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Planning a 3 week trip for 3-4 countries in 3 regions of Europe I haven’t been to yet

Loose plan
-Ireland: 4-5 days. Is Dublin the only thing worth it with this short amount of time or is it trash? Where else?
-Balkans: 8 days. Croatia - suggestions?
-Scandinavia: 8 days. Best 1-2 countries and places?

I prefer to be around as many white people as possible (wary of Dublin), beautiful art/architecture/culture/women (no hookers)
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>>2895186
>Is Dublin the only thing worth it with this short amount of time
Yes, do not leave the most touristy parts of it, nothing to see outside of that.
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>>2895186
Nigga pick one fucking region, hopping from all these regions to the other doesn't sound fun at all.
Just skip Ireland and do 3 weeks in either all the Balkans or all Scandinavia, but not both.
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Do anything but Dublin in Ireland. It's a dump. The countryside is marvelous.
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>>2895288
>people have infinite time to spend weeks and months in every place they want to go

How about no. Go stay at the same resort for 3 weeks and kys retard

>>2895325
Anything in particular?
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>>2895378
3 weeks is 3 weeks stupid nigger
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>>2895186
Sweden has the best (white) women but yeah it's full of niggers so idk what to tell you. I'm in a very swedish town where migrants are shunned (we only have 1 family of nigs here n they're not the zoomalian kind so it's cool), but there isn't much to see or experience.

I'd go for Kiruna (northernmost sweden where the sun NEVER settles during summer, it's light out 247) and hike Kebnekaise (2.5km mountain), niggers tend to avoid these places. There's also an ALL ICE hotel around there
https://www.icehotel.com/
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>8 days in Scandinavia

Why would someone willing do this?

As for Croatia, don't sleep on Istria. Rovinj was beautiful and slightly more laid back than the more popular parts of the southern coast. Pula is great if you want a bigger city. Zagreb doesn't need more than 2 nights.
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>>2895382
>why
Retarded mutts who think scandinavia is this magical (socialist) place lmao
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>>2895186
>Ireland: West and south-west worth visiting. Galway-Killarny is nice if you want some light hiking and some coast. Balkans, you do not need 8 days. Unfortunately it seems the Balkans had their history largely bombed out of them, such that you don't really get big historic attractions like you would in any western European country, nor are there any noteworthy theme parks that I'm aware of in ex-Yugoslavia, maybe water parks? In short there's little to do and you can quite easily see all the main coastal cities on the Adriatic in a couple days, catch being that doing so is boring since you've got small historic areas where museums, galleries etc. cost way more than they're worth, the food also costs more than what it should and unless you've got some swim trunks on hand and some friends to piss around with, there's just nothing to do! I haven't been to North Macedonia though and the lake areas look and are meant to be gorgeous. Probably the one cool thing I saw in Croatia was going in the like old castle thing in Trogir and watching a football match from the top of the castle, that was fun.
>Scandinavia: Tivoli in Stockholm and Copenhagen only been to Stock but was fucking expensive for what it is, wanna go to Copenhagen. Stockholm imo is underrated and Oslo is that on a smaller scale. Gothenburg nice. I've only been to those cities really. You can pick one and spend a couple days and you've basically seen all of them. Oslo and Stockholm both have old ship museums, though Stockholm's Vasa is bigger and better... They both have open-air folk museum, YMMV but I think Skane is the better of the two. Stockholm has Drottningholm castle and Oslo has nothing to really compare to that in terms of grand architecture. Oslo has Akershus a cool fortress which Stockholm to my knowledge has no equivalent, but its not incredible either. Coffee scene in Oslo is better than Stock, arguably best in the world. Apparently Copenhagen has many other great roasters.
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>>2895186
Honestly, I think you're travel plan is dumb if this is going to be your trip for the year. If you live outside Europe you are wasting your holiday. If you live in Europe you should really see the places mentioned as city-breaks. Some caveats for you to know based on experience:

Ireland: VERY cheap flights to/from UK from £12. Hotels expensive, east country like UK. Drogheda only place worth mentioning due to Bru na Boine. Dublin skippable. Almost all Irish cities look the same. Cork, Dublin, Limerick entirely skippable. Belfast rougher but more fun, still skippable, Giant's Causeway is SHIT irl (its like 3m2 of stone, all photos are deceptive). Galway best by far. Killarny comfy. Cliffs of Moher I've never seen so many Americans in my life lol.
Buses usable, trains okay. If flying go to Shannon only bother with Killarny, Cliffs of Moher tour and Galway or in the opposite order. Its the best way of killing 3 days. Check concerts.

Balkans: Transport post-Yugo been raped no trains cross countries, gotta use shitty buses, and they are SHIT for border hopping roads are rough take forever.
Montenegro countryside okay Podogorica is the most boring place on Earth.
Albania Shkoder nice not much to do tho, Tirana trashy but eh. Bunkart is something but not hours of stuff lol. Croatia you'll be using bus a lot... its a faff. Again get your swim trunks or don’t bother, honestly. Haven't been Serb, Bos or Mac. Bro has but again he mostly recc'd Bos and Mac, never seems to talk about Serb or Kos other than how cheap they were... like 10 years ago.

Scandi good toogoodtogobags. Capital cities are nice yeah... Pub transport getting in is fucking expensive. Arlanda express is like 15 quid one way if not way more? Oslo has two airports one like an hour away and it costs a lot to get there.
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>>2895414
picrel trogir... playing with filesize rn
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>>2895414
What’s your idea of a trip that ISNT a “waste”? You’re about to propose something I’ve probably already done
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>>2895412
Croatia and the Balkans SUCK and 8 days is too long. Scand also SUCKS. Everything SUCKS

Very nice, trv
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>>2895417
What, going to those locations? If you've been to the UK you've basically seen every Irish city sans Galway, and if you've been to Switzerland you've already seen that. Italy's coastline has way better cities than Croatia from scale alone, to say nothing of the art, history, actually good transport links and proximity to amusements. Oslo and Stockholm are great places and ones I'd like to return to. But I can't imagine what you'd do with 8 days even outside them unless you're going camping for a while. Its not a waste going to any of these places, but spending your entire holiday allowance on them? Really?

>>2895419
Its not THAT harsh. Lets hear your take, then.
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>>2895420
I’ve been to Italy twice
I haven’t been to UK and have little interest in it except Scotland, so I’d choose Ireland over that

It’s one of 2 three week trips for the year, with the other being Asia, done in February.

Last year I went to Budapest, Vienna, krakow, Munich, Venice, Belgium and people shit on that, but it was great outside extremely overrated Venice. Everyone is either “ that’s too long bro for one place” or “that’s too many places bro”. All incoherent shut ins who probably don’t even travel.
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>>2895421
yeah people have different philosophies for travel. personally i'm a slow traveler and always stay the max I'm allowed to stay
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>>2895421
Fair enough in that case, that is a LOT of holiday allowance, very jealous. That being said if you have little interest in the UK, avoid east Ireland for the reasons mentioned before. What part or aspect of Scotland interests you?

>Last year I went to Budapest, Vienna, krakow, Munich, Venice, Belgium and people shit on that
People shit on everything here. Its a good itinerary, wouldn't spend more than 2-3 days basing in each place outside Krakow but still. Venice is nice, its the overtourism that kills it.Where in Belgium did you go? What were your favourite things to see and do on that trip?

>>2895425
>Slow traveller
Since seeing some video on the subject matter consisting of an American saying that he spent 3 days in Paris than went straight to Strasbourg (dude, you just skipped half the country on the way) I'm skeptical of that term.. Basing in a city and using it to get to nearby places is a legit strategy. I think the lines are so blurred for what constitutes slow travel that it doesn't really work as a term. Personally, I'd imagine it to be like an all-inclusive holiday in the Costa del Sol, you're not really travelling places, you're relaxing and having fun, its slow travel!
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>>2895505
>dude, you just skipped half the country on the way
reddit
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>>2895186
>4-5 days. Is Dublin the only thing worth it with this short amount of time or is it trash?
Do something like 2 days in Belfast, 2.5 in Dublin
Unless you're really taking your time or exploring the surrounding cities 5 days is too long in any city unless you're doing some sort of activity there.

>I prefer to be around as many white people as possible
Don't fall for the American propaganda you see, areas of London are filled with North Koreans (yes, really.) and areas of South Africa are filled with getto whites
It isn't indicative of these places as a whole, I've seen plenty of white people who are more sketchy than blacks.
European blacks (not African) aren't really even that bad its the ones fresh off boats from Haiti or w/e.
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>>2895186
for balkans i recommed renting a car and make it so that you can drop it in another place so you don't have to go back to the original place.
public transport is shit and there's more to see if you just drive yourself.
croatia is very touristy and with lots of historical cities, towns etc. (Zadar, Split, Dubrovnik)
bosnia has nothing interesting except mountains, nature etc. if you're into hiking and so on.
but if you only have 8 days might as well only stay in croatia
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>>2898022
Remigrate
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>>2898407
I'm white and British, get a job and move out of your shithole maybe you'll see other areas of your country are pleasant.
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>>2895186
>I prefer to be around as many white people as possible (wary of Dublin), beautiful art/architecture/culture/women (no hookers)
what the fuck do you wan tin Scandinavia then?
you typical would go there for the nature and vibe
and maybe like 3 cities for the architecture
but otherwise it's pretty bland after just a day

>Ireland, Dublin
again the countryside the cool part
dublin is okay as a city but pretty boring for visitors
sounds more like you'd enjoy Edinburgh and Scotland around

also you 3 location all need a FULL day of travel in between
e.g. 1h to airport, 2h buffer, 2h flight, 1h out, 1h to destination, add in eating and you're left with only the late evening

unless this is literally your last trip to Europe
I'd stay in one region
maybe 2, but not 3

>Balkans
probably the best option with your interests
do Vienna and Bratislava, or if you've already been there start somewhere else like Graz or Innsbruck
then Slovenia through Ljubljana
down to Croatia down the coast until Dubrovnik
very classical euro roadtrip with rental car

if you want to go more outdoorsy, either in the beginning in the Alps (the 3 border crossing near Villach is really cool)
or do Montenegro at the end

if you want more history/art
start in Italy instead of Austria (if you have been to Vienna, otherwise Vienna every day)
either the long route from Lago di Garda / Verona or from Padua / Venice

any way
that's ~1500km +- depending on the route by car
much better paced than you current itinerary
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>>2898441
>FULL DAY of travel to fly in Europe

Why lie? Cope to justify your own decisions? How is it any better to get on a 5-7 hour total time train or bus, dumb ass? Flying in Europe: 30 min train to airport, 20 mins walking/through security, 30+ mins at a free lounge to eat, 2h flight, 30 mins out of the airport, 30 min train.

>9am flight lands at 11, get to hotel before check in, saves 2+ hours vs a train/bus, allows you to diversify your trip in a whole new region

WOW literally ALL day like a FULL DAY wasted bro

>noooo only 1 heckin region at a time!!!

Most of you retards here travel like boomers it’s embarrassing
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>>2895186
Spend all your time in the Balkans, they are kino
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>>2898992
Flying wastes a whole day
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>>2898992
can you read retard?

my propose alternative is taking the car
and staying in one (larger) region
which means usually only 2-3h drives between your location

>How is it any better to get on a 5-7 hour total time train or bus
if you travel LONG distance, of course flying will be faster
what long means depends a little on the country
HSR in Spain, France or Germany for example can be faster than flying for a lot of city pairs

your times are also complete delusions
>30 min train to airport
door to door this is really rare
1h from leaving the accommodation to Terminal is the realistic number
>20 mins walking/through security
yeah but only if you have no checked baggage and you're outside of vacation times
currently (July) you need 2h buffer at literally any European airport
>30+ mins at a free lounge to eat
there are no free lounges, either you fly business or above or you pay with some kind of lounge pass fees like from your credit card
>2h flight,
that's the only realistic part...
>30 mins out of the airport,
again, only outside of vacation times
1h is far more realistic if traveling in June-August
>30 min train.
same as before, door to door that would be very short and not realistic unless you arrive somewhere like LCY

if you travel faster
good for you
but most people don't

>diversify your trip in a whole new region
ah found the issue
so you never traveled in Europe
because you don't need a flight for this
crossing the alps takes barely 2h by car and with a 5h drive you can leave literally any EU country

the only "diversifying" not possible are islands and something like Norway+Spain or similar combinations
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>>2899174
Still wrong even when traveling in Central Europe. Let’s say you want to go from Vienna to Krakow. That’s a 5-6h train vs a 1h flight. A net saving of 2-3 hours, not even factoring the train would also probably arrive at a terrible time at night vs the flight in the morning or afternoon

Here’s a newsflash for you: people don’t have time or care to see every country in Europe in every little town on some backpacking itinerary for a college kid. Even I with 7 weeks of vacation a year

This is an extremely typical mindset of Europeans here and globally; you are more arrogant and shortsighted than the worst American. All from a continent of the past that creates nothing anymore
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>>2895186
>Ireland: 4-5 days. Is Dublin the only thing worth it with this short amount of time or is it trash? Where else?
Please do spend time in Dublin.
t. Irish

Went there with my gf and ran out of things to show her after 2 days. Also if you're trying to avoid nonwhites it makes no sense to spend all your time in the region where they're concentrated.

Please go out west and enjoy the landscape



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