I can get $500pm for the rest of my life but I'm 45yo already. This payment will likely double and triple in years but what life can I live like this?I'm absolutely open to anything. I'm thinking of just permanently walking. Maybe walking across Europe to Asia. Maybe live in a commune (I have some skills).What can I do?
>walking across europe on 500Sure just get robbed and ethnically introduced to things in the middle of the night or on the street.>What can I do?Retire in Indonesia, vietnam, Cambodia.>Maybe live in a commune (I have some skills).No you don't communes aren't about skills anyways.500/mo is low, just work some BS job investing that 500/mo like you never had it until it's making proper returns for you or "double and tripled".
>>2896030This is pathetic and sad. Best you can do is live in a far flung province in PH in a concrete shack
@slumbro
>>2896032>Retire in Indonesia, vietnam, Cambodia.I can't just sit and rot. I have to be doing something exciting, bold, different.>500/mo is low, just work some BS job investing that 500/moThe $500/mo is just withdrawing from a liquid asset. I can do so for 50 years. I'll be dead before 95 ofc, just trying to be conservative. Doing a BS job and killing time is my plan so far. Looking for any more exciting options.
>>2896038>I can’t just sit and rot What the fuck else do you expect to do with $500 a month besides merely surviving? That’s enough to keep yourself alive lmao
>>2896039>What the fuck else do you expect to do with $500 a month besides merely surviving?Walk from Europe to Asia camping along the way. Cycle it maybe. Go live in the jungle. Volunteer teach in the Himalayas in Pakistan. There's loads of shit, you're just dumb.
>>2896042>Walk from Europe to Asia camping along the way. Cycle it maybe. Go live in the jungle. Volunteer teach in the Himalayas in Pakistan. There's loads of shit, you're just dumb.Wow, you already have the answer so go do it. What's the point of the thread?Real talk though, 500/mo won't get you too far. Lots of europe has introduced age limits on hostels to block "individuals" from getting in, so you're going to be camping (good luck I mean it) or paying for trash places to live. It might be possible to bike across Europe but you're not walking across it at 45 dude, 35? Sure 45? ha. You don't have the energy and 500/mo is probably break even on caloric intake to do that.500 is maybe what you would need to pay bribes in parts of your trek and china would simply laugh you off from entering.>I can't just sit and rot. I have to be doing something exciting, bold, different.Not on 500/mo you don't. You can be "bold" and "Different" in vietnam, not europe.
>>2896043>Wow, you already have the answer so go do it. What's the point of the thread?Ideas> Real talk though, 500/mo won't get you too far. Lots of europe has introduced age limits on hostels to block "individuals" from getting in, so you're going to be camping (good luck I mean it)I'd rather camp than stay in a hostel. I can stop along the way and WOOF or other volunteering when I get sick of camping. It's just one idea anyway, I'm not married to it. >500 is maybe what you would need to pay bribes in parts of your trekNo dude wtf. Lmao. You get shook down all the time in Africa not in Asia and I've been to most countries on the continent.>Not on 500/mo you don't. You can be "bold" and "Different" in vietnam, not europe.Yep. I'm not big on scraping through Europe semi homeless. That's why I'm looking for ideas.
>>2896042>Walk from Europe to Asia camping along the way.Okay so you're going to do this in 90 days on a budget of 1500 for 3 months? Carrying your gear the entire way? Dealing with the various levels of sleep you may get, bike that needs to be purchased and fixed up, and know enough of europe on where is considered free safe camping. RIght.>Go live in the jungleYeah dude it's so easy! Why doesn't everyone! Oh right because it fucking sucks with bugs, weather, and lack of necessities etc. What "jungle" do you plan to live in that SEA police won't see as a perfect opportunity to harass you for some cash?>Volunteer teach in the Himalayas in PakistanCult of Passion please take meds. No one cares about that, especially when missionaries will do it for literally free and pay the locals with food. Or just practice off foreigners for getting food.>There's loads of shit, you're just dumb.POWERFUL and BRAVE!Summer is halfway through, so unless you start doing this next week or two you're kinda fucked, then you get to the middle east which is LOL right now to trek so what's your plan? Go through the *stans? LMAO enjoy freezing to death. Then you get to china and then what? Unless you have a visa you at best have 30 days to get through it, this is not doable by "walking and biking". This also assumes each border security team just shrugs and lets you in and pass for free(not happening past turkey.>>2896050> I can stop along the way and WOOF or other volunteering when I get sick of campingLMAO look at this dude thinking he is 25 and worth a damn for working on a farm.
>>2896050>You get shook down all the time in Africa not in Asia and I've been to most countries on the continent.You dropped this king.
>>2896050>I can stop along the way and WOOF or other volunteering when I get sick of campingYou still have a 90 day visa limit in which you need to get out of the Schengen area, meaning any time you take a few weeks to "WOOF" for a meal and place to sleep, you 1) have to change your route to do it 2) assume it's actually something they want you for 3) not tire yourself out with whatever BS it is they have you do 4) make sure you can still get out under the visa limit.> I've been to most countries on the continent.Yeah but did you look like a fucking begpacker when you arrived at the border on a bike with a tent or did you come in via a plane through an airport where it showed up front you had good cash on you and went through drug screenings.A land border crossing is going to be way different if not in some group of people who got prechecked.
>>2896051Wow. Everything is so hard and impossible for you huh. You'll always be the loser. They are all right about you. You'll never 'show them'. Mindset issue.
>>2896054>You still have a 90 day visaI have an EU passport >Yeah but did you look like a fucking begpacker when you arrived at the border on a bike with a tentYou still don't pay $500 or anything on bribes. Take a seat on this one.
>>2896055Anon, I'm all for trying something "bold and new" but I do it with some level of security to fall back on at least in the financial sense. Hell I've been hiking all month here in SEA. I still know what real world limitations exist.500/mo to do what you want at 45 is not wise nor feasible especially the goals you set up. Could you walk/bike across Europe? Sure, save up for next summer with some BS job till then so you have a safety net for unexpected costs. But you said no to that. You also stretched your goal way to far forgetting the thing called the Middle East and it's fuckery going on. If you had 1000/mo? Wanted to do a bit of biking, use of buses, flights on the cheap across no go zones? Sure completely different conversation you have a lot more flexibility on things.>>2896056Are you actually retarded? That's not the fucking point you retard, paying a 100 or even 50 dollar bribe at one place is a huge chunk of your monthly budget meaning you have even less to survive off the throughout the month till the next 500 comes though. For being 45 you have the mental forethought of someone barely 25 who's first time moved out of mom and dads.>I have an EU passportThanks for not specifying that anywhere retard.>inb4 "forgot to mention I have 2m in savings btw" next
>>2896030I've been slow traveling for the past 9 months. Every month I've been sub $400 without really trying. India, China, and Taiwan I was able to find 3 month rentals sub $150. Malaysia was about $220. But you have to use local resources and be able to read the local language. Being a dumb monolingual retard will get you bankrupt faster than anything. Accommodation is the biggest expense and if you are smart on reducing that you can live basically anywhere. I wouldn't do the US on $500 without a house but I'm sure there's some niche town it's possible
>>2896059>Every month I've been sub $400 without really trying.You're not doing rentals in Taiwan for under 150/mo unless it's a 2x4 bed in the shittiest made hostel of 8 beds to a gutted apartment. I could see india and rural china being possible.Not sure how you managed to do sub 400/mo in Taiwan including food, board, and anything outdoors while maintaining a ~2000 kcal intake. You're a human skeleton aren't you.
>>2896057>>2896038>The $500/mo is just withdrawing from a liquid asset. I can do so for 50 yearsLike I said, I have liquid assets I can take as much or as little as I like. If there's an emergency, I just cash out more.I lived in the Middle East and travel led a lot if it, including Iraq, Lebanon etc. you have a immature/cartoonish understanding of baksheesh. Sit this one out little bro. Maybe after you've travelled there, ok? And stop going on about the Europe thing. It was one idea. You're starting to be annoying.
>>2896059Wow. Sub $500 in Taiwan is hard af. I'm actually in Taiwan rn and the accomodation prices are annoying af. But here we have the king of frugality proving whiny little faggots like >>2896057>>2896052>>2896034>>2896051wrong. You guys are nasty little twinks.
>>2896065>ACHKTUALLY you guys are all wrong see I've done it before without issue no problem it's a piece of cake kek!Ask was asked earlier, what's the point of this thread if you knew everything from the get go and been everywhere? Your OP posed the question what kind of life you would have, and when people told you 500/mo would be shit you now are a savant of everything ever. Your OP was shit thus most the posts you got are shit. MAYBE if you said you have 500 specifically for money to blow with a good asset backing you for emergencies or legs of the journeys that aren't feasible you'd get something better.500/mo, if that is your target to spend is still very low so your living quality will also be meager. If your looking to walk/bike/hike as your primary method of transportation you'll need to eat more to get from A->B, so we go in this loop of what you can actually do and afford to live on. If you said you wanted to NEET mode or just live in a comfy condo on 500, that's doable not walk europe to asia.>>2896066>But here we have the king of frugality proving whiny little faggots likeAnon "living" for <200 in taiwan is possible, just like "living" in Chian Mai in a place for 100/mo is; the reason most people don't do it is because it's often living rat den/shed life that sucks.
>>2896069>what's the point of this thread if you knew everything from the get go and been everywhere?>>2896050>IdeasWhy'd I have to tell you this again?>if u had mor muney dat wud be gudWow. Thanks. Never thought of it that way before
>>2896071okay for a budget of 500/mo you're going to be doing shoe string living.CampLearn to cook yourselfStudy local languages for places you intend to visit for possible dealsenjoy living on a shoe string budget that you get bored of after 2 monthsIt's warm outside what's stopping you from typing on the PC and going out right now to do this.
>>2896072I was looking for some creative ideas. You seem to be a follower/employee rather than a leader/employer. You likely are not relied upon to problem solve. You prefer being told exactly what to do. When you finish a job, you do nothing more because your assigned task is complete. You are not fully conscious. You're filling up this thread with 'i dunno' and 'everything's too hard'. Step outside yourself and let men who still have the spirit of our colonial ancestors speak.
>>2896063I just got here last week. My rent is 4700 ntd a month, at current exchange rates that's $145. It is in Kaohsiung near the city center, but in a poorer area with a lot of old people. 10 minutes from subway station by walking, about 20 minutes from Kaohsiung central station by walking. The room is big and I never saw a bug. It's just me and one other guy on the second floor, bathroom is common to us. The landlord lives on the first floor.Phone is about $5 a month. Gym is a big expense. In order to join, you have to pay a once per lifetime initiation fee of $50, so in total I will be paying $40/month on average over the course of these three months. But next time I come back it will be a more reasonable $20/month.Food is cheap here, transportation is cheap. I went on two dates today. The first one, a walk in a park, cost me $0, or I guess $1 in transportation fee because I took the subway instead of bike. The second one was longer and a bit more expensive. We went to the island by ferry and watched the sunset then had dinner for two at a local eatery. I even bought a whole pineapple for dessert, but she chipped in. Total cost for all of that was about $7. Ferry ride was $1, dinner was $5, pineapple was $1.I normally don't spend so much on women but she was only in town for tonight and she lives in the next city I'm moving to so it felt like a good investment.I was a bit of a skeleton at the beginning of these 9 months. I was coming out of a hard 8-10kg cut. But over the course of these 9 months I put on 10-12kg and am back 2kg heavier than before I started the cut. In a lot of countries I lived in I used milk as a crutch because it was subsidized but you can't really do that here. I expect to spend about $5 a day on food here and bulk up another 2-4kg over the course of these 3 months
>>2896072>It's warm outside what's stopping you from typing on the PC and going out right now to do this.You do know we're not all in the same place as you, right?Do a quick IQ test online and post a screenshot
>>2896075Wow. Very impressive.
>>2896066>Sub $500 in Taiwan is hard af. I'm actually in Taiwan rn and the accomodation prices are annoying af.Where are you? Being in Taipei vs somewhere else makes a big difference. If you can get someone to rent a 雅房 for you for three months that's the key. It took me aggressive searching to get my place for 4700. I even got sunburned riding one of those rental bikes around town looking for signs. But I found my place on 591 after 2-3 days of all day searching and texting
>>2896078I'm in Taoyuan. I'm paying $17,800 NTD for a room in a shared apartment. The apartment is in a brand new complex, so that's nice. But I just saw today cheaper rooms in nicer apartments in Taipei so I think I can do better. I got this one on Airbnb and then got a discount face to face. 4700 is crazy. It seems FB is the best place to look, right?
>>2896079Oh so you're doing one of the jeet apartments where someone spaced out 4 rooms for each person. That's not exactly hard, in Taoyaun
>>2896082No. It's a proper room. It's a 3 bedroom apartment with 3 people living here. One room has an en suite and me and another guy share a bathroom.
>>2896074Anon if your budget is targeted at 500/mo for everything, you are realistically limited on those things. Having anything other than free events in each city that come up is going to be a worthless suggestion because your budget is so strapped.You literally sound like a man child who doesn't have any forethought on these things, you're not a spring chicken either at 45 dude, meaning you're going to be slower than anyone attempting WOOF or volunteer work of which is IMPOSSIBLE to suggest because you don't even have a basic timeline or structure on this. You know when the best time for WOOF is? Coming right up in a month or two as crops need harvesting. Get to it porkchop.
>>2896087>You literally sound like a man child who doesn't have any forethought on these things>>2896050>IdeasYou made me tap the sign again
>>2896090You can't be given ideas because your goals, budget, and timeline are all completely out of touch with anyone in this thread. This reminds me more of someone who wants to day dream than actually do anything.No one knows your hobbies, language you speak, or country you are from because your OP was as basic as it gets. For all we knew you were a vet getting 500/mo, you can't convey anything here other than "I can do it, I'm a well versed traveler too btw." Great but you can't list some basic things you did to enjoy your past adventures to draw these ideas from? Seems like a no brainer here. For me I'd just like hiking, sight seeing, documenting old towns, fishing in streams, trying to take old war routes, enjoy local food etc. However, I also understand that doing that on a 500/mo budget comes with severe limitations in seasons, ability to keep ones energy up, and so on. Your thread is shit because you made a non informative OP and can't even list basic things that interest you but "just want ideas"; for all I know you like doing gloryholes which can be free so go gettem champ.Again unless you can list hobbies and things you like this all sounds like some random day dream larp thread of "Yeah could totally do anything, just need others to tell me".
>>2896075I'm north of there, I know Khaoshlung is cheap but it's not 150/mo cheap unless you're extremely lucky and fluent in local language; maybe if it doesn't include utilities and you're helping out around it's there but kinda finding this hard to believe.>Phone is about $5 a month.Cheapest plan I know of to keep a number abroad is still like 20USD/mo>Food is cheap here>Gym is a big expense.My gym here is Anytime, what kind of gym are you doing discount meats and shit? Even the leftover morning markets on food to hit proper protein goals and calories for any lifting is going to be at least 5-10 dollars a day if you're cutting it close. And thats with like those 10x100TND ramen packs for a base.Not saying this isn't possible but I would wonder what kind of life you plan to even enjoy with something like that or what kind of stuff you have to return home with after all that mess.
>>2896096Not reading all that. Why are you still replying? Do something else
>>2896079>I'm paying $17,800 NTD for a room in a shared apartment. The apartment is in a brand new complex, so that's nice. But I just saw today cheaper rooms in nicer apartments in Taipei so I think I can do better. I got this one on Airbnb and then got a discount face to face. 4700 is crazy. It seems FB is the best place to look, right?No you're getting ripped off. If you can't read Chinese idk what you can do. I used the site that native people use, https://rent.591.com.tw/Some anon here posted that his room in Taipei was 10k a month in that situation, off of facebook. I don't have an account there and they autoban me whenever I try to make one so idk. But you should be able to get a room easily for sub 10k in taoyuan, probably even around 5k. The place I'm in isn't new at all, it's visibly old, but it's in a good location and has no bugs or issues so i don't care
>>2896100This, that's about 550 USD which gets your own place unless your "apartment" is really just an airbnb. Even then you can get a private room in Taipei proper for that.
>>2896099Anon just go on Facebook, look at events, search city, sort by free. Done. Holy fuck you're a literal manchild, you won't even list the "skills" you hinted at in the OP or your hobbies. You're like those stereotypical no personality 40 something year old German guys who try to awkwardly fit in at the hostel when no one asked and they "think" they are still 20.
>>2896098>Phone is about $5 a month.>Cheapest plan I know of to keep a number abroad is still like 20USD/moThey tried to jew me at the phone store. If you're a foreigner they try to jew you with the unlimited data plan for travelers. But you can still get a prepaid plan. Mine is 300 ntd for 60 days, only 6gb of data but thats plenty. I dont doomscroll or watch slop outside the house>My gym here is Anytime, what kind of gym are you doing discount meats and shit? Even the leftover morning markets on food to hit proper protein goals and calories for any lifting is going to be at least 5-10 dollars a day if you're cutting it close. And thats with like those 10x100TND ramen packs for a base.Gym, I just chose the closest one next to me. For protein, nuts and eggs are your friend. They are dirt cheap. Packs of meat at the supermarket are sub 100 for chicken or pork. Avoid beef unless you buy frozen. Wet markets are even cheaper for fruit and vegetables and sometimes meat and fish but I haven't tried them yet. And if you are lazy you can always go to the convenience store after 8pm. A lot of stuff is marked down like 30% off. A couple of nights ago I got a sandwich, an onigiri, and a carton of milk tea for like $1.50. Kind of slop but I'm bulking anywayFor lifestyle everything I want to do is free or costs little money. During the day I listen to the radio, I watch TV, I read books from the library. All of this makes me better at Chinese which improves my social life here and makes me enjoy media more. Then at 4pm or so I go out and try to pick up girls until it gets dark. Then when nightfalls I go to the gym and after that come home. Maybe study some more or shitpost depending. Simple life but perfect imo
>>2896107>They tried to jew me at the phone store. If you're a foreigner they try to jew you with the unlimited data plan for travelers. But you can still get a prepaid plan. Mine is 300 ntd for 60 days, only 6gb of data but thats plenty. I dont doomscroll or watch slop outside the houseNo I mean to keep my US number active, I know you can get dirt cheap internet here in TW.>For protein, nuts and eggs are your friend.Yeah they are cheap but then you start incurring utilities, also you need fiber/veggies or you're bound to have a bad time.>Packs of meat at the supermarket are sub 100 for chicken or porkYeah I know, but they aren't that big.>Kind of slop but I'm bulking anywayUnless you're like 4'10" no way you are.Math is not mathing here anon.
>>2896032>Sure just get robbed and ethnically introduced to things in the middle of the night or on the street.It's the retarded /pol/cel who has never had a passport again.
>>2896103>still replying
>>2896109>No I mean to keep my US number active, I know you can get dirt cheap internet here in TW.Oh I didnt bother with that shit. I just let my number expire. You can get a plan with tello for like $2 a month or something I think at minimum. When I was in the US I was only paying like $6 / month for data + phone with them and I know it can go lower
>>2896100>>2896101Damn. I thought I was doing good since that's about $17 per day and the cheapest hotel or guesthouse in Taoyuan is like $30. I'm gonna use that website and Google translate. Now I'm on Facebook at least that's better
>>2896122Anon even Airbnb can give you a place near Ximen for 550.>>2896121Yeah that sounds ghetto life, happy you're happy tho
>>2896122>the less money and shittier conditions you can endure, the better you’re doing I see we’ve stumbled on the “broke fucking loser” Olympics thread
>>2896137/trv/ always tries to win the brokefag Olympics for some reason. 550 isn't bad but you could be in around central staton without living in what essentially is a 3br apartment with roommates.
>paypigs entered the chat
>>2896199>im threatened by people that leverage money to actually enjoy their lives instead of fucking shambling around other peoples neighborhoods pinching pennys eating rat meat stew when I can do that in my own fucking country
>>2896226>fat boomer wasted decades of his life slaving for jews, which turned him retarded>leverages his retardation by getting ripped off in the third worldif you hate life die young already, boomer
>>2896228Uh I’m 35 retard. Nice cope.>ripped offYea I’m pretty sure shelling out $60 for a 19 year old is a literal steal considering I’m American
is this a weirdly arrogant human or an ai that has been instructed to give cheeky responses no matter how patient, friendly and helpful the answers like from this anon here >>2896069 are?
>>2896231>shelling out $60 for a 19 year oldI get the same thing for free again
>>2896233Doesn’t matter lol I have no ego I have to plump up. I got pussy for free all my teens and 20s. Happy to shell out
>>2896232>Someone was mean to this person who definitely isn't meBubbie is butthurt by words yet tells me how to navigate the middle east
>>2896240>Bubbie is butthurt by words yet tells me how to navigate the middle eastI actually stumbled reading this and it makes me eyes ache just a little. It's like a foreign language I just couldn't understand for a second.What a strange sentence.
>>2896241>paypig>illiteratename a more iconic duo
>>2896030>$500pmAssuming that means USD per month, you won't get shit anywhere in the world. At least not anywhere you want to be.
>>2896619you talk like a fag and your shits all retarded
>>2896030On a strict $500/month budget, a lavish lifestyle isn't possible, but you can live a nomadic, simple, or highly self-sufficient life if you move to a country with a very low cost of living. You will need to embrace a minimalist lifestyle, rent a private room. Sad.
