Asia>check in 3PM>show up at 2:30>"sorry no check in till 3. We can set your luggage in the lobby :) sorry no room to sit anywhere here"USA>Check in listed 3PM>show up at 2>"yeah we can let you in for free now we have a room ready">show up before noon>"yeah you can just chill in the lobby with your PC till we have a room ready after 12"This really shouldn't annoy me as much as it does, why the fuck are they like this?
>>2897657>he doesn’t just book a room for 1-2night at some 24 hour dingbat inn that allows him to have a place to stay until he can check in.If you go through this situation and don’t resolve forever after to do the aforementioned I have no sympathy
>>2897660>just spend more money broNo.
>>2897662>just spend more money bro>No.Cheapchads won again
>>2897662>>2897687Ok have fun puttering around in the scorching heat to kill time like a dumb farm animal LOL
>>2897697>missing the point of the OP this hardinb4 "merely pretending"
>>2897657last year in China I moved between several hotels and they all had a 2PM check in, I almost always showed up an hour or two early and they've always given me the room on the spot with no issue
OP clearly hasn't traveled much. How early you can check in depends on the hotel, availability of rooms, and luck. I have been able to check into my room before noon plenty of times.
>>2897716politly you have not been to asia.japan will not lock you check in while youre up for 30 hours....would know i slept in the floor of a bathroom of the train station waiting for my shit to be ready...
>>2897729I comment on Japan but I've never had a problem with it in SE Asian, India or Nepal.
>stay at poverty boxes with lobbies no larger than a toilet>surprised that there's no proper reception areaYou can easily solve this problem by booking bigger and more expensive hotels.
>>2897729>...would know i slept in the floor of a bathroom of the train station waiting for my shit to be ready...that's disgusting. should have just took a nap in the park or something. or buy onsen
>>2897657This is the exact opposite of my experience
>>2897701He doesn’t have a point except for being a spendthrift rat to his detriment >>2897734Based “big spender” tourist QRDing the K shaped accommodation economy Spendthrift ferrets get to soak up the sun in discomfort while “big bookers” are ushered seamlessly into their rooms with grace and candor
>>2897795same here anonalso i have always found that hotels in asia are much more likely to agree to late checkouts
>>2897729Granted I was maybe 30-60 mins before the check in time, but I've been to several places in Japan that let me check in early. At the very least all the places I've been to let me leave my baggage for safekeeping, allowing me to do whatever during the day.
>>2897657>pic relatedAPA is a low-end, substandard chain, like the rest of the "business hotel" category of Toyoko, Sun Route, Super Hotel, etc. in Japan that local wagecucks are sent to when they have work travel. Even Marriott has adapted to the local market in Japan, with brands like Four Points (nee by Sheraton) Flex and City Express (yes the chain from Mexico that only earns 1/2 elite qualifying nights) brought in to compete in this category.When you stop being poor and travel like a normal person, or better yet as a guest with hotel status, I've never had a problem with early check-in or late check out (where available, availability permitting, outside specific markets where everything is upsold by convention like Las Vegas, etc.)Also, be aware that this business is subject to seasonal demand, high and lows based on availability, and operations will respond accordingly. If you're not a moron and recognize how the industry and specific business works in general, if you really want something then pay for it, etc., everything makes perfect sense and you're getting exactly what you paying for.
>>2897790i wandered around tokyo until i could handle it anymore. i dont trust being a weird looking white in an empty downtown tokyo to not be heckled about why i didnt have room...but it isnt bad. ive slept in a private bathroom in bergen norway waiting for my train back to oslo before. i was going to camp in the higway offramp but i set up my bag and a huge truck saw me so i walked back to the station, paid the 1 euro to unlock the door, unplugged its mechanism and propped up a mat on this ledge in there...
>>2897657That's not my experience in Asia. Asian hotels mog North American hotels into the grave.
>>2897936>i wandered around tokyo until i could handle it anymore. i dont trust being a weird looking white in an empty downtown tokyo to not be heckled about why i didnt have room...if it was during the day it would have been fine. at night idk
>>2897929You've never been to Japan
>>2897662Then fucking show up at the standard check-in time, what's so hard about that. You stay at cheap hotels, you'll have to cope with their cheapness. Most cheap hotels I stayed in India had 12 pm check-in times. They barely even clean the rooms, often remaking the bed instead of changing anything. Toilet gets a wipe with the same wet cloth used to wipe the sink. A little sweeping and you're all set.
>>2897936That's disgusting. Slumping in a shitting stall like a strung out junkie and fucking with the workings. People who vandalize public bathrooms should get waterboarded with diarrhea slurry.
>>2897729It sounds like you've been to Asia exactly once and your experience comes from a single cheapo hotel. I have been able to check in early in plenty of hotels in many different Asian countries. Then again I'm not a poorfag so I stay in nice ones. At worst, I can still leave my luggage with them while they get my room ready.
>>2897929I love Super Hotel. It's so Japanese. It's also often at convenient locations. No frills, and no early checkin possibility, but it's good value for money.
>>2897969APA has cramped ass rooms. The only people who think it's anything but a cheap low-middle end hotel also thinks Tamago Sando are some incredible meal.
>>2897997branging about money to strangers unprimpted is a sign of not having as much as you posture to. definitive trait of somebody who didnt grow up with wealth class.
>>2898002It’s not bragging when normieanons are just staying normally compared to hostel scum like you at the bottom of the barrel hotels. Shit like you get the shit quality you deserve (rightfully so)
Don’t stay in cheap hotels. I’ve checked in early multiple times in Japan.
>>28980153rd grade sentence.
>>2897657Where the hell did you go in Asia? >>Arrived in Osaka before noon>>Sorry, the room's not cleaned yet, but would you like to check in now and come back later? We can take care of your luggage>>Went to chill around Osaka>>Comes back at 2pm, get my card. >>My luggage is already in my room
>>2898034Exactly the same thing with me in Osaka, including having my luggage in my room when I came back to check in. Strange, cause it's never happened in any other city in Japan whenever I've dropped off my luggage early.
I always book flights that arrive at 9am in Tokyo, so I'm at the hotel at about 11am. They almost always let me have a room immediately. Although I dont stay in cheap business hotels
>>2898106>>2898091I think we figured it out. I had OP's experience, but it was shitty business hotel each time.
>>2897929I know what APA are but I find them comfy enough. The two I went to have bath house with spa and sauna, there's buffet breakfast, conbini in their building, plus they have free porn on their TV
>>2897657APA Hotels in Tokyo are notorious for being used by SEA prostitutes, especially trans. If you stay at APA in roppongi you will see trans escrots a lot and randoms gong in and out
>>2898107I usually try to get a room that's under $100 (CAD) per night, and the one in Osaka was one of them. I dunno, I can't remember which hotel it was so maybe it technically wasn't a "business hotel", but the room and price sure felt like one.
>>2898230>used by SEA prostitutes, especially transNoted. Thanks for the tip.
>>2897657Take a shower at the airport (the one in Haneda is great), then just leave your luggage at the hotel and go with your day.
>>2898034Why can't they just let you into a room 1hr early like in the USA
>>2898320Because they actually clean the room, unlike in the US.
>>2898323>1 hour means all 100s of rooms are now instantly clean rather than the same room you booked that was cleaned at 8amOkay anon
>>2898015>>2898026>>2898034Cheap rat OP continually and effortlessly getting smoked by big spenders
>>2898327What the fuck? Check out time in Japan is standard at 1000hr unless you're staying at more expensive places.If they have empty clean rooms at 8am then business isn't good.
>>2898371anon APA's have no shows, people checking out at 5am-8am that staff is told to clean first.You are retarded if you do't think they have rooms open at 2PM, but magically have them open at 3
>>2898333The things is hotel in Japan don't cost that much. Pay double the price of APA, and you get comfy room sizes, a bathroom that's not cramped, later check out times, and hotel reception that's fluent in English. You don't have to pay big money to stay in Hilton's or something.
>>2898378APA is higher quality and those hotels for obese Americans at twice the price have the same check-in time anyway
>>2898320My take is: it's what is written in the rule book and what the staff was instructed to do.If this is the price to pay for on time public transport then so be it.
>>2897657as everyone has already mentioned, this is a poor people problem. i've checked in as early as 1030am and check out as late as 4.30pm. that being said, this has never happened in Japan. I think theyre really strict on timings, even if it's low season and rooms are available.
>>2898378Why do you need a large hotel room? You should only be in your room to shit shower or sleep. I dont understand this obsession with space. APA hotels are top tier cleanliness, ammenties and services. Nothing lacking
>>2898481>Why do you need a large hotel room? You should only be in your room to shit shower or sleep. I dont understand this obsession with space.Exactly. If I can I just filter by size and only choose the rooms less than 10m2. Small rooms are more comfy and feel better to sleep in
>>2898484Also I dont understand the anon calling APA cheap, its 100 a night any time of the year unless youre in Japan in the middle of July. Is that poorfag price now? Unless you are legitimately a millionare with infinite money to blow, there is serious diminishing returns to paying double that for a room anywhere in Japan.When Im in Japan Im there for 4 or 5 weeks, thats 3k just for hotel, if that makes me a poorfag then most travelers must be in abject poverty
>>2898496$100 a night is poverty tier. $300-$500 a night is middle class. Somewhere solid like the Park Hyatt is going to run $800 to $1000.
>>2898538This has to be the most out of touch shit ive ever read
>>2898538>$300-$500 a night is middle class.Get a fucking job you bum. Anything below $600 is borderline unlivable.
>>2898378Goes to show just how poor the scum that come on here asking for hostel advice are. Truly low value males that can't even afford a normal hotel in in one of the cheapest markets with favorable exchange rate. They are beyond help and I would leave them to their squalor.>>2898379If you want to play up the "it's Japan" like the weeaboo you, visit anything ranked higher than APA in Japan and you can see the same difference. It does not take a genius to (even a moron like you can) see that APA is strictly worse (math meaning) than any other higher tier competitor because APA in ON PURPOSE a low quality product for the low-end and is priced accordingly. If you weren't such a loser back home, your Japanese colleagues will tell you APA as a chain and its ilk are categorically bad and that's how even Japanese people thinks of them. You have to be one of those morons marveling at Japanese convenience stores to actually think it's a desirable place to stay at.>>2898496APA is cheap in quality, but is actually very aggressive in revenue management (yield). Toyoko, Sun Route, Super Hotel, etc. all sell the same junk product, but operators like Toyoko sells it for the same price almost every night. APA is less moronic, and actually runs modern day yield management programs that sets prices high when in-demand, and low when no demand. YMMV what you pay when you book, but the cheap low-end product remains the same (akin to paying full-fare economy prices but getting a low cost carrier seat).
>>2898546You have never been to an in-demand destination (and are poor). Deal with it.Some examples around the world: Hawaii is regularly $300-$500/night, French Polynesia starts at $800 to $1000/night. it's funny, you can actually pay $100 a night in Hawaii... for a capsule hotel.
>>2898496>Also I dont understand the anon calling APA cheap, its 100 a night any time of the year unless youre in Japan in the middle of July. Is that poorfag price now? Unless you are legitimately a millionare with infinite money to blow, there is serious diminishing returns to paying double that for a room anywhere in Japan.>When Im in Japan Im there for 4 or 5 weeks, thats 3k just for hotel, if that makes me a poorfag then most travelers must be in abject povertyIt's just normie retards trying to measure dicks with each other, the wagies who travel for 2 weeks a year only and have to cope by spending infinite money to make it "good"I'm renting a room in Taiwan for $150 a month, you can rent a room in a sharehouse in Japan easily for sub-$250 a month if you speak a little japanese>>2898546Just do reductio ad absurdum and move on. There's no point in engaging with it honestly
>>2898552>You dont get scammed out of your money like baby boomer cattle at worthless resort destinations, ergo youre a poor fag!I spend 3 or 4 months out of the year traveling. I have no desire to ever be in Hawaii or Polynesia. There are millions of miles of coastline in the world and a million other more interesting places to be
>>2898558There's world of difference between those of us status-holding wagecucks (airline, hotel, etc.) who stay at nice properties and travel with some dignity because we are worth enough to be paid for this way, and scum slumming it in 3rd world shitholes being unemployed and/or doing meaningless bullshit. Please stick to your shitholes such that we may never have to see your kind
>>2898559Imagine being proud of slaving for jews LMAo get a load of this fucking goy. You work 70 hour weeks to have the privilage of spending your 2 weeks of free time a year at boomer resorts BWAHAHAHAHA. Im genuinely more productive to society being a psuedo expat perpetually abusing financial aid to stack worthless fine art degrees than you are slaving away trying to make number go up BWAHAHAHA everyone laugh at this retard
>>2898559>living in Cheras in KL in a room that cost $220 a month>hook up with Korean girl>she's a WFH cuck who lives in a glitzy hotel near KLCC>in the hotel lobby the morning after>all of the paypig wagecucks looking at me like an alien while I'm speaking korean in the lobbyWe intersect more often than you think. I see you fat dumb faggits waddling around speaking English whenever I go downtown, now I'm in Kaohsiung living a 20 minute walk away for 1/30th of your price. On one hand I'm embarrassed by your presence, on the other hand it's reassuring to see such lesser subhumans and to be reminded of the life I avoided.
>>2898563based
>>2898565This is a King>>2898559This is a peasant
>>2898565>live in SEA shithole>geomaxxing incel>seething at people of meansSums up /trv/ in a nutshell
>>2898563If you want to accumulate debt and flee the US, do so. The scam is old as hell and “bust outs” are a well known risk for lenders. Why do zoomers think everything was invented yesterday?
>>2898552If you want to play up the "it's Japan" like the weeaboo you, visit anything twice the price of APA in Japan and you can see the same difference. It does not take a genius to (even a moron like you can) see that APA is strictly better (math meaning) than any other higher tier competitor because APA in ON PURPOSE a high quality product for experienced travellers and the chain hotels charging normgroid cattle weeaboos twice as much for the low-end non luxury ( and is priced accordingly to rip you off). If you weren't such a loser back home, your Japanese colleagues will tell you APA as a chain and its ilk are categorically the best and that's how even Japanese people thinks of them. You have to be one of those morons marveling at Japanese convenience stores to actually think it's a bad place to stay at.>>2898496 #APA is cheap in quality, but is actually very aggressive in revenue management (yield). Toyoko, Sun Route, Super Hotel, etc. all sell the same junk product, but operators like Toyoko sells it for the same price almost every night. APA is less moronic, and actually runs modern day yield management programs that sets prices high when in-demand, and low when no demand. YMMV what you pay when you book, but the cheap low-end product remains the same (akin to paying full-fare economy prices but getting a low cost carrier seat).
>>2898602What debt? After spending 4 years in an air conditioned office doing jack all with my thumb up my ass I became a "disabled veteran" and get paid 50k a year for the rest of my life and another 40 - 60k a year to stay in schoolIll debt max later in 5 or 7 years when I get bored . Where did I say I invented anything? Im just pointing out that being a pathetic goy slave is actually less human than being a leech
>>2898600>if you laugh it's a seetheback to work, employim
>>2898607Worthless rodent. You should be taken out
>>2898639Keep working harder for the jew goy. Keep climbing the corporate ladder and sacrificing everything to do it, all the while knowing your tax money is directly funding my watercolor classes and japanese escorts to suck my dick
Japan is excellent because they enforce standards APA is excellent because they enforce standards It's that shrimple folx
Another /trv/ thread filled with seething poorfag losers desperate to have sex in Asia. Board is an embarrassment.
>>2898704>angry squealing noises
>>2898607>spending 4 years in an air conditioned office doing jack all with my thumb up my ass I became a "disabled veteran" and get paid 50k a year for the rest of my life and another 40 - 60k a year to stay in school>>2898563>being a psuedo expat perpetually abusing financial aid to stack worthless fine art degreesHoly fuck LOL that's amazing
>>2898704>reeeeee
>>2898707>>2898712t. Sleeping in a hostel again on his sexpat adventures
>>2898740I'm sleeping in a $145 room in Taiwan. $145 a month. I'm living on like $8 a day. And yes I had sex last night.
>>2898704Incels are like that, they want so desperately to have something ( that's not a big deal anyway )spending 16 hours per day on incel blogs seething about Chad and then read oh in Asia you can have sex. Spend a year planning the trip asking can I have sex in x city every thread, big day comes boom no sex you are the same incel in Asia you were in Dubuque Iowa. Fix yourself first kids otherwise you are wasting your time
>>2898795Wtf. That's impressive. Even the latter is because of the former. How did you find a room at that price? What's it look like? Are you sleeping with cockroaches?>And yes I had sex last night.I was lying on the floor and I faintly heard some high pitched moans of a woman somewhere to remind me that everyone is except me lmao. I really need to go outside and actually interact with someone.>>2898740Nope. I'm in an Airbnb condo. It's so comfy and quiet it's become a trap for rotting and "recovery." I've been here three weeks and have done hardly fuck all. Regrettably, honestly.
Official /trv/ hotel pricing>25-50Good if you're on your first holiday abroad and favorable exchange rate in a place like Thailand with the lads>50-100poors travel, don't tell anyone you're actually doing this but maybe it is a hidden gem>100-150barely acceptable for average male, especially if you're in uni days and taking a trip down to Germany or something for Oktoberfest>150-200lowest tier allowed for having a woman proper over>200-250Sweet spot for most budget friendly hotels no need to make up about where you are staying whilst on holiday>250-300decent average price for any adult male>350+where you should be aiming for, you'll be actually able to enjoy your stay and share photos of it without shame
>>2898819Why type something so dumb, a nice 3 - 4 star hotel can be had outside Western shitholes for $30-$100....$40-$60 is typical including breakfast
>>2898704Show face LOL
>>2897657So this is like this everywhere in Asia? Or is this anecdotal?
>>2898859East Asia, you know smart civilized people
>>2897929>When you stop being poor and travel like a normal person, or better yet as a guest with hotel status, I've never had a problem with early check-in or late check outIt sounds like you're just staying at the foreign hotel brands, though? Which I do as well, but they were always going to be more flexible with early and late checkout. Are the actual Japanese hotels better at accommodating early and late checkout?
>>2898819Do you travel so you can share pictures of your hotel like some boomer?
I stayed at a few Seibu Prince hotels and it felt very bougie. Shiomi was nice and quiet in Tokyo
