You know an event can be like a 5k thing for charity right? Or Tough Mudder, or a Fall festival event, or even a fucking anime convention of all things. There are freebees anyone can get laid at like St. Patricks day bar crawl or Cinco De Mayo fest or fucking valentines day single events if you're desperate.

You must be one of those NPC that if it's not just doing a business transaction for a woman to touch you, then you're clueless on how to engage people.
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>>2895867
>You must be one of those NPC that if it's not just doing a business transaction for a woman to touch you, then you're clueless on how to engage people.
That's what you are. You need these scripted "events" as an excuse to talk to girls because you're a pussy
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>>2895870
>normal social activities and enjoying hobbies is "scripted"
Yeah that's great autism anon, sure. I am sure you just walk up to girls at the bar, saying LOOKIN GOOD LADIES, then just walk away too right?
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>>2895867
You sound like one of those NPCs who can actually go to a public event and mingle with the general public and not feel like you're going to vomit.
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>>2895874
That's most of the planet, interacting with other humans is not difficult for people.
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>>2895870
>That's what you are. You need these scripted "events" as an excuse to talk to girls because you're a pussy
Anon, scripted events are like speed dating, trivia nights at some bar like BWW or Chilis, or ladies night. How the fuck is a charity 5k event scripted? Because there is a finish line? 99% of the people there just walk and talk you shut in
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>>2895873
I cold approach on the street, you drive to ComicCon and wait for trannies to approach you and then you drive home. Meme related is you with the gorditas on le ebic cinco de mayo
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>>2895876
You are justifying your intentions with plausible deniability. You have to do that because you're too scared to cold approach during the day without a context given to you by a higher power
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>>2895877
>>2895881
>introvert can't comprehend extrovert
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>>2894228
>So wait, you can make 12 quid an hour being a service working ringing up groceries? So if you were to save up and pay off a house in full you basically would live without much any worry. What are amerimutts complaining about.
They are very stupid and lazy.

Did you know that America also has "food banks" where you actually get groceries for free regardless of your income or status? You just drive up and pick up whatever you want, people post food bank hauls on youtube - you essentially get any supermarket goods they have, and you can cook with it instead of leaving half of your paycheck at the supermarket like in the EU. And the food banks in the EU don't give you shit unless you are certified 0 income 0 possessions 0 real estate poor person who has to report to the job center every week/month and has everything officially stamped and isn't allowed to earn any money.
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>>2895223
What exact job allows you to just fuck off out of the country for a few months randomly?
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>>2895925
Don't forget if you play your cards right and limit yourself to 25,000 USD/yr you can get 0 federal income and a slew of other tax benefits+gibs.

>>2895928
Plenty of remote IT jobs do, where I work I can spend all the time out of the country so long as I have a US address and keep my certificates up to date. I usually do 6ish months abroad, 6 months in the USA. My last coworker would just go live in Serbia for a while with his wife just having to work 4PM->12AM his timezone. Long as work is done and projects are met, at least my boss doesn't give a fuck.

We do have a policy of you can't use "my travels caused my delays" though and never tell HR karens that still go into our old office complex about it.
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>>2895925
You're a disgusting Indian. Only a jeet would go to a food bank if they weren't in desperate need for it.
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>>2895928
min wage entry level. quit and get a new job when you come back
>>2895932
kinda true. if you ever go to one it's just chinks, jeets, and spics. and they dont have meat or anything that good
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>>2894228
>save up 100k NEET mode for a 2ish years
>get 100k house
>property taxes maybe 500/yr because states often look at assessed value not sold value, which assessed is often far lower than sales value
>save more
>work some BS job just to pay for a few fun things here and there part time
>maybe work to where government pays for you to eat, free internet, healthcare paid etc.

It's entirely possible to "retire" early if you play your cards right and don't get into a debt spiral.
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>>2895987
"· The National Average Bill: Around $3,000 to $4,400 annually. Estimates vary from $2,937 (median) to $4,427 (average for a single-family home).
· The Effective Tax Rate: The national average is about 0.89% of a home's assessed value.

State-by-State Extremes

The difference between the cheapest and most expensive states is massive, often more than 10x.

· Highest Tax Bills (Often Northeast): Driven by high home values and local services. New Jersey leads with median bills of **6,542) and Connecticut (~$6,573).
· Lowest Tax Bills (Often South): West Virginia (~890) have the lowest median bills."
Your plan is solid, but it's a boring retirement. $3k in property tax is $250 a month. There are dozens of countries in the world you can live in for less than $250 a month in rent. That's a more interesting retirement plan to me than rotting next to a fent farm in west virginia
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>>2895987
>>get 100k house
WHERE
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>>2896155
bumfuck nowhere/need a lot of repairs/relegate your children to backwater filled with fat and stupids with no opportunities so they can get hooked on fent/no dating option

its not necessarily always bad idea but dont fall for this decades old conservacon bullshit lies... remember what good have they ever done for you before trump?
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>>2896157
See >>2895699
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>>2894225
See >>2896155

>>2896157
OKC has a ton of shit dude, pay attention to your children and help them study and then it's a non issue.
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>>2896158
>>2896188
Well I can't exactly immigrate to America as a White European can I.
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>>2896614
go on a tourist visa and marry a roastie



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