Taking a trip this late summer/ fall to Italy . This is my preliminary list of cities. Looking for places i can walk around and see the architecture, try some food, people watch etc not feel like im gonna get stabbed or robbed, nothing exciting no clubbing or degenerate stuff.Any i should add or drop?Rome: Venice: Milan: Florence: Naples: too much of a shithole?Turin:Bologna: Verona: Genoa: Cinque Terre: too expensive? Parma: Perugia: Orvieto:
>>2901018Damn those are a lot of different places. How much time do you have? Two months? Unless you plan on staying in Italy that long just pick a general region (north, centre or south) and stick with it. In two weeks you'll be able to see three or four cities at best. Just two if one of them is Rome or Florence and you want to make it worth your while>Naples: too much of a shithole?If you're a complete pussy who's scared of his own reflection then yeah maybe
>>2901018Let me guess >you got 13,5 days for the entire trip including arrival and departure day >want to fully enjoy the places like a local so you planned at least 2h and under 6h per destination to soak up the culture and vibe>want to eat traditional local food like the chicken marinara, the meatball pasghetti or the famous deep dish pidsa of uhm that funny place.>absolutely no idea about transportation or how long it takes, Rome to Venice should be a 30min taxi rideLooks like your typical Murrican goes to Europe trip, you might want to add 10-30 more places just to make sure you have a great trip.
>>2901018One thing to advise anon having just been to the Cinque Terre. Theres a trainpass to visit all cities for 25 euro but its a ripoff. You can walk between the towns for the most part. Theyre pretty but have little to do if anything. Also yes they are all tiurist traps.Went from Genoa and there were better towns on the way, Comiglia seemed really nice with its fun fish fry event. Genoa itself was cool, had big alpine fest. Port is fun. Walked to airport long journey saw abandoned rail pretty cool. Genoa.On that list Milan was the only one I thought was underwhelming. Bologna has a mortadella sandwich place, imo best sandwich ever. You should ne able to find it pretty easy.
>>2901050>Looks like your typical Murrican goes to Europe trip, you might want to add 10-30 more places just to make sure you have a great trip.Don't forget the cherry on top: the fact that it's always an indefinite date in the future and never actually happens
>>2901043I'm a slow traveller. I've got up to 90 days it will all depend on how comfy it is and hotel prices which at first glance seem kind of high. Ok I will definitely go to Naples.>>2901082Thanks for the info on the Cinque Terre trail maybe I will just hike it and skip the towns
>>2901102>90 days>hotelskwab
>>2901018genoa is full of niggers
>>2901129>>2901129You've been fact checked. Genoa is virtually all Italians while at the same time has always been diverse multikulti with Africans terrorizing locals and tourists as of 2009 and certainly hasn't gotten better (more Africans) in the last 20 years>No, the claim that Genoa is "full of Africans" is a misleading generalization often propagated by fake news outlets and internet rumors. While Genoa has a diverse population with 45,812 residents of foreign origin (approximately 7.5% of the total population as of 2009), the largest foreign community is Ecuadorian, not African. >Specific neighborhoods, such as areas near Via Pre’, have been noted by some visitors for having higher concentrations of African residents and tourists, leading to isolated complaints about safety or discomfort. However, these areas are also populated by Italians and tourists during the day, and characterizing the entire city of 609,822 inhabitants as "full of Africans" is factually incorrect and ignores the broader multicultural makeup of the city, which includes significant communities from South America, Asia, and other parts of Africa.
Go to Pompeii and the Vesuvius national park. Personally I'd avoid Naples.
>>2901102Apologies if that was confusing. I mean, the towns that form the Cinque Terre are strung along on a path, such that you hike between them. Its pretty much impossible to skip the towns on the same trail. Pic related should give an idea. This was from one of the towns looking at another (Corniglia looking at Manarola). For more insight, the Cinque Terre are 5no towns along the coast. Vernazza is the most scenic in my opinion and Monterosso is the 'largest' (in quotations). Though called towns, they're more like villages. When I was going to the Cinque Terre, I stayed in a hostel in La Spezia which is has a naval museum and is something of a regional hub.
>>2901203Genoa's certainly not full of blacks, but they're a noticeable presence around the tourist parts milling around and selling fake Rolexes and whatnot. Genoa felt kind of like how I imagine a South American city would look with its colourful buildings, sea and well... there were quite a few South Americans so I suppose your point proves it.
>>2901018>>2901102Also, some words of advice and things:1. If you are solo travelling, I would recommend hostels. Even if you don't intend on partying, you get more families in Italian hostels and there's more of a laid-back atmosphere where people enjoy each-others cooking and company. I'd argue that Italy is rather unique in having this experience when hostelling and its a big part of the charm. Still, hotels will get the job done as ever, you may as well bring a +1 given that you'll often be booking double-rooms if you go down that route whether you like it or not. Otherwise you could use them as a break from hostels when you need the privacy.2. When it comes to how long to stay in a place it really comes down to you and I think you should largely ignore comments on such, so long as you aren't rushing you'll be fine. Its worth scanning Italy to see if there are any places with a niche, Lucca for instance has the comic con and Sanremo has the music festival. There are Ferrari museums in and around Modena and Monza circuit near Milan. Theme parks like Gardaland and Mirabilandia etc. I don't have to mention food. Worth keeping track of events too though Italy seems to be weirdly neglected on many band's European tours. Its usually just Milan and Rome if that...3. Toogoodtogo is available in Italy and the portions are often large. Shops in Italy are pretty good too, see vid: https://files.catbox.moe/z2356m.mp44. Architecture in Italy is great and varied, it has something for everyone. Whilst it counts more for interior design arguably, I think Ravenna should be on your list for its Byzantine churches, it used to be a focal point of the East Roman Empire and a very important religious centre, but this is more a destination for /his/ than anything.Generic cities: Milan not so nice imo, everyone I know who goes there also doesn't like it. Turin make sure to book Mole. Venice great, don't be scared by mass tourism its not as bad as people say.
>>2901018If you have 90 days, then don't miss southern italy. I've been to Bari and its surroundings (Polignano in Mare, Monopoli, Trani), it's a very beautiful and laid back area. It's touristy but not overcrowded with foreigners, it felt like tons of italians went there on holiday. The beaches are really beautiful, and they're very family-friendly, as opposed to more party-oriented beaches like Ibiza for example.Another place I would urge you to visit is Sicily. I visited just the western part of the island (Palermo, Agrigento, etc) and again, super recommended. Palermo felt dirtier than Naples if that's possible, but not violent or dangerous at all. Agrigento has a beautiful park full of ancient Greek temples, you can go there and watch the sunset surrounded by these millenary constructions. Link related is just for the pics:>https://www.viator.com/tours/Sicily/Sunset-tour-of-the-Valley-of-the-Temples-Agrigento/d205-173465P2One overall recommendation: use trains to move around. Trains in italy are very reliable and comfortable. There's a great network covering the whole country, you can do Milan to Palermo by train in 20 hours (not that you should), and you can go to any small little town you want by train as well.
>>2901018>not feel like im gonna get stabbed or robbed,basically once you see the most famous tourist plaza, you go to other more chill neighborhoods and everywhere is more relaxing than usa
I recommend Matera in Basalicata and Lecce in Apulia, though they may be out of the way.
