>>2897761
USA
>houses in the midwest are cheaper than virtually anywhere in europe
>high pay for menial jobs
>gibs like free food, phones plans, healthcare, and tax breaks if you just keep yourself making low pay
>make everyone else seethe

>>2897786
no bitchez coper

Probably Tuvalu.

Appalachia

>>2897761
Safe, stable, warm, comfy. Maybe Singapore and then travel to SEA for more fun. I feel that a place like Japan would get too alien and depressing if you stay there long. Europe would be nice but I don't foresee a good future for it.

If you're rich Socal, Scottsdale, southern Florida,Hawaii, Singapore, Sydney, Goldcoast, Brisbane

If you're poor SEA, Brazil, Mexico, Argentina

Europe is in between and I feel like there's only two countries that resist a full on impending doomsday depression, that is spain and poland. Bonus points for social life and weather in spain, bonus points for homogenous safe coherent "good ol times" society in Poland. Minus points in spain for immigrant issues and taxes, minus points in Poland for harsh winters and being sandwiched between the successor of the golden horde and a country that is on the path of self destruction and pulling everyone into it while falling off the cliff.

Tokyo. Simple as

>>2897761
Martha's Vineyard seems great, but i don't know how the people or the food are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRXUFRjz01M

>>2897786
Correct overall. Still can save enough to travel on a yearly basis. Only people not being able to do so are very fucking stupid(with money) or socially anxious spergs.

>>2898123
t. babby's first trip abroad to japan was sooooo fun

>>2898175
I've been to 45 countries and visited Tokyo 12 times. I'm sorry you haven't lived

>>2898200
I have lived and Tokyo is the most depressing place to live

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>>2898204
>different people like different things and different places

>>2898204
Depends on where you live. I'd happily live in Edogawa city or in the less crowded parts of Asakusa.
But if it's living in a shitty studio in Chiba, no.

As usual, what's important is money.

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>>2898211
I look like this and react like this.

>>2897761
>But if you had to pick one to settle in forever (other than your own), where would you choose?
depends on how much money I have and if I have to earn it myself

if I had 10million€ to spend on housing, top options are definitely
>Munich
>Vienna
>San Francisco
maybe Zürich, Copenhagen, Sydney, London or Singapore (although 10 million might not be enough there)
If I need to make my own money
Munich is a pretty shit option
but Zürich goes to No.1, maybe other US cities and London is more attractive

contrary to this board I didn't like Tokyo / Osaka as much to live in it
and I loved ~3 years in San Francisco (granted I had a really good job, so most typical US problems didn't affect me)

>>2898215
Bruh what are you smoking this isn't the 2000s anymore, whole DACH region including vienna is destined for economic and social depression, including civil instability. I'd recommend this region to nobody.

>>2898245
>whole DACH region including vienna is destined for economic and social depression
if you say so, must be true then...

there are currently massive suburbanization trends in Germany and Austria, similar to Japan
the main cities will grow and flourish for the next few decades
if any of those cities goes into depression, it will be only because of the whole world is collapsing

neighborhoods like
>Munich Herzogpark
>Vienna Cottageviertel
are literally some of the most beautiful, most livable places on earth
there is not a single downside living there if you own a home there

>including civil instability
>>>/pol/
into your containment thread
because there is absolutely no evidence for this
if you would've said Berlin, unlikely but may, but definitely not Munich nor Vienna

>>2898215
>>Munich
>>Vienna
>>San Francisco
>maybe Zürich, Copenhagen, Sydney, London or Singapore
Just because it's expensive doesn't mean its good
>and I loved ~3 years in San Francisco
West Coast cities are the best in America imo but they get shit on because of /pol/ memes about them voting blue. SF is cool but my personal favorite is Seattle

>>2898260
Lmao I live in vienna
It's official statistic that the biggest religion of children at school in vienna nowadays is Islam (over 40%)
More than half of the year you only work to pay taxes
The country hasn't seen any economic growth in years
There has been a considerable uptick in crime from third world migrants especially stabbings, raping and killing of young women and girls
You can't go out without seeing veiled women everywhere in vienna
Politicians don't intend to change a thing and just feed of ridiculous taxes to feed their pensions and get corrupt side gigs while they'll monitor every penny the lower class makes
The industry is dying off and sold to foreign investors
The country is basically rotting inside out and then there's clowns like you still thinking it's all right wing propaganda while completely disregarding common sense

>>2898261
>Just because it's expensive doesn't mean its good
OPs question was very personal
I like living in cities with very good infrastructure, lots of cultural offerings (access to museums, concerts etc.), plenty green spaces inside, but also while being close to Nature
this combination usually makes cities expensive

>West Coast cities are the best in America imo
i liked boston as well, never lived in it though
but generally agree

>but they get shit on because of /pol/ memes about them voting blue
also because dense american cities have some social problems and it's worse the more you're priced out
infrastructure and access to the nice parts also really varies depending on where you live

like we had a really nice townhouse near the presidio
which was like $7k/month even back in 2016
but other than the price, this was all I ever would want from my living location

>>2898270
>Lmao I live in vienna
Post name, phone number, passport, address, mother's maiden name and blood type with timestamp

>>2897761
>if you had to pick one to settle in forever
Anywhere I drop dead is fine.

>>2898127
You sound like a career cuck with a stable high-paying job who takes your pay for granted and "travels" for two weeks a year.

Establishment costs are high in the USA, especially if you need to buy a car and get a new apartment in a good-paying area after extended time overseas. It could be 6 months of being the most pathetically slavish wagie eating beans and ramen before you come in even one dollar ahead of where you were financially when you first touched down on American soil.

>>2898300
>Establishment costs are high in the USA, especially if you need to buy a car and get a new apartment in a good-paying area after extended time overseas. It could be 6 months of being the most pathetically slavish wagie eating beans and ramen before you come in even one dollar ahead of where you were financially when you first touched down on American soil.
If you move to a big walkable city you will be ahead within a month. You put down $1600 (1 months rent for a room = $800, + 1 months deposit)

Then you hit up the temp agencies. They onboard you the next day and have you working the day after. You might have to buy some pants or shoes or whatever from TJ Maxx etc for $20

Then you'll be making about $150-300 a day, give or take. Grab work whenever you want, you can tryhard and do all 7 days or you can chill and only work a couple of days a week. And then you network with the other temp wagies and find out about the current events and opportunities / the other jobs they know about etc. And if you are good the places you temp at ask for your contact and consistently request you or try to poach you. Then you basically sell your labor to the highest bidder that day. you wake up at 7am and hit up your agent and see if he has anything good, if he does you go to it if not you keep other jobs as your backup

You can be back above water in two weeks, and have a five figure nest egg after 6 months if you do this

>>2898300
You are stupid, and not only with money. Zoomers are STUPID, can't do basic cooking nor budget, let alone understand their "working" class place in the world, thus expecting a "new apartment" in a "good paying area" while being a barista/warehouse/retail worker. It's like you completely missed the mark on purpose. Why do you think spics and jeets easily adjust? They lower their living expectations. Whitey can live in a motel type apartment and it won't drastically worsen their life, maybe even stop them from haording useless plastic shit with no resell value.
Americans in those 2 weeks abroad have more buying power and can replenish their savings within months. Gayropeans can't even save enough in a year to go to USA for said 2 weeks and are on a shoestring budget at best. If both go to Thailand, guess who has more money?

>>2898300
Oh, in (western)Gayrope, 2k a month is a good wage for a working class subhuman 24k a year. While paying rent, which is slightly less than in US. Where gas and electricity is more expensive than in the US.

>>2897761
>Yes you've traveled to 1000 different places.
Yes, probably close to that
>pick one to settle in forever (other than your own)
If I actually had to settle somewhere probably Buenos Aires, but I actually just move around all year based on the season
>Why?
I greatly prefer European style walkable cities, but most large cities in Western Europe that have the conveniences I want (late night shops/restaurants, good transit, warmer weather, fine selection of whores) are packed with tourists or other undesirable foreigners which kills the vibe, and in Eastern Europe the people are much colder than I'm used to.

>>2898053
>If you're rich
>southern Florida
Tried it, didn't like it, drivers are retarded, people are too jaded, everything is crowded
>Singapore
Didn't hate it, didn't love it, lived in Asia before and I guess I have a little bit of fomo if I'm away from western culture long term and I find find dating women that aren't at least white-ish unsatisfying
>Sydney, Goldcoast, Brisbane
Anglo libs are the most insufferable people in the world, but I guess I can't rule those out since I haven't been there
>Scottsdale
What's the selling point? I've hear of it, and that the women are attractive, but it seems like it's best for people that are limited to the US. Also, isn't it an oven?

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>>2898272
Europe's a shithole that killed itself.

>>2898352
I wholeheartedly agree. Brown people are incredible. Mexicans, Indians, and the South Sudanese are the KWEENs of finance.

>>2898352
>Gayropeans can't even save enough in a year to go to USA for said 2 weeks and are on a shoestring budget at best. If both go to Thailand, guess who has more money?
euros have one month + PTO so they dont even need to save. They're getting paid while they're off. Mutts have two weeks off unpaid and the boss gets snarky if you actually use it, especially all two weeks at once

>>2898384
Yeah gayrapedpeons get a month off but cant afford to leave their commieblocks so they go to a local park and take pictures of the African drug dealers and post it on instafag and say they vacationed in rwanda

>>2898356
>in Eastern Europe the people are much colder than I'm used to.
not sure if you've given Eastern Europe enough chance, but in my experience they are kind of "superficially cold": they seem cold which may be offputting if you're used to Southern European or American style friendliness, but they warm up to you quickly once you make an effort to get through the initial layer of Eastern Europeanness.

now I kinda prefer that to the often fake pleasantries you receive in some other places.

>>2898404
literally everywhere you go in the world is filled to the brim with europeans, so you may just have no idea what the fuck you're talking about

>>2897761
Manly, NSW, Australia

>>2897761
I'd probably do Adelaide Australia, though I've never been there; I've just heard good things about it, and would love to start life over by relocating to the other side of the world. US is very materialistic and anti social.

>>2898406
All the ones i meet are libtards, buck broken, too poor to have kids literally vacationing wherever they can get a $29 flight

>>2898420
have you considered the possibility that you are only vacationing in places where poor people go

>>2897802
>340 million people
>"UHHH NO BITCHES LMAO"
sure anon

>>2898303
>You put down $1600 (1 months rent for a room = $800, + 1 months deposit

Maybe in 2006, but that was 20 years ago. Prices have doubled or tripled while wages are the same or less.

>>2898495
There's none in rural midwest. In the US only the foreign women are good and only the cities have them
>>2898516
I'm not talking about a standalone 1br apartment, I'm talking about $800 for a room in a sharehouse, that's the current price

Ireland, if it didn't have Irish winter.

Ideal would be to spend winters in Belize or maybe Portugal, summers in Ireland. But the rules of the thread say one place, so Belize, unless I suddenly decided Portugal at the last minute.

>>2898405
They never warmed up to me period. Eastern Europeans are second only to Chinese for coldness and indifferent detachment.

>>2898303
>$150-300 per day for a non-specialized laborer with no personal transport at a temp agency
Post receipts or I call bullshit. You're gonna be making about $14/hr after tax, that's $112 per workday. Stop exaggerating how high wages are in the USA for a hire who has spent the last year or two traveling.
>>2898352
$112 per day is literally 20x what jeets make in India. Even if they only save 25%, they've still 10x the money they can send back home. Of course they will be so stoked by these admittedly shitty figures that nothing else will bother them or dampen their enthusiasm.
>motel style apartment
Only $359 + tax per week! Sorry no hotplates, enjoy your microwave dinners. What a bargain!

Unlike you, I'm actually boots on the ground in America inquiring about temp work and affordable lodging with everything I own slung over my shoulders. So far I'm not liking what I'm seeing.

If you're able to choose which county you live in, you win 9/10th of the time.
If you're unable to choose which country you live in, you lost 9/10ths of the time.
Whatever sacrifices you make to remain socially and economically mobile, trivial, it's the only way to get a value-proposition, the carrot instead of the stick. And after you take the carrot you better expect the stick to follow.

The migrant is a dog thrown from their own home, tail between their legs, eating scraps. An expat is like the ceo of a one man company

>>2898583
There's a huge difference between national and international labour markets.

National markets with a high minimum wage attract a billion migrant applications, but the competition is all in the national market, not a single one of those billion national workers (national of either county) can compete in the international market. Not one. Zero.

The higher performing firm in Sweden hired the highest performing employee/contractor. Having a Swedish passport, or being a jeet willing to work unpaid doesn't mean shit. They are paying for skills you just don't have.

And international employers have very different demands to national employers, national employees will just get sent straight back to the airport or their home towns, if you're not prepared to accept international employment obligations, stay in the national workforce- or get sent back to it.

And that's why the billion Indians, and billion Chinese are only a threat to national work forces. They simply don't have anything international employers want. A billion people, of collectively zero industrial value. And that's why international employers even exist, they do things national businesses just can't. I wouldn't say either is strictly better or worse but the international market pays 5 times more in salary, upfront, tax free, in any currency.

>>2898583
>Post receipts or I call bullshit. You're gonna be making about $14/hr after tax, that's $112 per workday.
In Seattle, where min wage is $21.30? In NYC, where wages effectively start at $20? You cucked yourself in the dying rural areas that have no jobs and no competition for wages. NYC temp agency was $24/hr last year, flipping burgers at the Mets stadium was $20/hr and anyone could get in anytime, they took in a homeless black guy with a maga hat the same day I interviewed. US Open was $21/hr and gave me 60+ hours a week for a month
>Unlike you, I'm actually boots on the ground in America inquiring about temp work and affordable lodging with everything I own slung over my shoulders. So far I'm not liking what I'm seeing.
You are getting raped financially because you are attached to the Platonic ideal of being a vagabond more than you care about efficiently making money. If you were serious about maximizing your freedom you would make money as quickly as possible, and only the big cities offer you the opportunity to do that

>>2897761
Hawaii

Man out of all the places the Army sent me that was easily the best spot. I was a total beach bum extraordinaire. Driving the Kam highway was always a blast. Lots of beautiful hikes.

Cost of living would be ass though without Uncle Sam footing the bill. Maybe if I'm a rich one day.

>>2897761
I would buy a condo on beach road in pattaya and drown in alcohol/fuck hookers raw until I died of liver cirrhosis or HIV

>>2898604
Yep, i just spent a few months Georgia to Kyrgyzstan . Taxis, very nice vehicles, drivers all men 25 to 50 you could tell they are smart competent people. They will drive you around for sn hour for $5 to $8. Their labor is next to worthless . Taxi drivers in Georgia were complaining about a jeet invasion

I have barely traveled at all, and was sure than my dream destination is Japan (because I’m a dumb weeb), but after 8 years here I’m not so sure anymore.
So I’ll be lurking in this thread, gathering ideas.

>>2899159
touch grass and form your own ideas, pussy

>>2899170
I do have my own ideas, you dum-dum.
Does not mean I should ignore the ideas of others.

>>2899225
>I have barely traveled at all, and was sure
>I do have my own ideas, yo
Surely they're not good ones

>>2899227
Thanks for the bump.

>>2898633
Well yeah, I want a niche job where I feel special and catered to, where I can work at my own pace. You're going to find that sort of thing in the countryside. I hate the idea of being NYC goyslave #2567853 constantly whipped to go faster. Have you seen how fast those cooks have to work in those NYC restaurants? Tickets posted up every 30 seconds, impatient customers bitching when they don't get their burger in a New York minute.

Meanwhile I'm feeling refreshed and optimistic and truly free at age 32, why? Because I've only worked seven months since October 2023. I'm not going to give all of my mind body and soul in the corporate industrial machine just to sit on $50K instead of $20K. Spending wastefully in some exotic place in the vain hope of feeling some enjoyment of life again - but it never comes from within for all the other soulless wornout husks of men who have "made it". They must constantly be extracting happiness from others.

>>2897761
Ehime, Japan. somewhere safe from a tsunami but half an hour from the south coast of the island where the surf beach is.

>>2899247
Ok rabbi

>>2899247
Office jobs are so easy. A lot are hybrid and once you're done work you have energy. Infinitely better than blue collar or labour jobs. I'm "full time" but 2-3 days of the week are WFH so just jiggling the mouse and leaving my works laptop open.

Northern Spain, easily

If Turkiye could sort out the lira and get rid of the Erdogan and his Islamists party then there as well, somewhere on the Aegean would be great

>>2899247
what do you do?

>>2899247
So you are bragging you are a a poor slave, fascinating how lazyoids cope

>>2899315
>Northern Spain, easily
Where do you like in Northern Spain? Also, accommodation seems quite expensive for cities I've never heard of? or is this just a very seasonal place for rich Europeans to go for mild summer weather?

>>2899429
Basque country is really nice, nice and green with good mild weather in the summer. Probably expensive accom because there's not much competition or sites, just good living